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| 00:08 | drojf | shouldn't bug 8701 be set to failed QA or something? seems like a change is expected, not a sign off |
| 00:08 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8701 normal, P5 - low, ---, sandbergja, Needs Signoff , Help for OpacHiddenItems pref should not point to text in install directory |
| 00:09 | rangi | in discussion maybe |
| 00:09 | id like to encourage her, first patch and all | |
| 00:10 | drojf | or that. don't want to discourage her, but needs sign off is slightly confusing :) |
| 00:10 | rangi | yep |
| 00:10 | in discussion is probably good | |
| 00:11 | * rangi | goes for lunch |
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| 00:34 | * drojf | goes to bed |
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| 03:30 | Oak | kia ora #koha |
| 03:32 | wajasu | hiya |
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| 04:03 | cjh | mtj: thanks for the signoff |
| 04:04 | jcamins_away: if you have some time I would like to hear your opinions re: my notes on http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]g.cgi?id=3652#c36 | |
| 04:04 | huginn | 04Bug 3652: critical, P1 - high, ---, chrish, Signed Off , XSS vulnerabilities |
| 04:09 | mtj | heya chris |
| 04:09 | well, goods news is that the jscript popup hack doesnt seem to work for me, on chrome or ff.16 | |
| 04:10 | oops, it just did on ff.16 :/ | |
| 04:10 | cjh | ff 16 it should work before the patch, not after. |
| 04:10 | chrome it never worked for me, chrome is too smart.. | |
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| 04:12 | mtj | yep, thats right for me, yr patch fixes it on ff.16 |
| 04:12 | cjh | awesome :) |
| 04:13 | mtj | d00d, thats a well crazy hack :p |
| 04:13 | cjh | heh, sadly quotes were always escaped so I couldnt say anything interesting. |
| 04:13 | mtj | choccy fish in the mail |
| 04:15 | cjh | heh, maybe we should start a Koha choccy-fish-fund. |
| 04:16 | heading home, have a good weekend/weekday everyone :) | |
| 04:16 | mtj | cool, have a good one |
| 04:24 | wajasu | cjh: funny, i was just testing 3652 on 3.6.x branch. |
| 04:25 | cait | have a nice weekend nz :) |
| 04:31 | mtj | thanx cait |
| 04:32 | ive been sick for 2 weeks, looking forward to a beer this weekend | |
| 04:32 | wajasu | rangi: 3652 is now signed off for 3.8.x (shall i continue against 3.6.x and master)? |
| 04:32 | cait | mtj: glad you feel better |
| 04:36 | mtj | wajasu, hmm i actually tested those against master |
| 04:36 | so, i might flick the version to reflect that | |
| 04:39 | wajasu | but did cjh test against master is the question |
| 04:39 | for his 1st two patches | |
| 04:41 | i had to reconcile his 1st patch for 3.6.x | |
| 04:42 | mtj | he prolly tested against 3.8 |
| 04:44 | a quick eyeball (and some testing) says the difference is zero between versions | |
| 04:44 | wajasu | between 3.8.x and master, right? |
| 04:45 | mtj | yep |
| 04:46 | wajasu | ok, i will just attach my reconciled patch for 3.6.x for the 1st patch, and apply/test against master, and comment at the bottom. |
| 04:47 | mtj | hopefully we'll get the the XSS stuff sorted into 3.8/3.6 in the next few days |
| 05:14 | wajasu | i'm not going to comment. it will only confuse folks. so i am bailing out on this for now. |
| 06:26 | rangi | wajasu: yes he did |
| 06:26 | everyone should always test and develop against master | |
| 06:27 | then it gets cherry picked back | |
| 06:27 | the rmmaints will ask for version specific patches if they are needed | |
| 06:27 | but signoffs should be against master | |
| 06:32 | alex_a | bonjour tout le monde |
| 06:35 | magnuse | bonjour alex_a |
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| 06:44 | reiveune | hello |
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| 06:59 | Maxie2012 | Hi! I am very interested to install Koha (have already downloaded Ver 3.8.05), but am new to Koha and the Linux environment. I am also looking to host it on a Cloud platform - currently sourcing for a suitable vendor/site, and already have a trial site to install Koha. However, I have no idea how to start! Can anybody help me please?? |
| 07:00 | I wasn't even able to Unpack the Koha package that I downloaded... | |
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| 07:10 | gaetan_B | hello |
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| 07:21 | francharb | hello #koha |
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| 07:48 | WaylonR | Hey all. just thought.... MultiBranch "assigning multiple branches to a patron" is a seperate concept to MultiBranchSelect "Allow searching of multiple branches from advanced search (without categories)" yes? |
| 07:48 | Viktor joined #koha | |
| 07:49 | Viktor | Hi! |
| 07:49 | WaylonR | hmm .maybe not seperate concept, but requiring of a different Syspref? |
| 07:50 | its possible that some libraries who don't want to use the multibranchuser feature, want the multibranchselect feature? | |
| 07:50 | Viktor | Just popping in with a question: do we have two-step verification during login to staff that I don't know of? |
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| 07:51 | WaylonR | as far as i know Viktor .. just the user/pass/ip restriction system. |
| 07:51 | or LDAP. | |
| 07:51 | Viktor | Thansk WaylonR Thinking about setting up a RFC for that but would be akward if I just missed whats there :) |
| 07:52 | I think it would be a good idea to make users login in from new IPs answer a security question, reply to an e-mail or something like that. | |
| 07:53 | Especially if they try to log in from a new geographical area. Users often select not so good passwords :) | |
| 07:55 | magnuse | Viktor: it's possible to restrict access to the staff client to a set of IP adresses (but i have not checked it actually works) |
| 07:56 | other than that it's just plain username/password | |
| 07:56 | rangi | you can restrict at the firewall too, or in apache |
| 07:56 | magnuse | Viktor: you are thinking of staff users, right? |
| 07:56 | Viktor | Thanks rangi & magnuse |
| 07:56 | magnuse | or patrons in the opac too? |
| 07:58 | Viktor | I think it would be good for patrons too actually. It shows that the library takes their privacy seriously. But for opac it should be optional for the users - they move around much more than staff. |
| 07:58 | I know people love the idea of being able to log in from home, but many have dynamic IPs. | |
| 07:59 | So: added security for staff users who arrive frow weird new IPs is my top priority. | |
| 07:59 | While still keeping it accessible from the public net. | |
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| 08:00 | magnuse | cool |
| 08:00 | some kind of temporary ip restriction, then | |
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| 08:01 | magnuse | if the current ip restriction in koha works for the staff client, it shouldn't be too hard to add new ones and require email verification before they are usable, i think |
| 08:02 | Viktor | Nice - magnuse |
| 08:03 | So we just add the possibility of lifting the restriction by doing something like email verification, security question and so on(?) I like that. | |
| 08:03 | magnuse | i think of it as temporarily adding a new ip to the allowed IPs, but yeah something like that |
| 08:04 | Viktor | If we do get additional funding that might be something we want to have created in 2013. I´ll take notes in Pivotal and add it to the list. |
| 08:04 | magnuse | yay |
| 08:05 | Viktor | Thanks guys! I´ll have to up the blood sugar level now - time for coffebreak :) |
| 08:07 | kf | oh |
| 08:07 | now I missed Viktor | |
| 08:07 | magnuse | he didn't log off, though |
| 08:08 | Viktor: have a look at http://manual.koha-community.o[…]html#AutoLocation for current ip restriction functionality | |
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| 08:25 | drojf | good day #koha |
| 08:25 | magnuse | kia ora drojf! |
| 08:27 | drojf | hei magnuse :) |
| 08:28 | magnuse | drojf++ for another signoff |
| 08:28 | drojf | did i sleepwalk-signoff again? :) |
| 08:29 | ah yes the alphabet. it's a cool patch! | |
| 08:30 | i'm all for making stuff work for crazy scripts and languages | |
| 08:31 | s/crazy/cool/ | |
| 08:31 | magnuse | crazy = cool :-) |
| 08:31 | WaylonR | crazy == cool ? yes : no |
| 08:35 | drojf | windows 8 is due in a few days. cool. may it bring us lots of new linux users :) |
| 08:36 | magnuse | lol |
| 08:38 | WaylonR | windows8-- |
| 08:38 | windows8? | |
| 08:38 | karma? | |
| 08:38 | solr? | |
| 08:38 | wahanui | solr is fast, really fast, faster than me! And koha wiki has a page about it, found at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ene_Documentation |
| 08:38 | WaylonR | good... |
| 08:39 | windows8 is due in a few days, may it bring us lots of new linux users. :) | |
| 08:39 | windows8? | |
| 08:39 | wahanui | windows8 is due in a few days, may it bring us lots of new linux users. :) |
| 08:39 | WaylonR | wahanui, help |
| 08:39 | karma for windows8? | |
| 08:39 | wahanui | windows8 has karma of -1 |
| 08:39 | WaylonR | guys.... this needs some karma swing here. |
| 08:39 | drojf | i bet that is going to decrease a lot more |
| 08:40 | * WaylonR | idly wonders. |
| 08:40 | WaylonR | karma for WaylonR |
| 08:40 | wahanui | waylonr has neutral karma |
| 08:40 | WaylonR | karma for Waylon |
| 08:40 | wahanui | waylon has karma of 1 |
| 08:40 | WaylonR | ah. |
| 08:40 | karma for PTFS | |
| 08:40 | wahanui | ptfs has karma of -7 |
| 08:40 | WaylonR | karma for liblime |
| 08:40 | wahanui | liblime has karma of -5 |
| 08:40 | WaylonR | hmmm... |
| 08:40 | karma for siridynix | |
| 08:40 | wahanui | siridynix has neutral karma |
| 08:41 | WaylonR | ... im spelling it wrong/ |
| 08:41 | magnuse | karme for sirsidynix |
| 08:41 | WaylonR | ahh |
| 08:41 | magnuse | karma for sirsidynix |
| 08:41 | wahanui | sirsidynix has neutral karma |
| 08:41 | WaylonR | huh. |
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| 08:42 | magnuse | Viktor: have a look at http://manual.koha-community.o[…]html#AutoLocation for current ip restriction functionality |
| 08:43 | Viktor | Thanks magnuse |
| 08:44 | (Lost the connection while I was away so I can't see if there was other stuff said) | |
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| 08:46 | WaylonR | didn't miss much. only us askign the bot about windows8. |
| 08:46 | windows8? | |
