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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 00:01 | mtj | tomascohen: dump out the table structures, and run diffs on them |
| 00:35 | Judit joined #koha | |
| 00:35 | Judit | hi |
| 00:58 | mtj | hi Judit |
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| 02:29 | ibeardslee | rangi: http://zareason.co.nz |
| 02:30 | rangi | yay! |
| 04:16 | Oak joined #koha | |
| 04:16 | Oak | Ahoy me hearties |
| 04:17 | hello rangi :) | |
| 04:20 | Judit | hi oak |
| 04:20 | Oak | hello Judit \o/ |
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| 04:59 | cait joined #koha | |
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| 05:36 | rangi | hi cait and druthb |
| 05:36 | cait | hi rangi :) |
| 05:36 | druthb | Hi rangi :) |
| 05:36 | cait | and go to sleep druthb! |
| 05:37 | druthb | :P |
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| 06:03 | Rakesh | hi |
| 06:04 | i installed koha | |
| 06:04 | alex_a1 | bonjour #koha |
| 06:04 | Rakesh | it gives me a error about mysql |
| 06:05 | i e | |
| 06:05 | Access denied for user 'koha'@'localhost' (using password: NO) at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Context.pm line 758. | |
| 06:05 | plz help | |
| 06:07 | alex_a1 can u help me | |
| 06:10 | alex_a1 | Rakesh: can you connect to your database with a mysql client |
| 06:10 | ? | |
| 06:11 | Rakesh | no |
| 06:11 | it just gives this error only | |
| 06:12 | yesterday someone told me that he mysql passworf and the koha password cannot be differnt | |
| 06:12 | but still it givees this error | |
| 06:13 | alex_a1 | Rakesh: yes |
| 06:13 | Rakesh | but it gives the error |
| 06:13 | alex_a1 | Rakesh: can you open /etc/koha-conf.xml |
| 06:14 | Rakesh | kk |
| 06:14 | alex_a1 | and look for <config> -> <user> and <config> -> <pass> |
| 06:16 | Rakesh | thanks bro it wrks |
| 06:16 | :) | |
| 06:16 | alex_a1 | :) |
| 06:17 | Rakesh | bii' |
| 06:17 | alex_a1 | \o |
| 06:17 | rangi | heh |
| 06:17 | alex_a1++ | |
| 06:17 | you have more patience than me | |
| 06:17 | alex_a | hehe |
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| 06:24 | marcelr | hi #koha |
| 06:24 | alex_a | hi marcelr |
| 06:25 | cait | alex_a++ :) |
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| 06:27 | rangi | hi marcelr |
| 06:27 | cait | hi marcelr |
| 06:28 | marcelr | hi alex_a, cait and rangi |
| 06:28 | cait | marcelr: might turn out I was wrong about the ip thing - talking to our expert today |
| 06:28 | alex_a | i don't know if it deserves a ++ |
| 06:28 | :) | |
| 06:28 | marcelr | cait: what did he say? |
| 06:28 | cait | only got a short mail, hope to catch him today |
| 06:28 | was travellig | |
| 06:28 | marcelr | ok |
| 06:29 | sophie_m left #koha | |
| 06:29 | rangi | the thing still stands, that with a syspref it can work for any jurisdiction |
| 06:29 | so even if its fine for germany, its immaterial imho :) | |
| 06:29 | marcelr | but is it really needed? |
| 06:29 | we did not have it | |
| 06:30 | rangi | who knows, but if you let people turn it on, they can if they want |
| 06:30 | :) | |
| 06:32 | cait | marcelr: I had forwarded him the queston, but paul was faster with his mail on the mailing list |
| 06:32 | hopefully I will find out for sure what needs to be done | |
| 06:32 | or not | |
| 06:33 | and whatever we do should work for lists the same way then | |
| 06:33 | rangi | i just read everyones mail |
| 06:33 | and forward it all to the cia | |
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| 06:35 | rangi | hi reiveune |
| 06:35 | reiveune | hello rangi, everybody |
| 06:36 | marcelr | rangi: so you did it :-) |
| 06:38 | cait | we should just avoid all the emailing... can't we find a way to put it in people's dreams or heads directly? |
| 06:38 | marcelr | koha 11.2 |
| 06:38 | :-) | |
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| 06:41 | rangi | heh |
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| 06:42 | * marcelr | i expected to see some response on dev list about the qa thing.. |
| 06:43 | rangi | only you and me eh? |
| 06:43 | marcelr | some-> some more |
| 06:43 | rangi | yeah |
| 06:43 | cait | I haven't read them yet |
| 06:43 | marcelr | ok you were mentioned even! |
| 06:43 | cait | yeah rangi showed me |
| 06:43 | marcelr | paul wants you in qa |
| 06:44 | rangi | cait would be good at that, but then we are done one of our most prolific sign off people |
| 06:44 | marcelr | cait++ |
| 06:44 | cait | I considered it last round, but really bug wrangling is enough for me right now |
| 06:44 | rangi | done=down |
| 06:44 | marcelr | true |
| 06:44 | cait | and there is so much to do :( |
| 06:44 | trying to make more time, but at the moment things are crazy | |
| 06:44 | marcelr | need signoff is >100 |
| 06:45 | almost always | |
| 06:45 | cait | yeah |
| 06:45 | we had it down to pretty good numbers after the hackfest in marseille I think, never again since | |
| 06:45 | marcelr | signed off=40; in 2011 it has been 100 |
| 06:45 | rangi | yep QA is working well |
| 06:45 | what we need is more people signing off | |
| 06:46 | ie, qa isnt the bottleneck | |
| 06:46 | marcelr | yeah |
| 06:46 | rangi | not until we get more ppl signing off anyway |
| 06:47 | cait | koha is moving on fast |
| 06:48 | I am not so worried about the code sometimes | |
| 06:48 | but about featues | |
| 06:48 | features need some second perspective too | |
| 06:48 | marcelr | Feature Manager ! |
| 06:48 | cait | I mean I try reading the code and making suggestions as good as I can |
| 06:48 | trying to catch what could be a problem | |
| 06:49 | but I think some of the features added recently I don't have a use case for | |
| 06:49 | and that shoudl also be done | |
| 06:49 | asking questions about the why and how to use things | |
| 06:49 | and now I have to hurry and get myself to work :) bbl! | |
| 06:49 | marcelr | some reports miss background and we should ask for it |
| 06:49 | cait | exactly |
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| 06:49 | rangi | yeah |
| 06:50 | julian_m | hello |
| 06:50 | cait | hi julian_m |
| 06:50 | marcelr | hi julian_m |
| 06:50 | * cait | runs out |
| 06:50 | cait left #koha | |
| 06:50 | rangi | cait: your ideas are intriguing to me, and i wish to subscribe to your newsletter |
| 06:50 | darn missed her | |
| 06:51 | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXesMkAYh44 | |
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| 06:51 | julian_m | hi marcelr |
| 06:51 | rangi | hi julian_m and francharb |
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| 06:52 | Rakesh | hi |
| 06:53 | julian_m | hi rangi |
| 06:53 | Rakesh | hi to all |
| 06:53 | i installed koha on my server | |
| 06:53 | and it worked | |
| 06:53 | but now i want to install multiple instances of koha' | |
| 06:54 | http://koha.1045719.n5.nabble.[…]ER-td3304116.html i was reading this | |
| 06:54 | and in the second reply it says to copy the koha and apache koha file | |
| 06:54 | but i dont know where to copy it | |
| 06:55 | plz help it says | |
| 06:56 | Unless you have reason to run them on separate IP addresses, this sounds like serious overkill. You can just create a new DB from within mysql to hold the data of the second one, copy the apache config from the running one, change the location of the koha_conf.xml to one that specifies the different DB and zebra information, change the server names that i | |
| 06:56 | i dont know where to copy the files | |
| 06:56 | francharb | hi rangi |
| 06:56 | hi all | |
| 06:56 | Rakesh | hey rangi can u help me |
| 06:57 | matts | hi #koha ! |
| 06:58 | Rakesh | hi matts and francharb |
| 06:58 | please help | |
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| 07:01 | Rakesh | is there no one |
| 07:01 | who can give me the guide | |
| 07:01 | rangi | id learn about how to run koha first, and how to do linux sysadmin |
| 07:01 | before i tried to run multiple instances | |
| 07:02 | drojf | good monring #koha |
| 07:02 | morning even | |
| 07:02 | Rakesh | i read the kiha wiki alsso |
| 07:02 | but it was confusing | |
| 07:02 | i found the post easy | |
| 07:02 | so i read it | |
| 07:03 | but i dont know where to copy the diles | |
| 07:03 | *files | |
| 07:03 | drojf | that might be why it sounds easy, because it skips the complicated parts |
| 07:03 | Rakesh | kk |
| 07:03 | so which guide should i follow | |
| 07:03 | drojf | have you actually run koha and used it? |
| 07:03 | Rakesh | yes |
| 07:04 | rangi | yep it assumes you understand how do administer a linux server |
| 07:04 | Rakesh | yes a little |
| 07:04 | but i want such a system that | |
| 07:04 | it should run koha on different databases | |
| 07:05 | rangi | if you want to run multiple instances installing with the debian packages |
| 07:05 | Rakesh | kk |
| 07:05 | rangi | like jcamins and eythian said |
| 07:05 | makes it easy | |
| 07:05 | Rakesh | yes |
| 07:05 | rangi | you just koha-create instancename |
| 07:05 | Rakesh | in the bash? |
| 07:05 | rangi | why do you want multiple instances? |
| 07:07 | Rakesh | actually i have a server and i want to use it for bussiness purpose |
| 07:07 | so i want multiple instances | |
| 07:07 | so sholud it try this command in the bash | |
| 07:07 | drojf | for business purposes means you want to sell your koha services to people? |
| 07:08 | Rakesh | no no |
| 07:08 | i am actually a web designer ' | |
| 07:08 | and i want it | |
| 07:08 | plz tell which guide should i follow | |
| 07:08 | plz tell which guide should i follow? | |
| 07:09 | the koha wiki 1 | |
| 07:09 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Instances_of_Koha this is the page | |
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| 07:11 | gaetan_B | hello #koha ! |
| 07:11 | rangi | hi gaetan_B |
| 07:11 | drojf | hi gaetan_B |
| 07:11 | * drojf | is off to the shower |
| 07:11 | gaetan_B | :) |
| 07:12 | rangi | i was gonna point rakesh at http://tldp.org/LDP/sag/html/index.html (which liw might recognise) |
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| 07:14 | rangi | hi asaurat |
| 07:14 | liw | oh that old thing |
| 07:14 | asaurat | hi ! |
| 07:14 | rangi | hehe |
| 07:15 | was the best i could find on short notice :) | |
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| 07:27 | Oak joined #koha | |
| 07:27 | * Oak | waves |
| 07:27 | paul_p | good morning #koha |
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| 07:31 | kf | morning #koha |
| 07:31 | ... and back | |
| 07:36 | marcelr | hi paul_p |
| 07:36 | paul_p | hi marcelr & kf & others |
| 07:37 | marcelr | paul_p: no more responses on your qa mail unfortunately.. |
