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| 01:27 | Judit | hi |
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| 04:30 | druthb | o/ |
| 04:30 | bag | heya druthb |
| 04:30 | good morning too you | |
| 04:31 | * druthb | does some math in her head. |
| 04:31 | druthb | good evening, bag. :) |
| 04:31 | bag | yup 9:30pm here |
| 04:31 | druthb | BEST BOSS EVAR |
| 04:31 | bag | heh thanks druthb you are sweet |
| 04:32 | petra yet? and oh yeah Sonja says hi Ruth | |
| 04:33 | * druthb | squeals and waves at Sonja. |
| 04:33 | * mtj | waves to druthb and bag |
| 04:33 | bag | yo mtj |
| 04:33 | druthb | Nope, haven't been to Petra (or anything) yet... I hope to do some touristing this weekend. |
| 04:33 | howdy, mtj. | |
| 04:33 | mtj | hows it all going over there druthb ? |
| 04:33 | yo bagz | |
| 04:34 | druthb | going well. I got the first patch of this trip in yesterday, and jcamins did a lovely job testing it--found a few minor tweaks to make, which doesn't surprise me. Going to do some system admin training this morning, and more CSS and coding over the weekend. |
| 04:34 | mtj | druthb: what's the weirdest thing you've eaten so-far? |
| 04:35 | bag | good question |
| 04:35 | druthb | hm. |
| 04:35 | mtj | ps: the RTL stuff sounds very useful to Koha |
| 04:36 | druthb | Fresh green olives--for breakfast, every day. That's pretty novel. Oh, and they don't just use hot dogs for putting on a long bun like we do in the states...for breakfast this morning, they had a dish where they'd cut up franks, plus onion and green pepper, and pan-fried the lot, with spices. |
| 04:39 | They are very fond of sandwiches here...they take a long roll similar to a french roll, and fill it full of tasty stuff, and then grill it to heat everything up. I went to a restaurant last night where they spoke no English--but they had pictures up. | |
| 04:39 | Judit | where are you? |
| 04:39 | druthb | One of the sandwiches looked tasty--a fried patty of some meat, with olives and lettuce and tomato. So some pointing and waving, and looking at the register, and I had ordered a fish sandwich. :) |
| 04:39 | Judit: Amman, Jordan. | |
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| 04:41 | druthb | Outside the hotel, food is *cheap*. a can of cola costs about US 50 cents (JD 0.350), and my sandwich last night was JD 2.000, about US 2.60. |
| 04:43 | they have an interesting tradition here in the offices... the "office boy." in our case, an Egyptian man about 20, maybe 25 years old. His name is Mohammed...the staff here just bellow his last name when they want him to fetch tea or coffee, or run some errand. They're amused that I don't do that. | |
| 04:45 | (I go find him, and I speak to him very politely. Our conversations are limited, but I do know how to ask for more tea. | |
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| 04:48 | * druthb | squees and waves at cait |
| 04:57 | packs up to head to the office. | |
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| 06:25 | marcelr | hello koha |
| 06:30 | alex_a | hello |
| 06:30 | cait | hi marcelr and alex_a :) |
| 06:31 | marcelr | hi cait, alex_a |
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| 06:40 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 06:40 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 12.7°C (8:39 AM CEST on May 10, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady). |
| 06:43 | alex_a | cait, marcelr o/ |
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| 06:44 | reiveune | hello |
| 06:44 | druthb | @wunder Amman |
| 06:44 | huginn | druthb: The current temperature in Amman Airport, Jordan is 21.0°C (9:00 AM EEST on May 10, 2012). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.78 in 1008 hPa (Rising). |
| 06:45 | druthb | Heading for a high of 35 today...gonna be another scorcher. 39 on Saturday. (!) |
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| 06:51 | cait | supposed to be around 25 today |
| 06:51 | warm enough for me! | |
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| 06:54 | paul_p | good morning #koha |
| 06:55 | marcelr | hi paul_p |
| 06:55 | mtj | hi #koha |
| 06:55 | marcelr | hi mtj |
| 06:55 | cait | brb |
| 06:56 | mtj | paul_p: do you have a wiki-page with your Koha benchmarking stuff? |
| 06:56 | ... or a personal git repo, or something? | |
| 06:57 | dgl-library | @marc 300 |
| 06:57 | huginn | dgl-library: A physical description of the described item, including its extent, dimensions, and such other physical details as a description of any accompanying materials and unit type and size. (Repeatable) [a,b,c,e,f,g,3,6,8] |
| 06:58 | mtj | paul_p: i see this page -> http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Benchmark_for_3.8 |
| 06:59 | paul_p | mtj yes, search benchmark[ing] |
| 06:59 | mtj that's it ;-) | |
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| 06:59 | mtj | do you have a koha-benchmarking git repo, to share - or scripts? |
| 07:00 | julian_m | hello |
| 07:00 | mtj | aah i see : ) 'made with an updated version (dec, 2nd) of the script in misc/load_testing.' |
| 07:00 | paul_p: ok, i got it now :) | |
| 07:01 | paul_p | mtj please don't add a line to this page, because, as you don't have the same computer, your results will differ |
| 07:03 | mtj | yes, understood! |
| 07:05 | paul_p: i have been planning a script to automate your load/* tests - for every Koha release since 3.0.0, etc... | |
| 07:06 | .. it could be interesting to track/graph the performance stats of Koha, from the 3.0.0. release | |
| 07:07 | bag | yeah that would be pretty cool |
| 07:07 | mtj | .. to see what release made Koha faster or slower than the previous release |
| 07:08 | bag | hopefully each is faster then the previous |
| 07:08 | mtj | yeah, i reckon - and not sooo tricky to do - either :) |
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| 07:09 | druthb | julian_m: ping? |
| 07:09 | mtj | bag: well, the results might show otherwise :p |
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| 07:09 | bag | :P |
| 07:09 | julian_m | hi druthb |
| 07:10 | mtj | ok, gotta scoot - ciao all... |
| 07:10 | druthb | hi! :) your translation script for bug 8044 works a treat; I gave it signoff, but fredericd raises some good points. Would it offend you for me to revise the patch to at least address some of those? |
| 07:10 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8044 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Signed Off , Localization for Perl scripts and modules |
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| 07:12 | vkm | where is stop words to add in 3.6.4 |
| 07:12 | druthb | vkm: Stopwords only exist if you're using NoZebra. If you're using NoZebra, don't. |
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| 07:13 | julian_m | druthb, in fact, the patch was not intended to be pushed to master 'as is' but to start a discussion about localization in koha. I will answer to frederic but i'm afraid I have no time for revising the patch this week |
| 07:14 | druthb | That's okay. I can do some of the revision--in particular, getting it into the existing framework. I also have an idea for a little tool that would help us modify the many, many files that will need to be touched for the final version of this, to create the .po. |
| 07:15 | vkm | should we use zebra |
| 07:15 | druthb | I don't have any particular opinion on which library to use, julian_m. Either works, as far as I am concerned. |
| 07:15 | vkm: Absolutely you should. NoZebra is deprecated, and will probably eventually disappear. | |
