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| 03:13 | mtompset joined #koha | |
| 03:13 | mtompset | Greetings! |
| 03:13 | Disk space problem fixed. YAY! | |
| 03:17 | jcamins_away | What was it? |
| 03:17 | mtompset | The hosts sysadmin was doing a 'mv' of some folders. |
| 03:17 | But across partitions... it actually does a cp and del. | |
| 03:18 | jcamins_away | Right. |
| 03:18 | mtompset | So, the problem has been remedied now. |
| 03:18 | I'm happy. Koha use is back to normal now. :) | |
| 03:21 | jcamins_away | Any explanation for the ffs filesystem? |
| 03:22 | mtompset | Didn't ask. |
| 03:23 | I got my 20GB back... everything is good in the world. :) | |
| 03:27 | jcamins_away | Fair enough. |
| 04:01 | Oak joined #koha | |
| 04:03 | * Oak | waves |
| 04:03 | mtompset | Greetings, Oak. |
| 04:03 | * mtompset | frowns. |
| 04:04 | mtompset | All the October 4 error log entries are: additem.pl: Subroutine plugin redefined at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/cataloguing/value_builder/dateaccessioned.pl line 101. |
| 04:04 | Such floodiness. | |
| 04:04 | jcamins_away | Hehe. |
| 04:04 | Of course the subroutine was redefined. | |
| 04:04 | What's odd is that you're getting the warnings. | |
| 04:05 | That's why that file is not "use warnings" safe. | |
| 04:05 | mtompset | Hey, this is a standard 3.8.5 packages install. |
| 04:06 | You mean I shouldn't be getting those floody warnings? | |
| 04:06 | jcamins_away | Right. |
| 04:06 | mtompset | Like someone inserted a "use warnings" that shouldn't be there? |
| 04:06 | jcamins_away | Right. |
| 04:06 | Well, uncommented. | |
| 04:07 | It should have stayed blissfully commented. | |
| 04:07 | mtompset | Okay... should be there commented out with an explanation. |
| 04:08 | jcamins_away | Right. |
| 04:09 | Or, I suppose, someone could have told it to ignore the subroutine redefinition warnings only. | |
| 04:09 | mtompset | Hey, what timezone are you in? Shouldn't you be sleeping about now, jcamins_away? |
| 04:10 | jcamins_away | EST. |
| 04:10 | Yeah, it's 00:10. | |
| 04:10 | Me2 joined #koha | |
| 04:10 | jcamins | But I finished dinner five minutes ago. |
| 04:23 | mtompset | actually, I can understand why you call it supper, given the time-travelly nature of not-sleeping while crossing daily time boundaries, but perhaps that was breakfast (first meal of the day) too? ;) |
| 04:24 | jcamins | Hehe. |
| 04:24 | mtompset | breakfast, merienda/coffee break, brunch, lunch, merienda/coffee break, dinner, supper, tea, evening snack, midnight snack. :) |
| 04:25 | jcamins | Shouldn't it be a midnight snack? |
| 04:25 | mtompset | it would be a pretty big snack then. ;) |
| 04:25 | jcamins | It would be indeed. |
| 04:25 | A delicious snack, though. | |
| 04:25 | * jcamins | had salad with quinoa-spinach cakes crumbled over it. |
| 04:25 | jcamins | Yum! |
| 04:26 | mtompset | what spinach? |
| 04:26 | jcamins | Just frozen spinach. |
| 04:26 | It's more cost-effective than fresh spinach. | |
| 04:27 | mtompset | http://hostedmedia.reimanpub.c[…]HC1785930D55B.jpg |
| 04:27 | jcamins | Any kind of spinach goes well in quinoa cakes, though, I think. |
| 04:27 | mtompset | Did it look like that? |
| 04:28 | Because that salad looks delicious. | |
| 04:28 | jcamins | I forewent the dried cranberries (don't have any), and since I started with quinoa cakes there were little lumps of quinoa rather than individual grains, but basically, yes. |
| 04:29 | mtompset | "forewent" -- You speak erudite goodly. :P |
| 04:30 | jcamins | :P |
| 04:40 | * jcamins | goes to sleep, having updated a bunch of bugs. |
| 04:41 | jcamins | Anyone who spots a 3.12-targeted bug is more than welcome to mark it as such. |
| 04:41 | The RM Presumptive would find it very helpful. | |
| 04:43 | mtompset | How can you find a 3.12 bug? Is there something newer than master?! |
| 04:44 | @tell later khall Could you check out bug 8175? | |
| 04:44 | huginn | mtompset: Error: I haven't seen later, I'll let you do the telling. |
| 04:44 | mtompset | @tell khall later Could you check out bug 8175? |
| 04:45 | @tell khall Could you check out bug 8175? | |
| 04:45 | I guess I have the wrong syntax. | |
| 04:46 | @later tell khall Could you check out bug 8175? | |
| 04:46 | huginn | mtompset: The operation succeeded. |
| 04:47 | mtompset | There we go. |
| 04:56 | GAH! Another person didn't put signed off in the attachment. And I forgot to read the status. | |
| 05:29 | * mtompset | saunters off for a nice weekend-afternoon nap. |
