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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 00:02 | rangi | a second patch maybe |
| 00:02 | thats fine | |
| 00:02 | but not a new bug | |
| 00:02 | wajasu | he keeps squashing them together. |
| 00:02 | rangi | i think that kyle already has fixed the translation stuff |
| 00:02 | well talk to him then :) | |
| 00:02 | there is no way that it should be pushed without working for more than english | |
| 00:03 | wajasu | i agree. |
| 00:03 | rangi | i personally hate squashing patches |
| 00:03 | after they have been attached to a bug | |
| 00:04 | i much prefer a follow up | |
| 00:04 | but others seem to like squashing | |
| 00:05 | wajasu | i'm leaving it alone. someone else needs to get familiar with it. i think he is trying to help QA to have less to apply. i know if he didn't squash, there would be 8-10 patches. |
| 00:05 | rangi | yep |
| 00:05 | and often that is a lot easier to QA | |
| 00:05 | big monolithic patches suck | |
| 00:06 | * rangi | spent 3 months breaking huge patches into smaller ones to actually get them testable |
| 00:07 | wajasu | he probably should have tested more thoroughly before, and not used a signer to do that work. he did get burned by the switch from YUI js and converted, so its been a long road for him. |
| 00:08 | rangi | *nod* |
| 00:09 | wajasu | i totally agree that if koha is going to make it in the long run, its got to get more tests. and folks need to run them. |
| 00:10 | rangi | you mean continue to make it :) |
| 00:10 | 12 years isnt short for software | |
| 00:10 | but yes more tests are always good | |
| 00:10 | wajasu | yes. its rare. but its the community. |
| 00:11 | rangi | hmm? |
| 00:11 | not sure i understand what you mean | |
| 00:12 | wajasu | the community supporting it is what makes it survive/valuable. |
| 00:12 | rangi | thats what makes any free software project |
| 00:12 | thats not unique | |
| 00:12 | wajasu | its the need/market then. |
| 00:13 | rangi | what exactly is your point? Im failing to see |
| 00:16 | wajasu | i was thinking about the rss and smsoverdues modules. should they be fixed? or fall to the wayside unitl someone else has a need? |
| 00:17 | rangi | the rss isn't done that old way, the current rss feeds work fine, so it can probably be gotten rid of, we don't need cron jobs to generate static rss etc anyway |
| 00:17 | sms, id leave until someone has money/desire to do them | |
| 00:18 | my rule for my free time, is work on stuff i enjoy, ill work on boring stuff if people pay me | |
| 00:18 | its a good rule and has worked well for the last 16 years | |
| 00:20 | wajasu | same here. plenty to do that i enjoy. |
| 00:24 | i thought i would put a dent in the 80+ bugs needing signoff in August, but new ones keep appearing. i wonder howmany of the current 103 will make it to 3.10? | |
| 00:24 | 103 signedoff | |
| 00:24 | rangi | hmm? |
| 00:24 | theres only 71 needing signoff | |
| 00:25 | im more focused on the 19 passed QA | |
| 00:25 | then any out of the 103 that are bug fixes | |
| 00:25 | thats what I would look at if was RM | |
| 00:25 | but im not thankfully | |
| 00:25 | 5 times is enough | |
| 00:25 | 5 sign off for september from you | |
| 00:26 | and 5 in august | |
| 00:26 | so you can break your record still have 18 days to go :) | |
| 00:26 | http://blog.bigballofwax.co.nz[…]-for-august-2012/ | |
| 00:28 | wajasu | math is fun. how about how many times one tested and failedQA. i'm up there. |
| 00:28 | rangi | 2 secs ill tell ya |
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| 00:30 | rangi | 4 for august |
| 00:30 | 3 for september | |
| 00:31 | joubu wins that | |
| 00:31 | 14 for august | |
| 00:34 | wajasu | you know when i was testing search and fuzzy, i wondered why when i search for 1000 ways |
| 00:34 | it didn't find things unless i put "1,000 ways" | |
| 00:35 | the comman in a number might be something to strip for an index. | |
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| 01:30 | plattcollege | hello, any idea how I can start troubleshooting this issue: I am trying to upload a .mrc file that I exported from koha. After selecting the file for upload, I click upload it reloads the page without staging anything |
| 01:32 | rangi | what version of koha? |
| 01:35 | plattcollege | 3.8 |
| 01:35 | rangi | 3.8. what? 3.8.0 ? |
| 01:35 | if you look at the about page it will tell you the version number | |
| 01:36 | plattcollege | 3.8.4 |
| 01:36 | I think | |
| 01:36 | the system is not in front of me | |
| 01:36 | rangi | id look at the apache logs |
| 01:36 | plattcollege | it behaves as if it will begin the upload saying uploading zero percent then reloads the page |
| 01:36 | ic | |
| 01:38 | I did a patron upload and it staged ok but... this shows no errors just a reload | |
| 01:39 | thx | |
| 01:39 | rangi | i havent seen it happen but i'd check the apache logs, also check the staged marc page |
| 01:39 | in case it did stage in the background | |
| 01:40 | plattcollege | yeah, I checked stage; it is clear |
| 01:40 | thanks for the help | |
| 01:40 | bag | hmmm fly by |
| 01:41 | rangi | mibbit |
| 01:41 | usually are | |
| 01:41 | bag | weird I would like to hear if they figured it out |
| 01:41 | rangi | well he wasnt actually at his system |
| 01:41 | * bag | googles plattcollege |
| 01:42 | bag | especially if they are on at this time of night (must be close to me :) ) |
| 01:42 | I can use more dev's close to me | |
| 01:42 | I want to have a regional hackfest day | |
| 01:47 | rangi | good idea |
| 01:52 | jcamins_away | Surprisingly few devs out on that coast. |
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| 02:23 | jcamins_away | eythian++ # for thinking "hey, I bet people will want to add more source functions for converting CSVs to MARC" |
| 02:40 | rangi: I think you'll appreciate this article that just came across my RSS reader: Eclipse editor plugin for MARC. It just feels *right*, somehow, doesn't it? | |
| 02:42 | rangi | heh |
| 02:42 | lets pour some bloat on our bloat, and add a side of java | |
| 02:44 | jcamins_away | Yes please! |
| 02:44 | :D | |
| 02:44 | rangi | have you played with book psychic jcamins_away ? |
| 02:45 | jcamins_away | I have not, though I saw the announcement. |
| 02:45 | rangi | once HLT have finished their move into their new building i might test it with them |
| 02:45 | they have LTFL | |
| 02:46 | jcamins_away | :) |
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| 03:02 | * wajasu | just messed with cpanfile and carton to install Plack and starman. sweeeet! |
| 03:22 | mtompset | Nice. :) |
| 03:22 | ago43 left #koha | |
| 03:26 | wajasu | just di a hello world! |
| 03:27 | mtompset | Always a good first program. :) |
| 03:28 | wajasu | os i guess we would be checking out performance of mod_perl, and such. maybe add interceptors for security, etc. |
| 03:30 | mtompset | Or asking, just in case someone has already evaluated that possibility. -- I haven't. :) |
| 03:33 | wajasu | i see folks already are working Plack on the site. I was just wondering we could get some url mapping and security framework in place, as all the permissions checking could be tested, etc. |
| 03:34 | mtompset | Oooo... you said the word "test". Careful, people might love you. ;) |
| 03:43 | Does anyone know if the locale of one's OS affects the pre-web install building/installing of Koha? | |
| 03:46 | wajasu | its possible if the perl interpreter falls back to some OS locale for encoding or such. but it may not be an issue if the installer has sufficient unicode/utf8 usage. not really sure. |
| 03:47 | mtompset | Okay... I'll move that step earlier then. ;) |
| 03:55 | wajasu | i'm going to paste my debian preseed script that i use to build VM from nothing. it has alot of install stuff in it, and might be helpfull. |
| 04:04 | mtompset | Sure, it will help me make sure my instructions are generalized enough. :) |
| 04:05 | oleonard++ # thanks for the time and patience with bug 8339. | |
| 04:05 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8339 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Signed Off , div id="login" should be id="login_controls" in header.inc |
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| 04:14 | Amit_Gupta | heya chris |
| 04:32 | pastebot | "wajasu" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "koha VM scripts/fragments showing how to build debian squeeze VM with libvirt and shell script." (716 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/169 |
| 04:32 | wajasu | not that anyone would be interested in it. |
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| 04:37 | mib_0ralv0 | hey guys |
| 04:37 | i need some real help | |
| 04:37 | here | |
| 04:38 | wajasu | ask |
| 04:38 | mib_0ralv0 | i mistakenly updated koha from the repos after i had initially installed from source |
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| 04:39 | mib_0ralv0 | then for some reasons my items show showing in search |
| 04:39 | cait left #koha | |
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| 04:39 | cait | morning :) |
| 04:39 | mib_0ralv0 | panic, uninstall then installed from source |
| 04:39 | morning cait | |
| 04:39 | wajasu | hey cait. |
| 04:40 | mib_0ralv0 | but im still not seeing any items in the opac |
| 04:40 | how can i get these back? | |
| 04:40 | mtompset | which OS, which source, what instructions did you follow? |
