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| 01:35 | jcamins_away | eythian: do you want me to upload the 3.6.x packages? |
| 01:35 | eythian | jcamins_away: to what end? |
| 01:35 | jcamins_away | To save you the trouble. |
| 01:36 | eythian | I think they will just get removed when the next update is pushed. |
| 01:36 | jcamins_away | For future 3.6.x packages. |
| 01:36 | eythian | I currently don't build older versions of the stable line. |
| 01:36 | jcamins_away | I'm talking about 3.6... well, 3.6.6, because I'm not going to have figured it out by 3.6.5. |
| 01:36 | Ohhh. | |
| 01:36 | Now I understand your message. :) | |
| 01:37 | eythian | I'd need to come up with a method to do that, tracking multiple version streams is tricky. |
| 01:37 | (i.e. everyone's system would want them to just upgrade to the latest version) | |
| 01:38 | one way that might work is a pocket called "oldstable" that tracks the oldest still current version, so only switches to 3.8 when 3.6 is EOL... | |
| 01:38 | jcamins_away | Yeah, that's what I'd like. |
| 01:38 | And if someone wanted to switch to 3.8, they could change their sources to stable. | |
| 01:39 | eythian | yeah |
| 01:39 | jcamins_away | eythian++ |
| 01:39 | eythian | I might have a go setting that up at the hackfest or something. |
| 01:39 | jcamins_away | Woohoo! |
| 01:41 | I guess perhaps as a stopgap I should make unofficial packages available at debian.cpbibliography.com or something like that. | |
| 01:42 | eythian | yeah, though I've been using the current method for a while and no one seems to have noticed/minded :) |
| 01:43 | jcamins_away | eythian: true, a lot of us roll our own. |
| 01:43 | eythian | But, it's a good idea to have it available, so I'll definitely try to set it up. |
| 01:44 | jcamins_away | Thanks. |
| 01:45 | * jcamins_away | toddles off to get some sleep. |
| 01:45 | eythian | later |
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| 02:31 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #15 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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| 02:47 | rangi | hi BobB |
| 02:48 | BobB | hi rangi |
| 03:24 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.8.x build #15: SUCCESS in 53 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.8.x/15/ |
| 03:24 | m.de.rooy: Bug 7368 typo: MARC -> Card | |
| 03:24 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7368 trivial, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Stable , General staff client typo omnibus |
| 03:24 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #16 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 04:16 | Project Koha_3.8.x build #16: SUCCESS in 52 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.8.x/16/ | |
| 04:16 | * kyle: Bug 8084: Follow fix for 7641 - Suspend Until not set on by suspend button. | |
| 04:16 | * kyle: Bug 7722 - Insidious problem with searching | |
| 04:16 | * robin: Bug 8001: [SIGNED-OFF] improve styling potential of the tag list | |
| 04:16 | * stephane.delaune: Bug 8041: lost items are no longer available in search | |
| 04:16 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8084 normal, P2, ---, koha.sekjal, Pushed to Stable , Suspend Until not set on by suspend button |
| 04:16 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7722 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Stable , Insidious problem with searching | |
| 04:16 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8001 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, Pushed to Stable , Add some styling to the tags to allow them to be distinctive | |
| 04:16 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8041 minor, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Stable , in admin search, items can be lost and for loan | |
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| 04:46 | cait | hi #koha |
| 05:01 | Oak joined #koha | |
| 05:01 | Oak | kia ora #koha |
| 05:02 | hello cait :) | |
| 05:06 | cait | hi Oak :) |
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| 05:48 | druthb | o/ |
| 05:48 | kia ora, #koha! | |
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| 06:04 | vikas | hi !! |
| 06:05 | Oak | hi vikas |
| 06:05 | vikas | how r u oak ! |
| 06:05 | Oak | good. how are you? |
| 06:06 | vikas | fine !! |
| 06:06 | Oak | okay !! |
| 06:06 | :) | |
| 06:07 | how is weather in Pune? | |
| 06:07 | vikas | very hot !! |
| 06:07 | I just installed Koha in my college !! | |
| 06:07 | Oak | hmm |
| 06:07 | cool. | |
| 06:08 | vikas | But i have some issues Like how to setup mail server !! |
| 06:09 | Oak | did you use Debian packages? |
| 06:09 | vikas | yes !! |
| 06:10 | Oak | and did that: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]koha-email-enable |
| 06:16 | laurence joined #koha | |
| 06:17 | vikas | Right now we are new on koha !! whether some one is there in pune or mumbai for Koha Training !! |
| 06:25 | alex_a joined #koha | |
| 06:26 | alex_a | bonjour |
| 06:33 | vikas | ?? |
| 06:35 | cait | supportß |