| 05:34 | druthb joined #koha | |
| 07:05 | cait joined #koha | |
| 07:07 | rangi | hi cait |
| 07:07 | cait | evening rangi |
| 07:08 | sidd joined #koha | |
| 07:08 | sidd | hi, anyone there? am a newbie and need help |
| 07:09 | am not able to see my books in the catalogue search | |
| 07:09 | cait | faq? |
| 07:09 | wahanui | i think faq is found at http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/ |
| 07:09 | cait | sidd: you could start with the faq - it's a question asked often and there is a couple of reasons why that can be |
| 07:10 | sidd | cait: thanks |
| 07:11 | I have been through a few tutorials and followed them to a T but still don't get anything | |
| 07:11 | cait | it's most likely a zebra problem |
| 07:11 | which version of koha did you install and how? | |
| 07:12 | sidd | 3.0.1. downloaded the cd from osslabs |
| 07:13 | sorry 3.01.00.999 | |
| 07:13 | rangi | wow, that's an incredibly old version |
| 07:13 | sidd | um, can I get a new version then? something that I can create a CD of and install? |
| 07:13 | I use fedora most of the time and it is a pain to install it on that | |
| 07:13 | am not so good with suse or ubuntu :( | |
| 07:14 | cait: it never complained of zebra. how do i see the logs? | |
| 07:14 | and in about it says Zebra 2.0.43 - seems to be installed | |
| 07:15 | cait | live cds are difficult |
| 07:15 | but you shouldn't be using that version relaly | |
| 07:15 | sidd | oh, ok |
| 07:15 | cait | it's too old and will give you problems |
| 07:15 | sidd | which is the latest one? I'll install it on fedora 17 (hope it supports that) |
| 07:15 | cait | would it possible for you to do an instalation on debian or ubuntu? it's really very easy for those |
| 07:15 | and welll documented | |
| 07:16 | sidd | uh, ok. I just received a ubuntu DVD. will try it there. |
| 07:16 | cait | the latest is... 3.8.5 |
| 07:16 | sidd | where do i download the latest one from? |
| 07:16 | cait | with ubuntu you can use the packages I think - I have done that in the past to set up a dev environment |
| 07:17 | sidd | cait: thanks, that should be great. i tried evergreen in fedora - did not work. then koha broke my perl :( |
| 07:17 | cait | oh |
| 07:17 | packages? | |
| 07:17 | wahanui | packages is, like, at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian |
| 07:17 | cait | maybe take a look here :) |
| 07:18 | it's pretty straight forward and hopefully shouldn't break anything | |
| 07:18 | rangi | wow, that's odd, you are the first one that has ever happened to :) |
| 07:18 | sidd | rangi: you mean on fedora? |
| 07:18 | cait | sidd: are you running more web applications on that server you are trying to install koha on? |
| 07:18 | rangi | no, first person ever to manage to break perl, installing some perl scripts |
| 07:19 | sidd | rangi :) i allowed it to upgrade/downgrade (don't remember which) some of my perl modules |
| 07:19 | rangi | koha wont do that |
| 07:19 | sidd | cait: it is a dedicated machine i bought for this |
| 07:19 | rangi | you must have been doing somethign with cpan |
| 07:20 | sidd | rangi: not koha per se. I was trying to install what ever it said was missing. In fact, some where I read I will have to have a separate perl installatoin for this (forget what that technique is called) |
| 07:20 | rangi | yeah thats not right |
| 07:21 | the problem is a lot of people have written 'guides' that actually tell people to do quite stupid things | |
| 07:21 | sidd | rangi: I agree with you. |
| 07:21 | rangi | but there's no way to go round the internet taking them down :) |
| 07:22 | sidd | i'll write a good one about my experience so that some day some poor sod may get the right help :P |
| 07:22 | rangi | if you used ubuntu, or debian, with the packages, its very easy to install and update |
| 07:22 | sidd | rangi: cait told me. I am going to format this machine and install ubuntu |
| 07:22 | don't have debian though | |
| 07:23 | thanks guys, I'll be back :) | |
| 07:23 | rangi | ubuntu is ok |
| 07:25 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #194 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 07:26 | * cait | cheers for jenkins |
| 07:39 | drojf | good morning #koha |
| 07:39 | rangi | hi drojf |
| 07:40 | drojf | hi rangi :) |
| 07:42 | wow, i did not see that coming @ livecd manager | |
| 07:43 | rangi | yep, we'll see, it's a lot of work, 2 cd's or so every month |
