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| 00:14 | * jcamins | gazes in befuddlement at the subroutine he just discovered in C4::Circulation. sub TooMany. |
| 00:20 | rangi | heh there be dragons |
| 00:20 | i think about 50 ppl have poked at that | |
| 00:21 | jcamins | And did anyone ever figure out what the sub's name referred to? |
| 00:22 | Myshkin suggests it's the number of times I try to use my computer when he's waiting for petting. | |
| 00:26 | GetRecordValue = a sub to use to get something that is neither a value nor part of a record | |
| 00:34 | rangi | i think toomany issues of a given item |
| 00:34 | is what it used to do | |
| 00:34 | jcamins | Thankfully that's not code I need to look at, but I'm a little perplexed by what "too many issues" means. |
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| 00:48 | rangi | checkouts in your parlance :) |
| 00:54 | jcamins | rangi: I know what you mean by issues. |
| 00:55 | What I'm not sure of is too many in what context. | |
| 00:55 | The item has been issued too many times, historically? The book has been issued too many times without being discharged? | |
| 00:58 | Oh. | |
| 00:59 | I'm tearing my hair out wondering why I keep on getting an error from MARC::Field::update. | |
| 00:59 | It would be because there is no 942 field. | |
| 01:17 | My favorite comment that I've seen today: # Otherwise, it'd need a POD. | |
| 01:19 | The comment, by the way, is inaccurate. | |
| 01:19 | POD is very much required. | |
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| 01:46 | rangi | jcamins: this borrower has too many current issues of this type |
| 01:49 | jcamins | rangi: ah. |
| 01:49 | Thanks. | |
| 02:53 | jcamins_away | git_hooks++ |
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| 04:37 | Oak | kia ora #koha |
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| 04:38 | cait | hi #koha |
| 04:40 | Oak | hello cait :) |
| 04:40 | cait | hi Oak |
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| 06:01 | vkm | hello koha users |
| 06:01 | Oak | hello vkm |
| 06:03 | vkm | i wanted to search exact baarcodecode number but system search for string so if i searched 100 it gives 1000, 2100 etc please let me know how can i search only exact b |
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| 06:22 | alex_a | bonjour #koha |
| 06:22 | cait | hi alex_a |
| 06:22 | alex_a | hi cait :) |
| 06:24 | vkm | publication date range search is not working pls suggest |
| 06:24 | eythian | vkm: it bases it on copyright date |
| 06:26 | vkm | so how we should enter the record pls |
| 06:26 | in which tag | |
| 06:27 | eythian | I don't have the reference handy, but I think it maps to copydate or some such |
| 06:28 | cait | vkm: one of the 00x |
| 06:28 | always forget which one | |
| 06:29 | it's also used for publication date sorting | |
| 06:29 | vkm | i used only 260 |
| 06:30 | 260c marc | |
| 06:33 | please suggest which other field shoul i use | |
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| 06:34 | cait | vkm: check the marc documentation |
| 06:35 | 008 | |
| 06:35 | pos 7-10 | |
| 06:35 | http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd008a.html | |
| 06:35 | you should use both | |
| 06:35 | 260 c is for display, 008 for search | |
| 06:36 | vkm | so same field 260c i can use in 008 |
| 06:36 | eythian | I often switch the search to 260c |
| 06:36 | vkm: not quite. You'll need to read the marc docs to see how it works. | |
| 06:37 | cait | vkm 008 is always a four digit year |
| 06:37 | in 260 c you can put whatever you like | |
| 06:37 | eythian | I really need to make my migration tools handle those weirdo fields. |
| 06:37 | They always annoy me. | |
| 06:37 | cait | like (c) 2010 or [2010] or whatever |
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| 06:39 | reiveune | hello |
| 06:39 | wahanui | hey, reiveune |
| 06:40 | vkm | so can i make one marc field like 008 //$2012, please advice |
| 06:40 | at the time of data import how to use 260c in 008 | |
| 06:41 | cait | check the marc documentation |
| 06:41 | I can't tell you more than that | |
| 06:41 | it's afield with with fixed length | |
| 06:41 | 008 //$2012 < wont't work | |
| 06:42 | vkm | yes i am not understanding 008 so i did not used it only i used Leader 000 |
| 06:43 | cait | take a look at the link I posted |
| 06:43 | I have to go now | |
| 06:44 | vkm | ok i am checking and understanding |
| 06:44 | thx all | |
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| 07:09 | magnuse | kia ora #koha! |
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| 07:18 | kf | hi #koha |
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| 07:28 | magnuse | hiya alex_a1 hdl1 laurence1 kf reiveune1 |
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| 07:29 | reiveune1 | hi magnuse |