| 07:38 | paul_p | marcelr mason answered privately (he was on a non-koha project for 3 weeks, and should be able to do some QA next week) |
| 07:38 | marcelr | ok |
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| 07:41 | rangi | back |
| 07:54 | kf | I still have to read the mails |
| 08:03 | rangi | eek *head explode* |
| 08:03 | kf | rangi? |
| 08:03 | wahanui | I LIKE ALMONDS! HAVE SOME NUTS! |
| 08:04 | rangi | mailing list |
| 08:04 | wahanui | mailing list is, like, at http://koha-community.org/supp[…]ha-mailing-lists/ |
| 08:05 | kf | now I am not sure I want to look there |
| 08:05 | lol | |
| 08:05 | ok | |
| 08:06 | marcelr | :-) |
| 08:06 | drojf | we should really have something to make installation easier. like some kind of pack where all you need just gets installed. that would help people a lot |
| 08:06 | good morning kf and marcelr | |
| 08:07 | kf | drojf: packages? |
| 08:07 | wahanui | i think packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian |
| 08:07 | marcelr | hi drojf |
| 08:07 | drojf | kf: yeah we could call it that maybe :D |
| 08:07 | kf | I think it's already pretty easy |
| 08:07 | the problem is people with no command line skills | |
| 08:07 | at all | |
| 08:07 | drojf | heh |
| 08:07 | i was joking | |
| 08:07 | of course it's there, but there are a lot of people lately that refuse to use it | |
| 08:08 | because in "that blog post i found" from 2008 or 2006 they are not mentioned | |
| 08:09 | rangi | this is quite cool |
| 08:09 | http://koha.ignouonline.ac.in/ | |
| 08:09 | it even has a blink!! | |
| 08:10 | drojf | heh |
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| 08:29 | rangi | hi jransom |
| 08:29 | kf | hi jransom |
| 08:31 | jransom | hiya |
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| 08:31 | jransom | oh look at that - i got my irc client on my phne woring ) |
| 08:32 | Rangi: enjoying your holiday | |
| 08:33 | rangi | for the most part yup |
| 08:34 | jransom | shame about the weather |
| 08:35 | so i have been thinking about this issues count problem in 3.6 | |
| 08:35 | and wondering how to tackle this in a methodical way and just check off each and every source of issues | |
| 08:35 | rangi | its not a problem as long as you use the statistics table |
| 08:35 | and join to items and deleteditems | |
| 08:36 | jransom | the problem Paul and I both have is that we have huge drops in issue counts after upgrading from 3.2 to 3.6 |
| 08:36 | and we have to answer for this every month | |
| 08:36 | rangi | paul uses the circulation wizard |
| 08:36 | that doesnt count correctly post 3.2.x | |
| 08:37 | the fix is to use a custom report that uses the statistics table | |
| 08:38 | kf | rangi is right -I don't recommend using the wizard |
| 08:38 | jransom | so if had is that what we are using? |
| 08:38 | ouch | |
| 08:39 | is that what we are using | |
| 08:39 | rangi | no but you might be using a report that was written for 3.2 |
| 08:39 | jransom | i wonder if he runs our sql report whether if would find his missing issues |
| 08:40 | rangi | if its one that either doesnt join to the items table, or joins to a union of items and deleteditems then yep |
| 08:40 | jransom | I thought you had checked our sql report to confirm it was getting them all |
| 08:41 | rangi | i cant remember if i did or not |
| 08:42 | i know i wrote a new one that is correct | |
| 08:42 | jransom | ok - well lets hope that i am running an old report :) |
| 08:42 | that would be an easy fix | |
| 08:42 | so is the new script stored anywhere i can access it ? | |
| 08:43 | rangi | its a report |
| 08:43 | in saved reports | |
| 08:43 | jransom | in our install? |
| 08:43 | live site? | |
| 08:43 | marcelr | rangi: ohloh did not update koha anymore for 21 days; problem with commit history or .. ? |
| 08:44 | jransom | ok - i'll go hunting and see if there is more than 1 report (maybe Danny is running the wrong one) |
| 08:45 | rangi | yeah i emailed them |
| 08:45 | jransom | i can see 1 report only loaded in 2010 |
| 08:46 | rangi | i probably put it in a wr for you to put in |
| 08:46 | jransom | ok - ill hunt for finished wrs too |
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| 08:52 | rangi | hi eythian |
| 08:52 | eythian | howdy |
| 08:53 | jransom | heya Robin :) |
| 08:54 | eythian | jransom: hello there. Did you get my note, Shannon Gillies says hi :) |
| 08:54 | jransom | yeah |
| 08:54 | how the hell did you run into Shannon? | |
| 08:54 | eythian | Well, I'm in Brighton. Turns out she is too, and is friends with some of my workmates here. |
| 08:56 | jransom | well thats amazing :) |
| 08:57 | whats she doing there? | |
| 08:57 | such a small world aye | |
| 08:58 | eythian | right now working in a cafe, trying to get a job as a journalist. |
| 08:58 | tis a bit :) | |
| 09:01 | jransom | well please say hi for me. I liked her enormously |
| 09:01 | eythian | will do, I'll probably be seeing her on Tuesday as that's pub quiz night :) |
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| 09:01 | ropuch | Good morning #koha |
| 09:02 | jransom | good morning |
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| 09:12 | * kf | waves at eythian |
| 09:12 | kf | you made it into our newsletter |
| 09:12 | eythian | hi kf |
| 09:12 | cool | |
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| 09:19 | Brooke | o/ |
| 09:22 | wizzyrea: http://kansas2012.thatcamp.org/ | |
| 09:23 | jransom | oi |
| 09:31 | marcelr | kf++ |
| 09:31 | kf | thx marcel |
| 09:32 | marcelr | good point in your reply |
| 09:36 | Brooke | kf++ forevar |
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| 10:03 | rangi | hmm what?? |
| 10:03 | bug 8358 | |
| 10:03 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8358 major, P1 - high, ---, oleonard, NEW , Purchase Suggestion Link don't open |
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| 10:05 | rangi | we get some bizzare bug reports these days |
| 10:07 | eythian | that is pretty odd |
| 10:08 | rangi | thats gotta be some local mod or syspref |
| 10:08 | i checked that doesnt exist in the templates | |
| 10:09 | drojf joined #koha | |
| 10:09 | eythian | yeah, it's using relative links like everywhere else. |
| 10:10 | drojf joined #koha | |
| 10:10 | eythian | well, he hasn't said what page he's coming from that does this, it's possible there's some strange abberation somewhere. |
| 10:11 | rangi | i just grepped for opac-suggestions.pl |
| 10:11 | eythian | ah right |
| 10:11 | rangi | its all relative |
| 10:11 | ie all links to /cgi-bin/koha/ | |
| 10:12 | so i wonder if its from some livecd | |
| 10:12 | and thats whats set in apache or something | |
| 10:12 | or hosts | |
| 10:12 | it seems like somethign someone would set somewhere in a livecd for ppl to change | |
| 10:13 | eythian | yeah. Though it's a strange thing to make needing to be set, given it'll work fine the way it's implemented by default. |
| 10:13 | (that was a terrible sentence) | |
| 10:13 | rangi | :) |
| 10:14 | yep | |
| 10:14 | Brooke | (indeed, you sound like a bloody Yank talking that way.) |
| 10:14 | rangi | well i've update the bug, we'll see what happens |
| 10:14 | eythian | Brooke: never! |
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| 10:47 | kf_lunch | back |
| 10:50 | eythian | Oh nice, the Ubuntu install for "Amnesia" comes with PDF manuals and background stories. |
| 10:53 | kf | Amnesia? |
| 10:54 | eythian | https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/amnesia/ |
| 10:54 | drojf | unfortunately it does not come with a better graphics card |
| 10:54 | eythian | I haven't actually tried it on my laptop, it can possibly manage. |
| 10:55 | drojf | i think i tried it briefly and it did not work. did not try a lot though |
| 10:55 | eythian | I seem to have a pretty good intel chip in here, though I have no idea what it actually is. |
| 10:56 | drojf | heh |
| 10:56 | as long as it works, who needs to know :) | |
| 10:56 | eythian | "Braid" uses 3D too (though quite differently) and works fine on this. |
| 10:56 | once I enabled the patent-restricted OpenGL functions, anyway | |
| 10:56 | DRI thing talks about sandybridge | |
| 10:56 | drojf | braid worked ok for me |
| 10:58 | eythian | hmm Ok. I'll have to give amnesia a try, perhaps not when I'm at work though. |
| 10:59 | drojf | or not talk about it at least :D |
| 11:00 | eythian | heh |
| 11:00 | mind you, I should spend some time finishing Braid, too. | |
| 11:00 | It's a gorgeous game. | |
| 11:00 | drojf | yes it's nice |
| 11:01 | eythian | https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/braid/ <-- for those who don't know, though it needs more screenshots. |
| 11:02 | kf | I forgot the password for my own wiki.. |
| 11:02 | *sigh* | |
| 11:02 | eythian | heh |
| 11:02 | shouldn't your browser store it? | |
| 11:02 | kf | the problem is that the one on my laptop does... |
| 11:02 | but I am not at the laptop now | |
| 11:03 | eythian | > San Diego Bay launched 20 minutes worth of fireworks in the span of 9 seconds in an epic 4th of July failure. This is what it looked like... http://i.imgur.com/2fghq.jpg |
| 11:03 | ah right. | |
| 11:03 | kf | so.. didn't type it in a while |
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| 11:09 | Rakesh | hi |
| 11:09 | hello guys | |
| 11:09 | want your help again | |
| 11:09 | :) | |
| 11:09 | :D | |
| 11:10 | any 1 there | |
| 11:10 | i tried to install koha | |
| 11:10 | on multiple instances | |
| 11:10 | as per described in the guide of koha wiki | |
| 11:11 | and i am having a previous koha installation running too | |
| 11:11 | and when i try to restart apache it says | |
| 11:12 | port 192.168.1.60 :80 is overlapping 192.168.1.60:80 and same error on port 8080 | |
| 11:12 | also | |
| 11:12 | and it gives pherhaps u need named virtual hosts | |
| 11:12 | plz help | |
| 11:13 | any 1 who can help me | |
| 11:14 | hey rangi can u help | |
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| 11:33 | jcamins | You cannot access multiple instances via IP. |
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| 11:36 | drojf | Rakesh: are you sure that multiple instances is what you are looking for? are you familiar with the concept of library branches in koha? |
| 11:39 | Rakesh | yes |
| 11:40 | jcamins | marcelr: around? |
| 11:40 | Rakesh | ok i solved the prob of virtual hosts but it says access denied for user koha1 |
| 11:41 | in /usr/share/instance1/lib/C4/Context.pm | |
| 11:43 | marcelr | jcamins hi |
| 11:44 | jcamins | marcelr: I'm looking at bug 8203. Unfortunately I haven't figured out how to download old versions of FF yet, but it works fine on Firefox 13. |
| 11:44 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8203 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Failed QA , Should be possible to save individual authorities |