| 08:46 | wahanui | i think windows8 is due in a few days, may it bring us lots of new linux users. :) |
| 08:48 | Viktor | I like that MS have dared to move away from the traditional interface, but I really hope people won't try to use touchscreens on desktop. |
| 08:48 | drojf | is it too much self-praise to nominate koha for the free software award for projects of social benefit? |
| 08:48 | WaylonR | karma for koha? |
| 08:48 | wahanui | koha has karma of -44 |
| 08:48 | WaylonR | karma for koha-community? |
| 08:48 | wahanui | koha-community has neutral karma |
| 08:48 | kf | hm it depends on who does it maybe? I am not sure how that works |
| 08:49 | WaylonR | karma for community-koha? |
| 08:49 | wahanui | community-koha has neutral karma |
| 08:49 | rangi | @karma koha |
| 08:49 | huginn | rangi: Karma for "koha" has been increased 33 times and decreased 3 times for a total karma of 30. |
| 08:49 | WaylonR | ah.. two karma dbs. |
| 08:50 | drojf, think it would be fine, honestly. as long as theres no rule about it. | |
| 08:50 | drojf | https://www.fsf.org/news/the-f[…]e-software-awards |
| 08:52 | mtj | WaylonR, only huginn runs the karma plugin, wahanui is just chatting to you... |
| 08:52 | magnuse | logs? |
| 08:52 | wahanui | i heard logs was http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/ |
| 08:52 | magnuse | that was for Viktor :-) |
| 08:53 | drojf | that are some big names that got that award before :) maybe we are not as important to mankind as tor or cc |
| 08:53 | magnuse | and Viktor, getting a good irc client like xchat or something will save you some frustrations in the long run :-) |
| 08:54 | drojf: libraries are important, and we help libraries :-) | |
| 08:55 | Viktor | magnuse - Yep :) But I'm currently on my work computer that is lock-down galore. |
| 08:55 | magnuse | woohoo! |
| 08:55 | drojf | magnuse: that was my thought. koha enables people and institutions to use professional library automation that would not have had that opportunity without (this piece of) free software |
| 08:56 | mtj | oops, wahanui is running a karma plugin too?! |
| 08:56 | WaylonR | drojf, id suggest finding a library that would nom us. |
| 08:56 | magnuse | drojf: yup! and we can find lots and lots of places where koha is bringing state of the art library tech to places that could not afford it with proprietary systems |
| 08:57 | karma for koha? | |
| 08:57 | wahanui | koha has karma of -44 |
| 08:57 | magnuse | karma for koha? |
| 08:57 | wahanui | koha has karma of -44 |
| 08:57 | magnuse | at least it's consistent |
| 09:00 | kf | WaylonR: well, drojf is a library :P |
| 09:01 | WaylonR | well. there you go then. |
| 09:01 | drojf | oh, that's right lol |
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| 09:01 | WaylonR | drojf, nom community-koha |
| 09:06 | Maxie2012 | Hi! Was wondering if anybody can help me? I'm new to Koha and Linux but would like to install Koha onto a cloud based server and really need help on how to start...I posted this earlier but my connection dropped, so I'm not sure if anyone sent me a response....sorry:( |
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| 09:09 | Maxie2012 | I have downloaded the Ver 3.8.05 package, but have not been able to unpack it as I'm not on Linux, but on a Windows 7 environment. I am assuming I need to be in Linux to unpack? |
| 09:10 | drojf | Maxie2012: is windows running on your server? |
| 09:11 | Maxie2012 | Yes....well, technically speaking I downloaded it to my desktop PC... |
| 09:11 | I am in the process of engaging someone to host a server for me to install Koha on | |
| 09:12 | drojf | Maxie2012: so you do not have a server yet? |
| 09:12 | kf | Maxie2012: you can only install koha under windows. You could unapck it with the right tool, but it would not work |
| 09:13 | so if you only wanted to take a look at the files and install text files that is ok in windows, but for installing you need a linux environment of some kind | |
| 09:13 | gerundio | drojf, hi, back today and working to submit the patch |
| 09:13 | drojf | Maxie2012: you would want your server to run debian gnu/linux. debian squeeze to be precise. you would log into your server via ssh and do the installation there. you cannot use koha on windows at all |
| 09:13 | gerundio: cool! thanks for your work | |
| 09:14 | magnuse | kf did probably not mean to say "you can only install koha under windows"... |
| 09:14 | gerundio | all I have to do is follow those instructions in the page you sent me yesterday, right? http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_bz_configuration |
| 09:14 | kf | oups |
| 09:14 | yep typo | |
| 09:14 | sorry | |
| 09:14 | only under linux!! | |
| 09:14 | magnuse | :-) |
| 09:15 | gerundio | I'm under linux :) |
| 09:15 | drojf | gerundio: yes |
| 09:17 | gerundio | but 1st off I need to checkout a git clone, right? |
| 09:18 | Maxie2012 | No, I do not have the server yet. I have been trying to go through whatever documentation available on the web, including koha-community.org, so as to understand the hardware/software requirements. |
| 09:18 | drojf | gerundio: oh i thought you would have been working with git already. one sec |
| 09:18 | gerundio | not really, I was trying out with a test installation :) |
| 09:18 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]oha_Dev_Env_Setup | |
| 09:19 | this is it, right? | |
| 09:19 | drojf | gerundio: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Control_Using_Git |
| 09:19 | mtj | Maxie2012, i use linode.com for Koha hosting , they are great |
| 09:19 | Maxie2012 | I am currently trying to engage someone to host a Linux server for me and I have even specified that I want Debian. |
| 09:20 | cjh | linode are fantastic. |
| 09:20 | drojf | Maxie2012: that is good. then you would either have to wait until you have it, or try koha in a virtual machine running debian on top of your windows system before you have the server ready |
| 09:21 | Maxie2012 | Where is linode.com based? Would they have an issue supporting me way out here in Singapore? |
| 09:22 | cjh | Maxie2012: they have various sites http://www.linode.com/speedtest/ |
| 09:23 | they will give you a linux server you can ssh to (connect remotely), from this you can install Koha yourself. | |
| 09:25 | mtj | i have one in tokyo, works perfect |
| 09:26 | Maxie2012 | Ok...on top of Debian, I read that I need to download all the other software as well i.e. Apache, MySql, Perl etc? |
| 09:27 | cjh | Maxie2012: yes, once you have a server you may have to install those. The debian package manager (apt-get) makes this easy though. |
| 09:27 | mtj | if you use the debian package for Koha, it does all that for you |
| 09:27 | # apt-get install koha-common | |
| 09:27 | finished.... | |
| 09:28 | :) | |
| 09:28 | drojf | packages? |
| 09:28 | wahanui | i guess packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian |
| 09:28 | cjh | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]on_Debian_Squeeze |
| 09:30 | magnuse | hm, i'm trying to activate the ccsr theme on master, based on instructions here: http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]g.cgi?id=8597#c60 but i get a lot of 404s for css and js files - anyone got any tips? head.bibkat.no |
| 09:30 | huginn | 04Bug 8597: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, fcapovilla, Pushed to Master , New theme for the OPAC with a mobile view |
| 09:30 | mtj | hey, this looks snazzy -> http://search.cpan.org/~book/G[…]tory/Tutorial.pod |
| 09:31 | cjh | oh wow. |
| 09:31 | mtj | a perl module to manip a git repo |
| 09:32 | Maxie2012 | sorry...I downloaded the koha-3.08.05.tar from the http://koha-community.org/support/...is that the same as the debian package you are referring to? |
| 09:32 | drojf | magnuse: from the comments one patch was missing at some point |
| 09:33 | mtj | hmm, Maxie2012 what are you trying to do here? |
| 09:33 | magnuse | drojf: i'm on uptodate master |
| 09:33 | mtj | Maxie2012, are you attempting to install Koha on your windows pc? coz that wont work |
| 09:34 | magnuse | Maxie2012: no, tar files and packages are different things |
| 09:34 | Maxie2012: see the wiki pages that were pointed out earliuer for info about the debian packages | |
| 09:35 | Maxie2012 | No...as I said, I'm trying to engage someone to host a Linux server for me to install Koha on |
| 09:35 | drojf | magnuse: weird, it says it was pushed. but the error sounds exactly like the one for the missing patch |
| 09:36 | cjh | Maxie2012: the .tar file and the debian package both contain the same version of koha, the package is just better suited to installing on debian. If you want to look through it then the .tar is fine. |
| 09:36 | Maxie2012: once you have a host (running debian) you can follow http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]on_Debian_Squeeze | |
| 09:39 | Maxie2012 | ok, great! Will definitely take your advice on the package! |
| 09:40 | One LAST question....does Linode.com charge a lot for their hosting services? | |
| 09:41 | cjh | Maxie2012: http://www.linode.com/ scroll down to "Plans and availability" there start at 20USD/month. |
| 09:41 | magnuse | Maxie2012: the prices are on their front page: https://www.linode.com/ :-) |
| 09:42 | cjh | s/there/they/* |
| 09:42 | magnuse | for just testing koha the cheapest one should be fine |
| 09:42 | drojf | are you all using linode? |
| 09:43 | * magnuse | is |
| 09:43 | * cjh | is, but not for Koha |
| 09:44 | magnuse | ah problem probably solved, i was trying to view the opac as nb-NO, guess i have to install translations |
| 09:44 | cjh | magnuse: awesome! |
| 09:44 | drojf | ah. i tried the theme once, but not with translation |
| 09:46 | magnuse: i remember reading your first post a while ago about the young nerdy librarian wanting to offer koha on amazon. so you ditched that for linode eventually? | |
| 09:47 | magnuse | drojf: yup |
| 09:47 | drojf | cool" |
| 09:47 | cool! | |
| 09:47 | every step away from amazon is a step in the right direction :P | |
| 09:47 | cjh | heh |
| 09:48 | magnuse | drojf: aws is probably awesome when you need more servers, failovers etc. but the way i parsed it, it's not ideal when all you want is a single server |
| 09:49 | cjh | I dont like how they do their pricing either. |
| 09:49 | drojf | magnuse: to be honest did not even understand half the stuff i read about aws. "what if i just want a server" was exactly what i was thinking when i had a look at what they offer |