| 07:29 | magnuse | bonjour! |
| 07:29 | francharb | good morning! |
| 07:31 | sophie_m | hello #koha |
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| 07:35 | alex_a1 | bonjour magnuse ! |
| 07:36 | kf | hi magnuse :) |
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| 07:41 | samuel | hi everybody :-) |
| 07:41 | kf | hi samuel :) |
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| 07:43 | samuel | we have this morning an unwaited problem on 3.8: when we want to add a biblio, we have this error "Tag "0" is not a valid tag. at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Biblio.pm line 2305". |
| 07:43 | kf | oh |
| 07:43 | which framework are you using? | |
| 07:44 | and did you change something in the koha-to-marc-mappings or indexing? | |
| 07:45 | samuel | no change |
| 07:48 | magnuse | samuel: do you get that error when the cataloguing interface is displayed, or when you try to save a record? |
| 07:49 | samuel | when i try to save a record |
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| 07:51 | magnuse | seems to work in master |
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| 07:59 | samuel | tag 0 is label and it doesn't work |
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| 08:01 | kf | samuel: did you add the record manually or did you download from z39.50? |
| 08:03 | samuel | whatever the method (i've tried manually and by z39.50), it doesn 't work |
| 08:04 | kf | and you are using the default framework? |
| 08:05 | samuel | yes, we don't need fast cataloging |
| 08:05 | kf | and it used to work before? in this installation? |
| 08:05 | samuel | yes |
| 08:05 | kf | weird |
| 08:07 | samuel | i'll try something, i'll back soon |
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| 08:38 | magnuse | Koha in The Shire - yay! http://blog.cr2.in/2012/05/16/[…]ary-chooses-koha/ |
| 08:38 | calyx++ | |
| 08:39 | kf | calyx++ :) |
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| 10:24 | Oak | \o |
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| 11:13 | vfernandes | guys one question... how it works the Koha Offline application? |
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| 11:15 | eythian_home | vfernandes: there was some documentation about that that was sent to the Koha list just a few days ago, if you have a look in the list archives you should be able to find it. |
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| 11:17 | vfernandes | ok... but what is the structure of one KOC file |
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| 11:19 | eythian_home | I don't know. Probably creating one and looking at it is your best bet. |
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| 11:24 | vfernandes | humm ok |
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| 12:25 | oleonard | Hi everyone |
| 12:27 | kf | hi oleonard :) |
| 12:27 | very quiet day today | |
| 12:27 | oleonard | Quiet week |
| 12:30 | kf | hm only on #koha |
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| 12:53 | * oleonard | thinks he'll bug fix again today. It's just too much fun. |
| 12:56 | kf | don't tempt me! :) |
| 12:56 | * oleonard | throws his arms in the air and shouts Wheeeeeeee!! |
| 12:57 | kf | meany |
| 12:57 | * sekjal | has just written his first patch for a Dokuwiki plugin... not as much fun as patching Koha, to be sure |
| 12:57 | oleonard | Why not sekjal? |
| 12:58 | sekjal | I've gotten used to Perl... going back to PHP is less exciting for me |
| 12:58 | also, the feature I just added is... very very limited | |
| 12:58 | not even necessarily a good idea | |
| 12:58 | oleonard | :) |
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| 13:08 | kf | sekjal: now I am curious :) |
| 13:09 | sekjal | kf: there is a plugin for Dokuwiki that will reformat a date string into "XX days since|until <somemessage>" |
| 13:09 | it's called Countdown | |
| 13:10 | my feature is to just display the XX part, so you can do other math on the result | |
| 13:10 | kf | ah :) |
| 13:10 | sound snot too bad of a feature | |
| 13:10 | I mean, doesn't sound like a bad idea :) | |
| 13:11 | sekjal | my first pass at it doesn't handle units other than days very well... |
| 13:12 | not sure if it's worth fixing or not | |
| 13:12 | mostly I just want a way to highlight things that are going to expire "soon" | |
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| 13:21 | kf | Oak++ |
| 13:23 | oleonard | ? |
| 13:25 | kf | nice mail |
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| 13:33 | jcamins_away | @later tell druthb See you June 4 in Kansas City! :D |
| 13:33 | huginn | jcamins_away: The operation succeeded. |
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| 14:02 | oleonard | addbooks.pl requires "edit_catalogue" permission, but the template checks for "CAN_user_editcatalogue_edit_catalogue" in a couple of places. Is it just me or is that nonsensical? |
