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| 00:01 | papa joined #koha | |
| 00:02 | mtompset | Cache/Memcached/Fast.pm missing |
| 00:02 | jcamins | Hrm. |
| 00:02 | There's a patch for that, I think. | |
| 00:02 | sudo apt-get install libcache-memcached-perl | |
| 00:03 | mtompset | yep. |
| 00:03 | doing that. | |
| 00:03 | i hate man-db triggers. They are so slow! | |
| 00:06 | dcook joined #koha | |
| 00:06 | dcook | Allo allo |
| 00:06 | jcamins | o/ |
| 00:07 | mtompset | Greetings from yesterday. ;) |
| 00:07 | dcook | Hi mtompset! |
| 00:07 | jcamins | mtompset: isn't it tomorrow there, too. |
| 00:07 | dcook | Quick question...has anyone else been unable to alter marc bibliographic frameworks in 3.8? |
| 00:07 | mtompset | I define a day by sleeping at night. ;) |
| 00:07 | No sleep, no next day. :) | |
| 00:07 | jcamins | dcook: never tried it. |
| 00:08 | mtompset | Sorry. Neither have I. |
| 00:09 | jcamins | And I'm on 3.6 at the moment. |
| 00:09 | mtompset | Technically it is already tomorrow now, but since I haven't sleep, I'm still in yesterday. |
| 00:09 | 3.6.3 here. | |
| 00:09 | dcook | Dinger. Thanks anyways |
| 00:09 | Where are you mtompset? | |
| 00:10 | mtompset | I'm in the Philippines. |
| 00:10 | Yourself? | |
| 00:10 | dcook | Australia, so I'm in the future as well |
| 00:10 | mtompset | Yes, but you probably slept, so I am experiencing localized time dilation. ;) |
| 00:10 | * dcook | chuckles |
| 00:11 | dcook | I had my supper around midnight, so it worked out in the end |
| 00:12 | mtompset | See, you experienced some time dilation too, just not as drastic as I. |
| 00:12 | I'll be experiencing an extremely rapid progression into today in the next couple of hours. :) | |
| 00:13 | dcook | Did you get that problem resolved last night at least? |
| 00:14 | mtompset | Most of it, I think so. |
| 00:14 | C4::Barcodes::PrinterConfig.pm | |
| 00:14 | There were some uninitialized value warnings in the tests. | |
| 00:15 | Waylon joined #koha | |
| 00:15 | mtompset | C4::Labels::Labels.pm |
| 00:15 | Waylon | hiya all. |
| 00:16 | mtompset | C4::Languages.pm |
| 00:16 | Greetings again, Waylon. | |
| 00:16 | Waylon | Okay, boss has wrote as a task: upgrade to koha 3.8 and adapt. WooT! |
| 00:16 | So, now i need to look at koha 3.8's code. get to know it. | |
| 00:16 | mtompset | NICE! |
| 00:16 | dcook | What the... |
| 00:16 | wahanui | the is a stop word |
| 00:17 | dcook | Hi Waylon. I'm doing the same thing ;) |
| 00:17 | Welcome to hell... | |
| 00:17 | Actually, it's not that bad. | |
| 00:17 | Waylon | dcook, your upgrading from koha 3.0.0pre2? |
| 00:18 | jcamins | dcook: you're still better off than you would have been if you were trying to stick with the hacked up version. |
| 00:18 | dcook | Mmm 3.0 and 3.2 |
| 00:18 | mtompset | C4::Ris::intype |
| 00:18 | dcook | hacked up version? |
| 00:18 | As in our hacked up version? | |
| 00:18 | jcamins | mtompset: you can ignore the warnings about uninitialized variables. |
| 00:19 | dcook: well, I don't know if you have a hacked up version, but that's what Waylon's been battling. | |
| 00:19 | Waylon | yup |
| 00:19 | you probably have a straightforward upgrade to look forward to, dcook | |
| 00:19 | mtompset | C4::Search::PazPar2 |
| 00:19 | dcook | Not in the slightest, lol |
| 00:20 | jcamins | mtompset: the warnings are nothing to worry about. |
| 00:20 | dcook | We made about 300-400 changes to the code |
| 00:20 | Waylon | ahhh |
| 00:20 | mtompset | Are you sure? |
| 00:20 | dcook | Fortunately, we're not going to try cutting all of them across, but it's still a bit of a headache |
| 00:20 | jcamins | mtompset: yes. |
| 00:20 | Waylon | git commited them? |
| 00:20 | dcook | Sadly not |
| 00:20 | Definitely the policy going forward though | |
| 00:20 | There just wasn't the time or staff before | |
| 00:21 | Waylon | well... did you import cherrypicked koha patches? |
| 00:21 | * jcamins | still doesn't understand that reasoning. |
| 00:22 | mtompset | do I need to sudo make install or will make install be fine for a dev install? |
| 00:23 | dcook | Waylon: I'm still not very familiar with how to fully use git. I haven't cherrypicked but I'm not sure about anyone else |
| 00:23 | jcamins | mtompset: just make install, I think. |
| 00:23 | git? | |
| 00:23 | wahanui | hmmm... git is http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Control_Using_Git |
| 00:23 | jcamins | dcook: read that. |
| 00:24 | Every single thing I've read about git is linked to on that page, and I've been told that I'm now one of the "git experts" on #koha. | |
| 00:24 | dcook | Intriguing |
| 00:24 | I have read it before, but I still find that I don't understand the conceptual structure of git | |
| 00:24 | Waylon | hmm.. well. then, you could possibly figure out what version of koha you have, and git commit everything youve changed in one blob... then upgrade via git? jcamins ? |
| 00:25 | jcamins | Waylon: no. |
| 00:25 | Waylon | I can't do that because of the forementioned cherrypicking. |
| 00:25 | jcamins | Waylon: well, sort of. |
| 00:25 | * Waylon | nods. |
| 00:25 | dcook | We are coming off of 3.0 and 3.2, so all the template changes are virtually useless. Plus, there are a lot of hacky changes that we don't really want to bring forward anyway |
| 00:25 | jcamins | You *could*, but it wouldn't be worth it. |
| 00:25 | * dcook | is scowling at the Marc Bibliographic Framework in 3.8 |
| 00:25 | jcamins | ... and the upgrade past 3.4 is going to be painful. |
| 00:26 | dcook: I'm testing that now. | |
| 00:26 | dcook | Sweet. Thanks, jcamins. |
| 00:26 | jcamins | What am I trying to do? |
| 00:26 | Waylon | whats wrong with the marc framework, dcook? |
| 00:26 | dcook | Change the subfield structure of any framework |
| 00:26 | wahanui | dcook: that doesn't look right |
| 00:26 | wahanui joined #koha | |
| 00:26 | dcook | I change the mandatory flag and the hidden status, but I see no changes when I edit or make a new record |
| 00:27 | The changes are written to the database, but Koha doesn't seem to pick it up... | |
| 00:27 | jcamins | dcook: it's working properly. |
| 00:27 | You should shut down memcached on your development machine. | |
| 00:28 | sudo service memcached stop | |
| 00:28 | dcook | I was thinking that it might be a memcached issue :/ |
| 00:29 | While stopping it might solve the problem now, wouldn't this still be an issue going forward? | |
| 00:30 | jcamins | If you change your frameworks often, yes. |
| 00:30 | However, if you do that, you're doing something wrong. | |
| 00:30 | dcook | Makes sense |
| 00:30 | Yet... | |
| 00:30 | I just wanted to make the 863 appear in my Serial framework | |
| 00:31 | jcamins | So, restart memcached. |
| 00:31 | dcook | If I can't make one change one time, that seems to be a fairly big impairment |
| 00:31 | All right. I'll give it a whirl. | |
| 00:31 | jcamins | dcook: you can, there's just a lag. |
| 00:33 | mtompset | How much RAM is in your koha installations, folks? |
| 00:33 | I was telling my supervisor that 512MB is too small, and he wanted to know what size people were generally using. | |
| 00:33 | melia left #koha | |
| 00:33 | mtompset | Does the Koha documentation suggest a minimum? |
| 00:34 | jcamins | mtompset: it doesn't suggest a minimum, but I use 1GB. |
| 00:34 | Well, actually, I use a good deal more than 1GB. | |
| 00:35 | But I'd consider that the minimum for a production server. | |
| 00:35 | mtompset | OK VM is rebooted and ready to make install. |
| 00:35 | I figure mysqldump size * 2 round up should be minimum. | |
| 00:36 | jcamins | mtompset: I'm not sure that will work for either large databases or small databases. |
| 00:36 | dcook | Good call, jcamins. Do you know what kind of lagtime we're talking about? |
| 00:36 | jcamins | dcook: 10 minutes. |
| 00:37 | dcook | Ahh. That's considerably better than what I imagined. |
| 00:42 | Wonderful. Thanks again, jcamins, for helping me out on that one. | |
| 00:45 | jcamins | dcook: you're welcome. |
| 00:46 | mtompset | jcamins++ |
| 00:48 | dcook? How much ram is on your koha server? | |
| 00:49 | It seems that the make install worked. | |
| 00:49 | dcook | Good question, mtompset. I don't handle any of the server administration, so I'm not sure. |
| 00:49 | mtompset | if you have a command prompt. |
| 00:49 | free -m | |
| 00:50 | for debian and ubuntu at least. | |
| 00:53 | dcook | Hmmm |
| 00:54 | It says 12GB for total Mem | |
| 00:56 | It's a pretty active server, mtompset. over 11GB of that seems to be in use | |
| 00:59 | mtompset | Thanks for the feedback. |
| 00:59 | dcook | No worries |
| 01:03 | Have a good one | |
| 01:08 | jcamins | Hm. |
| 01:08 | I need updated caching code. | |
| 01:09 | dcook | Sorry? |
| 01:10 | jcamins | dcook: oh, I'm cherry-picking caching code back onto my 3.6.x-based branch, and I'd really like better caching for sysprefs. |
| 01:14 | dcook | Ahh. Alas, I'm no help there, jcamins. I have been pondering about sysprefs quite a bit lately though. I find it odd that they seem to be passed in different ways sometimes. |
| 01:14 | Waylon | wow.. how many records do you do, on your koha server, dcook? |
| 01:14 | dcook | Also a good question |
| 01:15 | That server runs multiple instances, but I would estimate around a million | |
| 01:15 | Total | |
| 01:17 | Actually, I'm probably off on that, Waylon. I have no idea. | |
| 01:31 | mtj | hi all - does this work for anyone, on firefox ?-> https://twitter.com/about/reso[…]ts/widget_profile |
| 01:32 | i get a 'o.styleSheet is undefined' error, on FF :/ | |
| 01:32 | jcamins | I have no idea what it is doing. |
| 01:33 | But it seems to work fine. | |
| 01:33 | mtj | do you successfully get a 'twitter' window, on that page? |
| 01:33 | right side of screen | |
| 01:33 | jcamins | Yes I do. |
| 01:33 | mtj | ok :) wot verzion of FF? |
| 01:34 | jcamins | Latest. |
| 01:34 | It just updated itself. | |
| 01:34 | mtj | (i'm on 13.0.1, osx) |
| 01:34 | i guess you are too :) | |
| 01:34 | jcamins | I do have noscript installed. |
| 01:35 | I temporarily enabled the scripts. | |
| 01:36 | mtj | meh, thats my error -> https://dev.twitter.com/discussions/8498 :/ |
| 01:37 | jcamins | Wait, I just released 3.6.6. |
| 01:37 | Time to merge that in. | |
| 01:38 | Waylon | ohkay, as a developer of 3.0.. what do i need to know about 3.8's coding style/conventions |
| 01:38 | ? | |
| 01:38 | like.. 3.8 uses TT? | |
| 01:38 | jcamins | coding guidelines? |
| 01:38 | wahanui | coding guidelines are http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Coding_Guidelines |
| 01:38 | jcamins | ^^ :D |
| 01:39 | No real point in testing 3.6.5.4, if I'm merging in 3.6.6. | |
| 01:41 | dcook | I really wish I would've looked at those guidelines sooner. |
| 01:41 | jcamins | dcook: uh-oh. hadn't seen 'em before? |
| 01:42 | dcook | Nope. I just used other people's patches as a guideline |
| 01:42 | I've adopted most of these conventions as a result, but it's good to see them explicit liike this, jcamins | |
| 01:42 | jcamins | Ah. |
| 01:42 | We have a syntax error in master, don't we? | |
| 01:42 | dcook | ? |
| 01:42 | jcamins | misc/cronjobs/check_url.pl |
| 01:43 | Try running perl -c misc/cronjobs/check_url.pl for me? | |
| 01:44 | mtj | woo! , created a new FF profile, twitter widget works now?! |
| 01:47 | dcook | jcamins, it looks like 3.8 has check-url.pl rather than check_url.pl. That said, what am I looking for? |
| 01:48 | syntax error at misc/cronjobs/check-url.pl line 168, near "$agent;" syntax error at misc/cronjobs/check-url.pl line 170, near ")" | |
| 01:49 | Semi-colon rather than a comma? | |
| 01:49 | jcamins | dcook: yes, that's what I was wondering about. |
| 01:49 | Thanks. | |
| 01:49 | * jcamins | grumbles about broken master. |
| 01:50 | dcook | In this instance, what's the best way to proceed? Wait for a patch? |
| 01:50 | Or make one, but I admit that I'm a bit focused.. | |
| 01:51 | jcamins | dcook: fix it. I actually don't need the script, I just was doing some release maintaining. |
| 01:52 | I'll post a fix in a bit. | |
| 01:53 | Maybe. | |
| 01:53 | Clearly no one has used that script in two months. | |
| 01:53 | dcook | Good call |
| 01:54 | jcamins | Possibly more... I didn't actually look to see when it was pushed. |
| 01:55 | dcook | Since you're a git guru, could you tell me a bit more about how the fix should be handled? |
| 01:55 | jcamins | Easy peasy. |
| 01:55 | First, you report a bug. | |
| 01:56 | dcook | I don't think that I've changed my 3.8 git since my install...should I rebase and then commit this change |
| 01:56 | * jcamins | will do it while explaining. |
| 01:56 | * dcook | cheers |
| 01:56 | jcamins | You're developing on 3.8? |
| 01:56 | Don't ever do that. | |
| 01:56 | *Ever*. | |
| 01:56 | Develop on master. | |
| 01:56 | dcook | I'm not sure that I follow |
| 01:56 | jcamins | Only. |
