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| 00:50 | mtompset joined #koha | |
| 00:51 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. |
| 01:18 | koha-run-backups?! Cool. I didn't know it existed until I was trying to delete koha. :) | |
| 01:23 | mtj | mtompset, sounds like you might have discovered the koha packages :) |
| 01:23 | mtompset | Yes. I have done all three types of installs. |
| 01:23 | I'm just trying to clean up instructions. | |
| 01:24 | And want to redo it from a semi-pristine state, so I'm reading files that I'm deleting. :) | |
| 01:37 | rangi | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]e_Debian_packages |
| 01:42 | mtompset | Thanks, rangi. |
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| 01:55 | mtompset | Greetings again, #koha. |
| 01:55 | Found two minor errors. Now to ponder solutions. | |
| 01:56 | rangi | wb mtompset |
| 01:56 | mtompset | home, koha administration, keyword to marc mapping, check error log. |
| 01:57 | rangi | by errors you mean warns right? |
| 01:57 | mtompset | yes, they don't affect functionality. |
| 01:57 | rangi | well no there is a quite a different thing |
| 01:57 | we run our scripts with use warnings | |
| 01:57 | this means harmless things will show up as warnings in the logs, unitialized variables etc | |
| 01:58 | mtompset | [Mon Sep 03 09:48:30 2012] [error] [client 192.168.100.2] [Mon Sep 3 09:48:30 2012] fieldmapping.pl: Use of uninitialized value $op in string eq at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/admin/fieldmapping.pl |
| 01:58 | rangi | they are not errors, just perl warning |
| 01:58 | yeah thats a warn | |
| 01:58 | you can silence them if you want, for a wanting your logs empty, but they are not errors, just warnings | |
| 01:59 | mtompset | [Mon Sep 03 09:44:00 2012] [error] [client 192.168.100.2] [Mon Sep 3 09:44:00 2012] marctagstructure.pl: Use of uninitialized value in numeric eq (==) at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/admin/marctagstructure.pl line 284. |
| 01:59 | rangi | yep another warn |
| 02:00 | apache of course doesn't know the diff, if it's in stderr it ends up in the error log | |
| 02:00 | mtompset | yes, but it seems strange that a value would be uninitialized or the logic not handle it. |
| 02:00 | rangi | the logic does handle it |
| 02:00 | its obviously not going to be == | |
| 02:00 | mtompset | when I say handle, I mean no warning generated. |
| 02:01 | in addition to properly processing. | |
| 02:01 | there isn't a processing logic problem. | |
| 02:01 | that's why "Warning" is an applicable label. | |
| 02:01 | rangi | there is a warning, you want it silenced i get it, its not an error though |
| 02:02 | mtompset | I said "minor". |
| 02:02 | rangi | i said warning, not error |
| 02:02 | mtompset | I choose a poor word, since your definition of error excludes warnings. |
| 02:02 | rangi | they are 2 different things in perl |
| 02:03 | its not my definition, i just choose to use it because it's for the language we are using | |
| 02:03 | mtompset | and I chose my word based on colloquial use aside from programming language. |
| 02:04 | Which points out that I should be more careful with my use of the word error. | |
| 02:16 | a simple "|| q{}" prevents one warning. :) | |
| 02:16 | rangi | yep, most of those will be that |
| 02:17 | or if ($var && $var == 2) | |
| 02:17 | mtompset | but sometimes you have to figure out why the code in the if is triggered. |
| 02:18 | which reminds me... I got back to looking at bug 8175 again. | |
| 02:18 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8175 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , items.materials check logs error or displays incorrectly in details.pl |
| 02:19 | mtompset | Provided a better explanation and reasoning for my code change. Hopefully it makes sense. :) |
| 02:20 | rangi | bug 8712 |
| 02:20 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8712 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , We should use WAI-ARIA guidelines to help with accessibility -OMNIBUS bug |
| 02:20 | rangi | i have one of the accessibility people here at work looking into that |
| 02:23 | mtompset | That looks like a huge template scouring ahead. |
| 02:29 | rangi | its not that bad, we had a blind user working on the opac already, this is just adding some extra stuff to some of the tags |
| 02:34 | staff side on the other hand, lots to do there | |
| 02:39 | mtj | mtompset++ , nice work on 8175 :) |
| 02:40 | mtompset | Thanks, mtj. |
| 02:40 | mtj | i like the /\S/ thing.. |
| 02:40 | mtompset | It was the only way I could easily think of something visibly printable. |
| 02:40 | mtj | its a good one for coding around 'display' stuff |
| 02:41 | yep, thats it ;) | |
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| 03:29 | mtompset | Sometimes reading code is such a pain. Goes back to reading marctagstructure.pl |
| 03:31 | Oh you have to be kidding me! The and is in the wrong order?! | |
| 03:58 | Yes, that was it. | |
| 04:06 | Next annoyance is that tag gets sorted when subfields are listed. | |
| 04:20 | cait joined #koha | |
| 04:35 | mtompset | Greetings, cait. |
| 04:35 | cait | hi mtompset |
| 04:36 | mtompset | I had a productive morning. Squashed a couple of annoying warnings. How are you? |
| 04:36 | cait | sleepy |
| 04:37 | mtompset | As long as it wasn't caused by dreams of MARC structures, you're fine. ;) |
| 04:37 | cait | ah no |
| 04:38 | only a long weekend | |
| 04:38 | mtompset | Grab your favorite form of caffeine, and try to wake up. AH! So today is like a Monday for you. :) |
| 04:38 | * mtompset | passes cait some chocolate. :) |
| 04:39 | cait | monday morning chocolate breakfast? why not. |
| 04:42 | mtompset | Is there ever a bad time for chocolate? |
| 04:42 | cait | hmm |
| 04:42 | that's a hard question | |
| 04:42 | mtompset | I thought it was easy and rhetorical. ;) |
| 04:43 | Though, I will accept: "If I step on a scale and see I have gained 10 kilos." | |
| 04:54 | Hmmm... I decided to visit http://koha-community.org/supp[…]ha-mailing-lists/ | |
| 04:55 | Scroll down: "Error: Feed has a error or is not valid" -- oops! That's not good. | |
| 04:58 | cait | hm didn't happen for me |
| 05:02 | rangi | Can anyone remember what uni the Filipino guy was from? |
| 05:03 | mtompset | What Filipino guy? |
| 05:03 | cait | hm no |
| 05:03 | rangi | Ah well never mind |
| 05:04 | mtompset | Someone at KohaCon 2012? |
| 05:04 | rangi | No on irc |
| 05:04 | mtompset | I'm in the Philippines, but I don't think you mean me. :) |
| 05:06 | rangi | Nope was at a university |
| 05:07 | mtompset | nepter? |
| 05:07 | rangi | No idea |
| 05:08 | Not important now | |
| 05:11 | mtompset | You did say "apparently the director of the nat lib of the philippines is here, stopped by yesterday" on 2011-10-30. But I'll stop hunting now. ;) |
| 05:13 | Silly me I scrolled down... | |
| 05:13 | qiqo(qo)... 2008-02-22... University of the Philippines. | |
| 05:13 | Didn't say which branch though. | |
| 05:15 | http://ilib.upd.edu.ph/ | |
| 05:23 | * magnuse | waves |
| 05:25 | WaqarAzeem joined #koha | |
| 05:27 | mtompset | Greetings, magnuse. |
| 05:28 | Greetings, WaqarAzeem | |
| 05:28 | magnuse | hiya mtompset |
| 05:28 | @wunder boo | |
| 05:28 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 11.0°C (7:20 AM CEST on September 03, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Steady). |
| 05:28 | mtompset | @wunder MNL |
| 05:28 | huginn | mtompset: The current temperature in Loyola Heights, Quezon City, Philippines is 27.6°C (1:15 PM PHT on September 03, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 26.0°C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Falling). |
| 05:28 | magnuse | you win! :-) |
| 05:28 | * magnuse | wanders off to find breakfast |
| 05:29 | mtompset | No wonder I don't feel like doing anything. This humidity is crazy. |
| 05:53 | * cait | waves at magnuse |
| 05:59 | Mahroos joined #koha | |
| 05:59 | Mahroos | Hi |
| 06:00 | Is anybody her | |
| 06:00 | ? | |
| 06:00 | Can you help me | |
| 06:00 | ? | |
| 06:01 | cait | hi Mahroos - ask your question, if someone around know it, they will answer |
| 06:01 | Mahroos | thank you for fast response |
| 06:01 | my q | |
| 06:01 | is | |
| 06:03 | I have installed all the components of koha 3.0.0.0 on opensuse 11.4 but when I run make test command I got no response ? | |
| 06:03 | cait | hm |
| 06:03 | why did you install koha 3.0.0.0? | |
| 06:03 | it's very old | |
| 06:03 | really old in fact | |
| 06:03 | you shouldn't be using that if you do a fresh installatoin now | |
| 06:04 | Mahroos | do you mean 3.8 |
| 06:04 | cait | yes, that is the stable release |
| 06:04 | although you could also use 3.6.x | |
| 06:04 | which is still in maintenane | |
| 06:05 | 3.0.0.0 was a stable release, but there were a lot of bug fixes and new features since then | |
| 06:05 | are you starting fresh or are you already using Koha or have to migrate data? | |
| 06:05 | Mahroos | it actually fresh |
| 06:06 | cait | I think I would use 3.8.x then |
| 06:06 | or 3.6, but nothing older than that | |
| 06:06 | it's bit hard to tell why make test would do nothing - and I have no experience with opensuse | |
| 06:06 | most people here are using debian or ubuntu | |
| 06:06 | those distros make it very easy to install Koha | |
| 06:06 | packages? | |
| 06:06 | wahanui | packages is probably at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian |
| 06:06 | cait | there are debian packages for Koha |
| 06:07 | I think maybe you should try reinstalling a omre current version of Koha | |