| 04:41 | wajasu: I was noticing your my.cnf tweaks. I saw someone else using something similar. Is that the recommended way?\ | |
| 04:42 | mib_0ralv0 | on ubuntu 12.04 |
| 04:42 | i had my sources.list populated with the repos before | |
| 04:42 | wajasu | mtompset: i scoured those from multiple wiki and INSTALLS. that works well for me. i was debugging UTF8 label printing so i wanted to be sure. rangi might suggest the default for mysql is utf8 these days. |
| 04:43 | mib_0ralv0 | i just did a aptitude install koha-common |
| 04:43 | mtompset | no, what I'm saying is the [client] and [mysql] tweaks were not in the default instructions that I was following. |
| 04:43 | mib_0ralv0 | i've since reverted but now i just need to figure how to get back my biblios |
| 04:44 | mtompset | You probably need to re-setup your zebra indexing all over again. |
| 04:44 | wajasu | mtompset: when those utf setting are correct for the mysql client, then when i select from the mysql command line, i see the utf8 chars correctly, otherwsie black diamonds. i needed it to debug NFC utf for overdue_notice. |
| 04:44 | mib_0ralv0 | tried these but second command return some erors misc/maintenance/remove_items_from_biblioitems.pl --run misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -b -r |
| 04:45 | mtompset | what version of koha are you running? |
| 04:45 | mib_0ralv0 | latest |
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| 04:45 | mtompset | why did you run those commands?! |
| 04:45 | particularly the first one. | |
| 04:46 | "Koha 3.4.x or later no longer stores items in biblio records. If you are upgrading from a version older than Koha 3.4.x, run the following two commands which can take a long time (several hours) to complete for large databases:" | |
| 04:47 | mib_0ralv0 | i started following the upgrade instructions |
| 04:47 | mtompset | I just quoted from the upgrade instructions. |
| 04:47 | You said you are running the latest from source. | |
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| 04:48 | mib_0ralv0 | i now have a table in my db called import records that seem a little large compare to the others |
| 04:49 | mtompset | Sorry, as I am not familiar with the results of that script on newer systems, I can't help you. |
| 04:49 | And thank you.. that reminds me of another tweak that I need to make to the instructions. | |
| 04:50 | mib_0ralv0 | ok |
| 04:51 | wajasu | is your db a test copy. you might restore the db from a backup and rerun the webinstaller, etc. just to be sure. |
| 04:52 | mtompset: one thing i did 3 years ago with the instructions, was try to run the tests. i also installed it on archlinux. it took hours. (not many perl modules available in those days) | |
| 04:53 | mib_0ralv0 | how can i force the web installer to run again? |
| 04:53 | mtompset | <browser> http://127.0.1.1:8080/ (that's the default URL) |
| 04:53 | wajasu | if you create a new db and load your database, it will create the tables etc. |
| 04:54 | mtompset | wajasu: mib_0ralv0 already has his tables. |
| 04:54 | Sorry... I've got to get back to editing. | |
| 04:55 | mib_0ralv0 | could yall say which tables now stores the items? |
| 04:55 | rangi | items |
| 04:56 | * rangi | leaves to catch his bus |
| 04:58 | mib_0ralv0 | which table has the logs *audit log kinda thingy |
| 04:58 | just want to see the last record added/deleted and verify it in items | |
| 05:00 | wajasu | in mysql you can do: "show tables;" then "describe <tablename>" you could do "select count(*) from items;" look at the count and use that to select * from items where id=<count>" |
| 05:00 | bag | the record number is incremental - so max(biblionumber) will show it to you |
| 05:01 | mtompset | max(biblionumber) is a better method. |
| 05:01 | wajasu | yup |
| 05:01 | mib_0ralv0 | my item reporting over 3700 which i dig is round about correct |
| 05:01 | bag | there you go :) |
| 05:01 | mib_0ralv0 | but im not sure why they refuse to show up |
| 05:02 | i've just restarted the server hopng it change something since it hadnt restart before | |
| 05:02 | bag | zebraserver? |
| 05:02 | mib_0ralv0 | no the physical server |
| 05:02 | wajasu | when you do rebuild-aebra use -v and you might get feedback to see total exported for the index. also be shure to have the KOHA_CONF and PERL5LIB correct when you run zebrasrv |
| 05:03 | bag | sorry I meant is zebraserver running? |
| 05:03 | mib_0ralv0 | yes i had made sure to start it |
| 05:03 | bag | yup also what wajasu is saying :) |
| 05:04 | mib_0ralv0 | im gonna try the rebuild again as soon as things get back up |
| 05:05 | those servers take mighty long time to go through post and scsi crop | |
| 05:05 | bag | also ps -ef | grep zebra - so you definitely know zebra is running |
| 05:08 | mib_0ralv0 | seem the restart fixed it |
| 05:09 | wajasu | great! |
| 05:09 | mtompset | and the rebuild_zebra needs to be run as 'koha', otherwise you run into permissions hell. |
| 05:09 | mib_0ralv0 | thanks yall, is there anyway to see the full catalogue from the staff interface |
| 05:09 | mtompset | (since you probably have a 'koha' user) |
| 05:10 | mib_0ralv0 | i think i had done a crontab for that |
| 05:11 | wajasu | mtompset: is there anything int he Install about those permissions for (/var/... etc) ? |
| 05:11 | mtompset | Thanks for the suggestion. I'll look at that. |
| 05:12 | mtj | so, when running koha from the packages… use koha-rebuild-zebra |
| 05:13 | *dont* use rebuild_zebra.pl script | |
| 05:13 | mtompset | I'm running through the document right now trying to get a consistent order for all three methods of installation. |
| 05:13 | mib_0ralv0 | in items im seeing duplications in `biblionumber' should this be? |
| 05:14 | mtompset | mtj, mib_0ralv0 uninstalled the packages. |
| 05:15 | mib_0ralv0 | itemnuber seem not to have duplicates though |
| 05:15 | cait | biblionumber is ok in items - one record can have more than one item |
| 05:16 | mtompset | mib_0ralv0: You really shouldn't be tinkering with the internals of MySQL for Koha if you aren't sure what you are doing. |
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| 05:19 | mib_0ralv0 | not making changes just verifying data |
| 05:19 | mtompset | verify data through the user interface. |
| 05:19 | mib_0ralv0 | last time we lost over 600 records |
| 05:20 | mtompset | That's most likely a zebra indexing problem. |
| 05:20 | mib_0ralv0 | the power kept going without notice |
| 05:20 | mtompset | Okay... perhaps a DB corruption problem. :) |
| 05:20 | mib_0ralv0 | we would search and it is listed but when selected we get 404 error |
| 05:21 | yes i think it was db corruption | |
| 05:21 | so i'm just making sure that all is intact | |
| 05:21 | mtompset | installing and uninstalling packages over a source install will not affect your data. |
| 05:21 | mib_0ralv0 | cant take no blame this time around ;) |
| 05:22 | actually its another power failure that caused me to have to do upgrade...had startup issues so i fixed them and got started upgrading what i could during the down time | |
| 05:23 | only to findout that things broke when i was told no items were being shown | |
| 05:24 | cait | it's most likely an indexing problem |
| 05:24 | mib_0ralv0 | they sorting out the power so hopefully wont be anymore such issues |
| 05:25 | it sure was cait | |
| 05:26 | i recall sometime last year browsing the koha db and seeing a tble that list the changes sort of like an audit log | |
| 05:26 | not sure if it was the session table | |
| 05:28 | it listed what record was added/deleted and by which user, but the current session table doesnt have it listed that way neither can i find that table | |
| 05:29 | it even had the transaction date, can anyone point me to which table now has that log? | |
| 05:29 | cait | action_logs or statistics log |
| 05:31 | but I am not sure that will help you with your problem | |
| 05:32 | * mtompset | points at cait, "Expert," and grins. |
| 05:33 | mib_0ralv0 | ok |
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| 05:34 | fredericd | morning |
| 05:35 | mtompset | Bonjour, fredericd. :) |
| 05:35 | mib_0ralv0 | ok thx cait |
| 05:36 | cait | hi fredericd |
| 05:39 | Amit_Gupta | heya cait |
| 05:39 | cait | mib_0ralv0: I probably shouldn't ask this while eating breakfast, but what is the problem? |
| 05:39 | hi Amit_Gupta | |
| 05:40 | mib_0ralv0 | just saying thanks |
| 05:40 | lol | |
| 05:40 | mtompset | cait, he installed packages "aptitude install koha-common" on top of a tarball install. |
| 05:40 | mib_0ralv0 | actionlog was of help...got an idea of last addition |
| 05:41 | mtompset | he then removed the packages, and was trying to make sure all the other configuration pieces are working still. |
| 05:41 | mib_0ralv0 | and requested it from opac with results |
| 05:41 | cait | oh |
| 05:41 | mtompset | an installation mess for sure. :) |
| 05:42 | mib_0ralv0 | yes it was |
| 05:42 | need to put a huge dont do somewhere in instructions | |
| 05:43 | mtompset | Though, really... if you have the chance. I'd recommend converting from a tarball install to a packages install. It isn't too hard. Just you don't really want to do it on the same machine. |
| 05:43 | Then once that test environment is up and running, do it for production. | |
| 05:44 | mib_0ralv0 | btw love the new staff interface wish the opac could get a similar upgrade |
| 05:44 | mtompset | given the ways the OPAC can be tweaked using the syspreferences, it doesn't need much of an upgrade. |