| 01:56 | Current development is done on the master branch. | |
| 01:57 | The 3.8 branch is a "stable" branch which contains only those fixes that rangi considers safe. | |
| 01:57 | dcook | Mmm, I follow you now |
| 01:57 | jcamins | If you develop on 3.8, you'll still have to rebase and try to integrate your work into master, or you'll be little better off than you are now. |
| 01:57 | So, here's how we rescue this: | |
| 01:57 | dcook | I call it my 3.8 git, but I develop from the master |
| 01:57 | jcamins | Oh, okay then. |
| 01:57 | Nothing to worry about. | |
| 01:58 | However, it's always a good idea to rebase against latest master when developing. | |
| 01:58 | * dcook | has a background in English literature and Library Studies. He's only been coding since last October. |
| 01:58 | jcamins | So you do your work, commit it, and then, instead of doing git pull, you do git fetch && git rebase origin/master |
| 01:58 | oleonard has a nice blog post on this... | |
| 01:58 | dcook | git fetch and rebase after the commit? |
| 01:59 | jcamins | dcook: http://www.myacpl.org/koha/?p=558 |
| 01:59 | Waylon: http://www.myacpl.org/koha/?p=558 | |
| 01:59 | dcook: right. | |
| 01:59 | dcook: you should have one branch for each feature you are working on. | |
| 01:59 | If that is not the way you have it set up, it is time to change your setup to match that. | |
| 02:02 | Okay, returning to that bug: | |
| 02:02 | Step 1: I file a bug. | |
| 02:02 | Bug 8333 | |
| 02:02 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8333 major, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, ASSIGNED , Syntax error in misc/check-url.pl |
| 02:02 | jcamins | Step 2: create a branch for my development. |
| 02:02 | > git checkout -b bug_8333 kc/master | |
| 02:03 | Hm. Fix is in master, not 3.6. | |
| 02:03 | If it weren't in master, I would make the change, commit the result, then attach the patch to the bug. | |
| 02:05 | * dcook | listens |
| 02:05 | jcamins | And that's it. :) |
| 02:05 | dcook | So when did you fetch and rebase there? |
| 02:05 | According to Owen's blog, it looks like he does it before and after doing a change | |
| 02:05 | jcamins | Right. |
| 02:06 | I keep master up-to-date pretty much all the time. | |
| 02:07 | dcook | So, git fetch downloads all of the changes |
| 02:07 | jcamins | Right. |
| 02:07 | dcook | rebase then merges the downloads into the master branch? |
| 02:07 | jcamins | Then git checkout -b bug_whatever origin/master gets the latest version. |
| 02:09 | * dcook | ponders |
| 02:09 | jcamins | rebase is to combine the current changes in master into your current branch, and then put your changes at the end. |
| 02:11 | * jcamins | calls it a night. |
| 02:11 | dcook | Thanks for all the help, jcasmins |
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| 02:47 | Waylon | if i have changes that im not going to commit back to the community, but i use myself, what do i do? |
| 02:48 | same pattern of branch and rebase or is one branch okay in that situation? | |
| 02:54 | dcook | I admit that I've been pondering the same thing. |
| 02:55 | Actually, if you're not going to commit them, why change your git at all? | |
| 02:56 | This coming from a git newb, of course | |
| 03:01 | libsysguy joined #koha | |
| 03:03 | Waylon | so you can easily rebase, dcook? |
| 03:04 | and know what you've done. | |
| 03:04 | other developers come along, can do stuff. | |
| 03:08 | libsysguy left #koha | |
| 03:37 | dcook | Makes sense. I'm not familiar enough with git to know how to track things. |
| 03:38 | Right now, I'm trying to figure out how to re-submit a patch for 7839... | |
| 03:38 | I've made the changes that Paul suggested, re-added the Serials.pm and routing-lists.pl files, but when I create a patch, none of my changes are evidenced :/ | |
| 03:45 | Tried git reset HEAD^1 routing-lists.pl and git reset HEAD^1 Serials.pm. That seems to work. I suppose I'll see how it goes... | |
| 03:48 | cjh | if you have local changes in git you can 'git stash' to store them away and take the files back to the branch version |
| 03:48 | then git pull | |
| 03:48 | and then 'git stash pop' to apply your changes over the top again | |
| 03:49 | having them in another branch or a patch could also be useful if things get messy | |
| 03:51 | dcook | :S |
| 03:51 | cjh | can also use 'git stash apply' to keep the changes in the stash and just appy them, quite a neat tool |
| 03:52 | dcook | I didn't really follow any of that. I had made my original changes in a branch |
| 03:53 | So I went back to that branch, rebased, fixed the code, unstaged the changed files, re-staged them, and ran the commit command | |
| 03:53 | cjh | git stash is for saving and restoring unstaged (and uncommited) changes. |
| 03:54 | dcook | Wouldn't those unstaged/uncommitted changes just stay in that separate branch? |
| 03:54 | cjh | you cant switch branches when you have unstaged/uncommited changes |
| 03:55 | dcook | Mmmm, I see I see |
| 03:56 | So the idea is that you're working on one branch and you're done of the moment, so git stash, so that you can move to a different branch and work on another project? | |
| 03:57 | cjh | yes :) |
| 03:57 | dcook | Nice! |
| 03:57 | cjh | and the stash is shared across branches, so you can 'bring them with you' |
| 03:57 | dcook | Could you tell me more about how git commit works? |
| 03:57 | Ahh, that could also be handy | |
| 03:57 | cjh | what in particular would you like to know? |
| 03:57 | dcook | I staged my files and committed them. Does that mean that they're just committed to my git repository? |
| 03:58 | cjh | yes, git can do almost everything locally |
| 03:58 | dcook | And that the way to update the official Koha git is to e-mail/post that patch file |
| 03:58 | cjh | pull, push and fetch are teh commands that do things with the remote server. |
| 03:58 | checkout, add, commit and most other commands are local only (and you then use push to share them with the server) | |
| 03:58 | dcook: yes, when using git with koha you cant push | |
| 03:59 | dcook | Perfect :) |
| 03:59 | cjh | so you add, commit and then make a patch |
| 03:59 | usually uploaded to bugs.koha-community.org | |
| 03:59 | dcook | Thanks for the information :) |
| 03:59 | That really helps put things more in perspective | |
| 04:00 | cjh | dcook: if you are working with the koha git it is set up so that you cant do any damage so dont worry :) |
| 04:00 | dcook | I'm just a bit of a control freak, so I want to know which data exists in which place :) |
| 04:00 | cjh | I know what you mean :) |
| 04:01 | the idea of accidentally sharing some half finished work is scary :) | |
| 04:01 | dcook | Very true |
| 04:01 | wahanui | I know. That's why I said it. |
| 04:01 | cjh | heh |
| 04:01 | * dcook | chuckles |
| 04:01 | Waylon | just siege testing my live server.... zebra isn't showing above 40% io usage. |
| 04:01 | dcook | The past few days are the first time that I've used IRC in over 10 years.. |
| 04:01 | Waylon | yet there is still timeouts |
| 04:02 | so yea.. the timeouts have nothing to do with zebra i think. | |
| 04:02 | its just koha being slow. | |
| 04:03 | interesting.. zebra is using alot of cpu. | |
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| 04:12 | dcook | Now that I think about it...how would you have multiple commits on one branch? |
| 04:27 | mtj | Waylon: your system does seem a little slow |
| 04:28 | have you thought about getting a newer ver. of zebra? | |
| 04:28 | Waylon | whats latest? |
| 04:28 | wahanui | well, latest is 3.6.4 |
| 04:28 | Waylon | ... |
| 04:28 | mtj | pass? |
| 04:28 | Waylon | zebra? |
| 04:28 | wahanui | i think zebra is a fielded free text indexing and retrieval engine with a Z39.50 front-end. You can use any compatible, commercial, or freeware Z39.50 client to access data stored in Zebra. or the search engine koha uses |
| 04:29 | mtj | wat u got? |
| 04:29 | asonxen1:~/g/soba1$ dpkg -l|grep zeb |
|
| 04:29 | ii idzebra-2.0 2.0.50-1indexdata | |
| 04:29 | Waylon | 2.0.52 is latest |
| 04:29 | i have 2.0.43 | |
| 04:30 | mtj | ok, not tooo old... |
| 04:31 | ive never seen a slow koha box , where zebra has been the problem | |
| 04:32 | you have some mods to your zebra config, for arabic too, yeah? | |
| 04:32 | Waylon | icu.xml mods i think |
| 04:33 | mtj | see, if you want a real sanity test.... |
| 04:33 | dump your bib+items out as marc, and load them into a shiny new 3.8 | |
| 04:34 | then siege-test both, compare the results | |
| 04:34 | Waylon | oh also.. how does plack starman do virtuhosts? |
| 04:35 | mtj | then show the performance increase to your boss, as a justification to upgrade |
| 04:35 | it doesnt | |
| 04:35 | Waylon | hmm |
| 04:35 | mtj | afaik, thats a job for apache |
| 04:36 | Waylon | right. so still need apache in my case. |
| 04:36 | mtj | or nginx , or whatever httpd you put in-front of it |
| 04:37 | Waylon | plack only works via its own tcp port? or can apache and plack comm over unix socket? |
| 04:37 | or whatever? | |
| 04:37 | wahanui | rumour has it whatever is most appropriate for the situation |
| 04:37 | mtj | yeah, probably |
| 04:37 | Waylon | which? |
| 04:37 | wahanui | which is most stable version |
| 04:39 | mtj | ... have a guess which part of the statement i was referring too ;) |
| 04:39 | cjh | dcook_away: multiples commits on one branch are possible, if you type git log it will show you all the commits of your current branch. |
| 04:40 | mtj | Waylon: ive only used plack with apache, and via tcp |
| 04:41 | Waylon | ahh |
| 04:41 | Plack::App::Apache::ActionWrapper - Wrapper for Apache2 Action directive for running PSGI apps on shared hosting with FastCGI | |
| 04:41 | mtj | yep, there you go... |
| 04:41 | Waylon | so.. whats FastCGI? |
| 04:42 | nevermind. | |
| 04:42 | Plack::Handler::Apache2 - Apache 2.0 handlers to run PSGI application | |
| 04:42 | ah.. for mod_perl | |
| 04:42 | koha 3.8 is mod perl safe? | |
| 04:43 | mtj | almost - the opac code looks to be safe - staff has some small bugs to be sorted |
| 04:44 | gotta scoot now... | |
| 04:44 | Waylon | ahh.. |
| 04:45 | FastCgiExternalServer /virtual/filename/fcgi -socket /path/to/my/socket and plackup -s FCGI --listen /path/to/my/socket --nproc 10 /path/to/my/script.psgi | |
| 04:45 | mtj | dpavlin's lib is running staff and opac with plack, on prod |
| 04:47 | Waylon | hmmm |
| 04:47 | interesting. | |
| 04:47 | wahanui | interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad |
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| 05:02 | cait | hi #koha |
| 05:04 | Oak | hello cait ! |
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| 05:04 | sandeepbhavsar | hi all |
| 05:05 | Good Morning | |
| 05:05 | cait | hi Oak :) |
| 05:05 | Oak | :) |
| 05:05 | cait | good morning sandeepbhavsar |
| 05:05 | sandeepbhavsar | I have just gone through the past messages of "MARC Import problem" |
| 05:05 | and found that 20MB is the maximum limit to import data through web interface | |
| 05:06 | is it true | |
| 05:06 | because mine file size is 21MB | |
| 05:06 | and struggling to import the data from last 2 days | |
| 05:07 | please help | |
| 05:10 | cait | you can use command line jobs or maybe split your file up into smaller files |
| 05:11 | sandeepbhavsar | can you guide about how can i use commandline step by step |
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| 05:28 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha |
| 05:28 | Hey, Oak, you there? | |
| 05:29 | Oak | yup |
| 05:29 | greetings mtompset | |
| 05:29 | mtompset | How much memory do you have on your koha server? |
| 05:30 | Oak | 2GB :-| |
| 05:30 | mtompset | how much memory is free? |
| 05:30 | "free -m" should help answer that. :) | |
| 05:31 | Oak | oho, i don't have Linux installed on my new laptop now... I use SSH to connect to my server. I'm downloading Debian right now... |
| 05:32 | mtompset | Just SSH over, and type 'free -m' |
| 05:32 | It will show total, used, free memory in megabytes. | |
| 05:32 | If you have windows, why not use putty? | |
| 05:33 | http://www.chiark.greenend.org[…]tty/download.html | |
| 05:33 | Oak | oh well, i'll install firessh now and let you knoe |
| 05:33 | okay i'll use putty | |
| 05:35 | mtompset: total: 1961, used: 664, free: 1297 | |
| 05:40 | mtompset | Thanks... |
| 05:41 | Out of curiosity... Does your koha server run anything other than koha? | |
| 05:41 | And how many items does your DB have? | |
| 05:46 | Have fun with the Debian install, Oak. | |
| 05:46 | Oak | mtompset: the DB has around 520 items |
| 05:47 | and the system runs nothing except Koha... | |
| 05:47 | and a mail server | |
| 05:47 | wahanui | i think a mail server is back ! |
| 05:47 | Oak | mtompset: i'll be back after breakfast... sorry was away |
| 05:48 | i mean did not see your messages... was afk | |
| 05:51 | mtompset | Not a problem. Enjoy breakfast. :) |