| 07:16 | vkm | zebra uses stop words? |
| 07:18 | druthb | Zebra does *not* use stopwords; that's what I said earlier. |
| 07:20 | julian_m: I have a little bit of time this weekend that I could get that patch revised to get it into the existing spaces, and write the tool to edit all the .pl scripts, maybe. Would you like me to do that? The project I'm on here in Amman has a strong need for this problem to be solved. | |
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| 07:22 | julian_m | druthb, I think we should first agree with the perl module to use before writing more code. Is fredericd there? |
| 07:22 | kf | back |
| 07:22 | druthb | guten morgen, kf. |
| 07:24 | kf | salaam druthb |
| 07:24 | hi julian_m :) | |
| 07:25 | julian_m | hello kf :) |
| 07:27 | druthb | julian_m: I'm looking at the docs on Locale::TextDomain, and it's pretty nifty, but it'd require a bit more work to tweak the perl scripts than with maketext. Most of the really cool things that locale::textdomain does are not done in perl with Koha anyway, but are in the .TT, so are not the subject of this bug. |
| 07:28 | magnuse | kia ora #koha! |
| 07:28 | kf | marcelr++ :) |
| 07:28 | marcelr | hi magnuse |
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| 07:29 | samuel | hello everybody :-) |
| 07:29 | kf | bonjour samuel |
| 07:30 | druthb | god dag, magnuse. :) |
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| 07:39 | magnuse | salaam druthb marcelr Amit_Gupta kf samuel |
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| 07:51 | magnuse | kia ora connor_l_dewar |
| 07:52 | connor_l_dewar | hi magnuse mummy asks hows your wife? hope shes doing well! |
| 07:52 | magnuse | connor_l_dewar: starting to get a little uncomfortable, but all is well with the baby :-) |
| 07:53 | connor_l_dewar: and say hi to your mummy! | |
| 07:53 | kf | :) |
| 07:53 | yeah, from me to :) | |
| 07:53 | bag | :) |
| 07:53 | connor_l_dewar | will do |
| 07:54 | magnuse | connor_l_dewar: ready to do some more koha hacking? |
| 07:54 | connor_l_dewar | haha im learning python at the moment hoping i could talk to someone about how i go about contributing with it |
| 07:55 | magnuse | hm, perl would be a better choice if you want to contribute to koha, i think... |
| 07:56 | connor_l_dewar | yeah i got told that too but python is the future! |
| 07:56 | and its a lot easier | |
| 07:56 | magnuse | pft ;-) |
| 07:57 | connor_l_dewar | im so proud, i got code into koha before mum |
| 07:57 | :D | |
| 07:57 | magnuse | yeah connor_l_dewar++ |
| 07:57 | did jo say something about learning to code? | |
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| 07:59 | connor_l_dewar | yeah she said shes really really busy at the ,moment but as soon as she has time shes going to start |
| 07:59 | :) | |
| 07:59 | magnuse | yeah, right ;-) |
| 08:00 | kf | heh |
| 08:00 | sounds familiar | |
| 08:00 | connor_l_dewar | im sure get round to it one day ;) |
| 08:00 | kf | connor_l_dewar: there is no python in Koha right now - so not sure how it could work |
| 08:01 | connor_l_dewar: git bz is python - perhaps you could try and contribute to that? we use it heavily and it woudl be nice if it woudl allow to do some more things | |
| 08:02 | connor_l_dewar | awesome will look into it , perl should probably be on my todo list |
| 08:05 | druthb | connor_l_dewar: perl should *definitely* be on your todo list; and do please tell your mother hello from me. |
| 08:06 | magnuse | @later tell jcamins having 7537 in 3.6.x is a good thing, I think |
| 08:06 | huginn | magnuse: The operation succeeded. |
| 08:07 | connor_l_dewar | mum says hello back |
| 08:22 | druthb | :D |
| 08:23 | samuel | question, i'm trying to convert data in marc format ( a big challenge because our older ils doesn't respect unimarc): in marc edit, when i have this error "undefined error reported, error number -99" what does it means ? |
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| 08:25 | kf | samuel: no idea sorry |
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| 08:33 | kf | meeting |
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| 08:36 | Brooke | kia ora |
| 08:48 | magnuse | kia ora Brooke |
| 08:48 | Brooke | :) |
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| 08:59 | halfie | hi, does koha supports unicode? I am trying to enter unicode characters in author field but koha gives an error message? |
| 08:59 | how do I make koha support unicode | |
| 09:13 | I followed the wiki page about charsets but I still get "Wide character in subroutine entry" error | |
| 09:18 | hdl | samuel: maybe you could take a look at :http://lists.katipo.co.nz/publ[…]ember/012750.html |
| 09:22 | samuel: or you could checkout the branch csvmigration from the catalyst repository | |
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| 09:35 | Brooke | hey oak :) |
| 09:36 | Oak | hello Brooke :] |
| 09:36 | Ahoy me hearties | |
| 09:36 | Brooke | arrrr |
| 09:36 | Oak | :) |
| 09:36 | Brooke | avast ye swabbie dog |
| 09:36 | Oak | hehe |
| 09:40 | slef | halfie: yes, koha supports unicode. Basically you need to check that the record is really unicode and that each part of the system (mysql, apache, koha, your browser) is correctly configured. |
| 09:41 | hi all | |
| 09:41 | Brooke | yo |
| 09:43 | halfie | @slef: mysql, apache and browser are configured properly. I checked the wiki. How do i ensure koha is setup propery? |
| 09:43 | huginn | halfie: downloading the Perl source |
| 09:46 | halfie | I have removed LEADER field from Book entry page. Can this cause a problem? |
| 09:46 | slef | halfie: Administration: Check Koha-MARC framework or something like that. But have you checked that the record is really unicode? Where did the record come from? Incorrect z39.50 settings can cause corruption. Have you checked all tabs for the unicode unknown-character boxes (like [FF]) or question marks (like <?> but upside down)? |
| 09:47 | halfie: I think so. The leader contains character 10 to signal unicode IIRC. | |
| 09:47 | @marc leader | |
| 09:47 | huginn | slef: unknown tag leader |
| 09:47 | slef | huginn: you suck |
| 09:47 | huginn | slef: I suck |
| 09:47 | Brooke | heh |
| 09:47 | slef | bbl |
| 09:49 | halfie | @slef: my unicode data is correct, it comes from http://www.quillpad.in/hindi/ , no strange characters anywhere in book add page. |
| 09:49 | huginn | halfie: I suck |
| 09:49 | halfie | heh |
| 09:50 | Can I re-add LEADER field back to add book page? is it possible? | |
| 09:51 | Brooke | is encoding in your browser set correctly, because quillpad warns about that. |
| 09:52 | halfie | Brooke: encoding in browser is okay i think, copy pasting unicode text is working fine. |
| 09:54 | Brooke | I'm not keen on that passthrough. We weren't using it at KohaCon. Vimal says use google transliteration or just the native regional keyboard. |
| 09:54 | http://lists.katipo.co.nz/publ[…]ruary/032087.html | |
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| 09:59 | halfie | Brooke: same error with google tool, Wide character in subroutine entry at /usr/share/perl5/MARC/Charset/Table.pm line 96. |
| 10:01 | yay, adding LEADER field solved the unicode entry issues :) :) | |
| 10:01 | now how do i get zebra indexing to work with unicode data? | |
| 10:01 | @slef: Brook: thanks for help | |
| 10:01 | huginn | halfie: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready |
| 10:04 | Brooke | pretty sure it should just work, but ask Magnus or Cait to be sure. Both use special characters routinely. I know that there are things that are unique to hindi and other indic languages, though, so be sure to hit the translate pages to help out. |
