IRC log for #koha, 2012-08-10

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00:00 jcamins_away dcook: you get an -- unfortunately scary-looking -- warning masquerading as an error, but it doesn't mess anything up.
00:01 dcook Whew. So it it doesn't run that SQL statement and it goes on to the next one?
00:06 jcamins_away Well, it runs it, the statement fails, and it keeps going.
00:07 dcook Mmm, right. Sweet.
00:07 Thanks, jcamins_away :)
00:20 drojf is the main mailing list completely disabled now? the last mail i see is from myself and 6.5h old. rangi wrote about spammers abusing the web interface earlier
00:23 irc seems disabled too ;) i better go back to bed
00:24 dcook :P
00:24 no idea, drojf
00:24 Last thing I got was the Devel Digest, and that was 14 hours ago, me thinks
00:29 melia left #koha
00:30 drojf i could send an email to the list to check, but i don't want to annoy people. it might just be quiet. we'll see
00:31 dcook I was figuring that it might just be quiet. Today is my last day of full-time until January, so it's a perfect day for quiet ;)
00:32 drojf heh :)
03:07 mtj hi #koha
03:08 i'm about to start on some qa-signoff work for gbsd...
03:58 trying out joubu's qa-tools tweaks, too
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04:33 cait joined #koha
04:34 mtj i've finally ditched colloquy-irc for textual, on osx - heaps faster after net-disconnects...
04:36 cait hi mtj :)
04:38 mtj ...using colloquy with  an irc-proxy used to cpu-spike for 10 secs (or more), on connects
04:39 textual seems to be instant, even with  a big 500-line scrollback
04:39 so... happy about fixing that annoying daily thing :)
04:39 heya cait :)
04:40 still planning to ditch osx completely, soon....
04:41 .. but i ended up giving my 'spare' laptop to a friend
04:42 (the spare lappy was gonna be my 'switch-to-linux' lappy)
04:43 i can't see me getting my spare lappy back soon, either! :)
04:47 cait :)
04:48 mtj++ for qa work
04:52 mtj thanks :) and now back to some qa stuff, for me...
05:25 oooh , xslt validator -> http://code.google.com/p/debugxslt/
05:25 ... Koha needs one of those?, afaik
05:25 * cait files some bugs
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05:53 dcook Always more bugs to file :)
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05:57 mtompset WHAT?! I go to sleep, and the number at http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]bin/bug_status.pl goes up?!
05:58 Greetings, #koha.
05:58 cait mtompset: better get used to it...
05:59 mtompset But I thought today was supposed to be GBSD.
05:59 Sadly, I'm a little distracted with a backup project that needs work.
06:00 Otherwise I'd be working on eliminating my bugs.
06:00 dcook Yeah, there's not enough time today to eliminate bugs. But a lot sure seem to be cropping up
06:00 * dcook glares at the Z3950 search
06:00 cait heh
06:00 yeah :)
06:01 i filed 3 new bugs this morning... so guess I am not making the numbers look better
06:03 bag @seen sekjal
06:03 huginn bag: sekjal was last seen in #koha 1 week, 2 days, 10 hours, and 41 seconds ago: <sekjal> rangi:  figured Wellington was a small enough open source IT community that you may have had some overlap
06:03 bag mtj?
06:03 wahanui DeM KraZy NutZ!!
06:03 bag YAY!
06:03 dcook I don't know if I actually filed any today..
06:03 Just 1
06:03 About to do another...and would've done one more, but now I can't reproduce the problem...which is more worrisome than nice
06:04 mtj ah, just remembered Koha's xml/xslt tests .....
06:04 perl  ./t/00-valid-xml.t
06:05 i'll have to add that to the qa-tools stuff
06:08 the passed-qa number is up from 7 to 20 , thats progress...
06:09 dcook mtj++
06:09 mtj bug stats on master  -> http://munin.kohaaloha.com/koh[…]koha_bz_head.html
06:11 mtompset That's how much the number went up. So, I'll blame you, cait. ;)
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06:14 julian_m hello
06:14 wahanui privet, julian_m
06:15 dcook allo, julian_m
06:15 mtompset bonjour, julian_m
06:15 dcook Do you folks know if z39.50 queries can be phrased using CCL? Koha seems to think that it can...
06:15 mtompset Greetings, dcook
06:15 dcook hey, mtompset
06:15 wahanui i heard mtompset was currently in the Philippines and is coding up a bash script storm in the midst of seasonal typhoons.
06:16 julian_m hello dcook, mtompset
06:16 mtj mtompset: an increase of bug tickets is usually a good thing :) no need for blaming anyone...
06:17 mtompset I put a smiley face. Not really blaming cait. :)
06:17 mtj ah yep... :)
06:18 mtompset Not to mention, blame games are a waste of time that could be better spent on fixing problems.
06:18 mtj dcook, not sure, jcamins_away is the person to talk too
06:19 mtompset: yep, thats the one
06:20 dcook Hmm, k. Thanks, mtj :)
06:22 mtj SimpleSearch says... '* $query can be a simple keyword or a complete CCL query  '
06:23 so, if the z39 code calls simpleseach(), then probably?
06:24 dcook Yeah, I was just taking a look at that :/
06:24 Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to work
06:25 I'm also noticing different results returned for the same z3950 query in 3.2 and 3.8...with 3.2 being the vastly superior results
06:27 mtompset sounds like you have a code-reading hunt ahead of you. :(
06:27 mtj wow, thats surprising - i would have thought the search requests would have been almost identical
06:27 mtompset -almost and that's what I would have expected. :)
06:28 Oh... I wonder if it has to do with the searches starting with and problem.
06:28 mtj dcook, paste the result queries?
06:29 dcook result queries?
06:29 mtj mtompset: i assume we are talking about an external z39 search, here
06:29 sorry, 'search queries' - not 'result queries'
06:30 dcook I typed in "heart" into the title box in Koha's z3950
06:30 For the z3950.loc.gov server
06:30 Which is their old one, I believe, but still used the same server for the same query
06:30 mtompset Yes, but wouldn't the logic for z39.50 search be affected by Koha's logic?
06:31 dcook http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Search_Info
06:31 mtj mtompset, im assuming 'no' here
06:32 dcook, sounds like its worth pasting into a bug report
06:34 magnuse happy gbsd, #koha!
06:34 Needs Signoff - 87
06:34 dcook Sounds good, mtj
06:35 cait working on 4222
06:35 mtj z3950_search.pl: query  @attr 1=4 "heart"  at /home/mason/git/head/cataloguing/z3950_search.pl line 172
06:35 ... on master
06:36 dcook, so... whats the query on your koha-3.2 ?
06:37 mtompset I know that annual was the intent after monthly was too time consuming.