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| 06:22 | alex_a | bonjour |
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| 06:38 | mtompset | Salut? |
| 06:38 | cait | hi alex_a :) |
| 06:39 | mtompset | hi, cait. |
| 06:39 | alex_a | bonjour cait ! |
| 06:39 | :) | |
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| 06:42 | reiveune | hello |
| 06:44 | cait | hi reiveune :) |
| 06:44 | and brb | |
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| 06:56 | francharb | hi |
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| 07:00 | gaetan_B | hello |
| 07:01 | mtompset | AH! There's a GOTO in C4::AuthoritiesSearch.pm |
| 07:02 | I mean C4::AuthoritiesMarc.pm | |
| 07:02 | Still waking up. :) | |
| 07:03 | dcook_away | Did you actually sleep, mtompset? |
| 07:12 | mtompset | Yes. |
| 07:12 | 3 hours. | |
| 07:12 | dcook | I wish that I had your stamina ;) |
| 07:13 | mtompset | Mountain Dew and Tea help. :) |
| 07:15 | http://mibpaste.com/SryG3U | |
| 07:15 | The code that is ticking me off. | |
| 07:15 | dcook | Your library has a lot of lost items? |
| 07:15 | mtompset | Who in their right mind does so may conditions in one line of code? |
| 07:16 | We marked them lost, but the probably haven't been inventoried yet. | |
| 07:16 | We're in the early stages of doing thing. | |
| 07:16 | things. | |
| 07:16 | dcook | Ahhh, I gotcha |
| 07:16 | mtompset | Some of this data came from Athena. |
| 07:16 | * mtompset | cringes. |
| 07:17 | mtompset | Some of it came from a custom Access DB. |
| 07:17 | * mtompset | cringes even more. |
| 07:17 | dcook | O_O |
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| 07:31 | ropuch | Morning #koha |
| 07:34 | mtompset | Greetings, ropuch. |
| 07:39 | Is items.itype supposed to be the same set of values as biblioitems.itemtype? | |
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| 07:40 | ropuch | Going for some "3-days-no-sleep-still-coding" badge? ;-) |
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| 07:40 | kf | hi #koha |
| 07:40 | ropuch | Guten Tag, kf [; |
| 07:40 | dcook | Have a good day, everyone! I'm off to enjoy my Friday night :) |
| 07:41 | kf | hi ropuch :) |
| 07:47 | sophie_m | hi #koha |
| 07:48 | kf | hi sophie_m :) |
| 07:48 | rangi | hi all |
| 07:48 | kf | hi rangi |
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| 07:49 | druthb | Hi rangi! |
| 07:49 | kf | rangi: ignore her, she should sleep |
| 07:49 | rangi | @later tell slef I have a static copy of the site somewhere but I have no intention of putting it back up anywhere, do you want the wget of it? |
| 07:49 | huginn | rangi: The operation succeeded. |
| 07:49 | druthb | Harrrumph! |
| 07:50 | rangi, kf is bein' mean to me! | |
| 07:51 | rangi | hehe isnt it the middle of the night? |
| 07:51 | kf | no... it's almost morning again |
| 07:51 | * kf | glares at druthb |
| 07:51 | druthb | 03:00, almost |
| 07:52 | * druthb | is just not sleepy |
| 07:54 | 's bed is also being occupied. Two furry cat-beings, both purring like cement mixers | |
| 08:05 | paul_p | good morning #koha |
| 08:05 | kf | hi paul_p :) |
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| 08:21 | kf | hi matts and hdl |
| 08:22 | hdl | hi |
| 08:23 | matts | hi there ! |
| 08:25 | kf | perl days starting today? :) |
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| 08:26 | hdl | kf: yep |
| 08:28 | kf | have fun :) |
| 08:31 | mtompset | Greetings everyone. :) |
| 08:33 | What do you folks know about 942$c and 952$y subfields? | |
| 08:34 | kf | what do you want to know? |
| 08:34 | mtompset | are they generally identical? |
| 08:34 | kf | no |
| 08:34 | there is a system preference | |
| 08:35 | item_level-itypes or similar | |
| 08:35 | that lets you choose if you want to use itypes on record or item level | |
| 08:35 | so when you set it to record, you don't have 952$y | |
| 08:35 | mtompset | So when one is set, the other isn't? |
| 08:35 | kf | if you use item level itypes the relevance of 942 is not so high |
| 08:36 | but it is still used to suggest an itype in your item creation form for example | |
| 08:36 | and maybe in some other places | |
| 08:36 | I normally set it to the most used itype by defalt - but other people might do it differently | |
| 08:36 | mtompset | Because NULL is causing me a headache. |
| 08:36 | It's flooding my error log. :( | |
| 08:37 | And I'm only a lowly programmer, not a librarian. | |
| 08:38 | kf | you can file a bug - but the logs in general have errors and warns |
| 08:38 | it will not the last thing you walk into | |
| 08:38 | and whie it would be good to have them cleaned up, it's curerntly not the case | |
| 08:38 | mtompset | Hey... I want to wake up in the morning tail the error log and see nothing. |
| 08:38 | kf | what you can do for this specific thing is make your catalogers catalog it, use a default value in your frmeworks to always set it... |
| 08:39 | then you will have to spent time on fixing things - I did some patches for that, but it's not high priority for developers right now | |
| 08:39 | mtompset | http://mibpaste.com/SryG3U |
| 08:40 | This is the piece of headache. | |
| 08:40 | kf | where is this from? |
| 08:41 | mtompset | opac-detail. |
| 08:41 | kf | hm interesting |
| 08:41 | wahanui | hmmm... interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad |
| 08:41 | kf | I am suspicous of this part |
| 08:41 | && ($itm->{'itemnotforloan'}<0 || not $itm->{'itemnotforloan'} ) | |
| 08:41 | && (not $itemtypes->{$itm->{'itype'}}->{notforloan} ) | |
| 08:41 | to be worng | |
| 08:41 | because I think it should probably be dependent on former mentioned system preference | |
| 08:41 | mtompset | $itm->{'itype'} is NULL. |
| 08:42 | system preference? What tab is it? | |
| 08:42 | kf | ah no |
| 08:43 | it's probably correct, it checks the item field and the itype... | |
| 08:43 | never mind | |
| 08:43 | you could fix the warn but I think generally it's good to set 942 | |
| 08:43 | so settng it would fix your problem and possibly some others too | |
| 08:44 | mtompset | biblioitems.itemtype |
| 08:44 | kf | yes |
| 08:44 | if you change it using sql | |
| 08:44 | mtompset | right... have some of those NULL too. :) |
| 08:44 | kf | you will have to reindex |
| 08:44 | completely | |
| 08:45 | mtompset | not a problem, jcamins helped me fix the indexing problem last night. :) |
| 08:45 | * mtompset | curses permissions. |
| 08:48 | drojf1 | good day #koha |
| 08:48 | drojf | heh mtompset still around? |
| 08:49 | * magnuse | waves |
| 08:49 | drojf | hei magnuse |
| 08:49 | magnuse | guten tag drojf |
| 08:49 | @wunder boo | |
| 08:49 | drojf | :) |
| 08:49 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 11.0°C (10:20 AM CEST on June 29, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Falling). |
| 08:49 | drojf | @wunder berlin, germany |
| 08:49 | huginn | drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Pankow, Weissensee, Germany is 29.3°C (10:49 AM CEST on June 29, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 52%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Rising). |
| 08:49 | drojf | summerday |
| 08:49 | kf | hi drojf and magnuse |
| 08:50 | drojf | hi kf |
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| 08:50 | kf | morning eythian |
| 08:50 | magnuse | kia ora kf and eythian |
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| 08:51 | eythian | hello all |
| 08:51 | lamiette | morena |
| 08:52 | rangi | hi lamiette and eythian |
| 08:53 | kf | hi lamiette :) |
| 08:53 | mtompset | yes. |
| 08:53 | But I got 3 hours sleep, thank you. | |
| 08:54 | drojf | aaah, good, healthy night sleep :D |
| 08:54 | lamiette | hi all |
| 08:54 | drojf | i know :D |
| 08:55 | mtompset | kf, was just explaining the differences between itype and itemtype. :) |
| 09:02 | does it make sense that itype is filled in more than itemtype? | |
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| 09:04 | mtompset | I guess so when item-level_itypes is 'specific item', correct? |
| 09:08 | 26?! When did that kernel version come out? | |
| 09:08 | 3.2.0.26 I believe is the full. | |
| 09:10 | kf | the last number references to database updates |
| 09:11 | mtompset | So, if itype is set, kf,should itemtype be NULL or the same? |
| 09:11 | kf | it can be the same or it can be something else |
| 09:12 | it should preferably not be NULL if you want to avoid the error logs filling up | |
| 09:12 | mtompset | the values you would expect in itype and itemtype come from the itemtypes table, correct? |
| 09:15 | I think the "Sponsor KohaCon12" needs to be updated now on the webpage. :) | |
| 09:16 | rangi | dude get some sleep, you are all over the place |
| 09:16 | mtompset | Actually, "Sponsor KohaCon12" is just a few inches to the right, so it isn't all over the place. |
| 09:18 | I'll go to bed early tonight. :) | |
| 09:18 | drojf | i guess it includes the paypalobjects.com thing that my browser is blocking so i would not mind that to go away :) |
| 09:19 | kf | we can ask liz to remove it nwo that kohacon is over |
| 09:21 | @later tell wizzyrea can you please remove the donation button for kohacon12 from the kc start page when you have time? thank you! | |
| 09:21 | huginn | kf: The operation succeeded. |
| 09:21 | drojf | kf++ |
| 09:21 | mtompset | yes. |
| 09:21 | kf++ | |
| 09:29 | * mtompset | waits for his "source db_backup.sql" to finish. |
| 09:30 | slef | morning |
| 09:30 | drojf | hi slef |
| 09:30 | mtompset | Morning, slef. |
| 09:30 | Greetings, matts. | |
| 09:36 | slef | :( about kohacon10 website being down for good |
| 09:39 | mtompset | It's not down for good, if you've cached it in your heart. :) |
| 09:40 | magnuse | lol |
| 09:42 | drojf | heh |
| 09:47 | * mtompset | thinks "In The Shadows" by The Rasmus makes good "waiting for my db import" music. |
| 09:50 | eythian | it's not even in the wayback machine :/ |
| 09:50 | mtompset | Probably cause there was a "Robots don't touch this" type file. |
| 09:58 | rangi | https://gitorious.org/kohacon/[…].kohacon10.org.nz |
| 10:02 | mtompset | rangi++ |
| 10:04 | jcamins | Morning. |
| 10:04 | wahanui | morning is probably a state of mind. or whenever the cat wants breakfast. |
| 10:04 | magnuse | kia ora jcamins |
| 10:04 | mtompset | Greetings, kcamins. |
| 10:05 | jcamins. | |
| 10:05 | wahanui | jcamins is, like, A-Grade developper on Koha willing to rewrite it from top to bottom. Good Luck jcamins |
| 10:11 | * Waylon | is djing guys, on www.subspace-radio.net if you guys want to listen in. |
| 10:11 | Waylon | The voice of startrek online. |
| 10:11 | Chill music, 115 - 90 bpm. | |
| 10:12 | mtompset | What's that, Waylon? |
| 10:13 | Ah... | |
| 10:13 | jcamins | rangi: there is a problem with misc/cronjobs/check-url.pl in both 3.8 and 3.6. |
| 10:13 | mtompset | Checking it out... |
| 10:18 | eythian | hello jcamins |
| 10:19 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #769 for job Koha_master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #767 3 days 17 hr ago) |
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| 10:20 | jcamins | eythian: do you have libtest-unaccent-perl on the 3.8 apt repo? |
| 10:20 | eythian | it's in debian I think |
| 10:20 | jcamins | You're right. |
| 10:20 | That's not the package I meant to ask about. | |
| 10:20 | I meant... | |
| 10:21 | Template::Plugin::HtmlToText. | |
| 10:21 | drojf | template-plugin-htmltotext |
| 10:21 | heh | |
| 10:21 | hi jcamins | |
| 10:21 | jcamins | At least one of us is awake right now. ;) |
| 10:21 | mtompset | Template:: Plugin::HtmlToText (without the space) |
| 10:23 | eythian | squeeze|main|i386: libtemplate-plugin-htmltotext-perl 0.03-1koha1 |
| 10:23 | yes | |
| 10:23 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8315 - fix 'C4::Output 3.02' errors in Koha <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]37363707423c6c110> / 7161 Followup for indentation openlibrary.js <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]75b70834b5b7327ba> / Bug-7161 Open Library - Larger image, Read, borrow and checked-out status <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=k |
| 10:23 | jcamins | Nifty, thanks. :) |
| 10:25 | mtompset | Just finished the 3.6.3 db import. |
| 10:25 | Now to web install. :) | |
| 10:27 | jcamins | mtompset: you just have to run updatedatabase. |
| 10:28 | You won't be going through the entire webinstaller. | |
| 10:30 | Waylon | you liking, mtompset ? |
| 10:32 | drojf | in an array of hashes, is there some fancy way to compare all values for a certain key of a hash for all elements of the array? like, there is the same $myhash{mykey}=myvalue in each element of the array and i would want to check if myvalue is the same for all entries. or do i have to walk though that using foreach? does that question make sense at all? |
| 10:33 | jcamins | first question? |
| 10:33 | wahanui | "What are you trying to do?" "What is the goal?" or "What problem are you experiencing?" |
