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01:16 | wajasu | rangi: if the bytes written to the notice are A3C2 hex, and C2 is marker for a 2byte UTF8 sequence, maybe i need to swap the order of the bytes when written to C2A3, so when read it becomes A3. |
01:16 | which is the british pound. | |
01:17 | or maybe everyting is stored fine, and its the reading done in process_message_queue.pl that needs working on. | |
01:20 | though i read there are no issues with byte-order in utf8 | |
01:21 | rangi | yeah there shouldn't be |
01:36 | jcamins_away | Archive.org++ |
01:36 | rangi | yeah it rules |
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01:43 | Waylon | hiya all! okay, git clone'd ... but how do i rewind head, back to 3.8.4 and keep it there? |
01:43 | rangi | git checkout -b 3.8.4 v3.08.04 |
01:44 | now you have a 3.8.4 branch at that point | |
01:44 | and you are on it | |
01:44 | Waylon | fatal: cannot create directory at 'koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/lib/yui/resize/assets/skins/sam': Is a directory |
01:44 | hrm. | |
01:46 | this is a problem? | |
01:47 | ah.. git reset --hard? | |
01:47 | rangi | i dunno what you have done since you git cloned |
01:47 | Waylon | nothing. |
01:48 | rangi | where did that dir come from? |
01:48 | its not in master | |
01:50 | you must have checked out 3.8.x previously | |
01:51 | Waylon | removes directory and redoes clone. |
01:51 | rangi | how are you cloning? |
01:51 | Waylon | git clone git://git.koha-community.org/koha.git kohaclone |
01:51 | as per wiki. | |
01:51 | jcamins_away | rangi: how is there a directory in 3.8.x that isn't in master? |
01:51 | rangi | good |
01:51 | jcamins_away: it was removed in master | |
01:52 | since the 3.8.0 release | |
01:52 | jcamins_away | rangi: ahhhh. |
01:52 | Thoery: | |
01:52 | rangi | part of the shift to jqueryui |
01:52 | jcamins_away | Waylon: did you remove the kohaclone directory before running git lcone? |
01:52 | clone | |
01:52 | Waylon | just did. |
01:53 | recloning. | |
01:54 | * jcamins_away | theorizes that you already had a git clone there, and it updated git but didn't check out master, since the repo now claimed to be pointing at the tip of master. |
01:54 | jcamins_away | Yay for wild speculation. |
01:54 | * jcamins_away | leaves |
01:56 | Waylon | okay, cloned master.. now i git checkout 3.8.x? |
01:59 | I just ignore "file exists" errors? | |
01:59 | jcamins_away | Waylon: you shouldn't get file exists errors. |
02:00 | Waylon | error: git checkout-index: unable to create file koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/lib/yui/element-delegate/element-delegate-min.js (File exists) |
02:00 | jcamins_away | Okay, I didn't really leave. You caught me. |
02:00 | Waylon | error: git checkout-index: unable to create file koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/admin/item_circulation_alerts.tt (File exists) |
02:00 | error: git checkout-index: unable to create file koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/prog/images/transaction-complete.gif (File exists) | |
02:00 | rangi | i get none of these errors when i checkout 3.8.x |
02:00 | just fyi | |
02:00 | jcamins_away | There are two options I can think of here: 1) you didn't delete the kohaclone directory. 2) your version of git is so completely out of date it can't handle a modern repo. |
02:01 | rangi | are you should you deleted the whole kohaclone dir? |
02:01 | Waylon | did delete the kohaclone.. |
02:01 | * Waylon | checks version of git. |
02:01 | Waylon | git version 1.7.2.5 |
02:01 | jcamins_away | Same version I have. |
02:06 | * Waylon | did git reset --hard 3.8.4 and has everything fixed. |
02:13 | Waylon | so.. i set everything up, so koha 3.8.4 works, then i replace the mysql db with my old mysql db, and then run the upgrade script? |
02:14 | rangi | hold old is your db, pre 3.4 ? |
02:15 | Waylon | yes.. 3.0.0 |
02:15 | rangi | you need to run the upgrade then remove_items_from_biblioitems.pl |
02:15 | and do a full zebra reindex | |
02:15 | * Waylon | nods |
02:16 | Waylon | zebra reindexing, also indexes the items too, at runtime? |
02:16 | though.. ive been thinking, is there a way to zebra search limit to shelves? | |
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02:49 | wajasu | does advanced search let you choose from items catageroized as "General Stacks" i.e. the shelves. |
02:53 | Waylon | thats my question indeed. |
02:53 | I know that in 3.0.0, i was able to limit by branch | |
02:53 | so we abused that to create libraries within the library. | |
02:54 | since we could create items and asign them to branches. | |
02:55 | wajasu | i see in my advanced search in bottom left corner, a location and availability (i.e. branch i think) |
03:39 | edveal | I have a question about the BorrowerUnwantedField system preference. Any used it yet? |
03:44 | rangi | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6190 that one? |
03:44 | huginn | 04Bug 6190: enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, srdjan, Pushed to Master , Custom field removal from patron entry screens |
03:49 | wajasu | rangi: i found away to get mysql to not cut off the notice after utf8. I used a Unicode::Normalize function (either NFC or NFD etc) and the whole notice gets stored. |
03:50 | the patron emails show the correct currency. | |
03:50 | rangi | cool |
03:50 | wajasu | AND the part that was confusing.... |
03:51 | when no patron email is configured, those notices are batched up and added as an attachment to be sent to the KohaAdminEmailAddress, and | |
03:52 | when the eamil was arriving in my mail client, the utf currency was seen as mobijake. why? | |
03:54 | because, the first header mail had the content-type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" but each attachment didn't specify utf8 . So now i am seeing if I can set the attachments to have utf8 too. | |
03:54 | so multiple problems made the issue foggy. | |
03:59 | also. after using NFC, when I select the contnet using mysql, it shows the correct symbol. | |
04:02 | i wonder if we have picked a standard to store everying normalized as NFC or NFD, or NFKC or NFKD). In this case Locale:Currency:Format currency_format was the source of out UTF. Normalizing must have done something to make mysql happy. | |
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04:10 | wajasu | cait: when you were testing overdue rules, how were you viewing the results? mysql select from message_queue? or getting and email? |
04:10 | i mean overdue_notice | |
04:11 | cait | using mysql workbench |
04:11 | and checking the contents of the table with sql | |
04:12 | wajasu | well, i found out if i normalize using Unicode::Normailze::NFC on the currency symbol, the notice doesn't get chopped off, and the email makes it through and works. |
04:12 | also using NFC made it so the symbol showed in the mysql client. | |
04:13 | i have one case left. when no patron email is configured, all the notices are batched up and added as an attachment. | |
04:13 | to KOHAAdminEmailAddress | |
04:14 | when the email arrives, the first message has content-type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" but each attachment didn't specify utf8 . So now i am seeing if I can set the attachments to have utf8 too. | |
04:15 | cait | cool :) |
04:15 | wajasu | that way when the inline email shows up viewable inthe mail client it will interpret correctly. |
04:16 | i'm going to work on the patch tomorrow, but i have a question about how to proceed. | |
04:17 | i am thinking i should just replace the current patch on Bug 8378 with these fixes since its really a couple of lines. | |
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04:17 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8378 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Failed QA , <fine> syntax not working on overdues anymore |
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04:20 | cait | wajasu: if the new patch is shortert, athat sounds good to me |
04:23 | wajasu | also, i think bug 8299 will go away, because i got rid of those uninitialized errors. and i could work on Bug 7707 now that I am so intimate with the code. |
04:23 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8299 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , overdue_notice.pl shows error messages |