| 10:04 | http://translate.koha-community.org/hi/ | |
| 10:09 | Amit_Gupta | heya kf |
| 10:17 | magnuse | for me, indexing strange things like æøå has just worked |
| 10:17 | but i know others have had to use icu indexing to make it work for them | |
| 10:21 | halfie | Brooke: zebra indexing worked with unicode by default |
| 10:22 | error retrieving biblio 3156 at /usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl line 471., now i am seeing a bunch of similar errors, any ideas why? | |
| 10:22 | according to souce bib was found but was un-parseable | |
| 10:22 | s/souce/sources | |
| 10:26 | dgl-library | Hi #koha |
| 10:28 | Amit_Gupta | heya dgl-library |
| 10:28 | wahanui | i think dgl-library is in India |
| 10:28 | Amit_Gupta | heya wahanui |
| 10:28 | dgl-library | namaste amit |
| 10:29 | Amit_Gupta | yes dgl-library |
| 10:29 | wahanui | dgl-library is probably in India |
| 10:29 | dgl-library | yep |
| 10:29 | Amit_Gupta | dgl-library india? |
| 10:29 | dgl-library | yep |
| 10:29 | Amit_Gupta | which city? |
| 10:29 | dgl-library | himachal pradesh |
| 10:29 | small town | |
| 10:29 | Amit_Gupta | which city |
| 10:30 | in hp | |
| 10:47 | dgl-library | sorry, I was away |
| 10:47 | small town. small school. specialised library. how about you? | |
| 10:47 | Does anyone know what the difference is (in practical terms) between "SUBJECT — TOPIC" and "SUBJECT — KEYWORD"? These are MARC 650 and MARC 653, and I don't know quite how Koha handles them, especially in the OPAC. | |
| 10:52 | kf_lunch | dgl-library: 653 is uncontrolled I think - no authority |
| 10:52 | @marc 653 | |
| 10:52 | huginn | kf_lunch: An index term added entry that is not constructed by standard subject heading/thesaurus-building conventions. (Repeatable) [a,6,8] |
| 10:52 | wahanui | i already had it that way, huginn. |
| 10:52 | kf_lunch | @marc 650 |
| 10:52 | huginn | kf_lunch: A subject added entry in which the entry element is a topical term. (Repeatable) [a,b,c,d,e,v,x,y,z,2,3,4,6,8] |
| 10:53 | kf_lunch | dgl-library: so 650 would be linked to a topic authority, while 653 is just text and no authorities |
| 10:55 | dgl-library | and we create our own authority list for that? |
| 10:56 | right now we have no authorities. we've been using 650 and 653 interchangeably with free text, basically | |
| 10:56 | slef | @marc 008 |
| 10:56 | huginn | slef: This field contains 40 character positions (00-39) that provide coded information about the record as a whole and about special bibliographic aspects of the item being cataloged. These coded data elements are potentially useful for retrieval and data management purposes. [] |
| 10:56 | slef | marc21? |
| 10:56 | wahanui | marc21 is at http://www.loc.gov/marc/biblio[…]hic/ecbdlist.html , http://www.loc.gov/marc/authority/ecadlist.html |
| 10:56 | dgl-library | slef: is that for me? |
| 10:57 | slef | dgl-library: no, sorry, for me. Although the authority link may interest you. |
| 10:57 | dgl-library | is there some central repository of data from 650 in koha that is assembled from all the blah blah we've put in, so we can go in and tweak? |
| 10:58 | slef | dgl-library: I'd look in Administration: Authorities, but I'm no cataloguer and may be wrong because I have not checked. |
| 10:58 | bbl | |
| 11:02 | dgl-library | kf_lunch: thanks for the clarification |
| 11:02 | wish I'd asked 6 weeks ago :| | |
| 11:03 | slef: no data under Authorities | |
| 11:03 | Amit_Gupta: and where are you? | |
| 11:04 | slef | dgl-library: did you select TOPIC or whatever it is? |
| 11:06 | I was wrong about the location. It's in http://library:8080/cgi-bin/ko[…]rderby=HeadingAsc | |
| 11:07 | dgl-library | slef: Authority search results |
| 11:07 | No results found | |
| 11:08 | slef | dgl-library: yikes. Worst case, you could use a Report to extract all the 650 and 653 field values and import them as authorities. |
| 11:08 | I've done that for some libraries. No idea if it's good practice myself. | |
| 11:10 | kf_lunch | dgl-library: the reason you don't find them might also be that you haven't set zebra to index them |
| 11:10 | dgl-library: you have to do something like -a -b -z | |
| 11:10 | where -a is for authorities | |
| 11:10 | dgl-library: and perhaps also check your system preferences for authorities | |
| 11:10 | there is one to automatically create authorities | |
| 11:11 | I think perhaps you changed the frameworks to not add them or changed the preferences | |
| 11:11 | you don't have to work with authorities - a lot of libraries do not | |
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| 11:15 | dgl-library | slef: thanks for the report suggestion. |
| 11:16 | kf_lunch: hmm, zebra. maybe. also one small detail— we can't access the OPAC | |
| 11:16 | kf_lunch: possibly related? | |
| 11:19 | lunch | what do you mean by can't access? |
| 11:19 | is there an error message? or is it that you can't search? | |
| 11:20 | * druthb | chuckles, as she gets back from lunch and sees "lunch" logged on. |
| 11:20 | Amit_Gupta | heya druthb |
| 11:24 | kf | oups |
| 11:28 | dgl-library | lunch: can't access means as far as I know, our OPAC is non-existent. it is a non-OPAC. I have never seen our OPAC. I don't believe we have ever had the pleasure of meeting it. No OPAC. |
| 11:29 | lunch: but our staff client works fine. | |
| 11:30 | I've seen one thread describing exactly my problem — http://lists.katipo.co.nz/publ[…]-June/029691.html | |
| 11:30 | but I don't understand the solution | |
| 11:32 | druthb | hi, Amit_Gupta! L) |
| 11:32 | :) | |
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| 11:40 | Amit_Gupta | dgl-library: i m from bangalore |
| 11:41 | dgl-library | Amit_Gupta: nice city. do you work at a library, or are you a koha consultant? |
| 11:43 | Amit_Gupta | i am from Nucsoft Osslabs |
| 11:45 | dgl-library | wow, 50 koha implementations? that's impressive. do you have a librarian on staff? |
| 11:45 | Amit_Gupta | no no i am a developer |
| 11:45 | dgl-library | yes, but you must know a lot about books in order to have installed koha for 50 clients |
| 11:46 | Amit_Gupta | hmm.. |
| 11:55 | kf | dgl-library: hm - opac weirdness :) |
| 11:55 | dgl-library: I think most people have more difficulty finding the staff interface than their opac :) | |
| 11:55 | dgl-library: does search in your staff client work? | |
| 11:55 | Amit_Gupta | heya kf |
| 11:59 | mtj | dgl-library: your OPAC problem is probably caused by an incorrect apache config |
| 12:01 | is it just me - or is the Koha logo squashed on this page? -> http://www.facebook.com/kohails | |
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| 12:04 | kf | mtj: why are you awake? and yes, it's squashed |
| 12:05 | mtj | right... im gonna send nengard a fix for that :) |
| 12:06 | NateC | Morning #Koha |
| 12:07 | mtj | kf: i am feeling perky now, - so gonna do a little Koha work... |
| 12:07 | nengard | mtj - it wasn't squished until the page was upgraded ? thanks for sending a gix |
| 12:07 | or a fix | |
| 12:07 | mtj | heya nate |
| 12:17 | dgl-library | mtj: how would I fix that or diagnose it? seems odd, because I followed the default installation instructions for both debian and koha |
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| 12:19 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
| 12:19 | mtj | dgl-library: start by looking at your apache access.log file |
| 12:20 | and error.log files | |
| 12:20 | dgl-library | mtj: where are those found? |