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| 05:44 | mib_0ralv0 | maybe an upgrade that works a bit like igoogle |
| 05:45 | true mtompset but the default install for novice has lost some appeal...at least the shine not so much there | |
| 05:47 | im thinking something that we could drag an drop some basic stuffs and then lock that display for the users | |
| 05:47 | mtompset | Yes, but isn't that your job? ;) |
| 05:47 | (Making the OPAC shiny, keeping koha running, etc.) | |
| 05:48 | mib_0ralv0 | ;) hehe |
| 05:48 | cait | there is a new mobile theme that will probably be in the next version |
| 05:49 | bag | heya cait |
| 05:49 | cait | morning bag |
| 05:49 | bag | evening from yesterday to you :) |
| 05:49 | cait | owen's blog? |
| 05:49 | wahanui | owen's blog is http://www.myacpl.org/koha/ |
| 05:50 | cait | bag: oh, you live in the past? |
| 05:50 | bag | yup I'm in the past present |
| 05:50 | mib_0ralv0 | keeping it running yes but the shiny part not so much so...they were to have some team with web experience do wrk on it but its not working out it seem...once i heard someone saying the yahoo thingy too restrictive |
| 05:51 | yes i used to view owen stuffs | |
| 05:52 | bag | heya cait I got an easy one for you to sign off - I think -bug 7143 (I helped melia write it today) would be great to get it signed-off so I can tell her in the morning :) |
| 05:52 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7143 trivial, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Needs Signoff , Bug for tracking changes to the about page |
| 05:53 | cait | bag: can't do it now -have to finish the online exam for my distance study course this morning |
| 05:53 | even going into work later | |
| 05:53 | bag | heh :) |
| 05:53 | well good luck - it's simple so maybe someone else will grab it before she shows to work :) | |
| 05:54 | mib_0ralv0 | study well cait hope you get some nice topic that you can ace |
| 05:54 | cait | thx mib_0ralv0 |
| 05:54 | bag: it will take around 90 mins, maybe can squeeze it in | |
| 05:55 | bag | no worries - do well on the exam |
| 05:56 | mib_0ralv0 | owen has a nice setup but im just not able to find the time to delve into the code stuffs |
| 05:58 | cait | mib_0ralv0: the presentation from eythian was nice too on the topic, showing off some pretty nice opacs |
| 05:58 | http://swop.bsz-bw.de/frontdoo[…]e_opus=1029&la=en | |
| 06:03 | mtompset | Hmmm.... does someone have a sample color stylesheet? |
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| 06:19 | mib_0ralv0 | now downlding will check it out |
| 06:23 | is there anyway of migrating winisys to koha? | |
| 06:24 | mtompset | I've never heard of winisys, so I can't help. |
| 06:26 | mib_0ralv0 | winisis |
| 06:27 | alex_a | bonjour |
| 06:28 | mib_0ralv0 | http://contribs.koha.org/revision_view.php?rid=10 |
| 06:28 | mtompset | Still never heard of it, sorry. |
| 06:28 | That's not our website. | |
| 06:29 | That's LibLime's website. | |
| 06:29 | www.koha-community.org is ours. | |
| 06:30 | mib_0ralv0 | sorry knew it was a evil paste |
| 06:30 | lol | |
| 06:30 | mtompset | It's not evil. Just trying to make sure you understand there is a difference. |
| 06:30 | mib_0ralv0 | but here i'll make amends |
| 06:30 | 1. Develop your bibliographic data in winisis by following a standrad data format (CCF or MARC 21). If u r following MARC 21, possibly ISISMARC (available freely) is a better option. 2. After data entry work, export the databse as iso file. You can do it through winisis also, even if u r using isismarc. Go to file menu, select export. the file will be saved | |
| 06:31 | mtompset | If you can export MARC 21 format files, you can stage imports into Koha. |
| 06:32 | mib_0ralv0 | in work folder under c:\winisis. 3. Download MarcEdit, another free MARC editor availavle freely. 4. Open MARC tool, select CDS/ISIS conversion, Give file name. The iso file will be converted into MARC 21 format and will be saved as .mrc. |
| 06:32 | mbalmer | dou want to read us the winisys manual here? |
| 06:32 | mib_0ralv0 | 5. Open Koha and import this file. It will go to biblio basket. 6. From the cataloguing interface, you can bring each record into ur MARC editor of Koha. 7. In case of bulk import, use the file under misc folder under koha |
| 06:32 | mtompset | No thank you. |
| 06:32 | mib_0ralv0 | no i just got those from a link |
| 06:33 | postted just incase i have to search again for it | |
| 06:33 | it will be in the irc logs | |
| 06:33 | ;) | |
| 06:33 | mbalmer | good idea. I shall do the same with the local news from the local newspaper….. |
| 06:34 | mib_0ralv0 | hehe |
| 06:34 | mtompset | mbalmer++ # love the sarcastic wit. |
| 06:37 | Rather than flood the channel with cut and paste from a link, wouldn't it make more sense to just share the link? A lot less spammy. | |
| 06:40 | rangi | He/she did share the link |
| 06:41 | Someone commented it's liblime site, ... | |
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| 06:41 | reiveune | hello |
| 06:41 | rangi | Picking on newbies may be fun, but it's not cool |
| 06:41 | mbalmer | salut marseille! |
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| 06:47 | mtompset | The link doesn't directly go to that text. |
| 06:48 | Wasn't trying to pick on newbies. | |
| 06:49 | mbalmer | teaching trolls != picking on newbies |
| 06:49 | mtompset | true enough, he admitted to knowing the difference between koha.org and koha-community.org. |
| 06:50 | But we should aim to be polite to everyone, even trolls (malicious or otherwise). | |
| 06:51 | mbalmer | we have been polite |
| 06:52 | mtompset | How sarcastic wit is perceived is different to everyone. I know you didn't mean to be mean, but a third party may not have. |
| 06:52 | Anyways... back to edit'ing... I'm almost happy with my wall of text which will soon come tumbling down into well organized pieces. | |
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| 06:53 | mtompset | (and hiding the tarball instructions in some distant corner) |
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| 07:00 | mtompset | Greetings, eythian. |
| 07:00 | eythian | morning |
| 07:03 | bag | heya eythian |
| 07:03 | wahanui | eythian is in NZ. ;) or a good influence |
| 07:03 | eythian | hi there |
| 07:03 | wahanui: eythian is not in NZ right now | |
| 07:03 | wahanui | ...but eythian is in NZ. ;) or a good influence... |
| 07:07 | mtompset | wahanui: eythian knows where eythian is. Listen to eythian. |
| 07:07 | wahanui | wish i knew, mtompset |
| 07:08 | mtompset | Silly bot. |
| 07:10 | eythian? | |
| 07:10 | wahanui | hmmm... eythian is in NZ. ;) or a good influence |
| 07:10 | mtompset | no, wahanui. |
| 07:11 | bag | mtj? |
| 07:11 | wahanui | DeM KraZy NutZ!! |
| 07:11 | bag | knows that! |
| 07:13 | mtompset | eythian? |
| 07:13 | wahanui | eythian is a good influence or located somewhere. |
| 07:32 | mtompset | This is when I wish I had my dream computer, so I could test more things in parallel. |
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| 07:32 | rangi | hi UBPL |
| 07:32 | UBPL | hi Rangi. |
| 07:36 | how can I give permission to cataloger for item's current location ? Cataloger would like to add items for other branch library ? | |
| 07:37 | mtompset | Out of curiousity, which version of koha are you using? |
| 07:38 | UBPL | koha 3.8.2 |
| 07:38 | mtompset | (not directly related to your question) |
| 07:38 | rangi | edit_items should do it |
| 07:39 | mtompset | As long as they have a library set, correct? |
| 07:39 | rangi | shouldnt need one |
| 07:39 | mtompset | oh, for OTHER branch library. |
| 07:39 | rangi | you pick the home location in the items screen |
| 07:39 | UBPL | could not see other libraries from list for each section of current and permanent location ? |
| 07:40 | rangi | do you have independent branches on? |
| 07:40 | UBPL | yes OTHER branch library |
| 07:40 | rangi | you will need to switch that off |
| 07:40 | UBPL | how ? |
| 07:40 | rangi | in systempreferences |
| 07:40 | UBPL | next |
| 07:41 | what is next ? | |
| 07:41 | rangi | admin |
| 07:41 | then switch IndependantBranches | |
| 07:41 | to don't prevent | |
| 07:42 | if you still want branches to work independently but allow the user to edit | |
| 07:42 | you can make that user a superlibrarian instead | |
| 07:42 | so 2 ways of doing it, depending on what you want | |
| 07:43 | UBPL | thanks. i trying to find it |
| 07:43 | rangi | where are you from? |
| 07:43 | Something Something Public Library ? | |
| 07:43 | UBPL | Ulaanbaatar Public Library, Ulaanbaatar, Mongolia. |
| 07:44 | do you remember, my former name is Cybermon for here. | |
| 07:44 | cait | wb :) |
| 07:45 | rangi | ah now i remember :) |
| 07:45 | good to have you back | |
| 07:45 | i still want to visit your library one day | |
| 07:54 | mtompset | Hmmm... quick question... does a git installation require "sudo make install"? or will a "make install" suffice? |
| 07:55 | rangi | make install will suffice |
| 07:55 | as long as you chose a path you have rights to | |
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| 07:55 | mtompset | which the default is ~/koha-dev. |
| 07:56 | rangi | yep |
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| 07:56 | UBPL1 | hi again |
| 07:56 | sorry my browser was down. | |
| 07:57 | it works by administration section | |
| 07:59 | rangi | yep, you could also try turning that back to prevent, and make the user a superlibrarian and see if that works too |
