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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 00:22 | rangi | I think he meant we could install gitorious alongside gitweb |
| 00:22 | On our server to give that interface to ppl | |
| 00:28 | jcamins_away | Oh. |
| 00:28 | jcamins | Why would we want to? |
| 00:29 | (no objection, I just don't know why we would) | |
| 00:46 | eythian_ joined #koha | |
| 01:34 | eythian_ | wahanui: wallet inspector is <reply> If you're a wallet inspector, how come I never see you at the staff meetings?|<reply> I don't suppose I could talk you into looking the other way this once?|<reply> Ok, here you go. |
| 01:34 | wahanui | OK, eythian_. |
| 01:36 | jcamins | eythian: why would we want to use gitorious? |
| 01:36 | rangi said you meant installing gitorious on git.k-c.org, not their hosting, but I don't quite see what gitorious offers that gitweb + real git does not. | |
| 01:38 | rangi: there's an error in one of your 3.8.x XSS patches, I think. "|htm l" instead of "|html " | |
| 01:43 | eythian_ | jcamins: yeah, installing a local gitorious instance. It's just a full-functional thing compared to gitweb, so you can submit patches and make merge requests and such like. |
| 01:44 | it wouldn't suit koha proper, but the smaller things along-side it that don't use bugzilla etc. | |
| 01:44 | jcamins | I see. |
| 01:44 | Okay, that makes sense. | |
| 01:44 | eythian_ | I've been using it quite well for the migration tools stuff. |
| 02:19 | jcamins | Well, drath. |
| 02:19 | *drat | |
| 02:20 | @later tell gmcharlt When you get a chance could you add the key I e-mailed you to git.k-c.org? I tried to push 3.6.x, and it didn't recognize my credentials. | |
| 02:20 | huginn | jcamins: The operation succeeded. |
| 02:22 | rangi | jcamins: the signed off one should be the fixed version |
| 02:24 | jcamins | rangi: oh, did you have different ones for 3.6.x? |
| 02:24 | I was just cherry-picking off of 3.8.x and resolving the conflicts myself. | |
| 02:25 | rangi | hmm darn, the signed off one that paul should have pushed should have been fixed, i was sure cait fixed it when signing off |
| 02:25 | jcamins | Yeah, the page numbering one has that problem. |
| 02:25 | rangi | guess she didnt |
| 02:25 | ta | |
| 02:26 | jcamins | The problem only shows up when you have a sort set. |
| 02:26 | rangi | yep it was spotted when testing and fixed, i think she attached the wrong patch never mind ill fix now for 3.8.x |
| 02:26 | thanks for the heads up | |
| 02:27 | jcamins | You're welcome. |
| 02:28 | Does Plack overload defined()? | |
| 02:28 | rangi | hmm it might |
| 02:28 | jcamins | I think it must. |
| 02:29 | defined ($authtype) ? $authtype->{whatever} : '' doesn't work. | |
| 02:29 | $authtype = undef, and it still keeps trying $authtype->{whatever} | |
| 02:30 | rangi | hmm yeah it must |
| 02:40 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #201 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 02:50 | jcamins | Bug 8914. |
| 02:50 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8914 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Blank search that returns invalid authorities fails under Plack |
| 02:50 | jcamins | Absolutely bizarre. |
| 02:51 | But patched. | |
| 03:19 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.8.x build #201: SUCCESS in 38 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.8.x/201/ |
| 03:19 | Chris Cormack: Bug 3652: Fixing a typo | |
| 03:19 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3652 critical, P1 - high, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , XSS vulnerabilities |
| 03:30 | eythian_ joined #koha | |
| 04:17 | eythian_ | cjh: you know what you have to do: support MARC and Z39.50 :) |
| 04:17 | or just submit Koha as your project ;) | |
| 05:02 | mtompset joined #koha | |
| 05:20 | balin | Yesterday I reported that /cgi-bin/koha/cataloguing/z3950_search.pl wasn't working for me from cataloging --> z39.50 search |
| 05:21 | I figured out why: the button is linking to "http", while I am piping all connections through "https" using nginx. | |
| 05:22 | Is there any way to tell koha to use "https" rather than "http" for all links or do I have to rewrite those through nginx? | |
| 05:56 | druthb joined #koha | |
| 05:59 | mveron joined #koha | |
| 05:59 | mveron | Good morning #koha |