| 06:35 | support? | |
| 06:35 | wahanui | support is probably found at http://koha-community.org/support/ |
| 06:35 | cait | vikas: you can check if there is a company or support provider near you |
| 06:35 | vikas: or you can send a mail to the list, the irc chat is not so good for such questions | |
| 06:36 | bonjour alex_a :) | |
| 06:36 | alex_a: only about 3 weeks now! | |
| 06:38 | @later tell slef wrote you a mail and did some drafts - we have a holiday here tomorrow, so send me information and I will finish the work :) | |
| 06:38 | huginn | cait: The operation succeeded. |
| 06:48 | cait | bbl |
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| 06:58 | reiveune | bonjour |
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| 07:00 | julian_m | hello |
| 07:02 | Oak | Bonjour alex_a, reiveune, julian_m |
| 07:02 | julian_m | Hi Oak :) |
| 07:02 | Oak | :) |
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| 07:04 | francharb | good morning |
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| 07:20 | kf | hi #koh |
| 07:20 | a | |
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| 07:21 | samuel | hi everybody :-) |
| 07:22 | kf | hi samuel |
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| 08:24 | rangi | evening |
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| 10:28 | druthb | o/ |
| 10:29 | * druthb | is at the American University in Madaba, testing an RFID gadget. Koha's SIP is working very nicely. |
| 10:29 | druthb | (like there was any doubt!) |
| 10:30 | jcamins_away | Cool! |
| 10:30 | druthb | The RFID gadget... is less than 100% successful. |
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| 11:12 | * kf | waves |
| 11:12 | kf | @wunder Konstanz |
| 11:12 | huginn | kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 6.6°C (1:09 PM CEST on May 16, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Rising). |
| 11:27 | jcamins_away | paul_p: good afternoon. |
| 11:27 | paul_p | good morning jcamins_away |
| 11:28 | kf | hi paul_p |
| 11:28 | jcamins_away | Were you able to push to contrib/global? |
| 11:30 | paul_p | jcamins_away haven't tested again since last time. I can try now... |
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| 11:32 | kf | paul_p: I am really keen on seeing dom indexing go in, but we miss a signoff for a unimarc follow up - is there a chance someone at biblibre could take a look? |
| 11:32 | the bug is 7818 | |
| 11:33 | bug 7818 | |
| 11:33 | wahanui | i think bug 7818 is waiting for my QA. Should be pretty painless, as it works a charm. |
| 11:33 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7818 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Signed Off , support DOM mode for Zebra indexing of bibliographic records |
| 11:33 | jcamins_away | paul_p: yes please! |
| 11:33 | kf | but there is also bug 7421 |
| 11:33 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7421 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, frederic, Needs Signoff , UNIMARC authorities DOM indexing mode |
| 11:33 | paul_p | it's on my list... as many many things ... but will try to work on it ASAP |
| 11:33 | kf | both together would enable full dom indexing support |
| 11:33 | for UNIMARC and MARC21 | |
| 11:34 | I think this would be really neat and give us time to develop some other new nice things based on it for 3.10 | |
| 11:34 | jcamins_away | paul_p: incidentally, you might like bug 8092. |
| 11:34 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8092 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Koha should use CHI caching framework |
| 11:34 | jcamins_away | It doesn't require your attention at all, I just thought you might want to look at the commit message. :) |
| 11:35 | kf | jcamins_away: don't distracthim! :) |
| 11:36 | jcamins_away | kf: sorry! |
| 11:36 | paul_p: but don't read the commit message until you've had a chance to upload the UNIMARC dataset. ;) | |
| 11:38 | Apparently it is now morning. Myshkin is demanding breakfast. | |
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| 12:15 | mtj | jcamins: i like your CHI patch :) |
| 12:16 | jcamins | mtj: I'm pretty proud of it. |
| 12:16 | mtj | ....CHI looks to be the DB-type module for all things caching? |
| 12:17 | oops, DBI not DB :) | |
| 12:17 | jcamins | Yeah. |
| 12:17 | It replaces Cache::Cache. | |
| 12:18 | Ideally we will use it for *all* caches eventually, even variable caches. | |
| 12:18 | mtj | CHI has a nice useful benchmark.script too - i like that |
| 12:19 | jcamins | And cache statistics. |
| 12:19 | And the ability to set up a mirror cache. | |
| 12:19 | And L1 caches. | |
| 12:19 | mtj | nice, you see a bigger picture than me :) |
| 12:19 | paul_p | jcamins patch with sandbox (including unimarc database) being pushed... |
| 12:19 | jcamins | Woohoo! |
| 12:20 | paul_p++ | |
| 12:20 | paul_p | done |
| 12:20 | mtj | oh stop, your'e just teasing me now :;P |
| 12:20 | paul_p | jcamins = http://git.koha-community.org/[…]bal.git;a=summary |
| 12:20 | mtj | hiya paul |
| 12:20 | jcamins | Yay! |