| 08:03 | UBPL1 | i tried to give superlibrarian for cataloger. but it was not worked. that is why I used Administation section. |
| 08:03 | May I missing for superlibrarian - permission | |
| 08:04 | mtompset | If there are multiple people with edit-item permissions, wouldn't it make more sense to do the super librarian method, so as to prevent multiple people from potentially affecting multiple locations? |
| 08:05 | rangi | mtompset: only if it worked, and it sounds like it didnt |
| 08:05 | * mtompset | nods, "I can accept that. :)" |
| 08:07 | UBPL1 | can i make one person to make multiple loations for items |
| 08:08 | rangi | yes, if you have turned independentbranches off, anyone with edit_items permissions can do that |
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| 08:09 | UBPL1 | i see |
| 08:10 | independentbranches on, can anyone with edit_items permissions ? | |
| 08:10 | mtompset | No. |
| 08:10 | They get locked into their branch. | |
| 08:11 | UBPL1 | independentbranches on, only superlibrarian can be to edit_items permission ? |
| 08:11 | rangi | yes |
| 08:11 | UBPL1 | i see. I will try it later |
| 08:12 | mtompset | That's why rangi said there were two ways of doing it. |
| 08:12 | UBPL1 | thanks MTOMPSET. |
| 08:12 | mtompset | That's why I asked about limiting who can edit items to just the new person. |
| 08:13 | You're most welcome. | |
| 08:15 | bag | alright night night :) |
| 08:16 | eythian | http://lesswrong.com/lw/c1/wel[…]_die_by_pacifism/ <-- interesting read |
| 08:16 | UBPL1 | what is command multi opac interface for koha ? |
| 08:18 | mtompset | night, night, bag. ;) |
| 08:18 | UBPL1 | thanks again. it works. i used help from wiki-koha |
| 08:20 | hey guys. one more question. please... | |
| 08:22 | mtompset | eythian: Yes, interesting read. |
| 08:24 | UBPL1 | i have two language for OPAC and STAFF interface. ( Looks like: Language : English : mon ) |
| 08:24 | How can i change mon to mongolian word ? | |
| 08:28 | mtompset | Sounds like a po file question, which I can't answer. :( |
| 08:29 | rangi | its actually the languages table in the db |
| 08:30 | UBPL1 | i think it will be change |
| 08:32 | mtompset | I'm looking at 3.6.3, so the tables might be different. Do you mean language_descriptions? |
| 08:33 | rangi | yep |
| 08:34 | mtompset | So lang='en' means I have English selected and subtag='en' means I'm displaying English as the language, right? |
| 08:35 | Which explains lang='fr' and subtab='en' has a description of Anglais. It's French for English. | |
| 08:41 | rangi: I was wondering about the my.cnf modifications that you and someone else were discussing the other day. They had "default-character-set=utf8" in the client and mysql sections. Does that force the clients to behave as utf-8? | |
| 08:41 | rangi | not me, i dont have any of those |
| 08:45 | mtompset | oh? could you tell me then if http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]a_on_Ubuntu#MySQL is way off then? |
| 08:47 | eythian | mtompset: it is missing the innodb |
| 08:47 | err | |
| 08:47 | innodb thing | |
| 08:47 | rangi | file per table |
| 08:47 | eythian | innodb_file_per_table |
| 08:47 | yeah that | |
| 08:47 | wahanui | yeah that is fine as it is |
| 08:47 | UBPL1 | any help for my question. |
| 08:47 | mtompset | okay... What innodb thing? |
| 08:48 | eythian | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Koha_Tuning_Guide |
| 08:48 | mtompset | UBPL, UBPL1: if you can browse language_descriptions you can change the description from 'Mon' to the Mongolian. |
| 08:49 | eythian | (though, I hate it when people just dump a config in with no explanation) |
| 08:50 | mtompset | That's why I link to manuals in that section. |
| 08:52 | My commentary about, UBPL, UBPL1, was intended as an indirect answer and explanation. Sorry for being unclear. | |
| 08:52 | Oops.. commentary above. | |
| 08:53 | Package installs do the inno db stuff, right? | |
| 08:59 | what is the advantage of innodb_file_per_table? | |
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| 09:01 | UBPL1 | yes 'Mon' to the Mongolian. |
| 09:02 | eythian | mtompset: no they don't |
| 09:02 | mtompset: if you don't have that, your database will never get smaller on disk | |
| 09:03 | mtompset | Oh. |
| 09:03 | So if I grow the DB to 1TB, and then delete all records. | |
| 09:03 | It will still be 1TB? | |
| 09:05 | UBPL1, I don't have Mongolian installed, so I don't know the lang and subtag values it is. | |
| 09:05 | Otherwise, I would tell you the MySQL UPDATE statement expressly. | |
| 09:07 | UBPL1 | please... |
| 09:07 | you can see web from http://koha.pl.ub.gov.mn | |
| 09:08 | if you write help, i will try it | |
| 09:10 | mtompset | Do you know how to start MySQL? |
| 09:11 | mysql -u <user> -p | |
| 09:11 | Did you install from packages? | |
| 09:11 | UBPL1 | okay |
| 09:12 | mtompset | Sorry... I can't... There's too much room for messing up. |
| 09:14 | It's the end of my day, and I'm exhausted. | |
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| 09:14 | UBPL1 | okay, can you send guide via email to me. |
| 09:15 | mtompset | No, sorry. |
| 09:15 | rajes | hi! I'm still in the learning curve. Kindly please assist me. |
| 09:16 | UBPL1 | no problem |
| 09:16 | thanks. | |
| 09:18 | rajes | the system shows ( Software error: Tag "0" is not a valid tag. at/backup/vhost/homelibrary/lib/C4/Biblio.pm line 2265 ) pls guide how to solve this. tq |
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| 09:24 | rajes | hi there anyone can assist |
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| 10:11 | mtompset_away | Anyone familiar with the use of rebuild_zebra_sliced? |
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| 11:15 | jcamins_away | @later tell kf Could you please rebase 8523 against master? Your squashed patch won't apply for me. |
| 11:15 | huginn | jcamins_away: The operation succeeded. |
| 11:26 | jcamins_away | @later tell kf Never mind. Spoke too soon. I was in the wrong repo. |
| 11:26 | huginn | jcamins_away: The operation succeeded. |
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| 11:36 | jcamins | paul_p: I just noticed a typo in the update for 3.09.00.031. It has extra quote marks. Do you want a patch? |
| 11:37 | paul_p | hi #koha |
| 11:37 | jcamins | Also, good morning. :) |
| 11:37 | * paul_p | investigating bug 8089 ... |
| 11:37 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8089 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Signed Off , Use Koha::Cache everywhere |
| 11:37 | paul_p | (morning ended here ;-) ) |
| 11:37 | jcamins | Yeah, the error you got doesn't relate to that patch. |
| 11:37 | paul_p | jcamins = could you try to modify a patron (withou bug 8089 applied). Does it work for you ? |
| 11:37 | joubu just tested, and he has the problem | |
| 11:37 | I have it | |
| 11:38 | probably a new BLO :-\ | |
| 11:38 | jcamins | No, of course it doesn't work. That's what the patch is for. |
| 11:38 | There is a signed off patch which fixes this problem. | |
| 11:38 | paul_p | jcamins = which patch ? |
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| 11:38 | jcamins | The follow-up on bug 8089. |
| 11:38 | kf | hi #koha |
| 11:38 | jcamins: so all ok now? | |
| 11:38 | jcamins | kf: yes. |
| 11:39 | paul_p | jcamins = well, i've applied the patch/follow-up, and it still does not work for me |
| 11:39 | jcamins | paul_p: hm. With the follow-up it works for me. |
| 11:40 | You could simply revert 8089. It's not a terribly important patch, and dpavlin is planning to do a much more comprehensive job of it. | |
| 11:41 | paul_p | jcamins = the query that is built is = UPDATE borrowers |
| 11:41 | SET borrowers.altcontactcountry = ? , borrowers.firstname = ? , borrowers.gonenoaddress = ? , borrowers.categorycode = ? , borrowers.othernames = ? , borrowers.B_address = ? , borrowers.contactnote = ? , borrowers.state = ? , borrowers.dateofbirth = ? , borrowers.altcontactaddress2 = ? , borrowers.email = ? , borrowers.debarred = ? , borrowers.B_state = ? , borrowers.B_country = ? , borrowers.B_address2 = ? , borrowers.address = ? , borrowers | |
| 11:41 | .borrowernumber = ? , borrowers.streetnumber = ? , borrowers.branchcode = ? , borrowers.lost = ? , borrowers.surname = ? , borrowers.cardnumber = ? , borrowers.streettype = ? , borrowers.altcontactaddress3 = ? , borrowers.title = ? , borrowers.altcontactsurname = ? , borrowers.altcontactzipcode = ? , borrowers.opacnote = ? , borrowers.altcontactfirstname = ? , borrowers.userid = ? , borrowers.B_zipcode = ? , borrowers.B_email = ? , borrowers.mobile = ? , b | |
| 11:41 | orrowers.city = ? , borrowers.B_phone = ? , borrowers.fax = ? , borrowers.altcontactphone = ? , borrowers.debarredcomment = ? , borrowers.country = ? , borrowers.sort1 = ? , borrowers.dateenrolled = ? , borrowers.altcontactstate = ? , borrowers.altcontactaddress1 = ? , borrowers.sex = ? , borrowers.zipcode = ? , borrowers.phone = ? , borrowers.address2 = ? , borrowers.B_city = ? , borrowers.borrowernotes = ? , borrowers.dateexpiry = ? , borrowers.sort2 = ? | |
| 11:41 | , borrowers.phonepro = ? , borrowers.emailpro = ? | |
| 11:41 | kf | oups |
| 11:41 | paul_p | WHERE =? |
| 11:41 | WHERE =? is the culprit | |
| 11:42 | jcamins | paul_p: that query is not built on my system. |
| 11:42 | paul_p | GetPrimaryKeys did not return anything |
| 11:42 | jcamins | It does for me... |
| 11:42 | paul_p | jcamins = show create table borrowers says what ? |