| 06:11 | I wanted to track down perl modules that need updates. It seems, that JSON:Any ist depractated? | |
| 06:11 | http://search.cpan.org/~perigr[…]ny.pm#DEPRECATION | |
| 06:19 | ...and I can't find out where JSON::Any is acutally used, behalve of PerlDependencies.pm | |
| 06:24 | cait joined #koha | |
| 06:27 | mtompset | Hmmm... mveron, good question. Perhaps it is a dependency of another library? |
| 06:31 | mveron | mtompset: It appears ont the About page: JSON::Any 1.22 (marked yellow) and I was wondering where it is used |
| 06:31 | mtompset | Really? |
| 06:31 | What version? | |
| 06:31 | I just checked my 3.8.5 and it isn't there. | |
| 06:31 | mveron | 3.09.00.061 |
| 06:32 | cait | hm I think it waqs quite recent |
| 06:32 | added I mean | |
| 06:33 | * mveron | waves to cait :-) |
| 06:33 | * cait | waves back |
| 06:33 | cait | still wakiing up :) |
| 06:33 | mveron | Morgenstund hat Gold im Mund :-) |
| 06:34 | cait | heh |
| 06:35 | mveron | Aurora habet aurum in ore :-) |
| 06:35 | Wikipedia :-) | |
| 06:36 | * mveron | needs some coffee |
| 06:37 | cait | :) |
| 06:37 | mtompset | Nah, you just need a M.D. -- Mountain Dew. Maybe some Vitamin C (Coke). ;) |
| 06:39 | druthb joined #koha | |
| 06:39 | cait | hi druthb |
| 06:39 | druthb? | |
| 06:39 | wahanui | druthb is http://about.me/druthb |
| 06:39 | druthb | Hi |
| 06:40 | mtompset | Greetings, druthb. I thought you were going to get a newer photo? Haven't had time yet? |
| 06:41 | druthb | Nope. Probably this weekend. |
| 06:41 | mtompset | Oh, I tried to follow the librarygeekgirl.net link. It's not working for me. |
| 06:42 | druthb | ! I'll check on that. It's waaaay out of date. I haven't blogged since May. :/ |
| 06:43 | mtompset | BTW, I like the simple yet functional layout of the page. |
| 06:44 | druthb | About.me is pretty slick. Nice for an online biz card like that |
| 06:46 | mtompset | My difficulty would be getting a decent photo. I'm only photogenic when I fork out big bucks to professional photographers. :( |
| 06:47 | druthb | Heh. I'm not very photogenic. I manage not to scare lil kids with this face, but that's about it |
| 06:50 | Cait's opinion on my photogenic-ness may not agree with mine. | |
| 06:51 | mtompset | We are our own worst critics, are we not? |
| 06:51 | * cait | nods |
| 06:51 | cait | mtompset: that's the problem, yes |
| 06:51 | druthb | Frequently |
| 06:55 | balin | Sorry if I repeat myself (more people awake now): is there any way to force koha to make links "https" rather than "http"? |
| 06:55 | cait | yes, we do that for our installations |
| 06:56 | mtompset | Perhaps specify the Intranet/OPAC urls expressly that way in the system preferences? |
| 06:56 | cait | I tihnk you have to do something in your apache configuration |
| 06:56 | balin | system preferences as in gui or on the fs? |
| 06:56 | cait | system preferences are in administraiton in the gui |
| 06:57 | but I am not sure it will be enough | |
| 06:57 | and to really make it work nicely oyu will need certificates | |
| 06:57 | it's more a system administration kind of thing | |
| 06:57 | mtompset | No, because you will have to tweak your apache settings to listen to 443? |
| 06:57 | Shoot... I forget the port number. | |
| 06:57 | druthb | 443, yes |
| 06:58 | mtompset | Yes, it is 443... so you'll have to tell apache to listen on 443 instead of 80. |
| 06:58 | I think /etc/apache2/ports.conf? | |
| 06:58 | druthb | Yep |
| 06:58 | mtompset | and /etc/apache2/sites-available/library |
| 06:59 | druthb | Then the virtualhost configs |
| 07:00 | mtompset | (well, if library was your instance name) |
| 07:03 | mveron | I did following search: git log -SJSON::Any --pretty=oneline --abbrev-commit |
| 07:03 | ...and got: Bug 8233: Followup: Search engine layer: Add dependencies. | |
| 07:03 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8233 major, P2, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , New search engine layer - introduce solr without breaking anything else |
| 07:04 | cait | ah |
| 07:06 | mtompset | That would have been my guess -- let's blame Solr. ;) |
| 07:08 | Instead of Milli Vanilli's hit, "Blame it on the Rain" we'll have "Blame it on Solr" | |
| 07:12 | mveron | I commented the bug. |
| 07:13 | * mveron | has to head away |
| 07:30 | balin | I will opt for nginx to just redirect everything to "https" - let's see whether that's going to wor. |