| 11:44 | Rakesh | what do ou guys think is the solution |
| 11:44 | marcelr | i will try an update, jcamins |
| 11:44 | but 9 is not that old in ff terms.. | |
| 11:44 | jcamins | No, it isn't. |
| 11:45 | Are you able to download bib records in the staff client using the Save menu? | |
| 11:45 | marcelr | will check it |
| 11:45 | yes that works fine | |
| 11:46 | jcamins | And just to check, if you do an Alt-reload of an authority page, does that fix it? |
| 11:46 | marcelr | i refreshed a couple of times.. |
| 11:47 | jcamins | Hm. |
| 11:47 | Rakesh | hey any one around that can help |
| 11:47 | jcamins | Rakesh: you entered the wrong password. |
| 11:48 | marcelr | jcamins: in detail.tt export.pl is called from a form; on auth side from a yui menu (there is a difference) |
| 11:48 | jcamins | Hm. |
| 11:50 | And you're on a branch that is master + that patch? | |
| 11:50 | marcelr | yes |
| 11:52 | jcamins | If you right click, does "Copy link address" work? |
| 11:52 | Rakesh | no i checked it in koha-conf.xml it uses the right password |
| 11:53 | jcamins | Rakesh: in that case you messed something up while trying to do things with the virtual host. |
| 11:53 | Rakesh | see what i just did is that |
| 11:53 | in the httpd-conf file of the second install just changed the ports | |
| 11:53 | 81 an 8081 | |
| 11:54 | and in apache ports.conf i entered listen 81 | |
| 11:54 | and listen 8081 | |
| 11:54 | jcamins | That should work. |
| 11:54 | Rakesh | thats all and i entered virtualhost *:81 |
| 11:54 | ya but i am getting the problem | |
| 11:55 | jcamins | However, if you are now getting access denied, that means your username/password isn't right. |
| 11:55 | Rakesh | but i checcked everywhere |
| 11:55 | it is the same' | |
| 11:55 | jcamins | Check again. |
| 11:55 | We can't troubleshoot things magically. | |
| 11:55 | marcelr | jcamins: copying link address does not work; i installed ff 13.0.1 english; the problem persists ?! |
| 11:56 | yui thing ? | |
| 11:56 | jcamins | That's what I'm thinking. |
| 11:56 | Are you using YUI from Yahoo's servers? | |
| 11:56 | marcelr | pointing at yahoo, yes |
| 11:57 | jcamins | I will set my computer to do the same and see what I see. |
| 11:57 | marcelr | on a clean master + only 8203 |
| 11:57 | commit 74f6e97396eb7368fb4e408bcf00ca9ff399c5a3 | |
| 11:58 | Rakesh | according to u in which files should i check |
| 11:58 | jcamins | Rakesh: I'm sorry, I have to go back to my work now. |
| 11:59 | Hm. The commit from when I just applied it to master from bz was aa7331... | |
| 11:59 | Rakesh | kk |
| 11:59 | bii | |
| 12:00 | * jcamins | is trying it in IE. |
| 12:00 | drojf | haha, you got IE |
| 12:00 | marcelr | i see that i can move 3 commit forward |
| 12:00 | jcamins | marcelr: it's yuipath. |
| 12:01 | Lemme see if I can troubleshoot this. | |
| 12:01 | Good catch. | |
| 12:01 | marcelr | no wisdom involved :-) |
| 12:01 | jcamins | drojf: yeah, I figure if anything is going to be curmudgeonly, it'll be IE. |
| 12:04 | Weird. There is no difference in the markup. | |
| 12:04 | marcelr | jcamins: note that the detail template works (via form get) |
| 12:05 | can you specify new blank target in the yui url ? | |
| 12:06 | jcamins | What do you mean? |
| 12:06 | Oh, I see. | |
| 12:06 | I shall try. | |
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| 12:23 | jcamins | This is really weird. |
| 12:27 | Ooh, fixed it! | |
| 12:28 | marcelr | ok what did you do? |
| 12:29 | new patch forthcoming? | |
| 12:29 | jcamins | Yeah, I'm doing a follow-up. |
| 12:29 | I'm putting a copyright statement for the MADS stylesheet. | |
| 12:29 | marcelr | ok |
| 12:29 | jcamins | The problem was the "id" line. |
| 12:30 | Apparently that's only used for non-menu buttons in the newest version of YUI. | |
| 12:30 | marcelr | will take a look |
| 12:31 | jcamins | gmcharlt: the server that fulfillment-ill.org is on ran out of disk space, hard. |
| 12:31 | marcelr | id: savemenuc ? |
| 12:31 | jcamins | That's the one. |
| 12:32 | marcelr | this thing might be interesting to copy to dev list; when something with yui changes, also test both yuipaths too |
| 12:33 | * jcamins | is just going to beg oleonard to change menubuttons to jQueryUI next. ;) |
| 12:33 | jcamins | *was just |
| 12:34 | Attached follow-up. | |
| 12:34 | Oops. | |
| 12:34 | No I didn't. | |
| 12:34 | * jcamins | tries again. |
| 12:35 | marcelr | yes, i see it |
| 12:35 | jcamins | There we go. |
| 12:36 | When you're signing off on that, could you remove the link in the commit message? It's pointing to the wrong report. | |
| 12:36 | marcelr | i will do |
| 12:36 | just remove that link; who reads that? | |
| 12:37 | jcamins | No one, but it offends me to have the wrong link in a commit message. ;) |
| 12:38 | marcelr | i deleted it |
| 12:38 | jcamins | Thanks. :) |
| 12:38 | marcelr++ | |
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| 12:39 | marcelr | ok, it works now for both yuipaths |
| 12:39 | jcamins | Yay! |
| 12:39 | kf | :) |
| 12:40 | good point about testing | |
| 12:40 | we should start a wiki page for testing... maybe (wanted to do that for like forever...) | |
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| 12:56 | marcelr | jcamins: bug 8206 ? |
| 12:56 | wahanui | hmmm... bug 8206 is ready for cait's sign off. |
| 12:56 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8206 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Signed Off , Add additional search options to authority browser in OPAC |
| 12:56 | kf | lol |
| 12:56 | didn't she sign off on that? | |
| 12:56 | jcamins | She did. |
| 12:56 | marcelr | yes you did |
| 12:56 | jcamins | marcelr: yes? |
| 12:57 | marcelr | jcamins: are you sure about 1=Match ? |
| 12:57 | cannot find it in bib1.att | |
| 12:57 | you know the old grs way.. | |
| 12:57 | :-) | |
| 12:57 | jcamins | Hm. |
| 12:58 | marcelr | Search authorities ERROR 114 |
| 12:58 | no results of course | |
| 12:58 | jcamins | Good question. |
| 12:58 | I thought I added it for 7284. | |
| 12:58 | * kf | tested it with grs only |
| 12:58 | kf | dom was not in then |
| 12:59 | marcelr | i see 8804 |
| 12:59 | match-heading | |
| 12:59 | wahanui | match-heading is missing? |
| 12:59 | marcelr | he wahanui again> |
| 12:59 | ? | |
| 12:59 | wahanui: what are you doing? | |
| 12:59 | wahanui | marcelr: wish i knew |
| 12:59 | marcelr | ;) |
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| 13:00 | marcelr | kf: you could not have results with 1=Match ? |
| 13:00 | jcamins | I will check into it. |
| 13:01 | Hm. | |
| 13:01 | marcelr | will put my note in the report |
| 13:02 | jcamins | You are right... the version of bib1.att and record.abs in Master are not the ones that I carefully rewrote. |
| 13:02 | marcelr | one day match will be matching |
| 13:03 | jcamins | This is really weird. |
| 13:03 | marcelr | another report of that jcamins on top of signed off queue |
| 13:04 | bug 8256 | |
| 13:04 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8256 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Signed Off , Reports webservice should allow selection by name |
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| 13:04 | * jcamins | didn't want you to be bored. |
| 13:04 | marcelr | signed by cait as well |
| 13:04 | you did not interfere the qa discussion | |
| 13:05 | wouldn't you like to be qa er too? | |
| 13:05 | kf | marcelr: :( I am not sure how that happened - I did test. |
| 13:05 | marcelr | last question was for jcamins |
| 13:06 | kf | hm |
| 13:06 | marcelr | kf: no problem |
| 13:06 | kf | maybe my zebra fiels are different from recent testing of something else? |
| 13:06 | jcamins | marcelr: I hardly have time to sign off on things! |
| 13:06 | kf | I don't overwrite them often, I might have missed that |
| 13:06 | gaetan_B | hmmm, i just noticed that in older versions (namely 3.0) overdues were grouped by borrower in overdue.pl, which made a lot of sense for libraries who use the 'email' links on this page to send overdue notices. Now they are sorted by return date, and you would end up sending one email per late document rather than per borrower. Was there a reason behind this change ? |
| 13:06 | marcelr | i have some reports there too very small |
| 13:07 | kf | gaetan_B: different kind of workflow maybe - couldn't it be sortable? |
| 13:07 | jcamins | kf: I think because you tested before DOM? Somehow my Zebra config got reverted. |
| 13:07 | gaetan_B | kf: the table is not sortable and i couldn't find a syspref for this |
| 13:07 | kf | gaetan_B: and the mail links don't work so well - there is some untranslated text in the subjects and maybe a problem with diacritics |
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| 13:07 | kf | jcamins: that's a possibility |
| 13:07 | jcamins: I did def test before dom was pushed | |
| 13:08 | gaetan_B | i guess i'll tell them to export a csv and manage it this way |
| 13:08 | marcelr | bugzilla is very slow |
| 13:08 | if it is even slow | |
| 13:09 | jcamins | marcelr: you don't see 8900? |
| 13:10 | In your bib1.att? | |
| 13:10 | My record.abs was still reverted, but the bib1.att was not. | |
| 13:11 | marcelr | oops it is in master, but not in mine? |
| 13:11 | jcamins | Yeah. |
| 13:11 | I mean, you won't get any results, but it shouldn't have given that error. | |
| 13:11 | marcelr | i am terribly sorry :-) |
| 13:12 | and bugzilla is too probably | |
| 13:12 | no response yet | |
| 13:13 | jcamins | Okay, I unreverted my changes to record.abs for MARC21. |
| 13:14 | (by copying the changes back into the file) | |
| 13:14 | My changes to UNIMARC remain. | |
| 13:15 | marcelr | another test note: get your zebra config back in line with master.. *sigh* |
| 13:15 | jcamins | That too. :P |
| 13:15 | But I have a follow-up for you which will make it better. :) | |
| 13:16 | marcelr | nice thing of 8256 is: no yui, no zebra |
| 13:16 | jcamins | I think what happened is that when I was signing off on bug 7818 I inadvertantly trampled my indexing changes. |
| 13:16 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7818 critical, P1 - high, ---, robin, Signed Off , support DOM mode for Zebra indexing of bibliographic records |
| 13:16 | jcamins | (from 7284) |
| 13:16 | marcelr | that was a big one |
| 13:17 | jcamins | Yeah. And I guess I was a little too focused on making sure DOM worked. |
| 13:19 | kf | so I am not guilty of bad testing? ;) |
| 13:19 | nah I am, because I didn't update my index files too | |
| 13:19 | *sigh* | |
| 13:19 | jcamins | At the time they would have been up to date. |
| 13:19 | marcelr: follow-up attached to bug 8206. | |