06:37 But wouldn't a BSD a couple weeks before each release be a good idea?
06:38 dcook I'll take a look mtj
06:39 Did you have to add in a warning for that one, or was it already set up to log it?
06:39 magnuse bug 4222
06:39 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4222 major, P2, ---, srdjan, Needs Signoff , Nonpublic note not appearing in the staff client
06:39 magnuse yay
06:40 mtompset: annual gbsds? not that i have heard of...
06:42 dcook mtj:  'query' => ' @attr 1=4 "heart" ', referer: .../cgi-bin/koha/cataloguing/z​3950_search.pl?biblionumber=0
06:42 mtj right, so... same query for both koha version
06:43 dcook Looks like
06:43 mtj so, 3.2 and 3.8 are *sorting* differently, then?
06:43 ... after getting identical result-sets
06:43 dcook Mmm, interesting
06:44 3.8 seems to start with numeric
06:44 3.2 starts at A
06:45 mtj 3.8 seems better, then...
06:45 dcook Technically
06:46 It appears to be coincidence that the alphabetic results are just more relevant, although I suppose that's subjective as well
06:47 mtj yep, no relevance here - just different sorting of identical results
06:47 dcook And unfortunately only the top 20 are shown
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06:47 dcook And even though the title field is used, that's not what's being searched
06:48 mtj aaah, now *that* sounds like a bug :)
06:48 dcook Hehe. Always good to see you smile, mtj ;)
06:48 mtj curious now, whats being searched?
06:49 ... if not the title?
06:49 dcook Everything it seems
06:49 Or at least the notes fields
06:49 That's why a lot of the hits showing up in 3.8 are for music
06:49 They all have tracks with the word "heart" in them
06:49 Which I suppose technically are titles...but they're not titles of the work, and I don't think a 505 can refer to titles
06:50 mtj yow! ... is it a bad query by koha - or bad results by loc.govt ?
06:50 dcook Of course, this is when I check...
06:51 Hmm 505 does have a title subfield, but the records don't have that, so that's certainly not at play
06:51 I wonder if it's loc.govt
06:51 mtj this is possibly intended/correct behaviour for z39 searching , too ?
06:52 dcook Maybe?
06:52 mtj my hunch is ... its working as intended
06:53 dcook Emphasis on intended ;)
06:54 mtj i guess its a general 'title' search
06:55 dcook Now if only I could figure out PQF
06:55 mtj ... which is frustrating, if theres no *specific* title search as another opiton
06:56 ok, back to a little more qa stuff...
06:58 cait 4222 confuses me... back to it after work
06:58 bbl
06:58 cait left #koha
06:58 dcook later cait
06:59 Agreed, mtj. Anyway, thank you for your help and good luck with the qa
06:59 I'm going to dig a little more and then call it a day. Today is my last full-time day until January, so I won't be harassing you for quite a while.
06:59 Or at least, i'll be harassing part-time from a North American timezone ;)
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07:00 Joubu hi #koha
07:01 magnuse hiya Joubu
07:02 dcook Hmm, maybe it is bad querying on Koha's part...
07:02 Here is the specification for the bib-1 attribute set for PQF:
07:02 http://www.loc.gov/z3950/agency/defns/bib1.html
07:02 @attr 1=4 "heart" would mean..."use" "title" heart
07:02 huginn dcook: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready
07:03 dcook We might want to include something like @attr 2=3, which would be..."relation" "equals" heart
07:03 I'm sure jcamins_away would know more about that
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07:07 mveron Good daytime, #koha
07:09 dcook G'day, mveron
07:09 And fairwell #koha until at least the end of the month!
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07:18 gaetan_B hello
07:18 wahanui hey, gaetan_B
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07:21 kf good morning #koha
07:22 jenkins_koha Starting build #131 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
07:29 mtompset Greetings, kf.
07:29 kf hi mtompset
07:31 rangi magnuse: are you running your script to track changes?
07:31 kf hi rangi and magnuse
07:32 rangi hi kf
07:37 mtj can anyone get this patch to apply - bug 8581
07:37 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8581 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Signed Off , Authority display doesn't like GND records
07:38 kf mtj: what is your error message?
07:38 mtj its a 2-liner, but i get a weird git error (perhaps my repo is glitchy?)
07:39 pastebot "mtj" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "8581" (20 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/89
07:40 kf oh
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07:40 kf and you are testing on latest master?
07:41 rangi thats weird
07:42 lemme reattach it
07:43 ah yes
07:43 it depends on another one magnuse
07:43 sorry mtj
07:43 http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8581
07:43 huginn 04Bug 8581: normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Signed Off , Authority display doesn't like GND records
07:43 rangi depends on bug 3462
07:43 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3462 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Signed Off , Link see alsos in authorities
07:43 rangi you have to apply 3462 first
07:43 kf hm
07:43 weird
07:44 rangi nope, not weird :)
07:44 kf ah, he probably fixedit on a different branch, because the problem already exists in current master
07:44 rangi the fix only works if you have 3462
07:44 mtj ah yep, 3462 is linked, in teh bug...
07:44 Depends on: 3462 (edit)
07:44 rangi yep
07:44 kf rangi: was only wondering why I did run into it already :)
07:44 mtj all good :)
07:45 rangi cool
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07:46 drojf good gbsd #koha
07:47 kf happy gbsd :)
07:48 drojf hi kf :)
07:48 kf rangi: could you maybe add it to the motd?
07:48 next gbsd?
07:48 wahanui i think next gbsd is http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]bug_squashing_day
07:48 mveron hi everybody  :-)
07:48 kf hi mveron :)
07:48 Topic for #koha is now Sign off bugs, its GBSB
07:48 drojf and happy kill-your-koha-day for me too ;)
07:48 mtj hmmm, how many hours in an 'international' day?
07:48 drojf hi mveron :)
07:49 rangi: typo
07:49 Topic for #koha is now Sign off bugs, its GBSD
07:50 mtj ... i wonder if woldfram knows the answer?
07:50 drojf :)
07:50 mtj: if not they should teach it
07:50 kf I think magnuse might now? he seems to have figured out when it starts and ends :)
07:51 mveron In Opac, Search, Refine search the german version shows English expressions like Authros, Libraries etc. instead of Autoren, Bibliotheken
07:51 New and not yet translated feature?
07:53 mtompset Probably 47?
07:53 48 if you round up 1 second?
08:02 mtj really? im surprised the answer would be so  logical/obvious! :)
08:03 kf mveron: hm old feature, which version are you looking at?
08:03 there was a change to this template to add itemtypes as facet -maybe the other strings have gone ufzzy
08:14 drojf kf: when installing the german translation in a fresh package install, there is (still?) an error about different %s-count or something. i think it's also there if you update the language files with the update script, should it not be correct after the update? or do i have to download new po files manually?