04:23 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7707 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, henridamien, NEW , Add fines placeholders in notices to display fine information on notices | |
04:23 | wajasu | or do you think i need to do more signoffs first? |
04:25 | tomorrow then. | |
04:28 | cait | sorry, just woke up |
04:28 | getting ready for work | |
04:28 | I think one after the other - but it sure makes sense to look into the bugs in that area | |
04:28 | writing tests would be awesome too | |
04:29 | it's important to not break existing workflows | |
04:29 | so if we have a new syntax, the old one should still work | |
04:29 | wajasu | i'm sensitive to that. my users are on 3.0 waiting for this to work. :) |
04:35 | cait | bbl |
04:58 | kathryn | hey cait you didn't give me very long to feel anxious about my first patch-baby! ;) |
04:59 | cait | why would you be anxious? it's a perfectly fine patch :) |
04:59 | kathryn | hehe. have a good day! |
05:00 | cait | and about time you get your name in there :) |
05:00 | have a nice evening :) | |
05:01 | kathryn | me and my terminal window are not well acquainted...it was fun! |
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05:08 | Markus2 | /nick waylon |
05:08 | Oak | kia ora #koha |
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06:12 | alex_a | bonjour |
06:12 | wahanui | bonjour, alex_a |
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06:37 | reiveune | hello |
06:37 | wahanui | hey, reiveune |
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06:39 | marcelr | hi koha |
06:41 | julian_m | hello |
06:41 | wahanui | que tal, julian_m |
06:43 | matts | hi ! |
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06:54 | * magnuse | waves |
06:54 | marcelr | hi julian_m, matts and magnuse |
06:55 | magnuse | hiya marcelr |
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07:03 | gaetan_B | hello |
07:03 | wahanui | hey, gaetan_B |
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07:12 | Joubu | hello #koha |
07:21 | marcelr | hi joubu |
07:22 | clrh | hello |
07:22 | wahanui | bonjour, clrh |
07:22 | marcelr | hi clrh |
07:26 | clrh | hello marcelr |
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08:26 | magnuse | kathryn++ |
08:31 | mtompset | Well, it seems like I have my first 64-bit Ubuntu install about to happen. :) |
08:32 | out of curiousity, does anyone know what install_misc/environment_Makefile... is for? | |
08:35 | install_misc/environment_Makefile.PL | |
08:37 | And is install_misc/install_koha_on_fresh_debian even used? | |
08:38 | rangi | # this file provides environment variables to use perl Makefile.PL |
08:38 | # without interactive mode. it can be seen as config file. | |
08:43 | * mtompset | nods, "I read that afterwards. DOH!" |
08:44 | mtompset | Wow... 8GB of ram makes a huge difference. :) |
08:44 | I hope this wasn't a mistake. :) | |
08:45 | rangi | it will work even better if you tune mysql to use it well |
08:45 | eythian | yeah, all of a sudden all your data can live in cache |
08:45 | it makes a fair difference | |
08:45 | rangi | ye[ |
08:45 | yep even | |
08:45 | eythian | also, hello. |
08:45 | mtompset | Hello, eythian and rangi . :) |
08:45 | eythian | I'm typing on a german keyboard but using the US layout. Making the strangest typos sometimes. |
08:46 | mtompset | Or should that be kia ora, rangi? :) |
08:46 | rangi | heh |
08:52 | magnuse | eythian: any idea when you will get the time to package 3.8.4? |
08:53 | eythian | magnuse: I'm expecting to do it today, I'm waiting for Katrin to get back from whatever she's doing so I can show her how it's done. |
08:56 | magnuse | eythian: very cool! |
08:56 | eythian: how long are you staying in europe again? | |
08:57 | eythian | Until the 20th or so of September I think |
08:58 | magnuse | ah, not long anough for http://swib.org/swib12/ then |
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09:25 | eythian | Heh, I have changed exactly 1 line in the 3.6.8 release |
09:26 | slef | rangi: Zambian... looking... |
09:28 | rangi: Sitali Chrispin Simasiku? | |
09:28 | rangi: pretty sure he's been on list as libsitaligmail | |
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09:32 | rangi | thanks slef |
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10:23 | koyauni | hi KOHA people |
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10:53 | mtompset | Is anyone familiar with "tmpl_process3.pl: Warning: unconsistent %s count: (##/##):"? |
10:55 | marcelr | mtompset: i saw that a lot too |
10:56 | mtompset: english and translation do not contain same number of %s | |
10:56 | slef | with the #s? |
10:56 | mtompset | french installed fine. th-THA installed fine. |
10:56 | slef | seems like there should be numbers in there |
10:56 | mtompset | 11/9 |
10:56 | 79/81 | |
10:56 | I was making it generic. | |
10:57 | What file do I have to edit to fix it? | |
10:57 | a po file? | |
10:58 | eythian | mtompset: yeah |
10:59 | you'll have to find the message that's wrong, once you've done that it's pretty obvious | |
10:59 | I think it usually tells you the message that's wrong | |
11:00 | slef | is there a common reason for "11:59:52-23/08 zebraidx(23058) [warn] Record didn't contain match fields in (bib1,Local-number)" which I've forgotten while on holiday? :) |
11:01 | eythian | There probably is, but I've never worked out what. |
11:02 | slef | could it be the reason why zebra doesn't seem to know any of that library's books? |
11:03 | eythian | I think it is |
11:04 | when it says "warning" it means "warning, I'm going to do nothing. But I don't really want to call it fatal." | |
11:04 | slef | -v -v -x -k, here we come |
11:04 | mtompset | That's weird. I thought lines that started with # are comments, even in .po files. |
11:05 | rangi | slef: were you running it with -x before? |
11:05 | cos the common reason for that message is that the bib number is in 999 | |
11:05 | slef | rangi: whatever the packages do |
11:05 | eythian | also yeah, -x Changes Things in Ways |
11:05 | ah yeah, they use XML by default | |
11:06 | slef | this is a pre-packages database imported |
11:06 | rangi | and if you are not doing -x then the reason is usually the marc is too long, but if you are doing -x it just means that the 999c is missing |
11:06 | slef | I run with -x when I debug to make it easier to read... nice to know the packages use -x by default |
11:07 | why thank you zebra, I wanted a load of control characters to reprogram my terminal character set :-/ | |
11:08 | eythian | oh yeah, that's a pain |
11:08 | slef | yeah I usually run it through less but forgot |
11:10 | well I can't see the bib number in the exported records anywhere | |
11:10 | oh wait... 090 maybe | |
11:11 | yeah looks like it | |
11:11 | wahanui | yeah looks like it is accessed by a reference to SEARCH_RESULT |
11:11 | slef | wahanui: ROFL |
11:11 | wahanui | ROFL is rolling on floor laughing |
11:11 | slef | so I guess I get to reconfigure something now |
11:17 | now, usual big question: do I assume that who/whatever put it in 090 knew what they were doing? ;) | |
11:17 | eythian | I wouldn't |
11:17 | I really need to write a MARC transformation system at some point. | |
11:19 | slef | amen but use XSL on MARCXML and it'll be even more general |
11:19 | eythian | yeeees.... |
11:19 | but a fair bit more terrible... | |
11:20 | MARCXML is not the most semantically rich of formats really. | |
11:20 | slef | true but then people could eventually transform and input random XML formats of biblio data |
11:20 | eythian | I'm also looking for an excuse to play with MARC::MIR |
11:21 | slef | transform MARCXML to something cuter then... but then we break zebra don't we? |
11:21 | eythian | Well, I wasn't thinking of zebra really, more so you can easily do something that would, say, move the biblio number from 090 to 900$c when you see it's wrong. |
11:28 | koyauni | self: hi, you gave me good direction on my Koha installation, I still have issue with viewing koha via my subdoamin, do you think a new defined port will solve this issue, |
11:29 | at the moment it is on 80, but if I make that 888 might work better as 80 is default | |
11:29 | slef | koyauni: only if Plesk knows nothing about that port and doesn't mess with it. I think it probably will, though. Plesk is rather invasive, like a biological parasite. |
11:30 | koyauni: try it and see (make sure your backups are good, first!) | |
11:30 | koyauni | look what Plesk said to me http://forum.parallels.com/sho[…]sted=1#post636922 |
