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| 00:04 | mib_1s3kly | Hi everyone! |
| 00:04 | I have just installed koha | |
| 00:05 | i have create a new record, but when i try to index the database with Zebra i get this error: | |
| 01:19 | mtj | aw, c'mon... whats the error? |
| 01:21 | eythian | that was the error |
| 01:31 | rangi | heh |
| 01:44 | oleonard++ | |
| 01:51 | renren joined #koha | |
| 01:52 | renren | good day to all |
| 01:52 | rangi | hi renren |
| 01:53 | renren | hi |
| 01:53 | i just want to ask about =koha | |
| 01:54 | is there a way to intigrate the rfid on koha library system aside from Bar code? | |
| 01:55 | rangi | hmm it will need some unique identifier still, does you rfid reader speak SIP2 ? |
| 01:56 | * rangi | has to go to a meeting in 5 mins, so you might be better asking this on the mailing list |
| 01:57 | renren | but it is possible to intigrate? |
| 01:57 | eythian | yes, people have done it |
| 01:58 | renren | by the way. do u have a installation manual regarding on koha? |
| 01:58 | im sorry but im a basic linux guy, | |
| 01:59 | eythian | have a look on the website and the wiki, there are plenty of guides there depending on how you want to isntall it |
| 01:59 | also the INSTALL docs in the arvhice itself | |
| 01:59 | * eythian | -> meeting |
| 01:59 | renren | when im installing a koha on linux, there is a lot of error when i comes to perl side |
| 02:10 | sir eythian | |
| 02:10 | are u still there? | |
| 02:17 | what other ifid that support the koha lib system? | |
| 02:19 | mtj | renren: ask about rfid on the koha mailing-list |
| 02:21 | i do not know what brands of rfid to recommend to you | |
| 02:21 | and i recommend to use the debian packages for Koha installation on linux | |
| 02:22 | http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian | |
| 02:24 | renren | ok |
| 02:26 | is ubuntu is a debian packages? | |
| 02:30 | mtj | hmmm, maybe... i have not tried myself |
| 02:30 | renren | what kind of debian linux? |
| 02:31 | mtj | debian stable? |
| 02:32 | i'm not sure what you mean | |
| 02:32 | renren | ok |
| 02:32 | mtj | fyi: 'squeeze' is debian-stable |
| 02:32 | renren | so im going to download the debian squeeze to install the koha lib system? |
| 02:32 | mtj | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debian |
| 02:33 | Latest stable release6.0.4 (Squeeze) (28 January 2012; 2 months ago) | |
| 02:33 | renren | ok |
| 02:33 | mtj | yep, or download a Koha VM |
| 02:34 | ... those are the 2 easiest ways to get a Koha running :) | |
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| 02:35 | mtj | renren: kyle.hall has some good Koha VMs |
| 02:35 | http://kylehall.info/index.php[…]irtual-appliance/ | |
| 02:37 | renren | thanks for your help guys |
| 02:38 | by the way.. what kind of rfid do u implement on koha? | |
| 02:40 | mtj | renren: me? i have not done any RFID with Koha , but many people have |
| 02:40 | i only have done SIP and 3M self-checkout machines | |
| 02:40 | renren | sip is the direct to pc card reader right? |
| 02:41 | mtj | so, best to ask RFID questions on the Koha lists - you should get some good info |
| 02:41 | renren | ok |
| 02:42 | mtj | no really -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S[…]erchange_Protocol |
| 02:42 | "The Standard Interchange Protocol is a proprietary standard for communication between library computer systems and self-service circulation terminals." | |
| 02:42 | s/no/not/ :) | |
| 02:43 | but yes... its the protocol that card-readers talk to PCs | |
| 02:44 | renren | ahh ok |
| 02:49 | rangi | fg |
| 02:52 | eythian | ^Z bg |
| 02:52 | http://blogs.msdn.com/b/oldnew[…]4/10/2065727.aspx <-- what "10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3" on book copyright pages means | |
| 03:08 | Somewhere, there's a MARC field for linking to an image of something. Anyone know what that? Not 856$u. | |
| 03:08 | s/that/that is/ | |
| 03:08 | rangi | not me |
| 03:09 | eythian | I remember seeing it one day, but now I can't remember. |
| 03:09 | rangi | there is a syspref to enable you to use 866$u for that |
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| 03:10 | eythian | that might suit |