| 12:20 | mtj | and apache2clt -h |
| 12:20 | /var/log/apache2 or /var/log/apache | |
| 12:20 | dgl-library | mtj: that thread I mentioned referred to a program called webmin that was supposed to simplify diagnosing these problems, but I couldn't get that to work |
| 12:21 | thanks | |
| 12:22 | mtj | # apache2clt -S too |
| 12:22 | dgl-library | is that a command? |
| 12:22 | mtj | yep, sure is |
| 12:23 | oops , apache2ctl not apache2clt :) | |
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| 12:25 | dgl-library | bash: apache2ctl: command not found |
| 12:26 | I wonder if apache is installed at all. | |
| 12:26 | would koha run without it? | |
| 12:27 | oleonard | No |
| 12:29 | mtj | dgl-library: run as root ;) |
| 12:29 | jcamins | o/ |
| 12:29 | magnus_away: thanks. | |
| 12:29 | dgl-library | mtj: ok, thanks |
| 12:30 | mtj: ran it. what am I looking for, exactly? | |
| 12:31 | mtj | run with '-S' |
| 12:32 | dgl-library | did that. |
| 12:32 | got some output. | |
| 12:32 | not sure how to interpret it. | |
| 12:32 | mtj | ...it will dump your apache vhosts - is your OPAC defined as a vhost? |
| 12:33 | dgl-library | can I just paste the output here? |
| 12:33 | mtj | paste your output -> http://paste.koha-community.org/ |
| 12:33 | nah, pasting in #irc is bad :p | |
| 12:34 | pastebot | "dgl-library" at 14.98.79.188 pasted "apache output" (9 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/392 |
| 12:35 | mtj | dgl-library : no opac defined :) |
| 12:35 | dgl-library | mtj: ok, now we know the problem! what's the solutioN? |
| 12:38 | mtj | well, you need 2 koha vhosts - staff and OPAC |
| 12:38 | ... you only have one | |
| 12:38 | port 80 namevhost dgllibrarylocalhost (/etc/apache2/sites-enabled/dgllibrary:4) | |
| 12:39 | (thats prolly your staff vhost?) | |
| 12:39 | dgl-library | I see. Is this covered in the manual somewhere? Maybe I missed a step in the setup. |
| 12:40 | I don't have the Linux skills to fix this without some sort of instructions. | |
| 12:41 | port 8080 is our staff client | |
| 12:42 | mtj | oops, my mistake - i see your staff vhost now :) |
| 12:43 | *:8080 dgllibrarylocalhost (/etc/apache2/sites-enabled/dgllibrary:19) | |
| 12:43 | so, http://dgllibrarylocalhost:80 is OPAC | |
| 12:43 | http://dgllibrarylocalhost:8080 is staff | |
| 12:44 | dgl-library | :80 doesn't work |
| 12:45 | I get the same error as this guy: http://lists.katipo.co.nz/publ[…]-June/029691.html | |
| 12:45 | jcamins | dgl-library: you need to disable your other virtual hosts. |
| 12:45 | dgl-library | If I try port 80, it says "it works! This is the default web page for this server." |
| 12:45 | jcamins: how? | |
| 12:45 | jcamins | Probably `sudo a2dissite default` |
| 12:46 | Run `ls /etc/apache2/sites-enabled` | |
| 12:46 | You don't want anything other than dgllibrary to show up. | |
| 12:46 | For each file that shows up, run `sudo a2dissite` | |
| 12:46 | mtj | rm /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default |
| 12:47 | jcamins | mtj: oh, this isn't Debian? |
| 12:47 | mtj | 000-default is the file causing the 'it works' message |
| 12:47 | tis debian | |
| 12:47 | dgl-library | it's debian |
| 12:48 | jcamins | Yeah, so `sudo a2dissite default` should do it. |
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| 12:48 | dgl-library | jcamins: exactly like that? I don't need to do anything else? |
| 12:50 | jcamins | dgl-library: you need to do that for all the sites you see in sites-enabled, then run `sudo apache2ctl restart` |
| 12:51 | dgl-library | jcamins: sorry to ask for so many clarifications, but how do I do that for each site (or for any particular site)? |
| 12:52 | mtj | no , just that one will be ok |
| 12:52 | jcamins | dgl-library: you run `sudo a2dissite $SITENAME` |
| 12:52 | Replace $SITENAME with the name of the file. | |
| 12:52 | mtj: not necessarily. It depends on the order. | |
| 12:53 | mtj | http://paste.koha-community.org/392 |
| 12:53 | thats the order... | |
| 12:53 | jcamins | Cool. |
| 12:53 | How did you get that? | |
| 12:53 | dgl-library: okay, just the one. | |
| 12:53 | mtj | so, just that one should be ok? |
| 12:54 | dgl-library pasted it :p | |
| 12:54 | jcamins | But what command? |
| 12:54 | wahanui | it has been said that command is missing there, but it's a misc/migration_tools/rebuild-zebra.pl -b -r -v |
| 12:55 | mtj | $ sudo a2dissite default |
| 12:55 | $ sudo apache2ctl restart | |
| 12:55 | jcamins | No, what command to get that output. |
| 12:55 | dgl-library | that's it? |
| 12:55 | mtj | lol |
| 12:55 | dgl-library | mtj: I just need to type those 2 lines? |
| 12:56 | mtj | jcamins: apache2ctl -S |
| 12:56 | jcamins | mtj: ah, cool. I have to remember that. |
| 12:56 | mtj | -S dumps out the vhost config |
| 12:56 | dgl-library: yes | |
| 12:56 | dgl-library | so I type |
| 12:57 | $ sudo a2dissite default | |
| 12:57 | $ sudo apache2ctl restart | |
| 12:57 | mtj | who's on first? |
| 12:57 | dgl-library | and that's it… OPAC problem should be solved? |
| 12:57 | jcamins | mtj: I don't know... |
| 12:57 | third base! | |
| 12:58 | dgl-library: yup. | |
| 12:58 | dgl-library | jcamins: great. thanks. I'll backup everything and then give that a try. |
| 12:58 | logging off now. thanks so much for your help! | |
| 12:59 | kf | backup++ :) dgl-library++ :) |
| 12:59 | dgl-library | bye for now #koha |
| 13:00 | mtj | heh, was kinda hoping to see if it worked... |
| 13:00 | kf | mtj: I think he/she will come back |
| 13:01 | mtj++ :) | |
| 13:04 | jcamins | kf++ # for pointing out that 7837 doesn't belong in 3.6.x. |
| 13:05 | kf | :) |
| 13:05 | bug 7837 | |
| 13:05 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7837 normal, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Pushed to Stable , nb-NO z3950servers.sql misses column names |
| 13:05 | kf | ah :) |
| 13:05 | did the debarrmentdate thing turn out ok? | |
| 13:06 | jcamins | I'm still trying to figure out what that patch did. |
| 13:06 | debar is still boolean in 3.6.x. | |
| 13:06 | But the patch applied cleanly. | |
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| 13:08 | kf | jcamins: confusing! |
| 13:08 | wahanui | confusing is probably "Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?" |
| 13:08 | * jcamins | ponders. |
| 13:11 | oleonard | Well, can't argue with wahanui there. |
| 13:11 | jcamins | Well, bother. |
| 13:11 | kf | jcamins: I think if you can still debar someone... it's perhaps ot that important? |
| 13:12 | jcamins | kf: right now what's troubling me is that I appear to have screwed up Chrome. :( |
| 13:13 | I'm setting up a new 3.6.x installation to retest the debarring, because I feel like it must be broken. | |
| 13:13 | Chrome won't let me go through the webinstaller. | |
| 13:16 | Ah. | |
| 13:16 | Yes, I do need to revert that patch. | |
| 13:16 | kf | jcamins: oh |
| 13:16 | jcamins | Debarring still works, but there's an extra date that I hadn't noticed. |
| 13:17 | kf++ # for pointing out bug 7699, too | |
| 13:17 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7699 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Stable , Restricted until datepicker broken |
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| 13:19 | kf | wb dgl-library |
| 13:19 | dgl-library | kf: thanks :) |
| 13:20 | kf | mtj was curious if it worked .) |
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| 13:20 | dgl-library | haven't done it yet. will take a while to backup first. |
| 13:20 | but I'll let you know! | |