| 06:07 | as instructions for installation I woudl recommend using the files that come with Koha | |
| 06:07 | they are labelled INSTALL.* | |
| 06:08 | Mahroos | actually i have used them |
| 06:08 | mtompset | mahroos, are you Dennis Njuguna on the mailing list? |
| 06:09 | Mahroos | no that is my name |
| 06:09 | Mahroos Ali from Yemen | |
| 06:09 | mtompset | Just checking. |
| 06:09 | Mahroos | it is ok |
| 06:09 | mtompset | Because it seems like a few people are starting to trickle in trying openSUSE. |
| 06:10 | But the fact is there is far more ability to assist if you use a Debian-based operating system. | |
| 06:10 | Mahroos | opensuse is the one which is recommanded in our org |
| 06:10 | mtompset | Ah. Organizational requirements. |
| 06:10 | I understand. | |
| 06:11 | Mahroos | yah |
| 06:11 | cait | how did you choose 3.0.0.0? |
| 06:11 | mtompset | That comes with the live CD. |
| 06:11 | Mahroos | we are non-profit org to instance the Universities in our country |
| 06:12 | mtompset | Those are the instructions in the wiki. |
| 06:12 | We don't really have people supporting openSuse. | |
| 06:12 | I just went to the opensuse website... 12.2 is coming out in 2 days. | |
| 06:13 | Mahroos | yah exactly |
| 06:13 | mtompset | What version of OpenSuse are you using? |
| 06:13 | Mahroos | 11.4 |
| 06:13 | mtompset | The most current is the most likely to succeed. |
| 06:14 | And given that you are not a debian-based OS, you can ONLY do a tarball install. | |
| 06:14 | Mahroos | actually I had success story with koha 3.0.0.0 on opensuse 11.4 |
| 06:14 | cait | but you really shouldn't use that version of Koha |
| 06:14 | it had lots of bugs | |
| 06:14 | mtompset | no, LOOOOOOTS of bugs. |
| 06:15 | cait | and nobody here can help you if you run into them, because the answer will always be: please update |
| 06:15 | Mahroos | thank you |
| 06:15 | cait | not trying tomake it hard for you |
| 06:15 | it's really only better to start koha with a current stable version :) | |
| 06:15 | Mahroos | I will take your suggestion |
| 06:16 | but if I take the stable one could upgrade it easily | |
| 06:16 | mtompset | Your biggest problem will be finding dependencies. |
| 06:17 | ubuntu 12.04 has all the dependencies for 3.6.X | |
| 06:17 | it lacks some for 3.8.X, but as it is a debian-based OS, I can pull that from the debian.koha-community.org repository. | |
| 06:18 | Mahroos | Thank you gays. |
| 06:18 | cait | updating from earlier than 3.4 is a bit harder, after that it's quite easy |
| 06:18 | mtompset | Yes, upgrading from the latest version is much easier. |
| 06:19 | Mahroos | I will take your suggestions & use either debian or ubuntu |
| 06:21 | Thank you a lot (Cait & mtompset ) your help . | |
| 06:21 | cait | if you use Debian or ubuntu, make sure you use the packages :) |
| 06:21 | * mtompset | nods. |
| 06:21 | mtompset | Though, I suspect he has the organizational requirement of OpenSUSE. |
| 06:22 | Mahroos | what do you mean by nods |
| 06:22 | mtompset | Which means he's forced to a tarball. |
| 06:22 | Nodding is a form of non-verbal communication indicating agreement. | |
| 06:22 | Mahroos | also what is tarball |
| 06:22 | ? | |
| 06:22 | mtompset | *.tar.gz -- is a zipped tarball. |
| 06:23 | Mahroos | haaaaaa |
| 06:23 | yes | |
| 06:23 | mtompset | forced to use the tarball is what I should have said. Sorry. |
| 06:23 | cait | if you have an option to use another distro, it will be easier |
| 06:24 | if you don't have the option, it lmits the options, but it should not be impossible | |
| 06:24 | Mahroos | like what ? |
| 06:24 | wahanui | somebody said like was done all the time in the Lua community |
| 06:25 | Mahroos | Thank you gays it was great time with you thank you . |
| 06:25 | mtompset | wahanui forget like what |
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| 06:25 | wahanui | mtompset: I forgot like what |
| 06:26 | mtompset | Mahroos: use Debian or Ubuntu. |
| 06:26 | Those are the two operating systems used by most. | |
| 06:26 | Mahroos | yes |
| 06:26 | done | |
| 06:26 | i will do that | |
| 06:27 | mtompset | And then use... |
| 06:27 | packages? | |
| 06:27 | wahanui | i think packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian |
| 06:27 | mtompset | It says Debian. It will work for Ubuntu too. |
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| 06:28 | mtompset | developers! developers! developers! -- Hi, mbalmer. ;) |
| 06:29 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 06:29 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 14.7°C (8:25 AM CEST on September 03, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady). |
| 06:29 | mbalmer | mtompset, ahh, that joke…. do you realize that microsofts ballmer has two 'l's while I have only one? |
| 06:30 | mtompset | I know, but you still make me think of it. :) |
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| 06:35 | alex_a | hello |
| 06:35 | mtompset | bonjour! |
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| 06:39 | magnuse | hm, i'm still seeing the behaviour described in bug 8251 on 3.8.4 |
| 06:39 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8251 critical, P1 - high, ---, koha, Pushed to Master , Patrons are systematically debarred at checkin |
| 06:43 | magnuse | oops, that's weird. now it happened on a customer installation but not on the demo installation, running on the same package install... |
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| 06:51 | reiveune | hello |
| 06:52 | magnuse | bonjour reiveune |
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| 07:05 | mveron | Good morming #koha |
| 07:05 | morning... (should put my glasses) | |
| 07:09 | magnuse | anyone else seeing Patrons are systematically debarred at checkin on 3.8.4? |
| 07:15 | kf joined #koha | |
| 07:16 | mtompset | Don't have a 3.8.4 to check, sorry. |
| 07:16 | Greetings, mveron | |
| 07:16 | mveron | Hi mtompset |
| 07:17 | magnuse | kia ora kf! |
| 07:17 | kf | hi magnuse :) |
| 07:17 | magnuse | kf: do you have customers on 3.8.4? |
| 07:17 | mtompset | Greetings, kf. |
| 07:18 | kf | no, we are on 3.6.3 currently I think |
| 07:19 | magnuse | pft :-) |
| 07:25 | * mtompset | gives kf a high-five. |
| 07:26 | mtompset | So are we! :) |
| 07:26 | magnuse | laggards :-) |
| 07:27 | kf | pf |
| 07:27 | magnuse | now i can't even save "circulation and fine rules" |
| 07:27 | is it monday today? | |
| 07:28 | kf | it is monday. |
| 07:28 | magnuse | ah... |
| 07:28 | kf | magnuse: what do the logs say? |
| 07:28 | if you can't save somethng often a database problem in my experience | |
| 07:28 | magnuse | good question |
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| 07:29 | kf | good morning paul_p |
| 07:29 | paul_p | good morning #koha |
| 07:30 | magnuse | kia ora paul_p |
| 07:30 | hm, lots of uninitialized values in circulation.pl | |
| 07:30 | kf | I think that's not new - sadly |
| 07:32 | hm | |
| 07:32 | installed Koha using the packages for master | |
| 07:32 | and it's still complaining about a lot of missing packages | |
| 07:33 | magnuse | kf: mandatory or optional packages? |
| 07:34 | kf | makefile doesn't tell |
| 07:34 | y | |
| 07:35 | drojf | good morning #koha |
| 07:37 | magnuse | huh - the installation that does *not* debarr on return has lots of DBD::mysql::db errors in the log... |
| 07:37 | kf | huh? |
| 07:37 | drojf | reading the log… so 3.6.x is going to be koha's windows XP that people use forever instead of upgrading to the new version? :P |
| 07:38 | kf | nah, I don't think so |
| 07:38 | slef | that was 2.2.9 |
| 07:39 | drojf | oh i forgot good old 2.2.9 on windows :) |
| 07:39 | slef | nevere mind on windows |
| 07:40 | there were lots of 2.2 installations for ages after 3.0 was released | |
| 07:41 | and the upgrade to 3.0 seems to have been so painful that quite a few libraries seem to have gone "never again" and I'm still upgrading libraries from 3.0 this summer | |
| 07:41 | drojf | :( |
| 07:41 | slef | but then, I flamed a lot over 2.9/3.0's mistakes already, so I'll not repeat now. 3.2->4->6->8 is far better |
| 07:42 | and 2->4 had quite a lot of ways it could have gone badly, detaching items | |
| 07:42 | damn it... fan fault here, rebooting, ttyl | |
| 07:43 | hmmm... it stopped when I threatened a reboot ;) | |
| 07:44 | drojf | lol |
| 07:44 | slef | sentient workstations! |
| 07:44 | it's like they KNOW when it's Monday morning or Friday afternoon | |
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| 07:58 | * paul_p | enter "pushing patches" mode.. |
| 08:00 | * mtompset | cheers paul_p on. |
| 08:01 | pastebot | "magnuse" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "patron getting debarred on checkin" (89 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/150 |
| 08:01 | * magnuse | cheers paul_p on too |
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| 08:06 | mveron | Hi again #koha |
| 08:06 | and paul_p ++ | |
| 08:07 | drojf:When will your library be online? | |
| 08:07 | drojf | mveron: imported data is checked this week, we#ll see how that goes |
| 08:08 | mtompset | what version of koha, drojf? |
| 08:09 | drojf | 3.8.3 at the moment. will probably be the latest 3.8.x plus some local patches when we actually anounce it |
| 08:10 | mveron | drojf: Ich drücke dir die Daumen ( ~ good luck) |
| 08:10 | drojf | danke :) |
| 08:11 | kf | :( |
| 08:11 | bug 7430 | |
| 08:11 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7430 normal, P3, ---, jcamins, RESOLVED WONTFIX, ModZebra should not be in C4::Biblio |
| 08:11 | kf | drojf: and good luck |