| 10:34 | mtompset | just run updatedatabase? |
| 10:35 | drojf | i want to check if the type of element is the same for all given 856 fields in a record. like, are they all "video" or "audio". |
| 10:35 | jcamins | mtompset: when you try to log in to the staff client, it will do that for you. |
| 10:35 | Ah. | |
| 10:36 | You could do something fancy with map, but I would just iterate through. | |
| 10:36 | drojf | :) |
| 10:36 | mtompset | Need to finish the cron job setup, etc. |
| 10:36 | drojf | ok |
| 10:36 | mtompset | Then I'll try a staffclient. |
| 10:46 | * mtompset | checking environment variables. |
| 10:51 | is tweaking apache configuration files. | |
| 10:52 | jcamins | mtompset: wouldn't it be better to make sure everything is working before doing too much tweaking? |
| 10:53 | drojf | nah he can just install all from scratch if something goes wrong ;) |
| 10:55 | mtompset | tweaking to get graphic browser access as compare to lynx. |
| 10:55 | jcamins | mtompset: okay, that makes sense. |
| 10:56 | mtompset | we have web installer page. YAY! |
| 10:57 | The git I cloned was 3.9? | |
| 10:57 | clicking update your database. | |
| 10:58 | It correctly identified 3.6.3 :) | |
| 10:58 | eythian | the current version is just a special syspref field |
| 10:59 | mtompset | Ah, okay. |
| 10:59 | * mtompset | likes the blinky lights. :) |
| 11:00 | wishes it would run faster. | |
| 11:00 | mtompset | I am going to have a patch posted before I go to bed tonight. :) |
| 11:02 | Wow... 56MB free? I made my VM have 768MB... I guess I really should have told it 1GB. | |
| 11:03 | kf | 1 gb is a bit small |
| 11:03 | drojf | just start over |
| 11:03 | :P | |
| 11:03 | kf | well. it's too small really if you want to load test data |
| 11:03 | mtompset | I already loaded data. |
| 11:04 | I suppose I'll be able to find the optimal size for this data set tonight with this VM. | |
| 11:04 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #75 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 11:07 | mtompset | Why is the git at 3.9, but the latest stable release is 3.8.2? |
| 11:07 | drojf | because git is newer than the stable release i suppose? |
| 11:07 | rangi | cos you didnt check out the 3.8.x branch |
| 11:08 | eythian | yeah, if it wasn't you'd never have a stable release |
| 11:09 | mtompset | git? |
| 11:09 | wahanui | git is http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Control_Using_Git |
| 11:09 | mtompset | I was just following the instructions there. |
| 11:09 | "git clone git://git.koha-community.org/koha.git kohaclone" | |
| 11:09 | "git clone git: //git.koha-community.org/koha.git kohaclone" | |
| 11:09 | kf | mtompset: if your goal was to do a dev install to make patches with, you are on the right branch |
| 11:09 | mtompset | okay. |
| 11:10 | kf | if you want a installation to use in production, you want to checkout the branch with the stable release |
| 11:10 | mtompset | Just want to make sure. |
| 11:10 | what is the git clone for 3.8.X? | |
| 11:11 | jcamins | mtompset: you would do: git checkout -b 3.8.x origin/3.8.x |
| 11:11 | However, don't do that. | |
| 11:12 | mtompset | Shoot... Gateway Timeout on the DB update. |
| 11:13 | updatedatabase.pl is still running. | |
| 11:13 | Okay... so, I'll wait for the updatedatabase.pl to finish. | |
| 11:13 | Then try going back to the staff client. | |
| 11:14 | jenkins_koha | Yippie, build fixed! |
| 11:14 | Project Koha_master build #769: FIXED in 56 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/769/ | |
| 11:14 | * oleonard: Bug 8288 - showmarc.tt should not include full doc-head-close.inc | |
| 11:14 | * matthias.meusburger: Bug 8279: CAS Debugging improvements | |
| 11:14 | * jcamins: Bug 8205: Add OPACShowUnusedAuthorities syspref | |
| 11:14 | * paul.poulain: Bug 8205 follow-up DBRev number | |
| 11:14 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8288 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , showmarc.tt should not include full doc-head-close.inc |
| 11:14 | jenkins_koha | * colin.campbell: Bug 6939 DefaultClassificationSource should be default in 942 |
| 11:14 | * kyle: Bug 8130 - attach PDF files to a patron record | |
| 11:14 | * paul.poulain: Bug 8130 follow-up DBRev number | |
| 11:14 | * nengard: Bug 8319: Update headings on Patron Statistics tab | |
| 11:14 | * mtj: Bug 8313 - add ASHS to 'Koha team' page, for sponsorship of the 'star-ratings' feature | |
| 11:15 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8279 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, matthias.meusburger, Pushed to Master , CAS Debugging improvements |
| 11:15 | jenkins_koha | * nengard: Bug 8321: Fix OPACShowBarcode description |
| 11:15 | * amit.gupta: Bug-7161 Open Library - Larger image, Read, borrow and checked-out status | |
| 11:15 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8205 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Should be possible to hide unused authorities in OPAC |
| 11:15 | jenkins_koha | * m.de.rooy: 7161 Followup for indentation openlibrary.js |
| 11:15 | * mtj: Bug 8315 - fix 'C4::Output 3.02' errors in Koha | |
| 11:15 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6939 normal, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Stable , DefaultClassificationSource not used in 942$2 |
| 11:15 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8130 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , attach PDF files to a patron record | |
| 11:15 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8319 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nengard, Pushed to Master , headings on statistics tab are confusing | |
| 11:15 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8313 trivial, P5 - low, ---, nengard, Pushed to Stable , add ASHS to 'Koha team' page, for sponsorship of the 'star-ratings' feature | |
| 11:15 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8321 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nengard, Pushed to Master , fix OPACShowBarcode description | |
| 11:15 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8315 major, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, ASSIGNED , fix 'C4::Output 3.02' errors in Koha | |
| 11:16 | kf | build fixed - nice |
| 11:16 | magnuse | \o/ |
| 11:24 | mtompset | okay... my web installer steps failed, but the db got updated. |
| 11:24 | Is there anything past step 3? | |
| 11:25 | jcamins | Nope. |
| 11:25 | That's it. | |
| 11:25 | mtompset | Okay... I seem to be in... |
| 11:25 | jcamins | Now you log into the staff client. |
| 11:26 | mtompset | Okay... I guess that means I can attempt a patch now? |
| 11:28 | pulled up my bugs list. | |
| 11:30 | kf | there are instructionson the wiki |
| 11:30 | mtompset | I figured I should do a 'git pull' first. |
| 11:30 | kf | remember to never make changes on your master branch, create a new branch |
| 11:30 | yes, paul pushed new things today | |
| 11:31 | mtompset | Trying to see what the Version Control Using Git page says... |
| 11:32 | jcamins | mtompset: http://www.myacpl.org/koha/?p=558 |
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| 11:34 | mtompset | So you branch for each bug fix? |
| 11:35 | jcamins | Yes. |
| 11:36 | I have 146 branches in my development repo. | |
| 11:36 | Probably due for some cleaning. | |
| 11:36 | I deleted 70 a few months ago. | |
| 11:36 | mtompset | Okay... makes sense... but how do you switch the main branch? |
| 11:36 | jcamins | git checkout -b whatever origin/master |
| 11:36 | mtompset | Because obviously you'll want to keep doing git pulls. |
| 11:36 | jcamins | That creates a branch called whatever. |
| 11:37 | Then you download the latest version of the code with git fetch origin | |
| 11:37 | And when you want to make sure that the code you're working on applies on latest master, you do git rebase origin/master | |
| 11:37 | mtompset | so once you create a branch you git rebase? |
| 11:38 | jcamins | No, when you create a branch it has the newest version of code. |
| 11:38 | It's *later* when master has been updated further that you need to do the git fetch origin && git rebase origin/master | |
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| 11:39 | mtompset | okay... so let's say I got this running yesterday. |
| 11:39 | jcamins | You know how using IE used to really suck? |
| 11:39 | It still does. | |
| 11:39 | mtompset | there's stuff being git pulled down now. |
| 11:39 | If I did a patch yesterbase.... | |
| 11:39 | yesterday... | |
| 11:39 | jcamins | I think you're using the wrong terminology. |
| 11:39 | A "pull" is what you, as someone developing against master does. | |
| 11:40 | mtompset | yes. |
| 11:40 | jcamins | What paul_p does as release manager is "push." |
| 11:40 | So let's say you started development yesterday. | |
| 11:40 | mtompset | I don't care about pushing. |
| 11:40 | jcamins | Right. |
| 11:40 | mtompset | I'm worried about pulling right now |
| 11:40 | I have kohaclone | |
| 11:40 | jcamins | Since then, paul_p pushed some changes. |
| 11:41 | mtompset | I branch. |
| 11:41 | jcamins | You want to update your code. |
| 11:41 | mtompset | paul pushs. |
| 11:41 | I branch again. | |
| 11:41 | jcamins | No. |
| 11:41 | No additional branching. | |
| 11:41 | mtompset | Yes... a branch for each bug fix. |
| 11:41 | jcamins | Oh, I thought we were talking about one bug fix. |
| 11:41 | mtompset | no... |
| 11:41 | jcamins | That is correct. One branch for each fix. |
| 11:42 | mtompset | last year kohaclone |
| 11:42 | yesterday git pull | |
| 11:42 | branch bug A | |
| 11:42 | generate patch blah blah | |
| 11:42 | branch bug B today. | |
| 11:42 | rebase branch B? | |
| 11:43 | jcamins | Before you create the branch for bug B, you should do "git fetch origin." |
| 11:43 | Then it will be up-to-date as soon as you check it out. | |
| 11:43 | mtompset | but what does that mean for branch A? |
| 11:43 | what happens to the patch I just did? | |
| 11:43 | jcamins | Branch A is now a little behind the times. |
| 11:44 | When you go back to working on bug A, you're going to do "git rebase origin/master" | |
| 11:44 | This will update branch A to the latest master, and try to stick your patch on at the end of it. | |
| 11:44 | If there is a conflict, it will tell you and you'll be given the opportunity to fix it. | |
| 11:46 | mtompset | Ah so rebasing is an attempt make current but keep your patch. |
| 11:47 | jcamins | Right. |
| 11:47 | mtompset | but only in that branch. |
| 11:47 | jcamins | Right. |
| 11:48 | mtompset | how do you switch branches? |
| 11:48 | jcamins | git checkout branchname |
| 11:50 | mtompset | what if the branchname doesn't exist? |
| 11:50 | Typos happen. | |
| 11:51 | eythian | try it and find out :) |
| 11:51 | kf | you can see your branches with git branch |
| 11:51 | and tab complete works too | |
| 11:52 | eythian | also, it'll say that it can't do that |
| 11:52 | mtompset | git branch -r lists a WHOLE bunch of branchs. |
| 11:52 | eythian | that's because there's a lot |
| 11:52 | mtompset | So, I've done my git pull. |
| 11:52 | My kohaclone is current. | |
| 11:52 | git pull would blow away my patches in a branch, right? | |
| 11:53 | jcamins | No. |
| 11:53 | eythian | nope |
| 11:53 | git tries hard to never lose your work | |
| 11:53 | in this case, it'll merge it in | |
| 11:53 | jcamins | It takes real work to remove patches. |
| 11:53 | Oh, drat. | |
| 11:53 | * jcamins | finds a syntax error in his Javascript. |
| 11:54 | jcamins | kf: bug 2060 will be ready for sign off in a few minutes... |
| 11:54 | kf | will you be around tomorrow? |
| 11:56 | jcamins | Chances are good. |
| 11:56 | It's an easy sign off, though. | |
| 11:57 | Ugh. | |
| 11:57 | Apparently the rebase resulted in the manage staged records not showing up right, either. | |
| 11:57 | mtompset | dumb question... which file do I fix? ./blib/INTRANET_CGI_DIR/members/moremember.pl ./members/moremember.pl? |
| 11:58 | jcamins | members/moremember.pl |
| 11:58 | blib was created by make. | |
| 11:58 | mtompset | right. |
| 11:58 | Okay. | |
| 12:00 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.8.x build #75: SUCCESS in 56 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.8.x/75/ |
| 12:00 | * oleonard: Bug 8288 - showmarc.tt should not include full doc-head-close.inc | |
| 12:00 | * colin.campbell: Bug 6939 DefaultClassificationSource should be default in 942 | |
| 12:00 | Starting build #76 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) | |
| 12:03 | mtompset | That was a surprise... I forgot about doing a git pull while using the staff client... I was transported to a DB update screen. |
| 12:04 | jcamins | Right, it will automatically detect when your database is out of date. |
| 12:09 | mtompset | Okay... confirmed the bug is still in latest version. |
| 12:10 | Now to save my tiny change. | |