08:14 kf hm
08:14 mveron kf: Newest master. I think we will see it with the next rranslation.
08:14 kf which version is package install?
08:15 drojf 3.8.3
08:15 kf mveron: yes, thta would be my guess. - if you want to check you can run the script for updating translations and see if it turns out fuzzy
08:15 drojf: hm I thought we caught all of them :(
08:15 drojf: maybe try those from pootle - hopefully they won't give you the error
08:16 is it possible the packages don't include the po files?
08:16 drojf ok. don't want to expermiment with the real installation. i have seen it in a virtual machine a few days ago, forgot to ask
08:16 it was only about one error/warning and clearly had german inside, so there must have been po files
08:17 kf mtj++
08:23 mtompset dashboard?
08:23 wahanui i heard dashboard was at http://dashboard.koha-community.org/
08:25 mtompset Wait a second... I thought ppoulain was on vacation... Signing off things isn't vacation.
08:26 kf it's automated
08:26 from the sandbox, only using his email
08:26 mtompset AH.
08:27 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #131: SUCCESS in 1 hr 5 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.8.x/131/
08:27 kyle: Bug 8419 - Suspended holds appear on the daily holds queue
08:27 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8419 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Passed QA , Suspended holds appear on the daily holds queue
08:27 jenkins_koha Starting build #132 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
08:40 mtompset For a minute there, I thought he was super-ultra-mega-dedicated. ;) We already know he is super-dedicated. :)
08:41 eythian joined #koha
08:41 kf morning eythian :)
08:41 eythian hello
08:41 wahanui que tal, eythian
08:42 mtompset Out of curiousity, why the nick eythian? Why not something closer to your real name?
08:42 eythian mtompset: historical reasons from the days of BBSes
08:42 mtompset And yes, greetings to you, eythian. :)
08:43 Ah... much like why I truncate my name.
08:43 Back from the days where user ids could only be 8 characters. :)
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09:00 drojf oh look, tumbleweed
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09:23 mtj 33 patches passed-qa, i'm off for a beer.... :)
09:23 rangi mtj++
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09:29 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #132: SUCCESS in 1 hr 2 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.8.x/132/
09:29 * mtompset: Bug 8172 - Missing dereference marker for buildQuery parameter in addbooks.pl Added a dereference to an array parameter of buildQuery.
09:29 * jonathan.druart: Bug 8172: Followup: Removes useless empty params
09:29 * julian.maurice: Bug 8575: Expected items count should not include cancelled orders
09:29 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8172 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Passed QA , Missing dereference marker for buildQuery parameter in addbooks.pl
09:29 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8575 normal, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Passed QA , Number of items expected is wrong
09:30 magnuse rangi: no, not running my usual gbsd script - thought the dashboard would provide enough fun...
09:30 mtompset YAY! 83... The number is down.
09:31 rangi magnuse: fair enough :)
09:32 magnuse :-)
09:32 eythian: got an opinion on bug 7589?
09:32 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7589 major, P5 - low, ---, robin, Needs Signoff , tinymce editor broken in .deb packages - in 'en' templates
09:32 eythian magnuse: I don't really
09:33 magnuse worksforme in 3.8.3
09:34 i don't have access to a packaged 3.6.x any longer, maybe jcamins_away does
09:34 eythian magnuse: There is the oldstable repo
09:36 magnuse sure, but i was hoping i could get out of doing an actual install :-)
09:37 mtompset Sadly, my tiny netbook is being beaten for other work, otherwise I'd try to help.
09:37 I have a 3.6.X install.
09:37 drojf is the dashboard down or my internet stupid?
09:38 nevermind its there now
09:38 mtompset Can I jokingly say both? ;)
09:38 Oops... slow on the draw. :)
09:40 What does "3_8_packages - Broken" mean? Is it related to koha-common?
09:48 eythian mtompset: what's the context?
09:49 mtompset dashboard?
09:49 wahanui somebody said dashboard was at http://dashboard.koha-community.org/
09:49 mtompset That's the context.
09:50 eythian Hmm, not sure what that's referring to, but it shouldn't affect the packages. They're built off of a branch I manage (which is just whatever the 3.8 release tag is plus changelog updates most of the time.)
09:51 magnuse i think rangi has jenkins building packages or something like that?
09:51 eythian might be
09:52 rangi says stable for me
09:53 eythian me too actually, I didn't read closely.
09:53 rangi http://jenkins.koha-community.org/
09:53 eythian too early in the morning
09:53 rangi the packages are built after each of the builds successfully completes
09:53 tests that changes havent broken the packaging
09:53 magnuse dashboard says "stable" now...
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09:55 magnuse hm bug 5332 v.s. bug 2060
09:56 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5332 enhancement, P3, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , Add batch reversion capability to bin/commit_biblios_file.pl
09:56 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2060 enhancement, P3, ---, jcamins, Signed Off , Ability to import Authorities from Staff Client
09:57 magnuse the second one is much broader than the first, and covers the main point of the first, but the first one has one detail not present in the second (--progress-interval option)
09:58 anyone opposed to marking the first one as a duplicate of the second one?
09:58 eythian It seems reasonable, perhaps with a note explaining the differences.
09:58 Maybe someone wants to implement that on the new one.
09:59 magnuse yup
09:59 mtompset So "Jenkins Status" has no bearing on koha-common, and just reflects the latest build attempt?
10:00 And yes, it says stable now for me too.
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10:04 eythian http://chronicle.com/article/T[…]ca3spbl1SEw%3D%3D
10:10 kf mveron: is there a problem with 6813?
10:10 magnuse bug6813
10:10 gah bug 6813
10:10 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6813 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, amit.gupta, Needs Signoff , Acquistions - duplicate search across orders, suggestions and catalog
10:11 mveron kf: Jonathans QA comment. I'm not sure if it makes sense to sign it off before that is fixed.
10:11 kf: Comment #3
10:12 kf ah only saw your comment on the list
10:12 reading the bug now :)
10:12 ah
10:12 maybe provide a follow upß
10:12 ?
10:12 you could sign off and try to resolve the problems
10:13 mveron But if I make chnges to the code an other person should sign-off then?
10:14 kf hm, probably
10:14 but not sure how long it would take for Amit to get back to this
10:14 and it sounds like a needed and nice feature
10:15 mveron kf Ok, will lok at it in the afternoon.