11:31 | now you scare me and I do not dare to do that ! :( | |
11:32 | slef | koyauni: what's the worst than can happen? You're already using Plesk, so you're already in an awful place ;) |
11:33 | eythian | If plesk doesn't let you set up apache2 to listen on port 80, then there is something seriously wrong with it. |
11:33 | koyauni | hahah :) |
11:33 | eythian | I mean, that's what you want a webserver for in the first place |
11:33 | koyauni | I have all other projects there and I do not want to mess up them as well |
11:34 | no I have installed koha and all went well, please see here at the bottom http://kl1p.com/koyauni | |
11:34 | the of enabled library | |
11:34 | the out put | |
11:36 | eythian | yeah, that's fine. But I know nothing about plesk to be able to tell you how to get it out of your way. |
11:36 | koyauni | some how the real domain created in Pleck is not connecting with virtual domain created by Koha in Apache2 |
11:36 | eythian | I don't even understand how it could be in your way, to be honest. Apache should be failing to start if plesk has bound to port 80. |
11:37 | unless it's being intercepted by the virtual host or something | |
11:37 | in which case, maybe you can configure plesk itself to go away and stop being annoying. | |
11:37 | slef | eythian: there is something seriously wrong with it. |
11:37 | koyauni | I searched the whole wen in 3 days now, no info on this issue but many people ask question |
11:38 | slef | I've done similar things before, I don't remember the specifics, it would cost me quite a bit to dig through the notes to find it, it is almost exactly no fun and plesk is broken in many other ways, so all of our Plesk-using clients have upgraded to better things. |
11:39 | Also, it was a different verion of Plesk and they have a bad habit of changing things in incompatible ways and not documenting them. | |
11:39 | koyauni | in domain folder a conf folder exist and one of these direction I found says I can create a vhotes.conf and put some new rule in there so Pleck can follow, but it does not say what rule :( |
11:40 | slef | the ones from /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/YOURLIBRARYNAME probably |
11:40 | koyauni | upgraded to what? what is better |
11:40 | cPanel | |
11:40 | slef | DTC |
11:40 | eythian | ssh |
11:40 | slef | or no control panel for the simpler ones |
11:41 | a couple use LDAP-based configurations now | |
11:41 | it depends on the needs | |
11:41 | koyauni | I have SSH access to root |
11:41 | slef | but the only need Plesk, cPanel and things like that serve is "I need Plesk" |
11:41 | Yes and you can make changes with ssh access as root, but then Plesk will overwrite some of them. | |
11:42 | koyauni | I did copy the content from /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/YOURLIBRARYNAME to a vhosts.conf file, but it gave me error messages |
11:42 | slef | The system works against you. It acts as though it knows best. |
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11:42 | slef | koyauni: fix the error messages. At best, you'll need a different vhosts.conf file (so a different Plesk subdomain?) for OPAC and Intranet. |
11:43 | so paste the contents between each <VirtualHost ...>...</VirtualHost> pair into a different vhosts.conf | |
11:44 | anyway, lunchtime here, and I'm just getting cross about Plesk again, so I'm going to go eat! Bye! | |
11:44 | koyauni | thanks |
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12:21 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
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12:21 | druthb | o/ |
12:23 | oleonard | Hi druthb |
12:23 | druthb | hiya. |
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13:02 | WaqarAzeem | Hi everyone... i am getting "IP address not found" message on freshly downloaded "Koha_3.8_Virtual_Appliance_-_Configured.ova" |
13:03 | jcamins | WaqarAzeem: I think you need to manually configure the IP address using one of the options in the control panel. |
13:04 | WaqarAzeem: however, I only looked at the virtual appliance once, briefly, so I don't remember any more than that. | |
13:04 | khall would know. | |
13:04 | WaqarAzeem | this message appeared on boot |
13:05 | khall | WaqarAzeem: did you try the option to fix the ip address not found error that is in the control panel? |
13:05 | the console the is | |
13:05 | * jcamins | thought he remembered an option like that. |
13:06 | WaqarAzeem | yes i tried it ... |
13:07 | khall | quit the console and delete everything in the file /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules then reboot, and you should be fixed up, assuming it's a problem with the vm and not something else. |
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13:33 | mtompset | Hey, that was the exact same thing I was looking for. ;) |
13:33 | khall++ | |
13:34 | khall | excellent! |
13:34 | oleonard | How about you WaqarAzeem, any luck? |
13:37 | mtompset | But my problem is more likely a VirtualBox problem than a koha problem. |
13:37 | Oh wait... loose cable. | |
13:37 | That might be it... | |
13:38 | oleonard | Loose virtual cable? |
13:38 | mtompset | bridged adapter only works over a wired interface. |
13:38 | I have wireless and wired into my netbook. | |
13:39 | jcamins | mtompset: did you restart VirtualBox? Switching between different interfaces on my laptop causes the NATed interface on my VM to freeze. |
13:40 | mtompset | Hmm.... well at least the wired one is back. |
13:40 | good enough to play. | |
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13:47 | * wizzyrea | wonders what people said about her yesterday |
13:47 | goes to look at the logs | |
13:48 | druthb | hee hee |
13:48 | nengard | LOL |
13:50 | * oleonard | doesn't get it |
13:52 | gmcharlt | @quote random |
13:52 | huginn | gmcharlt: Quote #187: "<slef> did wahanui just burst into flames?" (added by gmcharlt at 08:29 PM, February 20, 2012) |
13:52 | gmcharlt | wahanui? |
13:52 | wahanui | gmcharlt? |
13:52 | gmcharlt | wahanui: no, you are not gmcharlt |
13:52 | wahanui | ...but wahanui is a bot|a repository of important and useful and accurate information or at least partially slow.... |
13:52 | mtompset | http://youtu.be/mQZmCJUSC6g |
13:52 | That's for going hunting through the IRC logs, wizzyrea. ;( | |
13:52 | Oops. ;) | |
13:53 | wizzyrea | hehe |
13:53 | apparently it was 4 of my plethora of added quotes ;) | |
13:53 | * oleonard | is getting a little hypnotized by the random bug widget on the dashboard |
13:54 | * mtompset | mutters, "You will fix all the random bugs." |
13:54 | wizzyrea | it's just that I hate feeling like I might have missed something important like, say, OMG WEBSITE IS BROKEN |
13:54 | though i certainly hope that someone would *email* or *tweet* at me if that were the case. | |
13:56 | mtompset | I'm sure if it was important, you'd be notified somehow. ;) |
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14:01 | wizzyrea | and certainly, 4 mentions in a day that I missed is unusual. |
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14:05 | mtompset | Greetings, tcohen. |
14:05 | tcohen | hi mtompset |
14:05 | mtompset | Turns out my next server to install is 64-bit. :) |
14:05 | tcohen | hehe |
14:06 | mtompset | It was going pretty smoothly using the 3.6.8 files in 3.8.4 |
14:06 | but I didn't do a dselect. | |
14:06 | I created the list by running the ubuntu-pkg-check.sh script | |
14:06 | tweaked each line to sudo apt-get install. | |
14:07 | Didnt have to install dselect at all. ;) | |
14:07 | check the koha_perl_deps.pl | |
14:08 | noticed two things missing. | |
14:08 | apt-get install'd those. | |
14:08 | and only 2 things actually came from debian.koha-community.org -- the cgi... memcache thing and the template... htmltotext one. | |
14:09 | tcohen | yeah. only those |
14:09 | mtompset | Then I said.. bah... I'll give packages a whirl, rather than compile it all up myself. |
14:09 | tcohen | I hope they get pushed soon |
14:09 | (the INSTALL instructions) | |
14:09 | mtompset | So I apt-get'd koha-common, and started tweaking. |
14:10 | tcohen | (and ubuntu.*.packages |
14:10 | mtompset | Well, it's not like this is a koha feature, so I figure if we get it in within the next week or so, it should be there for 3.8.5 |
14:11 | anyone remember where interfaces is? | |
14:12 | tcohen | /etc/network/ |
14:15 | mtompset | tcohen++ |
14:15 | Thanks. | |
14:29 | tcohen | Can anyone tell me if you're having this issue (3.8.4) http://ffyh.biblio.unc.edu.ar/[…]iblionumber=67513 |