| 07:33 | eythian_ joined #koha | |
| 07:50 | mtompset | Okay... question... I need some git advice. |
| 07:50 | Let's pretend I've never used git before. | |
| 07:50 | I've cloned up the koha git. | |
| 07:51 | should I build off what I just cloned, or should I check something out before I build? | |
| 07:51 | cait | create a new branc |
| 07:51 | never change master | |
| 07:51 | always use a new branch for any changes | |
| 07:52 | hm for installation I think it should be ok to do without a branch | |
| 07:52 | mtompset | and there's my dilemma. |
| 07:53 | Who could give me an authoritative answer? | |
| 07:54 | cait | ? |
| 07:55 | mtompset | I'm working on the git instructions for Ubuntu. |
| 07:55 | Right now, the way they are written. It does a detached head. | |
| 07:55 | I think that was a bad idea on my part. | |
| 07:55 | liw | mtompset, it's your local repository, you're allowed to do anything you like with it; however, it's easier to do any commits to a dedicated branch rather than directly to master, for easier collaboration with others; if you're not making any commits, you should be able to build off master no problem |
| 07:57 | mtompset | Okay. I'll go with a branch. I don't want to go in a direction that makes it harder for newbies (like myself) on a forward basis. |
| 08:26 | Thank you for your feedback, liw. :) | |
| 08:28 | liw | mtompset, you're welcome |
| 09:01 | cait left #koha | |
| 09:22 | Oak joined #koha | |
| 09:40 | drojf joined #koha | |
| 09:47 | mtompset | Greetings, Oak and drojf. |
| 09:47 | How goes it? | |
| 09:47 | Oak | hello mtompset :) |
| 09:48 | how are you? | |
| 09:48 | mtompset | Tired and stressed. Nothing new. :) |
| 09:48 | I'm doing a git installation to test the Ubuntu instructions... they need to get tested. | |
| 09:49 | I never made it completely through yet. | |
| 09:49 | Oak | :) hmmm |
| 09:50 | mtompset | I'm at the "make" step now. :) |
| 10:03 | Okay "make test" with a few failures. | |
| 10:03 | Now to document how to handle them. | |
| 10:14 | drojf | hi #koha |
| 10:16 | mtompset | That was a slow reply, drojf. ;) |
| 10:18 | drojf | sorry, still waking up ;) |
| 10:19 | mtompset | Sounds like a coffee commercial is needed. "The best part of waking up, is folgers in your cup." |
| 10:20 | drojf | no coffee for me, got club mate (a softdrinknwith yerba mate) for my coffeine needs |
| 10:22 | mtompset | wow... make test just got noisier! |
| 10:23 | drojf | as in errors? |
| 10:26 | mtompset | warnings, as rangi would insist. ;) |
| 10:27 | had to install libdbd-mock-perl and libcache-memcache-fast-perl to get the tests to pass. | |
| 11:24 | cait joined #koha | |
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| 11:40 | balin | Hi. Worked around my https/http issue when accessing z39.50 search in cataloging by nginx rewriting. I can now actually query the LOC but when I try to import the result I hit this erreo: |
| 11:40 | "Can't call method "title" without a package or object reference at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/cataloguing/addbiblio.pl line 828." | |
| 11:40 | What might this mean? | |
| 11:47 | cait | hm |
| 11:47 | ich bin mir nicht sicher | |
| 11:47 | in den system preferences, steht dort bei marcflavour marc21? | |
| 11:48 | und unter mehr > über Koha - sind dort die pakete alle grün? | |
| 11:48 | bzw. wird angezeigt, dass etwas fehlt? | |
| 12:01 | jcamins_away | mtompset: there's already a patch for that. |
| 12:02 | jcamins | Wow. |
| 12:03 | I'm running a security scanner against master. | |
| 12:03 | I started it... more than 9 hours ago. | |
| 12:05 | (and it's still running) | |
| 12:06 | mtompset | How do you search bugzilla so you can find those? I never can seem to find anything. |
| 12:06 | cait | if a bug mght be closed, using ALL in front of your search words might help |
| 12:06 | and more general searches work better for me | |
| 12:06 | so not trying to use the advanced search, just one or 2 simple but specific keywords | |
| 12:07 | and hi mtompset and jcamins | |
| 12:08 | jcamins | mtompset: search for "sneakily." |
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| 12:10 | mtompset | That doesn't solve a lack in the PerlDependencies.pm or ubuntu.packages -- but it does explain the explosion in errors. |
| 12:11 | jcamins | @query dependencies |