| 03:10 | Display856uAsImage | |
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| 04:47 | mib_vcfq4w | Hi everyone. I have just installed koha. i have create a new record, but when i try to reindex with Zebra i get the following error: |
| 04:48 | zebraidx(5748) [warn] Record didn't contain match fields in (bib1,Local-number) | |
| 04:48 | rangi | what version of koha? |
| 04:48 | mib_vcfq4w | the last version |
| 04:48 | 3.6.2 | |
| 04:48 | rangi | hmm the latest is 3.6.4 |
| 04:49 | mib_vcfq4w | sorry |
| 04:49 | 3.6.4 | |
| 04:49 | you have the reason | |
| 04:49 | rangi | but either way, you shouldn't get that error, how are you running the reindex? |
| 04:49 | mib_vcfq4w | like this: |
| 04:51 | rangi | yay for mibbit! |
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| 04:52 | mib_8wa7ju | like this |
| 04:54 | usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tool/rebuil_zebra.pl -b -r -v | |
| 04:54 | rangi | try it with -x |
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| 05:13 | mib_jytdee | i have tried with -x but i get the same error |
| 05:13 | Record didn't contain match fields in (bib1,Local-number) | |
| 05:13 | when i reindex the record with Zebradb | |
| 05:14 | and i can't see in the catalogue the records that i have just create | |
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| 05:15 | cait | morning #koha |
| 05:15 | mib_jytdee | good morning |
| 05:16 | anyone have an idea that could fix this issue? | |
| 05:16 | thanks | |
| 05:18 | eythian | it generally means something is iffy with your data. |
| 05:26 | rangi | Or record is too long try with -x |
| 05:26 | cait | hi eythian and rangi :) |
| 05:26 | eythian | hi cait |
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| 06:13 | Amit_Gupta | heya cait |
| 06:13 | cait | hi Amit_Gupta |
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| 06:26 | francharb | good morning |
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| 06:27 | marcelr | hello koha |
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| 06:29 | alex_a | bonjour |
| 06:30 | mveron | bonjour #koha |
| 06:31 | marcelr | hi alex_a, mveron & magnuse |
| 06:32 | magnuse | hiya marcelr & #koha |
| 06:34 | eythian | this one machine-generated file has dates both in the form 28 October 2011 and 28/11/2011. What madness is this? |
| 06:35 | magnuse | library madness? |
| 06:35 | @quote get 123 | |
| 06:35 | huginn | magnuse: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) |
| 06:35 | magnuse | ? |
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| 06:37 | eythian | magnuse: well, library software madness in this case. |
| 06:39 | magnuse | eythian: ah yes, that would do it, i guess ;-) |
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| 06:52 | reiveune | hello |
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| 06:53 | julian_m | hello |
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| 07:01 | sophie_m | heloo #koha |
| 07:01 | hello :-) | |
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| 07:07 | gaetan_B | hello #koha ! |
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| 07:23 | rangi | evening |
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| 07:27 | dheeraj | hi |
| 07:27 | wahanui | hey, dheeraj |
| 07:27 | dheeraj | can you guide how i can be support partner of koha in india |
| 07:28 | how me and my team can become certifited koha professional | |
| 07:28 | asaurat | hi |
| 07:28 | dheeraj | hi |
| 07:29 | magnuse | dheeraj: http://koha-community.org/supp[…]ow-to-get-listed/ |
| 07:29 | dheeraj | need guidence for becoming koha support partner |
| 07:29 | magnuse | dheeraj: there is no such thing as a "certifited koha professional" |
| 07:29 | dheeraj | how we can train on koha |
| 07:30 | magnuse | well, just install it and use, basically... |
| 07:30 | well, just install it and use *it*, basically... | |
| 07:30 | dheeraj | ok, any changes required can we do it our self |
| 07:31 | magnuse | yup, that's the beauty of it :-) |
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| 07:32 | samuel | hello everybody! |
| 07:33 | rangi | hi samuel |
| 07:33 | mveron | hi everybody |