| 13:27 | jcamins | Anyone who wants to have a say in what goes into Koha 3.6.5 has about two hours to make their thoughts known. |
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| 13:33 | slef | Is there a nice way to remove itemless bibs? |
| 13:33 | wahanui: faq? | |
| 13:33 | wahanui | i think faq is found at http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/ |
| 13:34 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #47 for job Koha_3.6.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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| 13:35 | jcamins | slef: I think there is in 3.8, maybe. |
| 13:36 | slef | jcamins: heh. This is a 3.0 lib who I'm doing a little work for before they decide whether to upgrade. I guess I mess with mysql and the C4 API then. |
| 13:37 | jcamins | slef: yeah, I think that's the only way to do it in 3.0. |
| 13:39 | kf | jcamins: I think you can't do it in 3.8 - only when you have items |
| 13:39 | jcamins | kf: oh, I haven't used that feature. |
| 13:39 | kf | when you batch delete items, you can delete the record with the last item |
| 13:40 | perhaps you were thinking of that? it's new in 3.8 | |
| 13:40 | jcamins | kf: yeah, that's what I was thinking of. |
| 13:40 | kf | and hi slef :) |
| 13:45 | * wizzyrea | waves |
| 13:46 | gmcharlt | good morning |
| 13:46 | kf | hi gmcharlt and wizzyrea too :) |
| 13:47 | jcamins | Good morning, gmcharlt and wizzyrea. |
| 13:48 | druthb | hi, gmcharlt and wizzyrea! :) |
| 13:48 | * jcamins | eagerly awaits wise feedback from wizzyrea and/or gmcharlt on what should or should not be included in 3.6.5. Feedback that they will no doubt offer well in advance of the deadline in 2:12. |
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| 13:49 | wizzyrea | ! |
| 13:49 | * wizzyrea | ponders |
| 13:49 | jcamins | :) |
| 13:49 | kf | a fix for the broken cart would be great... |
| 13:49 | jcamins | nengard and paul_p are also welcomed to give any feedback they may have. |
| 13:49 | kf | (but we don't have a patch for that yet :( ) |
| 13:49 | jcamins | kf: there's no patch. |
| 13:50 | nengard | ?? missed something |
| 13:50 | jcamins | nengard: 3.6.5. |
| 13:50 | You have 2:10 before it enters string freeze. | |
| 13:50 | kf | nengard: it's only broken in all translations - english works fine |
| 13:50 | nengard | k ? webinar time for me - be back later ;) |
| 13:50 | kf | bug 8062 |
| 13:50 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8062 critical, P5 - low, ---, frederic, NEW , Cart email broken for non english templates |
| 13:50 | kf | have fun :) |
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| 14:05 | slef | 15:04:31-10/05 zebraidx(5030) [log] MARC: Bad directory |
| 14:05 | 15:04:31-10/05 zebraidx(5030) [warn] MARC: Bad offsets in data. Skipping rest | |
| 14:05 | I don't like the look of that | |
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| 14:07 | kf | yes, does not look like fun |
| 14:07 | jcamins | slef: use -x |
| 14:08 | slef | jcamins: ta. Trying. |
| 14:08 | is -x slower? Why don't I usually use it? | |
| 14:09 | Wide character in null operation at /usr/share/perl5/MARC/Charset/Table.pm line 96 | |
| 14:09 | arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh! | |
| 14:10 | jcamins | slef: no, it's faster. |
| 14:11 | slef | rerunning with -k so I can look at the export |
| 14:11 | jcamins | We don't always use -x because until gmcharlt's recent work on DOM indexing, -x didn't work with authorities. |
| 14:12 | Speaking of which... | |
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| 14:13 | jcamins | paul_p: ooh, I was just thinking about you. |
| 14:13 | Is there any sample UNIMARC database that I could download? | |
| 14:13 | * paul_p | hope it was thinking about me in good terms ;-) |
| 14:13 | jcamins | I was thinking "I hope paul_p comes around so that he can share a UNIMARC sample dataset." |
| 14:13 | paul_p | jcamins as soon as i'll have access to git.koha-community.org/contrib repo, i'll push the sandbox database ! |
| 14:14 | I and clrh have asked gmcharlt already, but still no success :( | |
| 14:14 | jcamins | paul_p: who can give you access to the contrib repo? |
| 14:14 | gmcharlt? | |
| 14:14 | wahanui | rumour has it gmcharlt is an expert in all things library technology |
| 14:14 | paul_p | (clrh will push the KOCT code and I'll push the sandboxes) |
| 14:14 | jcamins yep, gmcharlt | |
| 14:14 | jcamins | We had some trouble getting my access to the main repo set up, too. |
| 14:15 | gmcharlt: please help! paul_p needs access to the contrib repo to share the UNIMARC sample data, which I need to sign off on the UNIMARC DOM index config, which is required for the DOM code passing QA. | |
| 14:15 | clrh | I sent another mail yesterday to gmcharlt about wip/biblibre...git too |
| 14:15 | kf | hm |
| 14:15 | wasn't he here a minute ago? | |
| 14:16 | jcamins | gmcharlt was here just a few minutes ago. |
| 14:16 | kf | yep |
| 14:16 | paul_p: perhaps you could do a pull request? or push it to the biblibre repo? | |
| 14:16 | jcamins | @later tell rangi the MyKoha demo is down. |
| 14:16 | huginn | jcamins: The operation succeeded. |
| 14:18 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.6.x build #47: SUCCESS in 43 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.6.x/47/ |
| 14:18 | * jcamins: Revert "Bug 7837 - nb-NO z3950servers.sql misses column names" | |
| 14:18 | * jcamins: Revert "Bug 7699: Restricted until datepicker broken" | |
| 14:18 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7837 normal, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Pushed to Stable , nb-NO z3950servers.sql misses column names |
| 14:18 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7699 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Stable , Restricted until datepicker broken | |
| 14:26 | jcamins | paul_p: any chance you could put the dataset on a web server temporarily? |
| 14:26 | slef | bloody leader bloody character bloody MARC-8 no it's bloody not |
| 14:26 | jcamins | slef: sounds like a typical MARC record to me. |
| 14:27 | slef | did my if-fail-retry-as-the-other-encoding patch ever make it into Koha? |
| 14:28 | gmcharlt | clrh: I was able to successfully push to the contrib repo |
| 14:29 | paul_p should try something git push gitmastergit.koha-community.org:contrib/global local_branch_name:desired_remote_branch_name |
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| 14:29 | clrh | gmcharlt: so I 'll retry |
| 14:31 | jcamins | slef: it doesn't ring any bells. |
| 14:32 | clrh | $ git remote -v |
| 14:32 | koha-contribgitmasterkoha-community.org:contrib/global.git (fetch) |
|
| 14:32 | $ git push koha-contrib master:koct | |
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| 14:36 | clrh | nothing happens |
| 14:36 | ssh: connect to host koha-community.org port 22: Connection timed out | |
| 14:36 | fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly | |
| 14:36 | jcamins | clrh: you have a typo in your git remote. |
| 14:36 | Open up .git/config and change "gitmasterkoha-community.org" to "gitmastergit.koha-community.org" |
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| 14:39 | (notice the "git." before the URL) | |
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| 15:01 | reiveune | bye |
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| 15:06 | clrh | thanks jcamins ! |
| 15:06 | but I have a gitmaster password asked | |
| 15:07 | jcamins | clrh: did you send gmcharlt your public key? |
| 15:07 | clrh | yes |
| 15:07 | jcamins | Hm. |
| 15:07 | I'm not sure what the problem is. We had trouble when I first tried to push, too. | |