10:15 Joubu mveron: If you want, I can try to provide a followup for Bug 6813 today
10:15 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6813 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, amit.gupta, Needs Signoff , Acquistions - duplicate search across orders, suggestions and catalog
10:15 kf you don't have to - but maybe an option
10:15 drojf i have something like this too. zeno made the linker plugin for marc21. like, months ago. it had italian in it so i did not sign off. then he provided a new patch that still has italian in it so i made a followup. but can i sign it off now myself? its bug 8185
10:16 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8185 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tajoli, Needs Signoff , Plugin for linking records in MARC21
10:16 drojf it works nicely, its just the italian :(
10:16 magnuse drojf: i'd say you can sign off on zenos patch, but someone else must sign off on yours
10:17 kf I would like to test... but not sure when I will get around to it :( so bettr not making any promises
10:17 magnuse the last signoff should be easy, if it's just checking there is no italian left
10:17 mveron Joubu: Great!
10:18 drojf magnuse: so i would apply the patch to git, not apply my followup and then amend -s for the first one?
10:18 kf yes, sign off your first, but be careful to reattach patches in the right order if possible
10:18 you could apply 1 - sign off - apply yours - reattach both
10:19 probably easierst
10:19 easiest
10:19 * mveron has to head away, back in the afternoon
10:20 drojf ok i will try that later, thanks
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10:49 * magnuse needs a reboot
10:51 * kf needs one too
10:51 * drojf needs somebody to cook
10:51 kf lol
10:51 drojf cook food for me, not me cooking him/her
10:52 freshly installed koha, yeah break. i'll try the signoff-one-of-two-patches-thing
10:56 hrm. i get trailing whitespace warnings from zenos patch. "warning: squelched 9 whitespace errors" / "warning: 14 lines add whitespace errors.". is that a reason not to sign off? it does not affect the functionality
10:57 kf nope
10:57 you can still sign off - there is also a nice post from rangi how to repair that
10:57 drojf oh, where? ml?
10:57 kf give me a moment to find it :)
10:58 magnuse it's on hos blog i think
10:58 kf it is
10:59 http://blog.bigballofwax.co.nz[…]patches-with-git/
10:59 drojf thanks just found it too ;:)
11:00 magnuse fixing whitespace?
11:00 fixing whitespace is at http://blog.bigballofwax.co.nz[…]patches-with-git/
11:00 fixing whitespace?
11:00 wahanui i think fixing whitespace is at http://blog.bigballofwax.co.nz[…]patches-with-git/
11:00 drojf oh that looks conveniently easy :)
11:01 rangi++
11:05 kf it is
11:05 and works well too :)
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11:11 * Oak waves
11:11 Oak magnuse
11:11 kf hi Oak
11:12 Oak hello kf
11:12 :)
11:12 magnuse Oak
11:12 ready to do some signing off Oak? ;-)
11:12 Oak hello mtompset
11:13 mtompset Greetings, Oak.
11:13 Oak magnuse, i'm still stuck on Windows :(
11:13 magnuse gah ;-)
11:13 mtompset Hey, Windows is functional.
11:13 Let's not get Debianist. :P
11:13 Oak the worst part is i'm getting comfortable on it... i think
11:14 mtompset Oak...
11:14 You could set up virtual box, and install Koha. ;)
11:14 Oak i know i know
11:14 mtompset virtual box?
11:14 wahanui i think virtual box is free
11:15 Oak ah yes. i read about that couple of weeks ago.
11:15 kf Joubu: still around?
11:15 Oak i am thinking about that
11:15 mtompset virtual is available at https://www.virtualbox.org/
11:15 virtual box is available at https://www.virtualbox.org/
11:15 virtual box?
11:15 wahanui virtual box is free
11:15 mtompset wahanui: virtual box is at https://www.virtualbox.org/
11:15 wahanui ...but virtual box is free...
11:16 mtompset wahanui: virtual box is free and at https://www.virtualbox.org/
11:16 wahanui ...but virtual box is free...
11:16 mtompset wahanui: forget virtual box
11:16 wahanui mtompset: I forgot virtual box
11:16 mtompset wahanui: virtual box is free and at https://www.virtualbox.org/
11:16 wahanui OK, mtompset.
11:16 mtompset virtual box?
11:16 wahanui hmmm... virtual box is free and at https://www.virtualbox.org/
11:17 mtompset I like to use putty, because cut & paste in virtual box is a pain to set up.
11:18 Oak: did you use debian or ubuntu for your Koha setup?
11:19 Oak Debian
11:19 Squeeeeze
11:19 mtompset That should run fine in Virtual Box.
11:20 Do you have a wired or wireless connection?
11:20 Oak both
11:20 mtompset Virtual Box supports Bridged Adapter (fancy way of saying your VM can pretend to be a machine on the net work) for a wired connection.
11:22 For wireless, you can use a combination of NAT and Host-Only to simulate what you need. :)
11:22 I've done both.
11:23 In fact, I tell my VM's they have three adapters, but virtually disconnect the cables from the NAT and Host-Only, so the VM sets up nicely without having to worry about changing things if my networking situation changes.
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11:32 Oak cool. noted! :)
11:38 mtompset I haven't tried this, but khall has a link to virtual appliances: http://kylehall.info/index.php[…]irtual-appliance/
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11:41 magnuse gah, why can't i make overdue_notices.pl -n output anything?
11:41 trying to test bug 8607
11:41 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8607 critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , overdue_notices is broken
11:42 kf what is -n supposed to do?
11:43 magnuse trying to test bug 8607"Do not send any email. Overdue notices that would have been sent to the patrons or to the admin are printed to standard out."
11:43 oops
11:44 * magnuse thought that would be the easiest way for looking at generated messages
11:45 kf ah
11:45 are you worried because you got no email?
11:45 I normally work with the message_queue - checking there
11:45 mtompset Oooo... I hate the single quote vs. double quote problem.
11:46 magnuse kf: there's nothing in message_queue either... i'm completely out of practice...
11:47 i have set up notice triggers
11:47 i have a patron with an overdue item and an email adress...
11:47 what am i missing?
11:48 kf does the patron category get overdues?
11:48 in the patron categore the yes/no pull down
11:48 and which options are you using?
11:49 magnuse lemme check
11:51 i had requires over due = no, but changing that did not help
11:51 drojf oops, should probably not mark the bug as signed off when i want somebody to sign off my follow up. tired brain
11:52 magnuse correct, drojf ;-)
11:53 drojf looks ok now, attached my signed off version for zeno and then obsoleted the followup with the followup to keep the correct order
11:53 magnuse kf: i'm trying to run overdue_notices.pl without any options noe
11:53 s/noe/now/
11:53 kf ah
11:53 you need -t
11:54 or it will not use the triggers at all
11:54 magnuse gah!!
11:55 drojf technically, since it is my followup to zeno's patch, he could signoff the followup, right?
11:55 magnuse kf: still nothing in message_queue, though...
