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| 00:43 | dcook joined #koha | |
| 00:43 | dcook | Allo #koha |
| 00:48 | Does anyone know if BSort1 is actually connected in any way to anything? | |
| 01:03 | * dcook | takes back his question |
| 01:03 | dcook | Since Sort 1 and Sort 2 show as empty text fields when there is nothing defined in the BSort1 or BSort2 fields, I never realized that they were actually connected! |
| 01:04 | And that drop-downs would be created if BSort1 and BSort2 were actually defined! | |
| 01:04 | ^_^ | |
| 02:16 | NZICA joined #koha | |
| 02:17 | NZICA | Hi all :) |
| 02:17 | does anyone have 20 seconds to help with an SQL question? | |
| 02:18 | rangi | probably not many around this time of the day, its late at night or early in the morning for most people |
| 02:19 | NZICA | Fair enough... didn't realise IRC users needed sleep >.> |
| 04:09 | cait joined #koha | |
| 04:12 | rangi | hi cait |
| 04:12 | cait | hi rangi |
| 04:16 | * dcook | waves to cait |
| 04:16 | cait | hi dcook :) |
| 04:17 | dcook | :) |
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| 05:58 | cait | mveron++ |
| 06:06 | BobB joined #koha | |
| 06:16 | marcelr joined #koha | |
| 06:16 | marcelr | hi #koha |
| 06:17 | cait | hi marcelr :) |
| 06:39 | mtj joined #koha | |
| 06:49 | ala_3v0 joined #koha | |
| 06:51 | ala_3v0 | I have this koha software error message when launching the staff interface from browser: |
| 06:51 | Can't call method "config" on unblessed reference at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Context.pm line 680. Compilation failed in require at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Auth.pm line 33. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Auth.pm line 33. Compilation failed in require at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/members/moremember.pl line 39. BEGIN failed--com | |
| 06:51 | that is part of it | |
| 06:52 | can anyone help | |
| 06:54 | rangi | Does the early part say something about can't open koha-conf.xml ? |
| 06:55 | Chances are it's file permissions if so | |
| 06:56 | You can paste the whole of the error at paste.koha-community.org | |
| 06:56 | mveron joined #koha | |
| 06:56 | rangi | But now I have to out my children to bed |
| 06:57 | mveron | Hi #koha |
| 06:58 | ala_3v0 | thanks rangi i'll try to paste it there |
| 06:59 | what if I restore a backup sql file? | |
| 06:59 | sophie_m joined #koha | |
| 07:03 | ala_3v0 | http://mibpaste.com/lvFQLv |
| 07:04 | The error message is on the link above | |
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| 07:19 | kf joined #koha | |
| 07:19 | kf | good morning #koha :) |
| 07:21 | mveron | Hi kf |
| 07:21 | :-) | |
| 07:21 | kf | hi mveron :) |
| 07:25 | gaetan_B joined #koha | |
| 07:25 | gaetan_B | hello :) |
| 07:27 | rangi | hi kf mveron and gaetan_B |
| 07:27 | mveron | hi rangi |
| 07:28 | kf | please programmers, don't be too clever when constructing sentences in your templates... *sigh* (directed to noone special) |
| 07:28 | rangi | untranslatable strings? |
| 07:28 | kf | no |
| 07:28 | rangi | actually thats a good rule in general, don't try and be too clever |
| 07:28 | kf | sentences puzzled together with if constructs |
| 07:28 | rangi | be it in templates or in code |
| 07:29 | readable code > clever code | |
| 07:30 | * kf | nods |
| 07:30 | hdl joined #koha | |
| 07:32 | * mveron | nods as well |
| 07:34 | * mbalmer | suppresses a comment about "readable" and "Perl"... |
| 07:35 | * kf | suppresses a comment about how you can write unreadable bad code in every language... |
| 07:40 | * mbalmer | points at http://www.ioccc.org/ |
| 07:43 | * mveron | will file a bug to have better translatable text in: koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/tools |
| 07:46 | kf | mveron++ |
| 07:47 | mveron | And the file name: koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/tools/picture-upload.tt |
| 07:53 | sophie_m joined #koha | |
| 08:00 | rangi | hmm thats not a very helpful answer |
| 08:01 | https://github.com/ssp/pazpar2[…]uecomment-7518531 | |
| 08:01 | * rangi | decides not to use code when the author doesnt know what license he has put it under |
| 08:02 | kf | probably safer |
| 08:03 | mveron | Bug 8573 - not sure to which component it should belong |
| 08:03 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8573 normal, P3, ---, veron, NEW , Translation difficult in picture-upload.tt due to nested sentence in if/foreach/if/elsif - construction |
| 08:03 | kf | hm you could put it in i18n or templates |
| 08:03 | julian_m joined #koha | |
| 08:03 | mveron | kf: Ok switched it to templates |
| 08:04 | kf | translate.koha... would be more used for a problem with pootle I think :) |
| 08:30 | eythian joined #koha | |
| 08:36 | rangi | hi eythian |
| 08:36 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #124 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 08:37 | eythian | hiya |
| 08:41 | rangi | wow mail from may! |
| 08:41 | must have been stuck in a mail queue somewhere | |
| 08:54 | kf | hi eythian :) |
| 08:54 | * kf | is counting days... :P |
| 08:54 | eythian | hello |
| 08:54 | heh | |
| 08:55 | mveron | Hi eythian :-) |
| 08:56 | kf: Patch for Bug 8573 would need a critical eye... | |
| 08:56 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8573 normal, P3, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Translation difficult in picture-upload.tt due to nested sentence in if/foreach/if/elsif - construction |
| 09:22 | chris_n` joined #koha | |
| 09:39 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.8.x build #124: SUCCESS in 1 hr 3 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.8.x/124/ |
| 09:39 | robin: Bug 8547 - JS error in star ratings breaks IE | |
| 09:39 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8547 major, P2, ---, robin, Passed QA , Enabling star ratings causes javascript errors that cause IE to have a boo boo |
| 09:56 | hdl | !later tell BobB creating koha-OZ lists today |
| 09:57 | @later tell BobB creating koha-OZ lists today | |
| 09:57 | huginn | hdl: The operation succeeded. |
| 09:58 | kf | hdl: have you seen the request for an arabic list? |
| 10:08 | eythian | mveron: that's for that signoff on the stars things - it's a hard bug to reproduce sometimes. |
| 10:14 | mveron: *thanks* for that... | |
| 10:14 | too early in the afternoon... | |
| 10:29 | drojf joined #koha | |
| 10:30 | drojf | good day #koha |
| 10:30 | rangi | hi drojf |
| 10:31 | drojf | hey rangi |
| 10:32 | * gaetan_B | is again looking for a high res version of the koha logo... |
| 10:37 | gaetan_B | don't we have a more recent and better version than this one ? : http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ack-and-white.jpg |
| 10:39 | i thought the tagline was more like 'open-source integrated library system' | |
| 10:40 | rangi | we have both |
| 10:40 | and thats only one of the logos | |
| 10:41 | drojf | from june 17: |
| 10:41 | (11:50:02) mbalmer: I was asking slef about the availability of a vectorized Koha logo. | |
| 10:41 | (11:50:23) slef: We will have one used on our banners and will publish it as soon as we've paid the designer. | |
| 10:41 | (11:50:53) slef: I think there may be an earlier one around, used on Calyx's banner, but I need to email Irma to ask. | |
| 10:42 | gaetan_B | rangi: hmmm, where are ther other ones ? |
| 10:42 | rangi | i dont know |
| 10:42 | gaetan_B | oh ok :D |
| 10:43 | rangi | youd have to ask the people who hijacked the domain |