| 12:11 | Okay... I have fixed the file... next step... let's see... | |
| 12:12 | eythian | git add <file>, git commit |
| 12:12 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_bz_configuration <-- I also strongly recommend setting this up | |
| 12:14 | mtompset | AAAAA! Nano editor. I don't know how to use it. |
| 12:16 | jcamins | mtompset: you can change your editor with export EDITOR=vim |
| 12:17 | Or, you know, that other one. | |
| 12:17 | mtompset | That one shall not be named! GAH! |
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| 12:19 | eythian | mtompset: nano tells you how to use it |
| 12:19 | the key list is at the bottom of the screen | |
| 12:20 | mtompset | I don't like it. I know vi well enough. |
| 12:20 | eythian | despite that, my commits on new machines always end up with ZZ at the bottom. |
| 12:20 | mtompset | Some of my config files are being listed as changed. |
| 12:20 | How do I get git to ignore them? | |
| 12:21 | jcamins | mtompset: none of the config files you are using should be controlled by git. |
| 12:21 | paul_p | mtompset = create .gitignore file |
| 12:21 | jcamins | No, don't do that. |
| 12:21 | eythian | no bad |
| 12:21 | bad paul_p, bad :) | |
| 12:21 | mtompset | but I don't want ../etc/... included. |
| 12:21 | jcamins | paul_p: mtompset just started using git, and didn't know not to edit those config files. |
| 12:21 | paul_p | eythian ? why ? |
| 12:22 | jcamins ah, OK | |
| 12:22 | jcamins | paul_p: the files he edited are the ones in kohaclone/etc |
| 12:22 | mtompset: the configuration files used by your installation are the ones in koha-dev/etc | |
| 12:22 | eythian | also, if you make a .gitignore, it ends up getting committed |
| 12:22 | * jcamins | didn't know that. |
| 12:22 | jcamins | However, the wrong files were edited. |
| 12:23 | paul_p | eythian ??? I have a .gitignore to itnore *.*~ or things like that in the list of untracked files |
| 12:23 | jcamins | mtompset: see what changes you made with "git diff" |
| 12:23 | paul_p | (and I told .gitignore to ignore .gitignore ;-) ) |
| 12:23 | eythian | ahh |
| 12:23 | that'll work then :) | |
| 12:23 | magnuse | there also .git/info/exclude... |
| 12:23 | eythian | I think there's a "proper" way of doing it |
| 12:23 | yes, that's the way | |
| 12:24 | mtompset | http://mibpaste.com/qw7Eb3 |
| 12:24 | That's a sample difference. | |
| 12:24 | * paul_p | is on bug 6557 and will probably push it soon... |
| 12:24 | jcamins | paul_p++ |
| 12:24 | eythian | mtompset: don't commit that |
| 12:24 | mtompset | duh! I know that. |
| 12:24 | eythian | :) |
| 12:24 | jcamins | mtompset: what did you do? |
| 12:25 | mtompset | Nothing. |
| 12:25 | jcamins | I mean, I don't see how you could end up with files that looked like that. |
| 12:25 | mtompset | I did an INSTALL. |
| 12:25 | jcamins | Did you copy files from koha-dev to kohaclone? |
| 12:25 | mtompset | the perl script relabels. |
| 12:25 | jcamins | Not in place. |
| 12:25 | eythian | I suspect you didn't provide another directory for put the config files into, or something |
| 12:25 | *to put | |
| 12:25 | jcamins | eythian: but it's installed to koha-dev by default... |
| 12:25 | mtompset | obviously not. |
| 12:26 | I did a git clone. | |
| 12:26 | and then perl make, make, make test, make install inside the kohaclone. | |
| 12:26 | jcamins | mtompset: no, really, when you ran the installer it suggested koha-dev as the default. |
| 12:26 | kf | paul_p: did the same with my gitignore heh |
| 12:26 | mtompset | the web installer?! |
| 12:26 | It jumped immediately to step 3. | |
| 12:27 | eythian | no, the make |
| 12:27 | * paul_p | also impatient to see bug 7167 pushed, because he's tired of editing updatedatabase everytime there is a DB update... |
| 12:27 | jcamins | No, with make. |
| 12:27 | paul_p: hehe. Me too. | |
| 12:27 | mtompset | okay... |
| 12:27 | Let's clean this up. | |
| 12:27 | paul_p | jcamins = if you could take a few minuts to signoff again the 7167, that would be nice (because jonathan updated it to fix QA comments) |
| 12:27 | mtompset | How do I delete a branch, and just git pull? |
| 12:28 | I'll do the reinstall over. | |
| 12:28 | * magnuse | uses .git/info/exclude by default, except for things like config files in new projects |
| 12:28 | jcamins | paul_p: I can't do it right now, since I have to leave in five minutes, but I will as soon as I can, if no one beats me. |
| 12:28 | eythian | mtompset: you probably don't need to delete a branch |
| 12:29 | mtompset | I'd feel more comfortable doing that. |
| 12:29 | eythian | and I'm not sure what "just git pull" means. |
| 12:29 | mtompset | My change is very trivial. |
| 12:29 | make it like a fresh git clone. | |
| 12:29 | eythian | git branch -D branchname will delete a branch |
| 12:29 | mtompset | git rebase? |
| 12:29 | eythian | git rebase will not delete a branch |
| 12:30 | kf | you can also do git reset --hard HEAD^ that will undo the last commit |
| 12:30 | and throw away your changes | |
| 12:31 | jcamins | In this case, you just need git reset --hard |
| 12:31 | That will remove all the changes you haven't committed. | |
| 12:31 | eythian | the branch, however, will still be there and so it won't be like a fresh git clone. |
| 12:31 | (it'll just point to a previous place. | |
| 12:31 | ) | |
| 12:32 | mtompset | I deleted the branch. |
| 12:32 | I only have master. | |
| 12:32 | So... | |
| 12:33 | git checkout master | |
| 12:33 | git branch -D bug_7630 | |
| 12:33 | git reset --hard | |
| 12:33 | eythian | you don't need to reset |
| 12:33 | (assuming you haven't changed master) | |
| 12:33 | mtompset | I did the install process in master. |
| 12:34 | that's the problem. | |
| 12:34 | eythian | that doesn't matter |
| 12:34 | jcamins | eythian: no, the git reset --hard is necessary because the configuration was installed to kohaclone rather than koha-dev. |
| 12:34 | eythian | ohh |
| 12:34 | mtompset | right. |
| 12:34 | eythian | yeah, my bad |
| 12:34 | jcamins | I think. |
| 12:34 | eythian | doing two things at once. |
| 12:34 | * jcamins | too. |
| 12:34 | mtompset | so it should say something like koha-dev in the perl Makefile.PL step? |
| 12:34 | jcamins | And, I need to be leaving right now. |
| 12:35 | mtompset: right. | |
| 12:35 | mtompset | there it is. |
| 12:36 | kf | mtompset: it will suggest paths, just ok them |
| 12:36 | eythian | but read them first so you know what you're looking at :) |
| 12:37 | kf | right :) |
| 12:37 | mtompset | I think I changed the dev not understanding why it was what it was. |
| 12:37 | kf | reading first is always a good plan |
| 12:39 | mtompset | I was so close to my first patch! |
| 12:41 | kf | you still are |
| 12:41 | and when you have done it once, second time will be a lot easier | |
| 12:41 | mtompset | Not with the speed of my VM. :) |
| 12:51 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.8.x build #76: SUCCESS in 50 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.8.x/76/ |
| 12:51 | mtj: Bug 8313 - add ASHS to 'Koha team' page, for sponsorship of the 'star-ratings' feature | |
| 12:51 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8313 trivial, P5 - low, ---, nengard, Pushed to Stable , add ASHS to 'Koha team' page, for sponsorship of the 'star-ratings' feature |
| 12:51 | mtompset | at the make test stage. (running it just for proper processing) |
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| 13:02 | mtompset | hopefully this is the correct make install. |
| 13:12 | Now to correct the softlinks. | |
| 13:17 | drojf | is there a way to sort the sysprefs for my patch other than the default (alphabetically)? looks kind of stupid to have the syspref to turn the thing on in between other parameters instead of on top of all |
| 13:17 | kf | drojf: first question? |
| 13:17 | wahanui | "What are you trying to do?" "What is the goal?" or "What problem are you experiencing?" |
| 13:18 | kf | are you creating more than one syspref that belong together? |
| 13:18 | drojf | well, what i said basically. i have syspref a, b and c |
| 13:18 | yes | |
| 13:18 | kf | hm |
| 13:18 | drojf | but b is the one to turn all on |
| 13:18 | kf | maybe: name them so they sort correctly or introduce a new subheading in the yaml file |
| 13:18 | hm but that won't fix the sorting | |
| 13:19 | I thought they sorted like listed in the file, but I never checked it | |
| 13:19 | drojf | no they dont :( i thought so too |
| 13:19 | renaming the sysprefs means changing the db also :( | |
| 13:22 | kf | hm what are the names of your prefs? |
| 13:25 | oh | |
| 13:25 | you could perhaps group them | |
| 13:26 | drojf: let me try and find an example? | |
| 13:27 | drojf: look at the syntax for AltenrateHoldingsField maybe? | |
| 13:27 | and if you have a separate syspref to turn it on and others, maybe leaving some empty might work to turn off? | |
| 13:28 | z3950NormalizeAuthor is another example | |
| 13:29 | * mtompset | cries, "Why?! Oh why?!" |
| 13:29 | mtompset | Something somewhere still thinks it isn't kohaclone. |
| 13:30 | kf | ? |
| 13:30 | if you could give more informatoin | |
| 13:30 | we could try to help you | |
| 13:30 | and there are files outside of kohaclone | |
| 13:30 | mtompset | did the perl makefile, make, make test, make install. |
| 13:30 | there are koha-dev files. | |
| 13:30 | kf | yes |
| 13:30 | drojf | kf: thanks, the grouping should do |
| 13:30 | kf | you shoudl end up with 2 directories |
| 13:30 | mtompset | BUT... something is still pointing to kohaclone. |
| 13:31 | kf | 1 lives under git, the other does not |
| 13:31 | can you specify something? | |
| 13:32 | mtompset | I can't get to the staff client, because has the _DB_HOST_ stuff. |
| 13:33 | I restarted apache... works now. | |
| 13:33 | * mtompset | sighs a big sigh of relief. |
| 13:34 | mtompset | AH! ... let me check... I probably missed a softlink. |
| 13:35 | nope... just failed to restart to point it to the right place. | |
| 13:35 | git diff shows nothing. | |
| 13:35 | kf | that's good |
| 13:35 | mtompset | YES! |
| 13:35 | kf | it should work |
| 13:35 | using the files from the koha-dev directory | |
| 13:35 | ok, time to start the weekend :) bye all! | |
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| 13:36 | mtompset | Enjoy your weekend... I just want to get a patch. |
| 13:38 | Okay... confirmed error. | |
| 13:38 | patron search.. | |
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| 13:42 | mtompset | oh shoot! |
| 13:42 | I forgot to create the branch. | |
| 13:45 | whew! changing it back gives a blank git diff. | |
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| 13:57 | mtompset | Okay... so, I do I post the patch as an attachment to bugzilla? |
| 13:58 | paul_p | bug 6557 pushed, but some work still needed... |
| 13:58 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6557 normal, P3, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , biblioitems.totalissues unused |
| 14:04 | mtompset | I think I got it. |
| 14:14 | Hi, matts. | |
| 14:14 | YAY! I generated my first patch. | |
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| 14:23 | drojf | mtompset: congratulations |
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| 14:33 | mtompset | And I've generated a second... |
| 14:33 | And I'm working on my third. | |
| 14:38 | magnuse | mtompset++ |
| 14:39 | mtompset | I want my bugs to get pushed and closed! |
| 14:39 | It's not like these are HUGE! | |
| 14:39 | a simple \ was the fix for one of them. | |
| 14:40 | slef | yengh... what's the code for the serial claims notice? I need it to test something |
| 14:41 | claimissues? | |
| 14:42 | might be CLAIM ISSUE | |
| 14:42 | hrm | |
| 14:42 | ah no I see | |
| 14:42 | it's module "claim serial issue" not module "serial" | |
| 14:43 | I think I'll have to test this on a live server :-/ | |
| 14:43 | * slef | wanders off, muttering into his beard |
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| 14:58 | mtompset | Three patches, jcamins. :) |
| 14:58 | jcamins | mtompset: well done! |
| 14:59 | Did you mark them "needs signoff"? | |
| 15:00 | mtompset | I attached them to the bug reports. |
| 15:00 | Should have I changed the status? | |
| 15:00 | I'm the reporter. | |
| 15:00 | jcamins | You'll need to change the status of each of those bugs to "Needs signoff," or no one will know to look at them. |
| 15:00 | Yeah, you're saying "there's a patch that needs to be tested." | |
| 15:01 | Anyone can do that. :) | |
| 15:02 | eythian | wahanui: bug workflow is <reply>http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]nt-patch_Workflow |
| 15:02 | wahanui | ...but bug workflow is http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]nt-patch_Workflow... |
| 15:02 | eythian | oh right |
| 15:02 | wahanui: as you were then | |
| 15:02 | wahanui | eythian: sorry... |
| 15:02 | jcamins | bug workflow? |