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| 09:50 | cjh | for a small website aws just feels like it would be one web crawler away from backruptcy |
| 09:50 | drojf | lol |
| 09:51 | magnuse | drojf: well, you can do it, but you have to think about a lot of bits and pieces, ebs for persitent disk space, s3 for backup etc etc - i have not follewed that closely fr a couple years now |
| 09:51 | drojf | also, *cough*evil corporation*cough* |
| 09:52 | i would prefer to invest my thinking into other stuff | |
| 09:53 | Maxie2012 | Wow! Thanks all for the info....really helped a lot :) |
| 09:53 | drojf | \o/ |
| 09:53 | too late | |
| 09:53 | but still | |
| 09:53 | cjh | nawww |
| 09:53 | o/*\o | |
| 09:53 | drojf | :) |
| 09:53 | magnuse | hehe |
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| 10:01 | magnuse | ah, not quite that simple - had to run "perl translate create nb-NO; perl translate install nb-NO" as decribed here: http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]ug.cgi?id=8633#c6 but now the new theme works for nb-NO too. and there is more translation work to do, it seems... |
| 10:01 | huginn | 04Bug 8633: normal, P5 - low, ---, frederic, Pushed to Master , Translate script hardcoded to prog template |
| 10:03 | modabber | hi |
| 10:03 | wahanui | salut, modabber |
| 10:04 | modabber | i am facing problem in setting permission for kohauser in debian |
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| 10:14 | vkm | please help i have created folder and given link from opacheader but it does not work the link is http://172.23.14.200/opac-tmpl[…]s/book_indent.doc |
| 10:15 | 172.23.14.200/opac-tmpl/prog/www/docs/book_indent.doc | |
| 10:16 | www folder created in prog folder where images, en folders are there | |
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| 10:20 | mtj | vkm, what are you trying to do? |
| 10:20 | and, that url does not work for me | |
| 10:20 | vkm | i have created one link from opac to my save file which can be open by the users |
| 10:24 | the file is saved in the koha server itself | |
| 10:24 | it is on LAN | |
| 10:26 | mtj | does this link work for you ? |
| 10:26 | in a browser? | |
| 10:26 | hav you checked the permissions of the dir/file, etc? | |
| 10:27 | vkm | where |
| 10:27 | mtj | have you looked in the apache log to see why its failing? |
| 10:28 | modabber | it is on lan |
| 10:28 | vkm | image which i have saved in image folder is working fine |
| 10:28 | mtj | hmm, i dont know then… sorry :/ |
| 10:30 | vkm | but when given link to a created new folder it does not works |
| 10:31 | i think if simply saved the file without creating folder it may work | |
| 10:32 | saved in default folders | |
| 10:35 | drojf | @wunder berlin, germany |
| 10:35 | huginn | drojf: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is 16.0°C (12:13 PM CEST on October 19, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Falling). |
| 10:36 | slef | livecd? |
| 10:36 | wahanui | livecd is here http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_LiveCD |
| 10:37 | slef | wahanui: thanks |
| 10:37 | wahanui | my pleasure slef |
| 10:37 | modabber | sorry |
| 10:38 | i am uing koha, installed in debian | |
| 10:38 | slef | modabber: don't be sorry. I was talking to wahanui |
| 10:38 | modabber | i am manually giving indext command from the root user |
| 10:38 | only then it works | |
| 10:39 | but cron job is not working as kohasau which is the kohauser | |
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| 10:45 | magnuse | @arewethereyet |
| 10:45 | huginn | magnuse: YES! |
| 10:45 | magnuse | guess it depends on your definition of "there", huginn |
| 10:45 | the dashboard says "2012-10-22 - Release date for 3.10.0" - that should be 2012-11-22, right? | |
| 10:46 | mtj | yep :) |
| 10:46 | magnuse | ta |
| 10:47 | mtj | oops, i think it is 2012-10-22 |
| 10:47 | ie: 3 days time | |
| 10:47 | magnuse | gah, better start translating or something then :-) |
| 10:48 | mtj: you're kidding, right? | |
| 10:49 | mtj | aah, delayed 1 month -> http://koha-community.org/koha[…]-august-2012/#310 |
| 10:49 | so 2012-11-22…. not 2012-10-22 | |
| 10:51 | magnuse | phew |
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| 11:12 | WaylonR | moby++ |
| 11:12 | sorry, completely unrelated.. but omg.. coding to moby... | |
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| 11:46 | gerundio | drojf, I was looking at http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7973 |
| 11:46 | huginn | 04Bug 7973: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, In Discussion , Allow for new type of LDAP authentication |
| 11:46 | gerundio | the reported bug which I've worked to come up with a new patch |
| 11:47 | can I simply just submit a new attachment there for revision? | |
| 11:57 | magnuse | anyone else tried the ccsr theme with translations? |
| 11:57 | kf | magnuse: there was a patch |
| 11:58 | to fix the translation scripts | |
| 11:58 | becasue they won't take them into account right now I think - not sur eif it has been pushed | |
| 11:58 | magnuse: some things will probably not work, some things are in the css I think :( | |
| 11:59 | magnuse | yeah, but i'm getting this nastiness: Could not create file parser context for file "/home/magnus/kohahead/koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/ccsr/nb-NO/xslt/NORMARCslim2OPACResults.xsl": No such file or directory at /home/magnus/kohahead/C4/XSLT.pm line 218 |
| 11:59 | it works for english, but not when i switch to norwegian | |
| 11:59 | i get that error when i try to search | |
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| 12:14 | kf | magnuse: ah, I think you figured it out - missing part in the translation script probably? |
| 12:15 | magnuse | kf: probably, but i don't really have the time to investigate further now |
| 12:16 | jcamins_away | magnuse: are you sure you're on latest master? |
| 12:16 | magnuse | jcamins_away: yup |
| 12:16 | jcamins_away | Hm. |
| 12:16 | The last theming patch, the one that Paul pushed a week after the others, was to deal with that problem. | |
| 12:18 | magnuse | jcamins_away: this one? commit 6a4cbbba6095791926d925cb14bd286dea16c835 Bug 8633 Manage OPAC alternate templates |
| 12:18 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8633 normal, P5 - low, ---, frederic, Pushed to Master , Translate script hardcoded to prog template |
| 12:18 | jcamins_away | No. |
| 12:19 | Something about XSLT fallbacks. | |
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| 12:19 | jcamins_away | ccsr doesn't have XSLTs. |
| 12:19 | (by design) | |
| 12:19 | I'll give it a quick poke. | |
| 12:19 | magnuse | yay |
| 12:20 | this? commit 33113e69c0eb2faccceb917ce19e26225259df8d Bug 8622: Fix theme fallback | |
| 12:20 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8622 major, P3, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Koha themes broken |
| 12:21 | jcamins_away | That's the one. |
| 12:22 | magnuse | it shows up in git log... |
| 12:24 | jcamins_away | I'm installing nb-NO now. |
| 12:24 | magnuse | woohoo! ;-) |
| 12:24 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
| 12:25 | magnuse | kia ora oleonard |
| 12:27 | jcamins_away | I confirm the bug. |
| 12:27 | magnuse | yay, sort of... |
| 12:28 | jcamins_away | Fixed it. |
| 12:29 | Some of the fallback logic was backwards. | |
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| 12:29 | magnuse | jcamins++ |
| 12:30 | tcohen | morning #koha |
| 12:30 | magnuse | jcamins_away: if you do a patch i'll sign off real quick :-) |
| 12:31 | jcamins_away | I'm preparing the patch now. |
| 12:31 | And eating pear bread. | |
| 12:31 | (which is delicious) | |
| 12:31 | magnuse | bread with pear in it, or shaped like a pear? |
| 12:31 | jcamins_away | Bread with pear in it. |
| 12:31 | magnuse | ah |
| 12:37 | jcamins_away | Patch attached. |
| 12:39 | * magnuse | will test |
| 12:40 | drojf | @later tell gerundio yes, i would attach the patch to that bug. make sure to obsolete the other patch (remove the # when attaching your patch) if yours is completely rewritten and not just a followup based on the other |
| 12:40 | huginn | drojf: The operation succeeded. |
| 12:49 | * jcamins_away | heads into the city. |
| 12:58 | magnuse | jcamins_away: signed off - thanks for a quick response! |
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| 13:07 | drojf | is michael stephens some kind of library vip? "librarian, blogger" does not sound too amazing by itself. i'm starting to get annoyed by a lot of anouncements for a "tour" he seems to be doing in germany |
| 13:09 | oleonard | Never heard of him. |
| 13:17 | drojf | seems like nengard knows him |
| 13:17 | nengard | yes I do |
| 13:18 | and yes he is (in my opinion) | |
| 13:18 | drojf | magnuse: that's where i got that information ;) searching there for koha |
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| 13:24 | drojf | lousy unstable internet connection |
| 13:25 | WaylonR | same |
| 13:25 | wasn't just you | |
| 13:25 | drojf | lousy global internet connection |
| 13:36 | gerundio | drojf, did you read my question before? almost 2 hours ago... |
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| 13:36 | drojf | gerundio: yes, you should have received a message now :) |
| 13:37 | gerundio | so how about it, could I just submit a new attachment for that bug? |
| 13:38 | drojf | gerundio: yes, i would attach the patch to that bug. make sure to obsolete the other patch (remove the # when attaching your patch) if yours is completely rewritten and not just a followup based on the other |
| 13:38 | (you should have gotten the same message as a pm from huginn by now) | |
| 13:38 | gerundio | its a complete rewrite :) |
| 13:38 | I did | |
| 13:38 | thanks | |
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| 13:38 | drojf | then check for the "Obsolte patch xxx" line when attaching the patch |
| 13:38 | obsolete even | |
| 13:39 | and uncomment it | |
| 13:39 | gerundio | my IRC connection drops when I'm away from the PC for 30+ minutes |
| 13:39 | drojf | are you in mibbit? |
| 13:39 | gerundio | so I didn't receive it the 1st time |
| 13:39 | drojf | i think the webchat kicks you after some time |
| 13:39 | gerundio | not really, Xchat, a regular IRC client for Windows |
| 13:40 | drojf | oh. then that's weird |