| 08:11 | magnuse | yeah, sounds like jcamins got tired of rebasing |
| 08:11 | kf | and it was passed qa. |
| 08:12 | drojf | kf: thanks :) |
| 08:12 | kf | improvement discussed to death. |
| 08:12 | so now we get no improvement at all. | |
| 08:12 | rangi | kaizen |
| 08:12 | kf | yeah |
| 08:12 | I am with you rangi | |
| 08:13 | rangi | we should do more of that, perfect is the enemy of good enough |
| 08:13 | * kf | nods |
| 08:14 | magnuse | kaizen is Japanese for "improvement", or "change for the better" |
| 08:14 | rangi | yep, small continuous improvement |
| 08:14 | * magnuse | is a strong believer in that |
| 08:15 | rangi | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaizen |
| 08:15 | magnuse: hmm that seems like something is up with circ rules, we have people using 3.8.4 and havent bumped into that yet | |
| 08:16 | magnuse | yeah, i'm starting to think it's a data thing |
| 08:17 | slef | 5 whys! |
| 08:17 | magnuse | they have Suspension in days set to 7, but patrons are debarred until 18/03/2013 - which seems like a very long time... |
| 08:20 | kf | how overdue are the items? |
| 08:21 | magnuse | not at all, i issue and then return, and the patron is debarred |
| 08:22 | kf | hm |
| 08:22 | thought that got fixed | |
| 08:22 | there was a bug in bugzilla | |
| 08:22 | magnuse | bug 8251 |
| 08:22 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8251 critical, P1 - high, ---, koha, Pushed to Master , Patrons are systematically debarred at checkin |
| 08:24 | rangi | yep it was pushed before 3.8.4 so should be there |
| 08:24 | magnuse | rangi: did you just push the followup on that bug? |
| 08:25 | rangi | the one for bug 8486 was pushed too |
| 08:25 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8486 blocker, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Master , Critical error in Koha::Calendar::days_between calculation |
| 08:26 | magnuse | Chris Cormack 2012-07-18 08:28:12 UTC "So far, none of the 3 patches are in 3.8.x" http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]g.cgi?id=8251#c28 |
| 08:26 | huginn | 04Bug 8251: critical, P1 - high, ---, koha, Pushed to Master , Patrons are systematically debarred at checkin |
| 08:27 | magnuse | so with the patches from 8486, only the followup from 8251 was needed? |
| 08:29 | rangi | thats what i thought, but you could try that first 8251 patch |
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| 08:33 | magnuse | nah, the first 8251 patch looks like it will not apply any longer, because of the first patch for 8486 |
| 08:40 | slef | rangi: any thoughts on my foreign key problem? http://irc.koha-community.org/[…]2-08-31#i_1063330 |
| 08:41 | rangi | looks like you have a row that references a borrower that has been deleted |
| 08:42 | slef | oh whoops |
| 08:42 | wrong error :) | |
| 08:42 | http://irc.koha-community.org/[…]2-08-31#i_1063664 | |
| 08:42 | that's the vexing one | |
| 08:43 | sorry for wasting an eyeball | |
| 08:43 | rangi | hmm nope, havent seen that one |
| 08:44 | there is only one entry for it eh? | |
| 08:44 | slef | dang |
| 08:44 | for 16? | |
| 08:45 | rangi | yeah |
| 08:45 | slef | think so - just checking... the hoops I have to jump to get on the VPN from mobile internet are a bit icky |
| 08:45 | yeah, only one row | |
| 08:46 | | bit | flag | flagdesc | defaulton | | |
| 08:46 | +-----+---------+---------------------------------------+-----------+ | |
| 08:46 | | 16 | reports | Allow to access to the reports module | 0 | | |
| 08:46 | rangi | hmm then nope |
| 08:46 | slef | looked banilla to me to |
| 08:46 | vanilla | |
| 08:46 | just can't do the INSERT :-/ | |
| 08:47 | don't really see why it wants to "add or update a child row" | |
| 08:47 | show grants; | |
| 08:47 | ww | |
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| 08:52 | slef | nope not that :-/ |
| 08:59 | mveron | paul_p:I have a shy question: What happens to bug 7621 (Age restriction)? It is a very important enhancement we really need in Switzerland. Would be very grateful to see it pushed :-) |
| 08:59 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7621 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, veron, Signed Off , Circulation: Match age restriction of title with borrower's age without using categories |
| 09:00 | paul_p | mveron = what happens is just that I have 3 weeks of bugs to push (80 patches), and there are also 80 waiting for QA ;-) ) |
| 09:01 | mveron = my pile is something like 40 now, and I hope I'll have finished on wed | |
| 09:04 | mveron | paul_p: That's a huge amount of work and I really appreciate what you do for Koha. Hope anyway that the age restriction gets through... :-) |
| 09:07 | kf | paul_p: lots of rebasing work has gone into it - poor mveron |
| 09:09 | I know it happens, but I can undertsand him asking :) | |
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| 09:20 | magnuse | rangi: avoiding "Suspension in days" in the circulation and fine rules seems to eliminate the debar problem. do your customers use "Suspension in days"? |
| 09:20 | rangi | no |
| 09:20 | magnuse | ah hah... |
| 09:20 | kf | neither do ours |
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| 09:21 | magnuse | neither did mine, or so i thought until i checked... :-) |
| 09:21 | kf | hm true |
| 09:23 | drojf | i'm really glad that we do not have much circulation and don't have fines |
| 09:28 | magnuse | hehe, that does save some headaches :-) |
| 09:28 | cjh | mib_lyvuwn: if you have a koha question then the place to ask it is in here. |
| 09:36 | mib_lyvuwn | anybody have experience regarding "sending sms from koha" |
| 09:40 | rangi | not me |
| 09:46 | * magnuse | neither |
| 09:51 | * mveron | ...has th head away |
| 09:56 | mib_lyvuwn | anybody have experience regarding "sending sms from koha" |
| 09:57 | kf | mib_lyvuwn: sorry no |
| 09:57 | better try the mailing lists | |
| 10:00 | drojf | mib_lyvuwn: please don't send private messages to random people. it does not lead to a faster answer and is considered impolite by many people. ask in the channel, if somebody knows an answer s/he will tell you. |
| 10:00 | i have no experience with sending sms from koha, sorry | |
| 10:02 | hdl joined #koha | |
| 10:02 | hdl | hi all |
| 10:03 | rangi | hi hdl |
| 10:03 | hdl | kf around ? |
| 10:03 | kf | yes |
| 10:03 | hdl | rangi: do you know of any library which uses Match Check rules quite intensively ? |
| 10:03 | rangi | nope |
| 10:03 | hdl | That is have more than one match check rules in Matching rules ? |
| 10:04 | rangi | nope |
| 10:04 | hdl | what is the "community" position about C4::Matcher ? |
| 10:04 | Is it to be deprecated by Koha::Indexer ? | |
| 10:05 | Or will it be supported for some while ? | |
| 10:05 | kf | I don't think this has been discussed yet |
| 10:05 | and the Koha:: things are still not settled | |
| 10:05 | magnuse | sounds like something jcamins_away might have an opinion on |
| 10:05 | kf | yeah, but bit early for him |
| 10:07 | magnuse | yup |
| 10:07 | * magnuse | goes hunting for lunch |
| 10:07 | hdl | ok. |
| 10:07 | eythian joined #koha | |
| 10:07 | kf | yay eythian |
| 10:07 | um. | |
| 10:08 | good morning :) | |
| 10:14 | eythian | hi |
| 10:14 | wahanui | bonjour, eythian |
| 10:14 | eythian | wifi being crap, not sure how long I'll remain online |
| 10:14 | a pox on crappy consumer routers! | |
| 10:15 | kf | you could have stayed here... but no... |
| 10:15 | ;) | |
| 10:15 | * mtompset | laughs, "Greetings again, #koha." |
| 10:18 | drojf | eythian: left konstanz? |
| 10:19 | eythian | yep |
| 10:19 | drojf | where are you now? |
| 10:23 | mtompset | somewhere with crappy consumer routers. ;) |
| 10:24 | Was it something I said? :( | |
| 10:25 | eythian | Oosterhout |
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| 10:36 | mtompset | Welcome back, drojf. eythian said, "Oosterhout" |
| 10:36 | drojf | ok i'll have some "crappy consumer routers" too |
| 10:36 | thanks mtompset, just looked at the log :) | |
| 10:37 | Ahmad joined #koha | |
| 10:37 | mtompset | I was trying to save you reading the IRC log. ;) |
| 10:37 | drojf | i'll do next time :) |
| 10:40 | hdl | nice beer in OosterHout btw |
| 10:42 | drojf | nice beer in nl? i suppose that does not mean "heineken"? |
| 10:54 | * mtompset | grins. |
| 10:55 | mtompset | A beer sampling skill, drojf? |
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| 10:56 | mtompset | Here goes another koha-common install attempt. |
| 10:57 | Practice makes perfect. :) | |
| 10:59 | hdl | drojf: nope. Abbaye beer from Oosterhout. |
| 10:59 | And it tastes really good. | |
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| 11:01 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_8332' <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b5239200ad5063ed8> / Bug 8332 follow-up: make strings translatable <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]1108cd8c5531376e2> / Bug 8332: Add relationships to auth_finder for authority links <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git |
| 11:01 | eythian | fingers crossed it'll remain stable now |
| 11:03 | drojf | hdl: sounds great |
| 11:03 | mtompset: do you use that as a kind of meditation by now? ;) | |
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| 11:05 | eythian | drojf: do you mean that there's nice beer made here, or a good place to find it? |
| 11:05 | * mtompset | chuckles. Not quite. |
| 11:05 | eythian | I've found "Cafe de beurs" which has a very good selection |
| 11:05 | no wait | |
| 11:05 | I meant to address that to hdl | |