| 11:42 | mine says: ..., `privacy` int(11) NOT NULL DEFAULT '1', | |
| 11:42 | PRIMARY KEY (`borrowernumber`), | |
| 11:42 | UNIQUE KEY `cardnumber` (`cardnumber`), | |
| 11:42 | KEY `categorycode` (`categorycode`), | |
| 11:42 | KEY `branchcode` (`branchcode`), | |
| 11:42 | KEY `userid` (`userid`), | |
| 11:42 | KEY `guarantorid` (`guarantorid`), | |
| 11:43 | CONSTRAINT `borrowers_ibfk_1` FOREIGN KEY (`categorycode`) REFERENCES `categories` (`categorycode`), | |
| 11:43 | CONSTRAINT `borrowers_ibfk_2` FOREIGN KEY (`branchcode`) REFERENCES `branches` (`branchcode`) | |
| 11:43 | ) ENGINE=InnoDB AUTO_INCREMENT=7856 DEFAULT CHARSET=utf8 | | |
| 11:43 | (sounds correct) | |
| 11:44 | pastebot | "jcamins" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "paul_p: show create table borrowers" (81 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/170 |
| 11:45 | jcamins | What specifically are you trying to edit in the borrower? |
| 11:45 | Maybe that makes a difference. | |
| 11:45 | I changed name and phone number. | |
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| 11:46 | paul_p | jcamins = when reverting the 3 patches, everything is OK again |
| 11:46 | jcamins = I try to edit the surname | |
| 11:46 | jcamins | paul_p: in that case I'd just go ahead and do that. |
| 11:48 | I had meant to change that bug back to ASSIGNED instead of "Needs Signoff" anyway, because dpavlin said he'd redo caching to be even better. :) | |
| 11:48 | paul_p: wait, did you restart memcached? | |
| 11:49 | I did before testing the follow-up. | |
| 11:49 | paul_p | jcamins = I stopped it ! |
| 11:49 | jcamins | Okay. |
| 11:49 | Yeah, revert. | |
| 11:49 | paul_p | ok, revert in a few minuts (jus writing a urgent mail, then back to pushing for the rest of the day) |
| 11:49 | jcamins | :) |
| 11:49 | paul_p | (and, it's no more morning here ;-) ) |
| 11:49 | jcamins | paul_p: I refuse to acknowledge the approaching of afternoon. |
| 11:50 | It's morning!!!! | |
| 11:50 | paul_p | not sure rangi would agree :D :D |
| 11:50 | jcamins | Morning! |
| 11:50 | wahanui | morning is a state of mind. or whenever the cat wants breakfast. |
| 11:51 | jcamins | Hm. Missing '--' in the OPAC authority viewer. |
| 11:52 | * mtompset | smirks, "Wrong repo." |
| 11:52 | mtompset | Wow... that's a killer query! |
| 11:53 | greetings, kf jcamins paul_p | |
| 11:53 | jcamins | mtompset: yeah, SQLHelper does things like that. |
| 11:57 | * kf | waves |
| 11:57 | kf | on phone :) |
| 12:04 | mtompset | Okay, I've been hacking on these install instructions all day... almost there. |
| 12:04 | This Upgrade Instruction section bugs me... | |
| 12:05 | It suggests running the misc/maintenance... and misc/migration_tools from the build directory. | |
| 12:05 | Which means the person is not the user doing the normal zebra indexing. | |
| 12:06 | Is this better? su -c "misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -b -a -r -v" koha | |
| 12:07 | jcamins | mtompset: the other scripts don't have to be run by the same user. |
| 12:08 | mtompset | But rebuild_zebra should be run as koha, right? |
| 12:08 | jcamins | Right. |
| 12:09 | mtompset | You're right... I was being overly cautious. |
| 12:10 | Upgrade instructions don't make sense in terms of a git/dev install, right? | |
| 12:10 | It's just a sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get upgrade | |
| 12:11 | Oops... I mean packages. | |
| 12:11 | And a git/dev install is just a git pull away from upgrading. | |
| 12:12 | jcamins | mtompset: no, that is not correct. |
| 12:12 | You have to rerun the Makefile and make install. | |
| 12:13 | mtompset | for the git? |
| 12:14 | Only if you answered standard off a git. | |
| 12:15 | for a tarball, yes. | |
| 12:16 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_8089' <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a602c3c9d7f8bee47> / Revert "Bug 8089: Use Koha::Cache for all caching" <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]aee21342a28ad9598> / Revert "Bug 8089: Cache sysprefs using Koha::Cache" <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]?p=koha.git;a=com |
| 12:17 | jcamins | mtompset: no, always. |
| 12:17 | mtompset | Even for packages? |
| 12:17 | How? | |
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| 12:17 | jcamins | Not for packages. |
| 12:17 | For git. | |
| 12:17 | You always have to run Makefile.PL, make, and make install for git. | |
| 12:18 | mtompset | Why? |
| 12:18 | jcamins | (there are actually exceptions to that rule, but we're not going into them) |
| 12:18 | To update your Zebra configuration. | |
| 12:18 | mtompset | That makes sense. |
| 12:20 | because the koha-dev directory is outside the git repo. | |
| 12:20 | and a git pull is not sufficient to update it with changes in those files. | |
| 12:21 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
| 12:24 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #820 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #773 2 mo 9 days ago) |
| 12:27 | mtompset | Greetings, oleonard. |
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| 12:41 | tcohen | ih oKha |
| 12:41 | mtompset | Greetings, tcohen |
| 12:42 | tcohen | hi mtompset |
| 12:47 | oleonard | paul_p: Revision to Bug 7500 (social networks) submitted, rebased and redundant images removed |
| 12:47 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7500 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Passed QA , Use CSS Sprites for faster page loading |
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| 12:50 | paul_p | oleonard++ |
| 12:50 | thanks, will test & push asap | |
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| 13:07 | jcamins | paul_p: just FYI, the patch on bug 8300 provides a mechanized test of the functionality provided by bug 2600. |
| 13:07 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8300 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , Koha should have mechanized testing suite |
| 13:07 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2600 critical, P3, ---, oleonard, RESOLVED FIXED, HTML tags in titles not escaped in many places | |
| 13:07 | jcamins | *bug 2060 |
| 13:07 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2060 enhancement, P3, ---, jcamins, Passed QA , Ability to import Authorities from Staff Client |
| 13:08 | * jcamins | is pleased to report that the test on bug 8300 now works with UNIMARC *and* MARC21. :) |
| 13:09 | oleonard | khall around? |
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| 13:16 | oleonard | Is there anyone around who can help explain how "fine in days" works in practice? |
| 13:16 | If I have overdues which should trigger a fine in days, the nightly overdues process finds them and sets my borrowers.debarred to a date? | |
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| 13:27 | oleonard | Ah, no. The suspension is added when the item is returned. |
| 13:29 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #820: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 5 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/820/ |
| 13:29 | * Paul Poulain: Revert "Bug 8089: Correct cache timeout to 1000" | |
| 13:29 | * Paul Poulain: Revert "Bug 8089: Cache sysprefs using Koha::Cache" | |
| 13:29 | * Paul Poulain: Revert "Bug 8089: Use Koha::Cache for all caching" | |
| 13:29 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8089 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED , Use Koha::Cache everywhere |
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| 13:30 | oleonard | So when is the suspension lifted? Or does the expired date stay in borrowers.debarred but is ignored? |
| 13:32 | I guess it stays? CheckBorrowerDebarred queries for debarred > NOW() | |
| 13:36 | Hah, and SIP thinks you're debarred even if your debarred date < NOW(). | |
| 13:36 | I guess (users of Fine in Days) does not intersect with (users of SIP) | |
| 13:37 | mtompset | You'll have to be pretty accurate to get that split-second timing. ;) |
| 13:37 | oleonard | I don't understand what you mean mtompset |
| 13:38 | mtompset | It missed the = NOW() case. ;) |
| 13:44 | Do we have any documentation on general networking setup for Koha? | |
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| 13:48 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8708 [Revised] RSS feed for new comments is broken <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a3cbce1b630edec55> / Bug 5911 follow-up DBRev number <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]325bb909d8bcf8587> / bug_5911: Transport Cost Matrix <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]6d4f60b70531bd0ab |
| 13:53 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #821 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #773 2 mo 9 days ago) |
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| 14:10 | kf | hmpf no drojf |
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| 14:28 | paul_p | there are customers that are really ... which word should I use ...hopeless ? |
| 14:29 | (fortunately, that's only a very few of them...) | |
| 14:30 | alex_a | paul_p: useless ? |
| 14:30 | :D | |
| 14:30 | kf | paul_p: demanding? :) |
| 14:31 | paul_p | kf = some are demanding, that's true. But some are really hopeless, and that's totally different |
| 14:31 | kf | heh |
| 14:32 | * paul_p | just spend 40 mn on phone with one of them, trying to explain things for the 2000th time, and I feel he still misunderstand (if he understand something) |