| 13:19 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8206 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Failed QA , Add additional search options to authority browser in OPAC |
| 13:20 | kf | marcel++ for testing patches! |
| 13:20 | caught 2 problems that would have caused problems | |
| 13:20 | marcelr | jcamins: svc/report is not a nice perl file |
| 13:20 | kf | pretty cool :) |
| 13:20 | marcelr | my selinux does not like such files |
| 13:21 | jcamins | It doesn't? Hm. |
| 13:21 | marcelr | he expects .pl at the end; i told him so |
| 13:21 | jcamins | There are a bunch of files like that. |
| 13:21 | marcelr | not that much |
| 13:21 | * jcamins | didn't name the file, just edited it. |
| 13:21 | jcamins | About a dozen. |
| 13:22 | marcelr | could be, yeah; but since it changed, i have to relabel it |
| 13:22 | kf | hm I think a pl ending is not recommended by some perl books? |
| 13:22 | wouldn't it be better to check for the first line of the script maybe? | |
| 13:22 | marcelr | have a patch for that waiting; but it must include that svc/report now too |
| 13:22 | jcamins | svc/report is not a new file, so your patch may already have it. |
| 13:23 | marcelr | no i mean opac/svc/report |
| 13:23 | sorry again | |
| 13:23 | eythian | there's no real need for a perl file to end in .pl, and there are good arguments why it shouldn't. |
| 13:23 | especially when in a URL | |
| 13:24 | marcelr | but there are also good arguments why it should |
| 13:24 | eythian | I haven't seen any :) |
| 13:24 | jcamins | eythian: it works with SELinux. |
| 13:24 | marcelr | that's why they found out the file extension stuff :-) |
| 13:25 | eythian | jcamins: that sounds like a misconfiguration in selinux then, you're basing the filetype detection on a bit of information that's not actually related to the filetype. |
| 13:25 | marcelr | eythian: about consistency, we have 1000s of perl scripts and 10 do not end with pl ? |
| 13:25 | eythian | sure, that's an argument for it in Koha, but not in general. |
| 13:25 | jcamins | eythian: that may be. I don't use selinux. |
| 13:25 | I guess I probably ought to. | |
| 13:26 | I know it has something to do with security. | |
| 13:26 | marcelr | just an additional security layer to make your life easier or miserable .. just depends |
| 13:26 | eythian | yeah, it makes it feasible to restrict what something can access to only things it has a reason to access |
| 13:26 | I think apparmor on ubuntu does a similar thing | |
| 13:27 | (although SElinux possibly goes further, as it also fits in user-based restrictions) | |
| 13:27 | marcelr | but nevertheless i am using it |
| 13:27 | eythian | presumably you should retrain it, can you tell it to go into "learn" mode? |
| 13:28 | marcelr | jcamins: have to go, but will look at both patches soon |
| 13:28 | jcamins | marcelr++ |
| 13:28 | marcelr | i claimed them now.. |
| 13:28 | bye | |
| 13:33 | * wizzyrea | waves |
| 13:33 | yawns | |
| 13:35 | kf | hi wizzyrea :) |
| 13:37 | paul_p++ # splitting circ improvements up into smaller pieces | |
| 13:43 | hmm | |
| 13:43 | can someone test something for me on current master? | |
| 13:44 | oh | |
| 13:44 | I think I found the problem, never mind! | |
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| 13:56 | kf | question: is it a bug that the print view of lists only print the first page? |
| 14:00 | nengard | do i remember (i think kf said it) that for notices the predue and advanced notice have to have the codes they have to work? or can we use any code we want? |
| 14:01 | kf ? yes i think that is a bug | |
| 14:01 | the lists thing ? finding it | |
| 14:02 | hmmm ? can't find the bug | |
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| 14:06 | kf | nengard: they have to have their codes |
| 14:06 | nengard: afaik! | |
| 14:07 | nengard | so it looks at the branch and the code combo? |
| 14:07 | kf | nengard: about the lists - did you mean it's already reported somewhere? |
| 14:07 | nengard | I thought I remembered that bug but can't find the report |
| 14:07 | kf | nengard: it shoudl do that - but at the moment you can't create the notice like that :( |
| 14:07 | I think I filed a bug for that | |
| 14:07 | nengard | I think I did the bug on that you commented |
| 14:07 | I'm just checking so I can update the manual accordingly | |
| 14:08 | kf | lol |
| 14:08 | ok, let's sort this out - I am getting confused | |
| 14:08 | notices | |
| 14:08 | I think there is a bug or even 2 | |
| 14:08 | nengard | but 7997 |
| 14:08 | Okay - notices there is a bug ? lists I thought there was, but there isn't | |
| 14:08 | bug 7997 | |
| 14:08 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7997 major, P5 - low, ---, henridamien, NEW , can create a notice with the same code |
| 14:08 | nengard | for notices |
| 14:08 | kf | bug 8259 |
| 14:08 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8259 major, P2, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Library for notices not saving correctly |
| 14:10 | kf | ah |
| 14:10 | also: bug 3383 | |
| 14:10 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3383 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Needs Signoff , Item due reminder digests - cannot display title information |
| 14:10 | kf | oh sorry |
| 14:10 | I meant bug 8258 | |
| 14:10 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8258 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Branch specific DUEDGST notice is not used |
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| 14:10 | kf | maybe all those things are connected to each other |
| 14:11 | I have to say I don't undertand my bug report totally right now :( | |
| 14:11 | nengard | kf linked them all together with the see also |
| 14:11 | for now | |
| 14:12 | kf | good idea |
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| 14:55 | francharb | hi all |
| 14:56 | could someone explain me why there are 2 links 'budgets" and 'funds' on the aquisition home page? | |
| 14:56 | There was only one link recently... | |
| 14:57 | but it came back as 2 links | |
| 14:57 | and it's bad... | |
| 14:58 | to go on the fund page, you need to select a budget first | |
| 14:58 | ... | |
| 14:58 | :( | |
| 14:58 | kf, have you noticed that? | |
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| 14:59 | francharb | there were two links (budgets and funds), then, just one (budget & funds) and now, there are two links... |
| 14:59 | Rakesh | hi guys |
| 15:00 | please solve my mysql problem | |
| 15:00 | while opening the koha web installer | |
| 15:00 | it says access denied for the user using password (yes) | |
| 15:01 | francharb | Rakesh, could you tell us more? |
| 15:01 | is it a fresh install? | |
| 15:01 | kf | francharb: sorry, no test installation in reach right now - haven't noticed yet but sounds like a bug? |
| 15:02 | Rakesh: you probably gave it the wrong mysql password | |
| 15:02 | Rakesh: the login information in your koha-conf.xml file should match your configuration for myswl | |
| 15:02 | francharb | kf, I just asked at biblibre and apparently, it comes from us |
| 15:03 | :( | |
| 15:03 | kf | francharb: the bug? |
| 15:03 | wahanui | the bug is probably that if you scan the barcode on the circ page you aren't allowed to renew it that way |
| 15:03 | reiveune | bye |
| 15:03 | francharb | but yeah kf, it's not a good idea |
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| 15:03 | kf | perhaps bad merge? |
| 15:03 | francharb | kf, I will investigate more |
| 15:04 | but having "funds" as a link is a bad idea. It goes on one fund with no logic.. | |
| 15:04 | :( | |
| 15:04 | Rakesh | Access denied for user 'koha1'@'localhost' (using password: YES) at /usr/share/instance1/lib/C4/Context.pm line 758. Compilation failed in require at /usr/share/instance1/lib/C4/Auth.pm line 31. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/share/instance1/lib/C4/Auth.pm line 31. Compilation failed in require at /usr/share/instance1/opac/cgi-bin/opac/opac-main.pl |
| 15:04 | kf | Rakesh: maybe this will help you: http://koha.1045719.n5.nabble.[…]or-td4497883.html |
| 15:04 | Rakesh | this is the error |
| 15:04 | kf | yes |
| 15:04 | wrong configuration | |
| 15:05 | francharb: I think it's maybe because the meaning funds / budget got reversed | |
| 15:05 | forget bug | |
| 15:05 | wahanui | kf: I forgot bug |
| 15:06 | francharb | no kf |
| 15:06 | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8040 | |
| 15:06 | huginn | 04Bug 8040: minor, P3, ---, stephane.delaune, Pushed to Stable , a menu misnamed in budgets |
| 15:06 | francharb | but I dont get it at all |
| 15:06 | kf | let me check |
| 15:06 | francharb | I will ask Stephane tomorrow where this come from |
| 15:06 | It doesn't make sense | |
| 15:06 | kf | hmmm |
| 15:07 | yes | |
| 15:07 | it doesn't | |
| 15:07 | I think a budets and funds link was ok | |
| 15:07 | but I think it's mostly just a misunderstanding | |
| 15:07 | I woudl kill the funds link | |
| 15:07 | and change it back to a link to show the budgets page, becasue you can navigate to the funds from there | |
| 15:07 | wahanui | kf: that doesn't look right |
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| 15:08 | kf | francharb: perhaps just revert the change? |
| 15:09 | francharb | I will ask Stephane more about this and see what to do to go back to the "budgets & funds" link which was more logical |
| 15:09 | kf | yes |
| 15:09 | I think funds would only make sense with a budget parameter | |
| 15:09 | but where would we get this? | |
| 15:09 | francharb | thats right |
| 15:10 | that's why, budgets & funds was better | |
| 15:10 | ;) | |
| 15:10 | kf | yep - I agree :) |
| 15:10 | francharb | you choose your budget first |
| 15:10 | kf | I think the change was meant well |
| 15:10 | but it's not so practical | |
| 15:10 | francharb | and see the related funds |
| 15:10 | :) | |
| 15:10 | * kf | nods |
| 15:11 | francharb | I go back on the acquisition module. I give a training next week |
| 15:11 | I need to see the new stuffs | |
| 15:11 | :) | |
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| 15:11 | kf | :) |
| 15:12 | francharb: would be cool to look at some of the devs together some tiem | |
| 15:12 | we didn't figure out a testing plan at the hackfest :( | |
| 15:12 | francharb | I know ! :( |
| 15:12 | kf | and with the new bugs paul filed today... lots of testing will be needed in circ |
| 15:12 | francharb | :( |
| 15:12 | kf | I still think it's probably too big for one person - we have to find a way to do that as a groups |
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| 15:12 | francharb | I agree kf |
| 15:13 | I just need to find time to focus on that | |
| 15:13 | kf | yeah me too |
| 15:13 | I spent a day on http:recorder | |