| 10:43 | gaetan_B | i have to blame myself to some extent though |
| 10:43 | rangi | because the were tifs on the old koha site |
| 10:43 | gaetan_B | i did vectorize something a fex month back and i can't seem to find it again |
| 10:44 | *few | |
| 10:44 | rangi | ah ha! |
| 10:44 | lucky im paranoid and backed that site up | |
| 10:44 | 5 mins ill put a copy of them all up for you | |
| 10:46 | gaetan_B | :) |
| 10:48 | rangi | theres even an old freehand file there |
| 10:50 | hmm 1500 .. we have a contestant in this | |
| 10:50 | * rangi | watches |
| 10:56 | * drojf | is waiting for high res colour pictures of martians |
| 11:00 | * kf | waves |
| 11:00 | mtompset joined #koha | |
| 11:00 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. |
| 11:02 | gaetan_B | thanks rangi, i'll use one of those to try and do a vectorized version |
| 11:03 | kf | gaetan_B: perhaps mail slef and ask? he might have one available now :) |
| 11:03 | gaetan_B | kf: that's a good point |
| 11:04 | hmmm kf what's his real name / email address ? | |
| 11:04 | kf | mj |
| 11:04 | mtompset | irc regulars? |
| 11:04 | wahanui | hmmm... irc regulars is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Regulars |
| 11:04 | kf | it seems I forgot his last name |
| 11:05 | gaetan_B: look for mj on the mailing list :) | |
| 11:05 | mj ray :) | |
| 11:06 | drojf | hi kf :) |
| 11:06 | mtompset | If you wanted to change the font of h1#libraryname, how would you do it? |
| 11:06 | drojf | mtompset: jquery maybe? |
| 11:06 | kf | css? |
| 11:06 | wahanui | well, css is probably easier |
| 11:07 | drojf | probably ;) |
| 11:07 | mtompset | Yes, I figured CSS. |
| 11:07 | kf | but you know, fonts are not so easy |
| 11:07 | mtompset | But for the life of me, I am dumbfounded. |
| 11:07 | kf | you know that the font must be available on the computer viewing it? |
| 11:07 | mtompset | The font on our webpage has reverted to the default, despite no CSS changes. |
| 11:07 | kf | I think there are newer tricks around now, but haven't used one of those |
| 11:08 | which font did you use? | |
| 11:08 | and did it really revert? are you looking at it from the same computer? | |
| 11:08 | mtompset | BlackJarRegular... it's not a normal font that is installed everywhere. |
| 11:08 | kf | see... |
| 11:08 | mtompset | Yes, it reverted. |
| 11:08 | kf | you have it installed? did you install a newer version of your browser or changed the settings? |
| 11:09 | mtompset | It works for my coworker. |
| 11:09 | kf | ah |
| 11:09 | see | |
| 11:09 | local | |
| 11:09 | mtompset | It stopped working for me. |
| 11:09 | kf | I would say, font or browser settings |
| 11:09 | mtompset | My co-worker is several hundred miles away. |
| 11:09 | He's never gone to the site before. | |
| 11:10 | It stopped working for the users too. | |
| 11:12 | Annoyingly, it's like the browser is loading the remote font, and then still decides to use default. | |
| 11:12 | chinu joined #koha | |
| 11:12 | mtompset | And it's not a browser thing, because I tried under IE and Firefox, and cleared both caches. |
| 11:12 | chinu | hello |
| 11:12 | wahanui | what's up, chinu |
| 11:13 | kf | I think if you want to use a special font, it's probably easier to use a picture instead |
| 11:13 | safer | |
| 11:13 | chinu | i need answer for a Q |
| 11:13 | have u used opac search | |
| 11:13 | ? | |
| 11:13 | opac search? | |
| 11:13 | wahanui | i guess opac search is good working for english biblios. i think only problem for mongolian. when i search mongolian than wrong results. |
| 11:14 | chinu | how it serches? |
| 11:14 | kf | chinu: what is your problem? |
| 11:14 | chinu | u know about deatil? |
| 11:14 | kf | wahanui: forget opac search? |
| 11:14 | wahanui | kf: I forgot opac search |
| 11:14 | kf | chinu: sorry, I can't help you if you don't have a more specific quesion |
| 11:15 | can you describe your problem? | |
| 11:16 | eythian | https://twitter.com/Oatmeal/st[…]32352317603713024 <-- drojf |
| 11:16 | chinu | while searching which data it matches with query |
| 11:16 | ? | |
| 11:17 | kf | eythian: you are mean, now I will have nightmares again |
| 11:17 | chinu: I am sorry, I don't understand. where are you from? | |
| 11:17 | drojf | eythian: lol excellent |
| 11:19 | chinu | about opac-search u know? |
| 11:20 | drojf | chinu: please try to explain a) what you are trying to do b) what is not working for you |
| 11:22 | chinu | I want learn the perl program who searches for given query |
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| 11:23 | chinu | I am from computer science |
| 11:23 | eythian | chinu: then you start with opac-search.pl and trace through it until you get to Search.pm |
| 11:24 | (then you stop because you've started drinking) | |
| 11:24 | drojf | and then you have enough |
| 11:24 | heh | |
| 11:24 | * mtompset | laughs. |
| 11:24 | chinu | ??? |
| 11:24 | drojf | you will understand once you looked at search.pm |
| 11:25 | chinu | anybody from computer science? |
| 11:25 | eythian | I have a masters degree in it... |
| 11:26 | kf | ... and you don't dare to go into Search.pm? |
| 11:26 | eythian | Nope. |
| 11:26 | I just protest that computer science is all about the theory, not the implementation. | |
| 11:26 | And then go to the pub. | |
| 11:27 | BobB | hdl? |
| 11:27 | wahanui | hdl is probably saying, who when where, how. |
| 11:27 | rangi | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]earch_Rewrite_RFC |
| 11:27 | eythian | BobB: he's having lunch right now |
| 11:27 | BobB | hi eythian, are you at Biblibre now? |
| 11:28 | eythian | Oui. |
| 11:28 | BobB | ah, bien |
| 11:28 | @later tell HDL thanks! I have let Irma know. | |
| 11:28 | huginn | BobB: The operation succeeded. |
| 11:29 | sophie_m joined #koha | |
| 11:29 | BobB | eythian lunch must be good there. |
| 11:29 | I like lunch. :) | |
| 11:29 | eythian | it is good here |
| 11:30 | kf: in answer to the question: North Maharashtra University, Jalgaon, India | |
| 11:30 | kf | oh |
| 11:30 | thx | |
| 11:31 | chinu | how u get that I am from North Maharashtra university, Jalgaon, India? |
| 11:31 | eythian | masters degree in computer science ;) |
| 11:31 | BobB | LOL ! |
| 11:32 | chinu | really tell me how? |
| 11:32 | eythian? | |
| 11:32 | wahanui | eythian is in NZ. ;) or a good influence |
| 11:32 | chinu | kf? |
| 11:32 | wahanui | i heard kf was cait or really, really sweet. or <reply>she gives me memory loss or a holds expert. |
| 11:33 | eythian | http://youtu.be/hkDD03yeLnU <-- sorta like this |
| 11:33 | BobB | shut up wahanui |
| 11:33 | eythian | wahanui: shut up wahanui is <reply>$who is making me cry! |
| 11:33 | wahanui | OK, eythian. |
| 11:33 | BobB | shut up wahanui |
| 11:33 | wahanui | BobB is making me cry! |
| 11:34 | hdl | wahanui: forget hdl |
| 11:34 | wahanui | hdl: I forgot hdl |
| 11:35 | BobB | hi hdl |
| 11:37 | * mveron | back from lunch |
| 11:37 | kf | chinu: ip address I assume |
| 11:37 | mveron | eythian: Thanks for the thanks above, welcome :-) |
| 11:38 | eythian | kf: yep |
| 11:38 | nengard joined #koha | |
| 11:41 | kf | hi nengard |
| 11:41 | nengard | hello |
| 11:43 | mbalmer | hi nengard |
| 11:44 | nengard, say, I am writing an article about Koha, may I use your group picture from edinbrugh as an illustration? (magazine for swiss librarians) | |
| 11:45 | nengard | Of course you can. |
| 11:48 | mbalmer | ok, many thanks! |
| 11:52 | mtompset | Oh that was an overt demonstration of no knowledge on CSI's part. |
| 11:57 | Okay, perhaps cross site font downloads is the problem... let's try .... | |