| 12:23 | paul_p: UNIMARC data = sandbox2? | |
| 12:24 | paul_p | jcamins the large one ;-) |
| 12:24 | (yes, sandbox2.sql.gz) | |
| 12:24 | oleonard | Hi everyone |
| 12:24 | paul_p | hi oleonard |
| 12:24 | jcamins | Thanks. |
| 12:25 | oleonard | paul_p: I notice sanop.css in the OPAC hasn't been touched in years. Do you know if it can be removed? |
| 12:25 | paul_p | oleonard it can be removed |
| 12:26 | oleonard | Thanks |
| 12:26 | paul_p | (the blue.css in staff interface can also be removed I think) |
| 12:26 | oleonard the blue.css in staff interface can also be removed I think | |
| 12:27 | * oleonard | is preparing a patch to remove obsolete image files, many of which were only called by sanop.css |
| 12:36 | kf | oleonard++ paul_p++ jcamins++ rain-- |
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| 13:30 | oleonard | Bug 8108 |
| 13:30 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8108 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Remove unused images from the OPAC |
| 13:30 | oleonard | 66 obsolete images removed! |
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| 13:57 | druthb | hi, #koha. |
| 13:57 | libsysguy | o/ druthb |
| 13:58 | * druthb | just got back from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/[…]versity_of_Madaba |
| 13:58 | * libsysguy | is working like druthb today and hacking away at some horribly formatted data |
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| 14:05 | fabio_t | Hi everybody! |
| 14:09 | datadoctor | g'day! |
| 14:10 | libsysguy: May your data unravel and deduplicate! | |
| 14:10 | libsysguy | datadoctor: my your tables be normalized |
| 14:10 | datadoctor | :) |
| 14:11 | libsysguy | may thee never forget to compute thy canonical cover |
| 14:13 | datadoctor | Are we talking cardinal or ordinal canonicals? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O[…]llapsing_function |
| 14:13 | ;) | |
| 14:14 | libsysguy | touche` datadoctor |
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| 14:21 | oleonard | We really ought to fix the shelf browser in the OPAC. |
| 14:22 | jcamins | oleonard: what's wrong with it now? |
| 14:23 | oleonard | It browses back and forward by strange increments |
| 14:23 | jcamins | oleonard: has it always done that? |
| 14:23 | oleonard | And I thought it wasn't intended to change the title you were currently viewing |
| 14:24 | As far as I know it's been doing these things for ages, but worked better at one time. | |
| 14:24 | jcamins | Yeah, it's always done the latter, and it's always annoyed me. |
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| 14:26 | jcamins | What school system does schuster work for? |
| 14:26 | fabio_t | I've edited record.abs, ccl.properties and bib1.att, and restarted my zebra instance after that |
| 14:27 | jcamins | fabio_t: what are you doing? |
| 14:27 | fabio_t | am I missing something related to authorities configuration? |
| 14:27 | jcamins | the first question? |
| 14:27 | wahanui | "What are you trying to do?" "What is the goal?" or "What problem are you experiencing?" |
| 14:27 | libsysguy | heh good bot |
| 14:28 | * wizzyrea | trained him well |
| 14:28 | fabio_t | jcamins: sorry, I wasn't that clear |
| 14:28 | wizzyrea | jcamins - schuster works for plano ISD |
| 14:28 | oleonard | jcamins: schuster works for Plano-ISD |
| 14:28 | jinx | |
| 14:28 | fabio_t | I can't search authorities |
| 14:28 | wizzyrea | mmmpf! |
| 14:28 | jcamins | Thanks. |
| 14:28 | fabio_t | and auth_header is empty |
| 14:28 | jcamins | fabio_t: why are you editing record.abs, ccl.properties and bib1.att? |
| 14:28 | libsysguy | reindex with -a? |
| 14:29 | * oleonard | doesn't know the next step in the jinx procedure. |
| 14:29 | wizzyrea | hehe |
| 14:29 | fabio_t | even after the creation of some biblio records |
| 14:29 | libsysguy | oleonard there is some pinching and poking i believe |
| 14:29 | fabio_t | I did sudo koha-rebuild-zebra -f |
| 14:29 | oleonard | What is this the produce department? |
| 14:29 | jcamins | Speaking of produce, we joined a CSA this year! :D |
| 14:30 | * wizzyrea | considered doing that |
| 14:30 | fabio_t | there are no records in auth_header though |
| 14:30 | jcamins | fabio_t: that means you don't have any authority records. |
| 14:30 | wizzyrea | fabio_t: do you have "biblioaddsauthorities" on? |
| 14:30 | fabio_t | wizzyrea: yeah, it's on |
| 14:30 | jcamins | You should not be editing the Zebra configuration files by hand. |
| 14:30 | oleonard | jcamins: I hear you have to suffer through long stretches of greens and parsnips |
| 14:30 | jcamins | What version are you? |
| 14:30 | *running | |
| 14:30 | fabio_t | Koha 3.6 packages |
| 14:30 | wizzyrea | brb |
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| 14:31 | jcamins | Which version of Koha 3.6? |
| 14:31 | fabio_t | jcamins: I didn't know there was another way to edit Zebra configuration |
| 14:32 | Koha version is 3.06.04.000 | |
| 14:32 | jcamins | fabio_t: there isn't another way to edit the Zebra configuration. |
| 14:32 | libsysguy | ^^ sadly |