| 14:33 | mtompset | Reminds me of at least one person on the mailing list. ;) |
| 14:34 | alex_a | paul_p: be careful, he may be there :p |
| 14:34 | It would be fun :D | |
| 14:35 | paul_p | alex_a = not sure for the invoice... |
| 14:36 | alex_a | mmh yes |
| 14:36 | not fun | |
| 14:36 | SJeffery | Hey, some of us ARE customers :) |
| 14:37 | kf | customers are human |
| 14:37 | bag | good morning |
| 14:37 | kf | so you get all the variety of life :) |
| 14:38 | like everywhere else | |
| 14:38 | maybe the problem was that paul was speaking french *hides* | |
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| 14:46 | * wizzyrea | wonders what paul was trying to explain |
| 14:51 | paul_p | bug 5911 |
| 14:51 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5911 enhancement, P3, ---, srdjan, Pushed to Master , Transport Cost Matrix of transporting an item between branches |
| 14:52 | paul_p | SJeffery = I know, and we couldn't live without customers. But there are a few customers, that, frankly, we would not complain to loose... (fortunately, that's only 1 or 2 on 50+ ...) |
| 14:52 | kf = the problem is that this customer is also speaking french. I should try english... that could be fun... | |
| 14:54 | wizzyrea = it's not related to Koha. It's related to our contract with them (a contract where we're sub-contractors. The library don't understand that some things are unknown by us and must be managed by the other contractor). In this project, we've Koha + another tool, and the problem is in the other tool... | |
| 14:54 | wizzyrea | ohhhhh |
| 14:54 | yuck | |
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| 14:59 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #821: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 5 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/821/ |
| 14:59 | * nengard: Bug 8412: add color icon set | |
| 14:59 | * srdjan: bug_5911: Transport Cost Matrix | |
| 14:59 | * Paul Poulain: Bug 5911 follow-up DBRev number | |
| 14:59 | * oleonard: Bug 8708 [Revised] RSS feed for new comments is broken | |
| 14:59 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8412 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nengard, Pushed to Master , add color icon set |
| 14:59 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5911 enhancement, P3, ---, srdjan, Pushed to Master , Transport Cost Matrix of transporting an item between branches | |
| 14:59 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8708 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , RSS feed for new comments is broken | |
| 14:59 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #822 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #773 2 mo 9 days ago) |
| 15:00 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5911 follow-up DBREv number <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]191977be358e576a3> / Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_8251' <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]696b40e8e033dda32> / Bug 8251 Do not try to debar patrons if returns are not overdue <http://git.koha-community.org/[…].git;a=commitdiff |
| 15:05 | reiveune | bye |
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| 15:09 | mtompset | Good night, #koha. |
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| 15:24 | oleonard | Is there some ambiguity in what should be done and by whom when a Jenkins test fails? |
| 15:25 | kf | I think best would be not pushing patches that break it, woud force people to fix before it happens |
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| 15:25 | jcamins | oleonard: the new breakages are due to updatedatabase not having been run. |
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| 15:48 | oleonard | Ugh, my brain is tired of thinking about Bug 2720 |
| 15:48 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2720 enhancement, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Overdues which debar automatically should undebar automatically when returned |
| 15:49 | * McCloud[A] | is now away - Reason : Auto-Away after 30 minutes |
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| 15:52 | Oak | Ahoy me hearties |
| 15:52 | oleonard | Hi Oak |
| 15:52 | Oak | can anyone answer these? http://lists.katipo.co.nz/publ[…]March/022881.html |
| 15:52 | hello oleonard :) | |
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| 16:04 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #822: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 5 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/822/ |
| 16:04 | * oleonard: Bug 8496 - show local cover images on lists view in opac | |
| 16:04 | * colin.campbell: Bug 8251 Do not try to debar patrons if returns are not overdue | |
| 16:04 | * Paul Poulain: Bug 5911 follow-up DBREv number | |
| 16:04 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8496 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , show local cover images on lists view in opac |
| 16:04 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8251 critical, P1 - high, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Master , Patrons are systematically debarred at checkin | |
| 16:04 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5911 enhancement, P3, ---, srdjan, Pushed to Master , Transport Cost Matrix of transporting an item between branches | |
| 16:11 | maximep | paul_p: do you have colors.css in opaccolorstylesheet ? (in reply to bug 8597) |
| 16:11 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8597 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, fcapovilla, Failed QA , New theme for the OPAC with a mobile view |
| 16:11 | paul_p | hi maximep nope. |
| 16:11 | maximep | you have to |
| 16:12 | jcamins | Did I know about colors.css? |
| 16:12 | Oh. | |
| 16:12 | Yes. | |
| 16:12 | I did. | |
| 16:12 | maximep | a bit weird that I did it this way, but I didn't know better at that time hehe |
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| 16:12 | jcamins | Somewhere at the beginning of the bug is a grouchy comment from me that it looked hideous and could you please send the patch with your changes. ;) |
| 16:12 | paul_p | maximep = works much better. although I feel it should be documented & maybe improved. |
| 16:13 | (and there is some glitches for me) | |
| 16:13 | jcamins | paul_p: agreed. I said that in my slightly-less-grouchy response, I think. |
| 16:13 | paul_p | jcamins = I read all the comments, should have missed that |
| 16:13 | * paul_p | dreams that it's possible to edit description in bugzilla ... |
| 16:13 | jcamins | paul_p: perhaps it was just on IRC. |
| 16:13 | maximep | well now that it's a different theme, it should be alright to move everything in opac.css |
| 16:13 | paul_p | (there's a patch for that, but not accepted by bugzilla community :(((( = |
| 16:14 | maximep | or even ccsr.css and ass it directly at the same place as we added mobile |
| 16:15 | *add | |
| 16:15 | jcamins | paul_p: you can change the title. |
| 16:16 | paul_p | jcamins & maximep = it's related to Quote Of The day |
| 16:16 | OK, time to go back home for me, I promized my wife to come back early, and it's already 6:20 PM here | |
| 16:16 | see you tomorrow | |
| 16:17 | oleonard | Bye paul_p |
| 16:17 | maximep | cya |
| 16:17 | jcamins | paul_p: perhaps add a note that QotD doesn't look so good with the new theme, and make maximep provide a follow-up? ;) |
| 16:18 | maximep | I didn't know there was a qotd feature :S |
| 16:18 | jcamins | Yup. |
| 16:18 | It's very cool. | |
| 16:18 | paul_p | jcamins yes, it probably require a tiny follow-up to hide QOTD |
| 16:18 | jcamins | paul_p: or to change the display. |
| 16:18 | * jcamins | has custom CSS for the QotD to make it more unobtrusive, and it worked fine. |
| 16:19 | jcamins | But rebasing that one has been a great challenge, and it's usable as it is now, if you disable the quotes. |
| 16:23 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8028 - Followup <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]3cf48ae6f91488065> / Bug 8028 - Make table collapsing on parcel.pl sticky - Hide link for 5 or fewer items. <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]56371526b0b740c69> / Bug 8028 - Make table collapsing on parcel.pl sticky <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git |
| 16:23 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #823 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #773 2 mo 10 days ago) |
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| 16:58 | Oliver_Spain | hi |
| 16:58 | i need help with koha configurate for library consortium | |
| 16:59 | someone know any documentation about? | |
| 16:59 | excuse me for my english xDD | |
| 16:59 | wahanui | Oliver_Spain: Sales staff sold a product we don't offer. |
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| 16:59 | jcamins | Oliver_Spain: wahanui is a bot. I have no idea where that response came from. |
| 17:00 | manual? | |
| 17:00 | wahanui | manual is at http://www.koha-community.org/documentation |
| 17:00 | Oliver_Spain | ok thanks |
| 17:00 | jcamins | ^^ that's the manual, which is a good first step |
| 17:00 | Oliver_Spain | yes i have the manual |
| 17:00 | and i read it | |
| 17:00 | configure my koha like independet branches | |
| 17:01 | but i have problems because i want that each staff patron only can edit the bibliographic records of his own libraries | |
