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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 00:00 | jcamins | Just report a new bug. |
| 00:00 | mtompset | oh wait... the next line is a massive if clause. |
| 00:00 | I'm still waking up. | |
| 00:02 | Is there an easy way to add, let's say 773 fields to every record already in Koha? | |
| 00:04 | jcamins | mtompset: export the records and do it with MarcEdit, or write a script. |
| 00:05 | mtompset | Or add an if check around a piece of analytics code. ;) |
| 00:07 | jcamins | mtompset: no, that's a terrible way to do it. |
| 00:08 | mtompset | jcamins++ # git blame + git show worked nicely. |
| 00:09 | Surely I'm not going to be the only one with no 773 fields. | |
| 00:09 | Is 773 a required field? | |
| 00:09 | jcamins | mtompset: of course not. |
| 00:09 | 773 is entirely unnecessary. | |
| 00:10 | mtompset | Then an if check to see if I even have the field seems like a reasonable patch to me. |
| 00:10 | jcamins | mtompset: checking whether you have the field is one thing. |
| 00:10 | You asked how to *add* the field. | |
| 00:11 | mtompset | Yes, that would be a terrible way to add it. I see where I was confusing. |
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| 01:26 | libsysguy | yo where do I add new deps? |
| 01:28 | rangi | debian/control |
| 01:28 | libsysguy | thanks rangi |
| 01:28 | rangi | and |
| 01:28 | libsysguy | I would have never found that |
| 01:29 | rangi | C4/Installer/PerlDependencies.pm |
| 01:29 | one is for git/tarball installs, the other is for building packages | |
| 01:29 | libsysguy | i see |
| 01:29 | follow up question | |
| 01:30 | if I have a dep that requires more packages | |
| 01:30 | can I just use the original or do I have to list them all | |
| 01:30 | rangi | you could also edit the .packages files in install_misc/ |
| 01:30 | just the original | |
| 01:30 | libsysguy | sweet |
| 01:30 | thanks much | |
| 01:30 | rangi++ | |
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| 01:49 | Waylon | hello all. okay, my code requires 'url' be a key inside the search results hash of opac.... frameworks map 863u to url, yet no url is exposed in the search results, anyone got any ideas why not? |
| 01:59 | hrm... url is found in results in Transform MarcToKoha, but when it gets delivered to searchResults, its no longer in the biblio information. | |
| 02:03 | ahh.. found it as it came into search.pm... wonder why it gets filtered out.. | |
| 02:05 | okay.. nevermind.. it leaves search.pm intact.... | |
| 02:09 | ah... maybe i need to put my url stuff in searchRecords before the XSLT formatting? | |
| 02:09 | since modifying it at opac-search.pl, with XSLT on, is too late? | |
| 02:11 | though..... im editing the "action:" commands.... so.... hmm.. maybe the tempaltes wrong. | |
| 02:15 | .... | |
| 02:15 | * Waylon | facepalms |
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| 03:09 | Waylon | okay.... ive finished my first feature... i have commited it.. now i switch back to master, and then checkout another branch, to create another feature? |
| 03:10 | going from branch to new branch using git checkout -b mandumahstable origin/3.10 doesn't work. | |
| 03:10 | fatal: git checkout: updating paths is incompatible with switching branches. | |
| 03:10 | wahanui | i already had it that way, Waylon. |
| 03:10 | Waylon | ?? |
| 03:10 | fatal? | |
| 03:11 | fatal: git checkout: updating paths? | |
| 03:11 | wahanui | git checkout: updating paths is incompatible with switching branches. |
| 03:11 | Waylon | hmm.. so this has happened before.. |
| 03:12 | ah.. no 3.10 yet | |
| 03:13 | ill just have to port this feature when 3.10 comes out eh? | |
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| 03:42 | Waylon | gah f...... i mistakenly erased a branch using git symbolics |
| 03:42 | git symbolic-ref refs/heads/pdflinks refs/heads/mdm_bug1 | |
| 03:43 | goodbye pdflinks branch | |
| 03:44 | ah.. its still there... | |
| 03:44 | .... i need to cherrypick the commit to get it back? | |
| 03:57 | whew | |
| 03:57 | yes, that worked. | |
| 04:00 | hrm... get_template_and_user still points to template_name *.tmpl ...... thought we now have tt? | |
| 04:01 | mtompset | Don't ask... but hidden deep in the maze of code, it gets remapped. |
| 04:01 | Waylon | waaaa! |
| 04:01 | basically, a change that was made, in order to not change all the pl files eh? | |
| 04:01 | * mtompset | shrugs. |
| 04:01 | mtompset | I didn't do it. |
| 04:01 | I know nothing. | |
| 04:02 | I just know I fear reading the depths of code. | |
| 04:02 | rangi | its not even deep, melodrama :) |
| 04:03 | mtompset | It's not complete melodrama. Some of the code is a nightmare to read in Auth.pm |
| 04:03 | I was just looking at a bug we hit in 3.6.3 and the fix is in 3.6.x, 3.8.x, and master, but the solution is UGLY! | |
| 04:04 | cond ? blah=1: blah=0.... why not: blah = (cond?1:0)?! | |
| 04:05 | rangi | seriously, you are worried about that? |
| 04:05 | when we have actual bugs to fix? | |
| 04:05 | mtompset | No... it just looks ugly. |
| 04:05 | I'm on to the next one to check. | |
| 04:05 | Waylon | haha |
| 04:05 | * rangi | wanders off |
| 04:10 | * mtompset | wonders how it could say the subroutine is undefined when it is right there where it says it isn't. |
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| 04:49 | wajasu | i just added an option to koha_perl_deps.pl -gencpanfile so one can generate a cpanfile for cpanm/carton. i wonder if i should add it as an enhancement. |
| 04:49 | just a baby step for devs. | |
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| 05:02 | mtompset | did you do it off the version with -b and -r added? ;) |
| 05:02 | wajasu | yup |
| 05:03 | mtompset | That would be a useful enhancement. |
| 05:03 | wajasu | -g|gencpanfile |
| 05:04 | it would let folks play with cpanm and carton without a hassle, to see if its going to deliver. | |
| 05:04 | to see if ots going to cpan out ;) | |
| 05:05 | i'm testing bug 8798 right now | |
| 05:05 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8798 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, elliott, Needs Signoff , Add the use of DBIx::Class |
| 05:06 | wajasu | i just validated that he added the debian/control and the C4/Installer/PerlDependencies |
| 05:06 | time to apt-get and run koha_perl_deps | |
| 05:07 | mtompset | did you check out debian/list-deps? |
| 05:07 | I mean look at... | |
| 05:07 | wajasu | let me see |
| 05:07 | mtompset | I may have logic similar to what you added to koha_perl_deps.pl |
| 05:07 | wajasu | control |
| 05:08 | mtompset | no... list-deps |
| 05:08 | it's a program | |
| 05:08 | it reads PerlDependencies.pm | |
| 05:08 | and generates a list of libraries to apt-get. | |
| 05:09 | wajasu | i can run that just to see? |
| 05:11 | mtompset | It doesn't write any files, as far as I can tell. |
| 05:11 | Also, there is a release-tools repository. | |
| 05:11 | wajasu | it depsends on apt-file which i did not have in my VM. |
| 05:11 | mtompset | How do you map the perl library filename to perl library name with apt-file? |
| 05:12 | in the release-tools repository, there is a script I wrote: check_dep.sh | |
| 05:12 | Similar logic, but it generates output files if you tell it to. | |
| 05:12 | wajasu | where is the release-tools repo? |
| 05:13 | mtompset | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]dd296631a;hb=HEAD |
| 05:14 | I have a slightly newer version somewhere, but it isn't much improved from that. | |
| 05:14 | wajasu | cool |
| 05:14 | mtompset | Because my parameters always require = in this version. |
| 05:14 | wajasu | does yours behave better than the koha_perl_deps.pl ? |
| 05:15 | mtompset | It uses koha_perl_deps.pl to grab the library names. |
| 05:15 | (ugly logic) | |
| 05:15 | I could clean that up, since I got -b and -r added to koha_perl_deps.pl | |
| 05:16 | The .all file is what you would use for a apt-get install. | |
| 05:16 | wajasu | carton cpanfile lets you specify : requires 'Test::More', '>=1.3', '<2.1' |