| 15:13 | francharb | but lately, I had a LOT of work to do |
| 15:13 | kf | but there was a problem with the session cookie - so I didn't get it working :( |
| 15:13 | wnted to record some test cases | |
| 15:13 | same here | |
| 15:13 | it's CRAZY. | |
| 15:13 | francharb | welcome to my world |
| 15:13 | ;) | |
| 15:14 | kf | our world :) |
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| 15:15 | francharb | hopefully, I will have more time in 2 weeks and during august |
| 15:15 | be sure that I will let you know | |
| 15:15 | when I will come up with a testing plan | |
| 15:15 | ;) | |
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| 15:16 | kf | francharb: ok :) |
| 15:16 | I will let you know once I figured out the recording | |
| 15:19 | Rakesh | see |
| 15:20 | francharb | ok kf |
| 15:21 | Rakesh | i checked everywhere for the passwodd if it is incorrect' |
| 15:21 | but it seems everything is right | |
| 15:21 | now plz help | |
| 15:22 | it says using the password yes | |
| 15:22 | but it gives error access denied | |
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| 15:23 | kf | can you access the databaseon command line with the user and password you have in the koha configuration file? |
| 15:23 | mysql -u<youruser> -p<yourpassword> <yourdatabasename> | |
| 15:24 | Rakesh | see i have three users |
| 15:25 | root works with pass | |
| 15:25 | koha works | |
| 15:25 | but koha1 gives error | |
| 15:25 | in mysql command line | |
| 15:25 | i entered mysql -u koha1 -p | |
| 15:25 | it asks password | |
| 15:25 | kf | yes |
| 15:25 | Rakesh | i give |
| 15:26 | kf | that's the better way to do it anyway |
| 15:26 | -p and then let it ask | |
| 15:26 | Rakesh | then it says access denied |
| 15:26 | kf | thre is your problem then |
| 15:26 | if it doesn't work in mysql, it can't work in koha | |
| 15:26 | Rakesh | so how should i solve it? |
| 15:26 | see i have a root | |
| 15:27 | and i have a koha alredy running | |
| 15:27 | kf | I think you have to repeat the step where you give the koha mysql user permissions to use the database |
| 15:27 | see the link I send you | |
| 15:27 | before installing Koha you should have done something like this when creating the database :mysql> grant all on <kohadatabasename>.*mysql>\ | |
| 15:27 | to'<kohadatabaseuser>'@'localhost' identified by\ | |
| 15:27 | '<kohadatabaseuserpassword>'; | |
| 15:28 | without the \ - that's from copying it out of the mailing list mail | |
| 15:28 | sorry, I have to go back to work now | |
| 15:28 | Rakesh | i did it |
| 15:28 | but still | |
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| 15:34 | Rakesh | any1 else who can help |
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| 15:42 | tajoli | Hi, anyone working on bug 8251 (Patrons are systematically debarred at checkin) ? |
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| 15:43 | gaetan_B | bye ! |
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| 15:59 | wizzyrea | bug 8251 |
| 15:59 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8251 critical, P1 - high, ---, koha, Needs Signoff , Patrons are systematically debarred at checkin |
| 16:00 | tajoli | I want to test it but there are two patches |
| 16:01 | Do I need to use them together ? | |
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| 16:11 | drojf | hi tajoli |
| 16:12 | tajoli | hi |
| 16:12 | drojf | as i understand it, you should use both, but i am not sure how to test since the followup patch changes days to day just everywhere it occurs as far as i understand. |
| 16:14 | tajoli | I try to use both then I report |
| 16:14 | Bye | |
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| 16:19 | YeahKoha | Question: We just upgraded to 3.02.05 from 2.2.9 the upgrade went reletively smoothly. However we cannot checkout any books to any patrons. Every patron comes up with "Cannot Check Out!" There is no red warning below the error. This happens on every Patron, even the Admin account. Any insights into what we missed? |
| 16:20 | None of the patrons are disbarred or lost card or validate address. | |
| 16:20 | jcamins | YeahKoha: most likely you need to configure your circulation rules. |
| 16:20 | YeahKoha: you know that 3.02.05 is incredibly old, right? | |
| 16:20 | The current versions are 3.6.6 and 3.8.2. | |
| 16:21 | YeahKoha | We did that for each branch and a default rule too. |
| 16:22 | cait | YeahKoha: I would strongly recommend updating to a more current version |
| 16:22 | and fix your problems there | |
| 16:22 | it might be something in the dat | |
| 16:22 | a | |
| 16:22 | did you use the conversion scripts? | |
| 16:22 | or did you export/import your data? | |
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| 16:24 | YeahKoha | We used the 2.2 to 3.0 update scripts after importing the database to a test server. We still have our original intact. |
| 16:24 | jcamins | You should think about upgrading the rest of the way, to 3.6.6 or 3.8.2 (I prefer 3.6.6). |
| 16:24 | No one here has used 3.2.5 in quite a while. | |
| 16:26 | YeahKoha | What is involved in the database update for 3.6? Do we have to update our database at several levels or is there just the 2.2 to 3? |
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| 16:26 | cait | YeahKoha: it's less complicated |
| 16:26 | there will be one script you have to run | |
| 16:27 | all other things the web installer will handle for you | |
| 16:27 | and the script is noted in the release notes - jcamins 3.4? | |
| 16:27 | YeahKoha | Do you have a recommended install guide for 2.2 to 3.6? |
| 16:28 | jcamins | cait: remove_items_from_biblioitems.pl |
| 16:29 | YeahKoha | or recommended distro? |
| 16:29 | jcamins | YeahKoha: you already got to 3.2.5, so now you just install 3.6.6 over it. |
| 16:29 | YeahKoha | I see. |
| 16:29 | jcamins | It will automatically update, except for the remove_items_from_biblioitems.pl script, which you will have to run manually, once. |
| 16:29 | YeahKoha | see if that fixes the issues with the DB |
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| 16:29 | YeahKoha | will do. Thanks! |
| 16:31 | Thank you for your help. Really appreciated this is driving me nuts. I hope we can figure it out. | |
| 16:33 | cait | if you are there |
| 16:33 | we will know our way around better too - and it will easier to help you :) | |
| 16:33 | jcamins: was not sure about the version with the script in the release notes :) | |
| 16:34 | jcamins | cait: oh, yes, 3.4. |
| 16:35 | mib_nogxa0 | Is it Serial Claim notice is generating in koha |
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| 16:52 | Rakesh | hello guys |
| 16:53 | i have got a problem' | |
| 16:53 | i installed koha | |
| 16:53 | and it worked | |
| 16:53 | and i installed it on multiple instances | |
| 16:53 | when i try to run the web installer it says acces denied using password yes | |
| 16:54 | earlier i was able to access the root account | |
| 16:54 | but now it also says that access denied too | |
| 16:54 | plz help | |
| 16:54 | jcamins | vendors? |
| 16:54 | wahanui | Koha Support Providers can be found at http://koha-community.org/support/paid-support/ |
| 16:54 | jcamins | Rakesh: you may want to consider hiring someone to assist you in the setup. |
| 16:54 | Rakesh | no |
| 16:55 | :) | |
| 16:55 | pls tell how to repair the access denied error' | |
| 16:55 | jcamins | kf did tell you. |
| 16:55 | You have to set up a MySQL user properly. | |
| 16:56 | No one is paid to answer questions on this channel, so if you need more attention than we can afford to give for free, you need to find someone you can pay to answer questions. | |
| 16:56 | Rakesh | really? |
| 16:56 | can u tell me which files should i check | |
| 16:57 | jcamins | Really. |
| 16:57 | Rakesh | cant bilieve |
| 16:57 | jcamins | http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.1/en/ |
| 16:57 | Rakesh | but tel |
| 16:59 | what should i open in this | |
| 16:59 | jcamins | You should read through the manual so you understand how to use MySQL. |
| 17:00 | Rakesh | ok thanks |
| 17:13 | drojf | aaaand nigeria takes the lead |
| 17:15 | cait | can't understand not more voting for US |
| 17:16 | drojf | probably the holiday |
| 17:16 | jcamins | cait: apathy. |
| 17:16 | That too. | |
| 17:16 | And there are three venues. | |
| 17:16 | So 1/3 of the votes go to any venue. | |
| 17:16 | *only 1/3 | |
| 17:17 | drojf | yes all us no.1 votes together would be first position now |
| 17:17 | jcamins | Actually it's probably more fair this way. |
| 17:18 | drojf | nengard: are you actually looking at all the names/ email addresses/ organisations of the voters? |
| 17:19 | nengard | drojf I'm not looking at anything right now, but I do have that availability |
| 17:19 | remember each place gets points based on it's ranking - so if it's voted #1 it gets 5 points, #2 4 points, and so on .. so even if it's not all #1 it could still be picked based on score | |
| 17:20 | drojf | ah ok. is that eplained somewhere? |
| 17:20 | cait | yeah, which is why I voted wrong - should have left some empty |
| 17:20 | drojf | explained even |
| 17:20 | cait | on the wiki |
| 17:20 | wahanui | hmmm... on the wiki is more information about the packages |
| 17:20 | nengard | it was explained in 2011 ? not sure I put that on the 2013 one |
| 17:20 | and I should | |
| 17:20 | cait | we should put it into the survey somewhere next time maybe |
| 17:20 | nengard | I can update the survey description if you want |
| 17:20 | jcamins | It was in an e-mail I think. |
| 17:20 | cait | nengard: I think it might be good |
| 17:20 | nengard | no prob |
| 17:20 | cait | but not sur eit's fair in the middle |
| 17:20 | nengard | I'll go add it - now a search question ? |
| 17:20 | cait | undecided really |
| 17:21 | what do the others think? | |
| 17:21 | nengard | when I search for the word 'not' or a title with the word 'not' in it i have problems |
| 17:21 | if it's just 'not' i get an error | |
| 17:21 | if it's a title with 'not' in it i don't find the title | |
| 17:21 | cait | uhoh |
| 17:21 | nengard | now i thought zebra didn't use boolean phrases |
| 17:21 | jcamins | cait: well, that's the way it was announced it was going to work. |
| 17:21 | cait | sounds like koha is trying to be smar |
| 17:21 | drojf | it's no change to the mechanism, just more clarification. i don't see why that should not be added now |
| 17:21 | cait | t |
| 17:21 | nengard | Error: Can't call method "sort" on an undefined value at /home/nengard/kohaclone/C4/Search.pm line 404. |
| 17:21 | cait | I think not is maybe removed from your search |
| 17:21 | jcamins | nengard: I think you probably know the solution to this: "don't use the word 'not' in searches." |