14:31 | oleonard | Yikes |
14:33 | mtompset | What's with all the contentblocks?! |
14:34 | oleonard | Something about the "contents" display |
14:34 | mtompset | Okay, but that's a recursive descent into madness! |
14:35 | * oleonard | warns all not to look directly at it! |
14:36 | mtompset | Oh my evilness, it's full of contentblocks. ;) |
14:37 | tcohen | Use of uninitialized value $linkvalue in substitution (s///) at /usr/share/koha_ffyh/lib/C4/Biblio.pm line 1790 |
14:37 | Use of uninitialized value $opac_serial_default in string eq at /usr/share/koha_ffyh/opac/cgi-bin/opac/opac-detail.pl line 955 | |
14:38 | (the only errors I get in the logs) | |
14:39 | mtompset | Don't have access to a 3.8.4 right now... grabbing source code to read. |
14:41 | tcohen | opacSerialDefaultTab was set but not in the DB |
14:41 | I guess an upgrade error | |
14:41 | (not setting a default value) | |
14:41 | (that was not the problem anyway) | |
14:44 | eythian | 3.8.4 packages are out now |
14:45 | druthb | eythian++ |
14:46 | tcohen | oleonard, its a xslt problem |
14:47 | oleonard | tcohen: Do you see what the problem is? |
14:47 | tcohen | not yet |
14:47 | but found the foreach that loops and creates the contentblock | |
14:49 | mtompset | where is it? |
14:49 | wahanui | it has been said that it is not. |
14:49 | mtompset | Because I've noticed in C4::Biblio that there is no error checking on the code/value pairs, not just at 1790. |
14:50 | oleonard | wahanui: forget it |
14:50 | wahanui | oleonard: I forgot it |
14:51 | mtompset | $linkvalue =~ s/(\(|\))//g; probably should have a "if $linkvalue" on the end there. |
14:52 | tcohen | is it ok that $linkvalue = undef? should we handle it specially? |
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14:52 | tcohen | maybe its a bug, or a record problem that should be noticed |
14:52 | oleonard | Hi LBA |
14:53 | mtompset | Yes, perhaps it is a data problem, but data problems should not trigger meaningless error messages. They should trigger, "Hey, there is a data problem," error. |
14:56 | What do you mean "opacSerialDefaultTab was set but not in the DB"? Was it NULL in the DB? | |
14:59 | Okay, this is weird... Line 669 in opac-detail.pl -- Does the subscription number need to param'd twice? | |
15:00 | reiveune1 | bye |
15:00 | mtompset | au revoir, reiveune1 |
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15:02 | mtompset | Okay, subscription number will be defined, as I believe a SELECT count(*) ... always returns a number. |
15:02 | tcohen | oleonard, what is the purpose of that contentblock tag there? |
15:02 | Joubu | good bye ! |
15:05 | oleonard | I'm looking tcohen |
15:06 | tcohen | completely removing it, or moving it outside the loop fixes it |
15:06 | mtompset | the page looks healed. |
15:06 | Mostly? | |
15:06 | oleonard | Bug 6617 |
15:06 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6617 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Passed QA , table of contents not printing right if entered right |
15:06 | tcohen | it is healed mtompste |
15:08 | oleonard | The "contentblock" div was introduced in the patch for 6617 |
15:09 | tcohen | it looks the problem is not the contentblock itself but the css? |
15:09 | oleonard | A CSS problem wouldn't cause dozens of redundant tags to appear |
15:10 | tcohen | but... |
15:10 | there is one contentblock for each 505 field | |
15:10 | which looks like it was intended | |
15:11 | oleonard | I wonder if it could be a data problem? |
15:12 | mtompset | or an XSLT bug? |
15:19 | oleonard | tcohen: I suggest you ask jcamins_away when he's around |
15:19 | tcohen | thanks oleonard |
15:19 | oleonard | I'm wondering if multiple 505s were not tested when 6617 was patched. |
15:24 | mtompset | Yes, but just looking at the code, not that I complete understand it, but how would it nest like that? |
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15:25 | mtompset | The subfieldSelectSpan call doesn't create another contentblock. |
15:25 | and the closing div is inside the for-each loop. | |
15:30 | tcohen | subfieldSelectSpan is giving no results nad is sort-of aborting |
15:30 | s/nad/and/ | |
15:31 | which is reasonable as we're asking for tru subfields | |
15:31 | and this record only has a $a subfield | |
15:37 | jcamins | I am around. |
15:38 | oleonard: I tested with multiple 505s containing just $a, $t$r, and a mixture. | |
15:38 | oleonard | tcohen's trouble record: http://ffyh.biblio.unc.edu.ar/[…]iblionumber=67513 |
15:38 | jcamins | Ooh, I bet I know what the problem is. You're using an old version of FF? |
15:38 | oleonard | Not me |
15:38 | mtompset | Not me. |
15:38 | jcamins | Looks good to me. |
15:39 | mtompset | I'm looking at it from Windoze. ;) |
15:39 | jcamins | mtompset: on IE? |
15:39 | oleonard | Oh wow, it looks fine in Opera |
15:39 | mtompset | I could have tried. |
15:39 | I used FireFox. | |
15:39 | jcamins | That's what I just said. |
15:39 | oleonard | jcamins: What's the story? |
15:40 | jcamins | oleonard: FF doesn't support XHTML. |
15:40 | I thought I had put an extra space in to get around the problem, but I guess it doesn't work on this particular combination. | |
15:41 | tcohen | jcamins, oleonard: the record has a 0 in the second indicator |
15:41 | mtompset | It doesn't?! |
15:41 | oleonard | Oh wait that page looks fine in FF now too. tcohen did you change something? |
15:41 | tcohen | and as expected the xslt is not looking for the (incorrect?) $a they used |
15:42 | jcamins | $a is used instead of $t/$r. |
15:43 | When there is a zero in the second indicator, $a is not supposed to be consulted. | |
15:43 | tcohen | right, and empty result from subfieldSelectSpan skips the rest of the sentences in the loop |
15:44 | so the closing div is not written | |
15:44 | jcamins | Actually, the closing div is written and FF tosses it. |
15:44 | At least, I'm pretty sure that's the problem. | |
15:44 | tcohen | in my ff, the div is not written |
15:45 | :-P | |
15:45 | jcamins | You're looking at the source, or Firebug? |
15:45 | mtompset | Yes, but about 40 minutes ago, you fixed the page, tcohen. |
15:45 | we want it broken again. ;) | |
15:45 | tcohen | ok ok |
15:45 | i'll remove the $a from that xslt | |
15:46 | there you go... | |
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15:46 | * kf | waves |
15:46 | mtompset | Now to look at it in IE. |
15:46 | jcamins | tcohen: oh, I misunderstood what you were saying the problem was. |
15:47 | mtompset | Oh, it is busted in IE too. |
15:47 | So what is the tweak that you made? | |
15:47 | jcamins | FF has a bug where it discards closing divs. |
15:47 | And closing spans. | |
15:47 | tcohen | oh, I didn't know that |
15:47 | jcamins | And basically everything you might want to close. |
15:47 | I thought you were talking about that. | |
15:47 | And I didn't know that you had fixed it since I showed up. ;) | |
15:48 | Okay, the way to fix it is to add atru to the subfieldSelectSpan. | |
15:48 | Which I guess is what you did sometime before the first line in the window when I came back. :) | |
15:48 | tcohen | i just added the a subfield for that case, and *ordered* my librarians to fix their cataloging practices hehe |
15:49 | found a bug in the xslt anyway | |
15:49 | mtompset | So, you just put an a on line 591?! |
15:49 | jcamins | Yeah. |
15:49 | tcohen | yes mtompset |
15:49 | wahanui | mtompset is trying to do a variety of projects in less than three months! |
15:50 | tcohen | jcamins: a marc question and a problem |
15:51 | if we're about to enforce the not-see-the-$a-if-second-indicator=0 thing | |
15:51 | mtompset | Okay, explain to me why the XSLT skips the /div if the call-template returns/does nothing? |
15:51 | tcohen | shoudnt' we make it retrn something (an empty span?) to die more gracefuly? |
15:51 | jcamins | tcohen: we certainly should. |
15:51 | What I have to figure out is why it's not returning any <div> at all. | |
15:52 | Wait. | |
15:52 | It is. | |
15:52 | Well I'll be. | |
15:52 | mtompset | nested ugly. |
15:52 | jcamins | It's XSLTproc. |
15:53 | tcohen | XSLTProc is calling the xslt with a wrong parameter? |
15:53 | jcamins | XSLTProc is producing vaguely invalid XML. |
15:53 | Well, XHTML. | |
15:53 | There's no space before the close. | |
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15:54 | mtompset | Bad data is useful for finding library module bugs. :) |