| 15:07 | clrh | I didn't changed it ;) |
| 15:07 | hm | |
| 15:08 | jcamins | He changed something for me then it started working. |
| 15:08 | kf | perhaps gmcharlt can check if it's correctly configured for claire once more? |
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| 15:21 | clrh | I have to leave - I'll read the chan later thx |
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| 15:39 | pastebot | "gmcharlt" at 50.79.238.214 pasted "clrh: this is the right key?" (1 line) at http://paste.koha-community.org/393 |
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| 16:00 | kf | qa_team++ sekjal++ joubu++ |
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| 16:03 | kf | marcelr++ |
| 16:06 | jcamins | Well folks, it's time. |
| 16:06 | kf | to go home? |
| 16:06 | oh | |
| 16:06 | jcamins | No, string freeze. |
| 16:06 | kf | string freeze :) |
| 16:06 | jcamins | kf: also, you should probably go home. |
| 16:07 | kf | I am about to :) |
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| 16:20 | francharb | hi |
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| 16:25 | Morthland | Howdy. |
| 16:25 | How can I print a list of patrons with their card numbers? | |
| 16:35 | oleonard | Maybe export to CSV and open in a spreadsheet program? |
| 16:37 | jcamins | Morthland: you could write a report to do that. |
| 16:37 | There might even already be one. | |
| 16:37 | sql reports library? | |
| 16:37 | wahanui | sql reports library is at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]L_Reports_Library |
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| 16:41 | * jcamins | cheers the accounting homework-doing crowd. |
| 16:43 | cait | heh |
| 16:43 | :) | |
| 16:43 | jcamins++ | |
| 16:45 | Morthland | Thank you. |
| 16:53 | sekjal | okay, lunchtime. bbiab |
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| 17:41 | Topic for #koha is now Koha 3.8.0, 3.6.4 and 3.4.8 Now Available | Koha Community Website - http://www.koha-community.org/ | General IRC meeting, 13 June 2012 at 18:00 UTC+0 | |
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| 17:54 | druthb | o/ |
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| 18:02 | oleonard | Hi druthb |
| 18:02 | druthb | hi, oleonard! |
| 18:03 | cait | hi oleonard :) |
| 18:03 | hi druthb :) | |
| 18:04 | * druthb | squeals and waves at cait. |
| 18:04 | jcamins | druthb: order cait to go do her accounting homework. |
| 18:07 | druthb | but, jcamins.... uhm. |
| 18:07 | If she leaves, then she won't be here. | |
| 18:07 | jcamins | druthb: true, and she'll feel guilty about not doing her homework earlier when she should've, right? |
| 18:08 | druthb | fair 'nuf.. and she can come back when finishes. |
| 18:08 | * druthb | stomps her lil foot, and points and the homework. |
| 18:08 | druthb | s/points and/points at/ |
| 18:09 | cait | lol |
| 18:09 | there is no way I am going to finish it today I fear | |
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| 18:11 | druthb | it's 20:11 where you are, cait? |
| 18:11 | cait | yes |
| 18:11 | druthb | Would working on it until 21:00 help? |
| 18:11 | cait | it would |
| 18:15 | druthb | Then go do that! |
| 18:15 | oleonard++ | |
| 18:17 | cait | :P |
| 18:24 | sekjal | wow, college dining halls have improved by quantum leaps since my day |
| 18:24 | jcamins | sekjal: really? |
| 18:25 | I've noticed that med schools have pretty good dining halls. | |
| 18:25 | sekjal | well, my sample set is pretty small... |
| 18:25 | jcamins | sekjal: so's mine. |
| 18:25 | sekjal | but UMass Dining Commons is vastly better than anything I had at UW |
| 18:25 | (today was staff appreciation day or some such.... free lunch) | |
| 18:26 | jcamins | Woohoo! |
| 18:26 | T*I*SATAAFL! | |
| 18:26 | :) | |
| 18:27 | (There *Is* Such A Thing As A Free Lunch) | |
| 18:28 | sekjal | it was good |
| 18:28 | I feel like a snake now, though... ready to curl up somewhere warm and sleep | |
| 18:28 | * druthb | gets out a big rock and a heat lamp |
| 18:29 | jcamins | Speaking of lunch, I'd kind of like some of the amazing walnut-pomegranate dal I made yesterday, but I am currently in use as a throne. |
| 18:30 | And every time I shift, the center of the universe gives me a glare. | |
| 18:30 | oleonard | jcamins: Simulate rebellion among the serfs by tossing something chaseable? |
| 18:31 | jcamins | oleonard: hehe. |
| 18:31 | sekjal | laser |
| 18:31 | jcamins | I should keep jingly balls around for that. |
| 18:32 | oleonard | When I had a dog I could shout "Hello?" towards the front door and she would bark, startling the cats out of whatever they were doing. |
| 18:34 | jcamins | That's fantastic. |
| 18:36 | koha 3.10? | |
| 18:36 | wahanui, that wasn't very helpful. | |
| 18:36 | wahanui | jcamins: excuse me? |
| 18:36 | jcamins | I will not! |
| 18:37 | roles for 3.10? | |
| 18:37 | 3.10? | |
| 18:37 | cait | koha 3.10 will have a build in cat distraction module? |
| 18:37 | jcamins | Roles for 3.10 is http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ki/Roles_for_3.10 |
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| 18:37 | jcamins | roles for 3.10? |
| 18:37 | wahanui | i think roles for 3.10 is http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ki/Roles_for_3.10 |
| 18:37 | jcamins | There we go. |
| 18:38 | druthb | wahanui: druthb? |
| 18:38 | wahanui | somebody said druthb was thinking she likes Amman. A lot. |
| 18:42 | jcamins | :) |
| 18:44 | cait | :) |
| 18:44 | well | |
| 18:45 | cait likes having druthb closer to her timezone | |
| 18:47 | jcamins | You know, walnut-pomegranate dal was really rather inspired. |
| 18:47 | If I say so myself. | |
| 18:47 | cait | :) |
| 18:50 | wizzyrea | WHAT |
| 18:50 | walnut pomegranate dal?! | |
| 18:51 | that sounds amazing. | |
| 18:51 | * druthb | jumps at wizzyrea's yell |
| 18:51 | wizzyrea | brb |
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| 18:51 | * wizzyrea | waves |
| 18:51 | wizzyrea | hey druthb :) |
| 18:51 | oleonard | That was a quick trip to the grocery store wizzyrea |
| 18:51 | druthb | hi, sweet wizzyrea! |
| 18:51 | jcamins | Hehe. |
| 18:51 | wizzyrea | well my colloquy was acting up |
| 19:03 | don't be quiet on account of me | |
| 19:03 | druthb | :P |
| 19:03 | jcamins | wizzyrea: the dal is like vegetarian fesenjan. |
| 19:03 | :) | |
| 19:03 | * wizzyrea | has to look that up |
| 19:04 | * jcamins | isn't surprised. |
| 19:04 | had to ask his Iranian friend what it was called. | |
| 19:04 | wizzyrea | also, I have a video game framework |
| 19:04 | oh pomegranate and walnut stew | |
| 19:04 | * druthb | is going on a quest for cola. no vending machines here. None. I'm hoping the c-store is still open, otherwise it's a solid half-mile hike to the grocery store. |
| 19:04 | wizzyrea | I see |
| 19:04 | good luck druthb | |
| 19:05 | schuster | Question - with the in line report prompts who did the modification? I couldn't find it easily in Bugzilla. |
| 19:05 | jcamins | schuster: what do you mean? |
| 19:05 | wizzyrea | ? |
| 19:05 | schuster | Reports where you can now put <<Pick your branch|branches>> and it prompts for your branch |
| 19:06 | cait | schuster: what is your question? :) |
| 19:06 | schuster | Documentation says it only works with three authorized values.Branches, Item Types and Patron Categories |
| 19:06 | cait | hm no |
| 19:06 | authorized values too | |
| 19:06 | jcamins | Oh, that's wrong. |
| 19:06 | cait | and it#s in the newest documentation I think, because I think I remember from translating |