| 12:11 | huginn | jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2092 enhancement, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Koha should support Unicode 6 |
| 12:11 | jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5599 normal, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, NEW , koha_perl_deps.pl and PerlDependencies.pm don't compare $VERSION numbers correctly | |
| 12:11 | jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8402 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , replace 'install_misc/debian.packages' file with 'koha-debian-deps.pl' script | |
| 12:11 | jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2131 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, NEW , Enhanced Content - Multiple Choices | |
| 12:11 | jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4847 minor, P5 - low, ---, robin, NEW , Python required for Debian package builds | |
| 12:11 | jcamins | @query missing dependencies |
| 12:11 | huginn | jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5599 normal, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, NEW , koha_perl_deps.pl and PerlDependencies.pm don't compare $VERSION numbers correctly |
| 12:11 | jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8402 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , replace 'install_misc/debian.packages' file with 'koha-debian-deps.pl' script | |
| 12:11 | jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5327 enhancement, P3, ---, bart.tj, ASSIGNED , Omnibus for unit tests required for all C4 modules | |
| 12:11 | jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8636 major, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, ASSIGNED , Some dependencies are not listed by the installer | |
| 12:11 | jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7409 normal, P5 - low, ---, robin, In Discussion , Missing dependencies for Debian package | |
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| 12:13 | jcamins | mtompset: both those packages were added to PerlDependencies ages ago. |
| 12:15 | I think probably you need to update your git repository. | |
| 12:15 | mtompset | I just cloned it! |
| 12:16 | i was doing a fresh from scratch install. | |
| 12:16 | libdbd-mock-perl and .... | |
| 12:16 | not required. | |
| 12:16 | I am positive I read a bug where Chris was going to remove the memcached one. | |
| 12:16 | jcamins | He is going to move the Memcached dependency that isn't used. |
| 12:16 | mtompset | But I didn't write it down. ARG! |
| 12:17 | cached-memcached-fast IS used. | |
| 12:17 | that's why the test failed. | |
| 12:17 | and if it is only used in tests, then the tests need changing too. | |
| 12:18 | jcamins | That would be why Chris isn't removing it. |
| 12:18 | Chris is removing the memcached dependency that isn't used. | |
| 12:19 | mtompset | The problem we have with dependencies is that it needs to be in 3/4 places right now. |
| 12:20 | So the build debian/control is fine. | |
| 12:20 | but a git/tarball install fails on the tests when koha_perl_deps.pl -m -u says everything is not required. | |
| 12:21 | jcamins | Add a note on bug 8636. |
| 12:21 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8636 major, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, ASSIGNED , Some dependencies are not listed by the installer |
| 12:24 | balin | cait: sorry for the delay ... kids are very distracting: marflovour is marc21 ... DateTime::TimeZone requires an update, but should that be it? |
| 12:24 | jcamins | balin: how did you solve the first problem with a rewrite rule? |
| 12:26 | cait | balin: I will let take jcamins over - because I am not good on the server administration sides and no more ideas |
| 12:26 | * jcamins | can't promise anything. |
| 12:27 | balin | jcamins: http://mibpaste.com/UYiLyJ |
| 12:28 | That's part of my nginx config and rewrites all incomming calls to http with https ... | |
| 12:28 | jcamins | Oh-ho. |
| 12:28 | I _was_ on the right track. | |
| 12:28 | It's just that the link doesn't obey staffclientbaseurl. | |
| 12:28 | What are you forwarding to? | |
| 12:29 | balin | to a lxc container that runs koha |
| 12:30 | jcamins | Ooh, lxc will perfectly meet my needs. |
| 12:30 | balin | the link obeys staff client base url, but one can't configure "https" there ... |