| 05:25 | pastebot | "wajasu" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "koha_perl_deps.pl -a --gencpanfile >cpanfile" (225 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/191 |
| 05:26 | Waylon | 2 features down, many to go. woot! |
| 05:33 | wajasu | i'm glad i'm testing this typo: libdbic... instead of libdbix... |
| 05:43 | mtompset | wajasu: your -g doesn't push anything to @pm. |
| 05:43 | wajasu | put -a before it |
| 05:44 | its experimental. | |
| 05:44 | i wanted to see if i could gen a cpanfile just for missing and ungrades. | |
| 05:44 | -a is all | |
| 05:44 | mtompset | Change the three push lines to have || $gencpanfile |
| 05:44 | wahanui | mtompset: that doesn't look right |
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| 05:44 | wajasu | -a -g >cpanfile |
| 05:45 | let me look | |
| 05:45 | mtompset | Or $all = $all || $gencpanfile; above the pushes. |
| 05:47 | Or perhaps, don't make gencpanfile required, and then fix the logic in the for loop. | |
| 05:47 | wajasu | i left all the code the same. i only added an alternate output format. |
| 05:47 | mtompset | But what if you want to only generated the cpan file for REQUIRED? |
| 05:48 | (not just all) | |
| 05:49 | wajasu | thats in the for loop ( only print for required ) |
| 05:53 | koha_perl_deps.pl -a --gencpanfile >cpanfile should give the required. | |
| 05:55 | once you have a cpanfile, you can run carton check, and it reports missing deps. do carton install ... | |
| 05:57 | i only just coded this 10 minutes ago to test the idea | |
| 06:02 | mtompset | not bad for a 10 minute hack. :) |
| 06:02 | wajasu | :) |
| 06:03 | I'm testing too | |
| 06:04 | it needs another module bummer. DBIx::Class::Exception | |
| 06:10 | it needs another module bummer. DBIx::Class::Exception::blessed | |
| 06:11 | Undefined subroutine &DBIx::Class::Exception::blessed called at /usr/share/perl5/DBIx/Class/Exception.pm line 55 | |
| 06:15 | alex_a1 | bonjour |
| 06:15 | wajasu | hi |
| 06:15 | wahanui | hola, wajasu |
| 06:19 | drojf | good morning #koha |
| 06:19 | @wunder berlin, germany | |
| 06:19 | huginn | drojf: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is 9.4°C (8:13 AM CEST on September 21, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady). |
| 06:19 | drojf | brr |
| 06:29 | mtompset | if i wanted to test zebra at the command line, how would I do that? |
| 06:29 | I mean z39.50 | |
| 06:31 | drojf | mtompset: vague recollection of a drojf not fully awake: read something about using yaz-client? |
| 06:32 | wajasu | man yaz-client there are simple examples in the man page |
| 06:36 | * magnuse | waves |
| 06:37 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
| 06:37 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 7.0°C (8:20 AM CEST on September 21, 2012). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Rising). |
| 06:38 | * cait | waves |
| 06:40 | drojf | good morning magnuse and cait |
| 06:40 | cait | :) |
| 06:41 | * cait | will spend another friday on a train |
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| 06:41 | reiveune | hello |
| 06:43 | drojf | cait: miss the bad internet connection? :) |
| 06:43 | cait | oh yeah |
| 06:43 | can't get anything done without it :) | |
| 06:44 | drojf | heh |
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| 07:00 | * mtompset | laughs. |
| 07:00 | mtompset | you would think that would be the other way around, cait. |
| 07:01 | BTW, do I really have to patch up a missing file that needs to be copied from the opac directories over to the intranet ones? *sigh* | |
| 07:01 | cait | if it's missing...? |
| 07:01 | mtompset | Yes, completely missing. |
| 07:01 | comment.png | |
| 07:02 | referenced in suggestion.tt | |
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| 07:02 | cait | hm |
| 07:03 | not sure, but is it possible that the file is in th esprite oleonard created? | |
| 07:03 | mtompset | It would be so much easier to just softlink the famfamfam/silk directory, and then anything that is missing on the intranet side would be fixed. |
| 07:08 | cait | ok have to catch my bus |
| 07:08 | bye all | |
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| 07:12 | mtompset | wajasu: You still here? |
| 07:12 | Didn't think so. :) | |
| 07:16 | figured out the yaz-client enough to tesT: | |
| 07:32 | drojf | there is a koha-request mailing list? |
| 07:32 | koha-requests even | |
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| 07:46 | gaetan_B | hello |
| 07:54 | mtompset | Greetings, gaetan_B |
| 07:57 | So how do I know our koha server's z39.50 information? | |
| 07:58 | drojf | from koha-conf.xml i guess? |
| 07:59 | magnuse | yup |
| 08:00 | the settings are in there | |
| 08:00 | well, the port is the one interesting piece of info, i guess | |
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| 08:09 | * cait | waves |
| 08:09 | magnuse | \o/ |
| 08:09 | on the train? | |
| 08:11 | mtompset | Okay, I uncommented the three sections. |
| 08:11 | changed the __blah blah__ to 9998. | |
| 08:11 | how do I restart zebra under a packages install? | |
| 08:12 | drojf | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]oha-restart-zebra |
| 08:13 | cait | yep |
| 08:13 | it'a nice train even | |
| 08:15 | mtompset | found that... but I've busted it good. |
| 08:16 | okay, there we go. Restarted. | |
| 08:23 | drojf | trainternet-- ;) |
| 08:24 | mtompset | okay, now I get failure messages, which is better than connection refused. |
| 08:26 | magnuse | mtompset: yay! |
| 08:26 | mtompset | oh, there's another commented area! |
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| 08:29 | cait | ... |
| 08:29 | internet_on_trains-- | |
| 08:31 | morning paul_p | |
| 08:31 | paul_p | good morning cait |
| 08:31 | cait = remember 6 years ago. Was here internet on trains at all ? ;-) | |
| 08:32 | cait | i am not sure, using umts |
| 08:32 | not sure how long that is available now | |
| 08:34 | drojf | good morning paul_p |
| 08:34 | wb cait. how is the trainternet? :P | |
| 08:34 | cait | wobbly |
| 08:34 | ;) | |
| 08:34 | and hi drojf | |
| 08:39 | mtompset | Does that mean your productivity will improve? ;) |
| 08:43 | Okay... I can yaz out, but z39.50 searches still fail. | |
| 08:43 | Any ideas? | |
| 08:43 | wahanui | Any ideas are welcome :) |
| 08:45 | magnuse | mtompset: any error messages? |
| 08:46 | mtompset | some packet somewhere is getting blocked. |
| 08:50 | magnuse | firewall blocking port 9998? |
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| 08:59 | * mtompset | grumbles, "Likely reverse proxy setup issue." |
| 09:01 | mtompset | But I was able to yaz-client to a partner organization in Australia. Nice. :) |
| 09:01 | On a CentOS 5.8 box, nonetheless. :) | |
| 09:01 | drojf | choo-choo cait |
| 09:01 | mtompset | cait? |
| 09:01 | wahanui | That's Ms. Cait to you! or in a very good mood today :) or a librarian, you will get wahanui's information or a hero or signing off on wahanui's patch :) or confused, that's why i am asking, and we shout write it down somewhere |
| 09:02 | mtompset | kf? |
| 09:02 | wahanui | i heard kf was cait or really, really sweet. or <reply>she gives me memory loss or a holds expert. |
| 09:02 | mtompset | I think you should revise wahanui's information on cait, cait. :) |
| 09:03 | drojf | bugzilla switching to the next bug after you change the status or add a comment still gets me near heart attacks. like "OMG why did i edit the wrong bug?!!?" |
| 09:04 | * mtompset | nods, "Me too, drojf." |
| 09:08 | magnuse | hm, i think there is a setting for that mtompset and drojf? |
| 09:09 | drojf | oh really? that would be great |
| 09:09 | magnuse | Bugzilla > Preferences > General Preferences > After changing a bug |
| 09:09 | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]la3/userprefs.cgi | |
| 09:09 | drojf | found it |
| 09:10 | magnuse++ | |
| 09:10 | less grey hair for me :D | |
| 09:10 | magnuse | yay! |
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| 09:19 | * cait-m | waves |
| 09:19 | magnuse | \o/ |
| 09:21 | mtompset | Hi, cait-m. :) |
| 09:22 | * mtompset | waves back. |
| 09:23 | mtompset | magnuse++ # yay, I can reduce my worries. |
| 09:23 | magnuse | w00t |