| 19:07 | schuster | Can you do 2 at a time? I did branches and then tried ccode and it reported back a blank report. needs to go try it without the branches... |
| 19:08 | wizzyrea | yes, you can do as many parameters as you want |
| 19:08 | jcamins | schuster: you can do as many runtime parameters as you want. |
| 19:08 | wizzyrea | jinx |
| 19:09 | cait | jcamins: I think you have to give her a beverage now or something like that |
| 19:09 | schuster | hmmm need to do a little more maybe it is something in my SQL... I'm not able to do ccode it comes back blank. |
| 19:09 | cait | how did you do it? |
| 19:09 | jcamins | cait: I thought I wasn't around to talk until someone else said "jinx" or something like that. |
| 19:09 | cait | perhaps paste your sql to paste.koha-community? |
| 19:10 | jinx? | |
| 19:10 | jcamins: I always forget how this works :( | |
| 19:10 | I remember sth with coke | |
| 19:10 | wizzyrea | nah, I just jinxed, I didn't put any conditions on it |
| 19:10 | :) | |
| 19:11 | * jcamins | installs the new version of LibreOffice. |
| 19:11 | cait | :) |
| 19:12 | schuster | Ah I think I was mixing ccode with location... |
| 19:13 | jcamins | Myshkin is snoring loudly and pointedly. I wonder why. |
| 19:14 | schuster | That is Way cool and will offer me a LOT more flexibility without having to think 5 times before doing it with 67 locations! |
| 19:18 | cait | schuster: it really is way cool :) |
| 19:21 | jcamins | schuster: the new authority linking will be in 3.6.5. |
| 19:22 | :) | |
| 19:23 | schuster | jcamins - that too is WAY cool... is anyone looking at modifying the frameworks to display/allow editing of the 336-338 tags for RDA? |
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| 19:24 | jcamins | schuster: chris_n and I were discussing redoing frameworks in a way that would make that easier. |
| 19:24 | However, no progress that I know of yet. | |
| 19:25 | And, of course, display is something else. | |
| 19:26 | * jcamins | reflects on how one would display the 336-338 fields. |
| 19:26 | schuster | Trying to be that forward thinker here in preparation... I know a couple of vendors have asked if we want that data yet. |
| 19:28 | jcamins | Yeah, I've thought about that, but it's one of those chicken and egg problems- I'd love to be able to say "oh, yeah, RDA-specific tags, those are totally supported by Koha," but I don't know of anyone who would actually use that feature. |
| 19:31 | * wizzyrea | created a video game framework today |
| 19:31 | jcamins | We really don't do anything with any 3xx fields other than 300, come to think of it. |
| 19:31 | I don't think we even use 306 or 310. | |
| 19:31 | Ugh. | |
| 19:35 | wizzyrea: did it make good use of any 3xx fields? | |
| 19:35 | wizzyrea | no >.> |
| 19:35 | oh, lies | |
| 19:35 | 300 :P | |
| 19:35 | schuster | yeah... not really 3xx fields were all pretty lame before |
| 19:35 | jcamins | wizzyrea: wise. |
| 19:36 | schuster | but if we are letting go of 245h - somehow we need to ponder display for these new 3xx's |
| 19:36 | * wizzyrea | has it as a sql framework export file |
| 19:36 | * jcamins | would love to see 342 and 343 being used. |
| 19:36 | schuster | marc 300 |
| 19:37 | Oh what is the MARC documetation call? | |
| 19:37 | jcamins | @marc 300 |
| 19:37 | huginn | jcamins: A physical description of the described item, including its extent, dimensions, and such other physical details as a description of any accompanying materials and unit type and size. (Repeatable) [a,b,c,e,f,g,3,6,8] |
| 19:37 | schuster | @marc 336 |
| 19:37 | huginn | schuster: unknown tag 336 |
| 19:37 | schuster | @marc 342 |
| 19:37 | huginn | schuster: A description of the frame of reference for the coordinates in a data set. To work with a data set a user must be able to identify how location accuracy has been affected through the application of a geospatial reference method, thus enabling the user to manipulate the data set to recover location accuracy. (Repeatable) [a,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,i,j,k,l,m,n,o,p,q,r,s,t,u,v,w,2,6,8] |
| 19:38 | jcamins | @later tell gmcharlt If it's easy to do, huginn's marc tag database could use updating. |
| 19:38 | huginn | jcamins: The operation succeeded. |
| 19:38 | jcamins | schuster: yes, I confess I choose weird tags to focus on. |
| 19:39 | schuster | Made me worried I was talking about the wrong ones!! |
| 19:39 | jcamins | schuster: no, you had the right tags in mind. |
| 19:42 | schuster: are your vendors offering records using 240/380 uniform titles? | |
| 19:48 | schuster | I have not inquired on that front. Again I think most of the vendors are waiting for us to tell them what we want.... chicken and egg problem. |
| 19:49 | jcamins | Understandable. I was just curious whether that was something else we should be thinking about. |
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| 19:53 | chris_n | nengard: about? |
| 19:53 | nengard | sort of |
| 19:53 | chris_n | heh |
| 19:54 | nengard | multi-tasking :) |
| 19:54 | chris_n | have a read at this if you will: http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]g.cgi?id=7977#c51 |
| 19:54 | huginn | 04Bug 7977: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, Signed Off , Add a "Quote-of-the-day" feature to the OPAC homepage |
| 19:54 | chris_n | and let me know what you think |
| 19:55 | nengard | replied |
| 19:55 | you should probably remove the link for now | |
| 19:55 | I won't remember the url you used :) | |
| 19:55 | * chris_n | confesses that he ate all of the brownies :-( |
| 19:55 | nengard | and once it's in Koha I"ll document it/copy what you have in the help file to the manual |
| 19:55 | chris_n | nengard: so remove the links and references to them? |
| 19:55 | nengard | i think so ?. |
| 19:55 | is that okay? | |
| 19:55 | chris_n | ok |
| 19:55 | I'll do that in my follow up | |
| 19:56 | oleonard | Bye #koha |
| 19:56 | chris_n | I hope I have written the help in such a way that you can mostly cut-n-paste |
| 19:56 | bye oleonard | |
| 19:56 | wizzyrea | bye oleonard |
| 19:56 | chris_n | nengard: thanks! |
| 20:01 | cait | chris_n: I wonder if it works with manual login, when you leave the autoselfcheck preferences empty? |
| 20:01 | reading your mail to the list right now :) | |
| 20:02 | and do a manual login at the stations, not doing it automatically | |
| 20:02 | chris_n | schuster just sent me an email to that effect |
| 20:02 | * chris_n | is giddy with the thought that it is that simple |
| 20:03 | cait | :) |
| 20:03 | chris_n | if so |
| 20:03 | cait | fingers crossed! |
| 20:03 | chris_n | we need a wiki page, tutorial, lights and banners, food, etc. to celebrate :-) |
| 20:04 | schuster | I'm not in production yet, but it looks like it will work. That was my fear when I originally saw that development that we would not be able to do that... |
| 20:04 | manually log in due to multiple branches. | |
| 20:04 | Our 42 elementary schools almost all use it daily! | |
| 20:09 | chris_n | schuster: so it works in your sandbox? |
| 20:09 | if so, I'll put it into production next semester | |
| 20:10 | schuster | yes |
| 20:10 | chris_n | many, many people will be very,very happy... me included |
| 20:10 | cool | |
| 20:10 | * chris_n | sends schuster lots of chocolate and other goodies |
| 20:10 | schuster | I logged in with the generic user for that campus searched sql for that location - checked an item out and then checked SQL and it had incremented by 1 |
| 20:10 | druthb joined #koha | |
| 20:10 | chris_n | wonderful |