| 11:08 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #809 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #773 2 mo 0 days ago) |
| 11:20 | kf | gah, now I missed droifj |
| 11:22 | and I had a berlin question for him | |
| 11:26 | eythian | I'm sure he'll be back |
| 11:28 | jcamins | Good morning, #koha. |
| 11:33 | magnuse | kia ora jcamins! |
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| 11:37 | mtompset | Greetings, jcamins. |
| 11:38 | eythian: looks like it is still unstable. :( | |
| 11:39 | eythian | mtompset: no, I've not been disconnected for a while now |
| 11:39 | mtompset | I meant the jenkins build. |
| 11:39 | sorry for the cross-talk. | |
| 11:39 | kf | hi jcamins |
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| 12:00 | mtompset | Dumb question/thought... why isn't koha_perl_deps.pl in the koha-common packages? |
| 12:00 | jcamins | mtompset: because it isn't needed. |
| 12:00 | The packages install all the requirements. | |
| 12:01 | *dependencies | |
| 12:01 | mtompset | I know... I suppose I'm feeling paranoid enough to check. ;) |
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| 12:13 | jcamins | Is there any way to get the number of substitutions performed by s//? |
| 12:13 | eythian | jcamins: you mean s///g? |
| 12:14 | jcamins | eythian: you're right, that was poorly phrased. |
| 12:14 | I want to know whether a s/// did 0 or 1 substitutions. | |
| 12:15 | (i.e. whether it did anything or not) | |
| 12:15 | eythian | that's a good question. |
| 12:16 | wait | |
| 12:16 | yes | |
| 12:16 | I think it returns the number of substitutions | |
| 12:17 | (or false if none) | |
| 12:17 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #809: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 9 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/809/ |
| 12:17 | * jcamins: Bug 8525: highlight matches on OPAC detail page | |
| 12:17 | * jonathan.druart: Bug 8525: Followup Don't reset the hz scrollbar to the top | |
| 12:17 | * 5p4m: Bug 8492 [ENH] Restrict OpacSuppression to IP adresses outside of an IP range | |
| 12:17 | * paul.poulain: Bug 8492 follow-up DBRev number | |
| 12:17 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8525 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Highlight matches on details page |
| 12:17 | jenkins_koha | * jcamins: Bug 8207 follow-up: correct typo in authority types |
| 12:17 | * jcamins: Bug 8207 follow-up: correct typo in authority types | |
| 12:17 | * jcamins: Bug 8332: Add relationships to auth_finder for authority links | |
| 12:17 | * jcamins: Bug 8332 follow-up: make strings translatable | |
| 12:17 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8492 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mirko, Pushed to Master , Restrict OpacSuppression to IP adresses outside of an IP range |
| 12:17 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8207 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Modify authority type frameworks to allow see also fields to link to thesauri | |
| 12:17 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8332 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Add relationships to auth_finder for authority links | |
| 12:18 | eythian | jcamins: up above jenkins_koha |
| 12:18 | jcamins | eythian: Ah, thanks. |
| 12:19 | eythian | test it of course, but I think it's the case |
| 12:22 | janPasi | hi #koha |
| 12:22 | jcamins | I'm blanking on whether this is a valid Perl idiom: foreach my ($index, $label) (%indexes) { |
| 12:22 | Help? | |
| 12:22 | wahanui | i heard Help was at http://koha-community.org/support/ if no-one here can help. |
| 12:23 | jcamins | Oh, I remember. |
| 12:23 | = each (%indexes) | |
| 12:25 | Thanks. | |
| 12:25 | eythian | you're welcome. |
| 12:28 | janPasi | hey, how come doesn't apt-get upgrage upgrade the koha to the latest version? |
| 12:29 | jcamins | janPasi: you didn't do an apt-get update on the koha-community.org repo? |
| 12:31 | janPasi | jcamins: yep i did |
| 12:31 | it's in my /etc/apt/sources.list | |
| 12:32 | jcamins | janPasi: in that case, I'm stumped. ;) |
| 12:32 | What version are you on? | |
| 12:32 | janPasi | 3.6 |
| 12:32 | i would like to upgrade it to 3.8 | |
| 12:32 | deb http://debian.koha-community.org/koha squeeze main | |
| 12:32 | this is the line in sources.list | |
| 12:32 | jcamins | That looks right to me. |
| 12:33 | And you ran apt-get update? | |
| 12:33 | janPasi | yep |
| 12:33 | jcamins | What happens when you do apt-get upgrade? |
| 12:33 | janPasi | also the koha repository is listed with apt-get update |
| 12:33 | eythian | I would expect it to go from 3.6 to 3.8, but I've never actually tested that |
| 12:33 | jcamins | Does it say anything about koha-common being held back? |
| 12:33 | Nor have I. I use oldstable. | |
| 12:34 | janPasi | Hit http://debian.koha-community.org squeeze Release.gpg |
| 12:34 | Ign http://debian.koha-community.org/koha/ squeeze/main Translation-en | |
| 12:34 | Ign http://debian.koha-community.org/koha/ squeeze/main Translation-en_US | |
| 12:34 | Ign http://debian.koha-community.org/koha/ squeeze/main Translation-en_US.UTF-8 | |
| 12:34 | Hit http://debian.koha-community.org squeeze Release | |
| 12:34 | Ign http://debian.koha-community.org squeeze/main amd64 Packages | |
| 12:34 | Ign http://debian.koha-community.org squeeze/main amd64 Packages | |
| 12:34 | Hit http://debian.koha-community.org squeeze/main amd64 Packages | |
| 12:34 | jcamins | Right, that's the update. |
| 12:34 | janPasi | that's what it says |
| 12:34 | yeah | |
| 12:34 | jcamins | I want to know what the upgrade says. |
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| 12:34 | janPasi | upgrade seems to want to upgrade everything but koha packages |
| 12:34 | jcamins | Use paste.koha-community.org to share that. |
| 12:35 | janPasi | au |
| 12:35 | ah | |
| 12:35 | upgrade says koha-common is "kept back" | |
| 12:35 | why is this? | |
| 12:36 | jcamins | I don't know. |
| 12:36 | eythian | perhaps try a dist-upgrade, might be the new dependencies. |
| 12:36 | jcamins | As we just said, neither eythian nor I have ever had the nerve to upgrade to 3.8. |
| 12:36 | That makes sense. | |
| 12:37 | eythian | oh, I run some 3.8, I just haven't done an upgrade to it from the community repos yet |
| 12:37 | janPasi | http://paste.koha-community.org/151 |
| 12:37 | here's the paste | |
| 12:37 | jcamins | Yeah, try apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 12:37 | drojf | yes dist-upgrade should solve that, i had that before |
| 12:37 | janPasi | but you wouldn't recomment upgrading to 3.8 from 3.6? |
| 12:38 | jcamins | janPasi: I am very conservative. Many people are running 3.8 without any problems. |
| 12:38 | eythian | > under no circumstances are currently installed packages removed, or |
| 12:38 | packages not already installed retrieved and installed. | |
| 12:38 | that'll be why | |
| 12:38 | there are new deps in 3.8 | |
| 12:39 | janPasi: 3.8 has got a lot better lately I think, it had problems initially. | |
| 12:39 | janPasi | yeah, that's what i've heard |
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| 12:40 | * jcamins | is recommending 3.8 for new installs at this point, but there are still some minor issues with upgrades from 3.6.x. |
| 12:42 | janPasi | hmm, so it might be a good idea to wait a bit |
| 12:42 | eythian | mveron: g'day |
| 12:42 | janPasi | or build a test-system and test the upgrade with that |
| 12:42 | mveron | hi eythian |
| 12:42 | jcamins | That's the better option. |
| 12:42 | janPasi | before upgrading the production system |
| 12:43 | jcamins | Yes. |
| 12:43 | Test_systems++ | |
| 12:43 | eythian | http://sourceforge.net/projects/koha-3-live-cd/ <-- I think we should get osslabs to take this down |
| 12:44 | janPasi | ok, thank you :) |
| 12:44 | jcamins | eythian: agreed. |
| 12:45 | To be honest, I don't think that livecds are a good idea. They are out of date the moment they're released. | |
| 12:45 | eythian | yeah |
| 12:45 | mtompset | Let me guess, in response to the person on the mailing list? |
| 12:46 | eythian | though kyle's one apparently allows upgrading via git |
| 12:46 | mtompset | The only thing livecds are good for are installing an OS. |
| 12:47 | jcamins | eythian: yeah, but it means that you have to know how git works. |
| 12:47 | eythian | yeah |
| 12:48 | mtompset | By the way you can rate it negatively without logging in. ;) |
| 12:49 | People who are prone to use livecd's also would fear a large negative rating. ;) | |
| 12:52 | eythian | the guy in the list doesn't seem to be the best at noticing things like that, given his latest attempt is with one that is still way outdated. |
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| 12:54 | * jcamins | does not like people asking for help off-list. |
| 12:55 | kf | jcamins++ eythian++ |
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| 12:56 | samuel | hello everybody |
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| 12:58 | Joubu | hi #koha |
| 13:00 | jcamins | Nnnnnngggg. |
| 13:00 | What was the last thing I said? | |
| 13:00 | Oh, yeah. | |
| 13:00 | drojf | lol |
| 13:00 | jcamins | It was "I do not like people asking for help off-list." |
| 13:01 | Hello samuel and Joubu. | |
| 13:01 | eythian | On the plus side, I didn't get an email :) |
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| 13:01 | mtompset | http://sourceforge.net/project[…]?source=directory |
| 13:01 | drojf | i'd like to add "off-channel" to that for the irc |
| 13:01 | samuel | question: i've made successfully an import in koha but there's something i don't understand. Most of results are good but for some others i've this "No answer". What does it mean? |