| 15:02 | wahanui | i heard bug workflow was http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]nt-patch_Workflow |
| 15:02 | jcamins | ^^ see that page |
| 15:03 | mtompset | Okay,,, what if one of the bugs I think is a duplicate? |
| 15:03 | eythian | then you can use the "duplicate" status |
| 15:03 | mtompset | but duplicate puts it to RESOLVED. |
| 15:04 | I don't like that. | |
| 15:04 | jcamins | Yes, RESOLVED/DUPLICATE. |
| 15:04 | That's what it is. | |
| 15:04 | It's a duplicate. | |
| 15:04 | eythian | it's saying "this one is resolved so ignore it, look over there for the real happenings" |
| 15:05 | reiveune | bye |
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| 15:05 | eythian | "resolved" doesn't mean "fixed", "fixed" means that :) |
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| 15:10 | mtompset | okay... |
| 15:10 | I was thinking... | |
| 15:10 | what's your take on line 264 of catalogue/details.pl | |
| 15:11 | if ($item->{'materials'} ne ''){ | |
| 15:11 | eythian | it might be worth putting a sample into a pastbin |
| 15:11 | oh | |
| 15:11 | that could be made nicer | |
| 15:11 | jcamins | That's... awful. |
| 15:11 | eythian | by dropping off the ne '' |
| 15:11 | mtompset | I was thinking no need for ne. |
| 15:11 | jcamins | Yup. |
| 15:11 | I agree. | |
| 15:11 | mtompset | Okay... that will be my patch. |
| 15:12 | eythian | it'll also improve error handling in corner cases that'll probably never come up anyway |
| 15:12 | jcamins | And remove a warning. |
| 15:13 | mtompset | bug 8175 |
| 15:13 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8175 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Missing defined check in catalogue/details.pl |
| 15:13 | mtompset | Okay... I thought of adding defined... but I realized a drop the ne is better. |
| 15:14 | eythian | yeah |
| 15:19 | mtompset | bug 8200 |
| 15:20 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8200 trivial, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , /home/chris/git/koha.git in /usr/share/koha/misc/translator/update.pl |
| 15:20 | mtompset | Wasn't someone saying update.pl is old? |
| 15:20 | jcamins | I think it might be. |
| 15:22 | mtompset | I already quoted you in the comment I put. :) |
| 15:23 | Well, that means that bug and bug 8192 are the only one's of mine outstanding. | |
| 15:23 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8192 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Update libraries and Missing library in install_misc/ubuntu.packages |
| 15:26 | mtompset | Oh, and since I think you changed the status of bug 6840 jcamins, perhaps you could read through the commentary and decide if it really needs to be assigned at all. |
| 15:26 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6840 minor, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED , error in Template.pm in logs |
| 15:26 | mtompset | The code is already live. |
| 15:26 | I think Fred P was confused. | |
| 15:27 | bug 7630 deals with his issues, I think. | |
| 15:27 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7630 minor, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Needs Signoff , Warning on moremember.pl about param without key |
| 15:27 | mtompset | And now... after that most excellent coding run... |
| 15:27 | jcamins | The patch for bug 7630 hasn't been pushed yet. |
| 15:28 | mtompset | I know. I just did it. :P |
| 15:28 | jcamins | Right, therefore, bug 6840 should not be closed yet. |
| 15:29 | You should change the assignment on that bug to you, and then once 7630 is closed, we can test it, and close both. | |
| 15:29 | mtompset | but the code for 6840 is already live. |
| 15:29 | jcamins | Oh, you're saying the code that fixes 6840 is already in master? |
| 15:29 | mtompset | YES. |
| 15:29 | jcamins | Okay. |
| 15:29 | * jcamins | was confused. |
| 15:29 | paul_p | time to go back home. see you on monday guys ! |
| 15:29 | mtompset | Au revoir, paul_p. |
| 15:30 | jcamins | If the error isn't appearing anymore, you should go ahead and close the bug with a message something along the lines of "working in latest master." |
| 15:30 | mtompset | Okay... let me try... |
| 15:30 | There is an error... | |
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| 15:30 | mtompset | generated by that patch, intentionally to prevent a NASTY error. |
| 15:31 | i.e. a warn statement versus bad code. | |
| 15:32 | I think I documented some other cases on bug 7352. | |
| 15:32 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7352 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, moremember.pl generates error in Template.pm related to missing $key value |
| 15:33 | jcamins | Got it. |
| 15:33 | Actually, there's an easier way to fix this problem in the future: | |
| 15:33 | coding guidelines? | |
| 15:33 | wahanui | coding guidelines are http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Coding_Guidelines |
| 15:33 | jcamins | Actually, it might not be there. |
| 15:33 | @quote search typo | |
| 15:33 | huginn | jcamins: 2 found: #135: "rangi: $tempate->{VARS}->{'LoginBranchname'} -..." and #82: "<pianohack> nengard: If you were using a..." |
| 15:34 | jcamins | @quote get 135 |
| 15:34 | huginn | jcamins: Quote #135: "rangi: $tempate->{VARS}->{'LoginBranchname'} - without the typo" (added by cait at 07:30 PM, May 20, 2011) |
| 15:34 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #770 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED) |
| 15:34 | jcamins | ^^ you can use that instead of the params(key => $value) if $value; |
| 15:34 | mtompset | you mean $key=> value if $key. |
| 15:34 | jcamins | However, yes, you should go ahead and close the bug report you just asked about, because it is working now even without your patch. |
| 15:35 | Yes. | |
| 15:35 | That's what I mean. | |
| 15:35 | Wait... that's not what the example was. | |
| 15:35 | * jcamins | is frazzled... he has an unusable shower which he only just found out does not have to be replaced. |
| 15:35 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Revert "Bug 7444: Update circ/circulation.pl to use KohaDates TT Plugin" <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]66e9c822522f49a72> / bug 6350 (history.txt) fixing typo <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]953859eb8836c7698> / Bug 6350 : Updating history <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]itdiff;h=2d3c51e1 |
| 15:36 | jcamins | (this is good news... up until five minutes ago I thought we were going to be remodeling the bathroom) |
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| 15:37 | mtompset | I'll just leave it then. |
| 15:37 | It's 11:37pm here. I should have gone to bed earlier. | |
| 15:37 | jcamins | Yes, you should've. |
| 15:37 | mtompset | But you can't stop a good coding run. |
| 15:37 | jcamins | lol |
| 15:37 | I must give it to you, that was impressive. | |
| 15:38 | mtompset | And now, I can submit patches with bug reports in the future. :) |
| 15:38 | jcamins | Yup. |
| 15:39 | mtompset | I should probably do a diff -r against 3.6.3 and our 3.6.3 to see if I made any other changes I forgot to bug report. |
| 15:39 | jcamins | That would be a good idea. |
| 15:39 | mtompset | But one thing I really want to change is the staff client "login" div AFTER login. |
| 15:40 | I want to lay out my login screen custom. | |
| 15:40 | jcamins | You don't need to patch the code for that. |
| 15:40 | mtompset | So, I don't want it messing up my menu bar at the top. |
| 15:40 | jcamins | You should just use CSS. |
| 15:41 | mtompset | How do you distinguish between login and login?! |
| 15:41 | that's the CSS. | |
| 15:41 | jcamins | Okay, a patch will be required to change one of those ids. |
| 15:41 | mtompset | exactly. |
| 15:41 | jcamins | *Then* you do the styling with CSS. |
| 15:41 | :) | |
| 15:41 | mtompset | YES! |
| 15:41 | eythian | having two ids the same is doubleplusungood anyway |
| 15:42 | jcamins | eythian: it's really bizarre having you in this time zone. |
| 15:42 | mtompset | That's probably something I'll submit next week. |
| 15:42 | Waylon | what the.... sysadmin writes back.. latest koha version is 4.10?! |
| 15:42 | mtompset | What timezone is he normally in? |
| 15:42 | jcamins | Waylon: no, it isn't. That LibLime's fork. |
| 15:43 | mtompset: New Zealand's. | |
| 15:43 | mtompset | So why is a NZ in the US? |
| 15:43 | jcamins | He's in Europe, actually. Visiting satellite offices, I think. :) |
| 15:44 | mtompset | Ah. |
| 15:44 | eythian | Yeah, it's summer in Europe, winter at home. |
| 15:44 | mtompset | anyways... good day (24 hour period) |
| 15:44 | Thanks for the help and feedback guys. | |
| 15:44 | eythian | later |
| 15:44 | jcamins | Good night. |
| 15:45 | slef | bug 7717 and bug 7494 and bug 6460 and bug 7613 |
| 15:45 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7717 enhancement, P3, ---, mjr, ASSIGNED , Multiple Identical Holds |
| 15:45 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7494 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mjr, In Discussion , Use partial barcode or callnumber as a fallback for the barcode search in checkout | |
| 15:45 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6460 normal, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, januszop, RESOLVED FIXED, No log generated if Action set to All or Modify or Delete | |
| 15:45 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7613 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, ruth, Needs Signoff , OCLC Connexion Gateway, including extension svc/import_bib | |
| 15:45 | Waylon | okay, so sysadmin wants to bare metal the koha servers, no xcp. |
| 15:46 | slef | xcp? |
| 15:46 | * Waylon | cringes. |
| 15:46 | Waylon | XCP, Xen Cloud Platform. |
| 15:46 | VM host | |
| 15:46 | drojf | Waylon: going from pre 3.0 with lots of local changes to liblime fork would be ironic ;) |
| 15:46 | eythian | it would be terrible :) |
| 15:46 | * jcamins | doesn't know what xcp is, but as long as you are working on Koha and not LibLime's fork you should... survive, anyway. |
| 15:46 | slef | didn't KVM beat Xen yet? ;) |
| 15:46 | jcamins | eythian: terribly ironic, even.. |
| 15:46 | Waylon | i swear, if they move to liblimes branch, i quit working for them. |
| 15:47 | drojf | they just googled koha :( |
| 15:47 | eythian | I was talking to a maybe-client who said he had done a bit of digging around about Koha, and couldn't see much sign of documentation or community or anything. |
| 15:47 | Then I showed him the proper website | |
| 15:47 | jcamins | Waylon: if they do want to go with LibLime's Koha, jwagner can probably put them in touch with the sales people. |
| 15:47 | eythian | It was like a whole new world. |
| 15:48 | Waylon | "Debian squeeze 64 bit is the most common Koha OS, the most supported." yes? |
| 15:48 | eythian | yeah |
| 15:48 | it's what I deploy on | |
| 15:48 | jcamins | slef: you should sign off on bug 7613. I would like to, but couldn't get Connexion to start. |
| 15:48 | slef | 7613 is in master now isn't it? |
| 15:49 | jcamins | slef: not the follow-up. |
| 15:49 | slef: it doesn't actually work with Connexion client. | |
| 15:49 | slef | jcamins: I'd need to wait for an OCLC-using client to report back again :-/ |
| 15:50 | jcamins | slef: if I ever have a Windows installation that works, I'll try again. |
| 15:52 | It may one day come to the point where I actually have to buy the MSDN OS collection (ugh!), but we're putting that off as long as possible. | |
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| 16:11 | gaetan_B | bye ! |
| 16:23 | jwagner | cfouts, one other pivotal that came back up -- can you take a look at https://www.pivotaltracker.com[…]ry/show/22673905? |
| 16:23 | It's sporadic and not reproducible, but it's too much to be user error or a stuck keyboard | |
| 16:23 | sorry, wrong screen :-( | |
| 16:23 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #770: SUCCESS in 49 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/770/ |
| 16:23 | * jcamins: Bug 6557: Record bib popularity in totalissues | |
| 16:23 | * paul.poulain: Bug 6557 follow-up DBRev number | |
| 16:24 | * paul.poulain: Bug 6557 follow-up UNIMARC 942$0 in default french frameworks | |
| 16:24 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6557 normal, P3, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , biblioitems.totalissues unused |
| 16:24 | jenkins_koha | * jcamins: Bug 8311: Fix scoping error in C4::Auth |
| 16:24 | * semarie-koha: Bug 3280 Restrict Send basket feature | |
| 16:24 | * paul.poulain: Bug 8318: Update StatisticsFields preference language | |
| 16:24 | * jonathan.druart: Bug 8217: Followup: move code to the document.ready function | |
| 16:24 | * Chris Cormack: Bug 6350 : Updating history | |
| 16:24 | * paul.poulain: bug 6350 (history.txt) fixing typo | |