| 12:01 | Okay... so why don't cross-site font downloads work? | |
| 12:05 | eythian | probably something to do with security |
| 12:06 | that's usually the reason cross-site <noun/verb> doesn't work | |
| 12:20 | mtompset | Their fonts! How can fonts be a security risk? |
| 12:20 | Do they have some evil pre-display hook? | |
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| 12:25 | eythian | I think it's to prevent *ahem* <airquotes>stealing</airquotes> of fonts from other sites. |
| 12:25 | If you set the Access-Control-Allow-Origin header, you can specify who is allowed to use them | |
| 12:25 | kf | @wunder Konstanz |
| 12:25 | huginn | kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 19.0°C (2:25 PM CEST on August 06, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Rising). |
| 12:30 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
| 12:32 | kf | hi oleonard |
| 12:32 | :) | |
| 12:32 | @wunder Konstanz | |
| 12:32 | huginn | kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 18.8°C (2:30 PM CEST on August 06, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Rising). |
| 12:32 | kf | hm. it's raining huginn |
| 12:33 | edveal joined #koha | |
| 12:33 | eythian | I hope huginn is not heavy, getting hit would but unpleasant |
| 12:33 | kf | ? |
| 12:33 | eythian | though, you'd think a raven would just fly. |
| 12:34 | Well, you said it was raining huginn. | |
| 12:34 | kf | lol |
| 12:34 | jcamins | Hehe. |
| 12:36 | mtompset | Greetings, jcamins and oleonard . |
| 12:40 | @wunder MNL | |
| 12:40 | huginn | mtompset: The current temperature in Manila, Philippines is 23.0°C (8:00 PM PHT on August 06, 2012). Conditions: Heavy Rain. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 23.0°C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Rising). |
| 12:40 | mtompset | Yep... that's about right. |
| 12:41 | It's a really loud rain. | |
| 12:43 | kf | hm rain in marseille, in Konstanz and in manila... who in #koha is to blame? :) |
| 12:44 | liw | no rain in Manchester, UK |
| 12:44 | drojf | @wunder berlin, germany |
| 12:44 | huginn | drojf: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is 24.2°C (2:42 PM CEST on August 06, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 46%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Rising). |
| 12:44 | oleonard | Our rain was yesterday |
| 12:44 | eythian | liw: I think maybe you're in the wrong UK |
| 12:44 | drojf | it's sunny here actually |
| 12:45 | liw | eythian, pfft, this is the right UK, it's that day of the month when it doesn't rain |
| 12:45 | eythian | good old first-monday, eh. |
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| 13:00 | * oleonard | is more tired than he should be having not even stayed up late to watch a robot land on Mars |
| 13:00 | mtompset | Greetings, tcohen |
| 13:00 | Greetings, ago43 | |
| 13:02 | tcohen | hi mtompset |
| 13:02 | mtompset | I'd look at my bugs list, but if I do that... I won't stop coding. |
| 13:03 | mveron joined #koha | |
| 13:04 | oleonard | Hm, so suspending a hold doesn't exclude it from showing up in the holds queue report? That seems like a pretty major failure. |
| 13:06 | Bug 8419 | |
| 13:06 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8419 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Suspended holds appear on the daily holds queue |
| 13:09 | nengard | oleonard bug 8412 is updated per your suggestions |
| 13:09 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8412 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nengard, Needs Signoff , add color icon set |
| 13:10 | jcamins | nengard: is one of your libraries planning on using that? I don't think I've ever encountered a library willing to put that kind of time into noting the colors of books. |
| 13:11 | nengard | jcamins nope, but I did read an article in a law library magazine about a library that does that |
| 13:11 | and it doesn't really hurt anything to have the option there | |
| 13:11 | jcamins | No, it certainly doesn't. |
| 13:11 | nengard | it is more likely to be used in a special library - law specifically - I think |
| 13:12 | cause it's easy to bulk edit a bunch of items cause you know what color each series is :) | |
| 13:12 | jcamins | I was just amazed that someone was going to go back and retroactively fill all that out. |
| 13:12 | nengard | I would be amazed if anyone did! |
| 13:12 | in any way other than bulk editing | |
| 13:12 | oleonard | jcamins: This from the guy who added an option to allow libraries to scan and upload book covers ;) |
| 13:13 | * mtompset | grins. |
| 13:13 | mtompset | jcamins? |
| 13:13 | wahanui | i guess jcamins is A-Grade developper on Koha willing to rewrite it from top to bottom. Good Luck jcamins |
| 13:13 | mtompset | That is going to haunt you for a long time, jcamins. :) |
| 13:14 | jcamins | oleonard: there doesn't tend to be a lot of retrospective photography to do, if you're using that feature. |
| 13:15 | kf | hm color bulk update feature using lists of scanned barcodes? :) |
| 13:16 | oleonard | Now, just write an image-recognition bot to load OPAC results, average the color from book cover images, and set the color that way |
| 13:16 | kf | but that's the cover color, not the spine color... |
| 13:16 | jcamins | Or you have a digitization grant, I suppose. |
| 13:16 | However, I had forgotten how monotonous the colors of law books are... you have entire shelves that are all red or all green or the like. | |
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| 13:24 | eythian | hey SQL people, why would these two queries give a different number of rows: http://paste.koha-community.org/73 and http://paste.koha-community.org/74 -- the only difference is the fields to select. |
| 13:25 | * mveron | is about to sign-off Bug 5349 with 2 patches, but is stuck with the steps on http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_bz_configuration |
| 13:25 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5349 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , Moving an order |
| 13:26 | kf | mveron: what is the problem? :) |
| 13:26 | mveron | git rebase 1stcommitid^ --interactive What is this id? |
| 13:27 | kf | ah |
| 13:27 | if you do git log | |
| 13:27 | jcamins | eythian: I have no idea. |
| 13:27 | kf | the unreadable part |
| 13:27 | eythian | jcamins: one gives 56, the other 106 (on the db I'm testing) |
| 13:28 | I consider 56 to be the correct answer. | |
| 13:29 | kf | may I ask what it is you are trying to do? |
| 13:29 | mveron | kf: Ok, I see some IDs... Reading helps. Reaing unreadable parts helps as well :-) |
| 13:29 | kf | mveron: I was trying to find an example for you :) |
| 13:30 | didn't know how to describe it better | |
| 13:30 | eythian: why all the unions? | |
| 13:30 | eythian | kf: to include the deleteditems and deletedbiblios |
| 13:30 | kf | hmm |
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| 13:37 | kf | eythian: don't know why different results :( |
| 13:40 | eythian | hmm, the longer ones appear to include duplicates from somewhere... |
| 13:43 | jwagner | eythian, I think you're confusing it by trying to include biblionumber inside the union. |
| 13:45 | eythian | the catch is, the real query has a ton of fields and gives me even more rows |
| 13:47 | kf | hm |
| 13:47 | have you tried adding some parentheses? | |
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| 13:50 | eythian | kf: no difference |
| 13:50 | kf | yeah |
| 13:50 | I see the same in my database | |