| 13:40 | gerundio | just my energy saving settings I guess :D |
| 13:40 | drojf | ah :) |
| 13:40 | gerundio | the PC goes to sleep when I'm afk |
| 13:41 | user220 | the ping timeout irks me. I've prettly clearly nailed it down to my computer being unable to ping the oftc server after a certain period of time |
| 13:42 | I suspect it's a power setting (vs screensaver), but I can't find any setting for it. | |
| 13:42 | It happens with different clients, both xchat and konversation | |
| 13:43 | gerundio | btw, the submited file should be a regular diff? |
| 13:44 | oleonard | Patches attached to bugs should be generated by git |
| 13:45 | drojf | gerundio: if you have set up git and git bz correctly it does all the magic for you when you 'git bz attach -e <bugnumber> HEAD'. i just attaches a diff for your changes |
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| 13:45 | drojf | also what oleonard says, if you attach a patch manually we will have problems testing it |
| 13:46 | oleonard | Well, attaching the patch manually to the bug is fine as long as it is in the right format |
| 13:46 | Meaning you don't have to use git-bz if you don't want to, it just makes it easier | |
| 13:47 | drojf | ok, my only encounters with manually attached patches were those with problems :) |
| 13:47 | oleonard | I'm assuming your problems were with the patches themselves rather than the way they were attached in Bugzilla |
| 13:48 | drojf | nope, i'm talking about comments on the bugtracker asking developers to resubmit patches in the correct format |
| 13:49 | i would not know about hundreds of manually attached patches that worked well of course :) | |
| 13:49 | oleonard | No one says "Please use git-bz to attach your patch rather than manually uploading a patch which you generated via git format-patch" |
| 13:49 | ...because how did we do it before git-bz? :) | |
| 13:50 | drojf | we carved it in stone? :) |
| 13:52 | back in the days we even cave painted patches | |
| 13:54 | says drojf, having his first patch pushed somewhen around july 2012 :D | |
| 13:58 | gerundio | drojf, tried using git bz but I guess I don't have it correctly set |
| 13:58 | drojf | what's happening? |
| 13:58 | (or not happening?) | |
| 13:59 | gerundio | I'll just submit the patch file which I got with git diff and add the necessary comments |
| 14:00 | drojf | i think you should do git format-patch as oleonard suggested |
| 14:00 | pastebot | "gerundio" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "this is what I got when I ran git gz" (21 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/241 |
| 14:01 | drojf | that may be just the error when you need too long to save your file. wait |
| 14:01 | yes | |
| 14:01 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]attach_-e_timeout | |
| 14:01 | you have to save the file faster, that's all | |
| 14:04 | gerundio | lolol, ok I'll try |
| 14:04 | drojf | gerundio: it's a very common error, you only have like 5 seconds |
| 14:05 | you can just try the git attach part again | |
| 14:05 | oleonard | It's very high-pressure hacking, like a scene from Swordfish |
| 14:05 | gerundio | I just re-submitted |
| 14:05 | it worked | |
| 14:06 | I'll just add a more complete comment in bug tracker directly | |
| 14:06 | drojf | you should also switch the status to "needs signoff2 when you do that |
| 14:06 | without the 2 | |
| 14:06 | gerundio | hmmm |
| 14:06 | it didn't work out quite as expected | |
| 14:07 | the file submited is not even the correct one :( | |
| 14:07 | oleonard | Are you in the wrong branch gerundio? |
| 14:07 | drojf | did you commit your changes in git? |
| 14:08 | oleonard | nengard++ # for documentation patches |
| 14:08 | gerundio | I just used "git clone git://git.koha-community.org/koha.git" |
| 14:08 | nengard | :) thanks oleonard |
| 14:08 | still not done with the 3.10 manual, but getting as much of it in to the help files as I can | |
| 14:08 | gerundio | is it possible to remove that patch? |
| 14:08 | it has nothing to do with the changes I've made | |
| 14:09 | drojf | yes, you can obsolete the patch manually |
| 14:09 | click on "details" for your attachment | |
| 14:10 | and on "edit details" | |
| 14:10 | there is a "obsolete" checkbox | |
| 14:10 | s/a/an/ | |
| 14:10 | gerundio | done :D |
| 14:11 | drojf | no worries, git is a little confusing in the beginning. you will get used to it :) |
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| 14:11 | drojf | so you just cloned? |
| 14:12 | you should open a new branch for your bug. i use the bug number for that. something like "git checkout -b bug_7379 origin/master" | |
| 14:13 | then you get a branch to play with. do your changes there. when you are done, commit your changed files wit "git commit -a" for all or "git commit <filename>" for each file | |
| 14:15 | gerundio | drojf, I'm still a SVN guy |
| 14:15 | drojf | gerundio: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_Git#Do_some_work might help. it also describes how your commit message is supposed to look |
| 14:17 | gerundio | ok |
| 14:17 | 2nd try then :) | |
| 14:19 | drojf | good luck :) |
| 14:20 | oleonard | Oh no, hide your children! |
| 14:26 | drojf | nengard: i know i'm annoying, but is there a reason why the bywater twitter links all hop through a multitude of urls before they reach bywatersolutions.com? |
| 14:26 | i would click your links with a lot more passion if i would not have to say "hello google" several times per click ;) | |
| 14:27 | nengard | Hmmm ? they shouldn't do that anymore |
| 14:27 | I thought I turned off the feedburner redirecting | |
| 14:27 | it's because of the services we're using to post to twitter automatically | |
| 14:27 | I'll need to look in to it later though cause today is help file day :) | |
| 14:27 | drojf | thanks :) |
| 14:33 | kf | hm |
| 14:33 | best installation manual for settng up the cronjobs? | |
| 14:33 | zebra? | |
| 14:33 | wahanui | zebra is, like, a fielded free text indexing and retrieval engine with a Z39.50 front-end. You can use any compatible, commercial, or freeware Z39.50 client to access data stored in Zebra. or the search engine koha uses |
| 14:34 | kf | :) |
| 14:35 | I should phrase a proper question I guess :) where are currently sending people installing koha that have to set up the cronjob for reindexing? | |
| 14:35 | * kf | checks the wiki |
| 14:35 | drojf | to install the packages so they do it for them? :P |
| 14:35 | kf | ah |
| 14:35 | I am looking for this centos installation... | |
| 14:36 | drojf | centosß you know strange people :D |
| 14:36 | kf | lol |
| 14:36 | yeah | |
| 14:36 | drojf | s/ß/?/ |
| 14:36 | kf | this seems not up to date: |
| 14:36 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ion_Documentation | |
| 14:39 | hm | |
| 14:39 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]-_git#Setup_Zebra | |
| 14:40 | drojf | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]#Set_up_cron_jobs |
| 14:45 | kf | not very helpful :) |
| 14:45 | or different | |
| 14:48 | i will sent the mail to you in cc | |
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| 14:58 | rambutan | cuba. Interesting |
| 15:01 | oleonard | rambutan: ? |
| 15:04 | reiveune | bye |
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| 15:13 | * wizzyrea | waves |
| 15:14 | rambutan | oleonard: post to koha-dev |
| 15:15 | oleonard | Hi wizzyrea |
| 15:15 | drojf | hey wizzyrea |
| 15:15 | wahanui | rumour has it wizzyrea is a Cylon, and they all have plans |
| 15:15 | drojf | lol |
| 15:16 | gerundio | drojf, just followed all the instructions you gave me before |
| 15:17 | pastebot | "gerundio" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Bug 7379 attachment" (7 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/243 |
| 15:17 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7379 normal, P3, ---, adrien.saurat, Pushed to Master , copynumber is displayed 'as is' when linked to autorised values |
| 15:17 | drojf | gerundio: cool, did something explode? |
| 15:17 | gerundio | not really, everything seems to go smooth this time |
| 15:17 | check that paste | |
| 15:18 | it's the output of the git bz attach command | |
| 15:18 | drojf | err, wrong bug number :) |
| 15:18 | gerundio | but still, the attachment didn't show up in the bugtracker :D |
| 15:18 | drojf | it did |
| 15:18 | at some other bug | |
| 15:18 | gerundio | arghhhhhhh |
| 15:18 | kf | oh |
| 15:18 | I just wrote a comment | |
| 15:19 | drojf | heh. happens |
| 15:19 | * kf | hands gerundio a chocolate chip cookie |
| 15:19 | kf | we have all been there already |
| 15:19 | (variious times...) | |
| 15:19 | wizzyrea | oh yes, so many times. |
| 15:20 | gerundio | fixed |
| 15:20 | jcamins | wizzyrea: have you packed your supply of the horrifying dairy substitute that is our national "cheese"? |
| 15:20 | wizzyrea | i'm realizing there are lots of things "american" that I don't eat. |
| 15:20 | so, no. | |
| 15:20 | gerundio | kf, I bet you did... :) |
| 15:20 | kf | gerundio: you can mark it obsolete - so noone will stumble upon it :) |
| 15:21 | gerundio | just did that on the other bug |
| 15:21 | jcamins | wizzyrea: but horrifying dairy substitute is excellent! |
| 15:21 | gerundio | and added a comment |
| 15:21 | rambutan | something wrong with velveta? |
| 15:21 | kf | cool |
| 15:21 | wizzyrea | um... |
| 15:21 | it's not cheese? | |
| 15:21 | jcamins | It's... just like cheese, except without any of its advantages and with all its disadvantages. |
| 15:21 | oleonard | wizzyrea: conversely, it's remarkably difficult to think of an American food one would want to bring as a gift to another country |
| 15:21 | gerundio | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7379 ... is that ok kf? |
| 15:21 | huginn | 04Bug 7379: normal, P3, ---, adrien.saurat, Pushed to Master , copynumber is displayed 'as is' when linked to autorised values |
| 15:22 | drojf | looks fine to me |
| 15:22 | wizzyrea | oleonard: yes! |
| 15:22 | gerundio | ok, so now the patch looks fine and I hope it gets approved |
| 15:22 | wizzyrea | oleonard: only beer, and they are a bit titchy about that kind of stuff (especially in kansas with our completely bizarre liquor laws( |
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| 15:23 | jcamins | oleonard: I generally go with fudge. |
| 15:23 | oleonard | jcamins: especially since you make it yourself |
| 15:23 | jcamins | wizzyrea: Kansas has bizarre liquor laws? |