| 12:31 | jcamins | Oooh. That's a problem. |
| 12:31 | balin | just recently started with lxc ... love it ... so easy to play and just scrap things ... I have base systems for debian testing, stale ,etc. lying around, which I just can clone and add too ... lovely! |
| 12:32 | jcamins | It'll do very well for testing the Koha release process, I think. |
| 12:32 | balin | but now I anyway have this ""Can't call method "title" without a package or object reference at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/cataloguing/addbiblio.pl line 828." problem when trying to import from the library of conress ... any insight? |
| 12:32 | jcamins | You're on 3.8.5, right? |
| 12:33 | balin | Koha version: 3.08.05.000 |
| 12:33 | jcamins | Are you using Apache in the lxc box? |
| 12:33 | balin | yes. |
| 12:33 | jcamins | Okay, so it's not a Plack thing. |
| 12:34 | balin | vanilla install in 10.10.10.3 ... nginx on the host forwards to 10.10.10.3:80 ... |
| 12:35 | jcamins | Installed using package you said... correct? |
| 12:35 | balin | yes. |
| 12:37 | MARC bibliographic framework test tells me: item type not defined at least 1 item type must be definedf - might that be it? I guess I need some howto on how to start playing with this after installation ... pointers? | |
| 12:38 | jcamins | Oh. |
| 12:38 | Yes, that might be it. | |
| 12:39 | Well, probably not item types. | |
| 12:39 | Maybe. | |
| 12:39 | balin | there isn't a bunch of predefined types? |
| 12:39 | jcamins | Not unless you select them. |
| 12:40 | balin | where? |
| 12:40 | jcamins | You need to make sure you have at least one library, one item type, and one patron category. |
| 12:40 | In the installer. | |
| 12:40 | At the very beginning. | |
| 12:40 | It's easy to add an item type. | |
| 12:40 | balin | can the installer be rerun or do I have to start all over? |
| 12:40 | jcamins | It cannot be rerun, but I see no reason to start over. |
| 12:40 | It's very easy. | |
| 12:41 | Most people do not use the sample item types. | |
| 12:43 | balin | Defining a item type "Book" - am I to naive her? - and re-running the import produces the same error. |
| 12:43 | jcamins | Okay. |
| 12:43 | We've ruled that out, then. | |
| 12:43 | balin | patron category is in the works ... gimme a sec. |
| 12:44 | jcamins | Can you try accessing the Apache server directly? |
| 12:44 | balin | You mean without forwarding? |
| 12:44 | jcamins | Right. |
| 12:45 | balin | That's kinda tricky, as it's a remote server ... will try port forwarding in the course of the evening and report back, ok? |
| 12:45 | jcamins | Actually, let me try 3.8.5 on a spare VM. |
| 12:45 | * jcamins | forgot that he now has a spare VM. :) |
| 12:47 | jcamins | Okay, it worked fine for me. |
| 12:48 | And no combination of CGI arguments causes that to happen. | |
| 12:50 | Yeah, I think the next thing is to try port forwarding. | |
| 12:51 | balin | Grrr ... a defined patron category doesn't change things either ... port forwarding thus needs to be explored. |
| 12:51 | jcamins | Actually, one more thing. |
| 12:52 | Create a new user, give it superlibrarian privileges, and log in as that user. | |
| 12:52 | You must currently be logged in as the database user? | |
| 12:53 | Wait. | |
| 12:53 | I see the problem. | |
| 12:53 | What is the URI you are accessing, exactly? | |
| 12:53 | With all the params. | |
| 12:53 | (you can redact the server name) | |
| 12:54 | And, just to confirm, you don't have any records in this database, do you? | |
| 13:26 | mtompset | Shoot. I must have done something wrong. It's trying to index my git install as koha.koha |
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| 14:11 | mtompset | YAY! Figured out how to get it to work properly. Silly environment variables to by pass unset configuration variables. |
| 14:24 | balin | jcamins: "cgi-bin/koha/cataloguing/addbiblio.pl?biblionumber=-1&z3950=1&frameworkcode=Default&breedingid=-1" |
| 14:25 | No records, no. | |
| 14:25 | And yes, database user | |
| 14:25 | jcamins | balin: okay... it shouldn't be possible to have a link like that. |
| 14:25 | breedingid should be positive. | |
| 14:26 | balin | aha. But where is this coming from? Need to be a superlibrarian? |
| 14:29 | jcamins | No, that has nothing to do with it. |
| 14:29 | It was a red herring. | |
| 14:29 | (the user) | |
| 14:29 | I fear it is something specific to lxc. | |