| 10:19 | mtompset | Does anyone have a nice perl equivalent to: sudo xmlstarlet sel -t -v 'yazgfs/config/install_log' $KOHA_CONF |
| 10:24 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #853 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 10:28 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5335 follow-up DBRev number <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]3d9ea9df8da6ea61a> / Bug 5335 - More granular VAT <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]0a31518cc6f0c0075> |
| 10:35 | mtompset | Anyone have any good links to security issues related to z39.50? |
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| 10:43 | cait | another train... |
| 10:56 | mtompset | I just don't get it. |
| 10:56 | I can yaz out, and yaz locally, but I can't do a z39.50 search?! | |
| 10:58 | drojf | what do you mean? you can connect to your server but not search? or not connect at all? |
| 11:06 | mtompset | Ah! All the default Z39.50 clients don't work! |
| 11:06 | The one I could taz to, did work. | |
| 11:06 | yaz. | |
| 11:07 | AH! Because the ports are blocked. | |
| 11:07 | They aren't the standard 9998. | |
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| 11:11 | gtf21 | hello all |
| 11:12 | I wonder if someone could help me, I am getting errors with the apt repository for squeeze/main | |
| 11:12 | (yes I copy-and-pasted from the wiki, and then made sure there were no typos) | |
| 11:12 | apt-get update throws me the following error: | |
| 11:12 | jcamins_away | gtf21: what errors are you seeing? |
| 11:12 | gtf21 | W: Failed to fetch http://debian.koha-community.o[…]s/squeeze/Release Unable to find expected entry main/binary-armel/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?) |
| 11:13 | jcamins_away | gtf21: are you installing on a raspberry pi? |
| 11:13 | gtf21 | No, a SheevaPlug |
| 11:13 | jcamins_away | I was close. :) |
| 11:13 | gtf21 | yep |
| 11:13 | I guess the armel gives it away | |
| 11:13 | jcamins_away | Yeah. |
| 11:14 | gtf21 | I mean I could just make install from source I suppose, but having apt-get upgrade would be nice. |
| 11:14 | jcamins | We don't have armel architecture, so you have to do a workaround. |
| 11:14 | I'm finding the workaround now. | |
| 11:14 | gtf21 | Ahh |
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| 11:14 | jcamins | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]e_Koha_repository |
| 11:14 | gtf21 | using i386? |
| 11:14 | weird | |
| 11:15 | jcamins | Notice the "dists/squeeze/main/binary-i386/" |
| 11:15 | Well, it's all Perl. | |
| 11:15 | I'll fix the typo on that page. | |
| 11:15 | Hmmm... there are a couple of other packages that may be binary. | |
| 11:15 | I'll check. | |
| 11:16 | gtf21 | I suppose it is |
| 11:16 | thanks | |
| 11:16 | this is for Koha 3.8 right? | |
| 11:16 | jcamins | Nope, all Perl. |
| 11:16 | Yup. :) | |
| 11:16 | gtf21 | is liblime Koha different from this? |
| 11:16 | because their website lists 4.10 | |
| 11:16 | as the latest | |
| 11:16 | which is confusing | |
| 11:16 | jcamins | Very different. |
| 11:17 | gtf21 | Ahh. What is the difference? They are based on the same source no? |
| 11:17 | jcamins | LibLime forked Koha 3.1 and made a closed-source system which they called "LibLime Koha." |
| 11:18 | They open source old versions of their code- right now they're actually up to 5.0. | |
| 11:18 | I think. | |
| 11:18 | gtf21 | oh right. But both are suitable for personal library management? |
| 11:18 | my household has a few thousand books | |
| 11:19 | probably only 1k actually | |
| 11:19 | jcamins | If you use LibLime Koha, you are entirely on your own. |
| 11:19 | gtf21 | I'll use Koha Koha |
| 11:19 | the open source one | |
| 11:19 | jcamins | :) |
| 11:19 | gtf21 | I prefer open source |
| 11:19 | it means I break it | |
| 11:19 | *i can break it | |
| 11:21 | thanks for your help | |
| 11:21 | jcamins | Yup. And drojf can advise you. |
| 11:21 | You're welcome. | |
| 11:22 | (drojf is the one who installed Koha on a raspberry pi) | |
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| 11:30 | Irma | wishes Nate a "Happy Birthday" :-) |
| 11:31 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #853: SUCCESS in 1 hr 7 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/853/ |
| 11:31 | * jonathan.druart: Bug 5335 - More granular VAT | |
| 11:31 | * Paul Poulain: Bug 5335 follow-up DBRev number | |
| 11:31 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5335 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , More granular VAT |
| 11:50 | drojf | oh, more tiny koha, cool! :) |
| 11:52 | mtompset | Woo hoo! I found a mega long perl equivalent to xmlstarlet! |
| 11:52 | For the record: sudo perl -e "use Data::Dumper; use XML::LibXML; my \$parse = XML::LibXML->new();my \$xmldoc = \$parse->parse_file(\"$KOHA_CONF\");for my \$sample (\$xmldoc->findnodes('yazgfs/config/install_log')) { print \$sample->nodeName(),\": \",\$sample->textContent(),\"\n\"; }" | |
| 11:53 | The DataDumper is a piece I need to cut out. It was there as I was testing. | |
| 11:54 | Now why would I be doing this? | |
| 11:54 | bug 459 caught my eye. | |
| 11:54 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]ow_bug.cgi?id=459 enhancement, P4, ---, mjr, NEW , No uninstall script |
| 12:04 | paul_p | QAing bug 8523 now ... |
| 12:04 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8523 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Signed Off , Authority hierarchies only support UNIMARC |
| 12:05 | paul_p | (and checking everything is OK for UNIMARC) |
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| 12:18 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
| 12:20 | * magnuse | waves to Irma and oleonard and cait |
| 12:20 | * cait | waves back to all |
| 12:21 | holds on to #koha | |
| 12:21 | needs more duct tape | |
| 12:24 | * magnuse | hands cait some duct tape |
| 12:24 | cait | thank you :) |
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| 12:26 | oleonard | Who's got permission to do comment-spam cleaning on the web site? |
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| 12:40 | mtompset | greetings, tcohen. |
| 12:40 | tcohen | hi mtompset |
| 12:44 | magnuse | oleonard: nengard and wizzyrea, at the very least? |
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| 13:03 | magnuse | o/ |
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| 13:09 | jcamins | Good morning, #koha. |
| 13:09 | Again. | |
| 13:10 | libsysguy | again? |
| 13:11 | jcamins | Yes, unlike _some_ people, I was around two hours ago. :P |
| 13:11 | oleonard | it's happened again. morning. |
| 13:13 | jcamins | Silly morning. |
| 13:14 | libsysguy | dude some of us are in a different time zone :p |
| 13:14 | you know, the one with low housing costs and a lot of red states :'( | |
| 13:14 | oleonard | You intolerant timezonist. |
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| 13:17 | gtf21 | hi all, I cannot get my koha intranet to connect (running on debian squeeze, sheeva plug) |
| 13:17 | the :80 virtual host loads fine | |
| 13:18 | jcamins | libsysguy: 6:17 is perfectly reasonable. |
| 13:18 | gtf21 | (but gives me a maintenance page) |
| 13:18 | but the :8080 I cannot connect on | |
| 13:18 | jcamins | gtf21: you installed from packages, right? |
| 13:18 | gtf21 | (tried changing to :81 but it still doesn't work) |
| 13:18 | yes | |
| 13:18 | jcamins | gtf21: most likely, you need to add a Listen 8080 line to /etc/apache2/ports.conf. |
| 13:18 | gtf21 | jcamins, yes |
| 13:18 | ah | |
| 13:18 | jcamins | The packages default to using virtual hosts. |
| 13:19 | gtf21 | #fail... I've done this before and I didn't even think of it this time |
| 13:19 | jcamins | You can modify that default with /etc/koha/sites.conf. |
| 13:19 | (now that you've created an instance, though, you would need to modify the Apache config file) | |
| 13:19 | gtf21 | thanks... |
| 13:20 | that was pretty stupid | |
| 13:20 | libsysguy | jcamins maybe for old people |
| 13:20 | some of us just gout out of college | |
| 13:20 | you're lucky bag makes me get up at 8 fro work :p | |
| 13:20 | oleonard | That cruel taskmaster. |