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| 14:03 | oleonard | If you "CAN'T_user_editcatalogue_edit_catalogue" you can't get to the page! |
| 14:04 | the follow-up question is: Shouldn't you be able to get to that page if you have edit_items permission? | |
| 14:06 | hdl1 | oleonard: druth: jcamins_away: is there any cronjob to regularly update/create patrons from an LDAP in the koha version ? Has there ever been any need for that ? We had... But we may be quite |
| 14:06 | unusual | |
| 14:07 | * oleonard | has no idea. |
| 14:07 | oleonard | druthb I think is traveling back home today |
| 14:07 | Seems logical to me though | |
| 14:08 | sekjal | hdl1: would this be to pre-populate the Koha DB with users from the LDAP, before their first login to the OPAC? |
| 14:11 | hdl1 | sekjal: yep |
| 14:11 | or to update accounts from LDAP regularly... | |
| 14:12 | sekjal | wouldn't work with auth_by_bind, since you wouldn't have the account passwords. |
| 14:12 | but if that's not a problem, I think it could be a pretty handy feature | |
| 14:12 | I recall folks asking for something like that back in my support-vendor days | |
| 14:13 | wizzyrea | oleonard: I think the syspref is like, "asking a question" - can the user editcatalogue (major permission group) Edit the Catalogue (minor permission) |
| 14:13 | hdl1 | sekjal: all you would need is a user with read access. |
| 14:14 | iirc we have that working with an auth_by_bind | |
| 14:15 | oleonard | I don't understand what you're getting at wizzyrea |
| 14:15 | kf | oleonard++ |
| 14:15 | sekjal | hdl1: it's possible, if the LDAP had such a user. my experience tends to be with Active Directory connections, which don't like doing that |
| 14:16 | wizzyrea | it's ok, i'm probably not making sense. |
| 14:16 | also, good morning | |
| 14:18 | hdl1 | mmm could be. |
| 14:19 | oleonard | Am I correct that this syntax will give access to users with either one or the other permission? |
| 14:19 | flagsrequired => { editcatalogue => 'edit_catalogue', editcatalogue => 'edit_items' }, | |
| 14:19 | Seems to be the case based on my test but I wanted to make sure | |
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| 14:27 | oleonard | Or does that require both? |
| 14:28 | hdl | sekjal: bug 8123 |
| 14:28 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8123 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , cronjob to pre-populate/Update patrons from ldap data |
| 14:28 | hdl | if of some interest |
| 14:29 | sekjal | hdl: cool |
| 14:31 | oleonard | Or maybe it only requires the second one :P |
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| 15:03 | reiveune | bye |
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| 15:28 | oleonard | wizzyrea still around? |
| 15:28 | wizzyrea | yessir |
| 15:29 | oleonard | Did you figure out what you needed to know about putting an item edit link on the detail page? |
| 15:29 | Seems like a reasonable idea to me | |
| 15:30 | wizzyrea | well mostly I just didn't want to go to the trouble of doing it if you thought it was not a good idea. |
| 15:30 | but yes, I think I did. :) | |
| 15:31 | * oleonard | wonders if we shouldn't go ahead and put both edit and delete links? |
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| 15:31 | wizzyrea | well... |
| 15:38 | oleonard | welllllll... |
| 15:41 | wizzyrea | I suppose you could want to delete from that page too |
| 15:41 | if we had the in-table editing thinger we could get rid of additem.pl altogether. | |
| 15:41 | well, the editing and deleting portions of it anyway | |
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| 16:02 | datadoctor | @wunderground Kent, OH |
| 16:02 | huginn | datadoctor: I suck |
| 16:02 | datadoctor | oops wrong code |
| 16:03 | It's the most beautiful day here - what am I doing in a windowless office? | |
| 16:03 | ...Looking at code... | |
| 16:03 | kf | you have a windowless office? :( |
| 16:03 | @wunder Konstanz | |
| 16:03 | huginn | kf: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 16.0°C (6:00 PM CEST on May 18, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Rising). |
| 16:03 | * kf | is sitting right nedt to the open window |
| 16:03 | datadoctor | I do like having an office... |
| 16:04 | @wunder Kent, OH | |
| 16:04 | huginn | datadoctor: The current temperature in Kent State Geography, Kent, Ohio is 23.6°C (12:03 PM EDT on May 18, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 30%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady). |
| 16:04 | datadoctor | Luckily I get called out to solve computer problems, so I circulate through the whole library. |
| 16:04 | oleonard | http://buttersafe.com/2012/05/17/swimsuit-season/ |