| 14:32 | jcamins | What I'm saying is Don't Edit The Zebra Configuration. |
| 14:33 | Nine times out of ten, it will end badly. | |
| 14:33 | oleonard: yeah, I will learn many interesting things to do with greens and parsnips. | |
| 14:34 | * oleonard | is happy to be able to buy lettuce year-round, thank you science. |
| 14:35 | fabio_t | huh. this is sad to learn... I was hoping to enable "search by fingerprint" |
| 14:35 | jcamins | fabio_t: search by fingerprint? |
| 14:35 | * wizzyrea | LOVES parsnips |
| 14:35 | * jcamins | too, actually. |
| 14:35 | fabio_t | * typographic mark |
| 14:36 | wizzyrea | roasted, mashed, steamed, yum. |
| 14:36 | fabio_t | I'm doing a project about Antiquarian books |
| 14:36 | jcamins | first question? |
| 14:36 | wahanui | "What are you trying to do?" "What is the goal?" or "What problem are you experiencing?" |
| 14:36 | wizzyrea | ^^ it helps us if you answer these |
| 14:36 | jcamins | I'm familiar with fingerprints, but they have nothing to do with authorities. |
| 14:36 | fabio_t | I know |
| 14:36 | wizzyrea | (as appropriate to your situation) |
| 14:37 | fabio_t | I was listing the things I've edited |
| 14:37 | and the search on typographs' brand works well too | |
| 14:38 | the authorities table in database doesn't get filled | |
| 14:38 | jcamins | fabio_t: so what is the problem? |
| 14:38 | fabio_t | I was wondering if I could have broken something by editing unimarc bibliographic framework and zebra configuration |
| 14:39 | my problem is I can't search authorities | |
| 14:39 | jcamins | Oh, quite possibly. |
| 14:39 | You don't have any authorities. | |
| 14:39 | fabio_t | if I create a bibliographic record |
| 14:39 | no authorities is added | |
| 14:39 | * authority | |
| 14:39 | jcamins | If there's nothing in auth_header, no amount of Zebra configuration is going to add an authority. |
| 14:40 | fabio_t | yep |
| 14:40 | jcamins | I don't know much about UNIMARC, and the authority linking support in 3.6.4 was quite poor, but are you sure that you are adding fields that are authority-controlled? |
| 14:40 | wizzyrea | ^^ this was going to be my question |
| 14:40 | fabio_t | my question is: "why auth_header isn't filled when I create a new bibliographic record?" |
| 14:41 | jcamins | Because auth_header has nothing to do with bibliographic records. |
| 14:41 | It is used for authority records. | |
| 14:42 | fabio_t | I have added some new fields in bibliographic frameworks, but I don't want them to be authority-indexed |
| 14:42 | jcamins | Don't worry. They won't be. |
| 14:42 | fabio_t | :) |
| 14:42 | jcamins | The authority indexing configuration only applies to authority records, and you are editing bibliographic records. |
| 14:43 | fabio_t | ok |
| 14:43 | wizzyrea | so, are you really saying that you can't search for the bib you just created? Are you typing in "search the catalog" or are you searching specifically in the authorities |
| 14:43 | mtj | jcamins: 'biblioaddsauthorities' syspref creates an authority record, when adding a bib record? |
| 14:44 | wizzyrea | it should, if you add it to an authority controlled field |
| 14:44 | jcamins | mtj: only if you add authority-controlled fields to the record, which fabio_t is not. |
| 14:44 | libsysguy: testing? | |
| 14:44 | wahanui | testing is fun! or easier when you have a test plan. Hint hint. |
| 14:44 | fabio_t | wizzyrea: if I create a new bib, no auth is going to be added |
| 14:44 | so auth_header is empty | |
| 14:44 | wizzyrea | if you're not adding any data to authority controlled fields, it wont |
| 14:45 | mtj | jcamins: gotcha :) |
| 14:45 | fabio_t | it seems biblioaddsauthorities is not working |
| 14:45 | sorry, you're right | |
| 14:45 | authority controlled fields are filled | |
| 14:45 | but new biblio doesn't add any authority in the database | |
| 14:46 | wizzyrea | I'm confused, I thought you said you didn't want the authorities added. |
| 14:46 | libsysguy | hey |
| 14:46 | sorry jcamins | |
| 14:46 | fabio_t | I apologize for my bad english... |
| 14:46 | jcamins | fabio_t: are you having functional problems? |
| 14:47 | fabio_t | everything seems to work fine |
| 14:47 | wizzyrea | fabio_t: don't worry about your english :) we'll figure it out. |
| 14:47 | jcamins | fabio_t: then don't worry about it. :) |
| 14:47 | wizzyrea | bottom line: don't worry, I guess ^.^ |
| 14:47 | fabio_t | thanks again then |
| 14:48 | I'm going to sum it up again if it helps | |
| 14:48 | in few steps | |
| 14:49 | let me know, because I'm not sure about being clear | |
| 14:49 | :) | |
| 14:53 | jcamins | fabio_t: one thing I should point out: if you are editing files, you might not want to use the packages. |
| 14:53 | fabio_t | If I manually add an authority record, the database got updated, I do a full reindex and I'm able to search it too |
| 14:54 | so I suppose something related to biblioaddsauthorities broke | |
| 14:54 | jcamins: thanks for the advice. | |
| 14:54 | jcamins | fabio_t: that could be. francharb would be the person to ask about that with UNIMARC. |