| 13:01 | mtompset | Another project to attempt to kill. |
| 13:01 | jcamins | samuel: what are you doing? |
| 13:02 | mtompset | to express it another way: what steps are you taking to do what you are doing? |
| 13:03 | tcohen | morning #koha! |
| 13:03 | mveron | Many thanks to Mason James for QA-ing the age restriction :-) |
| 13:03 | jcamins | Hola. |
| 13:03 | tcohen | bgkriegel has just completed the spanish translation! |
| 13:04 | jcamins | Woohoo! |
| 13:04 | bgkriegel++ | |
| 13:04 | drojf | i'd like to add that i think live-cds are bad. they raise the hope one could maintain a professional library system without any knowledge of the system itself and all things underlying. how could that possibly turn out ok? |
| 13:05 | mtompset | drojf: That's what it should be. But that is NEVER what it is. |
| 13:05 | eythian | drojf: yes |
| 13:13 | mtompset | Oh... That's strange... |
| 13:13 | Is mysql-server not in the packages? | |
| 13:14 | jcamins | mtompset: it's not a requirement on the same system as Koha. |
| 13:15 | mtompset | And that's why it says to sudo apt-get it. |
| 13:15 | Okay. | |
| 13:21 | eythian | yep |
| 13:25 | mtompset | okay... bizarre situation... |
| 13:25 | hdl joined #koha | |
| 13:25 | mtompset | I attempted to clear out everything koha. |
| 13:26 | removed mysql | |
| 13:26 | removed apache | |
| 13:26 | removed a whack load of libraries including koha-common. | |
| 13:26 | Then... I attempted to reinstall koha-common. | |
| 13:26 | * eythian | always wonders why people think that is likely to do anything useful |
| 13:27 | mtompset | because you should be able to uninstall and reinstall it |
| 13:27 | eythian | ok, yes, I would expect that to cause it to mostly come back as it was. |
| 13:28 | mtompset | well, I did rm's of /var/lib/koha and anything else that looked koha too. |
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| 13:28 | mtompset | So, I am expecting koha-create... to run smoothly. |
| 13:28 | but it tells me a user already existed. | |
| 13:29 | eythian | you probably didn't remove the user that koha-create created |
| 13:29 | mtompset | but I go into mysql and there is no such user. |
| 13:29 | jcamins | It's the system user. |
| 13:29 | mtompset | oh... the home directories? |
| 13:29 | eythian | no, the system user |
| 13:29 | jcamins | If you want to remove a Koha instance, use koha-remove. |
| 13:29 | If you don't use koha-remove, you'll leave bits and pieces all the heck over the place. | |
| 13:29 | mtompset | oh, it's an entry in /etc/passwd./ |
| 13:29 | eythian | user userdel to remove it. |
| 13:29 | don't go editing the passwd file | |
| 13:29 | mtompset | no, I wont. |
| 13:30 | eythian | *use userdel... |
| 13:30 | mtompset | okay... userdel. |
| 13:30 | eythian | or maybe it's deluser |
| 13:30 | I can never remember | |
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| 13:31 | mtompset | it's userdel... okay... I think I'm back on track for a reinstall. |
| 13:32 | great... back on track. | |
| 13:33 | tcohen | i know there'no position available for QA'ing ubuntu-related documentation, but, I'd like to volunteer |
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| 13:33 | eythian | tcohen: perhaps add the position to the wiki and mention it on the list, if you're keen |
| 13:33 | I don't think anyone would object. | |
| 13:34 | Oak | Ahoy me hearties |
| 13:34 | magnuse | |
| 13:34 | Guten tag kf | |
| 13:35 | kf | hi Oak |
| 13:35 | jcamins | Woohoo! I successfully generated breadcrumbs using a hash. |
| 13:36 | eythian | eh? |
| 13:36 | jcamins | eythian: right now we hardcode the breadcrumbs on every page. |
| 13:36 | Duplicating the div, etc. | |
| 13:36 | I find that inelegant. | |
| 13:36 | eythian | yep |
| 13:37 | pastebot | "jcamins" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "I find this more elegant" (6 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/152 |
| 13:37 | mtompset | tcohen: Sadly, you signed off. You can't QA. |
| 13:37 | Oh... roles... never mind. | |
| 13:37 | eythian | jcamins: ahhh. I read "hash" as "something like SHA1" and was confused. |
| 13:37 | kf | and qa can only be done by the elected qa team :) |
| 13:38 | eythian | for documentation? |
| 13:38 | mtompset | Greetings, Oak and tcohen . |
| 13:38 | jcamins | eythian: for documentation included in the distribution, yes. |
| 13:38 | kf | jcamins: I don't like it I am afraid |
| 13:38 | translations. | |
| 13:38 | wahanui | translations are always committed on the stable branches |
| 13:39 | mtompset | Okay... so, can someone explain why I have my OPAC page coming up for my staff client now? |
| 13:39 | kf | we would have to teach the translation scripts to parse those labels first, at the moment it only speaks html |
| 13:39 | jcamins | kf: ooh, good point. |
| 13:39 | Darn. | |
| 13:39 | * jcamins | goes back to hardcoding. |
| 13:39 | eythian | do we not have a way to translate perl within templates? |
| 13:40 | jcamins | eythian: we don't have a way to translate Perl at all. |
| 13:40 | eythian | we could implement something like the JS _("string") thing there I'd expect |
| 13:41 | jcamins | Someone else could, but this is definitely not something I'll be spending time on. |
| 13:41 | So far no one has expressed an interest in paying to make breadcrumbs consistent. ;) | |
| 13:41 | kf | eythian: we could teach the scripts - but I won't go there - too scary. |
| 13:41 | Oak | hello mtompset :) |
| 13:42 | tcohen | mtompset: maybe i'll continue signing patches then |
| 13:44 | mtompset | I really hate reverse proxies. |
| 13:44 | Okay... so, can someone explain why I have my OPAC page coming up for my staff client now? | |
| 13:45 | I know how to rewrite the apache rules to get it to work, but its ugly and not default. | |
| 13:46 | jcamins | mtompset: you have your DNS set up incorrectly. |
| 13:47 | eythian | or your virtual host setup |
| 13:47 | well, more likely DNS if this is a fresh install | |
| 13:47 | mtompset | If I change the rewrite rules I can get it to work. |
| 13:47 | I don't know why I have to do that. | |
| 13:47 | eythian | you don't have to change rewrite rules |
| 13:47 | I wonder if you have the wrong ServerName set | |
| 13:48 | apache will hit the first virtual host it finds if there's nothing that matches, that's what's happening to you | |
| 13:48 | (most likely) | |
| 13:49 | mtompset | But the virtual server name matches. |
| 13:49 | The weird thing is... apache logs the WRONG name. | |
| 13:50 | if I change the the two rewrite files in /etc/... | |
| 13:50 | eythian | what are you talking about when you say rewrite files? |
| 13:50 | mtompset | to have the correct name hardcoded before the $1. |
| 13:50 | eythian | I think you may be doing things the Hard Way somewhere |
| 13:50 | jcamins | Also the Wrong Way. |
| 13:51 | eythian | I'd give dollars to doughnuts that apache is logging what it's seeing |
| 13:51 | mtompset | Correct... which is why I'm asking what the wrong why. |
| 13:51 | what the right way is. | |
| 13:51 | apache-shared-intranet.conf? | |
| 13:52 | eythian | what are you asking? |
| 13:52 | with that question mark and filename. | |
| 13:52 | jcamins | There is absolutely no reason you should be editing that file. |
| 13:53 | mtompset | RewriteRule (.+) $1?%1%2 [N,R,NE] |
| 13:53 | RewriteRule ^/bib/([^\/]*)/?$ /cgi-bin/koha/detail\.pl?bib=$1 [PT] | |
| 13:53 | RewriteRule ^/isbn/([^\/]*)/?$ /search?q=isbn:$1 [PT] | |
| 13:53 | RewriteRule ^/issn/([^\/]*)/?$ /search?q=issn:$1 [PT] | |
| 13:53 | -- it is the apache-shared-intranet.conf file that has these line which I add hardcoded site names to. | |
| 13:53 | jcamins | Do not edit those. |
| 13:53 | Don't. | |
| 13:53 | mtompset | I know I 'm not supposed to. |
| 13:54 | jcamins | Once you change that, you've broken any future package installations. |
| 13:54 | mtompset | So the question is... how can I get it to work with the reverse proxy? |
| 13:54 | jcamins | Fix the reverse proxy. |
| 13:55 | mtompset | I'm asking for permission now. |
| 13:55 | eythian | presumably the reverse proxy is still sending through a Host: header |
| 13:55 | jcamins | Tell it not to rewrite the Host: header. |
| 13:55 | eythian | and that Host: header is different between the opac and the staff client |
| 13:55 | if so, all you need to do is put that in as a ServerName or ServerAlias | |
| 13:56 | if, however, it's changing it so they can't be distinguished, then your reverse proxy is buggered. | |
| 13:58 | mtompset | but if I hard code it... it logs correctly. |
| 13:58 | So the reverse proxy is only HALF busted. | |
| 14:01 | eythian | I think you're not setting up your virtual hosting with your reverse proxy in mind. That would cause what you're seeing, but I don't know how or why you'd change rewrite rules to change this. |
| 14:02 | mtompset | by changing the intranet file I said, and putting the sitename hardcoded. |
| 14:02 | Because the other oddity we are doing is switching from https to http. | |
| 14:02 | https to the reverse proxy and http to the koha vm. | |
| 14:03 | eythian | that shouldn't make a difference really |
| 14:05 | kf | meh. |
| 14:05 | does someone know if serials search is broken in 3.8.4? | |
| 14:05 | or has someone an installation and can do a quick test for me maybe? | |
| 14:06 | oh | |
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| 14:06 | kf | never mind... this is 3.6.3 |
| 14:06 | but it's broken | |
| 14:07 | jcamins | kf: serial search from where? |
| 14:07 | kf | in this installation... why? *thinks* |