| 14:30 | balin | so whats ablue one ? ;) |
| 14:30 | jcamins | Hehe. |
| 14:30 | balin | Will see whether portforwarding gets me further tonight. |
| 14:31 | jcamins | Yeah, that'd be the next thing to try. |
| 14:36 | mtompset | jcamins, do you do your git installs for koha as a koha user, or as yourself? |
| 14:37 | jcamins | As myself. |
| 14:38 | If you're doing a git install, you can expected to know how to modify the init scripts. | |
| 14:38 | If you don't know how to modify the init scripts, you shouldn't be doing a git install. | |
| 14:38 | mtompset | Yes, but an install without having to edit the init scripts is nicer. :) |
| 14:39 | And I found a way. :) | |
| 14:39 | jcamins | Yes, don't run the init scripts as root. |
| 14:40 | mtompset | The Ubuntu git instructions are almost at an "acceptable, but not perfect" state. |
| 14:40 | Without running as root. :P | |
| 14:40 | Still needs a couple more passes. | |
| 14:40 | jcamins | mtompset: but are they so long that no one will ever read through them now? |
| 14:41 | mtompset | Some of that is related to things that need to get cut. |
| 14:41 | jcamins | I have to tell you I have never encountered anyone running into problems doing a git install when what they actually wanted was a git install. |
| 14:42 | mtompset | well, except for dependencies... and users it wasn't too bad. |
| 14:43 | But given that master is development... dependency issues are to be expected a bit. :) | |
| 14:43 | jcamins | mtompset: I have been on this channel more-or-less continuously for two years. Never in that time has someone qualified to run a git install reported that the instructions were unclear. |
| 14:43 | mtompset | It's not that they were unclear... they required leaps of familiarity. |
| 14:44 | * cait_away | agrees with jcamins |
| 14:44 | cait_away | I did it almost without any linux knowledge |
| 14:44 | about... um 4 years ago or so | |
| 14:45 | jcamins | Wow. Running a console in tmux is kind of weird. |
| 14:58 | cait_away | hm I am sorry |
| 15:00 | jcamins | cait: not a problem, it's just kind of odd the way that tmux and the console emulator interact. |
| 15:03 | * cait | didn't excactly mean that |
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| 15:06 | student | hi im writing a paper on koha and im interested to find out if there are any add on features |
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| 15:08 | okayhi | im currently writing a paper on koha and interested in if there are any add ons |
| 15:09 | cait | hm |
| 15:09 | mibbit? | |
| 15:09 | wahanui | well, mibbit is linked from k-c.org |
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| 15:09 | mtompset | same person coming and going. |
| 15:10 | okayhi | hello |
| 15:10 | what modules does koha have? | |
| 15:11 | mtompset | Sadly, I can't answer that as I'm on my way out. |
| 15:11 | Sorry. | |
| 15:11 | Have a good day (24 hour period), #koha. | |
| 15:11 | cait | okayhi: sorry, but we can't wrote your home work for you |
| 15:11 | i suggest you take a look at one of the demos | |
| 15:11 | and if you can't find a module or function you can ask | |
| 15:11 | there is also a lot of documentation around | |
| 15:11 | demos? | |
| 15:11 | manual? | |
| 15:11 | wahanui | manual is at http://www.koha-community.org/documentation |
| 15:11 | cait | that's the manaul |
| 15:11 | I will find the demo link for you | |
| 15:12 | http://koha-community.org/demo/ | |
| 15:13 | and make sure you stay on koha-community.org websites | |
| 15:13 | okayhi | thanks |
| 15:16 | does koha have federated searching? | |
| 15:19 | jcamins | okayhi: have you read the manual? |
| 15:20 | I think you will find it answers many of your questions. | |
| 15:30 | Apparently suggesting looking at the manual was offensive. | |
| 15:40 | liw | jcamins, it often is :( |
| 15:40 | in my youth I was naive and co-founded the linux documentation project; I've learnt since that other people never read manuals :) | |
| 15:41 | jcamins | liw: yes, but I feel like you should be doing that if you're in library school writing a paper purporting to be about an open source system. |
| 15:42 | liw | jcamins, I do not disagree |
| 15:42 | jcamins | I didn't think you would. |
| 15:42 | lxc is really cool. | |