| 13:51 | using a different borrowernumer of course. | |
| 13:51 | hmm. | |
| 13:51 | hm | |
| 13:52 | you could try to compare the results for each union separately | |
| 13:52 | see where the difference comes from | |
| 13:53 | eythian | well. |
| 13:53 | > select itemnumber from items where itemnumber in (select itemnumber from deleteditems); | |
| 13:53 | 30 rows in set (0.95 sec) | |
| 13:53 | that should not be the case. | |
| 13:54 | kf | uhoh |
| 13:54 | probably if you delete the last max itemnumber it gets reassigned? | |
| 13:54 | eythian | and 7 for the deletedbiblio |
| 13:55 | no, the incrementer should always just increment | |
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| 13:55 | jcamins | That doesn't sound good at all. |
| 13:56 | kf | nope |
| 13:56 | thre goes my dream of undoing deletes in the near future... | |
| 14:01 | mtompset | Good day (24 hour period), #koha. MAybe tomorrow I'll get to work on Koha stuff. |
| 14:02 | That's why I don't really like autoincrementing fields myself, kf. | |
| 14:02 | * mtompset | waves bye. |
| 14:02 | kf | eythian: share if you find out what's happening? I am curious what's wrong with that sql |
| 14:03 | eythian | kf: nothing, I think |
| 14:03 | I think it's that the data is weird. | |
| 14:03 | going to do more science on it though | |
| 14:03 | kf | eythian: I have the same here... an dmy data isn't weird :) |
| 14:03 | * kf | believes in her data |
| 14:24 | * eythian | heads to the station to book tickets. |
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| 14:27 | tcohen | hi #koha, is the cover image showing feature conditional to the existence of it? |
| 14:28 | i mena, we have a cover uploaded, will it still search for it in google (for example) | |
| 14:28 | ? | |
| 14:29 | oleonard | Yes |
| 14:29 | If you have multiple image sources enabled Koha will try to show covers from each of them | |
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| 14:34 | tcohen | oleonard, is that a bug or a feature? |
| 14:35 | http://ffyh.biblio.unc.edu.ar/[…]ialogo+filosofico | |
| 14:36 | oleonard | I consider it a bug. Bug 7187 I think matches |
| 14:36 | kf1 | hm |
| 14:36 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7187 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kmkale, NEW , Prioritize cover image sources such as Amazon, Google and add fail over i.e. if first source fails, go to next |
| 14:36 | * jcamins | agrees. |
| 14:36 | jcamins | Definitely bug. |
| 14:36 | tcohen | oleonard, thanks for pointing it |
| 14:36 | * jcamins | is looking forward to kmkale's fixing of said bug. |
| 14:37 | oleonard | jcamins: Do you know if kmkale has code in progress? |
| 14:37 | tcohen | another question, would it be usefull to provide a daily circulation report on the circulation page? |
| 14:37 | jcamins | oleonard: I do not. |
| 14:37 | tcohen | i provided one to my librarians, and they are really missing it |
| 14:37 | oleonard | tcohen: Someone tried something similar in Bug 6828 |
| 14:37 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6828 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, barry, Failed QA , Add Admin Dashboard for staff users. |
| 14:37 | tcohen | so i'd implement it anyway |
| 14:38 | (since we went live with 3.8 stock) | |
| 14:39 | i'll look at those bugs | |
| 14:39 | thanks | |
| 14:44 | how would #koha propose to achieve that priority thing in bug 7187? | |
| 14:44 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7187 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kmkale, NEW , Prioritize cover image sources such as Amazon, Google and add fail over i.e. if first source fails, go to next |
| 14:44 | tcohen | a | separated list of values? |
| 14:44 | jcamins | tcohen: that'd be my preference. |
| 14:44 | tcohen | a new <Service>Weight preference for each cover-provider? |
| 14:45 | jcamins | I'd prefer the single list. |
| 14:45 | tcohen | any other vote? |
| 14:46 | (i find it error-prone, but can't think of better solutions) | |
| 14:48 | two prefs? one to choose a default and another to set it to traverse the activated services or just use the default? | |
| 14:50 | jcamins | That would work too. |
| 14:53 | tcohen | is it ok to change the bug to origin/master ? |
| 14:54 | jcamins | Yes, it should be versioned against master. |
| 14:54 | tcohen | done |
| 14:55 | time to study that code :-D | |
| 14:58 | oleonard | I wonder if Google's TOS forbids caching book cover images |
| 15:06 | tcohen | a web proxy is doing it for sure |
| 15:08 | Prohibitions on Content:... | |
| 15:08 | Scrape, build databases or otherwise create permanent copies of such content, or keep cached copies longer than permitted by the cache header; | |
| 15:09 | (Google TOS) | |
| 15:09 | oleonard | Yeah, I think it's the same for Amazon |
| 15:10 | tcohen | do we have a place on the wiki to paste links to this relevant info? |
| 15:10 | oleonard | Without caching you have to run through each of your cover image sources every time... very time-consuming. |
| 15:10 | tcohen | oleonard, it depends |
| 15:10 | on your infrastructure | |
| 15:11 | if you are on a university and have a transparent proxy... | |
| 15:11 | oleonard | I'm talking about out-of-the-box Koha |
| 15:11 | tcohen | I agree |
| 15:12 | oleonard | We should design it to be as efficient as we can all by itself |
| 15:12 | tcohen | cd op |
| 15:12 | hehe, missed the terminal | |
| 15:15 | gaetan_B | do i need specific permissions to upload an image to the wiki ? |
| 15:16 | oleonard | gaetan_B: I don't think so. Are you having trouble? |
| 15:17 | gaetan_B | i'm trying to upload a cleaned up and vectorized logo on the wiki |
| 15:17 | i probably just can't find the right tool :-/ | |
| 15:18 | oleonard | gaetan_B: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ki/Special:Upload |
| 15:18 | gaetan_B | aaah tanks oleonard :) |
| 15:19 | s/tanks/thanks | |
| 15:19 | oleonard | gaetan_B: I see that link in the left-hand sidebar down towards the bottom |
| 15:19 | gaetan_B | yes, somehow all these links had been pushed all the way to the bottom of the page when i clicked "edit" |
| 15:20 | now i see them :) | |
| 15:22 | tcohen | OPACAmazonCoverImages pref is not used in opac-detail.pl? |
| 15:23 | gaetan_B | aah but you can't upload svg files it seems... too bad |
| 15:24 | oleonard | Weird. Maybe it's a configuration thing which could be changed? |
| 15:26 | "Allow upload of SVG files in the LocalSettings.php file: $wgFileExtensions[] = 'svg';" | |
| 15:26 | http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/[…]_upload_of_images | |
| 15:30 | kf1 | oleonard: I would think so |
| 15:40 | jcamins | gaetan_B: could you please tell joubu to sign onto #koha? |
| 15:40 | I have a question for him about Moo. | |
| 15:40 | gaetan_B | jcamins: sorry he has already left ! |
| 15:40 | jcamins | gaetan_B: ah well. |
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| 15:48 | PRA | How to upgrade koha 2.0.0 on redhat to koha 3.8 |
| 15:50 | oleonard | That's a big question to have answered in under one minute! |
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| 15:51 | drojf | PRA is still here, PR left ;) |
| 15:51 | jcamins | PRA: that's going to be a bit of a challenge. There's a document on the wiki, I think. |
| 15:51 | oleonard | Aside from the platform issues, isn't the process 2 -> 3 -> 3.8 ? |
| 15:52 | jcamins | Yes, I think so. |
| 15:53 | * oleonard | wonders if this is up to date: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Upgrading_2.2 |