| 13:21 | jcamins | libsysguy: when I was in college I got up between 5 and 6 every morning. |
| 13:21 | libsysguy | you're a monster |
| 13:21 | jcamins | And no, there were no sports involved. |
| 13:22 | * oleonard | is astonished to hear kids these days talk about only taking classes after 12 and never on Friday |
| 13:22 | shakes his cane menacingly | |
| 13:22 | libsysguy | GET OFF MY LAWN |
| 13:22 | magnuse | tsk, kids these days |
| 13:33 | * oleonard | hopes that means gtf21 was successful |
| 13:34 | drojf | heh i missed him again |
| 13:34 | or her | |
| 13:34 | i hope we get some feedback about koha on a sheeva plug | |
| 13:35 | oleonard | What is a sheeva plug? |
| 13:35 | jcamins | It's an embedded system in a wall wort. |
| 13:36 | magnuse | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SheevaPlug |
| 13:36 | oleonard | Thanks jcamins that explains everything :P |
| 13:36 | jcamins | My pleasure. |
| 13:36 | magnuse | similar to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tonido#TonidoPlug perhaps? |
| 13:38 | jcamins | magnuse: only more general-purpose. |
| 13:39 | * mtompset | cackles. |
| 13:39 | mtompset | I have the first attempt at an uninstall script! |
| 13:40 | magnuse | yay! |
| 13:40 | mtompset | I hope it isn't ubuntu-ist. |
| 13:40 | I think I made it debian-friendly. | |
| 13:40 | seeing as I have yet to see a "sudo service apache2 restart" for debian instructions. | |
| 13:41 | so I went with the ugly /etc/init.d/apache2 restart call. | |
| 13:41 | Oh yuck. Now I have to test it. | |
| 13:41 | Someone want to do that for me? | |
| 13:42 | asaurat | does someone know where the variable "dateformat_metric", used in several templates, is supposed to be found ? I see it in TT files but nowhere else -_- |
| 13:42 | magnuse | mtompset: lol |
| 13:43 | mtompset | asaurat: I would get it has something to do with KohaDates? at the top. |
| 13:43 | ^get^guess^ | |
| 13:43 | oleonard | asaurat: I see it in Auth.pm |
| 13:43 | mtompset | guidelines? |
| 13:43 | coding guidelines? | |
| 13:43 | wahanui | coding guidelines are http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Coding_Guidelines |
| 13:43 | jcamins | mtompset: service apache2 restart works. |
| 13:43 | asaurat | in Auth.pm ? why didn't my grep find that ? arf... thx I check that |
| 13:43 | jcamins | So do apache2ctl restart. |
| 13:44 | mtompset | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]#Displaying_dates |
| 13:44 | apache2ctl restart? | |
| 13:44 | Is that like even lower level cross-platform? | |
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| 13:46 | jcamins | mtompset: no, mostly just convenient, I think. |
| 13:46 | mtompset | do you need to sudo it? |
| 13:47 | Yes, yes you do. | |
| 13:48 | jcamins | Of course. It's a command for managing the server. |
| 13:48 | I meant "so does" early, not "so do." | |
| 13:48 | * jcamins | doesn't care which variant you use. |
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| 13:51 | mtompset | if you run apt-get remove koha-common does that delete the user? |
| 13:51 | jcamins | mtompset: I am not sure. |
| 13:51 | I would think not, though. | |
| 13:52 | In fact, if it does, that's a bug. | |
| 13:52 | koha-remove is for removing instances. | |
| 13:57 | magnuse | but this was apt-get remove? |
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| 13:58 | gtf21 | so koha is pretty slow on my sheevaplug (1.2ghz, 512mb DDR2) which is annoying |
| 13:58 | (and it shouldn't be _that_ slow) | |
| 13:58 | I installed from squeeze/main | |
| 13:58 | jcamins | magnuse: right. Removing the packages should not remove your data. |
| 13:58 | gtf21 | so 3.8 |
| 13:58 | jcamins | gtf21: did you see the suggestion to use Plack? |
| 13:58 | gtf21 | if I install from dev |
| 13:58 | yes, this is my question | |
| 13:59 | if I change my sources.list to have squeeze-dev | |
| 13:59 | jcamins | Don't do that. |
| 13:59 | If you are planning on doing development, go all the way and use git. | |
| 13:59 | magnuse | jcamins: good plan :-) |
| 13:59 | jcamins | If you are not planning on doing development, you can use 3.8 with Plack. |
| 13:59 | gtf21 | ah I see |
| 13:59 | this is sort of what I was asking | |
| 13:59 | jcamins | Plack? |
| 13:59 | wahanui | Plack is a FastCGI thingy that works with Koha. See http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Plack for more information. |
| 14:00 | * jcamins | wrote that, clearly. |
| 14:00 | mtompset | 512MB?! |
| 14:00 | * jcamins | will let you finish your question now. |
| 14:00 | mtompset | OH LORD! |
| 14:01 | * mtompset | cringes in fear over his Zebra nightmares. |
| 14:01 | jcamins | mtompset: I've run Koha with 512MB/RAM. |
| 14:01 | mtompset: and drojf is using 256, I think. | |
| 14:01 | mtompset | did you have swap? |
| 14:01 | jcamins | I did. |
| 14:02 | mtompset | I didn't. Fear me! :) |
| 14:02 | jcamins | Zebra requires minimal resources, though. |
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| 14:03 | mtompset | Not during a full reindex. |
| 14:04 | -- side question... If anyone has packages does their 'koha-list -h' work? | |
| 14:04 | jcamins | mtompset: no. |
| 14:08 | gtf21 | Koha really should not require more than 512MB of RAM to be honest. I mean database reindexing is quite intensive but surely its day to day operations are essentially as a database frontend |
| 14:09 | and thanks, jcamins, again | |
| 14:09 | I'll look into Plack | |
| 14:10 | drojf | gtf21: it should run quite ok with plack |
| 14:10 | magnuse | gtf21: this page might have some more tricks: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Performance |
| 14:10 | * magnuse | wanders off |
| 14:10 | drojf | gtf21: would be cool if you let us know how it goes with the sheeva plug |
| 14:12 | jcamins | gtf21: the problem is Apache, really. |
| 14:13 | Each Apache process uses ~50MB/RAM, of which more than half is not shared. | |
| 14:13 | (at least, that's my recollection from when I was trying to figure out why Koha was taking up so much RAM) | |
| 14:13 | gtf21 | I'll let you know how it goes |
| 14:15 | drojf | gtf21: how many items are supposed to go in your db? |
| 14:15 | gtf21 | probably around 1000 books |
| 14:15 | it's just for my family's personal book collection | |
| 14:16 | drojf | that should not be a problem |
| 14:16 | gtf21 | so to reiterate, 3.8 with Plack (done by following http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Plack) should be fine, right? |
| 14:17 | jcamins | drojf: those are the instructions you followed, right? |
| 14:18 | drojf | ys i think so. i tried to avoid cpan, used sh-make-perl a lot but i needed to build some more packages than in the wiki |
| 14:20 | oh and you don't want to use the profiler:nytprof thing, its for debugging and makes everything horribly slow | |
| 14:21 | gtf21 | will it be ok to use cpan? I am really not familiar with perl |
| 14:22 | drojf | you would usually want to avoid it. if you use the method with dh-make-perl you get packages that you can remove easily if something goes wrong |
| 14:23 | i actually used "sudo dh-make-perl --build --cpan modulename" instead of --install because install gave me errors. you can use --build and then just use dpkg to install it | |
| 14:24 | jcamins | Huh. |
| 14:24 | gtf21 | what is wrong with using dh-make-perl <cmd> --cpan? As in, why is cpan bad? |
| 14:24 | jcamins | I didn't know you could do it in one step like that. |
| 14:25 | gtf21: that's the non-CPAN version. | |
| 14:25 | drojf | gtf21: that is fine |
| 14:25 | jcamins | Installing from CPAN is bad because it results in files that are not controlled by the package management system, so if you run into problems, it's difficult to remove things. |
| 14:26 | gtf21 | ok now I am really confused (apologies). If I use the commands as written in the wiki, which are, for example "sudo dh-make-perl --install --cpan CGI::Compile" that is the "good" way or the "bad" way |
| 14:26 | ? | |
| 14:26 | drojf | good |
| 14:26 | jcamins | That's the good way. |
| 14:26 | gtf21 | ok |
| 14:26 | drojf | sorry for the confusion |
| 14:26 | gtf21 | surely adding --cpan will use the cpan version? |