| 14:07 | top search in the serial module | |
| 14:07 | this is actually quite weird | |
| 14:07 | it works in another 3.6.3 installation | |
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| 14:08 | jcamins | It works in 3.6.7+. One of my clients just started using serials. |
| 14:08 | Loves it. | |
| 14:08 | kf | nice to hear that :) |
| 14:08 | hope they wil too | |
| 14:08 | but seriously | |
| 14:08 | this is weird | |
| 14:08 | it works in 2 other installations | |
| 14:08 | only not in this one | |
| 14:08 | mtompset | diff -r? ;) |
| 14:09 | kf | no access to the server |
| 14:09 | and it sounds like a bad idea | |
| 14:09 | I would try the error logs first | |
| 14:09 | mtompset | Are you sure they are all 3.6.3? |
| 14:09 | kf | yes |
| 14:09 | mtompset | What steps are you taking? |
| 14:09 | I have a 3.6.3 :) | |
| 14:10 | kf | I tried a search in serials that worked in catalog |
| 14:10 | oooh | |
| 14:10 | never mind. | |
| 14:10 | it's me, the dumb user. | |
| 14:11 | it only finds records with subscriptiosn, of course | |
| 14:11 | * kf | hides somewhere |
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| 14:15 | mtompset | It's okay. |
| 14:15 | Have some chocolate. | |
| 14:15 | * mtompset | hands kf some chocolate. |
| 14:16 | kf | heh thx |
| 14:18 | eythian | anyone seen something in 3.8 where you can't re-order people in a routing list? |
| 14:19 | kf | brr |
| 14:19 | @wunder Konstanz | |
| 14:19 | huginn | kf: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 20.0°C (4:00 PM CEST on September 03, 2012). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Falling). |
| 14:19 | eythian | @wunder oosterhout |
| 14:19 | kf | eythian: yes, in my presentation during the workshop |
| 14:19 | huginn | eythian: The current temperature in MeteOosterhout, Oosterhout Nb, Netherlands is 25.4°C (4:19 PM CEST on September 03, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Steady). |
| 14:20 | eythian | kf: ah right :) |
| 14:20 | kf | eythian: you stole the warm weather! |
| 14:20 | eythian | looks like I did |
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| 14:26 | eythian | kf: bug 8716 |
| 14:26 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8716 normal, P4, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Reordering of routing list entries doesn't work |
| 14:31 | Oak | @wunder Islamabad |
| 14:31 | huginn | Oak: The current temperature in Islamabad, Pakistan is 28.0°C (7:00 PM PKT on September 03, 2012). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: 24.0°C. Pressure: 29.62 in 1003 hPa (Rising). |
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| 14:35 | mtompset | Does this mean he's hot, hot, hot? |
| 14:36 | Slow reply, bad joke. | |
| 14:36 | I need to get to bed. | |
| 14:36 | Oak | :) |
| 14:36 | mtompset | Have a good day (24 hour period) everyone. :) |
| 14:36 | Oak | mtompset, you are a good addition to #koha family. |
| 14:37 | i have started to notice when you are not around... and feel good when you join :) | |
| 14:37 | mtompset | Thanks, Oak. I appreciate that. :) |
| 14:38 | Oak | :) you are welcome. have a good sleep. |
| 14:38 | * mtompset | dances his way out listening to http://youtu.be/IGBXhDZXTqY (Feelin' hot, hot, hot) |
| 15:01 | reiveune | bye |
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| 15:06 | tcohen | bye kf |
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| 16:38 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7368: fixed subsribe typo <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ed0ea2c1a401d84f0> / Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_8440' <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]bcce2c7210bd8d40a> / Bug 8440: Dates does not appear in suggestions management <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ommitdiff;h=4cf4b |
| 16:38 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #810 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #773 2 mo 1 day ago) |
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| 16:44 | paul_p | hello back (not aware xchat was closed...) |
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| 16:49 | * cait | waves |
| 16:55 | eythian | hi cait |
| 16:55 | cait | hi eythian |
| 16:55 | eythian | I'm sitting outside and working because it's not a bad day here. |
| 16:55 | cait | this is weird again |
| 16:55 | I got used to you being in the next room :) | |
| 16:55 | eythian | heh |
| 16:55 | cait | it's cold and grey here :( |
| 16:56 | and I have to study it law... | |
| 16:58 | eythian | I have to study LDAP, I suspect that may be worse... |
| 16:59 | cait | hm |
| 16:59 | not sure, it sounds nicer | |
| 17:00 | I also finished the koha installation in the new ubuntu vm - and it#s even slower than it was on the old computer in debian | |
| 17:01 | paul_p | Hi eythian how are things in DE ? |
| 17:02 | cait | paul_p: he is gone :( |
| 17:02 | paul_p | hey, seems you're in NL (at least connected from nl ;-) ) |
| 17:02 | eythian | cait: madness |
| 17:02 | paul_p: yeah, in nl now | |
| 17:02 | cait | eythian: about the vm? yeah. |
| 17:02 | paul_p | eythian = how long will you stay here ? when do you fly back ? |
| 17:03 | eythian | paul_p: I'm here for a bit under three more weeks, I fly out on the 20th |
| 17:03 | * paul_p | still has 33 patches passed QA to push ... almost 30 today ! |
| 17:03 | eythian | sounds like the good kind of busy :) |
| 17:03 | paul_p | tomorrow, i've a meeting all the day. I hope to have finished for the next IRC meeting ! |
| 17:04 | eythian | that sounds like the less good kind of busy |
| 17:04 | paul_p | OK, time for dinner for me. See you later ! |
| 17:04 | cait | bye paul_p |
| 17:05 | eythian | bye! |
| 17:10 | slides? | |
| 17:10 | wahanui | slides is kf has written her slides. |
| 17:11 | cait | heh |
| 17:12 | eythian: I will send you the link as soon as the slides are online | |
| 17:12 | eythian | OK :) |
| 17:13 | wahanui: pilze is mushrooms | |
| 17:13 | wahanui | OK, eythian. |
| 17:15 | cait | hehe |
| 17:15 | zwiebeln is onions | |
| 17:15 | zwiebeln? | |
| 17:15 | wahanui | zwiebeln is onions |
| 17:17 | jcamins_away | Okay... does anyone know how to make a variable visible from outside a class? |
| 17:17 | eythian | So I tied a zwiebel to by belt. Which was the style at the time. |
| 17:17 | cait | lol |
| 17:17 | eythian | jcamins: can you be more specific? |
| 17:17 | Is it a package variable, or an object variable> | |
| 17:17 | ? | |
| 17:17 | jcamins | Package variable. |
| 17:18 | eythian | You should be able to use the fully qualified name, shouldn't you? |
| 17:18 | (also, should you really be doing that?) | |
| 17:18 | jcamins | eythian: I have a variable -- well, constant -- called $NAME in the Koha::SuggestionEngine::Plugin::ExplodedTerm that I want to access from outside the class. |
| 17:19 | eythian | And calling it Koha::...Term::variable_name doesn't work? |
| 17:19 | I would have expected it to. | |
| 17:19 | jcamins | No. |
| 17:19 | And I thought it did. | |
| 17:19 | eythian | perhaps it needs to be declared with 'our' rather than 'my' |
| 17:19 | * jcamins | has an idea. |
| 17:20 | jcamins | Nope. I had my, switched to our, thought it worked, and am now finding that it's not working again. |
| 17:21 | eythian | oh. |
| 17:21 | jcamins | Well, again for the first time- I thought it worked on a different project. |
| 17:21 | * jcamins | just tried my with no luck. |
| 17:22 | jcamins | Wait, wait, wait. |
| 17:22 | I see the problem. | |
| 17:22 | $plugin::NAME evaluates to plugin::NAME | |
| 17:23 | Now... how do I do that successfully? | |
| 17:23 | * jcamins | considers just changing it to sub NAME. |
| 17:23 | eythian | it shouldn't, it should evaluate to the content of #plugin |
| 17:23 | $plugin rather | |
| 17:23 | followed by ::NAME | |
| 17:25 | jcamins | Actually, mystery solved. |
| 17:25 | The packages aren't being loaded. | |
| 17:25 | eythian | heh |
| 17:25 | that would certainly do it | |
| 17:31 | cait | :) |
| 17:32 | jcamins | I've decided the sub is better, even though it offends me. |
| 17:32 | I can't figure out what I did differently, but it resolutely refuses to work this time. | |
| 17:32 | eythian | hmm, it should work, so far as I understand things. |
| 17:33 | jcamins | It has to do with the name of the class being in a variable. |
| 17:34 | Ooh, maybe I can add the subroutine to the base class. | |
| 17:34 | * jcamins | tries. |
| 17:35 | * cait | sends chocolate |
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| 17:36 | tcohen | template_name => "authorities/authorities.tmpl" is sure wrong, isn't? |
| 17:37 | jcamins | And.. no. Doesn't work. |
| 17:37 | tcohen: what's wrong with it? | |
| 17:37 | tcohen | the tmpl |
| 17:37 | part? | |
| 17:37 | jcamins | Ah. |
| 17:37 | tcohen | and not tt |
| 17:37 | jcamins | That's translated to tt. |
| 17:37 | tcohen | oh |
| 17:37 | jcamins | You can change it to tt if you'd like. |
| 17:38 | eythian | yeah, it's a hack from the tmpl->tt conversion |
| 17:46 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #810: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 8 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/810/ |
| 17:46 | * ruth: Bug 8012: default values for defaultSortField/defaultSortOrder NULL on install | |
| 17:46 | * fridolyn.somers: Bug 8586: Small bug in die if no mapping in framework for biblioitems.biblioitemnumber | |
| 17:46 | * oleonard: Bug 3374 - Display patron attributes in the same format as other patron data | |
| 17:46 | * robin: Bug 8391: prevent error when viewing circ history with bad dates | |
