IRC log for #koha, 2012-06-24

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07:56 cait-m__ waves
08:02 rangi hi cait-m__
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08:23 francharb morning #koha
08:23 rangi hi francharb
08:23 working on sunday?
08:24 francharb hi rangi
08:24 yep
08:24 I'm a bit late on different project
08:24 rangi ahh
08:24 know that feeling :)
08:24 francharb :)
08:24 and you, what are you doing?
08:25 rangi signing off some patches and watching tv
08:25 pretty usual sunday :)
08:25 francharb :)
08:25 rangi sunday evening anyway
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08:42 rangi hi drojf
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09:25 drojf good evening rangi
09:54 according to untappd, "chris house" seems to be an interesting pub
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10:59 * magnuse waves
10:59 magnuse @wunder boo
10:59 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 20.0°C (12:20 PM CEST on June 24, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 40%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Steady).
11:00 magnuse woohoo!
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12:51 jcamins_away chris_n: don't suppose you are around?
13:02 wizzyrea: what about you? Don't suppose you're around?
13:03 rangi won't be...
13:03 gmcharlt: any chance you're wandering by a computer right about now?
13:19 jenkins_koha Starting build #53 for job Koha_3.6.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
14:03 Project Koha_3.6.x build #53: SUCCESS in 44 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.6.x/53/
14:03 * f.demians: Koha 3.6.6 Translation Update
14:03 * jcamins: Update 3.6.6 release notes with translations
14:03 * jcamins: Updating version for 3.6.6 release
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14:44 druthb o/
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18:02 drojf kohawiki++ #need to make a syspref, it's all explained :)
18:22 jcamins drojf: kohawiki?
18:22 Oh.
18:22 Got it.
18:22 Koha wiki.
18:22 :)
18:24 drojf :)
18:29 * jcamins is a bit slow sometimes.
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18:41 drojf what do i do to get my syspref added to mysql in my git installation? manually run installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl that i just edited?
18:41 jcamins drojf: exactly.
18:41 liw jcamins, yours is the kind of slowness others aspire to
18:44 jcamins liw: awww. Thanks.
18:55 drojf jcamins: could you test something for me? only takes a minute
19:01 jcamins drojf: I can try.
19:02 Yay! I fixed a bug in the release notes generation script.
19:03 drojf jcamins++
19:05 jcamins drojf++
19:06 drojf thanks for trying!
19:06 jcamins You'll be sharing that, I trust?
19:07 drojf sure. gotta end up in the koha timeline finally :)
19:07 but its not done yet
19:07 jcamins :)
19:07 drojf aaand marc21 and unimarc seem to be d'accord with the field numbers. can't believe it :)
19:09 jcamins o.O
19:09 Wow.
19:09 Don't get used to it.
19:09 drojf i won't :D
19:12 * drojf takes a walk in the rain before its completely dark
19:30 francharb jcamins++ for the httprecorder.pl wiki page
19:31 jcamins francharb: it's *really* easy.
19:31 francharb I started a documentation during edinburgh hackfest but I had some problem during log in
19:32 but, it looks like you find a way to log in...
19:32 "Logging in with Test::WWW::Mechanize "
19:32 :)
19:32 \0/
19:32 I'm going to test it as soon as I can
19:32 jcamins Yeah, I only used it on 3.6, so I didn't know that there was some change that made it not work on 3.8.
19:33 I found out yesterday.
19:33 Took me four hours to figure out how to login. :(
19:33 francharb at least, you found something to make it works...
19:33 ;)
19:33 jcamins Yup. :)
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19:37 cait-m__ waved
19:37 francharb cait-m__, 0/
19:38 jcamins o/
19:38 cait-m__ hi :-)
19:40 mveron Hi everybody :-)
19:42 * mveron just published Bug 8301
19:42 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8301 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, NEW , Display additional system information (preferences) on About page to minimize support cases
19:43 jcamins Ooh, rangi is awake.
19:43 This is good.
19:43 He can give me access to download.k-c.org so that I can officially release 3.6.6.
19:43 (I finished it a while ago, but forgot that I didn't have access to upload it)
19:48 rangi Yep when I get to work
19:48 francharb hi rangi
19:48 :)
19:49 rangi Heya francharb :)
19:50 @wunder nzwn
19:50 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 12.0°C (7:00 AM NZST on June 25, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.62 in 1003 hPa (Steady).
19:50 rangi Our winter is Edinburgh summer
19:51 We have passed shortest day of the year now too so should start warming up again
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19:59 eythian hmm, may have fixed the wifi here, fingers crossed.
19:59 @wunder brighton, uk
19:59 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Brighton, Brighton, United Kingdom is 16.0°C (8:45 PM BST on June 24, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 95%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady).
20:03 mveron @wunder Basel
20:03 rangi jcamins: will be a little while yet. Have my fortnightly breakfast with librarians first
20:03 huginn mveron: The current temperature in Basel, Switzerland is 20.9°C (10:02 PM CEST on June 24, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 57%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady).
20:04 jcamins rangi: okay. I'll bug someone else if they're around before then. :)
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20:07 * jcamins is very good at bugging people. :)
20:10 drojf back
20:10 and wet :D
20:11 @wunder berlin, germany
20:11 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Pankow, Weissensee, Germany is 15.0°C (10:10 PM CEST on June 24, 2012). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Rising).