| 15:23 | rambutan | sure it is. if it isn't, blame the Swiss. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Velveeta |
| 15:23 | wizzyrea | i'm not sure you could get that through customs |
| 15:23 | jcamins | oleonard: well, yeah. Sometimes I make brownies, though. |
| 15:23 | kf | gerundio: looks good |
| 15:24 | drojf | gerundio: have you attached it to the correct bug number? |
| 15:24 | * wizzyrea | doesn't consider it cheese. It has more than 5 ingredients. :P |
| 15:24 | drojf | ah its UTC. i was confused about the time |
| 15:24 | wizzyrea | cheese should have milk, salt, acid, maybe color. |
| 15:24 | rambutan | highly nutritious. American Medical Association seal of approval. |
| 15:24 | drojf | gerundio: one last thing |
| 15:24 | gerundio | tell me about it |
| 15:24 | kf | wizzyrea: I heard peanut butter was a good gift |
| 15:24 | wizzyrea | :) |
| 15:24 | drojf | gerundio: you did not use the -e option so you have to manually obsolete the old patch |
| 15:24 | wizzyrea | yea, it is |
| 15:25 | gerundio | ok ok |
| 15:25 | kf | :) |
| 15:25 | gerundio | on my way to do it now :) |
| 15:25 | done | |
| 15:26 | drojf | gerundio++ |
| 15:26 | now we have to find somebody with an ldap setup to test that :/ | |
| 15:26 | jcamins | wizzyrea: what about Murcia al Vino? |
| 15:27 | wizzyrea | ok wine is also an acceptable ingredient ;) |
| 15:27 | wahanui | okay, wizzyrea. |
| 15:27 | wizzyrea | wine? |
| 15:27 | wahanui | wine is an acceptable ingredient ;) |
| 15:28 | wizzyrea | LOL! |
| 15:28 | perfect. | |
| 15:28 | oleonard | No matter what the question. |
| 15:28 | wizzyrea | ^^ |
| 15:28 | What do I do if koha won't install? | |
| 15:28 | drojf | gerundio: sorry, another lastest last thing :D set the bug status to "needs signoff" so people find it :) |
| 15:28 | wizzyrea | wine |
| 15:28 | wine? | |
| 15:28 | wahanui | wine is not usually the best for programming :) |
| 15:28 | wizzyrea | LOL! |
| 15:28 | oleonard | What does this module need. wine? |
| 15:28 | wine? | |
| 15:28 | wahanui | it has been said that wine is not usually the best for programming :) |
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| 15:30 | jcamins | wine? |
| 15:30 | wahanui | i think wine is an acceptable ingredient ;) |
| 15:30 | oleonard | whine? |
| 15:31 | gerundio | drojf, done... one even latest last thing :p should we raise the importance level for that a little bit? |
| 15:32 | drojf | gerundio: it's an enhancement, AFAIK they have always that level because bugfixes are more important |
| 15:32 | sekjal | https://xkcd.com/323/ |
| 15:33 | jcamins | "Priority" is not currently used. |
| 15:33 | sekjal: hehe. | |
| 15:37 | sekjal: are you working on a project that requires Balmer Peak levels of efficiency? | |
| 15:37 | *Ballmer | |
| 15:37 | sekjal | jcamins: not right now |
| 15:38 | writing up my annual performance review at the moment | |
| 15:38 | rambutan | https://xkcd.com/323/ <- Win ME was the only operating system I could never get to shutdown properly on my Packard Bell. I always had to turn off the power supply. Strangly never trashed the filesystem, however. |
| 15:39 | jcamins | sekjal: are you arguing that they should be providing you with an artisan beer stipend? :) |
| 15:39 | oleonard | any project worth doing is worth doing at peak efficiency |
| 15:40 | Confound this decade, there's liquor cabinet in my office! | |
| 15:40 | sekjal | jcamins: I knew there was something else I should have put on that grant application! |
| 15:40 | jcamins | "I did a kickass job this past year, but given a carefully calculated amount of artisan beer every day, I could do an even better job next year!" |
| 15:40 | oleonard | /no/ liquor cabinet that is |
| 15:40 | jcamins | oleonard: I was going to say, sounds like you the 2010s in Ohio are a lot more exciting than in New York. :P |
| 15:41 | WaylonR | okay , night all |
| 15:41 | going to bed. | |
| 15:41 | drojf | seems like the best thing german pirate party has done for their poll results lately is… having the house of their vice chairman raided by police to find some marihuana and cannabis plants. |
| 15:42 | jcamins | oleonard: actually, I have a liquor cabinet in the room adjoining my office. |
| 15:42 | oleonard | The benefits of working from home? |
| 15:43 | jcamins | Indeed. |
| 15:43 | Of course, one of the disadvantages is that said liquor cabinet doesn't get automatically stocked. | |
| 15:55 | gerundio | drojf, while changing the Auth_with_ldap.pm source code I found the comments regarding what still need to be done |
| 15:55 | sekjal | this is one of the first times I've listened to music at work… that's definitey something I miss from my home office days |
| 15:55 | jcamins | I actually don't listen to music while working. |
| 15:56 | gerundio | from lines 43 to 48 |
| 15:56 | jcamins | I turn on cheesy sci fi TV shows for background noise while cooking, though. |
| 15:56 | drojf | gerundio: and you are volunteering? :) |
| 15:56 | gerundio | I think I've accomplished all those goals except for the last one |
| 15:56 | drojf | jcamins: you cook while working? |
| 15:57 | gerundio | kind of :) |
| 15:57 | * oleonard | knows jcamins is talking about Cleopatra 2525 |
| 15:57 | drojf | gerundio: that's fantastic! |
| 15:57 | gerundio | I just need some directions where to perform that memberadd call |
| 15:57 | jcamins | drojf: mostly in between working, when I'm wrestling with a problem. |
| 15:58 | oleonard: actually, I just started the original Star Trek. | |
| 15:58 | drojf | jcamins: like others go for a walk? |
| 15:58 | jcamins | It was so absurd I had to stop after two episodes because it kept on distracting me from wrapping spanakopita. |
| 15:58 | drojf: right. | |
| 15:58 | drojf | that's cool :) |
| 15:59 | gerundio: i'm afraid i don't know anything about memberadd | |
| 15:59 | gerundio | ok |
| 15:59 | drojf | maybe somebody else here does |
| 15:59 | * jcamins | avoids Auth. |
| 15:59 | drojf | or you could add a question to the bug |
| 15:59 | or ask libsysguy later | |
| 16:00 | jcamins | C4::Search is enough horror. |
| 16:00 | gerundio | I'll try to trace the login action on the OPAC form |
| 16:00 | to figure out where this could be added :) | |
| 16:02 | drojf | gerundio: you are working hard for your "that LDAP guy" title :) |
| 16:02 | gerundio | lolol |
| 16:03 | well, lets just say I've been away from keyboards and code for a while | |
| 16:03 | I was managing a helpdesk team here at my faculty | |
| 16:03 | jcamins | gerundio: so you feel inspired to work on Auth_by_ldap? |
| 16:03 | gerundio: you should take a week-long vacation and come back and fix C4::Auth. | |
| 16:04 | gerundio | it feels good to get in touch with programing for a change now |
| 16:04 | drojf | a looonglasting change |
| 16:05 | jcamins | gerundio: in case it's not clear, most of us find C4::Auth horrifying and terrifying. |
| 16:05 | drojf | paid with lots of karma and glory |
| 16:05 | gerundio | I got that impression in the last few days by talking to you guys |
| 16:05 | but don't get the hopes up to high | |
| 16:06 | jcamins | gerundio: but after a week-long vacation, surely you'll be raring to go? :) |
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| 16:06 | drojf | too late. YOU CAN'T LET US DOIWN NOW!! |
| 16:06 | gerundio | if you're religious, let me just say, the saviour walked the earth 2000+ years ago :p |
| 16:06 | gaetan_B | bye ! |
| 16:08 | drojf | heh. just kidding. whatever little (or more) you choose to do is very cool! what you did now is already cool. thanks! |
| 16:08 | jcamins | gerundio: hehe. |
| 16:08 | gerundio | it would be nice to get a little more involved on some open source projects |
| 16:09 | I deal with them all the time here at work | |
| 16:09 | but I never get to have enough time on each one of them to contribute that much | |
| 16:09 | lets see how it goes this time :) | |
| 16:11 | drojf | goodness, nengard is on a help file spree |
| 16:11 | nengard | got a deadline looming |
| 16:12 | they're not as thorough as i want them | |
| 16:12 | but i do want to get them to the translators if I can | |
| 16:12 | I don't think I'll finish before the freeze | |
| 16:15 | drojf | oh it's on monday already |
| 16:15 | nengard | and I leave for a conference tomorrow |
| 16:15 | drojf | well, sleep is overrated anyway :P |
| 16:18 | nengard | jcamins do you have any help info for the did you mean feature? a help file wasn't created - I can do one, but if you have something I can copy from I'll use that |
| 16:18 | and that is your feature right? :) | |
| 16:18 | hehe | |
| 16:19 | jcamins | nengard: for the feature or for the page? |
| 16:19 | The feature is OPAC-only at the moment, which is probably why it doesn't show up in the intranet help files. | |
| 16:20 | nengard | for the page - how to use the feature from the admin area in the staff client |
| 16:20 | jcamins | The page in admin is just to enable/disable and prioritize Did you mean? plugins (OPAC-only for right now, in a follow-up for 3.12). |
| 16:20 | I didn't write any help on it. | |
| 16:20 | It's all drag-and-drop. | |
| 16:21 | Check the box for each plugin you want to enable, drag them into your preferred order, and click "Save." | |
| 16:21 | nengard | right, but what am i dragging and dropping, how does the set up effect the opac ? basically whatever would be in the manual i'll put on that help page, but i haven't put it in the manual yet |
| 16:22 | jcamins | Didn't you? I thought I approved your manual text. |
| 16:23 | See the yellow bar near the top, that suggests the Smithsonian and a couple of other Smiths? | |
| 16:24 | gerundio | think I found the origin of the problem |
| 16:24 | need some perl expertise from you now :) | |
| 16:24 | $ldap = C4::Context->config('useldapserver') || 0; | |
| 16:24 | jcamins | That's the AuthorityFile plugin. It searches for your terms in the authority file, and suggests you search for records linked to those authorities. |
| 16:25 | gerundio | this should assign $ldap with the 'useldapserver' config file value if the entry exists and otherwise set it to 0, right? |
| 16:25 | jcamins | The ExplodedTerms plugin suggests broader/narrower/related searches using the authority hierarchy links in authority records' 5xx fields. |