| 07:46 | drojf | not sure why he's insisting on it being on ubuntu as debian seems to work fine with remastersys and it's not very different systemwise but if he'd be actually keeping up with the releases that would be cool |
| 07:46 | rangi | yeah, even better if its packages based |
| 07:46 | because then people could upgrade easily | |
| 07:47 | otherwise by lowering the barrier to install, but not lowering it for upgrade | |
| 07:47 | drojf | yes i'd like that |
| 07:47 | rangi | = hundreds (if not thousands) of unpatched vulnerable systesm the next time a security bug is found |
| 07:50 | i think i didnt really make that point | |
| 07:54 | drojf | well… if we have a manager type of guy for that, i suppose there will be a bugtracker section for livecds where such concerns can be addressed :) |
| 07:54 | rangi | oh good point |
| 07:56 | cait: https://lwn.net/Articles/518623/rss | |
| 07:56 | cait | hi drojf :) |
| 07:57 | drojf | hi cait :) |
| 07:57 | strange things are happening. 200 million euro for meego and HP seems to be hiring ~50 people for webos | |
| 07:58 | cait | hm |
| 07:58 | drojf | uh. well-patented. ugly |
| 07:59 | rangi | yeah |
| 08:02 | cait | yeah |
| 08:02 | kinda sad. | |
| 08:02 | drojf | rangi: did you see my comment on the xslt icon bug? are you missing a very potent line of css somewhere or did i break it somehow? |
| 08:03 | rangi | hm not sure, ill look on monday :) |
| 08:03 | drojf | ok |
| 08:04 | rangi | bbiab |
| 08:04 | drojf | so, cooking habanero sauce and baking bread or staring at the screen in a lazy fashion? |
| 08:04 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.8.x build #194: SUCCESS in 39 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.8.x/194/ |
| 08:04 | * Paul Poulain: Bug 8379 removing another useless ->disconnect line | |
| 08:04 | * Paul Poulain: Bug 8379 don't close dbh | |
| 08:04 | * veron: Bug 8810 - Opac: Cart should display branchname instead of branchcode | |
| 08:04 | * fridolyn.somers: Bug 8497: Strange behavior when modifying the timeout system preference | |
| 08:04 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8379 critical, P1 - high, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Stable , Encoding problem under Plack |
| 08:04 | jenkins_koha | * veron: Bug 8796 - patron cards not starting on designated card |
| 08:04 | * julian.maurice: Bug 8850: Export CanBookBeReserved in C4::ILSDI::Services | |
| 08:04 | * julian.maurice: Bug 8850: Export CanItemBeReserved in C4::ILSDI::Services | |
| 08:04 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8810 normal, P3, ---, veron, Pushed to Stable , Opac: Cart should display branchname instead of branchcode |
| 08:04 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8497 critical, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , Strange behavior when modifying the 'timeout' system preference. | |
| 08:04 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8796 normal, P5 - low, ---, veron, Pushed to Stable , patron cards not starting on designated card | |
| 08:04 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8850 trivial, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Master , Can't place hold on title with ILS-DI | |
| 08:05 | cait | drojf: cooking |
| 08:05 | and send some here | |
| 08:05 | drojf | :) |
| 08:07 | wow that mango smeels delicious. almost to good to cook it | |
| 08:07 | smells even | |
| 08:11 | cait | yum ;) |
| 08:22 | Oak joined #koha | |
| 09:25 | magnuse | Oak |
| 09:26 | cait | hi magnuse :) |
| 09:26 | go and enjoy your weekend! | |
| 09:26 | magnuse | hiya cait |
| 09:26 | i will - just dropped by | |
| 09:27 | * magnuse | wanders off into the rain to do some shopping |
| 09:27 | cait | :) |
| 09:39 | drojf | i can break the new favicon in the staff client |
| 09:42 | cait | skillful |
| 09:42 | Oak | magnuse |
| 09:42 | cait | |
| 09:43 | cait | Oak |
| 09:43 | Oak | project report was subitted, and gave the viva voce, now it's all done. just waiting for the degree now. |
| 09:43 | you did not ask much about it later though :) | |
| 09:44 | mtompset joined #koha | |
| 09:44 | mtompset | Greetigs, #koha. |
| 09:44 | Oak | to wander off into the rain to do some shopping... that's poetic. |
| 09:44 | greetings mtompset | |
| 09:45 | mtompset | I'll do my shopping in the rain? ;) |
| 09:45 | Sounds like an Everly Brother's song. | |
| 09:47 | drojf | cait: do a syspref search for "opacbrowser". it loads the new icon first and then replaces it with the old. no idea where that comes from |
| 09:47 | Oak | :) |