| 14:54 | I know it will work starting with 3.6.5. | |
| 14:55 | (because I rewrote it, and tested it) | |
| 14:59 | hdl | fabio_t: is it a brand new koha setup ? |
| 14:59 | jcamins | Oh, hdl is a good person to talk to, also. |
| 14:59 | Hi hdl! | |
| 15:00 | reiveune | bye |
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| 15:01 | hdl | fabio_t: do you have BiblioAddsAuthorities LinkerModule, LinkerOptions and CatalogModuleRelink set ? |
| 15:01 | jcamins | hdl: that's not in 3.6.4 yet. |
| 15:01 | fabio_t | hi hdl |
| 15:01 | hdl | hi jcamins. |
| 15:01 | jcamins | It'll be in 3.6.5, though. |
| 15:01 | hdl | I don't know which version fabio_t is on. |
| 15:01 | fabio_t | what do you mean by "is it a brand new koha setup ?" |
| 15:02 | jcamins | hdl: fabio_t said 3.6.4 earlier. :) |
| 15:02 | fabio_t | 3.06.04.000 |
| 15:02 | jcamins | You weren't here yet. |
| 15:03 | I don't know how BiblioAddsAuthorities worked for UNIMARC before my work on bug 7284. | |
| 15:03 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7284 major, P3, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Stable , Authority matching algorithm improvements |
| 15:04 | hdl | jcamins: it worked quite out of the box iirc. |
| 15:04 | fabio_t | I can confirm what hdl has said |
| 15:04 | hdl | But I have not been looking at that code for a long time. |
| 15:04 | jcamins | hdl: hm. That's how it was for MARC21, too. |
| 15:05 | hdl | And it changed quite a lot from what I can see in master. |
| 15:05 | jcamins | hdl: yeah, 7284 rewrote that so that it was consistent. |
| 15:05 | hdl | I am not really familiar with C4/Heading and UNIMARC. |
| 15:05 | fabio_t | never experienced problem with it with Koha 3.6 packages UNIMARC before :) |
| 15:05 | jcamins | That's all new. |
| 15:06 | I could troubleshoot that if it were a problem with that. | |
| 15:06 | fabio_t | I'm going to revert my Zebra edits and see if it works again |
| 15:07 | I have backed up the files | |
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| 15:13 | oleonard | In the command "git clone git://git.koha-community.org/koha.git kohaclone" where does the "koha.git" come from? Was that defined when the repo was initially set up? |
| 15:15 | jcamins | oleonard: yes. You get that information from whoever is hosting the git repo. |
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| 15:39 | libsysguy | is there a reason the special_holidays table stores the date across 3 columns instead of a date field? |
| 15:47 | jcamins | oleonard: I come to you with a question about the language chooser in the OPAC. |
| 15:47 | Why doesn't it stick to the bottom of the window like in the staff client? | |
| 15:48 | Is that intentional? | |
| 15:48 | oleonard | the original decision to make it that was based on the idea that the staff client is "application-like" and the OPAC is not |
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| 15:50 | jcamins | Ah. |
| 15:50 | * jcamins | may have to figure out how to change that with CSS and jQuery. |
| 15:50 | jcamins | I like the floating selector. |
| 15:51 | oleonard | then we can have a new preference, OPACStickyLanguageChooser |
| 15:51 | libsysguy | ok let me append something to my question about the calendar...would anyone be offended if it changed from dates per column to datetime |
| 15:52 | jcamins | oleonard: I don't feel that's necessary. I'm happy to have that local. |
| 15:52 | libsysguy | ^^ is probably a question for the devel list |
| 15:52 | oops | |
| 15:52 | jcamins | libsysguy: yes it is. |
| 15:52 | oleonard | libsysguy: The answer to the first half of your question may moot the second half |
| 15:53 | * oleonard | doesn't know |
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| 15:53 | libsysguy | geez talljoy |
| 15:53 | pick a name | |
| 15:53 | lol | |
| 15:53 | jcamins | oleonard: unless you think other people would want the sticky language chooser too. |
| 15:54 | oleonard | If you figure it out share the code and see what people say |
| 15:54 | jcamins | Actually, I think I'd like my OPAC footer text to be on the same line as the language chooser. That will definitely be local. |
| 15:54 | Of course. | |
| 15:54 | * jcamins | is a strong believer in sharing. |
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| 16:04 | fabio_t | solved with 3.8! thanks a lot people :) |
| 16:04 | I have to go | |
| 16:04 | jcamins++ | |
| 16:04 | wizzyrea++ | |
| 16:04 | hdl++ | |
| 16:04 | bye | |
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| 16:13 | kf1 | libsysguy: around? |
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| 16:59 | oleonard | http://catalog.bywatersolution[…]ages/filefind.png |
| 16:59 | ? | |
| 17:00 | kf1 | no idea .) |
| 17:00 | :) | |
| 17:00 | oleonard | My search says that is referenced by authorities\detail.tt but I've never seen it. Have you jcamins ? |
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| 17:00 | jcamins | filefind.png? |
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| 17:00 | jcamins | Lemme look. |
| 17:00 | kf1 | perhaps unimarc? |