| 17:46 | * mtompset: Bug 4064 - Uninitialized variable errors in opac-search.pl Merely optimized two if statements, already fixed in master. | |
| 17:46 | * ruth: Bug 8569: Paying for lost item overwrites nonpublic notes. | |
| 17:46 | * m.de.rooy: Bug 7805 Followup for perlcritic messages | |
| 17:46 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8012 trivial, P5 - low, ---, ruth, Pushed to Master , defaultSortOrder and OPACdefaultSortOrder are set to "ascending" on install |
| 17:46 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8586 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , Small bug in die if no mapping in framework for biblioitems.biblioitemnumber | |
| 17:46 | jenkins_koha | * oleonard: Bug 6494 - opacmysummaryhtml on reading history |
| 17:46 | * matthias.meusburger: Bug 7412: Pre-filling items in cataloguing | |
| 17:46 | * paul.poulain: Bug 7412 follow-up | |
| 17:46 | * paul.poulain: Bug 7412 follow-up | |
| 17:46 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3374 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Display patron attributes in the same format as other patron data |
| 17:46 | jenkins_koha | * adrien.saurat: Bug 7241: fix for the CIRC logs -> itemnumber stored correctly |
| 17:46 | * paul.poulain: Revert "Bug 7241: fix for the CIRC logs -> itemnumber stored correctly" | |
| 17:46 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8391 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , Cannot view reading record through staff client |
| 17:47 | jenkins_koha | * julian.maurice: Bug 7168: Add basket group search field in histsearch.pl |
| 17:47 | * fridolyn.somers: Bug 8440: Dates does not appear in suggestions management | |
| 17:47 | * kathryn: Bug 7368: fixed subsribe typo | |
| 17:47 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4064 normal, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Master , Uninitialized variable errors in opac-search.pl |
| 17:47 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8569 minor, P5 - low, ---, ruth, Pushed to Master , Paying for a lost item overwrites nonpublic notes | |
| 17:47 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7805 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , Exposing the new list permissions in opac and staff | |
| 17:47 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6494 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , opacmysummaryhtml on reading history | |
| 17:47 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7412 enhancement, P3, ---, matthias.meusburger, Pushed to Master , Pre-filling items in cataloguing | |
| 17:47 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7241 normal, P5 - low, ---, adrien.saurat, Failed QA , circulation action logs record biblionumber instead of item number | |
| 17:47 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7168 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Master , Search orders by basket group name | |
| 17:47 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8440 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , Dates does not appear in suggestions management | |
| 17:47 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7368 trivial, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, ASSIGNED , General staff client typo omnibus | |
| 18:11 | tcohen | jcamins, I attached a new patch against bug 8520 |
| 18:11 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8520 critical, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Authorities display incorrectly in staff results |
| 18:11 | jcamins | tcohen: I saw. |
| 18:11 | I will test it and sign off. | |
| 18:12 | tcohen | i searched for 'authorized' through the code to find more cases |
| 18:12 | jcamins | Good idea! |
| 18:12 | tcohen | and didn't find more |
| 18:12 | but will try again just in case | |
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| 19:16 | libsysguy | when is the voting for 3.12 roles? |
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| 19:17 | cait | libsysguy: I think the meeting after this week - we didn't announce we would vote |
| 19:17 | libsysguy: I added it to the agenda that we have to set a date for voting | |
| 19:18 | libsysguy | ahh ok |
| 19:18 | thanks cait | |
| 19:18 | I guess there aren't any positions so far that require voting | |
| 19:19 | looks like we are still missing a QAM though | |
| 19:20 | cait | yeah |
| 19:20 | libsysguy | and a meeting leader |
| 19:23 | rangi | Morning peeps |
| 19:23 | MrPeeper | whatever that means |
| 19:25 | cait | morning rangi :) |
| 19:38 | jcamins | rangi: I have a puzzle for you. I am working on the suggestion engine plugin for bug 8211. |
| 19:38 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8211 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Add "subject (broader)," "subject (narrower)," and "subject (related)" options for search |
| 19:38 | magnuse | jcamins++ |
| 19:38 | jcamins | The suggestion engine does not really use the templates at all. |
| 19:38 | rangi | Right |
| 19:39 | jcamins | So how the heck do I make "X and broader terms" translatable? |
| 19:39 | (X, of course, will beh user's search) | |
| 19:39 | rangi | You'll have to put them in something that is translatable |
| 19:39 | cait | jcamins: templates |
| 19:39 | wahanui | templates are written in Template::Toolkit. |
| 19:39 | cait | preferrably |
| 19:41 | jcamins | Right, how do I do that *without* turning the suggestion engine into the black hole of despair that breaking encapsulation invariably causes? |
| 19:41 | cait | hm |
| 19:41 | include file? | |
| 19:41 | not sure htat was the right answer | |
| 19:42 | jcamins | I guess... run the text through a template for translation, then return that? |
| 19:43 | I guess I just have to use the HTMLToText plugin. | |
| 19:45 | rangi | Why? |
| 19:45 | Why put html in the template? | |
| 19:45 | cait | hm |
| 19:45 | jcamins | Because we can't translate non-HTML templates. |
| 19:45 | cait | html in the perl file? |
| 19:46 | and what is it you want to tranlate? | |
| 19:46 | jcamins | No, we can't translate Perl files. |
| 19:46 | cait | and how does it work? |
| 19:46 | yes, I thought rangi meant that | |
| 19:46 | jcamins | I don't need any HTML at all. |
| 19:46 | cait | I am confused by now |
| 19:46 | jcamins | I am generating JSON. |
| 19:46 | cait | can you tell how it works now? so we can make useful suggestions? :) |
| 19:46 | rangi | No you don't just a .tt |
| 19:46 | jcamins | With the following text: "X and broader headings." |
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| 19:46 | jcamins | Right now, it just returns "X and broader headings." |
| 19:46 | rangi | Without html in it |
| 19:47 | It should translate any .tt | |
| 19:48 | jcamins | Oh, I see. The problem with the cart was the line breaks. |
| 19:48 | rangi | Yep |
| 19:48 | magnuse | jcamins: why not make JavaScript add "and broader headings"? |
| 19:48 | rangi | And you can enforce those |
| 19:48 | magnuse | and use the _() trick |
| 19:48 | rangi | With tt comments |
| 19:48 | cait | hm fallback without js might be nice |
| 19:49 | jcamins | magnuse: then I'd have to add javascript. |
| 19:49 | cait | like the other plugin |
| 19:49 | jcamins | And have a template. |
| 19:49 | The suggestion plugins do not have any user interface of their own. | |
| 19:49 | cait | hm |
| 19:50 | jcamins | I'l just run it through a template. |
| 19:50 | cait | you got to get the text in a tt file somehow |
| 19:50 | or a js | |
| 19:50 | rangi | I think a simple .tt with the text in it |
| 19:50 | cait | there are no more options |
| 19:50 | jcamins | Load TT directly. |
| 19:50 | rangi | You lose the picking the right language then |
| 19:51 | magnuse | what is consuming the json? not js? |
| 19:51 | jcamins | magnuse: Perl. |
| 19:51 | Well, sometimes js, sometimes Perl. | |
| 19:51 | rangi | Are you 100% sure a tt file with text and no html won't be translated cos I'm not |
| 19:51 | magnuse | ah, sounds interesting :-) |
| 19:52 | jcamins | rangi: no, not at all sure. |
| 19:52 | rangi: can I use C4::Template without it printing to stdout? | |
| 19:52 | rangi | Of course |
| 19:52 | * jcamins | never had reason to try before. |
| 19:52 | rangi | The print line in the scripts is what prints |
| 19:53 | Nothing in the module does | |
| 19:53 | magnuse | good plan :-) |
| 19:54 | rangi | There are even subs in output.pm to do correct headers |
| 19:55 | jcamins | I'm using those, I think. |
| 20:06 | cait | it gets translated - but it will look different |
| 20:06 | the problem with cart was that it required the line breaks | |
| 20:07 | jcamins | cait: it doesn't get displayed at all in the rendered form. |
| 20:07 | Or do you mean that the text won't show up the same in pootle? | |
| 20:09 | cait | if you have line breaks in the file |
| 20:09 | hey will be gone | |
| 20:09 | in the translated templates | |
| 20:11 | rangi | the trick for that is |
| 20:11 | use tt comments | |
| 20:12 | some stuuf | |
| 20:12 | [%# comment %] | |
| 20:12 | some stuff | |
| 20:12 | will preserve the line space im pretty sure | |
| 20:12 | jcamins | I have the opposite problem. |
| 20:12 | I need to make sure there is *no* whitespace. | |
| 20:12 | rangi | [% -%] |
| 20:12 | jcamins | But I can do that with TT too. |
| 20:12 | rangi | yep |
| 20:13 | jcamins | Okay, I think I now have a clear enough picture of this. Where should the template go? |
| 20:14 | rangi | somewhere under prog/en |
| 20:14 | but it can be anywhere after that | |
| 20:15 | jcamins | No strong opinion? |
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| 20:16 | jcamins | prog/en/... guess I can't use util... |