| 09:55 | mtompset | jquery, drojf? |
| 10:06 | cait | funny |
| 10:09 | mtompset | funny? |
| 10:36 | drojf | perl 101 question |
| 10:36 | foreach my $group ( sort keys %$tab ) { | |
| 10:36 | if ( $group ) { # do stuff } | |
| 10:36 | } | |
| 10:36 | why would i have that if ($group) there? | |
| 10:37 | in foreach my $group, how could there not be ($group)? or is that just weird code? | |
| 10:38 | cait left #koha | |
| 10:41 | drojf | ah, if there's nothing to sort in %$tab maybe? |
| 10:46 | mtompset | No.... there may be a key which is empty. |
| 10:51 | you can have my %hash = ( '' => 'Default', 'key1' => 'Key Value 1', 'key2' => 'Key Value 2' ); | |
| 10:51 | Though, seeing a %$tab means that the hash was probably returned as a hash reference. | |
| 10:56 | drojf | ah i see. thanks mtompset |
| 10:56 | mtompset | keys is a function that would return ( '', 'key1', 'key2' ) in my above example. |
| 10:56 | sort is a function that puts them in order. | |
| 10:57 | And even if it was my %hash = ( '' => 'Default', 'key2' => 'Key Value 2', 'key1' => 'Key Value 1' ); | |
| 10:58 | sorting the keys would still return ( '', 'key1', 'key2' ). | |
| 10:58 | Because hashes don't always list in the same order you add pairs. | |
| 10:58 | This is why people frequently sort them. | |
| 11:01 | drojf | yes i knew about the sorting part, did not think of an empty key though. thanks |
| 11:02 | what if there were no key at all? would it skip the whole foreach? | |
| 11:18 | mtompset | Only if the hash was empty... sorry, got distracted. |
| 11:19 | So my %hash; or my %hash=(); | |
| 11:23 | Hmm... that's an interesting thought. | |
| 11:23 | You're reading admin/preferences.pl? | |
| 11:23 | drojf | yup |
| 11:26 | mtompset | Why? If you are a newbie perl programmer, I wouldn't be reading that for examples. ;) |
| 11:31 | drojf | learning the hard way ;) |
| 11:32 | i tried to look into the mystery of the wrong favicon. without much success | |
| 11:33 | mtompset | Oh, drojf ... wrong favicon? |
| 11:33 | on logout? | |
| 11:33 | on login? | |
| 11:34 | I did a patch related to that. I think. | |
| 11:34 | bug 8737 | |
| 11:34 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8737 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Master , Incorrect icon at login in staff client |
| 11:34 | jcamins_away | drojf: bread? Okay, then. :D |
| 11:36 | drojf | jcamins_away: bread is done, cooking the chili sauce soon (after the jars are boiled off) :) |
| 11:36 | jcamins_away | You're canning chili? |
| 11:37 | drojf | it's basically a mango chutney with habanero that gets puréed at the end |
| 11:38 | mtompset: no the bug i found is not about custom icons but the default ones | |
| 11:38 | jcamins | Ah. |
| 11:38 | Very cannable. | |
| 11:38 | drojf: BibLibre did a patch for that. | |
| 11:38 | But no one could replicate it. | |
| 11:39 | drojf | ah. cool. i know how to repilcate it :) |
| 11:39 | replicate even | |
| 11:39 | guess i should have checked the bug tracker first ;) | |
| 11:40 | jcamins | I'm thinking of making blueberry muffins. |
| 11:41 | mtompset | Is everyone here a librarian, computer geek that cooks/bakes? |
| 11:41 | drojf | jcamins: you should |
| 11:42 | liw | mtompset, some of us are delegated to the role of reading and eating |
| 11:44 | drojf | i think i checked the bug tracker, i can't find it |
| 11:44 | jcamins | drojf: I'm also thinking of making apple bread. |
| 11:44 | I guess I could make both. | |
| 11:44 | Bug 8473 | |
| 11:44 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8473 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, RESOLVED WORKSFORME, Different favicon in the staff client only shows in the english templates |
| 11:47 | drojf | jcamins: why wouldn't you do both? :) |
| 11:47 | jcamins | drojf: storage space. :P |
| 11:47 | drojf | heh |
| 11:47 | my bug is different. it's in the english version | |
| 11:48 | only in parts of the syspref search | |
| 11:50 | there seem to be two methods of displaying the results if the syspref search. either show the whole tab and jump to the syspref you searched for, or show only those sysprefs that match the search. in the former, you get the "old" icon (the one now used only in OPAC) | |
| 11:50 | s/results if/results in/ | |
| 11:51 | but on top of that, this is only true for some of the tabs | |
| 11:51 | jcamins | Ohhh. |
| 11:51 | Yeah, that's something else. | |