11:55 drojf: yup
11:56 kf what is your delay value and due date?
11:56 anddid you apply the fix yet?
11:56 do you have an adminemailadress or branchemailadress defined? email addresses for your test borrower?
11:57 drojf: anyone can but you :)
11:57 ok, meeting time here
11:57 bbl
11:59 magnuse kf: delay is 1, due date is 2012-08-01, yes the patch is applied,  KohaAdminEmailAddress = root@localhost, yes the test borrower has an email (my real email)
12:03 mtj magnuse, about?
12:03 magnuse mtj: yup
12:03 w00t: Needs Signoff - 80
12:04 who will bring us down under 80?
12:04 mtj 5 minutes  for bug 7589 ?
12:04 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7589 major, P5 - low, ---, robin, Needs Signoff , tinymce editor broken in .deb packages - in 'en' templates
12:05 drojf man that floating status thing in firefox is annoying. every time i try to click on "needs signoff" on bugzilla, that stupid status things comes up to show the url of the link and blocks the click
12:05 mtj can i try something on your koha?
12:05 magnuse mtj: sure
12:05 eythian drojf: status thing?
12:05 mtj hi eythian
12:06 drojf eythian: there is no fixed status bar anymore at the bottom, it is a floating "thing" that pops up to show the url when you hover over a link
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12:06 eythian drojf: ah. I see you haven't installed pentadactyl then ;)
12:06 drojf no, maybe i should
12:08 brb, the uni vpn is terribly slow
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12:08 drojf hm. or maybe its just my wifi :(
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12:11 magnuse eythian, mtj: when i do this on the server where it works: $ ls -l /usr/share/koha/intranet/htdo​cs/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/js/
12:12 i get this, among other things: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root    33 2011-11-27 18:37 tinymce -> ../../../../../../../tinymce2/www
12:12 mtj yes, me too...
12:12 eythian is there anything under that link?
12:12 i.e. is it pointing to something that exists?
12:12 mtj $ cd tinymce
12:12 $ ls
12:13 any 'jscript' dir in there?
12:14 coz, if there is NOT ... how the hell does this resolve correctly?
12:14 -> http://demo.bibkat.no:8080/int[…]y_mce/tiny_mce.js
12:14 eythian mtj: do you have the tinymce package installed in debian?
12:14 magnuse cd /usr/share/koha/intranet/htdo​cs/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/js/; ls ../../../../../../../tinymce2/www
12:14 mtj yes, of course :)
12:14 eythian I can't remember if it's a dependency or not, and I'm doing something else so can't check right now.
12:14 magnuse this lists some files and dirs
12:15 mtj eythian, it is
12:15 magnuse jscripts is one of the dirs
12:15 mtj for tinymce 2.1.3-1 ?
12:16 $ dpkg -l|grep tinymce|grep tinymce
12:16 oops :)
12:17 pastebot "magnuse" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "files and dirs" (31 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/90
12:18 mtj ooooh , tinymce != tinymce2 o_O
12:18 magnuse that last ls took me by surprise - i might have "fixed" something here once...
12:19 mtj ok, thats the bug  :)
12:19 eythian that is unexpected, yes
12:20 mtj: though, I'd prefer to fix it so that it correctly uses debian tinymce.
12:20 I think carrying our own isn't ideal.
12:22 mtj eythian: yeah, i agree  too :)
12:23 always attempt to use the OS' libs, etc...
12:23 ok, here is what still dont understand...
12:23 http://packages.debian.org/squ[…]tinymce2/filelist
12:24 theres is *no* ./tincymce2/www/jscripts dir in there...
12:24 so, magnuse - how come your koha has that dir?
12:24 eythian what are the files in the jscripts, are they elsewhere?
12:25 if they are, we could either make a debian patch that makes the templates point to the right place (which is the sort of thing I've managed to avoid so far), or fake it with symlinks.
12:25 mtj well, the dir under jsripts is just ../../*
12:25 magnuse did you see the paste? i have linked what should have been from the mce package to koha's own files - forget my saying it works
12:26 mtj magnuse, ah ok i missed that bit... its midnite here :)
12:26 magnuse hehe
12:27 mtj eythian, afaik symlinks are the only way
12:27 http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]hment.cgi?id=9467
12:27 theres the patch, with symlinks...
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12:28 mtj ... thats works as expected
12:28 eythian oh, you're way ahead of me then
12:29 mtj aah, actaully there is a tweak
12:30 * magnuse wanders off to find a late lunch
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12:30 mtj intranet-tmpl/prog/en/js/tinymce/jscript/tiny_mce , becomes just ...
12:31 intranet-tmpl/prog/en/js/tinymce
12:31 eythian mtj: well, if you tweak it a bit, I'll look into signing it off. Also, note a couple of pages that should have tinymce.
12:31 (just for testing porpoises.
12:31 )
12:31 mtj the 'jscript/tiny_mce' bit is unnecessary ,  thats the tweak  :)
12:32 ill save the optional tweak for another patch
12:32 eythian Well, one patch is better if it replaces the need for the first one...
12:34 mtj: you have an android device?
12:36 mtj eythian, nope - im still using an old pair of nokia flips (they be going strong)
12:36 eythian ah right. I just was going to get you to test an app for me. It involves beer.
12:37 mtj magnuse, wanna signoff on 7859, then?
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12:38 mtj eythian, there is no way of avoiding the 1st patch
12:38 eythian ah right
12:39 mtj the 2nd patch is just an optional 'really/long/path/to/a/dir/somewhere' tidy
12:40 mtompset I thought the release date for 3.10.0 was pushed forward a month to 2012-11-22?
12:41 The dashboard still has it as October.
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12:43 tcohen hi #koha
12:45 Joubu mveron: for Bug 6813, have you tested: git commit --amend -s (on the 2 patches) git bz attach -e HEAD~1..HEAD ?
12:45 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6813 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, amit.gupta, Needs Signoff , Acquistions - duplicate search across orders, suggestions and catalog
12:47 mveron Joubu: I try to do it again following the wiki... One moment please... :-)
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12:56 mveron Joubu: Hmm, I have problems with signing-off the double patch following http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_bz_configuration
12:57 It says:  git rebase 1stcommitid^ --interactive
12:57 I took the commitID from git log
13:01 pastebot "mveron" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "For Joubu regarding signing off 6813" (17 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/91
13:02 Joubu mveron: git reset --hard origin/master; git bz apply 6813; "y" and "n" (to apply only the first one); git commit --amend -s; git bz attach 6813; "n" and "y" (to apply the second one) git commit --amend -s; git bz attach -e HEAD~1..HEAD
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13:47 kf_mtg gbsd++
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13:54 drojf dpavlin: around?