15:54 | jcamins | Yep. |
15:54 | tcohen | jcamins, will you fix it? |
15:55 | jcamins | tcohen: as soon as I figure out how. :) |
15:56 | mtompset | :) |
15:56 | tcohen | :-P |
15:56 | mtompset | I was joking. :) |
15:56 | jcamins | But we might want it to break. |
15:58 | mtompset |   then. :P |
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15:59 | eythian | do you people not remember MSDOS? |
15:59 | You use ALT-255 | |
15:59 | * mtompset | laughs, "That rocks!" |
16:02 | wajasu | for the fix I am working on, I decided to perform Unicode::Normalize NFC on the letter content and subject in Letters.pm EnqueueLetter adn _add_attachments routines. so utf8 codes don't get cut off inmysql when stored. |
16:06 | tcohen | jcamins, where's that XSLTProc thing? |
16:06 | jcamins | tcohen: the problem is that it is self-closing the tags without any space. |
16:07 | tcohen: there would still be an issue in FF, but the lack of the space throws off everything. What we need is a setting to disable self-closing tags. | |
16:07 | * jcamins | is looking for this. |
16:07 | tcohen | jcamins, the staff interface is equally broken |
16:07 | jcamins | tcohen: yeah, it will be. |
16:09 | Ah-ha. | |
16:10 | I think I figured it out. And I think the solution is embarrassing. | |
16:10 | We weren't outputting HTML. | |
16:11 | kf | hmpf |
16:11 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5408 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Refactor C4::Circulation::GetIssuingRule |
16:12 | jcamins | tcohen: I think the solution might be to change the output method from xml to html. |
16:12 | mtompset | Isn't that going backwards? |
16:12 | tcohen | in XSLT.pm? |
16:12 | wizzyrea | bleh. |
16:12 | jcamins | mtompset: no. |
16:13 | tcohen: in MARC21slim2OPACDetail.xsl | |
16:13 | I'm trying to test it now. | |
16:14 | mtompset | line 10 from xml to html?! |
16:14 | tcohen | jcamins, what happens to that xml output? |
16:14 | is it just pasted inside the body of an HTML? | |
16:14 | jcamins | tcohen: yup. |
16:15 | tcohen | oh |
16:15 | +1 for outputting HTML then!!! | |
16:15 | jcamins | I'm just testing it works, but it looks like it does. |
16:16 | mtompset | Why not change the closing divs, etc. to be xml? |
16:16 | </span> ==> <span/> | |
16:16 | jcamins | mtompset: because web browsers won't handle them? |
16:17 | mtompset | you're probably right, and changing to HTML is quicker and simpler than modifying all those lines. |
16:17 | jcamins | mtompset: also, there's no way we can modify those lines to fix it. |
16:18 | mtompset | Now I'm confused again. |
16:18 | jcamins | Yeah, fixes the problem. |
16:18 | mtompset: I *did* put in a space. | |
16:18 | mtompset | How can we now change the </div> into <div/> |
16:18 | jcamins | XSLT ignored it. |
16:18 | Those are two completely different things. | |
16:19 | The first closes an open <div>. | |
16:19 | The second is a <div> with no content. | |
16:19 | kf | does xhtml allow for that? |
16:19 | jcamins | kf: not so much, no. |
16:19 | mtompset | I guess, I'm out of touch with the standard. |
16:19 | jcamins | Which is why we have to change the output method to html. |
16:20 | mtompset | actually... that in a bizarre way explains why the div's got nested so ugly. |
16:20 | jcamins | mtompset: yes, that's what I just said. :P |
16:20 | mtompset | xml blanked out, skips to next xml by passing html. |
16:21 | You implied, you didn't say. :P | |
16:21 | I was more explicit. :P | |
16:23 | jcamins | tcohen: patching now. |
16:23 | mtompset | So, actually, this brings a question to mind. How would we write a test for this case? |
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16:24 | jcamins | mtompset: that's the tricky bit. |
16:24 | mtompset | (preferable automated, of course) |
16:24 | gaetan_B | bye ! |
16:24 | mtompset | Bye, gaetan_B |
16:28 | tcohen: I think someone is cleaning the data up? I see a couple lines now. :) | |
16:29 | jcamins | tcohen: Patch attached to bug 8678. |
16:29 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8678 major, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , XSLT stylesheets output XML, but HTML is needed |
16:30 | mtompset | Ah... you fixed multiple files... I was wondering why the patch was so big for a single line change. :) |
16:31 | jcamins | 12 files. |
16:31 | mtompset | Exactly... |
16:32 | kf | oleonard: still around? |
16:32 | mtompset | when you fix one line in 12 files.. 10K becomes more reasonable. |
16:32 | oleonard | kf: Here. |
16:32 | kf | I was wondering if you could take a look at the javascript problem witht he calendar |
16:32 | I am not sure if there is some way to do it with our new calendar | |
16:33 | lots of code is different now | |
16:33 | it's 8482 | |
16:33 | hm no | |
16:33 | bug 8428 | |
16:33 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8428 critical, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , can't save contracts |
16:35 | oleonard | Sure kf I'll take a look |
16:36 | kf | thx :) |
16:49 | oleonard | Yeah, 8428 is my bad |
16:52 | mtompset | oleonard++ # admitting mistakes is a good thing. Fixing them is better. :) |
17:02 | pastebot | "wajasu" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "csv headers in overdue notice attachment even for non-csv file output" (42 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/132 |
17:03 | wajasu | should i create a bug/patch for what i show in my pasted text? |
17:06 | oleonard | kf: Patch sent |
17:18 | mtompset | oleonard++ |
17:18 | jcamins++ | |
17:19 | kf | oleonard++ |
17:19 | thx | |
17:19 | I was not sure if there was a new way to do it | |
17:19 | son ot sure how to solve it best | |
17:19 | ok, have to leave :) bbl :) | |
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17:21 | * oleonard | supposes he ought to eat lunch |
17:21 | mtompset | you've earned it. :) |
17:22 | That was pretty quick on the patch. :) | |
17:25 | oleonard | If it fails QA I'll know I was too quick ;) |
17:27 | mtompset | Ah, yes. |
17:27 | Less speed, more haste. | |
17:41 | tcohen | jcamins++ |
17:41 | i was having lunch | |
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17:53 | mtompset | Greetings, cait |
17:53 | cait | hi mtompset |
17:59 | tcohen | jcamins: take a look at this: http://ffyh.biblio.unc.edu.ar/[…]iblionumber=67513 |
18:01 | jcamins | ... odd. |
18:03 | cait | oh yes |
18:03 | quite odd | |
18:03 | hm | |
18:03 | the 505 do look ok for that record | |
18:04 | tcohen | jcamins: my mistake |
18:04 | I used your patched MARCslim2OPACDetail.xsl file, which was for master.. | |
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18:05 | tcohen | which doesnt have bug 6617 applied |
18:05 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6617 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Passed QA , table of contents not printing right if entered right |
18:05 | jcamins | Oh, right. |
18:05 | Sorry. | |
18:05 | tcohen | would you submit patches fro 3.8.x? |
18:05 | jcamins | It should backport. |
18:06 | tcohen | i'll sign for master in a few minutes, as soon as I have my master setup running with that record |
18:15 | done | |
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18:37 | JoeLib001 | Hello. :-) |
18:37 | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8680 | |
18:37 | huginn | 04Bug 8680: normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Z39.50 searches for ISBN/ISSN problematic in the Acquistions Module |
18:37 | JoeLib001 | The Z39.50 Search Script was fixed in the /usr/share/koha/cgi-bin/cataloguing folder, but not in /usr/share/koha/cgi-bin/acqui folder. |
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18:40 | tcohen | jcamins, I signed off that patch, worked well on 3.8 also |
18:42 | nengard | oleonard bug 8428 should i submmit a new bug report for the other issue i found? |
18:42 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8428 critical, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , can't save contracts |
18:43 | oleonard | nengard: Yeah I think that would be good |
18:43 | nengard | no problemo :) |
18:45 | JoeLib001 | jcamins: Could you make a patch for Bug 8680 as well? It is pretty much needs the same fixes as were in bug 8550. |
18:45 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8680 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Z39.50 searches for ISBN/ISSN problematic in the Acquistions Module |