| 14:26 | jcamins | The bad way looks like "cpan CGI::Compile" |
| 14:27 | gtf21 | ahh |
| 14:27 | drojf | i use a git installation btw, not 3.8. is plack in 3.8 already? |
| 14:27 | gtf21 | I see |
| 14:27 | jcamins | gtf21: nope, that's downloading the file off of CPAN, and then creating a package. |
| 14:27 | gtf21 | ok I understand what you mean now |
| 14:27 | by "using" CPAN | |
| 14:27 | jcamins | drojf: it's believed to work, yes. |
| 14:27 | drojf | it's slightly confusing to track plack stuff in bugzilla |
| 14:29 | jcamins | Ew. Ew. Ew. Red rot. |
| 14:29 | Why am I always wearing black when I encounter books with redrot? | |
| 14:30 | oleonard | Because you're dark moody artist who's always wearing black? |
| 14:30 | drojf | lol |
| 14:32 | hm. misplaced my spare microsd-card. no trying the new "turbo" release for the raspberry pi then | |
| 14:32 | * jcamins | adjusts his beret. |
| 14:32 | drojf | found a norwegian sim card instead |
| 14:33 | oleonard | jcamins: When you're handling these things does that mean you're on site at a job? |
| 14:33 | jcamins | oleonard: yes. |
| 14:33 | oleonard | Cool. |
| 14:33 | O, the libraries you've seen! | |
| 14:34 | jcamins | These past few weeks have been spent mostly authorizing names. |
| 14:35 | drojf | i assume that is a work of outmost joy for you |
| 14:36 | jcamins | drojf: well, there are days when I wish these books said "by John Smith, born in 1853." |
| 14:37 | drojf | but then they start to speak old church slavonic and the fun begins |
| 14:38 | jcamins | drojf: on the good days, yeah. |
| 14:38 | :) | |
| 14:39 | gtf21 | I cannot for the life of me get the cpan configuration to be permanent. Every time I use dh-make-perl I have to go through the "Sorry, we have to rerun the configuration dialog for CPAN.pm due to some missing parameters" |
| 14:40 | I tried cpan > o conf init | |
| 14:40 | and cpan > o conf commit | |
| 14:40 | but no such luck | |
| 14:40 | ah | |
| 14:40 | maybe it's a root thing | |
| 14:40 | jcamins | gtf21: did you use sudo before running the conf init? |
| 14:42 | gtf21 | just thought of that (hence previous message). just going through and checking |
| 14:42 | jcamins | gtf21: yeah, I started typing before you said the same thing. |
| 14:43 | gtf21 | I should probably think before typing |
| 14:43 | then I wouldn't have asked | |
| 14:44 | * wajasu | wonders if http://www.fxitech.com/ is a viable koha platform (just plug it in to a tv screen, and usb drive) |
| 14:46 | jcamins | wajasu: that looks similar to a SheevaPlug, only with more RAM? |
| 14:47 | tcohen | can anyone point me to the code that actually uses the calendar in the circulation scripts? |
| 14:47 | jcamins | tcohen: libsysguy would know, but he just left. |
| 14:47 | wajasu | hdmi on one end, wifi chip, tine mem card, usbplug for power and storage its ARM |
| 14:47 | tcohen | i've read the whole code and found that the only date comes from the HTML |
| 14:48 | and it just checks CanBookBeIssued and then AddIssue | |
| 14:48 | mtompset | Okay... I'm going to attach my untested script up to bug 459 anyways. |
| 14:48 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]ow_bug.cgi?id=459 enhancement, P4, ---, mjr, NEW , No uninstall script |
| 14:49 | tcohen | oleonard, do u know if the due date is calculated in the templates somehow? |
| 14:49 | oleonard | It is not |
| 14:49 | tcohen | thanks |
| 14:49 | drojf | uninstall script for koha, eh? nice try, ex libris |
| 14:49 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_8523' <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]881f4ffcc9e9d597f> / Bug 8523 follow-up OPAC styles for ccsr theme <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]9f4cb83ac1f9ba39d> / Bug 8523 follow-up fixing perlcritic <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]diff;h=af96a8ead3 |
| 14:53 | drojf | somebody should go and buy chocolate |
| 14:53 | jcamins | drojf: chocolate? |
| 14:53 | wahanui | reiveune ate them all |
| 14:54 | mtompset | ex libris? |
| 14:54 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #854 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 14:54 | drojf | jcamins: yes please :) |
| 14:54 | oleonard | Proprietary ils vendor mtompset |
| 14:54 | drojf | mtompset: what oleonard says |
| 14:55 | gtf21 | drojf jcamins - cannot even get past the dh-make-perl bits. On install I get a problem http://mibpaste.com/VD8g6O which then results in the installations failing |
| 14:56 | and then when I tried build I get | |
| 14:56 | http://mibpaste.com/qAH2Tj | |
| 14:57 | mtompset | Did they write an uninstall script for koha in the early days or something? |
| 14:58 | wajasu | maybe try a debug or verbose mode for " make" |
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| 14:59 | wajasu | gtf21 add -d to make command and see |
| 14:59 | Shane-S | Hey all spent some time with my librarian today and I have some questions... |
| 14:59 | drojf | gtf21: ah yes i have that in my logs too. i used wget and built it myself. which lead to some more dependencies |
| 15:00 | Shane-S | first my "..." after barcodes doesn't work is that a setting or is something broken |
| 15:00 | in the "add Item" area, where you have the textbox to type/autogenerate a barcode | |
| 15:00 | gtf21 | ah I see |
| 15:00 | this is messy | |
| 15:00 | ok | |
| 15:01 | jcamins | Shane-S: you need to turn on autobarcode. |
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| 15:04 | Shane-S | sorry my AP locked up, rebooted it... |
| 15:04 | jcamins: I missed your response | |
| 15:05 | reiveune1 | bye |
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| 15:05 | jcamins | Shane-S: you need to turn on autobarcode. It's a syspref. |
| 15:05 | Shane-S | ok ty |
| 15:05 | second question...can I change how many record display in the OPAC and Staff searches to make less "pages"? | |
| 15:06 | jcamins | Shane-S: yes. There's a syspref for each. I don't remember what it's called. |
| 15:06 | numSearchResults, maybe? | |
| 15:07 | Shane-S | okay and last question, anyone know a good 39.50 server for kids books. I couldn't find Big Nate Fun Blaster in Lib of Cong or NY Public |
| 15:07 | jcamins | Big Nate Fun Blaster wasn't in LC or NYPL?!? |
| 15:08 | Shane-S | trying to make cataloging as easy as I can for my Librarian (whom isn't letting kids use the computers to find book *cries a little) |
| 15:08 | drojf | gtf21: yes that is kind of experimental still. i don't know if it's only a problem with arm packages or in general, we should have the dependencies in the koha repository one day |
| 15:08 | oleonard | Shane-S: I find it in Colorado Unified Catalog, a Z39.50 server my catalogers like |
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| 15:09 | Shane-S | jcamins: I did an ISBN search to no avail same with title... ISBN: 9780062090454 |
| 15:09 | oleonard | http://irspy.indexdata.com/fin[…]=dc.title+%3D+%28^colorado*%29+or+dc.title%3D%2Fsort+0&_search=Search |
| 15:09 | Shane-S | oleonard: I will have to add that |
| 15:10 | jcamins | Shane-S: Seattle PL? |
| 15:10 | Shane-S: I believe you, I was joking. ;) | |
| 15:10 | gtf21 | drojf I cannot get half the stuff to install with dh-make-perl, if I'm not going to use the NYTProf stuff, can I miss out the Plack::Middleware::Debug packages |
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| 15:11 | gtf21 | actually I can't even install the Static Minifier |
| 15:11 | wajasu | Shane-S: maybe if you make it look like this http://gsd.sedck12.org/cgi-bin[…]ha/opac-search.pl (a random find) |
| 15:11 | drojf | gtf21: i honestly don't know. dpavlin_ is the plack magician. but you could certainly try |
| 15:11 | gtf21 | thanks |
| 15:12 | it's ghastly | |
| 15:12 | drojf | gtf21: yes i remem ber now, why i did not write the plack part up on the wiki. because it was a pain in the ass, i forgot about that :/ |
| 15:12 | Shane-S | wajasu: lol....that won't help her, she is used to kids standing in front of her, she searches, and tells them where to go |
| 15:13 | wajasu | oh thats a people problem |