| 15:53 | PRA | ok. it's not possible. tell me how to export bibilo from koha 2.0 in *.mrc file? |
| 15:53 | jcamins | No, it is possible. Just very difficult. |
| 15:56 | PRA | Ok. How to export bibilo from KOHA 2.0 in marc forma? |
| 15:56 | * jcamins | doesn't know, sorry. |
| 15:56 | drojf | my guess is that is not possible |
| 15:56 | jcamins | I started using Koha at 3.0.6/3.2. |
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| 16:01 | rangi | why im awake |
| 16:01 | http://www.stuff.co.nz/nationa[…]-North-Is-regions | |
| 16:02 | http://geonet.org.nz/images/vo[…]/wtvz/10/drum.png | |
| 16:03 | PRA | ok. thanks. |
| 16:03 | jcamins | Wow. |
| 16:08 | jwagner | rangi, where is Mt Tongariro -- is that one of the ones near Lake Taupo? |
| 16:08 | rangi | yep |
| 16:08 | the three of them there, normally it is ruapehu erupting | |
| 16:09 | jwagner | I saw them when I was touristing. They said the last eruption was in the 90s sometime? That would have been Ruapehu? |
| 16:09 | rangi | yep |
| 16:09 | gaetan_B | bye #koha, see you tomorrow ! |
| 16:09 | rangi | ngaruhoe smokes a lot, but hasnt erupted in ages |
| 16:09 | tongariro they thought was dormant | |
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| 16:10 | rangi | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8W_sGYAQlc <-- thats ruapehu |
| 16:11 | liw | rangi, you live in a country with exiting geology! |
| 16:11 | rangi | yes, and i crazily have alerts on my phone which wake me up |
| 16:11 | * rangi | switches them off and goes back to sleep |
| 16:12 | jwagner | I'd say "let me sleep until the lava gets near my house" :-) |
| 16:12 | oleonard | Crazy like a fox who doesn't want to get covered in lava |
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| 16:15 | * wizzyrea | waves |
| 16:15 | startles at the early rangi sighting | |
| 16:15 | oleonard | Because volcano wizzyrea! |
| 16:15 | wizzyrea | I know! |
| 16:15 | CRAZY | |
| 16:19 | oleonard | How could one do original cataloging if Koha couldn't connect to MySQL? |
| 16:19 | * oleonard | reading the Koha mailing list |
| 16:19 | jcamins | Yeah, I was wondering about that. |
| 16:20 | I am thinking maybe he was able to do it before. | |
| 16:21 | (but couldn't if he tried now) | |
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| 16:22 | wizzyrea | I'm rather surprised that he can do anything if he can't connect to mysql |
| 16:23 | jcamins | wizzyrea: I think he couldn't do anything now. |
| 16:23 | I will respond once I finish what I'm working on. | |
| 16:23 | wizzyrea | you should let us peons answer that ;) |
| 16:24 | jcamins | Heh. |
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| 16:59 | wizzyrea | oh, guess the latest SIP doesn't work with Overdrive - really need to get that set up to allow the line endings to be defined in the conf :/ |
| 17:00 | jcamins | wizzyrea: yes. That's why it's not going into 3.6.x. |
| 17:02 | wizzyrea | silly. |
| 17:11 | * oleonard | can confirm that, unfortunately |
| 17:18 | wizzyrea | ez fix tho :) |
| 17:22 | Callender | Has anyone seen a problem in 3.08 where when going into the Guided Report Wizard and creating a New Definition, Step 3 is a blank page? I notice that the "Current Terms" section doesn't display either on the dictionary screen |
| 17:22 | jcamins | Callender: the guided report wizard doesn't work at all. |
| 17:22 | Don't use it. | |
| 17:22 | We should probably remove it. | |
| 17:23 | Callender | ok |
| 17:24 | wizzyrea | hm i'm not having a problem with that actually |
| 17:25 | step 3 on both guided reports *and* the dictionary works for me | |
| 17:25 | s/works/work | |
| 17:25 | Callender | I get nothing over here. I wonder if it's something with the DB when it's trying to grab those columns |
| 17:26 | wizzyrea | what exact steps are you following? |
| 17:26 | the first question? | |
| 17:26 | wahanui | "What are you trying to do?" "What is the goal?" or "What problem are you experiencing?" |
| 17:26 | wizzyrea | the second question? |
| 17:26 | wahanui | the second question is "What is the exact error message?" |
| 17:26 | wizzyrea | the third question? |
| 17:26 | wahanui | the third question is "What version of Koha are you using?" http://koha-community.org/faq/[…]ion-koha-running/ |
| 17:26 | wizzyrea | also, which version of 3.8? |
| 17:27 | Callender | This one is, 3.08.00.001 |
| 17:27 | wizzyrea | ah, i'm looking at master |
| 17:28 | is an upgrade possible? | |
| 17:28 | jcamins | Yeah, using 3.8.0 is probably not such a good idea. |
| 17:28 | wizzyrea | heh |
| 17:28 | that might be understatement ;) | |
| 17:28 | jcamins | wizzyrea: given that I feel doubtful about 3.8.3... yeah, it just might be. |
| 17:28 | wizzyrea | 3.8.3 is pretty solid though |
| 17:29 | Callender | Go to reports > Guided report wizard > View Dictionary > and at that point, I don't see the columns that should be there. If I go into create a new definition, getting to step 3.. just a blank screen. |
| 17:29 | wizzyrea | WFM :) |
| 17:29 | Callender | lets hold off then for me, I'll upgrade this system |
| 17:29 | wizzyrea | cool beans :) |
| 17:29 | Callender | and I'll see if that takes care of it |
| 17:29 | wizzyrea | it's really likely it'll be better |
| 17:29 | I kind of remember this bug | |
| 17:29 | sorta | |
| 17:29 | * wizzyrea | has slept since then |
| 17:30 | Callender | thanks guys.. and gals! :) |
| 17:30 | * wizzyrea | salutes Callender "anytime!" |
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| 18:07 | * tcohen | is wondering how to acknowledge that his work on Koha is sponsored by UNC |
| 18:07 | jcamins | Sponsored-by: University N... Cordoba. :) |
| 18:07 | I sent an e-mail to koha-devel about this. | |
| 18:08 | tcohen | in the patch comment? |
| 18:08 | cait | jcamins: maybe put it in the coding guidelines as an option? |
| 18:08 | jcamins | cait: I think I did. |
| 18:08 | tcohen: yup. | |
| 18:08 | I'll check. | |
| 18:09 | tcohen | found it |
| 18:10 | jcamins | I guess it's not in the coding guidelines. Adding now. |
| 18:10 | tcohen | some time in the future, i'd need my bosses to see it as my contract says any work I do belongs to the University |
| 18:11 | 'belongs' in the sense of meaning the university has commited some work to an open source project | |
| 18:12 | not in the sense of IP and that stuff | |
| 18:13 | is it clear what I mean jcamins? | |
| 18:13 | jcamins | tcohen: yeah, that's what Sponsored-by is for. |
| 18:14 | tcohen | thanks! |
| 18:14 | jcamins | I was just editing the coding guidelines. |
| 18:14 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]od_commit_message | |
| 18:16 | tcohen | great jcamins |
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| 18:16 | tcohen | the missing bit would be setting the commit message editor to insert that automagically |
| 18:17 | jcamins | Yeah, if you only have the one client you could certainly do that. |
| 18:17 | Though- it would be a problem for signing off. | |
| 18:18 | tcohen | u r right |
| 18:18 | jcamins | git config --global commit.template $HOME/.gitmessage.txt |
| 18:18 | git++ # git is totally awesome | |
| 18:18 | tcohen: http://git-scm.com/book/ch7-1.html | |
| 18:20 | * oleonard | uses that trick to preface each commit with "And so it came to pass..." |
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| 18:21 | wizzyrea | LOL |
| 18:21 | our commit messages could be so much more epic | |
| 18:21 | AND SO IT CAME TO PASS THAT "bug 1398 - blah blah blah EPIC WIN" | |