| 17:00 | jcamins | No idea. |
| 17:00 | I kind of like it, though. | |
| 17:01 | oleonard | In the OPAC it seems to be only referenced by some possibly obsolete sample data sql for the ISBD preference |
| 17:01 | installer\data\mysql\ru-RU\mandatory\system_preferences_full_optimal_for_install_only.sql ? | |
| 17:02 | jcamins | That's not used anymore. |
| 17:02 | (the sql script) | |
| 17:03 | I have no idea what that section of authorities/detail.tt does. | |
| 17:03 | Oh, wait, yes I do. | |
| 17:03 | It's broken. | |
| 17:03 | * jcamins | actually just finished writing up a proposal to fix that. |
| 17:03 | jcamins | Heh. |
| 17:04 | Wait, no, just kidding. | |
| 17:04 | No idea. | |
| 17:04 | I'm pretty sure it's leftover from the authorities/detail.tt being copied from catalogue/detail.tt. | |
| 17:04 | Hey, when does authorities/detail.tt get called? | |
| 17:05 | Oh, it's the MARC view. | |
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| 17:28 | * jcamins | waves to sekjal, juan_sieira, and another talljoy. |
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| 17:40 | jcamins | gmcharlt: around? |
| 17:40 | gmcharlt | jcamins: no, I'm a square |
| 17:40 | what can I do for you? | |
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| 17:51 | kyleh | I could use some feedback on bug 7817 if anyone is interested. |
| 17:51 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7817 critical, P1 - high, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Items Permanent location (shelving location) is set to NULL when item is edited |
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| 17:58 | jcamins | OpenSRF is really cool! |
| 17:58 | * jcamins | unsidetracks himself. |
| 18:00 | cait | jcamins: looking at evergreen? |
| 18:00 | and hi again all :) | |
| 18:00 | jcamins | cait: yeah. |
| 18:00 | cait: Koha could benefit a lot from that sort of loosely-coupled architecture. | |
| 18:00 | At least, I could benefit a lot from Koha having that sort of loosely-coupled architecture. | |
| 18:02 | cait | one thing after the other ok? |
| 18:02 | :) | |
| 18:02 | thd | loose-coupling++ |
| 18:02 | cait | slef: around? |
| 18:02 | jcamins | cait: yes, first I'll get distracted, then I'll get reeeeeeeeeeaallllyyyyyyy distracted. |
| 18:03 | Oh, we're having a meeting now. | |
| 18:03 | cait | I thought so |
| 18:03 | and I have schedule questions :) | |
| 18:03 | slef ping | |
| 18:03 | thd | mle_ ping |
| 18:05 | cait | hmm |
| 18:05 | thd | There was comment last week about the meeting this week being difficult for the schedule of slef and mle, if I remember correctly. |
| 18:05 | cait | perhaps they will turn up a bit late |
| 18:05 | ah, I missed last week | |
| 18:05 | thd | We cannot have a meeting without both of them. |
| 18:05 | cait | I wrote him an email with questions about the schedule this morning |
| 18:05 | no response so far | |
| 18:05 | perhaps later tonight | |
| 18:06 | * thd | may have to leave in about twenty minutes. |
| 18:07 | cait | we could reschedule perhaps? |
| 18:07 | and mail the list if we do | |
| 18:08 | thd | nengard had rightly identified that having her introductory presentation on the last day was probably not the best and we swapped some scheduling. |
| 18:08 | cait | thd: I worked with what I knew about |
| 18:08 | on the wiki is the current version | |
| 18:08 | her talk is a bit long and we have lot of introductory things on monday | |
| 18:09 | some of them cover open source in parts too I think | |
| 18:09 | not sure | |
| 18:09 | thd | The biggest constraint on scheduling seemed to be the constraint of how long or short people expected their presentations to run. |
| 18:09 | cait | I am not opposed to rescheduling but we should do it very very soon |
| 18:09 | thd | The wiki is current to my knowledge but my knowledge is confined to the meetings. |
| 18:11 | I was expecting to have jury duty today again but that is over with a settled case which never actually needed a jury. | |
| 18:11 | cait | I think I remember slef talked to nicole about that |
| 18:11 | I will try to ask him later | |
| 18:14 | thd | I suppose that you jcamins could have a meeting about scheduling issues and whatever else, and that would be useful input to whatever information slef and wle may have. |
| 18:16 | cait | hm I don't want to change to much on the program now without very good reason |
| 18:16 | thd | There were some empty spots on the schedule last week but they were not identified. Perhaps calculation of expected times would have been required to understand how various presentations fit. |
| 18:16 | cait | I think we need to put it on the website as soon as possible |
| 18:17 | the slots are all filled now | |
| 18:17 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ohaCon12_Schedule | |
| 18:18 | thd | The slots all seemed to be filled last week except that some were filled by short presentations. Knowing which was which was the trick. |
| 18:18 | cait | we had some open spots, but slef sent me the geo sci talks and I put them in this morning |