| 11:52 | drojf | happens for results from Administration, Authorities, Circulation, Creators, Logs, OPAC, Patrons, Searching, Staff client. not for results from the others. and not if you have more than one search term |
| 11:53 | like, old icon for results of search for 'opacbrowser', but new icon for search for 'opac browser' | |
| 11:54 | * drojf | is off to the kitchen |
| 11:59 | jcamins | The muffin recipe I want to use calls for room temperature butter. :'( |
| 12:00 | mtompset | put the butter out, fix a couple bugs... go back to the butter. |
| 12:03 | drojf | lat myshkin sit on it for a while |
| 12:03 | let | |
| 12:03 | jcamins | lol |
| 12:05 | * mtompset | laughs, "That's funny, drojf." |
| 12:16 | mtompset | The frameworkcode in biblio_framework can't be null, right? |
| 12:16 | well, null or empty? | |
| 12:17 | jcamins | No. |
| 12:17 | That is wrong. | |
| 12:17 | The frameworkcode is _usually_ ''. | |
| 12:20 | mtompset | Yes, the entered one is normally '', what I'm talking about is the biblio_framework table. |
| 12:21 | jcamins | Oh. |
| 12:21 | No, it can still be ''. | |
| 12:21 | pastebot | "mtompset" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Default biblio_framework table..." (14 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/218 |
| 12:21 | jcamins | Hmm. |
| 12:22 | Maybe it can't be ''. | |
| 12:22 | I guess this is why we don't use foreign keys. | |
| 12:23 | Frameworks were just a terrible idea all around so I just ignore them. | |
| 12:23 | mtompset | Yes, but z3950_search.pl compares the frameworkcode from biblio_framework against a parameter frameworkcode. |
| 12:24 | And I'm trying to figure out if I can simply || q{} it. | |
| 12:24 | jcamins | Probably. |
| 12:24 | mtompset | That would depend on how biblio_framework's frameworkcode works. |
| 12:24 | If you can enter a blank one, then it won't work. | |
| 12:25 | jcamins | But I don't know, and as things to think about go, that's so far down on my list that that's my definitive answer. |
| 12:25 | mtompset | because that's a change in logic. |
| 12:25 | '' eq '' vs. undef eq '' | |
| 12:26 | I suppose I'll have to try to enter a blank framework code. | |
| 12:28 | oh that's wrong. | |
| 12:28 | This is why I hate making a test plan... | |
| 12:29 | I keep finding more bugs while figure out a reasonable test plan. | |
| 12:29 | There is a check to prevent empty framework codes. | |
| 12:29 | However, i put a single space. | |
| 12:30 | And then... I put a single space but a different description. | |
| 12:30 | Now my second entry has gone into lala land. | |
| 12:31 | Ah... didn't add it... duplicate primary key error log. | |
| 12:41 | I have an idea on how to fix that, but it is ugly. :( | |
| 12:42 | jcamins | It's a primary key. |
| 12:42 | It can't be duplicated. | |
| 12:42 | Period. | |
| 12:42 | mtompset | Yes, but if we have a check to prevent '', the check should be smart enough to complain about it, before generating an error. |
| 12:43 | jcamins | If that can be done without mangling the database, sure. |
| 12:44 | mtompset | No, the idea would be pass the existing frameworkcodes as a comma delimited list to the template, which would then pass it as a parameter to the javascript check function. |
| 12:45 | But that's not really scalable. | |
| 12:45 | Though, I can't imagine people having thousands of frameworks. | |
| 12:48 | jcamins | mtompset: unless there's already a check for it, someone, somewhere has created a framework with a comma. |
| 12:49 | (in the frameworkcode) | |
| 12:49 | mtompset | Shoot, what's that quote... |
| 12:49 | @quote get 123 | |
| 12:49 | huginn | mtompset: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) |
| 12:51 | drojf | i can use a comma in the framework code? \o/ *runs off with shouts of joy* |
| 12:52 | mtompset | drojf: You can use any valid character in framework code. :P |
| 12:52 | drojf | and i will! |
| 12:52 | jcamins | Traffic is particularly bad this morning. |
| 12:52 | People have just been leaning on their horns. | |
| 12:55 | You know what would be great? A device that allows you to push a button and have A) the horn, and B) all the wheels disappear from any car that is driven by an overly-enthusiastic horn blower. | |
| 12:58 | drojf | lol |
| 13:01 | a friend of mine has been to new york with his wife for their honeymoon like a week ago. he sent me a message about traffic and horn noises and expressed that to be exacly what he has been looking forward to, as kind of a trademark of new york (wasn't his first time there). think of the tourists, they seem to like the noise ;) | |