| 17:22 | cait | and not not finding something because you tell it to not search for the word after not |
| 17:22 | could that be? | |
| 17:22 | nengard | jcamins - try and teach all patrons that ? now give me a better answer |
| 17:22 | cait | rewrite Search.pm? |
| 17:22 | jcamins | ^^ |
| 17:22 | Yeah, that's what it comes down to. | |
| 17:22 | I was talking with a few people about possibly taking on that project. | |
| 17:23 | * cait | loves jcamins' projects |
| 17:23 | cait | which reminds me I have some testing to do :) |
| 17:23 | after dinner | |
| 17:23 | jcamins | Sort of a question of whether enough librarians _really_ care about it. |
| 17:23 | cait | I think we have to come up with some changes for the solr/zebra integration? |
| 17:23 | SJeffery | Are you supposed to not rank locatios that you absolutely would not be able to attend, or rank them anyway? |
| 17:23 | jcamins | After my e-mail, some people popped up and said "oh, yeah, we care, we didn't realize it could be fixed." |
| 17:23 | nengard | survey description updated |
| 17:23 | cait | SJeffery: I think that would make sense |
| 17:24 | jcamins: which mail? | |
| 17:24 | wahanui | which mail are we talking about? |
| 17:24 | cait | hehe |
| 17:24 | nengard | SJeffery, I didn't explain it well this year and that's my fault - if you can't attend a place you shouldn't vote for it at all .. if we need to start the voting again now that that's clear I can do that ?.. |
| 17:26 | jcamins | SJeffery: I ranked them at the bottom. I guess I should've left it blank, maybe. I don't know. |
| 17:26 | cait: someone asked about searching, I explained that there was a big problem, which I'd love to tackle, but it was too big for a hobby-type project. | |
| 17:26 | cait | ah :) |
| 17:26 | very cool! | |
| 17:27 | nengard | jcamins that's why i'm wondering if i should redo the survey ?. cause i wasn't clear - totally my fault |
| 17:27 | i'll leave it to the community to decide | |
| 17:27 | but the points is how we did it other years | |
| 17:27 | jcamins | I'm not sure. Maybe sound out an e-mail asking? |
| 17:27 | Oh, I knew it was by points, I just didn't think about whether I should be voting for places I couldn't possibly go or not. | |
| 17:28 | cait | I think restarting now might cause more trouble |
| 17:28 | and anyone could have asked | |
| 17:28 | including me | |
| 17:28 | so with the new note we shoud let it run I guess | |
| 17:29 | jcamins | That makes sense. |
| 17:29 | SJeffery | I have now voted, hopefully Reno wins! |
| 17:30 | cait | reno! |
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| 17:31 | nengard | email sent to the list- please reply with your opinions |
| 17:38 | jcamins | nengard: in all seriousness about the search problem, it's a small symptom of a really big problem which can't really be solved with anything less than a rewrite. |
| 17:39 | nengard | okey dokey |
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| 17:54 | mustard | There are two Evergreen positions open in MO. Suppose I'd get spanked if I sent a link to the Koha list? |
| 17:58 | cait | MO? |
| 17:59 | jcamins | The home state of Shoeless Joe! |
| 17:59 | Missouri. | |
| 17:59 | wahanui | somebody said missouri was forming a consortium. |
| 17:59 | jcamins | mustard: I think I've seen ads for Evergreen folks on the Koha list before. |
| 18:05 | nengard | okay ? so ? at some point i pushed the 3.10 manual to the 3.8 branch ? can anyone tell me how to find out where i screwed up? |
| 18:05 | found it | |
| 18:06 | it might not be the entire 3.10 manual | |
| 18:06 | is 'IssueLostItem' a preference in 3.8? | |
| 18:06 | nope ? hmm | |
| 18:08 | cait | nengard: not sure, maybe check bugzilla? |
| 18:09 | drojf | i'll look |
| 18:10 | we don't have that in our 3.8 | |
| 18:13 | nengard | yeah it's not there |
| 18:13 | so i found the commit | |
| 18:40 | rangi | cait++ |
| 18:41 | im glad im not the only, "wait ... what?" to the restart idea | |
| 18:42 | cait | no, you are not :) |
| 18:42 | jcamins | Very weird in a salad. |
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| 18:42 | jcamins | And it's still boring. |
| 18:42 | (caraway seeds are very weird in a salad, that is) | |
| 18:44 | cait | heh, wrong window? :) |
| 18:44 | jcamins | Yup. |
| 18:44 | cait | :) |
| 18:51 | rangi | caraway seeds are wrong |
| 18:51 | wrong i tells ya | |
| 18:53 | jcamins | What is this? |
| 18:53 | The international "I hate caraway" community? | |
| 18:54 | cait | rangi: I hate them too hehe |
| 18:54 | which I told jcamins in the other window | |
| 18:55 | drojf | stop caraway hate! |
| 18:55 | rangi | 293 votes .. i dont think we can throw them all away now |
| 18:55 | drojf | not after i actually calculated all the 5x, 4x, 3x etc |
| 18:57 | nengard | i guess if someone feels strongly I can edit their vote on the db level ? not that I want to really open that can of worms |
| 18:57 | I feel bad cause I didn't explain | |
| 18:57 | and only those who were involved in other years realized | |
| 18:57 | so if I have to do something to make people feel it's fair I'll do it | |
| 18:58 | cait | I think we all could have noted that earlier |
| 18:58 | I think people from the channel were early voters | |
| 18:58 | rangi | fwiw reno is winning now |
| 18:58 | cait | I think it fairer to keep it the way it is |
| 18:58 | rangi | if that makes me not want to change it |
| 18:58 | cait | ? |
| 18:58 | jcamins | cait: "you"? |
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| 18:59 | cait | me? |
| 18:59 | wahanui | That's Ms. Cait to you! or in a very good mood today :) or a librarian, you will get wahanui's information or a hero or signing off on wahanui's patch :) |
| 18:59 | rangi | sorry if that makes people not want to change it |
| 18:59 | * cait | is confused now |
| 18:59 | nengard | me too :) |
| 18:59 | hehe | |
| 19:00 | wizzyrea | i say don't change it - if someone complains you can nuke their vote and put in a new one on their behalf |
| 19:00 | or don't restart it | |
| 19:00 | or you can nuke their existing vote (if they put their name on it) and give that person a do-over | |
| 19:00 | jcamins | That makes sense to me. |
| 19:00 | wizzyrea | like, I might go for that |
| 19:00 | jcamins | If they didn't put their real name on it, it was kind of fraud anyway. |
| 19:01 | * wizzyrea | did it wrong |
| 19:01 | wizzyrea | (and I did it last year too!) |
| 19:01 | cait | wizzyrea: same for me, but I am keeping my vote |
| 19:01 | wizzyrea | well there are some places that are highly unlikely that I'd get to go to |
| 19:04 | rangi | 295 now |
| 19:04 | francharb | If I way, we should'nt pay so much attention to the voters but more on the hosts.. |
| 19:04 | s/if i way/if i may | |
| 19:04 | rangi | what he said |
| 19:04 | francharb | in the end, it's like a random vote |
| 19:05 | rangi | but we also cant change that now |
| 19:05 | issues with the hosts, should come up before the voting starts | |
| 19:05 | jcamins | What's the problem with the host? |
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| 19:06 | cait | hey eythian |
| 19:06 | francharb | jcamins, it's not a "problem" |
| 19:06 | rangi | i dont think there is any, but just an example |
| 19:06 | but i think thats what the 3 months or so before the voting are for | |
| 19:06 | jcamins | I'm still able to access it. |
| 19:06 | francharb | it's more like saying 'good for you, everybody want to go' |
| 19:06 | jcamins | Wait, host as in "institution where KohaCon2013 might be held"? |
| 19:06 | francharb | but in the end "well, you have been picked randomly" |
| 19:06 | jcamins | Never mind. |
| 19:07 | * jcamins | got confused. |
| 19:07 | francharb | jcamins, yes |
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| 19:07 | jcamins | I thought you meant there was a problem with the server the survey was on. |
| 19:07 | francharb | ahah |
| 19:07 | nope | |
| 19:07 | cait | ok |
| 19:07 | I am still confused :) | |
| 19:07 | am I the only one? | |
| 19:07 | rangi | random vote? |
| 19:08 | that bit is confusing me | |
| 19:08 | francharb | but nengard seems to feel bad about the voters. but i just wanted to say that it's not a big deal |
| 19:08 | rangi | :) |
| 19:08 | francharb | and i would feel more bad for the host |
| 19:08 | because we cant say | |
| 19:08 | rangi | ahh yes |
| 19:08 | i agree | |
| 19:08 | francharb | "hey, everyboday want to go" |
| 19:08 | but only | |
| 19:08 | "hey guys, you've been picked randomly" | |
| 19:09 | so I would say, let's ask the hosts how they feel about it | |
| 19:10 | "randomly" in the way, that people didn't know how the voting worked... | |
| 19:11 | did I make myself clear? | |
| 19:11 | :) | |
| 19:11 | rangi | yep |
| 19:11 | francharb | :) |
| 19:11 | rangi | i just think restarting now, makes more mess |
| 19:12 | francharb | anyway, if not, just forget it ;) |
| 19:12 | * jcamins | doesn't care. |
| 19:12 | francharb | jcamins++ |
| 19:12 | :) | |
| 19:12 | jcamins | :) |
| 19:12 | rangi | to me, it would look like on no, argentian is winning, we better change the vote |
| 19:13 | on no = oh no | |
| 19:13 | and i didnt even vote for them :) | |
| 19:13 | francharb | :) |
| 19:14 | weird | |
| 19:14 | rangi | wherever it is, it will be great |
| 19:14 | francharb | madonna just poped up in my mind |
| 19:14 | :) | |
| 19:14 | rangi++ | |
| 19:15 | cait | rangi++ |
| 19:16 | * libsysguy | just wants to go for once |
| 19:16 | francharb | libsysguy, where are you from? |
| 19:16 | libsysguy | I want to go to hackfest actually |
| 19:16 | Texas | |
| 19:16 | rangi | wasnt someone organising a US user group thingy this year? or did that fall through? |
| 19:17 | lenora .. iirc | |
| 19:17 | libsysguy | i haven't heard anything out of it |
| 19:18 | jcamins | She was waiting on the fiscal year, I think. |
| 19:20 | rangi | cya |
| 19:20 | francharb | 0/ |
| 19:20 | rangi | (that was an ironic cya :) im not actually leaving) |
| 19:21 | francharb | :| |
| 19:21 | :) | |
| 19:21 | :D | |
| 19:21 | rangi | what other emails can i be grumpy at I wonder |
| 19:21 | cait | francharb: smile :) |
| 19:21 | francharb | If you look at it fast, it will get animated |
| 19:21 | ;) | |
| 19:21 | cait | hehe |
| 19:21 | I did | |
| 19:21 | drojf | rangi: you could give your address to rakesh |
| 19:21 | cait | francharb: my scrolling is broken again |
| 19:21 | wahanui | i already had it that way, cait. |
| 19:21 | cait | brb |
| 19:21 | jcamins | Hehe. |
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| 19:22 | francharb | her scrolling? |
| 19:22 | drojf | how does scrolling break? |
| 19:22 | francharb | cait, your scrolling? |
| 19:22 | cait | my window stopped scrolling down automatically |
| 19:22 | very annoying | |