| 17:02 | and i don't know how do it | |
| 17:02 | jcamins | I don't know anything about IndependentBranches, sorry. Someone else might, though. |
| 17:02 | Oliver_Spain | thanks |
| 17:02 | oleonard | Oliver_Spain: It should be the case that each staff member can only edit *items* from their branch, but bibliographic records are not tied to a specific branch |
| 17:03 | ...as far as I know | |
| 17:03 | kf | Oliver_Spain: you can't to id for bibliographic records, only for items |
| 17:03 | do it... | |
| 17:03 | jcamins | oleonard: oh, you're right. I missed that detail. |
| 17:03 | * jcamins | was thinking "items." |
| 17:03 | kf | what oleonard phrased much better :) |
| 17:03 | Oliver_Spain | ok |
| 17:04 | the problem is that staff patron (with permiss to do it) can edit bibliogrpahic records catalog in other library | |
| 17:05 | :S | |
| 17:05 | jcamins | Oliver_Spain: yes, that's the way it's supposed to work. If you want catalogs completely separate, you should set up a separate catalog for each library. |
| 17:05 | Packages make that easy. | |
| 17:05 | Packages? | |
| 17:05 | wahanui | Packages is probably at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian |
| 17:06 | Oliver_Spain | humm... |
| 17:08 | and its posible define that one librarian can edit items of group of libraries (and only for this group)? | |
| 17:08 | jcamins | No. |
| 17:08 | You can't have it both ways. | |
| 17:09 | Oliver_Spain | it's complicate configure koha to consortium |
| 17:09 | with diferent levels | |
| 17:09 | :( | |
| 17:09 | jcamins | Oliver_Spain: it can be, yes. |
| 17:10 | Oliver_Spain | ok thanks a lot |
| 17:10 | jcamins | Oliver_Spain: wait, you said items that last time. |
| 17:10 | Oliver_Spain: sorry, I got confused. | |
| 17:10 | Oliver_Spain | yes items for a group |
| 17:10 | only for his own group | |
| 17:10 | jcamins | I was still thinking about bibliographic records. |
| 17:11 | I think usually what people do is give one librarian multiple users, one for each library they manage. | |
| 17:12 | Oliver_Spain | humm |
| 17:12 | i don't like xD | |
| 17:12 | jcamins | That's if they insist on using IndependentBranches. |
| 17:12 | Oliver_Spain | yes |
| 17:12 | i have a lot of libraries | |
| 17:13 | i can't let it edit (or add) items from other libraries | |
| 17:13 | jcamins | wizzyrea: do you use IndependentBranches? |
| 17:13 | Oliver_Spain | i need independent branchs |
| 17:13 | jcamins | (wizzyrea works for a consortium too) |
| 17:14 | Oliver_Spain | thanks |
| 17:16 | another question it's posible give permission to capturate from z39.50 but not edit bibliographic records? | |
| 17:17 | jcamins | Oliver_Spain: no. There's no separate permission for adding (as opposed to editing) bib records. |
| 17:18 | Oliver_Spain | ok thanks a lot of jcamins ;) |
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| 17:21 | * Oak | waves to the crickets |
| 17:21 | Oak | kia ora #koha |
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| 17:29 | * kyle: Bug 8028 - Make table collapsing on parcel.pl sticky | |
| 17:29 | * kyle: Bug 8028 - Make table collapsing on parcel.pl sticky - Hide link for 5 or fewer items. | |
| 17:29 | * kyle: Bug 8028 - Followup | |
| 17:30 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8028 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , Make table collapsing on parcel.pl sticky |
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| 17:53 | oleonard | Hm, the transport_cost table was created fine on my test machine |
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| 17:56 | bag | mine too |
| 17:56 | I think that was a jenkins error? | |
| 17:59 | rangi | no |
| 17:59 | if it can happen once, it can happen again | |
| 18:00 | bag | :) at least you didn't NO me |
| 18:00 | heh | |
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| 18:02 | * oleonard | wonders about this line added in updatedatabase.pl: "CHECK ( `frombranch` <> `tobranch` ), -- a dud check, mysql does not support that" |
| 18:02 | rangi | its not that |
| 18:02 | its the foreign key constraints | |
| 18:02 | oleonard | What does that mean? |
| 18:03 | rangi | if i take them out, it can create the table |
| 18:06 | jcamins | rangi: oh, I thought the problem was a missing syspref. |
| 18:06 | rangi | what mysql version are you running? |
| 18:08 | oleonard | I've got 5.5.24-0ubuntu0.12.04.1 |
| 18:08 | rangi | jenkins is running 5.1 |
| 18:08 | i wonder if thats the difference | |
| 18:10 | bbiab | |
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| 18:45 | oleonard | I really need to leave myself better notes. Why did I stop working on this branch? Ran out of time? Got bored? Insurmountable problem I can't recall? |
| 18:45 | cait | which branch is it? :) |
| 18:46 | oleonard | Bug 8535 |
| 18:46 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8535 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Granular permission for viewing patron information |
| 18:46 | cait | hm |
| 18:46 | probably we couldn't agree on it | |
| 18:47 | hm although... it doesn't look so bad | |
| 18:47 | oleonard | I don't think we discussed it. I probably worked on it until my brain hurt and then quit. |
| 18:47 | cait | maybe you wanted to introduce accordeon there too? :) |
| 18:47 | that's also an option :) | |
| 18:47 | oleonard | :) |
| 18:48 | Anyway, I guess I shouldn't start testing it again when I have to leave in 15 min. | |
| 18:48 | cait | hm yeah, sounds not reasonable :) |
| 18:48 | or you will end up like me and have to drive home on the dark | |
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| 18:58 | oleonard | Bye #koha |
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| 19:15 | rangi | @wunder nzwn |
| 19:15 | huginn | rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 4.0°C (7:00 AM NZST on September 13, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady). |
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| 19:25 | cait | good morning rangi |
| 19:25 | @wunder Konstanz | |
| 19:25 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 9.4°C (9:25 PM CEST on September 12, 2012). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 90%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Windchill: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady). |
| 19:25 | drojf | @wunder berlin, germany |
| 19:25 | huginn | drojf: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is 15.2°C (9:12 PM CEST on September 12, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady). |
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| 19:38 | rangi | My stop bbiab |
| 19:41 | bag | @wunder Santa Barbara, CA |
| 19:41 | huginn | bag: The current temperature in Near Mission - TC, Santa Barbara, California is 24.0°C (12:41 PM PDT on September 12, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Falling). |
| 19:41 | bag | I think melia sent her weather down here - cloudy :( |
| 19:42 | cait | it's a lot warmer than here - don't complain! |
| 19:42 | :) | |
| 19:42 | melia | yup. cloudy here, too. |
| 19:42 | bag | heh sorry cait |
| 19:42 | jcamins | @wunder 11375 |
| 19:42 | huginn | jcamins: The current temperature in Middle Village, Queens, New York is 25.4°C (3:40 PM EDT on September 12, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 42%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.32 in 1026 hPa (Steady). |
| 19:42 | jcamins | Huh. |
| 19:42 | It seemed so much nicer out. | |
| 19:42 | bag | oh nice day in queens |
| 19:43 | jcamins | Yup. |
| 19:43 | Not quite as nice as yesterday, but still not bad. | |
| 19:43 | wizzyrea | @wunder 66049 |
| 19:43 | huginn | wizzyrea: The current temperature in Jeff's Weather Lab, Lawrence, Kansas is 34.0°C (2:43 PM CDT on September 12, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 39%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Falling). |
| 19:43 | wizzyrea | warmish |
| 19:43 | bag | HOT |
| 19:43 | wizzyrea | ok fine. |
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| 19:43 | bag | I'd melt |
| 19:43 | cait | me too |
| 19:44 | wizzyrea | I guess kansans are made of tougher stuff. :P |
| 19:44 | cait | pff |
| 19:44 | wizzyrea | :) |
| 19:44 | bag | no no I totally agree - I'm a wuss now |
| 19:50 | rangi | back |
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| 19:52 | gib56 | hello |
| 19:52 | elliott? | |
| 19:53 | jcamins | libsysguy_calendar: I think you are being summoned. |
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| 19:53 | jcamins | gib56: if you have a question about Koha, you should probably ask generally. |
| 19:53 | gib56 | well, actually i just need some help |
| 19:53 | jcamins | (i.e. not directed to a specific person) |
| 19:54 | gib56 | a librarian is trying to create a label batch |
| 19:54 | in Manage Staged MARC records | |
| 19:54 | and it gives this error | |
| 19:54 | Error attempting to create label batch. Please ask your system administrator to check the log for more details. | |
| 19:55 | jcamins | gib56: I don't use labels, but it sounds like you should check your log. |
| 19:56 | That might give us something to go on. | |
| 19:57 | gib56 | I am very new to Koha |
| 19:57 | so, I am assuming I am going to Var > Log | |
| 19:59 | jcamins | Probably /var/log/koha, but it depends how Koha was installed. |
| 20:01 | gib56 | thank you |
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| 20:09 | gib56 | hello |
| 20:09 | wahanui | hi, gib56 |