| 13:01 | jcamins | Fine, it can be loud in Manhattan. |
| 13:01 | drojf | lol |
| 13:14 | mtompset | Nah... a teleporter. |
| 13:15 | jcamins | When your friend comes back to New York in 25 years to celebrate his anniversary, and doesn't like the noise, though, he better know it's all his fault. :P |
| 13:15 | mtompset | You push the button, and the vehicle of your choise is teleported randomly within a 20km radius to some empty road. |
| 13:15 | jcamins | mtompset: ooh, nice! Even better! |
| 13:16 | mtompset | This teleport feature would also occur if you honk more than 10 times in a single minute, or hold the horn down longer than 10 seconds. |
| 13:16 | jcamins | With a special setting for "on a 1-way street going the wrong way." |
| 13:17 | mtompset | It would occur randomly anyways. :) |
| 13:17 | Actually... forget a teleport... that requires new tech... blow the car up. | |
| 13:17 | jcamins | Yeah, but it should *always* happen to people who lean on the horn for 30 seconds at 8am on a weekend. |
| 13:18 | mtompset | If you hold your horn for more than 10 seconds, your car blows up,. |
| 13:18 | (assuming you are conscious) | |
| 13:20 | okay... | |
| 13:20 | I've done a git commit... | |
| 13:20 | how do I attach my patch to a bug using git bz? | |
| 13:20 | jcamins | git-bz attach -e [bugnumber] HEAD |
| 13:21 | mtompset | What's the HEAD for? |
| 13:21 | jcamins | That's the commit you're attaching. |
| 13:23 | * mtompset | is listening to Herman's Hermits. :) |
| 13:29 | mtompset | Seems like the trickle of 3.6.x patches is slowing down. |
| 13:31 | jcamins | Yeah, 3.6.x has pretty much shaken itself out. |
| 13:32 | mtompset | well, some of my patches apply back... but seeing as most of what I've patching are silent error log entries, it's no biggie. |
| 13:33 | I think I did something wrong... | |
| 13:34 | Did it mean the first uncommented line? | |
| 13:34 | jcamins | What first uncommented line? |
| 13:34 | mtompset | when it pops up the file to edit for the git-bz. |
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| 13:35 | mtompset | It looked okay to me, but then it blew up... suggesting I hadn't entered a description. |
| 13:35 | jcamins | No, you just waited too long. |
| 13:36 | You have to save and close the file within 5 seconds. | |
| 13:36 | mtompset | you have to be kidding me, right?! |
| 13:36 | jcamins | No. |
| 13:36 | mtompset | That's dumb! |
| 13:37 | jcamins | It's a limitation in Bugzilla. |
| 13:37 | Don't write a novel in your bz-only comments. | |
| 13:37 | (and, yes it is) | |
| 13:37 | mtompset | But 5 seconds isn't enough to check if it is right. |
| 13:38 | Well, it worked when I just :wq'd right away. | |
| 13:38 | jcamins | What do you mean? |
| 13:38 | If you don't know that your commit message was correct, you shouldn't be uploading the patch to bugzilla. | |
| 13:39 | mtompset | Then why does it even show it?! |
| 13:39 | If it shows it, I want to check it. | |
| 13:39 | jcamins | So you can obsolete old patches. |
| 13:39 | That's what -e is for. | |
| 13:40 | If you don't put in -e, it will just attach. | |
| 13:40 | mtompset | Ah... so if I didn't put -e, it wouldn't show me? |
| 13:40 | jcamins | Right. |
| 13:42 | mtompset | Well, that was nice and quick to put up. |
| 13:51 | Nice only "4" patches/bugs to go. | |
| 13:51 | Though the silent errors in circulation.pl are going to be a bit longer than usual. :( | |
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| 14:30 | drojf | i should have used white balsamic vinegar to have a nicer colour, but apart from that i'm ready to burn a few tongues with that stuff |
| 14:33 | what's a step by step livecd? it does not only need no installation but explains all the koha to you? | |
| 14:37 | jcamins | drojf: I think it means "can you provide some transparency so we know what you did?" |
| 14:38 | drojf | ah, step by step of the livecd creation… i did not read it that way but would make sense |
| 14:41 | jcamins: as i said before, an official livecd manager would certainly look at the livecd section of bugzilla and address concerns. like "please make the installation feature use packages" and stuff :) | |
| 14:42 | jcamins | I think it's a good idea. |
| 14:46 | drojf | oh he really added himself to the wiki |
| 14:47 | hm no mtompset did it. i would have preferred to give him the choice to do that himself… | |
| 14:48 | mtompset | Yes, I added it... I sent an email about that... but it got held up, bcause too many people on it. |