| 18:21 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1398 normal, P3, ---, chris, RESOLVED INVALID, Branch management not working with returns |
| 18:21 | jcamins | lol |
| 18:28 | tcohen | is it ok to require LIB ; import LIB |
| 18:28 | or is it better to use LIB ? | |
| 18:29 | jcamins | use LIB is generally better, I think. |
| 18:30 | tcohen | i'm revisiting opac-detail.pl |
| 18:30 | and found both used | |
| 18:30 | jcamins | Hehe. I'm not surprised. |
| 18:30 | We prefer use. | |
| 18:30 | Usually. | |
| 18:30 | tcohen | i think amazon and syndetics stuff should be loaded the same way bakertaylor stuff is |
| 18:30 | jcamins | Agreed. |
| 18:30 | tcohen | which checks for the syspref prior to loading the libs |
| 18:31 | but... bakertaylor uses that require ; import | |
| 18:31 | schema | |
| 18:32 | * jcamins | doesn't really know much about it. If your patch works, though, I'll sign off. :) |
| 18:32 | jcamins | The cover code, though, is all javascript. |
| 18:32 | tcohen | haha |
| 18:32 | jcamins | So far as I know. |
| 18:32 | tcohen | yes |
| 18:32 | but... needs those variables set from the .pl | |
| 18:33 | i'll continue to study that code, and guess i'll ask oleonard for some help | |
| 18:33 | :-D | |
| 18:46 | wizzyrea | @marc 500 |
| 18:46 | huginn | wizzyrea: General information for which a specialized 5XX note field has not been defined. (Repeatable) [a,3,5,6,8] |
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| 19:12 | mbalmer | @marc balmer |
| 19:12 | huginn | mbalmer: unknown tag balmer |
| 19:12 | mbalmer | heh ;) |
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| 19:20 | mveron | @wunder Basel |
| 19:20 | huginn | mveron: The current temperature in Basel, Switzerland is 17.0°C (9:00 PM CEST on August 06, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady). |
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| 19:21 | wizzyrea | @wunder 66049 |
| 19:21 | huginn | wizzyrea: The current temperature in Jeff's Weather Lab, Lawrence, Kansas is 38.5°C (2:21 PM CDT on August 06, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 10%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Pressure: 30.05 in 1018 hPa (Falling). |
| 19:22 | wizzyrea | ! seriously? yesterday it was in the 80's |
| 19:22 | well, 25C ish | |
| 19:23 | oleonard | @wunder 45701 |
| 19:23 | huginn | oleonard: The current temperature in OHDOT 31-Athens County Garage, Athens, Ohio is 30.6°C (2:50 PM EDT on August 06, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 35%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 30.08 in 1018 hPa (Falling). |
| 19:26 | mbalmer | someone should change the topic to "Koha - The Weather Channel" |
| 19:26 | nengard | is anyone around (oleonard maybe) who can explain what doc changes I need to make per bug 8392 |
| 19:26 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8392 minor, P5 - low, ---, ruth, Pushed to Stable , Memberentry is not enforcing birthdate restrictions |
| 19:26 | nengard | Do I need to say that the birthday limit is only checked if that field is mandatory? |
| 19:27 | oleonard | Yes |
| 19:27 | nengard | or recommend that the birthday be made required if you want Koha to enforce the age limit |
| 19:27 | oops .. yes which? | |
| 19:27 | oleonard | It will only check the birthdate limit if the field is mandatory |
| 19:27 | nengard | got it |
| 19:27 | thanks! | |
| 19:27 | cait | oleonard: I don't like that much :( |
| 19:28 | but I know it was not you :) | |
| 19:28 | oleonard | cait: How would it handle empty birthdates if the field was not mandatory? |
| 19:29 | cait | not check |
| 19:29 | so you coul give the birthdate for not adult patrons | |
| 19:29 | but leave it empty for adult patrons | |
| 19:30 | oleonard | You'd have to create a new preference to define which categories of patrons should require age enforcement |
| 19:30 | nengard | i'm with cait |
| 19:30 | but understand why it was done this way | |
| 19:30 | and now the manual reflects that :) | |
| 19:30 | cait | oleonard: the problem is that I was told dates of birth are sensitive data - most of our libraries don't store it at all |
| 19:31 | nengard | so you could just not store it and not use the upper or minimum age limites |
| 19:31 | cait | yes |
| 19:31 | but it would be nice to use it when needed :) | |
| 19:32 | but it's really not a big deal, only a bit grumpy tonight | |
| 19:32 | :) | |
| 19:33 | jcamins | cait++ # for fixing my unit test |
| 19:33 | cait | lol - I only asked some stupid questions comparing to pieces of code :) |
| 19:41 | rangi | Morning again |
| 19:41 | nengard | good afternoon :) |
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| 19:42 | jcamins | You missed me flipping out about a unit test. |
| 19:42 | rangi | Heh darn shall I read the logs? |
| 19:42 | nengard | oh - jcamins - the training I just did was with an authorities fanatic she wanted so very many many more changes to authorities |
| 19:42 | jcamins | No, mostly cait had to suffer. |
| 19:43 | nengard | and I kept saying well we have an expert working on improving things |
| 19:43 | :) | |
| 19:43 | jcamins | nengard: I'm not surprised. If you have a list I'd love to see it. |
| 19:43 | nengard | i did report a bunch to calm her down |
| 19:43 | mainly the lack of browse was a big deal | |
| 19:43 | jcamins | Ah, yeah, true browse is very problematic. |
| 19:43 | nengard | the fact that you can't add an authority right from cataloging - you have to go out to authorities to create (unless you want Koha to create it for you based on what you type) |
| 19:44 | jcamins | I didn't see that bug. |
| 19:44 | It's a duplicate. | |
| 19:44 | I already implemented that. :P | |
| 19:44 | nengard | then the authority searching - the fact that united states -- encycopedia was getting too broad of results for her |
| 19:44 | which did you do? the add authority in cataloging? | |
| 19:44 | bug #? | |
| 19:44 | wahanui | i think bug # is there |
| 19:45 | jcamins | Bug 8208. |
| 19:45 | wahanui | bug 8208 is, like, almost done |
| 19:45 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8208 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Add "create authority" button to auth_finder plugin |
| 19:45 | nengard | hehe |
| 19:45 | awesome! | |
| 19:45 | I'll email the director over there with that one | |
| 19:45 | of course they're not on master yet, but they'll be happy to see it | |
| 19:46 | jcamins | As for the search, that'll be helped by bug 8206. |
| 19:46 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8206 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Signed Off , Add additional search options to authority browser in OPAC |
| 19:46 | jcamins | Which actually impacts the staff client, too. |
| 19:46 | It adds consistent options, including access to heading-match, which is what she wants. | |
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| 19:49 | nengard | email sent |
| 19:49 | I told them that you were working hard and that new stuff was coming all of the time | |
| 19:50 | jcamins | They should take a look at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_Improvements_RFC |
| 19:50 | nengard | I also got another library complaining about Koha's cataloging interface - shocker! |
| 19:50 | jcamins | nengard: no! |
| 19:50 | rangi | Bug 7417 is a good one too |
| 19:50 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7417 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Signed Off , Include alternate forms from authorities in bibliographic searches |
| 19:50 | rangi | I get that all the time |