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| 15:42 | jcamins | Unfortunately, I'm not understanding how to control it from outside the container. |
| 15:42 | druthb | o/ |
| 15:43 | jcamins | Well, ssh, I guess. |
| 15:45 | * jcamins | wants to use lxc-start-ephemeral to test installation and configuration of releases. |
| 16:36 | balin | jcamins two ways: ssh but there is also a lxc-console |
| 16:36 | I suse ssh ... | |
| 16:36 | use ... suse? brrrr ... DEBIAN! | |
| 16:40 | jcamins | balin: my challenge is that lxc-console is interactive-only, and I'm still trying to figure out how to get the IP address for SSH. |
| 16:41 | balin | <topdir> contains a config (and the rootfs) ... its defined in the config. |
| 16:43 | jcamins | That only seems to work for regular containers, not ephemeral containers. |
| 16:43 | Ooh, I know. | |
| 16:43 | balin | sorry - ephermal is not my cup of tea yet ... |
| 16:44 | jcamins | I can have the ephemeral container do some sort of SSH thing to connect to the host. |
| 16:45 | * jcamins | doesn't know what sort of SSH thing it could do. |
| 16:46 | balin | jcamins ... kids in bed, so I just went away from my nginx setup and tried with a plain port DNATing from the host (outside port) to the koha-lxc container ... I keep seeing the "Can't call method "title" without a package or object reference at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/cataloguing/addbiblio.pl line 828." |
| 16:47 | jcamins | Really? This is bizarre. |
| 16:47 | Any chance you could do a screen capture of how you're trying to import a record? | |
| 16:56 | I see why biblionumber=-1&breedingid=-1 would cause that error, but I don't see how one could get those arguments. | |
| 16:56 | balin | jcamins - screen shots done. Wher could I upload them? |
| 16:57 | jcamins | balin: imgur.com is fine. |
| 16:58 | A lot of people use Jing+screencast.com, but anywhere will work. | |
| 17:00 | balin | the logs only show the same error ... I have marked with squiggly red what buttons/links I pressed ... |
| 17:01 | jcamins | Thanks. |
| 17:02 | balin | imgur hanging on the 2nd image of 5 ... |
| 17:03 | trying again. | |
| 17:04 | hanging on the first one this time. | |
| 17:09 | jcamins: http://tinyurl.com/9852n33 | |
| 17:10 | have to run now ... will check on response later ... | |
| 17:10 | jcamins | Oh, I see. |
| 17:10 | balin | What am I screwing up? |
| 17:10 | jcamins | balin: your settings for the LC Z39.50 server are not correct. It's not actually downloading any records, it's just displaying a spare error message with an import button. |
| 17:12 | They should look like this: http://screencast.com/t/2nGfPtZeEunn | |
| 17:15 | balin | dooh ... will try again later. Thanks! |
| 17:16 | jcamins | You're welcome. |
| 17:16 | Good luck. | |
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| 20:53 | cait | rangi++ |
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| 21:05 | jcamins | wajasu: as I recall you were working on changing your development system over to using lxc. |
| 21:05 | wajasu: did you do that? If so, how do you share files between the container and the host? | |
| 21:07 | wajasu | ok. |
| 21:07 | funny you asked. | |
| 21:08 | jcamins | Uh-oh. |
| 21:08 | wajasu | i am in the process of migrating to systemd today, as it seems that archlinux and most distros are taking this route. |
| 21:09 | jcamins | I have learned that sshfs requires unacceptable compromises to security. |
| 21:09 | wajasu | in the VM, i had to edit /etc/fuser or such to use allow_other |
| 21:10 | but ii was just using my VM sa a test/dev VM, not prod. | |
| 21:11 | i acutally started to set up lxc last night, and needed to use do some cgroups related config, so i put it off a bit. | |
| 21:11 | jcamins | Ah, actual VM. |
| 21:11 | Right. | |
| 21:13 | wajasu | i i did clean up my VM build script, and it takes 4 minutes to creates a koha-common based VM, and i usually just sshfs the /home/koha/kohaclone from my hostOS, which has my git repos. |
| 21:15 | jcamins | My host is a VM, so I figure it's best not to run a VM under a VM. |
| 21:18 | wajasu | nested VMs is probably not viable without some headaches, but if i get my systemd migration done, i will mess with the lxc option. |
| 21:21 | i looked into using libguestfs, and febootstrap (wich supports multiple distros) and run the containiers with kvm with libvirt | |
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