| 20:16 | rangi | text? |
| 20:16 | wahanui | it has been said that text is pretty damn huge |
| 20:17 | jcamins | Excellent! |
| 20:17 | Thanks. | |
| 20:21 | rangi | lol i think we should move that zebra biblios 3.8 thread thing to devel, with all the different pieces of advice, it's turning into a pile of conflicting madness for people to read :) |
| 20:22 | jcamins | It sure is. |
| 20:29 | You did such a good on that puzzle, I have another one for you: | |
| 20:29 | rangi | heh |
| 20:29 | jcamins | I want to have a sortable list of suggestion plugins, that people can enable or disable at will. |
| 20:29 | eythian joined #koha | |
| 20:29 | jcamins | I can use sortable to great effect here. |
| 20:29 | cait | hi eythian |
| 20:29 | jcamins | But how should I store this configuration in the database? |
| 20:30 | cait | well... include was the wrong answer, I am not trying again :) |
| 20:30 | jcamins | Hehe. |
| 20:31 | There's no saying your next answer won't be right. | |
| 20:31 | :) | |
| 20:31 | cait | xml :P |
| 20:31 | jcamins | Of course, there's nothing to say it won't be wrong, either. :P |
| 20:31 | cait | pf. |
| 20:31 | hehe | |
| 20:32 | now rangi can help you find the real solution | |
| 20:33 | rangi | heh |
| 20:33 | does it serialise? | |
| 20:34 | whatever you store, will only be used by perl eh? it doesnt need to be human usable? | |
| 20:34 | jcamins | Well, I guess it'd be easy enough to just serialize the hash with Data::Dumper. |
| 20:34 | rangi | or storable |
| 20:34 | wahanui | somebody said storable was yellow and Graphics::Magick |
| 20:35 | jcamins | Or storable. |
| 20:35 | wahanui | storable is probably yellow and Graphics::Magick |
| 20:35 | rangi | its already a dependency so no harm using it |
| 20:35 | jcamins | I was thinking I needed a yellow module. |
| 20:35 | rangi | heh |
| 20:36 | jcamins | But does this mean that settings will be lost if someone upgrades their perl version? |
| 20:37 | rangi | hmmm |
| 20:37 | not sure | |
| 20:37 | jcamins | Looks like storable won't stick things in the database. |
| 20:55 | Should I create a new table just for this, or something a bit more general-purpose? | |
| 20:57 | rangi | hmm not sure |
| 21:08 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #152 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 21:25 | ibeardsl1e | slightly off topic, but trying to make sure this reaches as many NZ devs as possible .. http://no.softwarepatents.org.nz/ |
| 21:26 | cjh | ibeardslee: ty |
| 21:38 | halcyonCorsair | can anyone confirm for me, the ubuntu packages for: http://paste.dollyfish.net.nz/cb98ed |
| 21:38 | rangi: ? | |
| 21:38 | rangi | looking now |
| 21:39 | ah they aren't in ubuntu proper yet i dont think, i think eythian has submitted them up into debian so they will get there soon, but you can use | |
| 21:40 | http://debian.koha-community.o[…]a/pool/main/libt/ | |
| 21:40 | etc | |
| 21:40 | actually Template::Plugin::HtmlToText | |
| 21:40 | halcyonCorsair | libtext-unaccent-perl, libdatetime-format-mysql-perl, and ? |
| 21:40 | rangi | should be the only one not in ubuntu, the other 2 should be |
| 21:41 | libtemplate-plugin-htmltotext-perl | |
| 21:41 | wahanui | well, libtemplate-plugin-htmltotext-perl is the exception, but it still hasn't been accepted to 3.6.x. |
| 21:41 | halcyonCorsair | rangi: btw, http://lists.koha-community.or[…]-July/037783.html mentions an INSTALL.ubuntu.12.04 but I don't see it in git anywhere obvious |
| 21:41 | rangi | http://debian.koha-community.o[…]-htmltotext-perl/ grab it from here, if it is int in ubuntu yet |
| 21:41 | wajasu | anyone checked out http://bulknews.typepad.com/bl[…]/carton-talk.html (in japenses, but it might help with easier package dependecy management. (local perl iib, ... |
| 21:41 | rangi | halcyonCorsair: im not sure if the patch has been pushed yet |
| 21:42 | halcyonCorsair | ah right |
| 21:42 | rangi: in favour of htmltotext via package rather than cpan, yes? | |
| 21:42 | rangi | yep |
| 21:43 | bug 8489 | |
| 21:43 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8489 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Stable , Revised ubuntu-pkg-check.sh, renamed ubuntu package files, tweaked 12.04 package file, copied 12.04 package file to ubuntu.packages |
| 21:43 | rangi | and bug 8478 |
| 21:43 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8478 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Passed QA , Update Ubuntu related files |
| 22:06 | halcyonCorsair | rangi: is there keyserver I can get the key from? |
| 22:08 | rangi | wget -O- http://debian.koha-community.org/koha/gpg.asc | sudo apt-key add - |
| 22:08 | will get it for ya | |
| 22:09 | i think it might be eythians key lemme check | |
| 22:10 | yep it is | |
| 22:13 | A99CEB6D im pretty sure | |
| 22:15 | halcyonCorsair | rangi: I'm doing it via chef, so it's easier if I get it via a keyserver....but the default one seems to do the trick |
| 22:15 | rangi: koha is GPLv2, yes? | |
| 22:16 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.8.x build #152: SUCCESS in 1 hr 8 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.8.x/152/ |
| 22:16 | * ruth: Bug 8012: default values for defaultSortField/defaultSortOrder NULL on install | |
| 22:16 | * ruth: Bug 8569: Paying for lost item overwrites nonpublic notes. | |
| 22:16 | rangi | or later |
| 22:16 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8012 trivial, P5 - low, ---, ruth, Pushed to Stable , defaultSortOrder and OPACdefaultSortOrder are set to "ascending" on install |
| 22:16 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8569 minor, P5 - low, ---, ruth, Pushed to Stable , Paying for a lost item overwrites nonpublic notes | |
| 22:16 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #153 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 22:16 | rangi | it has the or later clause |
| 22:17 | halcyonCorsair | right |
| 22:19 | jcamins | halcyonCorsair: if you wanted to share your Koha recipes, I'm sure people would be grateful. :) |
| 22:20 | halcyonCorsair | jcamins: once I get it to a usable state, I'll be happy to |
| 22:22 | jcamins | halcyonCorsair++ |
| 22:28 | halcyonCorsair | oops...this vm only has 384m of ram allocated...installing mysql now won't end well |
| 22:32 | rangi | you can get it running in about 256 but its a tight squeeze |
| 22:32 | (koha that is) | |
| 22:35 | jcamins | Yeah... don't try that with Evergreen. |
| 22:37 | halcyonCorsair | jcamins: what distro, etc do you use? |
| 22:38 | rangi: any idea re: percentages of install base on debian based vs fedora or whatever? | |
| 22:38 | jcamins | halcyonCorsair: Debian. |
| 22:39 | One person uses Fedora. | |
| 22:40 | Other than that, I think everyone uses Debian or Ubuntu. | |
| 22:41 | rangi | hmm lots of installs on fedora, all the libraries in the philiplines are fedora |
| 22:41 | but only 1 developer i think | |
| 22:41 | it's hard to know | |
| 22:47 | wajasu | i'm still thinking about testing. functional/integration. is there something set up that allows me to write a test against a "test" database? Or are we just using some Mocking api? |
| 22:50 | rangi | both |
| 22:50 | you can right tests that work against the db with all the sample data installed | |
| 22:50 | or you can use DBD::Mock | |
| 22:51 | wajasu | is there an example test that you know of that does work against the DB? |
| 22:51 | are those the db_dependent ones/ | |
| 22:52 | rangi | yes |
| 22:53 | wajasu | ok. |
| 22:54 | if i write tests, for esitsing code, how should i submit them? enhancement? low pri? | |
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| 22:58 | rangi | there is a bug just for that |
| 22:58 | bug 5327 | |
| 22:58 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5327 major, P3, ---, bart.tj, Signed Off , Unit tests required for all C4 modules |
| 22:59 | rangi | just attach them to that one, its the never closing bug :) |
| 22:59 | wajasu | ok |
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| 23:22 | jcamins_away | Unless your test is overly ambitious, in which case create a new bug, so that bug 5327 isn't drowned in discussion. |
| 23:22 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5327 major, P3, ---, bart.tj, Signed Off , Unit tests required for all C4 modules |
| 23:24 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.8.x build #153: SUCCESS in 1 hr 7 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.8.x/153/ |
| 23:24 | kathryn: Bug 7368: fixed subsribe typo | |
| 23:24 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7368 trivial, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, ASSIGNED , General staff client typo omnibus |
| 23:26 | rangi | hmm 5 fails on master now |
| 23:26 | * rangi | looks i think some are db issues |
| 23:28 | wajasu | did that create_db / clean_db ever work? |
| 23:29 | rangi | it did, but don't use it |
| 23:29 | it no longer does | |
| 23:29 | wajasu | do we want to fix it? |
| 23:31 | rangi | i don't |
| 23:31 | wajasu | do we have any "transactional" code? begin trans, do work; rollback; ? |
| 23:31 | cjh | heh |
| 23:31 | mtj | hmm, whats the script called wajasu ? |
| 23:31 | and, hi #koha! :) | |
| 23:32 | wajasu | i was going to write some tests for overdure_notice.pl and letters,, etc but would like to go all the way to the db and verify what goes in, comes out. |
| 23:32 | persistence/repo tests. | |
| 23:33 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #811 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #773 2 mo 1 day ago) |
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