14:29 mtompset tcohen: I replied to your comment.
14:30 tcohen yeap
14:30 was just reading
14:30 mtompset Make sense?
14:30 tcohen yeap
14:30 mveron Joubu: After the first git bz attach 6813 I get error: short SHA1 6813 is ambiguous. fatal: ambiguous argument '6813': unknown revision or path not in the working tree.   Use '--' to separate paths from revisions
14:30 tcohen i agree it is better to make it incremental
14:31 mtompset removing the files in another bug, right?
14:31 tcohen yes
14:32 mtompset And if INSTALL.ubuntu.12.04 has everything that is mentioned in INSTALL.ubuntu... just overwrite it with INSTALL.ubuntu.12.04 ... no need to version the INSTALL instructions.
14:34 Joubu mveron: oups, it is 2 git bz *apply* et 1 git bz attach at the end
14:38 tcohen ok mtompset, i'm signing the patch for 3.8
14:38 mtompset Thanks.
14:39 I am running a simulation on my poor netbook. Otherwise, I'd be participating more in GBSD.
14:40 mveron Joubu: Thanks :-)   Is "git bz attach -e HEAD~1..HEAD"  for the last line OK or do I need to add some commit-ID after the second HEAD?
14:40 pastebot "mveron" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "For Joubu regarding signing off 6813" (16 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/92
14:45 Joubu "git bz attach -e HEAD~1..HEAD" seems good
14:46 mveron: "git bz attach -e HEAD~1..HEAD" seems good
14:46 kf Joubu++ for lots of qa work today :)
14:47 mveron Joubu: Ok, just wanted to be sure.
14:47 And Joubu++ for helping!
14:47 jcamins_away git bz attach -e xxxx HEAD?
14:48 Joubu jcamins_away: mveron wants to attach 2 last commits
14:49 jcamins_away Ah. I thought he wasn't applying the second.
14:49 Guess I misread. Tiny phone screen
14:50 mveron jcamins_away: It's about bug 6813
14:50 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6813 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, amit.gupta, Needs Signoff , Acquistions - duplicate search across orders, suggestions and catalog
14:50 tcohen Bug 8519
14:50 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8519 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Make koha-index-daemon run on startup
14:51 * tcohen looks like he is sending SPAM
14:51 * jcamins_away does sign offs the lazy way, attaching one at a time.
14:53 tcohen jcamins: what was your git repo for tamil contribs patch?
14:54 something like jcamins/tamilcontribs on github??
14:54 jcamins_away Yes.
14:54 tcohen thanks
14:54 wajasu ok. somebody give me bug number to test
14:55 tcohen Bug 8519
14:55 hehe
14:55 wajasu :}
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14:56 tcohen jcamins_away: are you sure koha-pkg-index-daemon will work?
14:56 (i think it wont)
14:57 jcamins_away No. I didn't finish it.
14:57 tcohen at UNC we use the tamil scripts and libs
14:57 but found that it always used the same temp dir...
14:58 so it was a mess
14:58 wizzyrea off topic, does anyone know what OpenDNS uses to run their DNS service (for filtering purposes)
14:58 jcamins_away I changed temp dirs.
14:59 tcohen it looked the same for me
15:00 mveron Joubu: I run in a traceback while git bz attach -e HEAD~1..HEAD,  and just the second patch is added, first one is somewhere in the nirwana.  Back to field one...
15:00 tcohen i added file::temp::simple to create a temporal one
15:04 Joubu mveron: from the wiki page : "You will have to be pretty fast here, if you dawdle git bz will bring back a nasty error, but you can simply rerun the command (making your edits faster this time) to avoid it. "
15:05 julian_m mveron, try 'git format-patch -s -2' and then submit manually generated patch files
15:07 bye all
15:11 jcamins_away tcohen: I may be mistaken, but I thought I had them changing to different directories.
15:13 mveron Joubu:  But it already attached one patch. Repeating the command just attaches this patch again.
15:13 (the second one)
15:13 Will try Julians way...
15:13 jcamins_away Okay, I think my way is simpler:
15:14 git-bz attach -e 6813 HEAD^ && git-bz attach 7813 HEAD
15:14 mveron In one line?
15:14 jcamins_away Or, more likely, I'd do it in two lines because I don't want to type that much, and I can just backspace the ^.
15:15 If it's two lines, don't use &&
15:16 tcohen: if you have an alternate script that uses the Tamil indexer and handles multiple instances, I'll switch to yours. :)
15:18 tcohen jcamins_away: we *still* didn't switch to packages, so I use the file in Bug 8519 for setting a daemon for each instance
15:18 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8519 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Make koha-index-daemon run on startup
15:18 tcohen I just adjusted the Tamil code to create a temp dir to work in
15:21 jcamins_away Hmmm... I think I could adapt that script with packages easily enough.
15:21 But I'll figure it out later.
15:22 For now I'm going to explore Burlington, VT.
15:22 mveron jcamins_away ++  for the good advice!
15:22 Joubu mveron: the correct syntax is: git bz attach 6473 HEAD~1^..
15:23 sorry, i'm going to correct the wiki page
15:24 tcohen jcamins_away: i'd like to adapt the Tamil code and put it into Koha/SearchEngine/Zebra/Index.pm
15:25 mveron Joubu: Good idea with the wiki  :-)  And anyway, I'm glad that it worked out for now...  :-)
15:27 Joubu end of week \o/ good bye !
15:28 wizzyrea bye joubu
15:28 mveron Bye and have a nice weekend, Joubu  :-)
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15:39 gaetan_B bye !
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15:51 ago43 Hi, if I want to create a custom search-tag/index, do I need to alter any other files besides these three: bib1.att, ccl.properties, record.abs?
15:54 drojf add the index to getindex in Search.pm
15:55 ago43 ahhh.  that sounds good.  thanks, drojf!
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16:02 ago43 One other question on adding a custom index: what needs to be done to get the index to appear on the Advanced Search dropdown?
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16:11 wajasu tcohen: i rebooted my server to get memory for my test vms, do you really want me to test that bug you mentioned? which #?
16:11 tcohen bug was 8519
16:13 wajasu does it need to be on Ubuntu or can it be debian?
16:18 tcohen debian
16:18 it should work on any modern distro
16:18 (i.e. not CentOS 5)
16:18 wajasu or archlinux
16:25 drojf ago43: look at opac-advsearch.tt
16:25 mtompset If you are crazy enough to attempt something like CentOS, it must be 6.
16:25 CentOS 5 doesn't comes with perl 5.10 by default.
16:25 ago43 thanks again, drojf!