18:45 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8550 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Passed QA , Z39.50 searches for ISBN/ISSN problematic | |
18:46 | JoeLib001 | jcamins: I can test it too. :-) |
18:49 | jcamins | JoeLib001: I'll take a look. |
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18:58 | JoeLib001 | Yay. :-) |
19:00 | wajasu | ok. i finally got bug 8378 readdy for signoff. |
19:00 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8378 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , <fine> syntax not working on overdues anymore |
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19:12 | JoeLib001 | Wow, that was a pile of messes. hehe. :-) |
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19:44 | mtompset | Ah... Data::Pagination is for Solr. |
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20:00 | rangi | morning |
20:00 | wajasu | hi |
20:00 | eythian | I propose we move from MARC to MORK: http://search.cpan.org/%7Esimo[…]/lib/File/Mork.pm |
20:00 | hi | |
20:00 | wahanui | niihau, eythian |
20:01 | nengard | eythian your comment about checking the manual made me laugh |
20:01 | eythian | :) |
20:01 | nengard | after i got your message i went to the manual to add it and found that it was there already :) |
20:01 | even I can't remember everything I've written | |
20:03 | koyauni | hi guys, what are views on Liblem Koha 4.1 |
20:03 | is that package more advance | |
20:04 | * oleonard | will have to check the logs for this one |
20:04 | eythian | nengard: I just checked the database schema to see if you'd got there yet, didn't realise it was even exposed in the UI to warrant a mention in the manual |
20:05 | nengard | well it's used in reporting |
20:05 | eythian | ah, of course |
20:05 | nengard | so I have a section in the FAQ on values that might be used in reports |
20:05 | as for schema, I have documented a lot more tables then schema shows | |
20:05 | but not those tables | |
20:06 | eythian | koyauni: short answer: "no". Long answer: "noooooooooooooo". Serious answer: I haven't used it, nor looked at it, but it's a fork of Koha from a few years ago, so I wouldn't count on it. |
20:07 | nengard | anyone remember what bug report mentioned the problem where star ratings weren't saving? I remember a bug report and a fix - was that the 3.02 error message bug? |
20:10 | eythian | nengard: hmm, there was a thing about star ratings causing a JS error |
20:10 | but, I don't recall a not saving thing | |
20:11 | nengard | bug 8315 |
20:11 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8315 major, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Pushed to Stable , fix 'C4::Output 3.02' errors in Koha |
20:11 | nengard | but maybe that's not it |
20:11 | eythian | no, that was tags |
20:11 | (mostly, anyway) | |
20:12 | and it caused errors when viewing the afflicted URLs | |
20:13 | rangi | heh |
20:13 | Voucher must be redeemed by 12pm midnight. | |
20:13 | someone doesnt understand time | |
20:15 | nengard | eythian the patch did fix the ratings JS too |
20:15 | even though it wasn't talked about in the bug | |
20:15 | it was a file that was touched | |
20:15 | Okay, for now I'll just leave that one alone - time for me to call it a day :) talk to you all tomorrow! | |
20:16 | eythian | no, that was bug 8547 |
20:16 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8547 major, P2, ---, robin, Passed QA , Enabling star ratings causes javascript errors that cause IE to have a boo boo |
20:16 | eythian | I know cos I wrote it :) |
20:16 | later | |
20:18 | rangi | eythian: im doing 55 today, anything cool i should mention from you? |
20:18 | eythian | hmm |
20:19 | We have the first German Koha workshop/user group next week that cait and I are doing. | |
20:19 | rangi | oh good idea |
20:19 | will mention that | |
20:19 | cait | bad cait makes eythian work a lot for that :( |
20:19 | heh | |
20:21 | only feeling a bit bad because I haven't any slides yet and eythian has :) | |
20:21 | eythian | on the plus side, it's forced me to refactor my presentation LaTeX code to be modular rather than copy-pasta |
20:21 | rangi | :) |
20:22 | eythian | I can now \usepackage{catalyst,koha} and get a catalyst-themed, koha-focussed presentation format automagically. |
20:22 | I don't know if that counts as procrastination or not :) | |
20:22 | rangi | heh |
20:22 | cait | it's productive procrastination :) |
20:24 | jcamins_away | eythian: I thought we were using the HTML slide generator? |
20:24 | rangi | thats what i use |
20:24 | eythian | Who is this "we", kemosabe? :) |
20:24 | jcamins_away | koyauni: in case no one made this clear, if you use LibLime Koha, no one will be able to offer you any help. |
20:25 | * eythian | has been using LaTeX forever, no desire to change now. |
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20:26 | cait | hi kathryn :) |
20:26 | eythian | g'day kathryn |
20:26 | wizzyrea | but rangi, midnight is at NIGHT so it must be PM |
20:26 | AMIRITE | |
20:26 | j/k j/k | |
20:26 | rangi | :) |
20:26 | eythian | PMIRITE! |
20:26 | rangi | the best thing was |
20:26 | * wizzyrea | giggles |
20:26 | rangi | its a voucher for a jug of sangria |
20:26 | wizzyrea | ohh yeahhhh |
20:26 | so, 12pm or midnight? | |
20:26 | kekekekekeke | |
20:27 | rangi | ill ask for 2 |
20:27 | wizzyrea | drunk in the afternoon, or merely early morning |
20:27 | * wizzyrea | debates |
20:27 | * jcamins | gets caught in a phone menu loop. |
20:28 | jcamins | Main menu -> press extension for director -> main menu. |
20:28 | rangi | ODBC-BY |
20:28 | STOP CREATING LICENSES YOU FOOLS | |
20:28 | jcamins | Ooh, I know this one! |
20:29 | Microsoft! | |
20:29 | Right? | |
20:29 | mtompset | ODBC?! |
20:29 | jcamins | It's like Jeopardy. |
20:29 | Only more terse. | |
20:29 | :) | |
20:29 | mtompset | Now there's an ancient standard. |
20:29 | rangi | sorry ODC |
20:29 | jcamins | rangi: yeah, I know. |
20:30 | rangi | oh look lets take CC-BY-SA |
20:30 | and call it ODC-BY | |
20:30 | wizzyrea | O.o |
20:30 | jcamins | heather_hernandez++ |
20:30 | rangi | and to be even more ironic hipster about it |
20:30 | An Open Knowledge Foundation project. Site content licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution license. | |
20:31 | eggs | |
20:35 | koyauni | guys do you understand what this Plesk guy trying to tell me here, http://forum.parallels.com/sho[…]637024#post637024 please see the last reply |
20:37 | jcamins | koyauni: he's saying instead of using port 80, make Apache listen on port 8080, and use port 8080 for the two Koha virtual hosts. |
20:38 | koyauni | that means in koha-site.conf I should use 8080 in my setting |
20:39 | rangi | @wunder nzwn |
20:39 | huginn | rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 8.0°C (8:00 AM NZST on August 24, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Windchill: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027 hPa (Steady). |
20:39 | jcamins | No. |
20:39 | In your virtual host file. | |
20:39 | /etc/apache2/sites-available/library | |
20:39 | And you add a "Listen 8080" line to /etc/apache2/ports.conf | |
20:40 | Then to access your catalog you'll go to http://library.koyauniversity.org:8080/ and http://libraryadmin.koyauniversity.org:8080/ | |
20:43 | koyauni | let me do that, cross you finger :) |
20:44 | * eythian | still fails to understand how/why plesk would prevent you using port 80. It is the standard port after all. |
20:44 | mtompset | Actually, I was wondering if koyauni actually did log into Plesk and set things up? https://library.koyauniversity.org:8443/ |
20:44 | rangi | yep, weve been through that |
20:44 | jcamins | eythian: I don't know, but that seems to be the issue. |
20:45 | rangi | what plesk is blocking is sites-enabled being used is what i think is happening |
20:45 | jcamins | rangi: in that case, changing the port won't do anything. |
20:45 | koyauni | I have just created the subdomain in Plesk, |
20:45 | rangi | the plesk site (being served by apache2) is answering for everything on port 80 |
20:46 | and it expects you to do some silly put everything under some dir in plesk thing | |
20:46 | koyauni | in the ports it says # If you just change the port or add more ports here, you will likely also # have to change the VirtualHost statement in # /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default |
20:47 | yes, 80 is the default in Apache 2 and Plesk | |
20:48 | jcamins | koyauni: add two lines to that file, actually: |
20:48 | Listen 8080 | |