| 19:51 | What's this MARC crap? | |
| 19:51 | jcamins | rangi: that's the one with the unit tests that were receiving many creative expletives. |
| 19:51 | I switched to DBD::Mock. | |
| 19:51 | And DBD::Mock said "oh yeah? Just you try!" | |
| 19:51 | nengard | rangi i think we found that one while i was there |
| 19:51 | jcamins | It was an epic battle. |
| 19:52 | I was losing, until cait told me to add a history check. | |
| 19:52 | rangi | Hehe |
| 19:52 | Oh my blog was good for something! | |
| 19:52 | jcamins | At which point I discovered that the call to C4::Context->preference('marcflavour') was retrieving marcxml. |
| 19:53 | Yeah, but I liked the old layout a lot better. | |
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| 19:54 | rangi | I might switch back |
| 19:54 | jcamins | Good. |
| 19:54 | You should. | |
| 19:55 | rangi | Hehe |
| 19:55 | I like the photo of kahu though | |
| 19:57 | jcamins | Take out the Twitter updates a couple of the other sidebars? |
| 19:57 | cait | I liked the really old one best |
| 19:58 | but the last one is way better than what you have now :) | |
| 19:58 | * cait | hides |
| 19:58 | rangi | Hehe |
| 19:58 | I'm not fragile, I can change it | |
| 19:59 | oleonard | Can/does Koha log what Koha user performs the transaction when checking something out? |
| 19:59 | rangi | I'll switch when I get to work |
| 19:59 | jcamins | oleonard: I think so. Isn't that circ log? |
| 19:59 | rangi | Hmm I thought so |
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| 20:02 | oleonard | I have IssueLog turned on, but when I check the modification log of a book which is checked out, I get nothing |
| 20:02 | jcamins | Ummm... |
| 20:03 | rangi | Hmm not modification log, it should be circ log |
| 20:03 | jcamins | was there a bug about this recently? |
| 20:03 | I have a vague recollection. | |
| 20:03 | rangi | Changing numbers ... Not sure it was pushed tho |
| 20:04 | cait | I know it does log it - ony not sure how to access from within koha |
| 20:04 | I used it to check which checkouts were done using the self check :) | |
| 20:04 | rangi | In the log viewer I think if you just view the circ log? |
| 20:05 | The bug is it stores biblionumber not itemnumber | |
| 20:05 | Iirc | |
| 20:06 | oleonard | ...so it can't show the checkout history because biblionumber doesn't get you anything |
| 20:06 | rangi | Yep |
| 20:06 | But u can find it in the log | |
| 20:07 | You might want to try the patch | |
| 20:07 | oleonard | Do you know the bug? |
| 20:07 | wahanui | it has been said that the bug is that if you scan the barcode on the circ page you aren't allowed to renew it that way |
| 20:07 | * rangi | always looks for a signoff angle |
| 20:08 | rangi | Not off the top of my head |
| 20:08 | jcamins | Bug 7241. |
| 20:08 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7241 minor, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, adrien.saurat, Needs Signoff , circulation action logs record biblionumber instead of item number |
| 20:08 | jcamins | Found it. :) |
| 20:08 | cait | ah |
| 20:08 | you were faster :( | |
| 20:09 | * oleonard | had looked at that bug earlier, hoped fredericd was going to sign off since he seemed anxious for it to be pushed |
| 20:11 | nengard left #koha | |
| 20:11 | * oleonard | zips into his testing jacket |
| 20:11 | jcamins | Ugh. |
| 20:12 | My tests no longer cover 100% of the files. | |
| 20:12 | cait | :) |
| 20:12 | jcamins | Why is that? |
| 20:12 | rangi | I think he is on vacation too |
| 20:12 | cait | oleonard: does it have built in airbags? |
| 20:12 | jcamins | Test coverage was at 100%. |
| 20:12 | Then I fiddled with things. | |
| 20:12 | cait | jcamins: scandalous - go and write more tests! |
| 20:12 | rangi | Heh |
| 20:13 | @wunder nzwn | |
| 20:13 | huginn | rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 11.0°C (8:00 AM NZST on August 07, 2012). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Rising). |
| 20:13 | rangi | My stop brb |
| 20:14 | jcamins | Oh, I see. |
| 20:14 | I inadvertantly mocked one of the subroutines. | |
| 20:15 | wizzyrea | you should apologize |
| 20:15 | jcamins | Hehe. |
| 20:15 | wizzyrea | you are going to hurt its feelings |
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| 20:20 | * oleonard | doesn't see anything new in action_logs |
| 20:20 | rangi | back |
| 20:21 | jcamins | Actually, no, I think the problem is that I misunderstood how Devel::Cover works. |
| 20:22 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
| 20:22 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 10.0°C (9:50 PM CEST on August 06, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Steady). |
| 20:23 | magnuse | g'night #koha ;-) |
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| 20:23 | jcamins | That was part of the problem. |
| 20:23 | oleonard | Oh wait yes I do. I guess it is working |
| 20:23 | rangi | night magnuse |
| 20:24 | ExtraordinaryBen | Hello, I'm helping my Library get Koha setup as their new ILS. I've got it up and running, but it doesn't seem to be remembering anything. (Library is always not set, etc.) Any help would be appreciated. ;) |
| 20:25 | jcamins | ExtraordinaryBen: you should never log in as the database administrative user. |
| 20:25 | cait | ExtraordinaryBen: you need to create real staff accounts - don't work with the root user |
| 20:25 | to do that, create a branch, a patron category with category staff and add a new patron - and then give it permissions from more in the toolbar | |
| 20:25 | ExtraordinaryBen | Okay, awesome. many thanks. (Ugh, knew it must have been something simple.) |
| 20:26 | rangi | http://www.stuff.co.nz/nationa[…]in-over-100-years <-- yuck |
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| 20:27 | cait | ExtraordinaryBen: :) |
| 20:27 | wizzyrea | ewww |
| 20:27 | poor horses | |
| 20:27 | rangi | heh |
| 20:27 | A few locals did drive to the Hirangi Marae in Turangi but most just stood and watched the spectacular show. | |
| 20:27 | "It's a volcano. If it goes. It will go. We'll all be vapourised. Ruapehu and Ngauruhoe have erupted regularly over the years. Now it is Tongariro's turn." | |
| 20:41 | kathryn | g'morning |
| 20:41 | jcamins | http://screencast.com/t/Dz9fFKCfHIKa <-- this is what the coverage report should look like. |
| 20:42 | (no unit tests were run for code in C4::) | |
| 20:42 | Good morning, kathryn. | |
| 20:42 | kathryn | :) |
| 20:42 | rangi | jcamins: nice ;) |
| 20:43 | cait | hi kathryn :) |
| 20:43 | kathryn | hi cait :D |
| 20:43 | cait | :) |
| 20:51 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #125 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 20:53 | jcamins | Hey. |
| 20:53 | It seems to me that Net::ZOOM should have some unit tests. | |
| 20:53 | * jcamins | goes looking for them. |
| 20:53 | jcamins | Or ZOOM. |
| 20:53 | Or whatever we use. | |
| 20:55 | Well... | |
| 20:55 | huh. | |
| 20:56 | Was anyone else expecting the ZOOM test suite to pass? | |
| 20:56 | rangi | it fails on the connection to a test server, the test server is dead |
| 20:56 | well thats what fialed for me last time | |
| 20:56 | jcamins | It's failing on scan. |
| 20:57 | Huh. | |
| 21:06 | gmcharlt | rangi: would I be correct in making a wild guess that 8181 is not a candidate for backporting to 3.8.x? |
| 21:06 | rangi | lemme look |
| 21:06 | jcamins | bug 8181 |
| 21:06 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8181 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Replace DynArch calendar widget with jQueryUI version |