20:11 mveron @wunder kiew
20:11 huginn mveron: Error: No such location could be found.
20:11 mveron @wunder kiev
20:11 huginn mveron: Error: No such location could be found.
20:12 mveron @wunder Киев
20:12 huginn mveron: Error: No such location could be found.
20:12 jcamins @wunder kyiv
20:12 huginn jcamins: The current temperature in Kyiv, Ukraine is 18.0°C (11:00 PM EEST on June 24, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Falling).
20:13 * jcamins has been paying attention to politics in that region. :)
20:13 mveron :-)
20:14 francharb bye all!
20:14 good night
20:14 drojf hi mveron :)
20:14 francharb good day
20:14 ;)
20:14 drojf night francharb
20:16 mveron hi drojf
20:16 drojf working late?
20:17 mveron Looking England Italia and doing some Koha stuff.
20:17 e.g. Bug 8301
20:17 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8301 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, NEW , Display additional system information (preferences) on About page to minimize support cases
20:19 drojf cool! i like it
20:19 mveron++
20:19 mveron Thanks...
20:20 I'm walking now through the documentation to find some other preferences to check
20:22 drojf maybe these things could also show up at the preference screen when trying to have bad combinations. or prevent them even? somehow it should not be possible to save settings that break things in the first place
20:24 mveron drojf: I agree, but I think it would require a lot of work regarding the preference system.
20:24 jcamins Yeah. Also, there are very few combinations of system preferences that are just *wrong*.
20:25 drojf probably. i don't know much about that yet, i just made my first syspref :)
20:25 mveron With my proposition we can catch the most common error or mistakes
20:25 jcamins Having NoZebra set to "Do not use" is the only one that is absolutely, definitively, a mistake.
20:27 eythian do you have that backwards?
20:27 (sysprefs in the negative should be banned I think)
20:28 mveron ?
20:28 jcamins There are other things that often cause problems, but we can't really prevent people setting them, because they are there for a good reason.
20:28 eythian: no, I have the right.
20:28 eythian: NoZebra = "Do/Do not use Zebra."
20:28 NoZebra should be entirely eradicated.
20:28 NoZebra does not even sort of function.
20:28 eythian oh right. Yeah, it's a terrible name for a preference. Forgetting the context like I just did inverts its meaning
20:29 jcamins Right.
20:29 eythian but yes, it should be removed.
20:29 mveron jcamins: See comments on Bug 8298
20:29 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8298 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Can't call method "subfield" on an undefined value at Biblio.pm (sub _AddBiblioNoZebra)
20:29 eythian also: we need to have better detection of the Zebra server going missing
20:29 drojf i think it is only there so you can switch from nozebra to zebra. that is odd ;)
20:29 jcamins mveron: yes, I saw that.
20:30 Removing NoZebra is on my to-do list.
20:30 Unfortunately, my to-do list is much too long, and that is just not something that makes it very high.
20:30 drojf remove nozebra now, remove zebra later :D
20:30 mveron eythian: Zebra not running could be a great thing on the About: System" Tab, but I do not know how to get the information
20:30 jcamins drojf: well, let's keep Zebra awhile longer.
20:31 mveron I mean an information like "Zebra sever not runnig, please start it"
20:32 jcamins mveron: agreed. I don't know how to check that either.
20:33 mveron Do a search on letter 'a'. if we have no results Zebra is supposed not tu run  :-)
20:33 to run
20:33 drojf depends on the language
20:33 jcamins ^^
20:33 drojf and/ or script
20:34 mveron и  :-)
20:36 drojf is there a way in perl to check if a file exists on some webserver?
20:36 (not related to checking for running zebras)
20:37 jcamins drojf: -d ?
20:37 drojf: I'm not quite sure what you want, though.
20:38 drojf: if you mean on a remote web server, perhaps you could try downloading the file?
20:38 drojf yes a remote webserver, not the local one
20:38 eythian mveron: well, if you do a search, presumably an error condition occurs somewhere that we could pick up and say something meaningful other than "no results found"
20:38 drojf yes, i thought there might be something better
20:39 jcamins drojf: I think you just have to do a HEAD request?
20:39 eythian drojf: do a head request, see if you get a 404 error
20:39 mveron eythian: Thanks. I'll do some tests
20:41 drojf sounds good, thanks
20:42 mveron: that game could use a goal or two
20:43 mveron drojf: Yes, waiting...
20:57 rangi jcamins: what do you want your username to be? jcamins?
21:02 jcamins rangi: jcamins would be perfect.
21:03 rangi done
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21:18 jcamins All uploaded.
21:18 * jcamins sends the e-mail and publishes the announcement.
21:19 jcamins Done.
21:19 3.6.6 has been released.
21:19 And 3.6.7 is going to have a much smoother path to release.
21:20 * jcamins is teaching his release script to send the e-mail for him, and provide the post for copy and paste.
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21:50 mveron Good night everybody :-)
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22:58 * druthb waves to talljoy.
22:58 talljoy hey druthb!!!!
22:58 wahanui well, druthb is a migration specialist and great friend
22:58 talljoy wahanui is a genius!
22:58 druthb wahanui: botsnack cookie
22:58 wahanui :)
22:58 druthb puh.
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