20:48 | and | |
20:48 | wajasu | sometimes you have a site called "default" that you should disable. so port 80 is freed up. |
20:48 | jcamins | NameVirtualHost *:8080 |
20:48 | wajasu: not here. The problem is that Apache is never hit. | |
20:49 | wajasu | ah |
20:49 | * jcamins | has a new answer for the question "can I use Plesk to manage Koha?": "no." |
20:49 | koyauni | you means in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default |
20:50 | jcamins | koyauni: no. |
20:50 | koyauni | I should add NameVirtualHost *:8080, Listen 8080 as well |
20:50 | jcamins | in /etc/apache2/ports.conf |
20:50 | koyauni | I have but it says you have to do it in the 000-default one as well |
20:50 | jcamins | No, you don't. |
20:50 | Change ports.conf the way I just told you. | |
20:50 | koyauni | ok, now do I restrat apache2 |
20:50 | wahanui | jcamins: that doesn't look right |
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20:51 | mtompset | That's not what it means, koyauni. |
20:51 | jcamins | And change /etc/apache2/sites-available/library to say 8080 instead of 80 on the VirtualHost lines. |
20:51 | wahanui | jcamins: that doesn't look right |
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20:51 | jcamins | If you already did that, it's time to restart Apache. |
20:55 | koyauni | ok, it says , apache2ctl restart [Thu Aug 23 23:54:45 2012] [warn] VirtualHost 88.198.51.202:8080 overlaps with V irtualHost 88.198.51.202:8080, the first has precedence, perhaps you need a Name VirtualHost directive [Thu Aug 23 23:54:45 2012] [warn] NameVirtualHost *:8080 has no VirtualHosts |
20:55 | eythian | When I post to the list, I'm getting bounces from a comcast address saying it can't connect to the mail server. That doesn't bode well for comcast users. |
20:56 | jcamins | koyauni: try changing those lines to "*:8080" |
20:56 | koyauni | something poistive happens:) |
20:56 | http://library.koyauniversity.[…]ha/maintenance.pl | |
20:56 | rangi | yep im giving it a couple more days to sort itself out, then ill have to nomail the person, not doing that yet tho, because they will never know they have been no mailed and just stop getting mail, and thats arse |
20:56 | jcamins | (that is, change 88.198.51.202:8080 to *:8080) |
20:57 | rangi | so its a last resort thing |
20:57 | koyauni | look the default site of plesk has gone |
20:57 | we are in right track! hurray | |
20:58 | jcamins | koyauni: yes, so you can now set up Koha. You'll have to get help from the Plesk folks if you want to change the port to 80. |
21:00 | koyauni | now all the sites has stopped working http://koyauniversity.org/ |
21:00 | non of the web sites are accessible | |
21:00 | jcamins | Well, you can undo the changes you just made, then. |
21:00 | wajasu | you brought down the internet. |
21:00 | jcamins | Looks like you can choose between using Plesk and running Koha. |
21:00 | koyauni | can we define two set of ports |
21:01 | jcamins | koyauni: did you delete the line that said "Listen 80"? |
21:01 | You were supposed to add "Listen 8080" and "NameVirtualHost *:8080." | |
21:01 | koyauni | yes I did |
21:02 | * mtompset | nods, "No deleting. --- Oooooo." |
21:02 | koyauni | so both line should be there |
21:02 | mtompset | Yes. |
21:02 | koyauni | ok |
21:02 | this guys says, well you must first get the web installer to work as far as i know it should be libraryadmin.yourserverip.XXX to do that u need to put the koha shortcut into available-sites then enable it so it gose to enabled-sites folder within apache2 dir in etc | |
21:02 | mtompset | ignore that. |
21:03 | koyauni | but the package has already done that |
21:03 | jcamins | Right, that's what we tried previously, and Plesk was getting in the way. |
21:04 | koyauni | this is now at NameVirtualHost *:80 Listen 80 NameVirtualHost *:8080 Listen 8080 |
21:04 | jcamins | So I suggest you use Koha on port 8080 until you are more familiar with Linux, Plesk, and Koha. |
21:04 | koyauni | in port.conf |
21:04 | jcamins | Yes. |
21:04 | That's what it should have. | |
21:05 | mtompset | ha ha! You've got it. |
21:05 | koyauni | my sites are back |
21:05 | mtompset | AND! You've got the webinstaller log in! |
21:06 | koyauni | and this is working now |
21:06 | http://libraryadmin.koyauniver[…]taller/install.pl | |
21:07 | jcamins | Yup. So now you go through the webinstaller. |
21:07 | * mtompset | nods, "Yay!" |
21:07 | eythian | wahanui: plesk |
21:07 | wahanui | plesk is, like, part of the server |
21:07 | koyauni | so to get the user site, http://library.koyauniversity.org |
21:07 | eythian | no wahanui, plesk is terrible and likely to interfere with setting up Koha |
21:07 | wahanui | okay, eythian. |
21:07 | mtompset | plesk? |
21:07 | wahanui | plesk is, like, terrible and likely to interfere with setting up Koha |
21:08 | mtompset | Amen to that! |
21:08 | I think I'll have another round of caffeine to celebrate. | |
21:08 | koyauni | I think this is a good experince and I will write the step by step for Plesk users |
21:08 | * wizzyrea | just googled plesk - 3rd hit is "Plesk 0day for sale as thousands of sites hacked |
21:09 | backs slowly away from plesk | |
21:09 | turns and runs | |
21:09 | eythian | hahaha |
21:09 | koyauni | so defining the port is an important step when working Plesk, |
21:09 | jcamins | Wow. |
21:09 | koyauni | should the value in koha-site.conf cahnge as well, |
21:10 | eythian | koyauni: that only applies when you run koha-create |
21:10 | so, you can change it now (probably not a bad idea) but it won't actually change anything at the moment. | |
21:10 | koyauni | because that is defined on port 80 |
21:10 | jcamins | koyauni: it doesn't matter for you now. If we'd known that you couldn't use 80 without some special configuration in Plesk before we started, you could've set the INTRAPORT and OPACPORT both to 8080, and saved some of the manual editing. |
21:11 | However, it would probably be a good idea to change it even though it won't have much impact. | |
21:11 | koyauni | ok, i see, that just give instruction during installation |
21:12 | eythian | yeah |
21:12 | koyauni | ok, I do that now |
21:14 | many thanks for your help, | |
21:14 | have you guys seen this http://drupalconnect.com/trekk | |
21:14 | wajasu | are you sure a2dissite default would have not freed up port 80. or maybe listing what was enabled in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled to if the default plesk site was there. |
21:14 | jcamins | wajasu: yes, quite sure. |
21:15 | wajasu | i defer |
21:15 | jcamins | wajasu: we already tried a2dissite default. ;) |
21:15 | koyauni | wajasu are you asking me? |
21:15 | wajasu | yes. but jacamins confimed my suspicion. |
21:16 | jcamins | koyauni: I don't use Drupal at all, so I can't tell you anything about it. Other than that I don't really like it. |
21:17 | wajasu | i'm attempting to signoff bug 8112. i need to fiure out how to get multiple fines against the same overdue item. Hmm. |
21:17 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8112 minor, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Needs Signoff , Overdues with Fines giving duplicates |
21:18 | jcamins | wajasu: upgrade from 3.6.x to 3.8.x. |
21:19 | wajasu | i'm running master. you mean i need to do an upgrade to get dups? |
21:19 | jcamins | Right. |
21:21 | wajasu | the bug didn't mention doing an upgrade. so i have to install 3.6.x, add patron, items, checkout, have overdues, then upgrade? that alot of work. |
21:22 | jcamins | wajasu: that's my understanding. |
21:22 | wajasu | can't i just add another row into accountlines. see it on the overdues_report, apply the patches. run the report and see its ok? |
21:23 | wizzyrea | that wouldn't be a real life test |
21:24 | mtompset | but if you love testing, you should do that too. ;) |
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21:25 | * mtompset | is getting excited, "The data transfer of over 70,000 files is almost complete after weeks of painful networking problems and downtimes." |
21:25 | mtompset | And it's Drupal related, jcamins. ;) |
21:26 | wajasu | but the patch really is just fixing the report IF you have dups. And it doesn't remove dups from an upgrade. |
21:27 | mtompset | Yes, but in real life... people will have this problem. |
21:27 | And we'll say, "It's fixed in a newer version." | |
21:27 | And so they'll upgrade. | |
21:27 | wajasu | the problem being the report, or the dups? |