| 19:22 | rangi | drojf-- # that idea is horrible!!!! |
| 19:22 | cait | huh? |
| 19:22 | what did I miss? | |
| 19:22 | drojf | lol |
| 19:22 | you wanted to be grumpy | |
| 19:22 | rangi | 07:21 < drojf> rangi: you could give your address to rakesh |
| 19:22 | jcamins | drojf++ # for helping |
| 19:22 | rangi | drojf++ # the mail to the list was great though |
| 19:22 | * jcamins | runs around shouting "I'm helping!!!" |
| 19:22 | drojf | :D |
| 19:23 | francharb | cait, unity scrolling is bad |
| 19:23 | I removed it | |
| 19:23 | jcamins | I found a WM that I was pretty happy with. |
| 19:23 | cait | not sure unitiy is to blame for problems in pidgin? |
| 19:23 | jcamins | I've forgotten which one. |
| 19:23 | It was not fvwm. | |
| 19:23 | cait: yup, probably. | |
| 19:23 | drojf | my pidgin scrolls nicely |
| 19:23 | rangi | i removed unity (well never installed it to be fair) |
| 19:23 | francharb | cait, the way the scrolling bar is diplayed |
| 19:24 | cait | ah |
| 19:24 | hm maybe | |
| 19:24 | I am trying out debian at work now | |
| 19:24 | rangi | "I am hungry" says ataraua |
| 19:24 | cait | in my koha vm |
| 19:24 | rangi | atarau too |
| 19:24 | cait | you should feed him :) |
| 19:24 | rangi | brb |
| 19:24 | francharb | once I updated my ubuntu, I will go back to gnome |
| 19:25 | I'm reading me and all I can think is that I need a break | |
| 19:25 | I forgot "of" somewhere | |
| 19:25 | will you be able to replace it? | |
| 19:26 | ;) | |
| 19:26 | see ya | |
| 19:27 | drojf | i like how 3% did not vote for rank 1 in the survey |
| 19:27 | or i'm misinterpreting the statistics | |
| 19:28 | francharb_afk | "we dont want any leader!" |
| 19:28 | "we wont vote for number 1" | |
| 19:28 | ;) | |
| 19:28 | cait | lol |
| 19:29 | go and take your break! | |
| 19:29 | drojf | lol |
| 19:34 | rangi | nope, you arent misinterpreting :) |
| 19:34 | w | |
| 19:34 | ahhh | |
| 19:34 | "we're number 2 we're number 2" | |
| 19:39 | jcamins and wizzyrea: wanna guess what laurel found in the shop and atarau is eating? | |
| 19:39 | cait | hope it's not caraway |
| 19:40 | wizzyrea | ummmmmmm fennel? |
| 19:40 | drojf | lol |
| 19:40 | wizzyrea | :D |
| 19:40 | fudge? | |
| 19:40 | wahanui | rumour has it fudge is the ambrosia of koha |
| 19:40 | drojf | hahahaha |
| 19:41 | jcamins | Peanut butter? |
| 19:41 | rangi | hehe no cait at all the fudge |
| 19:41 | cait | haka cereal? |
| 19:41 | rangi | shreddies |
| 19:41 | cait | rangi: :P |
| 19:41 | jcamins | Gnocchi? |
| 19:41 | wahanui | i heard Gnocchi was http://allrecipes.com//Recipe/[…]occhi/Detail.aspx |
| 19:41 | wizzyrea | :D |
| 19:41 | rangi | wow i cant type this morning |
| 19:41 | cait | what are shreddies? |
| 19:41 | rangi | some american cereal |
| 19:42 | jcamins | Never heard of it. |
| 19:42 | drojf | Shreddies Damen Brief €29.90. Bequeme, modische Unterwäsche, die dazu noch mit einem integrierten Aktivkohlefilter unangenehme Gerüche beseitigt - ideal für Menschen mit Magen- und Darmerkrankungen und chronischer Flatulenz. |
| 19:42 | francharb_afk | http://www.productwiki.com/upl[…]ost_shreddies.jpg |
| 19:42 | drojf | only funny for those that speak german |
| 19:42 | or use google translate | |
| 19:42 | rangi | francharb_afk is addicted to #koha ! |
| 19:42 | cait | drojf: eeew |
| 19:42 | rangi | :) |
| 19:42 | francharb_afk | rangi, looks like it |
| 19:42 | cait | rangi: he is missing us, can you blame him? |
| 19:42 | francharb_afk | ;) |
| 19:42 | wizzyrea | ! like Chex! |
| 19:43 | * wizzyrea | loves wheat chex. |
| 19:43 | francharb_afk | chex? |
| 19:43 | * cait | likes wheatabix |
| 19:43 | cait | does that count? |
| 19:43 | francharb_afk | cait, really? |
| 19:43 | cait | yeah? |
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| 19:44 | wizzyrea | http://www.foodandfunfromhome.[…]s/P/146-846-B.gif |
| 19:44 | drojf | @wunder berlin, germany |
| 19:44 | huginn | drojf: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is 22.5°C (9:42 PM CEST on July 05, 2012). Conditions: Light Thunderstorms and Rain. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: 20.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady). |
| 19:45 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 19:45 | drojf | weeeee |
| 19:45 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 18.2°C (9:40 PM CEST on July 05, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady). |
| 19:45 | cait | weeee :) |
| 19:45 | francharb_afk | when I was youngerand I tested wheatabix, they were the most boring cereals I ever had... |
| 19:45 | :) | |
| 19:45 | cait | francharb_afk: heh |
| 19:45 | francharb_afk | I should try again |
| 19:45 | cait | true |
| 19:45 | rangi | they still are |
| 19:45 | jcamins | I tried wheetabix recently. |
| 19:45 | francharb_afk | ahah |
| 19:45 | jcamins | Shari thought they must be better once you get older. |
| 19:45 | Nope. | |
| 19:45 | rangi | but good with fruit |
| 19:45 | you just cant eat them plain | |
| 19:45 | francharb_afk | jcamins, LOL |
| 19:46 | rangi | here they are called weetbix |
| 19:46 | kahu loves them | |
| 19:46 | francharb_afk | yeah, rangi, fruits and some wheatabix crumbs to make them crunchy |
| 19:46 | but not to much | |
| 19:46 | rangi | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyxJaeoY0-k |
| 19:47 | francharb_afk | ;) |
| 19:47 | rangi | nz 1990's |
| 19:47 | we were cheesy as hell | |
| 19:48 | francharb_afk | :) |
| 19:48 | rangi | https://www.youtube.com/watch?[…]c&feature=related <-- these are better |
| 19:48 | cait | kiwi kids... |
| 19:49 | now I got that in my head | |
| 19:49 | drojf | haha me too |
| 19:50 | kiwi kids, wheat somethingsomething. must. eat. weird. cereal. | |
| 19:50 | cait | lol |
| 19:50 | exactly! | |
| 19:51 | drojf | wow, impressively thundery, my thunderstorm |
| 19:51 | cait | oooh |
| 19:51 | mine is already over | |
| 19:51 | * cait | is jealous |
| 19:51 | drojf | :) |
| 19:53 | rangi | the barbeque one is my fave |
| 19:54 | mustard | rangi: did the earthquake a couple of days ago rattle your windows? |
| 19:55 | rangi | not really, sounded like a train tho |
| 19:57 | * wizzyrea | wants an impressively thundery thunderstorm |
| 19:57 | wizzyrea | @wunder lawrence ks |
| 19:57 | huginn | wizzyrea: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 38.1°C (2:57 PM CDT on July 05, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 27%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.91 in 1013 hPa (Falling). Heat advisory in effect until 7 PM CDT Friday... |
| 19:57 | * wizzyrea | sighs |
| 19:59 | drojf | you should definitely have some thunderstorm |
| 20:00 | cait | drojf: not sur eit's a good idea in kansas |
| 20:00 | drojf: in the end another poor witch ends up under a house! | |
| 20:00 | and children get lost on yellow brick roads | |
| 20:01 | francharb_afk | and I'm the one who needs a break? |
| 20:01 | ;) | |
| 20:01 | drojf | lol |
| 20:01 | * wizzyrea | giggles |
| 20:01 | cait | hey! |
| 20:01 | it#s a classi | |
| 20:01 | c | |
| 20:01 | wizzyrea | those are *tornadoes* |
| 20:01 | cait | ohok |
| 20:01 | francharb_afk | :) |
| 20:01 | wizzyrea | bit out of season for those, especially this year |
| 20:01 | cait | you can have a thunderstorm then |
| 20:02 | wizzyrea | maybe saturday/sunday |
| 20:02 | first time in 3 weeks we've had even the slightest chance of rain in the forecast | |
| 20:02 | mustard | @wunder 64506 |
| 20:02 | huginn | mustard: The current temperature in APRSWXNET St.Joseph MO US, Saint Joseph, Missouri is 35.6°C (2:34 PM CDT on July 05, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 35%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 29.91 in 1013 hPa (Falling). Heat advisory in effect until 7 PM CDT Saturday... |
| 20:02 | wizzyrea | nicer where you are |
| 20:02 | francharb_afk | @wunder lyon, france |
| 20:02 | huginn | francharb_afk: The current temperature in Lyon, France is 20.0°C (9:30 PM CEST on July 05, 2012). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Rising). |
| 20:02 | mustard | well, only slightly relatively :) |
| 20:02 | wizzyrea | very nice in france :) |
| 20:03 | francharb_afk | already the autumn in july... |
| 20:03 | wizzyrea | hm, you have more humidity than us - it probably actually feels hotter there |
| 20:04 | yea I suspect we are going to have an early fall, we had a super early sprint | |
| 20:04 | spring* | |
| 20:04 | francharb_afk | when they say humidity 73%, they mean that it's raining almost all the time |
| 20:04 | ;) | |
| 20:04 | wizzyrea | oh I meant in st joseph :) it's about 1.5 hours drive away from here |
| 20:04 | francharb_afk | ahah |
| 20:04 | :) | |
| 20:06 | * francharb_afk | is listenning to rihanna |
| 20:07 | francharb_afk | "'m Flying out to Pisa, just to get some pizza" |
| 20:07 | it's pure genius | |
| 20:07 | ;) | |
| 20:07 | mustard | This French item will make everyone feel cooler. http://www.perrier.com/thedrop/en.html |
| 20:07 | francharb_afk | \0/ |
| 20:09 | nengard | @wunder 19030 |
| 20:09 | huginn | nengard: The current temperature in Highland Park, Levittown, Pennsylvania is 38.3°C (4:09 PM EDT on July 05, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 35%. Dew Point: 20.0°C. Pressure: 29.75 in 1007 hPa (Falling). Excessive heat warning in effect until 8 PM EDT Saturday... |
| 20:10 | nengard | :( |
| 20:10 | mustard | I usually have a couple of bottles in the refrigerator, but it looks like I'm out. May have to run down to the store on my break. |
| 20:10 | francharb_afk | 38.3°C? |
| 20:10 | really? | |
| 20:10 | 0_0 | |
| 20:11 | mustard | It's been over 100°F for the past week here (I'm only 40km away from wizzyrea) |
| 20:11 | rangi | @wunder nzwn |
| 20:11 | huginn | rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 10.0°C (8:00 AM NZST on July 06, 2012). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady). |
| 20:14 | wajasu joined #koha | |
| 20:15 | * rangi | decides to go into work for a bit today, while the kids go to their grandparents, to catch up on some work |
| 20:16 | rangi | bbl |
| 20:32 | nengard left #koha | |
| 20:37 | Brooke joined #koha | |
| 20:37 | Brooke | o/ |
| 20:38 | drojf | hi Brooke |
| 20:38 | Brooke | :) |
| 20:39 | jcamins | Greetings. |
| 20:43 | libsysguy left #koha | |
| 20:45 | cait left #koha | |
| 21:00 | wajasu | hi |
| 21:00 | wahanui | hello, wajasu |
| 21:01 | francharb_afk | see ya |
| 21:01 | wajasu | i'm going to try to do a patch today. my people want to see diacritics in the label printer for pdf output. |
| 21:02 | * jcamins | hands wajasu the elephant gun. |
| 21:02 | Brooke joined #koha | |
| 21:05 | eythian joined #koha | |
| 21:06 | * wajasu | kicks off building my virgin VM dev environment |
| 21:07 | whilst simultaneously heads off to write a bug | |