| 18:18 | thd | Well that is great now that everything has a place. |
| 18:19 | cait | we have a little time here and there 5-10 minutes |
| 18:19 | but I think it will work out, because of questions and people talking longer | |
| 18:19 | thd | Exactly. |
| 18:19 | cait | slef had put some question and answers panels on the ends of first and second day |
| 18:19 | I think it's a great idea | |
| 18:19 | thd | It never hurts to have more time for questions. |
| 18:19 | cait | I didn't have the full names for the geo sci presenters |
| 18:20 | * wizzyrea | loves git aliases |
| 18:20 | cait | so that is missing right now and we haven't checked with presenters, but I hope all are available at all days |
| 18:20 | wizzyrea | oh sorry meeting. |
| 18:20 | cait | hi liz :) |
| 18:20 | not a real meeting, we are missing slef and mle :) | |
| 18:20 | wizzyrea | hi :) |
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| 18:20 | cait | thd: I really want to push the program out - because it's only 3 weeks now! |
| 18:21 | thd | The other issue which was raised last week was a shortfall of funding relative to expected expenses. |
| 18:21 | cait | slef has updated the website with some new sponsors since then |
| 18:21 | I am not sure how close or far we are from the amount we needed to raise right now | |
| 18:21 | jcamins | I don't believe there have been any major sponsors added since last week. |
| 18:22 | I believe he announced three sponsors on the lower tier, which would put the conference ~150GBP closer. | |
| 18:22 | thd | cait: I think that you should have a meeting now and then when slef resurfaces everything can be taken into consideration for finalising on the website. |
| 18:23 | I may have to leave at any minute but someone should decide to chair the meeting and start. | |
| 18:23 | cait | I am not sure about having a meeting with slf |
| 18:23 | and there is not really more as is in the chat logs now | |
| 18:23 | jcamins | Actually, I stand corrected. Several of the Full Monty sponsors are new since last week. I thought they'd already been announced. |
| 18:23 | cait | i have told you all I know :) |
| 18:23 | jcamins | Yeah, I think the meeting is over. |
| 18:24 | :) | |
| 18:24 | * oleonard | thinks meetings without all the important players are a waste of time |
| 18:24 | cait | and make wth slf without slef... |
| 18:24 | I can't type | |
| 18:25 | thd | The only issue which I was attempting to raise is as full an airing of whatever as possible so that the principle parties can finalise what they need to with some input for whatever little time is left in advance. |
| 18:25 | * jcamins | proposes ending the meeting. |
| 18:25 | jcamins | All possible discussion having been completed. |
| 18:26 | wizzyrea | seconded, i want to get back to like, fixing stuff ^.^ |
| 18:26 | thd | cait has not told everyone his ideas about scheduling. |
| 18:26 | wizzyrea | hm that came off overly harsh. |
| 18:26 | * wizzyrea | didn't mean it that way |
| 18:26 | jcamins | slef already updated the wiki. |
| 18:27 | Then cait finished updating the wiki. | |
| 18:27 | thd | wizzyrea: I always try to break stuff very well before fixing it. |
| 18:27 | wizzyrea | the++ |
| 18:27 | thd++ even | |
| 18:28 | cait | ... and she is waiting for slef now :) |
| 18:30 | thd | I am expecting someone who does not understand why free software does not simply work always on new hardware. |
| 18:38 | jcamins: Which sponsors list do you see with significant new members? | |
| 18:38 | jcamins | thd: http://koha-community.org/kohacon12/sponsors/ |
| 18:38 | wahanui | http://koha-community.org/kohacon12/sponsors/ is the website presentation |
| 18:38 | jcamins | Hrm. |
| 18:38 | I think that's missing two Kind Hearts sponsors and one Fully Monty sponsor. | |
| 18:39 | thd | jcamins: Who is missing? |
| 18:39 | wahanui | missing is usualy library only, an item that's not out |
| 18:39 | jcamins | thd: I do not recall. |
| 18:40 | * thd | had wondered if there was another less official but more dynamically updated published list. |
| 18:40 | jcamins | Nope. |
| 18:41 | I think there was an e-mail about it, but I don't recall when. | |
| 18:42 | (Mondayish, maybe over the weekend, not sure) | |
| 18:43 | * thd | time has been terminated. |
| 18:45 | thd | Recalcitrant hardware which refuses free software beckons. |
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| 19:00 | mle_ | ¬¬ |
| 19:00 | * mle_ | read logs |
| 19:03 | cait | hi mle_ :) |
| 19:03 | mle_ | hey |
| 19:18 | pastebot | "oleonard" at 66.213.78.34 pasted "Anatomy of a Google+ share button" (17 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/399 |
| 19:18 | oleonard | Google loves designing with tables. |
| 19:19 | wizzyrea | good gracious |
| 19:20 | jcamins | Wow. |
| 19:26 | pastebot | "oleonard" at 66.213.78.34 pasted "Anatomy of GMail's "Inbox" label" (29 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/400 |
| 19:26 | oleonard | Another great example of fun with tables |
| 19:34 | wizzyrea | lol wow. |