| 16:25 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #910 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 16:26 | jcamins | I would suspect that ExplodedTerms is not particularly useful for US public libraries, but would be useful for UNIMARC libraries, and for special libraries. |
| 16:27 | drojf | gerundio: that's what i think |
| 16:27 | but perl expertise is nothing i would claim for myself :) | |
| 16:27 | jcamins | gerundio: that's correct. The ||0 is to make sure we don't get warnings about the variable being undefined. |
| 16:28 | gerundio | hmm, weird then |
| 16:28 | nengard | jcamins nope - you approved the authorities linking text |
| 16:28 | i need some food before i start thinking about all of this :) | |
| 16:28 | gerundio | I have that set to 1 in my config file |
| 16:28 | nengard | I'll be back |
| 16:28 | gerundio | and I'm getting the value 0 there |
| 16:28 | jcamins | gerundio: are you using memcached? |
| 16:29 | gerundio | yeap :) |
| 16:30 | a memcached restart is in order then :D | |
| 16:30 | jcamins | Yeah. |
| 16:30 | gerundio | do you want the good news or the good news? :D |
| 16:30 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_8525' <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]c86a8522ef905eca1> / Follow up: Bug 8525: Update preference description <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]9394d65238c31f78c> / Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_7986' <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]p=koha.git;a=comm |
| 16:30 | jcamins | The argument against putting memcached configuration in koha-conf.xml makes very little sense, in light of the fact that any changes you make require restarting memcached anyway. |
| 16:32 | slef | @arewethereyet |
| 16:32 | huginn | slef: YES! |
| 16:32 | gerundio | I was just discussing that with a colleague |
| 16:33 | memcached for storing the settings in a production environment makes all the sense to me | |
| 16:33 | well, but lets make this official: LDAP bind authentication is now working | |
| 16:33 | jcamins | What we need is a `kohactl reload` (like `apache2ctl reload`). |
| 16:34 | Hooray! | |
| 16:34 | drojf | w00t |
| 16:35 | jcamins | libsysguy won't be around today, I think. |
| 16:35 | drojf | partying with swedes on his deck? |
| 16:35 | jcamins | lol |
| 16:35 | Closing on a house, I think. | |
| 16:36 | I warned him it was a trap, not unlike C4::Auth. | |
| 16:38 | wizzyrea | closing on a house! awesome! |
| 16:38 | @later tell libsysguy Congrats on the house! | |
| 16:38 | huginn | wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. |
| 16:39 | jcamins | Next time we see him, he's going to have gone entirely gray. :P |
| 16:39 | kf | lol |
| 16:39 | bye all and have a nice weekend! | |
| 16:39 | kf left #koha | |
| 16:39 | jcamins | drojf: "Freistadt" - that's more likely to be the town in Austria than a German note along the lines of "unknown place," right? |
| 16:39 | Bah. | |
| 16:39 | Just missed kf. I could've asked for two opinions. | |
| 16:40 | oleonard | And it's Friday--kf might not be back until Monday! |
| 16:40 | jcamins | She's on vacation next week. |
| 16:40 | No kf for a long time! | |
| 16:41 | drojf | jcamins: definitely the austrian town. not possible to use that as "unknown place" as far as i can imagine |
| 16:41 | jcamins | drojf: good. |
| 16:42 | drojf | but, well, if it's austrian, they may have crazy words with weird meanings :D |
| 16:43 | jcamins | "Eleutheropol" was identified as "Freistadt," but since "Eleutheropol" is a false imprint, I was concerned that it could be a note in German along the lines of "free [un-fixed] place." :) |
| 16:43 | dracoling | jcamins: Freistadt is also a neighborhood in Mequon, WI, USA. But that's probably not really relevant. |
| 16:43 | jcamins | dracoling: seems unlikely, unless they had a printing press in 1704. |
| 16:44 | Actually, this could be a thrilling swashbuckling adventure. | |
| 16:45 | The story of how hundreds of books were printed in Mequon, WI under a false imprint and then smuggled to Europe and claimed by booksellers in various places on the continent. | |
| 16:46 | dracoling | Simple answer denied in favor of buckling of swashes. |
| 16:47 | jcamins | Move over Dan Brown and The Da Vinci Code, here comes jcamins and The Eleutheropol Conspiracy! |
| 16:49 | drojf | jcamins: interesting idea. you would not do it that way in more or less modern german. had a look in my etymological dictionary, nothing there. it would probably rather be "Freistatt" (Stätte=place, Stadt=town) and a convention i never heard of or can find. |
| 16:49 | oleonard | Wherein the hero stops at nothing to race across the country to solve the mystery, stopping only to periodically bake bread. |
| 16:50 | jcamins | drojf: good. I hate leaving items unmapped. |
| 16:50 | drojf | :) |
| 16:50 | jcamins | This is the client for whom I did the mapping jQuery. |
| 16:52 | drojf | freistatt is also a word for "asylum, sanctuary" by the way |
| 16:52 | mapping jquery? | |
| 16:52 | jcamins | jquery library? |
| 16:52 | wahanui | jquery library is found at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ki/JQuery_Library |
| 16:53 | jcamins | Under OPAC enhanced content. |
| 16:57 | drojf | oh fancy! i have to try that. and OSM it ;) |
| 16:58 | jcamins | drojf: I'd like to use OSM + Koha's report service to actually map the entire collection. |
| 16:58 | drojf | yes, please! |
| 16:59 | jcamins | However, I want my clients' systems to be stable more than I want that, so I'm running 3.6.x. |
| 16:59 | Well- plus a few backports, but the reports service was too complicated. | |
| 17:00 | drojf | stable, schmable. shiny features!!1! :D |
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| 17:01 | jcamins | Logs? |
| 17:01 | wahanui | Logs is http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/ |
| 17:02 | jcamins | @later tell rangi Please fix logbot, he is logging [off]. |
| 17:02 | huginn | jcamins: The operation succeeded. |
| 17:03 | oleonard | jcamins: Where? |
| 17:04 | drojf | logs fine for me |
| 17:04 | jcamins | Wait... |
| 17:04 | That's weird. | |
| 17:05 | It appears in search but not in the logs. | |
| 17:05 | @later tell rangi Never mind. [off] appears in search results, but possibly not in the actual logs. | |
| 17:05 | huginn | jcamins: The operation succeeded. |
| 17:06 | oleonard | Indeed. |
| 17:07 | drojf | that is strange |
| 17:07 | and not really desirable | |
| 17:08 | jcamins | As an aside, we're pretty snarky, aren't we? :) |
| 17:10 | drojf | we are? |
| 17:10 | jcamins | Bug 8948 |
| 17:10 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8948 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , MARC21 field 787 doesn't display |
| 17:11 | jcamins | drojf: there are days, yes. |
| 17:15 | drojf | lol. i bet fb has put me in a 787 of several people that invited me. fb should really use MARC. |
| 17:17 | tcohen | eythian |
| 17:17 | jcamins | tcohen: it's Saturday in NZ. |
| 17:17 | tcohen | what are the instructions to test your packages? |
| 17:17 | oh | |
| 17:18 | i always forget :-D | |
| 17:18 | jcamins | tcohen: probably you should just do "sudo apt-get install [package name]"? |
| 17:18 | tcohen | jcamins, yes, but the packages are not there |
| 17:18 | jcamins | Oh. |
| 17:18 | Hm. | |
| 17:19 | That's a problem. | |
| 17:19 | tcohen | so I thought there must be another debian repo he is using for testing |
| 17:19 | jcamins | Actually, I see. |
| 17:19 | All the dependencies are now on debian.koha-community.org. | |
| 17:20 | So what you should be testing is that building the packages using your script works? | |
| 17:20 | Maybe? | |
| 17:20 | * jcamins | goes to eat lunch. |
| 17:24 | drojf | oh no the LDAP guy left |
| 17:25 | gerundio joined #koha | |
| 17:25 | gerundio | time to say goodbye for now |
| 17:26 | have a nice weekend everyone | |
| 17:26 | thanks for the support | |
| 17:26 | drojf | heh gerundioi i just thought to send you to another LDAP bug ;) |
| 17:26 | gerundio: | |
| 17:26 | gerundio | lolol |
| 17:27 | drojf | have a nice weekend :) come back if you get bored ;) |
| 17:27 | gerundio | isn't it solved already with this new patch? |
| 17:27 | drojf | i dont know, you are the expert :) |
| 17:27 | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8919 | |
| 17:27 | huginn | 04Bug 8919: critical, P1 - high, ---, dpavlin, Needs Signoff , ExtendedPatronAttributes not populated from LDAP |
| 17:29 | gerundio | remind me of this monday :) |
| 17:29 | gone | |
| 17:30 | drojf | ha. looks promising |
| 17:33 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #910: SUCCESS in 1 hr 7 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/910/ |
| 17:33 | * mtompset: Bug 8861 - Undefined variables in batchMod.pl trigger error logs | |
| 17:33 | * mirko: Bug 4177 opaccloud missing from the system preferences interface | |
| 17:33 | * nengard: Bug 7986 Follow Up: Update ExportWithCsvProfile | |
| 17:33 | * nengard: Bug 7986 Follow Up: Fix ExportRemoveFields | |
| 17:33 | * nengard: Follow up: Bug 8525: Update preference description | |
| 17:33 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8861 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Master , Undefined variables in batchMod.pl trigger error logs |
| 17:33 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4177 normal, P5 - low, ---, mirko, Pushed to Master , opaccloud missing from the system preferences interface | |
| 17:33 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7986 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Export issues | |
| 17:33 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8525 minor, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Passed QA , Highlight matches on details page | |
| 17:34 | tcohen | jcamins, I thought that eythian had built libkoha-contrib-tamil-perl and its dependencies into the repo |
| 17:34 | jcamins | You know, I need to configure Zebra to understand 'u' and 'v' as the same letter. |
| 17:35 | tcohen: I'm not sure. I can't figure out quite what he wanted done, so I'm just guessing. | |
| 17:35 | tcohen | yeah, me too |
| 17:38 | drojf | has the livecd manager been here somewhen since the irc meeting? |
| 17:39 | jcamins | I don't think so, but I could be mistaken. |
| 17:39 | drojf | @seen vimal |
| 17:39 | huginn | drojf: vimal was last seen in #koha 1 week, 2 days, 6 hours, 49 minutes, and 43 seconds ago: <vimal> Thanl u all |
| 17:39 | drojf | no he wasn't. (and i did remember the nick) |
| 17:51 | tcohen | jcamins, is it posible that those packages had been uploaded to a catalyst's repo? |