| 14:50 | Well, as is quoted, VKV did offer to take that role. | |
| 14:52 | I sent him a facebook message that I did. | |
| 14:52 | drojf | still it would be nice to have people confirm volunteering for a lot of work. he might feel more pushed than he likes now |
| 14:55 | you are friends on facebook? | |
| 14:58 | mtompset | No. |
| 14:58 | He sent a request, so I know his user name. | |
| 14:59 | drojf | mhh habanero. when just using the knife you cut chili with to slice some bread makes it really spicy |
| 15:00 | jcamins | drojf: was that intentional? |
| 15:01 | drojf | not unintentional. i knew i had not cleaned it yet but i did not expect it to be that much |
| 15:02 | i wonder what else is terribly hot because i touched it and only find out later. when rubbing my eyes… | |
| 15:04 | mtompset | ouch. |
| 15:04 | hate what that happens. | |
| 15:04 | is there some utility to diff mysqldumps? | |
| 15:20 | I'm quitting... memory low... Have a good 24 period. :) | |
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| 16:53 | mib_obnqpp | hello |
| 16:54 | after I have migrated a data.marc into koha | |
| 16:54 | how many ways I can check the data into database? | |
| 16:56 | 2- If i only import only one record, in what position will be added? in the last of the table? or in the first row in the table? | |
| 16:56 | thank you for Ur time | |
| 16:56 | :) | |
| 16:58 | jcamins_away | mib_obnqpp: it's a very quiet time, and I'm not particularly here, but here are some quick answers: |
| 16:59 | 1) you could look directly in the database, follow the direct link from the staged marc screen, or you could wait for Zebra to index, and search for the record using Zebra. | |
| 17:01 | mib_obnqpp | mmm ok if i could look into inventory too? |
| 17:04 | jcamins_away | If that meets your needs, sure. |
| 17:04 | mib_obnqpp | thank for answer, beside Official Website of Koha Library Software the demo 3.8, when I try to login: bywaterbywater |
| 17:04 | Error: Invalid username or password | |
| 17:04 | jcamins_away | 2) records are added at the end of the table, but that knowledge won't help you at all. |
| 17:05 | I'm not sure what you're trying to do, but I think you're doing it the wrong way. | |
| 17:05 | That's ByWater's demo. I don't use it. | |
| 17:05 | mib_obnqpp | ok i understand |
| 17:05 | jcamins_away | I think you're supposed to login with the user "bywater" and password "bywater" |
| 17:06 | mib_obnqpp | yes if u try rightnow there is somethin wrong |
| 17:06 | jcamins_away | That may be. |
| 17:06 | * jcamins_away | does not work for ByWater. |
| 17:06 | mib_obnqpp | yeah |
| 17:07 | i dont know what happend maybe is offline :( | |
| 17:09 | jcamins_away | Could be. |
| 17:09 | mib_obnqpp | ok thank U, by the way |
| 17:11 | how the data is searched into database? | |
| 17:11 | jcamins_away | Koha uses something called Zebra. |
| 17:12 | mib_obnqpp | yeah and then use a variable to store the itembiik and lookup in the table? |
| 17:13 | for example: i search history....... 1) go to zebra look for the word history | |
| 17:15 | 2)retrieval the location of numer of book or something like this and then lookup into the table? | |
| 17:16 | use zebra to data index and then use it to retrieval the location of book? | |
| 17:19 | jcamins_away | Not exactly, no. |
| 17:19 | Zebra returns the record. | |
| 17:19 | What are you trying to do? | |
| 17:20 | mib_obnqpp | Its understand how does it work i have some experience in NoSQL database |
| 17:20 | so zebra upload all the records? :O | |
| 17:20 | jcamins_away | The Zebra indexes store all the records, yes. |
| 17:21 | Are you familiar with MARC? | |
| 17:21 | mib_obnqpp | yes! |
| 17:21 | not only marc | |
| 17:21 | jcamins_away | Okay. |
| 17:21 | Just checking. | |
| 17:22 | In that case, your best bet is to install Koha and play around a bit. :) | |
| 17:22 | mib_obnqpp | yeah that could be the best advice :) |
| 17:22 | thank bro for the information | |
| 17:22 | jcamins_away | Good luck. |
| 17:22 | Stop by if you have specific questions. | |
| 17:23 | mib_obnqpp | mmm ok can you give me a advice? |
| 17:23 | drojf | packages? |
| 17:23 | wahanui | i think packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian |
| 17:23 | drojf | ^^ advice |
| 17:23 | :) | |
| 17:23 | mib_obnqpp | haha ok :) |
| 17:23 | opensuse? | |
| 17:23 | wahanui | hmmm... opensuse is the one which is recommanded in our org |
| 17:23 | jcamins_away | drojf++ # the best advice by far |