| 15:15 | if you have wifi at the school, and there is such a thing as a koha iphone/android app, and some kids have one, maybe tell them to search with the app to bypass her | |
| 15:18 | * cait | waves |
| 15:18 | cait | finally real internet |
| 15:19 | wajasu | gtf21: if you can install cpanm , and run cpanm -L Plack it will create a local::lib and you can add that to your PERL5LIB environment variable |
| 15:21 | gtf21 | wajasu I was thinking of just resorting to cpanm despite the warnings of jcamins and drojf out of frustration |
| 15:21 | but alas I cannot install cpanminus without some playing around | |
| 15:21 | because depends on perl >= 5.13 and I have 5.10.1 on squeeze | |
| 15:21 | and it doesn't want me to update | |
| 15:24 | jcamins | gtf21: you can install using CPAN, of course. It's just more likely to make problems down the road. |
| 15:24 | gtf21 | jcamins that's what I've been trying to avoid |
| 15:25 | but the frustration of trying to get it to work via packages | |
| 15:25 | is too much while I have other projects I should have been working on :\ | |
| 15:25 | jcamins | Yeah, that's an issue. |
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| 15:26 | * jcamins | only uses i386/amd64 systems. |
| 15:26 | gtf21 | while that's an option, I love having a low-power server always on at hoem |
| 15:26 | *home | |
| 15:26 | I did consider using a proper server, but have never had a need to | |
| 15:26 | I like the sheevaplug | |
| 15:26 | (and am waiting for my raspberry pi to arrive - but by god I am not installing koha on it) | |
| 15:27 | drojf | WHY NOT? |
| 15:27 | jcamins | gtf21: but the raspberry pi has already been done! |
| 15:27 | gtf21 | drojf I know you had fun with it, but after this experience with the slightly more powerful sheevaplug, I think I'll avoid |
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| 15:27 | gtf21 | but it will be a similar experience, no? |
| 15:28 | I mean, raspberry pi is arm | |
| 15:28 | sheevaplug is arm | |
| 15:28 | R Pi just has less RAM | |
| 15:28 | they'll both be running debian | |
| 15:29 | drojf | gtf21: http://paste.koha-community.org/192 don't know if your sheeva plug would explode from my files and i had to install some things manually too |
| 15:30 | gtf21 | they're compiled for the same arch right? |
| 15:31 | so it should be fine? | |
| 15:31 | drojf | that's what i would think, but who knows :) |
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| 15:31 | gtf21 | indeed who knows |
| 15:31 | this CPAN installation asks me for my sudo password very three seconds | |
| 15:31 | very annoying | |
| 15:31 | I guess I could give it a go with your deb files | |
| 15:31 | if that's ok | |
| 15:31 | ? | |
| 15:32 | drojf | sure let me upload them somewhere |
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| 15:32 | gtf21 | thanks |
| 15:32 | jcamins | gtf21: you could su to root before running the command. |
| 15:33 | gtf21 | I know but I've got this far |
| 15:33 | I just want it to end | |
| 15:38 | jcamins | gtf21: are you running other services on your Sheevaplug too? (just out of curiosity) |
| 15:38 | gtf21 | jcamins yes, netatalk, occasionally transmission-daemon (although that's currently turned off) |
| 15:39 | drojf | soon, after installing my cool trojan debs ;) |
| 15:39 | gtf21 | I did run a SiriServer off it at one point |
| 15:39 | drojf thanks for these | |
| 15:40 | * mtompset | smirks, "My bug got squash by a 2 year old bug that finally made it through." |
| 15:40 | drojf | i hope it helps. if it does i should maybe put them somehwere permanently for the adventurous people with arm architecture |
| 15:40 | mtompset | bug fix. |
| 15:40 | gtf21 | now I have to work out the install order :P |
| 15:40 | mtompset | I'm off. Try not to have too much fun. |
| 15:40 | And if someone is going to try to do a linux from scratch running koha, let me know. ;) | |
| 15:40 | drojf | gtf21: i think i just did dpkg -i *.deb |
| 15:41 | mtompset | Anyone have a copy of OS/2? Perhaps we should try to get koha to work on it, just for the fun of it. ;) |
| 15:41 | * mtompset | laughs as he heads out the door. |
| 15:41 | drojf | mtompset: if you are really bored try centos first :P |
| 15:43 | wajasu | gtf21: there is a nice lua xmpp server called prosody that may play nice on your ARM i configured it into the IM world. |
| 15:43 | Shane-S | jcamins: Thanks again, you saved me yet again, all those changes worked. |
| 15:43 | jcamins | Shane-S: excellent! |
| 15:44 | Shane-S | oleonard-away: ty for the server page (think it was use, i lost the chat log) |
| 15:44 | wow...my brain just types use instead of you | |
| 15:45 | * Shane-S | would like to trade his hands/brain in for a better model...say $299 a month for 36 months? |
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| 15:47 | drojf | i guess i will be the one to buy chocolate then |
| 15:47 | * drojf | wanders off |
| 15:52 | gtf21 | drojf couldn't get libextutils-makemaker-perl to install but otherwise thumbs up |
| 15:52 | and thanks | |
| 16:01 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #854: UNSTABLE in 1 hr 7 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/854/ |
| 16:01 | * Paul Poulain: Bug 5335 follow-up DBRev number | |
| 16:01 | * jcamins: Bug 8523: Display auth hierarchies w/all marcflavours | |
| 16:01 | * Paul Poulain: Bug 8523 follow-up DBRev number | |
| 16:01 | * Paul Poulain: Bug 8523 follow-up fixing perlcritic | |
| 16:01 | * Paul Poulain: Bug 8523 follow-up OPAC styles for ccsr theme | |
| 16:01 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5335 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , More granular VAT |
| 16:01 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8523 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Authority hierarchies only support UNIMARC | |
| 16:05 | Shane-S joined #koha | |
| 16:11 | jcamins | Did my patch break master? |
| 16:11 | Oh, no, it's sysprefs. | |
| 16:11 | !jenkins build master now | |
| 16:11 | jenkins_koha | jcamins: syntax is: 'build <job> [now|<delay>[s|m|h]] [<parameterkey>=<value>]*' |
| 16:11 | jcamins | Oh, wait, it's because updatedatabase didn't run, not that updatedatabase ran afterward. |
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| 16:15 | jcamins | Today I learned that there is a Microscopist of the United States of America, or was in 1894. |
| 16:21 | libsysguy | wajasu you around |
| 16:22 | wajasu | yes |
| 16:22 | libsysguy | hey I got an updated patch on bug 8798, would you mind checking it out when you get a moment |
| 16:22 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8798 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, elliott, Needs Signoff , Add the use of DBIx::Class |
| 16:22 | wajasu | i'm testing your patch trying to get rid of and exception when running your test |
| 16:23 | libsysguy | oh |
| 16:23 | yeah that one | |
| 16:23 | wahanui | i heard yeah that one was populated |
| 16:23 | libsysguy | its because of our schema |
| 16:23 | I think we can fix it in the class files but at this point I wanted to take it little by little | |
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| 16:25 | libsysguy | I call it patch creepe |
| 16:25 | wajasu | i see khall signed off, but i am trying from a virgin debian VM. there is some dependency missing, did you use cpan on your dev environment? |
| 16:26 | libsysguy | nope I just used the debian package |
| 16:26 | there were a lot of packages that were caught by libdbix-class-schema-loader-perl | |
| 16:27 | wajasu | my problem us the use C4::Context line causes the exception in comment#5. I installed libdbix-class-schema-loader-perl |
| 16:28 | libsysguy | let me go look |
| 16:28 | wajasu | i want to figure this out, i can't even run perl Makefile.PL |
| 16:29 | libsysguy | are you running it as the koha user? |
| 16:29 | wajasu | yes. kohadev |
| 16:29 | koha user | |
| 16:29 | wahanui | koha user is who should own the files after install (or some user that does most definitely not have root privileges) |
| 16:31 | libsysguy | hmm |
| 16:32 | so you can get koha to load on that bux but you can't run C4::Context | |
| 16:32 | wajasu | i'm trying to figure out how to debug something that won't compile. maybe a perl flag? |