| 17:52 | jcamins | tcohen: possibly, but I don't know where that would be. |
| 17:52 | cait joined #koha | |
| 17:52 | tcohen | i'll let it go he, maybe on monday i can test that |
| 17:52 | thanks | |
| 17:52 | * cait | waves |
| 17:53 | jcamins | o/ |
| 17:53 | wajasu | i think he meant that he put the packages in squeeze-dev |
| 17:54 | jcamins | wajasu: but they're not there. |
| 17:54 | wajasu | oh |
| 18:06 | melia left #koha | |
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| 18:30 | drojf | sent a mail about »official« livecds to the lists. i hope it does not sound arrogant. |
| 18:36 | rangi | seems fine to me |
| 18:37 | slef | arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh I am sooooooooooooooooooo glad that koha doesn't require github |
| 18:37 | rangi | and no off in search results now |
| 18:37 | jcamins | rangi++ |
| 18:37 | slef | thank you thank you to all the lovely hosts of koha-community.org machines |
| 18:37 | jcamins | slef: what's github done? |
| 18:37 | This reminds me. Must add git hooks. | |
| 18:37 | Later. | |
| 18:37 | slef | jcamins: you can't use it without registering with them. |
| 18:38 | jcamins: and their terms suck. | |
| 18:38 | jcamins | slef: but you have to send your key to gmcharlt for git.k-c.org, too. |
| 18:39 | slef | jcamins: does gmcharlt insist on your legal full name and that you pay for his lawyers? |
| 18:39 | * oleonard | eyes gmcharlt suspiciously |
| 18:39 | gmcharlt | slef: my lawyers demand fine chocolate! |
| 18:39 | jcamins | slef: well he never did before, but now that you've suggested it... |
| 18:39 | slef | gmcharlt: tough, you missed your chance and only got a bar drink. |
| 18:39 | gmcharlt | now, to start work on my JD |
| 18:40 | slef | gmcharlt: +Coke? |
| 18:40 | cait | lol jcamins++ |
| 18:40 | magnuse | who can give @arewethereyet a new date to keep track of? |
| 18:40 | gmcharlt | heh - I had meant juris doctor, but Jack Daniels also works |
| 18:40 | cait | @quote add jcamins: Facebook may not like unspecified relationships, but rare books catalogers do! |
| 18:40 | huginn | cait: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). |
| 18:41 | cait | meh |
| 18:41 | wizzyrea | @quote add jcamins: Facebook may not like unspecified relationships, but rare books catalogers do! |
| 18:41 | huginn | wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. Quote #220 added. |
| 18:41 | cait | can someone else do me the favour? :) |
| 18:41 | thx wizzyrea | |
| 18:41 | :) | |
| 18:41 | wizzyrea | yw |
| 18:41 | rangi | @help arewethereyet |
| 18:41 | huginn | rangi: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. |
| 18:41 | rangi | @help |
| 18:41 | huginn | rangi: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin. |
| 18:41 | rangi | magnuse: i fail |
| 18:42 | magnuse | that's ok rangi :-) |
| 18:42 | we all do, some time or opther | |
| 18:42 | see? | |
| 18:42 | btw: my "get to know koha" day is fully booked - 20 people from 11 libraries - w00t! | |
| 18:43 | jcamins | Awesome! |
| 18:43 | magnuse++ | |
| 18:43 | slef | the file submited? |
| 18:43 | wahanui | the file submited is not even the correct one :( |
| 18:43 | slef | wine? |
| 18:43 | wahanui | wine is, like, an acceptable ingredient ;) |
| 18:43 | drojf | slides? |
| 18:43 | wahanui | kf should be writing slides |
| 18:43 | rangi | ok gotta shut down and pack the computer up to take camping |
| 18:43 | slef | ok, wine? |
| 18:43 | wahanui | wine is, like, not usually the best for programming :) |
| 18:43 | magnuse | ooh, have fun rangi! |
| 18:43 | slef | Of course, one of the disadvantages? |
| 18:43 | wahanui | Of course, one of the disadvantages is that said liquor cabinet doesn't get automatically stocked. |
| 18:44 | * magnuse | wanders off to eat his pizza bianca... |
| 18:44 | drojf | ah. camping. out in the wilderness. only nature. and your notebook. and smartphone. have fun :) |
| 18:44 | cait | pizza bianca... hm. |
| 18:44 | now he leaves us with that | |
| 18:44 | gmcharlt | @arewethereyet |
| 18:44 | huginn | gmcharlt: Not yet - wait 34 days |
| 18:44 | cait | yay :) |
| 18:46 | jcamins | Foccaccia uses a rich dough? |
| 18:46 | * cait | hopes rangi doesn't get eaten by a bear or one of those big reptiles |
| 18:46 | drojf | dragons? |
| 18:46 | cait | jcamins: is that some kind of new code noone told me about? :) |
| 18:47 | jcamins | cait: I was just looking pizza bianca. |
| 18:48 | * slef | adds "the new Google Groups" to his usability disaster zone blacklist |
| 18:48 | jcamins | slef: but if we had a Google group... |
| 18:48 | uhhh... | |
| 18:48 | drojf: help me out here? | |
| 18:48 | drojf | lol |
| 18:49 | once we import all mailing list data to google groups all problems will vanish | |
| 18:49 | slef | icing on the cake is "Not ready for change? Temporarily choose the old Google Groups from the settings menu." and if you do that, it says there was an error communicating with the server with a link to "Reload" and that then displays... guess what? "The new Google Groups" again, with the same "Not ready for change?" popup |
| 18:50 | * cait | hands slef an oatmeal cookie |
| 18:50 | slef | If they remade that Superbowl advert today, it wouldn't be Big Brother on the big screen, it would be Google |
| 18:50 | and it wouldn't be a hammer, it would be an iphone5, which is about the same size | |
| 18:50 | cait | no chocolate, but a cookie |
| 18:50 | slef | :) |
| 18:50 | jcamins | Oooh. |
| 18:50 | Pizza. | |
| 18:50 | drojf | that popup is supposed to say "Not ready for change to temporarely choose the old google groups from teh server menu". it's a warning |
| 18:50 | * cait | had pizza tonight... what a coincidence |
| 18:51 | jcamins | (I know you said "cookie," but that made me think about baking) |
| 18:51 | wizzyrea | oleonard: with your permission I'm going to add your bit of jquery to the library on the wiki |
| 18:51 | re: title notes vs holdings tab | |
| 18:51 | oleonard | Sure, although it will be different in 3.10+ |
| 18:51 | wizzyrea | I will specify the version |
| 18:53 | oleonard | Thanks wizzyrea. I even looked on the wiki for it before I re-figured it out for the message. |
| 18:54 | slef | Things like Google Groups really annoy me. They're ear-chewingly bad, yet still get flocks of people going to them. |
| 18:55 | oleonard | I missed posting my dinner choice online once and got a nasty letter from Google. |
| 18:55 | * drojf | considers kohaleaks |
| 18:56 | slef | oleonard: I thought it was twitter was for posting dinner choices? |
| 18:56 | oleonard: or is that why they launched google+? | |
| 18:57 | oleonard | Sorry, I should have said Instagram |
| 18:59 | wizzyrea | lol true about instagram |
| 18:59 | it's the place for pictures of your kids, or of women making duck faces, or dudes looking tough, or pictures of historical monuments taken from strange angles | |
| 19:00 | and mostly, food. | |
| 19:00 | one guy I follow does nothing but take pictures of every meal. | |
| 19:00 | they always look quite yummy. | |
| 19:03 | cait | wizzyrea: how does this cauliflower thing work? |
| 19:03 | you amde me curious although cauliflower is probably the only vegetable I don't like | |
| 19:04 | jcamins | I like cauliflower sometimes. |
| 19:04 | oleonard | Raw cauliflower with hummus! |
| 19:05 | wizzyrea | http://www.onegoodthingbyjille[…]o-believe-it.html |
| 19:06 | where "riced" cauliflower = buzzed to death in a food processor. | |
| 19:06 | well, until it looks like grain anyway. | |
| 19:06 | jcamins | wizzyrea: you mean, like rice? |
| 19:06 | :P | |
| 19:07 | wizzyrea | precisely. :{ |
| 19:07 | :P | |
| 19:07 | cait | and again... I got no microwave |
| 19:07 | *sob* | |
| 19:08 | wizzyrea | well you can steam it |
| 19:08 | that's all you're doing really | |
| 19:08 | do you have a pot and a colander? | |
| 19:08 | line the colander with a paper or cloth towel, put the cauliflower in it | |
| 19:08 | dracoling | mmmmmm. steamed cauliflower |
| 19:08 | wizzyrea | put that over a pot of boiling water |
| 19:08 | let it go for 10ish minutes | |
| 19:08 | same thing. | |
| 19:09 | you probably want a lid on that | |
| 19:09 | too. | |
| 19:09 | jcamins | Definitely a lid. |
| 19:09 | Much faster that way. | |
| 19:09 | wizzyrea | you can also make fried rice this way. |
| 19:09 | which is also yummy | |
| 19:09 | wahanui | okay, wizzyrea. |
| 19:09 | wizzyrea | forget which |
| 19:09 | wahanui | wizzyrea: I forgot which |
| 19:10 | wizzyrea | faux fried rice, I mean |
| 19:10 | * cait | looks up colander :P |
| 19:10 | wizzyrea | it's a bowl with holes in it |
| 19:10 | cait | aaah |
| 19:10 | right | |
| 19:10 | wizzyrea | :) |
| 19:10 | cait | of course I haveone |
| 19:10 | wizzyrea | yesss! |
| 19:10 | cait | but it's still cauliflower.... it will take some time until I am ready to try that |
| 19:11 | dracoling | which is literally '' |
| 19:12 | aww. no factoids for me :( | |
| 19:12 | wizzyrea | it doesn't taste like cauliflower |
| 19:12 | to me | |
| 19:12 | jcamins | which? |
| 19:12 | wahanui | which is literally '' |
| 19:12 | jcamins | wahanui: forget which |
| 19:12 | wahanui | jcamins: I forgot which |
| 19:12 | jcamins | which is <reply> |
| 19:12 | wizzyrea | which is <reply> |
| 19:12 | wahanui | i already had it that way, wizzyrea. |
| 19:12 | wizzyrea | lol |
| 19:12 | jcamins | which? |
| 19:12 | * wizzyrea | shakes her fist at jcamins |
| 19:14 | oleonard | Should have been "which is <reply> which what?" |
| 19:18 | drojf | witch? |
| 19:18 | jcamins | which witch? |
| 19:18 | wahanui | She'll put a curse on me if I tell! |
| 19:19 | drojf | lol |
| 19:20 | cait | lol |
| 19:22 | drojf | cait? |
| 19:22 | wahanui | cait is qam, not my secretary |
| 19:22 | cait | lol |
| 19:22 | jcamins | cait? |
| 19:22 | wahanui | i think cait is qam, not your secretary |
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| 20:12 | oleonard | Have a good weekend #koha |
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| 21:17 | wizzyrea | I probably won't be around much for a couple of weeks after this. :) |
| 21:18 | so be safe, productive, and well. | |
| 21:18 | and I will see you all again soon. | |
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| 21:22 | santy | hello everyone. I have a question... when saving a biblio in koha, does the Marcxml string get concatenated and updated again by the saving routine with the new values? |