| 16:05 | datadoctor | Our resident artist, Lori, just painted a beautiful moonscape on the window for the Children's department, with astronauts and space creatures. |
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| 16:44 | bag | @wunder 93109 |
| 16:44 | huginn | bag: The current temperature in K6LCM-Westside/Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 19.1°C (9:44 AM PDT on May 18, 2012). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.91 in 1013 hPa (Rising). Wind Advisory in effect until 3 am PDT Saturday... |
| 16:44 | oleonard | Hi ByWaterians |
| 16:46 | * kf | waves |
| 16:46 | wizzyrea | datadoctor ooh! picture? |
| 16:51 | bag | heh hi :P |
| 16:57 | * oleonard | welcomes wizzyrea to the patch party |
| 16:58 | wizzyrea | there was a patch party? |
| 16:58 | s/was/is | |
| 16:58 | oleonard | Admission: one patch. |
| 16:58 | wizzyrea | :D |
| 16:58 | * wizzyrea | has quite a few of those already |
| 16:58 | wizzyrea | but not today, necessarily |
| 16:58 | guess I should send that to the list too | |
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| 17:09 | Oak | kia ora #koha |
| 17:09 | time to go home kf | |
| 17:09 | kf | you are right Oak :) |
| 17:09 | Oak | pack up |
| 17:09 | :) | |
| 17:09 | kf | in 2 minutes |
| 17:09 | waitng for this import to finish | |
| 17:10 | Oak | okay fine. 2 minutes. |
| 17:10 | :) | |
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| 18:00 | cait | slef: around? |
| 18:11 | jcamins | kyleh: I saw your changes to the plugins code. |
| 18:12 | The unzipping looks better. | |
| 18:16 | kyleh: I'm still concerned about +Exec in the plugins directory, and the fact that using plugins doesn't require *both* a configuration setting in koha-conf.xml (defaulting to off) and a syspref. | |
| 18:17 | kyleh: I didn't mention this yesterday, but an additional issue from a security point of view is that there's no way to disable uploading from the client and still enable plugins. That should be possible from koha-conf.xml. | |
| 18:20 | melia: well, at least you're getting feedback on the bug, even if a sign off is not yet forthcoming, right? | |
| 18:20 | :) | |
| 18:20 | melia | yes, definitely! |
| 18:44 | jcamins | wizzyrea: while you're adding a floating menu, add a "clone" button. |
| 18:44 | :) | |
| 18:54 | kyleh | jcamins: I can add a setting in koha-conf.xml, I'm not sure what we can do about the +Exec, isn't it required for apache to be able to run the perl scripts? |
| 18:55 | jcamins | kyleh: right, that's why I think the thing to do is use Module::Load::Conditional. |
| 18:55 | kyleh | jcamins: I still don't grok that module, any chance you'd want to write a followup to mine ; ) |
| 18:56 | does anyone know what saved_sql.cache_expiry does? | |
| 18:56 | jcamins | kyleh: yes, it sets when the cached report expires. |
| 18:57 | kyleh: I'm not sure why it's not allowed to be NULL, because it definitely was allowed to be NULL in the patch I did. | |
| 18:57 | kyleh | it's an int(11), can't be null. In master you cannot save an sql report as it cannot be null. |
| 18:57 | jcamins | kyleh: right, I mean, there's no reason it shouldn't be allowed to be NULL. |
| 18:57 | kyleh | should I just patch it to allow it to be null then? |
| 18:58 | jcamins | kyleh: yes. |
| 18:58 | kyleh | will do! |
| 18:58 | jcamins | kyleh: another option would be to set it to 0, but, as I said, that shouldn't be necessary. |
| 18:59 | I guess option C is to do both, so we can be double-sure. ;) | |
| 18:59 | kyleh | setting to 0 would bypass the need for a db rev, I think I'll go with that. |
| 19:00 | jcamins | kyleh: good point. That's my favorite option too now that you mention it. |
| 19:04 | kyleh | bug 8128 patch submitted |
| 19:04 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8128 blocker, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , can't seem to run new sql reports |
| 19:05 | jcamins | If cait doesn't have a chance, I'll sign off when I get a chance (probably not until tomorrow, alas). |
| 19:06 | cait | not sure I can... accounting |
| 19:06 | *sigh* | |
| 19:08 | jcamins | Right, cait _definitely_ can't sign off. |
| 19:08 | If neither nengard nor magnuse get to it before I do, I'll sign off on it. | |
| 19:34 | nengard_lunch | jcamins i can sign off but it won't count |
| 19:34 | * wizzyrea | might get to that right now |
| 19:34 | jcamins | Even better, we can delegate to wizzyrea. :) |
| 19:35 | nengard | i signed off |
| 19:35 | you can sign off on mine | |
| 19:37 | wizzyrea | yup, assuming it passes tests, i'm done testing |
| 19:37 | works a treat. | |
| 19:38 | passes *automated tests | |
| 19:54 | sekjal | happy weekend, everyone! |
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| 22:35 | druthb | o/ |
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