| 21:06 | cait | night all |
| 21:07 | rangi | im currently picking stuff out of the Passed QA queue, that are bug fixes, for 3.8.x (since nothing is going into master for 3 weeks) |
| 21:07 | gmcharlt | asking mostly because one of its side-effects is fixing some breakage introduced by the patch for 2780 |
| 21:07 | cait | bug 2780 |
| 21:07 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2780 minor, P3, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Capitalize strings consistently |
| 21:08 | rangi | probably not, unless i got another sign off |
| 21:08 | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]g.cgi?id=8181#c12 | |
| 21:08 | huginn | 04Bug 8181: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Replace DynArch calendar widget with jQueryUI version |
| 21:08 | rangi | doesnt fill me full of confidence |
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| 21:09 | gmcharlt | rangi: yeah, that's what I thought |
| 21:13 | jcamins | Is there any way in Perl to create an object that will automagically create any accessors it is called with, and return the same thing? |
| 21:13 | (no matter what the accessor) | |
| 21:14 | rangi | im sure there is, but my brain is not telling me how |
| 21:15 | jcamins | Yeah, my brain decided that was too much thinking, so we moved on to plan b. |
| 21:18 | rangi | jcamins: i cant get the patch for bug 8581 to apply on master |
| 21:18 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8581 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Authority display doesn't like GND records |
| 21:18 | rangi | atal: sha1 information is lacking or useless (koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/includes/authorities-search-results.inc). |
| 21:18 | Repository lacks necessary blobs to fall back on 3-way merge. | |
| 21:18 | Cannot fall back to three-way merge | |
| 21:19 | jcamins | rangi: did you apply bug 3462 first? |
| 21:19 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3462 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Signed Off , Link see alsos in authorities |
| 21:19 | rangi | ahh probably not |
| 21:20 | * rangi | does |
| 21:21 | rangi | ah yep that was it |
| 21:22 | ohh easy peasy change | |
| 21:23 | jcamins | Yeah. There's more needed, but that was the first thing I noticed. |
| 21:31 | rangi | signed off |
| 21:33 | jcamins | Okay... |
| 21:33 | Putting multiple packages in one file screws up Test::MockModule. | |
| 21:33 | * jcamins | wasn't expecting that. |
| 21:34 | rangi | why would we do that? |
| 21:34 | running out of filehandles? :) | |
| 21:36 | jcamins | We wouldn't. |
| 21:36 | IndexData would. | |
| 21:36 | rangi | ahhh |
| 21:36 | maybe filehandles cost more in denmark | |
| 21:37 | mgeist | Have a good evening all |
| 21:37 | rangi | cya mgeist |
| 21:38 | jcamins | Okay, got around that issue. |
| 21:39 | ... for one brief, shining moment. | |
| 21:40 | Wait. | |
| 21:40 | I can do better than this. | |
| 21:42 | How do you do a switch statement in Perl? | |
| 21:42 | The non-deprecated, non-experimental way. | |
| 21:42 | rangi | i dont |
| 21:42 | jcamins | Okay. |
| 21:43 | * jcamins | continues writing his ifelse statement. |
| 21:43 | rangi | but i think its given/when |
| 21:43 | which was added in 5.10 | |
| 21:43 | jcamins | No, that's experimental. There's another syntax which is allowed. |
| 21:43 | rangi | for |
| 21:43 | http://perldoc.perl.org/perlsy[…]Switch-Statements | |
| 21:44 | The foreach is the non-experimental way to set a topicalizer. I | |
| 21:44 | jcamins | Thanks. |
| 21:46 | Bwahahaha!!!! | |
| 21:46 | * jcamins | figures out how to trick ZOOM into thinking it has Zebra. |
| 21:46 | rangi | :) |
| 21:47 | jcamins | Okay... this leaves one slight problem. How do I get the kohaclone directory from a test. |
| 21:47 | rangi | hmm? |
| 21:48 | config? | |
| 21:48 | wahanui | well, config is still wrong. |
| 21:49 | jcamins | But that's presupposing that I have a koha-conf.xml. |
| 21:54 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.8.x build #125: SUCCESS in 1 hr 2 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.8.x/125/ |
| 21:54 | robin: Bug 8391: prevent error when viewing circ history with bad dates | |
| 21:54 | * jcamins | learns about XS. |
| 21:54 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8391 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Passed QA , Cannot view reading record through staff client |
| 21:54 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #126 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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| 22:50 | martian523 | i have a question about fines, it seems like it's not working |
| 22:50 | a book is overdue, but fine is not showing up | |
| 22:51 | rangi | what version of koha, and have you set up your rules? and have the cron job running, and have the fines mode set to calculate and charge? |
| 22:51 | martian523 | version 3.8.1 |
| 22:51 | set up my rules, | |
| 22:51 | not sure about cron job | |
| 22:52 | btw, i'm not an IT person | |
| 22:52 | rangi | ah, how did you install? |
| 22:52 | or how did your it person install, using the debian packages? or from the tarball? | |
| 22:52 | martian523 | yeah |
| 22:52 | debian | |
| 22:53 | rangi | from http://debian.koha-community.org/ ? |
| 22:53 | martian523 | maybe |
| 22:53 | rangi | you will need to know for sure, either way, your IT person needs to check the cron job for the fines is running |
| 22:53 | martian523 | i just found out about the cron job for email notices since i haven't received any automatic email notices |
| 22:53 | rangi | and you need to check in systempreferences |
| 22:53 | to see what finesmode is set to | |
| 22:54 | martian523 | we're still in the testing process |
| 22:54 | rangi | ah well they wont be charging unless you set them to :) |
| 22:55 | also, if you are still in testing, definitely upgrade to 3.8.3 | |
| 22:55 | lots and lots of bugs fixed between 3.8.1 and 3.8.3 | |
| 22:56 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.8.x build #126: SUCCESS in 1 hr 1 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.8.x/126/ |
| 22:56 | tomascohen: Bug 8251 - Follow up, use 'day' instead of 'days' for Datetime::truncate | |
| 22:56 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8251 critical, P1 - high, ---, koha, Pushed to Master , Patrons are systematically debarred at checkin |
| 22:59 | martian523 | thanks |
| 23:00 | rangi | if it was installed using debian.koha-community.org it should be a simple apt-get upgrade |
| 23:01 | martian523 | ok, i'll tell IT to look into that |
| 23:02 | rangi | that was the most succesful mibbit interaction ever |
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| 23:15 | rangi | jcamins: do you have a 3.6.7 install up and running anywhere? |
| 23:17 | jcamins | Depends what you want me to check. ;) |
| 23:18 | rangi | just try editing a notice |
| 23:19 | its not saving for me, and im pretty sure im running a stock 3.6.7 .. so wanted a second confirmation | |
| 23:20 | jcamins | Hm. |
| 23:20 | It worked for me. | |
| 23:20 | rangi | dangit |
| 23:20 | jcamins | tools/letter.pl? |
| 23:20 | rangi | :) |
| 23:20 | yeah | |
| 23:20 | well thats good in a way :) | |
| 23:22 | thanks for checking | |
| 23:23 | jcamins | You're welcome. |
| 23:25 | rangi | out of date en-nz templates, that was the problem |
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| 23:54 | Judit | good morning |
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