| 16:24 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8311 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Mis-scoped function call in C4::Auth |
| 16:24 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3280 normal, P3, ---, semarie-koha, Pushed to Master , opac/opac-sendbasket.pl security leaky | |
| 16:24 | jenkins_koha | * paul.poulain: Revert "Bug 7444: Update circ/circulation.pl to use KohaDates TT Plugin" |
| 16:24 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8318 minor, P5 - low, ---, nengard, Pushed to Master , update StatisticsFields description |
| 16:24 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8217 minor, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Focus on search box in Detail page (staff search) | |
| 16:24 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6350 trivial, P5 - low, ---, nengard, Pushed to Master , Bug for tracking updates to the history file | |
| 16:24 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7444 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha.sekjal, Pushed to Master , Use T::T date plugin to display dates omnibus | |
| 16:32 | * jcamins | considers adding another section to the administration module. |
| 16:50 | slef | @query zebra-biblios-dom.cfg |
| 16:50 | huginn | slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7818 critical, P1 - high, ---, robin, Needs Signoff , support DOM mode for Zebra indexing of bibliographic records |
| 16:51 | jcamins | slef: that's the patch for making packages cope with the DOM indexing. |
| 16:51 | slef | jcamins: and presuably why packages of 3.8.x aren't building at the moment? |
| 16:52 | jcamins | Right. |
| 16:52 | * slef | reviews |
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| 17:08 | mveron | Hi #koha |
| 17:13 | nengard | MT 2763 can anyone think of why suppression wouldn't be working? |
| 17:13 | oops - wrong window :) hehe | |
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| 17:22 | jcamins | nengard: Zebra config wasn't updated? |
| 17:23 | nengard | hehe |
| 17:23 | Yeah, that's what we're thinking | |
| 17:23 | jcamins | It's easy to overlook when using dev installs. |
| 17:23 | (and this is why using dev installs in production is a bad idea!) | |
| 17:29 | * mveron | ponders if someone can stumble oveer soething that does not exist? |
| 17:29 | stumbled over missing file PR.png, see Bug 8335 | |
| 17:29 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8335 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Missing Icon PR.png or typo in MARC21slim2OPACDetail.xsl |
| 17:30 | jcamins | What does PR stand for? |
| 17:30 | Periodical? | |
| 17:30 | mveron | Do not know... |
| 17:31 | slef | aren't periodicals CR for Continuing Resource? |
| 17:31 | jcamins | slef: yes. |
| 17:33 | Some sort of music. | |
| 17:33 | Not sure what PR would stand for. | |
| 17:34 | Maybe jwagner or cait would know... I seem to recall them both talking about sheet music at some point. | |
| 17:34 | slef | test="$leader6='c' or $leader6='d'" |
| 17:34 | @marc leader | |
| 17:34 | huginn | slef: unknown tag leader |
| 17:34 | slef | @marc LDR |
| 17:34 | huginn | slef: unknown tag LDR |
| 17:34 | jcamins | @marc ldr |
| 17:34 | huginn | jcamins: unknown tag ldr |
| 17:34 | slef | marc21? |
| 17:34 | wahanui | marc21 is at http://www.loc.gov/marc/biblio[…]hic/ecbdlist.html , http://www.loc.gov/marc/authority/ecadlist.html |
| 17:34 | jcamins | @marc 000 |
| 17:34 | huginn | jcamins: unknown tag 000 |
| 17:35 | slef | c - Notated music |
| 17:35 | d - Manuscript notated music | |
| 17:35 | jcamins | Yeah... something to do with sheet music. |
| 17:36 | * jwagner | perks up ears |
| 17:36 | jwagner | I show that combo labelled Score |
| 17:37 | jcamins | jwagner: that seems a very logical thing to call it. I wonder where PR came from, and what happened to that file. |
| 17:37 | slef | MU.png looks like closest we have |
| 17:38 | unless we go with AR.png | |
| 17:38 | jcamins | slef: maybe PR.png was deleted recently? |
| 17:38 | slef | MU is a speaker, AR is a little book |
| 17:38 | jcamins | bgkriegel specifically added PR. |
| 17:39 | Which makes me think there must have been a PR.png at that time. | |
| 17:39 | slef | jcamins: searching... |
| 17:39 | wahanui | i guess searching is not working |
| 17:39 | slef | Pattern not found |
| 17:40 | drojf | is it safe to assume that when a cataloguer uses 856$u, s/he would include a possible user/password string right into that url and not (only) into subfields h/l and k? |
| 17:40 | jcamins | drojf: with catalogers, there are no safe assumptions. ;) |
| 17:40 | slef: yeah, I don't see any sign of it either. | |
| 17:40 | drojf | i knew that would be the answer :D |
| 17:42 | slef | jcamins: check out the date bgkriegel added it and see if it existed in the tree at that time? |
| 17:42 | * jwagner | dives back into OPAC customizations :-( |
| 17:43 | slef | jcamins: looks like an error to me... |
| 17:44 | drojf | is it maybe more safe to assume that when using 856 subfields a, d, f AND subfield u, the url in $u and the url i can construct from ind.1+ a + d + f would be the same? |
| 17:45 | well, it is now, and i call it drojfs law | |
| 17:45 | jcamins | slef: agreed. |
| 17:45 | drojf: good law. :) | |
| 17:45 | drojf | :) |
| 17:47 | slef | or see if you can see one from http://famfamfam.com/lab/icons/ to use |
| 17:47 | biab | |
| 17:47 | bbl | |
| 17:47 | jcamins | mveron: pick your favorite score-y icon from http://famfamfam.com/lab/icons/ :) |
| 17:48 | drojf | heh |
| 17:48 | mveron | jcamins: OK, will do... :-) It is about music notes on paper, yes? |
| 17:48 | jcamins | mveron: yup. |
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| 17:52 | * jcamins | waves enthusiastically to cait, and comments on just how incredibly cool bug 2060 is. :) |
| 17:52 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2060 enhancement, P3, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Ability to import Authorities from Staff Client |
| 17:53 | jcamins | :D |
| 17:57 | cait | I am sure it is |
| 17:58 | jcamins | So is IT law. |
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| 18:25 | mveron | Bug 8335 done, using file music.png form http://famfamfam.com/lab/icons/ |
| 18:25 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8335 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Missing Icon PR.png or typo in MARC21slim2OPACDetail.xsl |
| 18:25 | jcamins | mveron++ |
| 18:25 | cait | mveron++ indeed :) |
| 18:25 | mveron | Thanks :-) |
| 18:28 | chris_n | @wunder 28334 |
| 18:28 | huginn | chris_n: The current temperature in Erwin, North Carolina is 39.0°C (2:15 PM EDT on June 29, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 31%. Dew Point: 19.0°C. Pressure: 29.81 in 1009 hPa (Falling). Heat advisory in effect until 6 am EDT Saturday... |
| 18:28 | mveron | @wunder Allschwil |
| 18:28 | huginn | mveron: The current temperature in Basel, Basel, Switzerland is 30.7°C (8:25 PM CEST on June 29, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 48%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady). |
| 18:29 | nengard | @wunder 19030 |
| 18:29 | * chris_n | cracks a few eggs on the sidewalk |
| 18:29 | huginn | nengard: The current temperature in Highland Park, Levittown, Pennsylvania is 37.8°C (2:29 PM EDT on June 29, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 41%. Dew Point: 22.0°C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Falling). Excessive heat warning in effect until 8 PM EDT Sunday... |
| 18:29 | nengard | :( |
| 18:29 | jcamins | @wunder 11375 |
| 18:29 | huginn | jcamins: The current temperature in APRSWXNET Jackson Heights NY US, Corona, New York is 33.9°C (2:02 PM EDT on June 29, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 47%. Dew Point: 21.0°C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1004 hPa (Falling). Heat advisory in effect until 7 PM EDT this evening... |
| 18:29 | drojf | @wunder berlin, germany |
| 18:29 | nengard | guess the heat is going south :) |
| 18:29 | huginn | drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Pankow, Weissensee, Germany is 29.2°C (8:29 PM CEST on June 29, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Rising). |
| 18:30 | * mveron | needs some Ice Cream |
| 18:30 | * nengard | had some already |
| 18:30 | nengard | :) |
| 18:30 | mveron | :-) |
| 18:30 | * drojf | needs to put some scottish ale in the fridge |
| 18:30 | chris_n | its supposed to be ~41*C here tomorrow and Sunday |
| 18:31 | nengard | negative? |
| 18:31 | jcamins | Yikes. |
| 18:31 | It's plenty hot here. | |
| 18:33 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 18:33 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 26.9°C (8:30 PM CEST on June 29, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 21.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady). |
| 18:33 | cait | feels much warmer out there |
| 18:33 | SJeffery | @wunder 85705 |
| 18:33 | huginn | SJeffery: The current temperature in Ironwood Hill/Grannen Rd., Tucson, Arizona is 38.7°C (11:30 AM MST on June 29, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 20%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.82 in 1010 hPa (Falling). |
| 18:33 | SJeffery | It is supposed to be 110 here today:( |
| 18:34 | jcamins | @wunder lawrence, ks |
| 18:34 | huginn | jcamins: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 37.1°C (1:33 PM CDT on June 29, 2012). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 33%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Falling). Excessive heat warning in effect until 8 PM CDT this evening... |
| 18:34 | * jcamins | will keep the 34degree weather. |
| 18:34 | SJeffery | Lol, you get to my temps and it is an "excessive heat warning", but for us it iis just another day |
| 18:34 | nengard | hehe |
| 18:34 | I noticed that | |
| 18:35 | tcohen | hi nengard |
| 18:35 | nengard | over here I know the concern is that a lot of people in the city don't have air conditioning - so the elderly and children are at risk when it gets this hot |
| 18:35 | tcohen | what was the field for setting a field to be collapsed in the frameworks? |
| 18:35 | nengard | hi tcohen |
| 18:35 | hidden | |
| 18:35 | jcamins | tcohen: hidden. |
| 18:35 | drojf | so its hot everywhere… |
| 18:35 | @wunder nuuk | |
| 18:35 | huginn | drojf: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 18:35 | jcamins | tcohen: even odds that it will help, though. |
| 18:35 | drojf | @wunder nuuk, greenland |
| 18:35 | huginn | drojf: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 18:35 | drojf | hm |
| 18:36 | tcohen | but I want the field to appear, its just that i want it collapsed by default |
| 18:36 | jcamins | tcohen: right, you set that using hidden. |
| 18:36 | It's documented in the manual. | |
| 18:36 | tcohen | mad librarians are talking about too much noise in the frameworks |
| 18:36 | jcamins | Unfortunately, it only works randomly. |
| 18:37 | nengard | tcohen - i've been complaining about that for years now |
| 18:38 | drojf | its free software, change what you dont like :P |
| 18:38 | nengard | don't have the skills to do that |
| 18:38 | cait | I have to agree with nengard on that |
| 18:38 | nengard | Frameworks are way way way too integrated |
| 18:38 | too much to change | |
| 18:38 | cait | and have you noticed that the hidden works much nicer for authorities? |
| 18:38 | that's insane | |
| 18:38 | jcamins | cait: I'm not surprised. |
| 18:38 | cait: less bolted on. | |
| 18:38 | SJeffery | Sounds like someone should de-integrate it:) |
| 18:39 | jcamins | SJeffery: agreed. We just need a coalition of libraries that's *really* interested in the problem. |
| 18:39 | And a second chris_n. :) | |
| 18:39 | * jcamins | considers. |
| 18:39 | jcamins | Maybe a third as well. |
| 18:39 | cait | heh |
| 18:39 | why a second chris_n? | |
| 18:40 | I was thiking about cloning you :) | |
| 18:40 | jcamins | cait: so one can do chris_n's job, and the other can work on the MARC editor. |
| 18:40 | nengard | hehe |
| 18:40 | jcamins | However, I'm thinking having two chris_ns working on the MARC editor might be necessary. |
| 18:40 | nengard | well i'm an interested librarian |
| 18:40 | jcamins | nengard: by "*really* interested" I meant "willing to devote a very large amount of money to the problem." |
| 18:41 | * chris_n | could use another one of himself, but is not sure he could live with another one of himself ;-) |
| 18:41 | nengard | well I'm willing to devote a "really large amount of opinions" |
| 18:41 | :) | |
| 18:41 | SJeffery | I hate when people say "a really large amount of money" in reference to Koha development. What constitutes a large amount varies by the library |
| 18:41 | drojf | more than one opinion is problems ;) |
| 18:42 | jcamins | SJeffery: I think it's probably a ~$20k problem, though that's just a guess off the top of my head. |