| 20:11 | * chris_n | has to run or miss his ride home |
| 20:11 | chris_n | bbl |
| 20:11 | schuster | Of course that was after fixing sco_main.pl that owen had fixed and the bug is pushed.. |
| 20:11 | druthb | success! The c-store across the street might as well have been on mars--the "street" is six lanes of bumper-to-bumper, making 60km/hr or better. So I walked the half-mile to the grocery store. |
| 20:11 | schuster | by! glad I could help for a change! |
| 20:12 | Well that's one way to get your excersize in | |
| 20:12 | How badly do you want to go to the grocery store!... | |
| 20:13 | druthb | yah. And way cheaper than the buying sodas from room service. Two dinars for a little bitty can of coke is ludicrous. I bought five *liters*, plus two packs of amazing little cookies, for 3.10 dinars. |
| 20:14 | cait | and then you carried 5 litres of coke back.. even more excercise :) |
| 20:15 | druthb | yes. and it's *diet* coke, which the hotel does not have at all. |
| 20:16 | For the USians benefit, these cookies are like silver-dollar sized moon pies, only with coconut sprinkled on top. | |
| 20:16 | * druthb | plans to bring some home for wizzyrea and the minion, fer sure. |
| 20:16 | * jcamins | isn't sure what a moon pie is. |
| 20:16 | druthb | ! |
| 20:17 | jcamins | Wikipedia did not really clarify much. |
| 20:17 | What are the cookies called in Arabic? | |
| 20:17 | druthb | tsk tsk. two cookies, with marshmallow creme between, all dipped in chocolate. |
| 20:17 | jcamins | Ah. |
| 20:17 | druthb | the english printing on this package is "Cikilop" |
| 20:18 | jcamins | Ah, it's Turkish. :) |
| 20:19 | druthb | they're teh yum. |
| 20:19 | four packages of eight cookies, for less than a dinar. | |
| 20:20 | rangi | jcamins: demo site should be back up |
| 20:20 | jcamins | rangi: thanks. |
| 20:21 | wizzyrea | i approve of anything that has coconut on it |
| 20:21 | also, flipboard for android. that is all. | |
| 20:21 | rangi | morning btw |
| 20:21 | jcamins | Morning. |
| 20:21 | wahanui | morning is a state of mind. or whenever the cat wants breakfast. |
| 20:22 | wizzyrea | mornin :) |
| 20:23 | cait | oh yum |
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| 20:33 | jcamins | Speaking of yummy things -- as we were fifteen minutes ago -- what should I do with quinoa for dinner tonight? |
| 20:35 | wizzyrea | make fried quinoa cakes |
| 20:35 | jcamins | Hmm. |
| 20:35 | wizzyrea | only one of many recipes: http://greatist.com/health/rec[…]noa-cakes-041912/ |
| 20:35 | druthb | mmmmmm |
| 20:35 | wizzyrea | they are *fantastic* |
| 20:36 | 10 minutes per side seems… long. | |
| 20:37 | cait | :) |
| 20:41 | * sekjal | is messing around with DokuWiki... with the data plugin, it's pretty sweet |
| 20:41 | cait | :) |
| 20:43 | jcamins | An intriguing idea, but I think we'll be going with quinoa falafel on a bed of quinoa. |
| 20:43 | So, I'm not very creative. | |
| 20:43 | druthb | mmmm...falafel.... |
| 20:44 | jcamins | druthb: you can get much better falafel than I can. |
| 20:44 | druthb | I'm sure. |
| 20:45 | cait | sekjal: looks interesting :) |
| 20:46 | ibeardslee | well, learn something new everyday in here .. 2013 has been declared UN International Year of Quinoa |
| 20:48 | jcamins | ibeardslee: huh. I didn't know that. |
| 20:49 | sekjal | is that intended to increase supply, or demand? |
| 20:49 | or just awareness? | |
| 20:49 | ibeardslee | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Q[…]story_and_culture |
| 20:50 | follow that through to a pdf from the UN General Assembly | |
| 20:50 | schuster | never heard of quinoa before what is it? |
| 20:50 | jcamins | http://www.un.org/ga/search/vi[…]mbol=A/RES/66/221 |
| 20:50 | ibeardslee | I'd never heard of it before, that's why I hit wikipedia |
| 20:51 | jcamins | schuster: it's a type of grain. |
| 20:51 | A very healthful one. | |
| 20:51 | druthb | schuster: I'd not heard of it before I left texas, either. |
| 20:55 | @wunder Amman | |
| 20:55 | huginn | druthb: The current temperature in Amman Airport, Jordan is 18.0°C (12:00 AM EEST on May 11, 2012). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 39%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Rising). |
| 20:56 | sekjal | @wunder 01003 |
| 20:56 | huginn | sekjal: The current temperature in Computer Science Bldg - University of Massachusetts, Amherst, Massachusetts is 14.1°C (4:55 PM EDT on May 10, 2012). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 29.58 in 1002 hPa (Rising). |
| 20:57 | wizzyrea | quinoa is like the grain of the gods. |
| 20:58 | schuster | @wunder 75074 |
| 20:58 | huginn | schuster: The current temperature in Brookview, Plano, Texas is 26.7°C (3:55 PM CDT on May 10, 2012). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 22%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady). |
| 20:58 | sekjal | g'night, #koha! |
| 20:58 | bag | @wunder 93109 |
| 20:58 | huginn | bag: The current temperature in K6LCM-Westside/Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 19.2°C (1:58 PM PDT on May 10, 2012). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.91 in 1013 hPa (Steady). |
| 20:59 | wizzyrea | @wunder lawrence, ks |
| 20:59 | huginn | wizzyrea: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 26.2°C (3:57 PM CDT on May 10, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 43%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Falling). |
| 20:59 | druthb | It cools off very dramatically here after dark...the high today was 37. |
| 20:59 | schuster | its the wunder game... Wow Kansas is almost as bad as Dallas! worse if you look at the humidity! |
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| 21:27 | rangi | @wunder nzwn |
| 21:27 | huginn | rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 11.0°C (9:00 AM NZST on May 11, 2012). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady). |
| 21:29 | jcamins | @wunder 11375 |
| 21:29 | huginn | jcamins: The current temperature in APRSWXNET Jackson Heights NY US, Corona, New York is 16.1°C (5:02 PM EDT on May 10, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 34%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Pressure: 29.64 in 1004 hPa (Rising). |
| 21:29 | rangi | oh i didnt know the programme was taking shape cool! |
| 21:29 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_Schedule#Timings | |
| 21:30 | yay first day! | |
| 21:30 | then i can relax | |
| 21:30 | liw | rangi :) |
| 21:38 | * mtj | purchased some quinoa from the supermarket, just yesterday |
| 21:41 | rangi | liw: did you see http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]chedule#Timings_2 |
| 21:41 | should work eh? | |
| 21:42 | liw | rangi, yep, that looks fine |
| 21:42 | I assume "Debian packaging" is me and "Koha packaging" is eythian | |
| 21:42 | rangi | thats the one |
| 21:44 | liw | cool |
| 22:01 | bag | bug 1807 |
| 22:01 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1807 blocker, P3, ---, chris, Failed QA , ':' character blocks search ; search () give odd results |
| 22:05 | jcamins | Oh yeah, that's a nice one. |
| 22:07 | rangi | yeah that one is annoying |
| 22:10 | jcamins | The solution, of course, is a Search.pm rewrite. |
| 22:10 | Preferably using some sort of query parser. | |
| 22:12 | liw | Search.pm... Search.pm... oh dear, I'm not going to be able to sleep tonight, I'll be tossing and turning trying to get images of that out of my head |
| 22:15 | rangi | heh |
| 22:15 | yeah, that thing is horrid | |
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