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| 20:07 | jcamins | Good morning, New Zealand! |
| 20:07 | * cait | waves |
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| 20:10 | kathryn | good morning other hemispheres! |
| 20:10 | well probably just the one | |
| 20:11 | cait | :) |
| 20:11 | jcamins | kathryn: well, I suppose technically there are an infinite number of hemispheres you're not in. |
| 20:11 | There's the one that starts one degree north of you, the one that starts one degree south of you, one degree east, etc., etc. | |
| 20:12 | :) | |
| 20:15 | oleonard | If NZ is awake, it must be quitting time for me |
| 20:15 | Bye #koha | |
| 20:15 | kathryn | bye |
| 20:15 | wizzyrea | oleonard - how difficult would it be to add a "edit item" link to the holdings table on the item detail |
| 20:15 | doh | |
| 20:15 | answer that tomorrow | |
| 20:15 | bye | |
| 20:16 | jcamins | wizzyrea: didn't we already do that? |
| 20:16 | kathryn | jcamins, in that case I revert to first greeting! |
| 20:16 | wizzyrea | not on the item detail |
| 20:16 | you can click the barcode and see the item detail | |
| 20:16 | wait | |
| 20:16 | wrong word. Let me try again | |
| 20:17 | hdwib to add an "edit item" link to the holdings table on the BIB detail | |
| 20:17 | jcamins | Oh. |
| 20:17 | Got it. | |
| 20:17 | Easy peasy. | |
| 20:17 | wizzyrea | does this seem useful to anyone but me? |
| 20:17 | jcamins | Hm. |
| 20:17 | It seems vaguely useful. | |
| 20:17 | Useful enough that I think it's worth doing. | |
| 20:18 | You could add a jQuery if you wanted it nownownow. | |
| 20:18 | wizzyrea | I was thinking like the "click in the box show the edit link" thing he did on the add item pag |
| 20:18 | page* | |
| 20:18 | cait | nice |
| 20:18 | jcamins | wizzyrea: yeah, that'd be easy. |
| 20:19 | wizzyrea | new, I was just piddling around in there and was like, but I want to jump to edit this NOW and it's like 3 clicks away |
| 20:19 | this seems silly. | |
| 20:19 | stu pid auto correct | |
| 20:19 | jcamins | It does. |
| 20:19 | Your computer has autocorrect? | |
| 20:19 | wizzyrea | yes! |
| 20:19 | lion does and it is ANNOYING. | |
| 20:20 | jcamins | Disable it? |
| 20:20 | * wizzyrea | goes to figure out how to turn that nonsense OFF. |
| 20:20 | wizzyrea | phew. There, think I took care of that. |
| 20:21 | it still highlights when I type something wrong (like "naw") but at least it doesn't autocorrect me | |
| 20:22 | jcamins | Yay! |
| 20:23 | wizzyrea | you would have to have edit catalogue permissions to do that, of course. |
| 20:23 | to see the edit links | |
| 20:23 | jcamins | Right. |
| 20:23 | Still easy to do with jQuery. | |
| 20:23 | :) | |
| 20:24 | If "Edit items" is available, you have edit_catalogue. | |
| 20:24 | * jcamins | leaves the implementation as an exercise for the reader. ;) |
| 20:26 | wizzyrea | keke |
| 20:26 | well I want it to actually do the thing where it picks the right item and it's ready to go when you get there | |
| 20:27 | * wizzyrea | will think on it, and ask owen |
| 20:27 | wizzyrea | he may have an objection |
| 20:28 | cait | i like the idea :) |
| 20:28 | jcamins | wizzyrea: no, I mean with jQuery you can easily check if the user has edit_catalogue privileges, and then use that information to decide whether or not you want to have the edit item button. |
| 20:28 | wizzyrea | technically it's 2 clicks (and sometimes 3) no matter which way you go at it. |
| 20:29 | jcamins | wizzyrea: right. I am sold on your idea. |
| 20:29 | wizzyrea | edit -> edit items -> click edit on the item |
| 20:29 | click barcode -> edit item | |
| 20:29 | or click table -> edit | |
| 20:29 | * jcamins | is just giving you hints on how to do it in nexpress right now, with only jQuery. |
| 20:29 | wizzyrea | right right |
| 20:29 | well actually, it's nothing that dire | |
| 20:29 | ^.^ | |
| 20:29 | but I think people would like it? | |
| 20:30 | jcamins | I think so. :) |
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| 21:00 | jcamins | Anyone have any thoughts on minimum system requirements for Koha? |
| 21:00 | Let me clarify that. | |
| 21:00 | Minimum system requirements for having a pleasant experience running Koha. | |
| 21:00 | The server. | |
| 21:00 | wahanui | rumour has it the server is installed |
| 21:00 | wizzyrea | how big of a collection? |
| 21:01 | jcamins | wizzyrea: say, 50k records, several hundred circs/day. |
| 21:02 | I'm particularly perplexed about the CPU. | |
| 21:05 | I know how to scale RAM and disk space, but I'm thinking maybe saying that a 1.4Ghz+ x86-64 CPU would be safest. | |
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| 21:25 | wizzyrea | I think that would be adequate |
| 21:25 | really disk I/O + adequate ram is what really matters. | |
| 21:25 | and not even disk if you've got enough RAM | |
| 21:26 | maybe I'm not thinking correctly. | |
| 21:26 | jcamins | That was my thought, too. |
| 21:28 | I decided to up the requirement to 1.6Ghz, because that's still absurdly cheap. | |
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