| 17:23 | No. | |
| 17:23 | wahanui: forget opensuse | |
| 17:23 | wahanui | jcamins_away: I forgot opensuse |
| 17:23 | jcamins_away | OpenSUSE is not used by many developers, and will likely be difficult to get Koha working with. |
| 17:24 | opensuse? | |
| 17:24 | wahanui | it has been said that opensuse is not used by many developers, and will likely be difficult to get Koha working with. |
| 17:24 | jcamins_away | Debian or Ubuntu is your best bet. |
| 17:24 | drojf | mib_obnqpp: i had it run on opensuse ~2 years ago. it worked back then, but we switched to debian for the packages. they make life SO much easier |
| 17:24 | mib_obnqpp | ok what flavor of linux recommed it? |
| 17:25 | drojf | debian squeeze or ubuntu 12.04 |
| 17:26 | mib_obnqpp | rightnow i am lookup for the package and koha is in the opensuse 12.1 from yast2 |
| 17:26 | drojf | there are no packages for opensuse |
| 17:26 | that's the problem | |
| 17:26 | we don't have rpm packages, because there is nobody who would maintain them | |
| 17:26 | jcamins_away | And I only know of one person who uses Koha on OpenSuSE, so you wouldn't be able to get much help when you run into problems. :( |
| 17:27 | mib_obnqpp | i got it! |
| 17:27 | debian squeeze or ubuntu 12.04 | |
| 17:28 | * drojf | is off to do weekendish non-computery things |
| 17:28 | ketchup | Just my personal opinion here, but OpenSuse is a logical platform to support Koha on. Networking and sysadmin is so much better on OpenSuse than Debian, |
| 17:29 | and there is a supported version, Suse, for those that want that. | |
| 17:29 | And furthermore, Big Bill Windstead at computersupport.com is willing to do all the work | |
| 17:30 | mib_obnqpp | also suse studio is the best to create live cd!! |
| 17:30 | mustard | actually there are some live cd's out there already |
| 17:30 | based on deb I think | |
| 17:31 | http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_LiveCD | |
| 17:31 | mib_obnqpp | ok I try first in debian and then opensuse |
| 17:32 | i will inform in the list koha-deb about my advance in koha | |
| 17:32 | thank to alll | |
| 17:32 | :) | |
| 17:32 | mustard | if you ask and be patient for opensuse help on the mailing list there are people that will try to give some general help probably |
| 17:33 | mib_obnqpp | yes thank you |
| 17:33 | greettings! | |
| 17:33 | bye bye | |
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| 19:58 | cait | hi #koha |
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| 23:13 | * jcamins_away | struggles to resist responding to the troll. |
| 23:16 | mtj | wow, that should be a good one... |
| 23:16 | jcamins_away | I can't do it. |
| 23:16 | I just... | |
| 23:16 | can't. | |
| 23:16 | I know I shouldn't. | |
| 23:16 | mtj | dude, dont even go there :/ |
| 23:17 | * jcamins_away | is going to write the response then delete it. |
| 23:17 | mtj | -> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0177971/ |
| 23:17 | jcamins_away | lol |
| 23:18 | mtj | … just get some pop-corn, bro |
| 23:18 | jcamins_away | lol |
| 23:18 | No, I'll feel better having written a response. | |
| 23:18 | mtj | … with the greatest of respect, of course ;) |
| 23:18 | jcamins_away | I'll be a better person for not having sent it. |
| 23:19 | :) | |
| 23:23 | @later tell mtompset Drop it. There is no point pursuing this conversation. | |
| 23:23 | huginn | jcamins_away: The operation succeeded. |
| 23:25 | mtj | oooh, i just bothered to read to the bottom... |
| 23:29 | …i just had a horrible time upgrading Koha, and everyone involved in Koha contributed to my poor experience :/ | |
| 23:29 | … please try to do better next time, thanks! :) | |
| 23:30 | * jcamins_away | is available for hire. Though it is worth pointing out that my rates for fixing Koha installations performed *against* my recommendations are rather higher than my usual rates. 30 times higher. |
| 23:33 | jcamins_away | A shame that people never take that into consideration when asking for free help. |
| 23:37 | "Gee, this person who makes a living doing this stuff told me for free that I should follow path X, and that if I followed path Y it would cost more than my annual budget to persuade him to fix it... maybe I should do X." | |
| 23:52 | rangi | Hence my patches accepted mail |
| 23:53 | He so far has done nothing but spread fud | |
| 23:53 | And deserves no more of our time than that | |
| 23:55 | * rangi | is out |
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