| 18:43 | drojf | either we have libraries sponsor it or we have libraries complain so much to vendors that they change it. nobody touched that "for fun" and nobody ever will i suppose. |
| 18:43 | jcamins | drojf: other than chris_n. ;) |
| 18:44 | cait | drojf: good summary I gues |
| 18:44 | drojf | heh |
| 18:44 | cait | I think there is a patch for an alternative editor |
| 18:44 | i think this could be a way of doing it | |
| 18:44 | add another basic editor and enhance step by step? | |
| 18:45 | * chris_n | has started some work, but it is very early and very pre-alpha |
| 18:45 | chris_n | and subject to radical changes with no notice or even less |
| 18:45 | jcamins | cait: yeah, that would be the way to go, but even that would take too much work to be a weekend project. |
| 18:46 | cait | there is a rebased patch from piano hacker i think |
| 18:46 | in bugzila | |
| 18:46 | chris_n | cait: a total rewrite does appear best and what you've suggested is the basic approach I was taking |
| 18:46 | cait | maybe as a starting point? |
| 18:46 | jcamins | cait: I looked at that. |
| 18:46 | Unfortunately, it doesn't provide an architecture to build on. :( | |
| 18:46 | cait | ah ok |
| 18:47 | I am not a cataloging expert | |
| 18:47 | because we hardly use the module | |
| 18:47 | chris_n | https://github.com/cnighswonge[…]mmits/marc_editor |
| 18:47 | * jcamins | thought he'd redo the cataloging module about a year and a half ago by building on pianohacker's work. |
| 18:47 | chris_n | in case anyone gets really curious |
| 18:47 | * jcamins | was wrong. |
| 18:47 | cait | libraries are using the union catalog software and only do basic cataloging in Koha |
| 18:48 | * jcamins | thinks that is a good choice. |
| 18:49 | cait | yeah, but now I have to teach cataloging in less than 2 weeks |
| 18:49 | ... | |
| 18:49 | it always get to you in the end | |
| 18:51 | SJeffery | More work on the cataloging module interface would be awesome:) |
| 18:57 | tcohen | what's actually the problem with hidden? i guess it is not used by the XSLT's |
| 18:58 | cait | no it never was supposed to |
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| 18:58 | cait | I think |
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| 18:58 | cait | not used by the normal view too I think |
| 18:59 | only the marc views | |
| 18:59 | ok... I think too much | |
| 18:59 | :) | |
| 18:59 | * cait | goes to watch a documentaton about cake |
| 18:59 | tcohen | ciat: but OPAC / Intranet / Collapsed seem to be the options, so its confusing |
| 19:00 | http://manual.koha-community.o[…]marcbibframeworks | |
| 19:00 | ciat = cait | |
| 19:00 | jcamins | tcohen: it's not used in regular mode at all. |
| 19:00 | Rather, it's not used for any non-MARC view. | |
| 19:00 | And it's not used for the raw MARC view. | |
| 19:01 | So basically it is the cataloging module and expanded MARC views only. | |
| 19:01 | tcohen | so, it works, but is not well documented |
| 19:01 | jcamins | tcohen: no, it doesn't work for those three things I listed either. |
| 19:02 | Well, sometimes it does. | |
| 19:02 | But sometimes it doesn't. | |
| 19:02 | And there doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason to when it works and when it doesn't. | |
| 19:02 | At least, that's been my experience. | |
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| 19:03 | Oak_afk | cait! |
| 19:03 | magnuse | |
| 19:04 | Oak | jcamins! |
| 19:04 | wahanui | i guess jcamins is A-Grade developper on Koha willing to rewrite it from top to bottom. Good Luck jcamins |
| 19:04 | cait | hi Oak |
| 19:04 | Oak | good to see everyone :) |
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| 19:04 | jcamins | Oak! |
| 19:04 | Oak | not everyone |
| 19:04 | wahanui | not everyone is youtubing at this time of day |
| 19:04 | cait | jcamins: i agree with your experience |
| 19:04 | Oak | i mean Brooke is not here |
| 19:04 | druthb | |
| 19:04 | others | |
| 19:05 | tcohen | jcamins: collapsed/!collapsed seems to work deterministicaly |
| 19:05 | Oak | @wunder islamabad |
| 19:05 | huginn | Oak: The current temperature in Islamabad, Pakistan is 31.0°C (12:00 AM PKT on June 30, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 40%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.53 in 1000 hPa (Falling). |
| 19:06 | tcohen | @wunder cordoba, argentina |
| 19:06 | huginn | tcohen: The current temperature in Cordoba Aerodrome, Argentina is 22.0°C (3:00 PM ART on June 29, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 27%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Falling). |
| 19:06 | tcohen | mmm, think of levaing to play some tennis :-D |
| 19:08 | Oak | like, real tennis? |
| 19:12 | maximep | yay, time to upgrade to 3.8 and send a ton of patches to the community. This should be fun =) |
| 19:14 | jcamins | maximep: woohoo! |
| 19:15 | cait | maximep: woohoo :) |
| 19:15 | maximep | hmmm I forgot... do I have to do a git format-patch or is a git diff in a .patch enough ? |
| 19:16 | jcamins | git format-patch. |
| 19:16 | git diff is pretty much useless. | |
| 19:16 | maximep | well then it's time to squash commits -_- |
| 19:16 | cait | that's not so bad, keep smiling :) |
| 19:17 | maximep | is there an easier way than a rebase -i ? |
| 19:17 | jcamins | maximep: nope. |
| 19:18 | liw | maximep, do a new branch of your branch, then rebase the one -- that way, if you make a mistake in the rebasing, you can easily go back |
| 19:18 | maximep | sure |
| 19:18 | jcamins | Right, that's a good idea. |
| 19:18 | * liw | learned that the hard way |
| 19:18 | * jcamins | too. |
| 19:18 | maximep | yeah I did too haha |
| 19:18 | liw | (several times) |
| 19:20 | maximep | oops, squashed all of them instead of leaving one. it's friday after all -_- |
| 19:25 | tcohen | Oak: I play top spin 4 :-P |
| 19:25 | but I really play *real* tennis | |
| 19:25 | (i was talking about real tennis this time :-P) | |
| 19:31 | maximep | yay @ me for my first patch in months |
| 19:31 | cait | :) |
| 19:31 | maximep++ | |
| 19:37 | * mveron | has rebased Bug 7563 for the nth time... |
| 19:37 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7563 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, Signed Off , Silent print slips using Firefox PlugIn jsPrintSetup and new staff client preference |
| 19:38 | cait | is it waitin gfor qa? |
| 19:38 | tcohen | i love that feature mveron! |
| 19:38 | can't belive someone took it | |
| 19:40 | cait | @later tell sekjal could you please take a look at bug 7563? Lots of rebasing done already - would be good to see that moving forward :) |
| 19:40 | huginn | cait: The operation succeeded. |
| 19:41 | mveron | cait: Yes. signed off by Chris, then see comments 17, 18, 19 |
| 19:42 | cait: Thanks :-) | |
| 19:42 | cait | not sure it will be any help :) |
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| 20:21 | mveron | Good night everybody :-) |
| 20:21 | mbalmer | ha! |
| 20:22 | just missed him... | |
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| 21:12 | rangi | melia_lunch: patch attached |
| 21:21 | melia_lunch | yay! thank you so much |
| 21:23 | rangi | if you could look at bug 8087 |
| 21:23 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8087 normal, P2, ---, henridamien, NEW , Calendar not working in dropbox mode |
| 21:23 | rangi | from the name its a duplicate |
| 21:23 | but albert added something about even and odd .. which makes no sense to me, so i didnt close it | |
| 21:24 | melia | yes. makes no sense to me either. |
| 21:24 | I'll try and find out what albert is talking about on monday. | |
| 21:25 | rangi | thanks :) |
| 21:34 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #77 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 21:46 | jcamins | Bug 8311 |
| 21:46 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8311 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Mis-scoped function call in C4::Auth |
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| 21:50 | rangi | hmm |
| 21:50 | bug 3280 | |
| 21:50 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3280 normal, P3, ---, semarie-koha, Pushed to Master , opac/opac-sendbasket.pl security leaky |
| 21:51 | rangi | + 'X-Orig-IP' => $ENV{'REMOTE_ADDR'}, |
| 21:51 | i dont think thats right | |
| 21:52 | thats putting the ip of the user, not the mailserver that send the mail | |
| 21:52 | and its gonna be things like proxies or all sorts of other things | |
| 21:53 | jcamins | No, that's correct to the extent that it can be correct given that I don't think my patch for bug 7800 ever made it. |
| 21:53 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7800 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Pushed to Master , admin/matching-rules.pl plack scoping |
| 21:53 | jcamins | Hm. |
| 21:53 | Bug 7400? | |
| 21:53 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7400 enhancement, P3, ---, matthias.meusburger, Pushed to Master , Add auto-completion on auth_finder |
| 21:53 | jcamins | Hm. |
| 21:53 | @query reverse proxy | |
| 21:53 | huginn | jcamins: No results for "reverse proxy." |
| 21:53 | jcamins | @query remote ip |
| 21:53 | huginn | jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3068 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha.sekjal, NEW , Auth.pm: IP address matching overly generous |
| 21:53 | jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5511 normal, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, amit.gupta, Failed QA , Check for Change in Remote IP address for Session Security. Disable when remote ip address changes frequently. | |
| 21:53 | jcamins | @query handle proxies |
| 21:53 | huginn | jcamins: No results for "handle proxies." |
| 21:54 | jcamins | Bug 6800. |
| 21:54 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6800 major, P3, ---, jcamins, RESOLVED WONTFIX, Koha authentication should handle proxies better |
| 21:54 | jcamins | There we go. |
| 21:54 | rangi | im just wondering if it is usual or even expected practice to set the ip of the originating email, to not be where it originated, but the ip of some user who is using the website instead |
| 21:54 | jcamins | Yes. |
| 21:55 | I've noticed that on sites I've used. | |
| 21:55 | rangi | its supposed to be of the client, the client is the webserver |
| 21:56 | its of the client connecting to the mailserver, not the browser connecting to a website | |
| 21:56 | jcamins | Hm. |
| 21:56 | In that case it would be wrong. | |
| 21:57 | * jcamins | _has_ noticed that behavior on other websites, though. |
| 21:57 | rangi | yep, its some MS thing, that they introduced to hotmail in 99 |
| 21:58 | thats become a defacto standard | |
| 21:58 | so there probably arent any actual rules | |
| 21:58 | :) | |
| 21:58 | jcamins | And it's an MS thing, so they probably wouldn't make sense anyway. |
| 21:59 | rangi | hmm not sure wether to push it to 3.8.x or not |
| 21:59 | not because of that | |
| 22:00 | more because it makes it impossible to send a cart without being logged in | |
| 22:00 | which is a big behaviour change | |
| 22:00 | and not something i want to slip in, mid cycle | |
| 22:00 | jcamins | Agreed. |
| 22:04 | I'm not sure I like the idea of not allowing anonymous users to send carts. | |
| 22:05 | What if they find a book they are interested in while browsing another library's catalog? | |
| 22:07 | * jcamins | calls it a day. |
| 22:13 | * magnuse | calls it a summer |
| 22:13 | magnuse | see you guys in 3 weeks time! |
| 22:26 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.8.x build #77: SUCCESS in 52 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.8.x/77/ |
| 22:26 | mtj: Bug 8315 - fix 'C4::Output 3.02' errors in Koha | |
| 22:26 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8315 major, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, ASSIGNED , fix 'C4::Output 3.02' errors in Koha |
| 22:26 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #78 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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| 23:19 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.8.x build #78: SUCCESS in 52 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.8.x/78/ |
| 23:19 | * jcamins: Bug 8311: Fix scoping error in C4::Auth | |
| 23:19 | * Chris Cormack: Bug 6350 : Updating history | |
| 23:19 | * paul.poulain: bug 6350 (history.txt) fixing typo | |
| 23:19 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8311 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Stable , Mis-scoped function call in C4::Auth |
| 23:19 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6350 trivial, P5 - low, ---, nengard, Pushed to Master , Bug for tracking updates to the history file | |
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| 23:49 | jcamins_away | Hm. Is there a good reason why /var/spool/koha/$instance/ belongs to root and not $instance-koha? |
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