| 16:32 | libsysguy | that seems strange to me |
| 16:32 | have you done any cpan installs on tha tdev box? | |
| 16:33 | wajasu | yes. |
| 16:33 | libsysguy | I wonder if something is set to manual |
| 16:33 | jcamins | libsysguy: what's at line 102 in C4::Context? |
| 16:35 | libsysguy | use Koha::Schema |
| 16:35 | jcamins | Ah. |
| 16:35 | wajasu | which is generated |
| 16:35 | or part of the patch | |
| 16:35 | libsysguy | yeah |
| 16:35 | jcamins | What did I say about BEGIN blocks? |
| 16:36 | libsysguy | I'm not allowed to add to them :p |
| 16:36 | thats not in begin | |
| 16:36 | i swear | |
| 16:36 | jcamins | Okay. |
| 16:36 | I just checked, and it looks like you're in the clear. | |
| 16:36 | * libsysguy | phew |
| 16:36 | would hate to have the anger of jcamins rain down on him | |
| 16:37 | libsysguy | im trying to figure out what colin is seeing |
| 16:38 | jcamins | You mean wajasu? |
| 16:38 | libsysguy | no colin |
| 16:38 | jcamins | Oh, no, additional comment from Colin. |
| 16:38 | libsysguy | comment 17 |
| 16:38 | yeah | |
| 16:38 | is he on here? | |
| 16:38 | jcamins | Nope. |
| 16:39 | libsysguy | damn it colin :p |
| 16:39 | jcamins | At least, not if he's still using colinc. |
| 16:39 | wajasu | libsysguy, i'm grabbing lunch, then will install a fresh VM, and try your test again. i'll add a comment. anyway, adding dummytest.pl may not be the best place for a devtool. |
| 16:39 | libsysguy | yeah that is removed in the latest version |
| 16:40 | thanks for testing wajasu | |
| 16:40 | wajasu | your welcome. |
| 16:41 | its going to help me because i have a bunch of tests using DBix to make the test dbindependent. won't integrate until after the release though. | |
| 16:42 | libsysguy | I need it for something I'm working on too, so I'd like to see it in master before I continue too much and have to deal with merge issues later |
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| 17:09 | gaetan_B | bye ! |
| 17:11 | Shane-S joined #koha | |
| 17:12 | * jcamins | wonders if Colin has configured DBIC previously. |
| 17:15 | libsysguy | it certainly sounds like it |
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| 17:51 | tcohen | libsysguy, could you please take a look at the patch for bug 8800 I've just attached? |
| 17:51 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8800 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , SpecifyDueDate && useDaysMode=Datedue wrong behaviour |
| 17:52 | libsysguy | sure |
| 17:55 | tcohen | oh, I made a mistake on the last test, replacing that patch |
| 17:56 | libsysguy | so the code looks ok, (i didn't look at the test) |
| 17:56 | so it looks like you added a days iterator to the calendar | |
| 17:58 | tcohen | i check for the useDaysMode syspref eq 'Datedue' and make it behave as expected |
| 17:58 | added a helper next_open_day method | |
| 17:58 | libsysguy | yeah I know there have been quite a few problems with that |
| 17:58 | tcohen | to iterate over closed days until it finds an open one |
| 17:58 | libsysguy | my only problem with this (and its only because im a picky bastard about the calendar right now) is that it only accounts for days |
| 17:59 | but since we can't currently set closed hours then I give it an okay | |
| 17:59 | did you need a signoff? | |
| 18:00 | tcohen | yes |
| 18:00 | libsysguy | give me a sec to apply and test, would you mind including a testing plan? |
| 18:00 | tcohen | and mostly some advice on the solution I implemented to the problem |
| 18:00 | libsysguy | heh |
| 18:01 | tcohen | yes, I'll comment on testing |
| 18:01 | libsysguy | well I am working on a calendar re-write |
| 18:01 | I haven't published the code yet | |
| 18:01 | but there is a LOT of it | |
| 18:01 | tcohen | oh |
| 18:01 | libsysguy | and it definitely won't be done for 3.10 |
| 18:01 | but hopefully 3.12 | |
| 18:02 | I wrote it so that it was more unit oriented instead of days hours | |
| 18:02 | tcohen | i understand |
| 18:03 | os you're not working on this code, but on a new implementation | |
| 18:03 | libsysguy | right |
| 18:03 | I completely deleted Koha::Calendar and started over | |
| 18:03 | I also deleted C4::Calendar | |
| 18:03 | and wrote a new module Koha::Closure | |
| 18:04 | tcohen | for closed units |
| 18:04 | * libsysguy | should push that code to github |
| 18:04 | tcohen | of time |
| 18:04 | libsysguy | well I made Koha::Calendar do only reads from the DB and Koha::Closure only does writes |
| 18:04 | so Koha::Calendar will have the ability to give you any diff in units, yes | |
| 18:06 | tcohen: http://screencast.com/t/w5O8wOeat7m | |
| 18:07 | tcohen | oh my |
| 18:08 | libsysguy | yeah its all ajaxy |
| 18:08 | I'm working to get the backend running with DBIx::Class | |
| 18:12 | what do you think tcohen? | |
| 18:12 | tcohen | i really like it |
| 18:12 | libsysguy | sweet! |
| 18:12 | about to test yours | |
| 18:13 | tcohen | moving closures around is the only complaint our users have (besides the non-working calendar hehe) |
| 18:14 | libsysguy | heh yeah this should take care of that |
| 18:14 | ;) | |
| 18:14 | tcohen | hopefully |
| 18:14 | libsysguy | it'll also let you set open/closed hours |
| 18:15 | well the test passed | |
| 18:15 | so thats good news | |
| 18:15 | when you have that test plan just pop it in the comments on the bug and let me know | |
| 18:25 | tcohen | added a brief test plan |
| 18:32 | libsysguy | sweet, I'll check it out |
| 18:35 | tcohen | its broken |
| 18:35 | :-D | |
| 18:43 | libsysguy, gotta leave | |
| 18:44 | let me know if you found any problem with it | |
| 18:44 | bye #koha | |
| 18:45 | libsysguy | will do |
| 18:45 | tcohen | made some mistakes |
| 18:45 | and fixed them | |
| 18:46 | i realized we don't have tests for circulation yet | |
| 18:46 | jcamins | Alas, no. |
| 18:50 | oleonard | Anyone else not seeing location information on opac-detail.pl? in master? |
| 18:50 | Oh wait, never mind. Data problem. | |
| 18:51 | ...or is it... | |
| 18:51 | * oleonard | frowns |
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| 19:20 | libsysguy | shoot there was something I was supposed to ask oleonard today |
| 19:20 | but now I can't remember what it is | |
| 19:21 | oleonard | I hope it wasn't about the shelf browser because my head already hurts from that thing |
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| 19:24 | libsysguy | dude I avoid that thing like the plague |
| 19:24 | great now I really can't remeber | |
| 19:24 | it was before all the excitement over DBIx::Class | |
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| 19:30 | jcamins | AAAaaaaaaahhhhhh!!! |
| 19:30 | I was just typing a date. March 1920. | |
| 19:31 | Can anyone guess what I ended up with instead? | |
| 19:31 | wajasu | overflow/unerflow |
| 19:31 | jcamins | wajasu: no, MARC 1920[wait, four digits? oops, this was a year] |
| 19:33 | libsysguy | tcohen did you know that your patch was broken? |
| 19:41 | oleonard | jcamins: MARC is both your superpower and your curse |
| 19:51 | tcohen | libsysguy, is it still broken? |
| 19:52 | i'm on my laptop now and cannot test | |
| 19:55 | trea | kia ora #koha |
| 19:56 | if you configure your koha server to act as a public z39.50 target, will it ignore supressed items, just like it would in the opac search? anyone know? | |
| 19:56 | * oleonard | would be surprised if it did |
| 19:59 | oleonard | trea: Confirmed that Z39.50 does *not* ignore suppressed items. |
| 19:59 | trea | yea i wouldn't think so. oleonard++ |
| 20:01 | jcamins | trea: in fact, all data is returned by Z39.50 at all times. |
| 20:02 | trea | thanks jcamins |
| 20:03 | * jcamins | refers those who are concerned about this to item 2(a) in his search rewrite proposal, which would be necessary for changing the status quo. |
| 20:07 | edveal left #koha | |
| 20:20 | halcyonCorsair | wajasu: rangi: jcamins: the chef stuff should install all the dependencies (for ubuntu 12.04), but it does take a little while to install them all, hence the vagrant box with deps to speed things up :) |
| 20:21 | jcamins | halcyonCorsair: got it, cool! |