16:25 drojf ago43: find         <select name="idx"> and add your index in the pattern you see there
16:45 bag drojf -- much much easier to do it through Jquery instead of bothering to edit files on something that probably wouldn't make it's way in
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17:12 drojf ago43: bag is right, that would save you some trouble with updates too i guess
17:12 * drojf should finally learn some jquery
17:13 ago43 me too!  but thanks for the help, I learned a connection that I wasn't thinking of.
17:16 drojf yeah, i'm helping
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17:17 ago43 drojf++
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17:50 * mtompset waves byes.
17:54 drojf not sure what that has to do with koha :P
17:55 cait I think nekls tweets to twitter automatically
18:01 bag @seen hankbank
18:01 huginn bag: hankbank was last seen in #koha 49 weeks, 6 days, 23 hours, 52 minutes, and 58 seconds ago: <hankbank> :) well alright then!
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18:13 drojf matts_away: bug 7294 does not apply for me
18:13 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7294 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, matthias.meusburger, Needs Signoff , status "in order"
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18:35 mveron Good night everybody  :-)
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18:38 drojf good night mveron
18:45 wizzyrea man I hate fridays - I mean, i love fridays but it's always lonely here :)
18:45 fcapovilla Hum, automatic authority links don't work for me... I get this error : oAuth error: Cannot sort according to sequence (207)  Bib-1
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18:47 wizzyrea hey sekjal :)
18:48 sekjal hey, wizzyrea
18:48 wahanui I LIKE SCIENCE and I GEEK KOHA
18:48 wizzyrea hehe
18:49 sekjal wizzyrea:  it's been a while; how're things?
18:51 wizzyrea fantastic :)
18:51 how about you?
18:52 sekjal doing well; just got back from vacation in Colorado
18:52 cait oh nice :)
18:52 hi sekjal :)
18:53 sekjal hi, cait!
18:53 ago43 hey, sekjal!
18:53 sekjal howdy, ago43!
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19:22 wajasu tcohen: for BUG8519, I did a std install, and during the make install, I got  "Can't open blib/SCRIPT_DIR/koha-zebraqueue-ctl.sh for read at rewrite-config.PL line 184". It seems the Makefile.PL processes it at line 525.
19:35 when i tst a bug, and i see the fix, should i just make the fix, create a new/amended patch and attach it to the bug report for further signoff?
19:36 the patch i tested missed a change int he Makefile.PL, I can fix that, but can i signoff, or must i report the failure in the bugzila and let them fix it.
19:37 jenkins_koha Starting build #133 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
19:37 rangi you can sign off the first one, and provide a follow up fix
19:37 and note that the follow up one needs to be signed off too, before the bug can be marked signed off
19:37 wajasu ok.  so you guys will know to apply both.
19:38 can i sign off the followup one?
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19:39 rangi nope, you can't sign off your own patch .. well you can but you cant mark the bug signed off
19:39 but hopefully the original author will see it and sign off on yours
19:41 wajasu i can't signoff the original one in this case, because I can't finish running a make install in this case.  to move forward to create a followup.
19:42 if i did a followup, would i just note it in the bug comments that they need to go together, or does bugzilla havea dropdown or place to specify dependencies.
19:42 rangi just note it in the comments
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19:43 wajasu ok.
19:43 wizzyrea whaddup rangi
19:46 rangi heya wizzyrea
19:46 wahanui I LIKE SCIENCE and I GEEK KOHA
19:48 * wizzyrea likes this new kick wahanui is on
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20:16 * drojf returns from the rain and brings icecream
20:16 cait yay!
20:16 hope you didn't get water into it :)
20:16 drojf no :)
20:16 it's not that rainy :)
20:17 cait :)
20:17 I'd like some rain here
20:18 mbalmer @later tell mveron wiki geht wieder...
20:18 huginn mbalmer: The operation succeeded.
20:18 mbalmer evening, folks!
20:19 drojf how would i repair a patch of somebody else? i had one that did not apply, but it was obvious that only one line had to be changed. i tried to apply, changed the line in the file where it was supposed to go and said it was resolved. but that was not the right way i guess since the patch did not work
20:19 hey mbalmer
20:19 cait hm you fixed a conflict?
20:19 drojf i tried to
20:19 but i did not succeed
20:19 cait and it didn't work?
20:20 then I would note on the bug that patch does not apply and you are not sure how to fix the conflict
20:20 drojf i think the way i tried it was wrong
20:20 cait wrong in git or wrong with the code?
20:20 drojf but i want to learn how to do it ;)
20:21 i think it did not apply the other files at all
20:21 wizzyrea the first question?
20:21 wahanui "What are you trying to do?"  "What is the goal?" or "What problem are you experiencing?"
20:21 drojf i thought it would apply everything but the one that had the conflict
20:21 wizzyrea what was the exact error message
20:22 drojf mom
20:24 http://paste.koha-community.org/93
20:24 didn't we have a bot to do that?
20:25 cait if you get this
20:25 it doesn't apply anything
20:25 then you have to do a git am --abort first
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20:25 cait and then a git am -iu3 /tmp...
20:25 wizzyrea or you can fix it
20:25 and then git add <the file>
20:25 cait and then you will see where the conflict is
20:25 and then what wizzyrea says
20:25 drojf i did that
20:25 wizzyrea oh, I use the git bz that does the 3 way automatically
20:26 then git am --resolved
20:26 drojf i did hat too
20:26 that
20:26 wizzyrea and it didn't work?
20:26 drojf no. but then it's maybe the patch
20:26 cait and then git am --resolved?
20:26 drojf yes
20:26 cait does your git log show the patch as applied?
20:26 and is the git status clean?
20:26 drojf not anymore, i deleted the branch after i screwed it up more ;)
20:26 but it did
20:26 wizzyrea oh.
20:27 drojf rangi++ # thanks!
20:27 that was not related to my problem ;)
20:27 cait sign off :)
20:27 * wizzyrea would not have been surprised if it was
20:28 drojf ok but then my way to do that was ok, i will try it again later
20:28 cait :)
20:28 wizzyrea yea, it looks like you did it right
20:28 i mean, those are the steps anyway
20:28 and yea, fixing that is no biggie deal.
20:41 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #133: SUCCESS in 1 hr 4 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.8.x/133/
20:41 fridolyn.somers: Bug 8576: Software error on authority edition when using merge
20:41 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8576 critical, P2, ---, fridolyn.somers, Passed QA , Software error on authority edition when using merge
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20:54 wajasu for patch i'm testing, it supplies a new init. script to start a koha-index-daemon , but that doesn't exist in the patch, or koha, so it just respawns every thirty seconds. bug8519
20:55 wizzyrea bug 8519
20:55 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8519 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Make koha-index-daemon run on startup
20:55 wajasu rangi: i'm going to just put my findings in comments for tcohen to work on.  as some other code might have been missing in the patch.