| 21:08 | jcamins | wajasu: there's already a bug report for the diacritics in labels. |
| 21:09 | mtj | hmm, it's a very tricky unicode to pdf translation problem |
| 21:09 | jcamins | Very, very tricky. |
| 21:09 | mtj | i think its almost impossiible, currently :/ |
| 21:10 | wajasu | i have had a fix for over a year. i just need to probe it. |
| 21:10 | prove it. | |
| 21:10 | * wizzyrea | gets the popcorn |
| 21:10 | mtj | gotcha, very impressive! |
| 21:10 | wajasu | its a romance |
| 21:10 | mtj | oooh, i love romances! |
| 21:10 | wajasu | i mean slasher |
| 21:13 | mtj | wajasu: i'm quite curious to see how you did it |
| 21:16 | Guest2215 joined #koha | |
| 21:16 | Guest2215 | Brooke |
| 21:16 | you have stolen my name. | |
| 21:17 | Brooke | ha ha :P |
| 21:17 | Guest2215 | no really |
| 21:17 | * jcamins | wonders if Brooke is having a conversation with herself. |
| 21:17 | Brooke | have you considered an _ |
| 21:17 | Guest2215 | I despise _ |
| 21:17 | I would rather be Guest2215 | |
| 21:17 | * jcamins | is pretty sure that Brooke is Brooke. |
| 21:18 | Guest2215 | is Brooke registered with nickserv? |
| 21:18 | Brooke | yep |
| 21:18 | for like months now | |
| 21:18 | Guest2215 | I ask because my nick registration on this server appeared to expire, when I went mia for a couple years |
| 21:18 | and I got back and someone else had it :( | |
| 21:18 | jcamins | Brooke != Guest2215? |
| 21:18 | Guest2215 | and now I have found you. |
| 21:18 | you, the villain who registered my name | |
| 21:19 | Brooke | We can settle this with sabres if you'd like :) |
| 21:19 | 3 bouts of 15 best of 3 wins the nick? | |
| 21:20 | Guest2215 | I don't even own 15 sabres! |
| 21:20 | much less 45! | |
| 21:21 | * wizzyrea | refills the popcorn |
| 21:21 | munches | |
| 21:22 | * jcamins | has been assured that there are in fact two different people in that conversation. |
| 21:22 | chris_n` joined #koha | |
| 21:22 | * ibeardslee | readies the bandaids |
| 21:23 | Guest2215 | ooh, library software |
| 21:24 | Brooke | a yep |
| 21:24 | Guest2215 | no wonder you guys are cool |
| 21:24 | jcamins | Brooke is the only one of us who generally walks around with a sword. |
| 21:24 | I think. | |
| 21:24 | Brooke | thought Ian did on occasion as well |
| 21:25 | * wajasu | kohacloning |
| 21:25 | * wizzyrea | routinely walks around with light sabers, does that count?/ |
| 21:25 | * drojf | begins to wonder whether we have to redo all the kohacons because nobody ever knew how the voting works |
| 21:26 | Brooke | that does count wizzy |
| 21:26 | jcamins | drojf: yes! |
| 21:26 | One per month for the next decade! :D | |
| 21:27 | Guest2215 | well as I don't have a sabre |
| 21:27 | and Brooke is legit | |
| 21:27 | I guess I just have to find myself another name | |
| 21:27 | for now. *glare* | |
| 21:28 | jcamins | Wait, chris_n wanted the nick Brooke? |
| 21:28 | Guest2215 | yes |
| 21:28 | no? | |
| 21:28 | wahanui | no is failing unit tests |
| 21:28 | * jcamins | realizes that the last two digits are different. Never mind. |
| 21:28 | Brooke | you can use 00s for the os |
| 21:28 | Guest2215 | this may not be the last you see of me! |
| 21:29 | Guest2215 left #koha | |
| 21:29 | jcamins | I should stop reading three things simultaneously. I keep on missing key pieces of information. |
| 21:31 | JesseM left #koha | |
| 21:31 | rangi | back |
| 21:31 | Brooke | wb |
| 21:36 | mustard | I wanna be at the booootom of the list |
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| 21:43 | chris_n` joined #koha | |
| 21:52 | rangi | http://soundcloud.com/themagic[…]e-magician-memory |
| 21:54 | sekjal_mobile | hi, #koha. been away a couple days. what's up with the KohaCon 13 vote? |
| 21:55 | jcamins | sekjal_mobile: some people are unhappy, some people are happy, and some people don't care. |
| 21:55 | rangi | i think the consensus has been that since some people didnt understand how it worked, they are being allowed to recast their vote |
| 21:55 | * jcamins | falls into the final category. |
| 21:55 | * wizzyrea | bops about |
| 21:56 | sekjal_mobile | ah... polls are still open, right? |
| 21:56 | rangi | i dont think anyone is happy, i just dont want to shit all over the nigerians who have a few hours of internet a day to appease 1stworldproblems |
| 21:56 | yes until the 17th | |
| 21:56 | sekjal_mobile | great. all the kefuffle on list had me thinking it was already tallied |
| 22:02 | ok, back to the highway. back on normal schedule tomorrow. | |
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| 22:03 | Brooke | I'm mostly happy with it. I'd be unhappy if folks indicated that they wanted to vote for summat and couldn't. Most of the complaints I've seen have been we've overvoted, not under. |
| 22:03 | chris_n` joined #koha | |
| 22:04 | Brooke | it's not like overvoting can really hurt a preference election, anyway. |
| 22:05 | chris_n` joined #koha | |
| 22:07 | wajasu | should i branch off master, or a specific version? for a patch |
| 22:08 | jcamins | wajasu: master. Always. |
| 22:08 | wajasu | ok |
| 22:09 | rangi | yep, unless it jcamins or I have said something like |
| 22:09 | 'this patch in master wont apply to 3.8.x, can you please send one for 3.8.x' | |
| 22:10 | jcamins | Right. |
| 22:10 | rangi | we do that occassionally on a bug report in bugzilla |
| 22:10 | jcamins | In that case you should follow the instructions. :) |
| 22:10 | wajasu | ok. |
| 22:10 | rangi | that is quite rare though |
| 22:14 | wajasu | i'm getting my koha-dev environment set up, then will confirm bug exists, write bug report, branch bugXXXX, make fix, confirm fix, gen patch, email patch to list, attach patch to bug report, label bug "NEEDS SIGNOFF" |
| 22:15 | jcamins | Right. |
| 22:16 | rangi | perfect! |
| 22:16 | it will be your first patch eh? | |
| 22:18 | wajasu | 2nd. the last time i tried, it wasn't taken. but that was over a year ago. |
| 22:18 | rangi | ahh |
| 22:18 | is it still there? | |
| 22:18 | i mean was it a did not apply problem or .. failed qa one? | |
| 22:18 | wajasu | now i have a virgin environment, and can be sure it is like what you see. |
| 22:18 | rangi | perfect |
| 22:19 | you can be number 187 | |
| 22:19 | drojf | hm. something's missing |
| 22:19 | someone | |
| 22:20 | rangi | ? |
| 22:23 | drojf | nevermind, it is not his time yet |
| 22:24 | wajasu | i'm just going to grab a record from the LOC z3950 server with a diacritic, and document that in the bug, so a fresh install should be sufficient. |
| 22:25 | jcamins | wajasu: if you make it support Unicode (like, really), I'm sure I could be persuaded to test it with a non-Latin character set. |
| 22:26 | wajasu | Template:Plugin:HtmlToText is new |
| 22:26 | jcamins | Yes. |
| 22:26 | Also Text::Unaccent. | |
| 22:31 | wajasu | Hmm. what is the htmltotext deb package called. i got the unaccent one. |
| 22:32 | rangi | libtemplate-plugin-htmltotext-perl ? |
| 22:32 | wajasu | ok |
| 22:32 | jcamins | It's in the k-c repo, not Debian standard. |
| 22:35 | wajasu | that worked. i have the k-c in my vm :) |
| 22:35 | * wajasu | webinstaller finished |
| 22:36 | now confiming bug | |
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| 22:45 | rangi | sweet |
| 22:53 | wajasu | ok grabbed LOC record and exported PDF label and see: |
| 22:53 | 1150Jahre Marköbel, 850 Jahre Baiersröderhof | |
| 22:53 | 3886542378 | |
| 22:53 | Books | |
| 22:53 | 943/.416 | |
| 22:53 | wahanui | 2266.82692307692 |
| 22:53 | * wajasu | now writing bug. |
| 22:54 | so i can hava bugXXXX number to branch with | |
| 22:54 | rangi | mtj++ |
| 22:55 | jcamins | Yay! |
| 22:55 | rangi | wajasu++ |
| 23:00 | liw++ | |
| 23:00 | koha-upgrade-schema rules! | |
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| 23:18 | wajasu | is there a goog way to determine the build date for my git clone, or just reference koha-common 3.8.1 or such? |
| 23:18 | for the bug report | |
| 23:18 | rangi | hmm? |
| 23:19 | jcamins | It doesn't matter. |
| 23:19 | You should always keep your clone up to date. | |
| 23:19 | (for development) | |
| 23:20 | And as for the version in the bug report, you just mark it master. | |
| 23:20 | wajasu | yes but when someone read the bug a few months later, how will they know what version/hash i saw the bug? |
| 23:20 | jcamins | It'll have the date. |
| 23:20 | wajasu | ok |
| 23:21 | mtj | wajasu: i try to paste the commit hash, with my bug-report |
| 23:26 | oops, i mean - i try to include the commit hash that my patch was created from | |
| 23:26 | wajasu | ok will do |
| 23:27 | should it be critical? or major? or blocker. | |
| 23:28 | mtj | prolly just 'normal' or 'trivial' ? |
| 23:28 | wajasu | i'll put normal, someone else can change it. |
| 23:29 | rangi | hmm so |
| 23:29 | if i have | |
| 23:29 | wajasu | its realted to bug2246, should i add it to the cc list? |
| 23:30 | rangi | <span class="results_summary"><span class="label">Type: </span><img src="/opac-tmpl/prog/famfamfam/silk/book.png" alt="book" title="book" class="materialtype"/> Book </span> |
| 23:30 | wajasu: yes please | |
| 23:30 | if i have that html .. how do i hide it with jquery or css ? | |
| 23:30 | my brain is not working | |
| 23:32 | jcamins | Ummm... |
| 23:32 | jQuery. | |
| 23:33 | mtj | $(. results_summary).hide() |
| 23:33 | rangi | ahh i forgot to mention there are lots of results_summary |
| 23:33 | mtj | but then add a 'child' selector too :/ |
| 23:33 | rangi | ah right ta |
| 23:33 | * rangi | takes a crack |
| 23:35 | * wajasu | Bug8375 is what I'm working on |
| 23:37 | mtj | $(.results_summary .label).hide() |
| 23:38 | jcamins | $('.materialtype').parent().hide(); |
| 23:38 | rangi | ohh |
| 23:38 | jquery wars! | |
| 23:38 | * jcamins | thought the question was "which?" |
| 23:38 | mtj | all results_summary elements, with a child element of a 'label' class? |
| 23:39 | jcamins | mtj: every single piece of information on the page has the class results_summary. |
| 23:39 | rangi | jcamins: that works perfectly! |
| 23:39 | jcamins | You can't use results_summary or label, or the solution would be CSS. :) |
| 23:39 | We really ought to fix that. | |
| 23:39 | rangi | yeah too many of them |
| 23:39 | *nod* | |
| 23:41 | mtj | ah, yep - i was waaay off :/ trying to hide the 'results_summary' elements |
| 23:45 | wajasu | i need the CHI, CHI:Driver:Memcached, DateTime:TimeZone deb package names. adding -perl didn't help |
| 23:46 | jcamins | wajasu: they're not all available from debian.k-c.org. |
| 23:46 | The CHI ones are completely optional, though. | |
| 23:46 | DateTime::TimeZone should be libdatetime-timezone-perl. | |
| 23:46 | wajasu | ok. thx. |
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