| 20:22 | wajasu | thx for sharing. deployment is going to get easier. :) |
| 20:23 | halcyonCorsair | heh, as promised at the end of my blog post about it, I'll about easily using chef knife to get an ec2 image up with it as well |
| 20:23 | hopefully in a couple of days when I have some time | |
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| 20:41 | cait | evening #koha |
| 20:42 | oleonard | Hi cait |
| 20:42 | cait | hi oleonard |
| 20:42 | hm isn't it weekend for you? :) | |
| 20:43 | oleonard | In 15 minutes! |
| 20:44 | * oleonard | notices the OPAC search results now have page numbers at the top as well as the bottom of the page |
| 20:44 | grumbles about that being included in a patch for Bug 8597 | |
| 20:44 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8597 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, fcapovilla, Pushed to Master , New theme for the OPAC with a mobile view |
| 20:44 | cait | oh |
| 20:44 | I didn't notice that yet | |
| 20:44 | is it only in those templates? | |
| 20:44 | jcamins | oleonard: really? I didn't notice that either. |
| 20:44 | oleonard | No, not only in those templates |
| 20:44 | I don't like it when stuff like that creeps in without discussion | |
| 20:45 | cait | understandable |
| 20:45 | * cait | was not involved |
| 20:45 | points at jcamins :P | |
| 20:45 | * jcamins | didn't write it. :P |
| 20:45 | oleonard | Easy not to notice it when you're testing the patch and only looking at the new theme |
| 20:45 | I'm also getting "Did you mean: HASH(0xb1d5d4c)" | |
| 20:46 | jcamins | oleonard: there's a patch for that. |
| 20:46 | oleonard | Okay I won't worry about it |
| 20:46 | jcamins | It's been sitting at signed off since bug 7417 was pushed. |
| 20:46 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7417 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Include alternate forms from authorities in bibliographic searches |
| 20:47 | jcamins | Bug 8209. |
| 20:47 | wahanui | it has been said that bug 8209 is pretty good for QA too. :) |
| 20:47 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8209 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Signed Off , "Did you mean?" suggestions based on authorities |
| 20:49 | jcamins | I guess the thing to do is add CSS IDs to the two different paginators, and hide the top one by default. |
| 20:49 | oleonard | That's reasonable, especially since some people like having one at the top |
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| 21:02 | oleonard | Bye #koha |
| 21:03 | tcohen | bye oleonard |
| 21:10 | libsysguy joined #koha | |
| 21:17 | * magnuse | wishes #koha a good night or other time of the day |
| 21:21 | trea | be well magnuse |
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| 21:27 | rangi | morning |
| 21:27 | wajasu | hi |
| 21:27 | wahanui | privet, wajasu |
| 21:28 | * rangi | wonders if fredericd is around? |
| 21:28 | tcohen | hi rangi |
| 21:29 | cait | hi rangi |
| 21:30 | * rangi | doesnt see a 3.8.5-translate yet so if anyone wnats to do last minute translating this is your chance |
| 21:34 | cait | done |
| 21:34 | hm | |
| 21:35 | 3.8 | |
| 21:35 | rangi | ? |
| 21:35 | you have to do 3.6 too remember | |
| 21:36 | tcohen | what do 3.8.5-translate is? |
| 21:37 | cait | rangi: that#s why I am still translating |
| 21:37 | wajasu | remind me tommorrow is feature freeze, and later on is string freeze? or are you already releaseing. |
| 21:38 | 4:30 friday for some of us. | |
| 21:38 | rangi | what? |
| 21:38 | im rmaint for 3.8.x | |
| 21:38 | wajasu | is it saturday for you? |
| 21:39 | rangi | there are no feature freezes in 3.8.x |
| 21:39 | its always feature freeze | |
| 21:39 | wajasu | oh. |
| 21:39 | rangi | string freeze was on the 15th |
| 21:39 | wajasu | oh |
| 21:39 | rangi | we dont put new features in the stable branches |
| 21:39 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #181 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 21:39 | rangi | are you on the mailing lists? |
| 21:40 | wajasu | thats one area i rarely look at. i should. :) |
| 21:40 | rangi | the release is the 22nd nz time every month |
| 21:40 | jcamins releases his on the 22nd his time (3.6.x) | |
| 21:40 | wajasu | ok. |
| 21:41 | cait | done :) |
| 21:42 | tcohen | rangi, how do we tell RMaint to look at some patches from master for his release? |
| 21:42 | rangi | comment on the bug |
| 21:43 | however i look at every single patch pushed to master | |
| 21:43 | tcohen | he he |
| 21:43 | rangi | and then decide if i am going to cherry-pick it |
| 21:43 | tcohen | several calendar/due date related patches where pushed |
| 21:43 | but I just sent a new one | |
| 21:44 | rangi | yep, too late for 3.8.5 |
| 21:44 | when it gets pushed to master i'll test it, and decide if i want it in 3.8. | |
| 21:44 | tcohen | yes |
| 21:44 | rangi | im currently up to date with master |
| 21:44 | some I have held until after 3.8.5 | |
| 21:45 | https://gitorious.org/koha-3-8-x/pages/Home | |
| 21:45 | tcohen | i was asking if there's a way so it is not a problem if i forget about them :-D |
| 21:45 | rangi | nope, i check them all |
| 21:46 | tcohen | great rangi |
| 21:46 | so i'm ready for weekend :-D | |
| 21:46 | rangi | i will skip master for security related ones of course |
| 21:46 | if you notice one of those, email me directly | |
| 21:47 | drojf | for the record, koha 3.8.4 installs fine on the latest overclocking-friendly 2012-09-18-wheezy-raspbian hard-float image for the raspberry pi |
| 21:47 | so the wiki is kind of out of date | |
| 21:47 | rangi | excellent |
| 21:47 | wajasu | :) |
| 21:47 | rangi | 3.8.4 works well on new installs |
| 21:47 | still issues with upgrading from older isntalls that use fines | |
| 21:48 | there is a patch to fix that, that is still in failed qa | |
| 21:48 | the best way to upgrade currently, if you are using fines | |
| 21:49 | is to do | |
| 21:49 | update accountlines set description = concat(description,' 23:59') where accounttype='F' or accounttype='FU'; | |
| 21:49 | then upgrade | |
| 21:49 | this is only if you do overdue fines | |
| 21:50 | drojf | i'm so happy we don't have fines :) |
| 21:50 | rangi | and only if upgrading from pre 3.8.0 |
| 21:50 | getting the patch working and in would be god | |
| 21:51 | but im pleased to say 3.8.4 works well once that is done, and 3.8.5 will be even better | |
| 21:51 | and less warns in the logs too | |
| 21:51 | wajasu | when is 3.8.6 going to be released ? ;) |
| 21:53 | i wish someone would rebase 6030 as my comment requires so i can test and get html working in overdues notices | |
| 21:53 | rangi | 09:40 <@rangi> the release is the 22nd nz time every month |
| 21:57 | tcohen | bug 8724 should be considered, for those lonely souls trying to upgrade from NoZebra setups... |
| 21:57 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8724 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Signed Off , Upgrade from NoZebra installs is broken |
| 21:57 | rangi | get it passed qa and pushed into master, then ask me again:) |
| 21:58 | tcohen | :-P |
| 22:03 | rangi | preview |
| 22:03 | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]bfef750ae4f6dc238 | |
| 22:05 | tcohen | maybe add some \t in the 'bugs fixed' section? |
| 22:05 | drojf | impressive list |
| 22:06 | cait | 91 sign offs from rangi |
| 22:06 | wow | |
| 22:15 | tcohen | its really impresive list, for a maintenance release! |
| 22:16 | wajasu | phenomenal! |
| 22:25 | jcamins_away | Guess I'd better e-mail fredericd and ask him for a pull request. |
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| 22:42 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.8.x build #181: UNSTABLE in 1 hr 3 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.8.x/181/ |
| 22:42 | Chris Cormack: Release notes for 3.8.5 | |
| 22:57 | wajasu | thats what its all about |
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| 23:43 | tcohen | nice weekend #koha |
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| 23:52 | martian523 | hi, why can't i find the "Renewals" box when creating an item type? |
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