| 20:10 | gib56 | is anybody having issues with creating label batches? |
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| 20:11 | dcook | Allo #koha |
| 20:11 | gib56 | that's under Tools > Manage staged MARC records |
| 20:11 | jcamins | gib56: did you find out what the logs said? |
| 20:12 | Also, you know that label batches are handled by a separate label tool, right? | |
| 20:12 | gib56 | i did go to logs |
| 20:12 | and to be honest, I have no idea what to look for | |
| 20:12 | jcamins | Errors. |
| 20:13 | You'll recognize one if you see it. | |
| 20:13 | dcook | Can someone checkout the current master branch in their git? When I take a look at my opac-tmpl folder, I see "lib" next to "prog", when I look in this "lib" directory...it's the yui lib which should be in the "en" directory |
| 20:13 | gib56 | i see a fail2ban.log.2.gz |
| 20:13 | jcamins | dcook: yui has been moved. |
| 20:13 | gib56 | but that was from sept 2 |
| 20:13 | jcamins | gib56: that's not your Koha log. |
| 20:13 | You could also check in ~/koha-dev/var/log | |
| 20:14 | cait | dcook: it's all ok - it's a feature not a bug :) |
| 20:14 | rangi | or /var/log/apache2/ |
| 20:14 | gib56 | yep, am in koha-dev right now |
| 20:14 | dcook | Thanks, jcamins and cait. I just realized that I was checking against the koha38 branch on the community website *facepalm* |
| 20:15 | Actually...no I'm not.. | |
| 20:15 | Or.. | |
| 20:15 | cait | dcook: it's a very recent change |
| 20:15 | rangi | dcook its supposed to be there |
| 20:15 | not in en | |
| 20:15 | dcook | I believe you :) |
| 20:16 | rangi | cos its not language dependent |
| 20:16 | or even theme dependent | |
| 20:16 | dcook | For some reason when I look at the git website now, it agrees with you guys. I'm starting to doubt my brainmeats |
| 20:16 | gib56 | q |
| 20:16 | dcook | It's good logic. That's what I figured when I first saw that it was moved :p |
| 20:17 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 20:17 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 10.0°C (10:00 PM CEST on September 12, 2012). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Rising). |
| 20:18 | gib56 | under var > log |
| 20:18 | i did see koha-error_log | |
| 20:19 | and koha-opac-error_log | |
| 20:19 | jcamins | Look in koha-error_log |
| 20:20 | gib56 | it's very big |
| 20:20 | it will take a while to open | |
| 20:20 | jcamins | You can just use tail. |
| 20:21 | Also, that's a problem. | |
| 20:21 | It indicates there's something wrong. | |
| 20:21 | rangi | jcamins: most likely is not logrotated |
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| 20:22 | jcamins | rangi: oh, because it's in ~. Of course. |
| 20:22 | rangi | yep |
| 20:22 | jcamins | Well, that on its own is a problem. |
| 20:22 | rangi | yep |
| 20:22 | gib56 | uummmm...eh? |
| 20:24 | * jcamins | closes up shop for the day. |
| 20:31 | bag | bug 5786 |
| 20:31 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5786 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, Signed Off , Move AllowOnShelfHolds system preference to the Circulation Matrix |
| 20:39 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #166 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: FIXED) |
| 20:39 | bag | hey rangi - I may have missed it - but was the jenkins error based on having an older mysql? or do you still think this is a problem |
| 20:39 | for the transport_cost table | |
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| 20:40 | rangi | havent tracked it down, but if it can fail for that, then it may well fail on others |
| 20:42 | bag | agreed - I'm just trying to think of ways that I can repeat it |
| 20:42 | I may have an older VM kicking around | |
| 20:54 | * dcook | wishes that there were some simple bugs to sign off, so that he wasn't making the bug sign off list ever larger |
| 21:00 | trea joined #koha | |
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| 21:07 | bag | dcook: it's also a good chance to learn about a new module.. that's how I first learned acq and serials - by trying test patches (and failing) |
| 21:07 | actually I think I learned everything by failing | |
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| 21:13 | dcook | Hehe. I certainly learned quite a bit by failing too |
| 21:13 | It's just that I don't have a lot of time at the moment, as I'm only doing 1.5 days a week. | |
| 21:14 | I suppose contributing bugs/patches is better than nothing. | |
| 21:18 | jcamins | dcook: definitely. :) |
| 21:19 | bag | agreed :) |
| 21:20 | jcamins | Myshkin says chin scratching is a superior contribution, though. |
| 21:21 | bag | last night Aloo thought throwing up on the rug deserved at least two sign-offs |
| 21:27 | rangi | i think oliver martin should go with evergreen |
| 21:28 | jcamins | Yeah, does sound more appropriate for his needs. |
| 21:30 | bag | dont' you mean cromwell cromwell |
| 21:31 | rangi | heh |
| 21:31 | could be his level2 cache is full | |
| 21:33 | mtj | haay, thats my punchline! |
| 21:33 | rangi | hehe |
| 21:33 | its such a good one | |
| 21:33 | i really enjoyed wahanui chipping in earlier | |
| 21:34 | 04:59 < Oliver_Spain> excuse me for my english xDD | |
| 21:34 | 04:59 < wahanui> Oliver_Spain: Sales staff sold a product we don't offer. | |
| 21:34 | excuse me for my shoes | |
| 21:34 | wahanui | rangi: ether leak |
| 21:34 | rangi | heh |
| 21:34 | jcamins | lol |
| 21:34 | I wondered where that came from. | |
| 21:35 | cait | excuse? |
| 21:35 | wahanui | cait: The CPU has shifted, and become decentralized. |
| 21:35 | bag | oh hey mtj |
| 21:35 | cait | night all :) |
| 21:35 | jcamins | Night. |
| 21:35 | cait | jcamins: you wanted to stop working earlier |
| 21:35 | jcamins | cait: I did leave. |
| 21:35 | I'm at home now, so I can do other work. | |
| 21:36 | cait | and you came back :) |
| 21:36 | mtj | 'shell variables become destabilized, with 64-bit endiness' |
| 21:36 | cait | oh. |
| 21:36 | I am relaly leaving :) | |
| 21:36 | jcamins | mtj: that's pretty great. |
| 21:37 | mtj | morning #koha |
| 21:41 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.8.x build #166: SUCCESS in 1 hr 2 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.8.x/166/ |
| 21:41 | oleonard: Bug 8708 [Revised] RSS feed for new comments is broken | |
| 21:42 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8708 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , RSS feed for new comments is broken |
| 21:42 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #167 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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| 22:04 | rangi | excuse |
| 22:04 | wahanui | rangi: It must have been the lightning storm we had (yesterday) (last week) (last month) |
| 22:04 | rangi | excuse |
| 22:04 | wahanui | rangi: the xy axis in the trackball is coordinated with the summer solstice |
| 22:04 | rangi | excuse |
| 22:04 | wahanui | rangi: Our ISP is having {switching,routing,SMDS,frame relay} problems |
| 22:07 | rangi | (i needed one for a tweet) |
| 22:07 | edveal left #koha | |
| 22:08 | mtj | L2-cache pipeline saturation, causes zebra-indexing fault |
| 22:10 | yoar welcome :) | |
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| 22:44 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.8.x build #167: SUCCESS in 1 hr 2 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.8.x/167/ |
| 22:44 | colin.campbell: Bug 8251 Do not try to debar patrons if returns are not overdue | |
| 22:44 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8251 critical, P1 - high, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Stable , Patrons are systematically debarred at checkin |
| 22:45 | rangi | glad got that one in |
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| 22:49 | mtompset | @quote 123 |
| 22:49 | huginn | mtompset: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready |
| 22:49 | mtompset | Is that really quote 123? |
| 22:49 | jcamins | @quote get 123 |
| 22:49 | huginn | jcamins: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) |
| 22:49 | mtompset | Thank you, jcamins. |
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| 22:55 | bag | bug 5786 |
| 22:55 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5786 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, Signed Off , Move AllowOnShelfHolds system preference to the Circulation Matrix |
| 22:56 | rangi | hehe poodle |
| 23:11 | hehe | |
| 23:12 | i like poodle better :) | |
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| 23:46 | mtompset | poodle? |
| 23:57 | drojf | excuse |
| 23:57 | wahanui | drojf: backup tape overwritten with copy of system manager's favourite CD |
| 23:57 | drojf | excuse |
| 23:57 | wahanui | drojf: Software uses US measurements, but the OS is in metric... |
| 23:58 | drojf | can i add excuses too? it needs "my bot ate it" ;) |
| 23:59 | jcamins | excuse! |
| 23:59 | wahanui | jcamins: Your Pentium has a heating problem - try cooling it with ice cold water.(Do not turn off your computer, you do not want to cool down the Pentium Chip while he isn't working, do you?) |
| 23:59 | jcamins | lol |
| 23:59 | excuse! | |
| 23:59 | wahanui | jcamins: SCSI Chain overterminated |
| 23:59 | jcamins | excuse! |
| 23:59 | wahanui | jcamins: Your mail is being routed through Germany ... and they're censoring us. |
| 23:59 | jcamins | lol |
| 23:59 | drojf | lol |
| 23:59 | jcamins | drojf: stop that! |
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