21:27 | jcamins | Looks like this patch is just about the report. With the dups dealt with elsewhere. |
21:28 | wajasu | yeah. |
21:28 | koyauni | in koha-conf.xml there is only one set of kohausr and pass , and that does not work with this admin login |
21:29 | mtompset | Are you at the bottom? |
21:29 | koyauni | yes |
21:29 | eythian | and what does "does not work" mean? |
21:29 | mtompset | sudo xmlstarlet sel -t -v 'yazgfs/config/pass' /etc/koha/sites/instancename/koha-conf.xml |
21:30 | koyauni | the access code to this http://libraryadmin.koyauniver[…]taller/install.pl |
21:30 | mtompset | Did you type this to make sure you are getting the correct password? |
21:30 | koyauni | I can type, let me look |
21:30 | mtompset | You'll have to change instancename to library. |
21:30 | eythian | there are different ways for something not to work, knowing how something breaks is often the best way of knowing what's wrong. |
21:30 | koyauni | yes |
21:34 | now I am in :) | |
21:38 | mtompset | YAY! |
21:39 | wajasu | Awesome!!! |
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21:44 | koyauni | all went well, |
21:44 | I am up and run now | |
21:45 | I wonder if I do not define any port for http://library.koyauniversity.org:8080 | |
21:45 | will it work as http://library.koyauniversity.org | |
21:45 | jcamins | It will take you to the Plesk page. |
21:45 | koyauni | so we have to always have the 8080 then |
21:46 | jcamins | Until you find out how to configure it so that Plesk doesn't get in the way of you using port 80. |
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21:47 | eythian | cait: 23 slides, and I think I'm about half way through :) |
21:47 | koyauni | at least we can work now, Many thanks guys, you were very helpful |
21:47 | cait | eythian: impressive! |
21:47 | be very mean to me tomorrow.. you promised! | |
21:47 | well... you didn't say no :) | |
21:48 | * cait | has to make her slides tomorrow |
21:48 | eythian | heh |
21:49 | jcamins | It sounds like there's something you have to set up in Plesk, which none of us know about. |
21:49 | eythian: goodness! How long a talk? | |
21:49 | cait | eythian: we got rain! |
21:50 | eythian | jcamins: about 30 minutes |
21:50 | although, by slides I mean "points that it pauses on" | |
21:50 | it's more like 8 pages | |
21:52 | cait: yeah, I was watching the lightning before | |
21:52 | cait | got no lightning up here, but nice rain now |
21:56 | wajasu | its nice testing with the rains pitter patter... but then... BOOM... lightning bugs |
21:59 | cait | night all :) |
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22:22 | mtompset | Oh, I'm trying to do a git install of koha 3.8.4 -- there's a file missing from the PerlDependencies. |
22:24 | rangi | and it is? |
22:30 | mtompset | Cache::Memcached::Fast |
22:31 | related to Koha::Cache::... something. | |
22:31 | jcamins | mtompset: there's a patch for it. |
22:31 | mtompset | My scroll back is too small to check. |
22:31 | jcamins | Yeah, Cache::Memcached::Fast. |
22:31 | mtompset | Not that it matters... I got the appropriate library and kept going. |
22:32 | Good to know there is a patch. | |
22:46 | Ah, bug 8636 | |
22:46 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8636 major, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Passed QA , Some dependencies are not listed by the installer |
22:46 | jcamins | Yup. |
22:47 | mtompset | How do I trigger the test which requires the Test::YAML::Valid? |
22:48 | rangi | there's a bunch sitting waiting for paul to get back, to go into master, so i can cherry-pick them for 3.8.x |
22:48 | jcamins | prove xt |
22:48 | rangi | some of the critical ones i applied manually |
22:48 | for 3.8.4 | |
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22:49 | rangi | dont forget prove xt/author/ |
22:49 | too | |
22:49 | (not for this case, but in general) | |
22:49 | anytime a template changes, you should run them | |
22:55 | mtompset | or prove -r xt |
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23:05 | rangi | you know what |
23:05 | jcamins | What? |
23:06 | rangi | we should get a wildcard cacert for *.koha-community.org |
23:06 | and put the wiki on https | |
23:06 | jcamins | Ummm... |
23:06 | why? | |
23:06 | rangi | cos we type passwords in the clear |
23:06 | jcamins | Ah. That's true. |
23:06 | rangi | someone gets hold of mine |
23:06 | they could mess up the wiki good | |
23:07 | also it might stop the automated spammers | |
23:07 | might not, but i run https everywhere and it always grizzles at me hehe | |
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23:07 | * jcamins | votes against removing http access to bugzilla. |
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23:13 | rangi | oh not removing |
23:14 | you can have both | |
23:14 | like twitter, facebook, google, et al | |
23:14 | do | |
23:14 | so ppl who care about security and run with https everywhere on, see the https site, others who dont care can see the http one | |
23:15 | wajasu | do we have a wiki page for setting up postfix as null client(send mail out only, with replies configured to return to another mailhost). i did it yesterday from scratch on debian sqeeze, and while its fresh, I could write it up. a couple of folks mentioned. |
23:15 | jcamins | postfix? |
23:15 | wahanui | postfix is found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix |
23:16 | rangi | wajasu: we make a concious effort to try to only talk about koha |
23:16 | wajasu | ok |
23:16 | rangi | there's enough to document there |
23:16 | wajasu | mail is a can of worms anyway. |
23:16 | rangi | otherwise we spread ourselves too thin |
23:16 | yep | |
23:17 | wajasu | i am starting to feel it. patching some things is like ... |
23:17 | mtj | aaah, the old 'less is more' concept... |
23:18 | wajasu | i'm glad i got bug 8378 done today. i'm sure kf will fine another corner case. |
23:18 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8378 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , <fine> syntax not working on overdues anymore |
23:19 | mtompset | I run https to log into facebook. |
23:19 | I think the cacert idea is a good one. | |
23:21 | rangi | wajasu: she's a good tester we need 20 more of her |
23:21 | wajasu | she's gold. |
23:22 | ibeardslee | ++ .. BUT also need a decent message/tutorial of ensuring that people understand the message about invalid cert from using a cacert |
23:22 | wajasu | bug 8168. i can fix that. |
23:22 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8168 minor, P5 - low, ---, henridamien, NEW , ersatz CSV header in attachment of overdue notices sent to administrator |
23:22 | jcamins | ersatz++ |
23:23 | wajasu | i pasted a question earlier today about that very thing i saw in the code when testing my patch. i can patch that quick. |
23:25 | rangi | excellent wajasu |
23:25 | ibeardslee: yep good idea | |
23:31 | jcamins | Things that help when testing search-related functionality: |
23:31 | 1) starting Zebra | |
23:31 | 2) see (1) | |
23:31 | wajasu | i have an idea on how to test bug 7967. i can capture the converstation with wireshark during ldap search. then apply the patch. then record another ldap search, and compare the differences. |
23:31 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7967 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , Z39.50 client should negotiate encoding with server |
23:31 | ibeardslee | rangi: I need to do something similar for the academy moodle. |
23:31 | wajasu | ha |
23:31 | jcamins | wajasu: the problem is that we don't know of any servers that allow negotiation. |
23:32 | rangi | ibeardslee: ill steal your words then :) |
23:32 | jcamins | (that you don't have to pay by the search for) |
23:32 | ibeardslee | .. damn .. not the way I was thinking of it ;) |
23:33 | wajasu | jcamins: i see. |
23:38 | rangi: i could add a fines.total (or <<items.finestotal>>) for notices. Bug 7707 | |
23:38 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7707 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, henridamien, NEW , Add fines placeholders in notices to display fine information on notices |
23:39 | rangi | in master or 3.8 ? |
23:39 | oh you mean you could write the patch to do that? | |
23:39 | if so, cool | |
23:40 | wajasu | since i know how it work right now. it can. |
23:50 | rangi | http://www.stuff.co.nz/nationa[…]dowers-stolen-car |
23:50 | feel good friday | |
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