| 07:33 | rangi: I need additional advise on your comment to Bug 7621 | |
| 07:33 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7621 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, veron, Needs Signoff , Circulation: Match age restriction of title with borrower's age without using categories |
| 07:33 | mveron | You say: "It might be better to adapt the frameworks to link the MARC field to a column in biblioitems." |
| 07:34 | But that would be kind of hard wired, no? And the field where the age info is stored would not longer be configurable by sysprefs? | |
| 07:34 | dheeraj | can we customize koha our own |
| 07:35 | rangi | mveron: yep you would have to do it in the frameworks, im fairly sure there is a marc field for it already |
| 07:36 | the problem with doing the extractvalue of the marcxml, means that if we do decide to switch to turbomarc, or using the marccolumn etc .. | |
| 07:36 | then it will break, also, versions of mysql pre 5.1 don't support it | |
| 07:37 | if you didnt want to store the value in biblioitems | |
| 07:38 | then probably the next best thing, would be to get a MARC::Record object and do the comparison on the field that way | |
| 07:39 | i do think the frameworks is the most portable way, because if you add it to the marc21, normarc, and unimarc one | |
| 07:39 | it shouldn't break | |
| 07:39 | renren_1922 | good day sri |
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| 07:40 | mveron | hi kf |
| 07:40 | renren_1922 | can i help me guys where to find the barcode generation on koha? |
| 07:40 | thanks | |
| 07:40 | rangi | you mean printing barcodes? |
| 07:40 | renren_1922 | yes |
| 07:41 | rangi | manual? |
| 07:41 | wahanui | manual is at http://www.koha-community.org/documentation |
| 07:42 | renren_1922 | yes |
| 07:42 | manual barcode generator | |
| 07:42 | rangi | http://manual.koha-community.o[…]labelcreator.html |
| 07:43 | mveron | rangi: Thanks for the explanation. I am not quit sure I understand the framwork thing. Maybe you can give me a pointer (e.g. to code wher I can see how it is done)? |
| 07:45 | rangi | mveron: well if you add a column to biblioitems, then you can map that to any marcsubfield in the frameworks |
| 07:45 | kf | mveron: look at koha-to-marc-mappings on the administration page |
| 07:45 | rangi | then when someone imports, or catalogues, because that column is mapped, it will end up in the biblioitems table |
| 07:45 | mveron | rangi: Thanks, great, (Still learning...) |
| 07:45 | rangi | then its just a simple select biblionumber from biblioitems where agerestriction = ? |
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| 07:46 | rangi | or, in our case |
| 07:46 | if ($data->{'agerestriction'} == 10){ | |
| 07:46 | or something like that :) since in that subroutine we already have all in the biblioitems data in a hashref | |
| 07:47 | and using the mappings, its still configurable, but not via sysprefs, via the mappings instead, which will mean it should work for all flavours of MARC | |
| 07:47 | MARC: The standard that isn't | |
| 07:50 | mveron | rangi: Thanks a lot. |
| 07:51 | rangi | no problem |
| 07:51 | it's a good feature | |
| 07:54 | renren_1922 | sir |
| 07:55 | what is SIP-2 RFID it will install to the Debian koha server or in the client pc that with windows OS? | |
| 08:01 | thanks | |
| 08:01 | guy question.. | |
| 08:02 | where do im going to install the RFID? in the KOHA server or in the client PC? | |
| 08:05 | slef | most of them install on the client I think, but it depends on the RFID pad and I missed the start of this discussion |
| 08:05 | hi all | |
| 08:06 | marcelr | hi slef |
| 08:06 | samuel | hi slef |
| 08:06 | marcelr | slef: is there any page listing the submitted papers for kohacon and hackfest? |
| 08:07 | slef | marcelr: not yet. This week. |
| 08:07 | marcelr: probably before Wednesday's meeting | |
| 08:07 | marcelr | ok |
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| 08:08 | slef | marcelr: why do you want them? |
| 08:08 | marcelr | well could take a look if i could add one myself |
| 08:08 | first know what it there already | |
| 08:09 | slef | marcelr: if in doubt, submit it. Only an abstract is requested. The worst that can happen is it gets rejected in favour of another talk. |