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| 21:37 | santy | does the Koha api have a function to just do that... concatenate and update the marcxml field, so that I can call that function in a batch process? |
| 21:40 | I already looked but did not find one | |
| 21:44 | drojf | first question? |
| 21:44 | wahanui | "What are you trying to do?" "What is the goal?" or "What problem are you experiencing?" |
| 21:44 | drojf | second question? |
| 21:44 | wahanui | second question is, like, "What is the exact error message?" |
| 21:45 | drojf | third question? |
| 21:45 | wahanui | third question is "What version of Koha are you using?" http://koha-community.org/faq/[…]ion-koha-running/ |
| 21:45 | drojf | fourth question? |
| 21:45 | wahanui | fourth question is "Are we there yet?" |
| 21:45 | drojf | fifth question? |
| 21:45 | wahanui | i heard fifth question was "Are we there yet?" |
| 21:53 | drojf | logs? |
| 21:53 | wahanui | logs is http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/ |
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| 22:34 | jcamins_away | santy: this is the wrong way to edit records. |
| 22:35 | jcamins | You _are_ going to mess up your system, and you're not going to be able to get any help you do that. |
| 22:39 | magnuse | there is a right way to edit marc? ;-) |
| 22:40 | jcamins | magnuse: yes, without editing the XML directly. |
| 22:40 | magnuse | :-) |
| 22:41 | drojf | why is it XML if i am not supposed to edit it? *hides* |
| 22:41 | * magnuse | wonders why his memcached had a sudden spike in activity and then died a few hours ago |
| 22:42 | jcamins | drojf: so that you'll try and have to pay me at my "broken production fixing" rates? Nah, that's not a good reason. I don't want to ever charge those rates, 'cause I hate dealing with broken production systems. |
| 22:42 | drojf | heh |
| 22:42 | the '30x the normal rate' rates? | |
| 22:43 | jcamins | Yup. |
| 22:43 | drojf | why do people say nullmailer is easy to set up if it does not work? |
| 22:43 | santy | Ok, I'll try and explain, there are many organizations who already have their own standard or custom ILS systems and who are very eager to switch to Koha. unfortunately, some of them, like my client, are very restrictive of the kind of solutions a consultant may propose. In a case where one has to use java to migrate or synchronize records from foreign ILS systems things can get really rough. How am I supposed to use Koha's api from Java? I have tried, |
| 22:43 | have looked to find out the most standar and Koha compliant way to do this but must also do what my client enforces me to do. In the end all data shall be migrated to Koha successfully, the hard way. | |
| 22:44 | jcamins | santy: Koha was not designed to be used in tandem with other ILSes. |
| 22:44 | drojf | or with java |
| 22:44 | jcamins | There is no Java API at all, and almost certainly never will be. |
| 22:44 | magnuse | santy: export the data, massage it and import it into koha |
| 22:44 | santy | I know, but I just want to migrate some records from another db. |
| 22:44 | jcamins | There are a couple of web service APIs, but they're not going to do what you want either. |
| 22:45 | In order to get records from one system to another, you should export them as MARC, make any needed changes, and import them. | |
| 22:45 | magnuse | s/massage it/massage it with whatever tools you like/ |
| 22:45 | jcamins | Koha provides command line scripts. |
| 22:45 | santy | I need to migrate some 40000 records from a custom db to Koha... |
| 22:45 | magnuse | santy: can you export them as marc? |
| 22:46 | santy | that is exactly the point... I cannot |
| 22:46 | jcamins | In that case, export them as whatever you can export them, and convert them into MARC. |
| 22:46 | santy | they have a very ill designed system and there is no... export db as marc |
| 22:47 | jcamins | If you are converting them into MARCXML, that's fine. Just import that MARCXML into Koha. |
| 22:47 | magnuse | migration toolbox? |
| 22:47 | wahanui | migration toolbox is https://www.gitorious.org/koha-toolbox/ |
| 22:47 | magnuse | there are some tools there that might be useful, i think |
| 22:47 | * magnuse | calls it a day |
| 22:47 | jcamins | Any direct modifications to the Koha database have a 90%+ chance of making things worse. |
| 22:48 | santy | Well, I have to speak from my experience, I know how to concatenate the marcxml, I have done It and records show and can be searched neatly from Kohas catalog and staff interfaces.. |
| 22:48 | jcamins | santy: if you're happy with how you're doing it, that's fine. |
| 22:48 | santy | zebra processes them good |
| 22:48 | jcamins | However, if you are directly inserting MARCXML, that is bad. |
| 22:49 | That means you are failing to fill in several dozen columns that *need* to be filled in for everything to work right. | |
| 22:49 | If you are not directly importing the MARCXML, then you'll have to try rephrasing your question, because I understand that you are doing something like "INSERT INTO biblioitems (marcxml) VALUES (${marcxml});" | |
| 22:50 | Aww! | |
| 22:50 | santy | I do... I really traverse every marc code and add fields and subfields... concatenating them from a program |
| 22:50 | jcamins | Myshkin just jumped into a bag. |
| 22:50 | santy | not throug sql |
| 22:50 | jcamins | Okay, that's what we just recommended that you do. |
| 22:50 | drojf | a bag? |
| 22:50 | wahanui | I LIKE BASEBALL |
| 22:50 | jcamins | Yeah. A little paper bag with handles. |
| 22:51 | It's almost large enough for him to fit. | |
| 22:51 | santy | I know... I would prefer to call a Koha api perl function like... concatenateMarcXML(author,corporate_author,title,unititle,....) |
| 22:51 | jcamins | santy: okay, now I understand. |
| 22:51 | santy | but I don't know if there is one |
| 22:51 | jcamins | There is not. |
| 22:52 | santy | ok |
| 22:52 | jcamins | santy: that's very different from what it sounded like you were asking initially. |
| 22:52 | santy | you're right, sometimes these questions are not easy to explain |
| 22:53 | drojf | awwww |
| 22:53 | cjh | nawww |
| 22:54 | drojf | cats and bags, cats and boxes. they sure know how to have it cozy :) |
| 22:54 | jcamins | santy: santy so it sounds to me like this is the best way to go about things. |
| 22:56 | santy | well it worked... I'm succesfully importing ISIS records, and zebra indexes fine. |
| 22:57 | If this project goes well I might show you what I did and port my java webservice to perl and some how make it official. | |
| 22:59 | jcamins | Regardless how the project works, you should seriously consider making all the code open source and available. |
| 22:59 | Someone just might pick up some of your code and make it better. | |
| 23:01 | santy | I will, sure... I mean if things go well, at least I can say synchronizing already works between kohas, and WINSISI. i still have to implement SIABUC8 (which uses access) |
| 23:01 | jcamins | Ewww. |
| 23:01 | * jcamins | hates Access. |
| 23:01 | jcamins | It was an excuse for people who didn't know anything about databases to break things. |
| 23:03 | Also, Access crashes a lot. | |
| 23:03 | santy | lol, I know access is not very reliable for a production system... but, there really are government agencies that have access based ILS... and its my duty to remotely show their records through Koha |
| 23:04 | drojf | government agencies are crazy |
| 23:05 | santy | yes... they are so inertial... picky... and burocratic |
| 23:06 | I still don't know if in the end they make me implement everything on redhat | |
| 23:07 | drojf | good luck with that |
| 23:07 | if it goes really bad they make you reimplement koha in java :P | |
| 23:07 | santy | oh God |
| 23:08 | It WAS hard to convince them that the ISIS synchronizer had to be implemented on perl | |
| 23:10 | anyway, if they mess up the project with their guidelines, they will be under pressure from 52 public libraries | |
| 23:10 | (which I have to syncronize) | |
| 23:23 | drojf | santy: why does it have to be java? i kind of understand the redhat thing (if they are a redhat partner blah blah), but why do they dictate a programming language for the import stuff? as long as it works, what does it matter? |
| 23:24 | santy | because it is difficult for them to find and hire programmers for any other language... |
| 23:25 | not many people here know perl | |
| 23:25 | drojf | i see |
| 23:26 | jcamins | santy: do they understand that Koha is written in Perl? |
| 23:27 | santy | yes, they do, and accepted it because Koha is such a marvelous free system |
| 23:27 | they are into open source right now | |
| 23:27 | which is cool | |
| 23:27 | * jcamins | thinks that's very good. |
| 23:28 | jcamins | But if they're not planning on keeping an Perl programmers on-staff, nor hiring a vendor for support, things could be very difficult. |
| 23:28 | santy | but they have their quirks |
| 23:29 | well, I know a bit of perl, (did an ISIS syncronizer), they say they might hire me | |
| 23:33 | drojf | they have not hired you yet? how come you work for them already? |
| 23:34 | santy | I mean, hire me again... |
| 23:36 | drojf | oh look my koha sent mail |
| 23:36 | good koha, have a cookie | |
| 23:37 | still does not send a recall mail for bug 8688 but errors | |
| 23:37 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8688 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, fcapovilla, Needs Signoff , Add a recall button to the biblio record details page. |
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| 23:43 | drojf | how did it use a smarthost without me giving username and password? that's interesting |
| 23:46 | jcamins | drojf: I've never figured out how to use nullmailer. |
| 23:46 | drojf | jcamins: it's postfix, nullmailer did not work for me |
| 23:47 | jcamins | Ah. |
| 23:47 | Postfix always works well for me. | |
| 23:47 | drojf | it did send a testmail, but it did not relay localhost mails (from koha) |
| 23:47 | postfix now just worked. that did not happen before. i'm a little confused how it uses the smarthost though without logging in :D | |
| 23:50 | but maybe that is the reason the recall thingy does not work | |
| 23:51 | some mail is much better than no mail at all. i consider this a win. and wonder how i did not manage to configure postfix before, it just works | |
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