20:56 rangi cool
20:59 wajasu rangi: after putting my comments in, is there a "state" other than "needs signoff" i should put it in so tcohen knows to work on it, and someone else won't start trying to sign it off?
20:59 failed QA?
21:01 cait hm if it needs work sounds like failed qa
21:04 rangi yep
21:15 jcamins_away wajasu, that patch requires Tamil contribs. Instructions for installation are inINSTALL.*.
21:19 wajasu hmm.
21:20 jcamins_away There needs to be a warning, but that might allow it to go forward.
21:21 it=testing
21:21 wajasu so its a baby step.
21:22 i grepped for Tamil, contribs, and see nothing in my branch.  where should i get them.
21:23 jcamins_away It's on CPAN.
21:23 Koha:Contrib:Tamil or something.
21:24 wajasu Koha:Contrib:Tamil  ok.  I'll add it, and try it out.
21:28 of course, no deb packags exists, or do they in koha community/common repo
21:32 jcamins_away wajasu: no, not yet. I built packages, but my apt repo is not currently accessible to the world.
21:34 wajasu ok
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21:44 * robin: Bug 8162: allow packages to work on Ubuntu Precise
21:44 * mtompset: Bug 8329 - GetLostItems in C4::Items.pm has a SELECT * Provided a smaller list based on reports/itemlost.tt
21:44 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8162 critical, P3, ---, robin, Passed QA , packaging scripts create user incorrectly
21:44 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8329 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Passed QA , GetLostItems in C4::Items.pm has a SELECT *
21:45 wajasu well, Moose too as dep
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21:48 wajasu must I have PERL5LIB set according to the  make install  before I cpan install?
21:49 i'm pulling in lots of stuff
21:49 jcamins_away Yeah, that's the problem with it. A lot of dependencies.
21:50 You do need PERL5LIB set.
21:50 KOHA_CONF is optioanl.
21:50 *optional
21:53 wajasu ok trying with PERl5LIB
21:56 moos looks like some sort of persistence framework
21:58 jcamins_away No, that's AnyEvent.
21:58 Moose is just... Moose.
21:58 An object-oriented metaframework behemoth.
21:58 * jcamins_away wanders off.
22:00 wajasu so when a patch requires new perl modules, how does one specifiy that.   (in the bugzilla comments?)
22:00 ok it installed.  lets see now.
22:01 jcamins_away wajasu: you add the requirements to PerlModules.pm.
22:02 But the idea is that this pach allows easy access to optional features, so we don't have to explode Koha's system requirements.
22:04 wajasu since i am just testing, and tcohen didn't add that, should i add that he needs to add the dependency to Koha:Contrib:Tamil to PerlModules.pm?
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22:12 rangi wajasu: thats quite a tricky one, because we want that to be optional, but yes adding it as an optional require would be what is needed i think
22:13 someone needs to send a patch to fix my flu
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22:17 wajasu so this patch, if pushed removes obsolete zebra index scripts, and uses the Tamil contribs.  Does misc/cronjobs/zebraqueue_start.pl need to be kept, or removed as part of this patch?
22:18 i'm assuming Tamil's stuff reads the zebaqueue accordingly, so one wouldn't want to mistakenly run the old way.
22:19 so this patch isn't just about running the indexer, but incremental indexing as well.
22:19 i sure can pick em.
22:20 rangi hehe yeah you did pick a particularly tricky one
22:23 gotta say, we really appreciate you putting time into testing things wajasu
22:25 wajasu if its optional, should this patch remove misc/cronjobs/zebraqueue_start.pl,  or do you want to support both?
22:26 you are not allowed to have the flu on GBSD
22:26 rangi heh
22:27 nope dont remove the cron job
22:27 actually 2 secs lemme read it
22:28 hmm yeah maybe it should remove it
22:29 it looks like a duplicate of rebuild_zebra.pl
22:29 and an unmaintained version of that
22:29 wajasu OK. should i include all of Koha:Contrib:Tamil  OR just the  Koha:Contrib:Tamil:Indexer  and Koha:Contrib:Tamil:IndexerDaemon components.
22:31 rangi hmmm you probably want an opinion on that from someone on less drugs
22:31 i would think the latter 2
22:31 but no 100% on that
22:33 wajasu I'm going to document this in the bug.  then let the new indexer etc run over the weekend, and ask again on Monday, before submitting a patch.  But I won't change its state.
22:33 unitl i know what the patch needs.
22:34 rangi sounds good to me
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22:37 druthb o/
22:39 rangi hi druthb
22:39 druthb Hiya, rangi. :)
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22:52 martian hi, a question about marc view and expanded marc view
22:52 i know that koha is using expanded marc view, does it also support the regular marc view?
22:55 rangi hmm?
22:55 not understanding what you are asking
22:59 martian ummm
22:59 in opac view
22:59 patrons can see different views of the records right?
23:00 there is the regular view, marc view, extended marc view, and ISBD?
23:01 rangi yep, most people turn off all except regular view, becuase 99.9% of the world don't understand MARC
23:02 http://opac.koha.workbuffer.or[…]?biblionumber=325
23:02 thats the marc view
23:02 if you click view plain, you can see it without the labels
23:02 martian where did that "view plain" come from?
23:03 rangi its in master
23:03 martian master....
23:03 again...not IT
23:03 where in master?
23:03 or where is master?
23:03 rangi what version of koha are you running?
23:03 martian 3.8.3
23:04 rangi it appears to be there too
23:05 martian ok...what "master" are you referring to?
23:06 wajasu the latest code branch that developers are working on
23:06 rangi master is the development branch of koha
23:07 but that view plain when into the 3.8.x branch on april 4 2012
23:07 and is in 3.8.3 so you should be seeing that link
23:08 martian well apparently i can't see it using the patron's view
23:08 there's no "view plain" for me to click
23:08 rangi are you on the marcdetail page?
23:09 martian am i supposed to do something on the admin side to make it show?
23:09 yes i'm on the marcdetail page
23:10 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #135: SUCCESS in 1 hr 3 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.8.x/135/
23:10 * fridolyn.somers: Bug 8513: OPAC detail page broken with XSLT
23:10 * colin.campbell: Bug 8514 Restore Patron Name Display Order
23:10 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8513 major, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Passed QA , OPAC detail page broken with XSLT
23:10 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8514 normal, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Passed QA , Display of patron results changed display order
23:10 rangi yes you need OPACXSLTDetailDsiplay on
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23:12 martian although i have no idea what you just said, i'll let IT take a look at it
23:12 rangi its a systempreference
23:22 martian thanks
23:22 got it fixed
23:22 rangi cool
23:36 ok, 3 year olds do not care if you have the flu, i have to go play
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