| 08:09 | * slef | swears about $otherProject and people who submit enhancements by just mailing the edited file |
| 08:10 | marcelr | if there is a list on wednesday, i still have time |
| 08:10 | slef | :( |
| 08:10 | kf | marcelr: do you have an idea what you want to talk about? |
| 08:10 | renren_1922 | so the RFID will install on the Client side right? |
| 08:10 | marcelr | hi kf |
| 08:11 | ideas enough, but want to see other subjects first | |
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| 08:39 | sturmtruppen | morning #koha |
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| 09:01 | magnuse | so i'm testing analytic records and child records display links to parent records, but parent records are not displaying links to child records - is that how it's supposed to be? |
| 09:03 | kf | magnuse: ask me again a bit later? |
| 09:03 | I can tell you, but still busdxy | |
| 09:03 | busy | |
| 09:04 | magnuse | kf: you'll regret saying that moahaha ;-) |
| 09:04 | kf | hehe I won't |
| 09:11 | magnuse | anyone know an opac where the "Browse by author or subject" feature is active and working? |
| 09:14 | found one | |
| 09:26 | renren_1922 | - In what pc where Im gonna install the RFID SIP-2? |
| 09:27 | is it on koha server or on client? | |
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| 09:31 | magnuse | wouldn't it be nice to be able to associate templates with report, so you could print them in an format you wanted? |
| 09:32 | s/report/reports/ | |
| 09:32 | s/an/any/ | |
| 09:37 | slef | renren_1922: I don't know which RFID SIP-2 you are trying to install. Probably on client. |
| 09:37 | magnuse: yes | |
| 09:37 | magnuse | slef: yay :-) |
| 09:53 | mveron | rangi: I added (manually) a column agerestriction to biblioitems then mapped it with 'Koha to MARC mapping' to field 521 a |
| 09:53 | If I change 521 a or add new record with something in 521 a the values do not show up in 'select agerestriction from biblioitems' | |
| 09:53 | Which step do I miss? | |
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| 09:57 | shahas | hi |
| 09:57 | mle_ | hi |
| 09:57 | shahas | let me asl one error in my koha 3.6 |
| 09:58 | kf | mveron: I think you have to add some code |
| 09:58 | mveron: to make it happen | |
| 09:58 | take a look at biblio.pm | |
| 09:59 | and there is a recent patch adding a new field you could copy from | |
| 09:59 | shahas | am getting error while saving MARC record,,Software error: Can't call method "fields" on an undefined value at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Biblio.pm line 2245. |
| 09:59 | kf | mveron: bug 7715 |
| 09:59 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7715 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha.sekjal, Needs Signoff , Add biblio.subtitle and appropriate mappings to MARC frameworks |
| 10:00 | mveron | kf: thanks, it's always good to have coding examles! |
| 10:00 | magnuse | kf++ |
| 10:00 | kf | mveron: it's how I work most of the time :) |
| 10:01 | mveron | kf: Steal it from the best :-) |
| 10:03 | kf | and improve it :P |
| 10:07 | shahas | / |
| 10:08 | hh | |
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| 10:24 | skk | we are not able to search records and after rebuild zebra it gives an error as zebraidx(10911) [warn] MARC: Base address does not follow directory 15:50:58-16/04 zebraidx(10911) [warn] MARC: Bad offsets in data. Skipping rest 15:50:58-16/04 zebraidx(10911) [warn] Record didn't contain match fields in (bib1,Local-num |
| 10:24 | can someone help to sort out this error | |
| 10:45 | magnuse | yay for being able to eat lunch outdoors! |
| 10:45 | @wunder boo | |
| 10:45 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 2.0°C (12:20 PM CEST on April 16, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: -5.0°C. Windchill: -3.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady). |
| 10:46 | magnuse | sunshine++ |
| 10:46 | sturmtruppen | what means "@wunder boo" |
| 10:47 | ? | |
| 10:47 | magnuse | @wunder is a way to ask for weather reports |
| 10:47 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Verhotur'E, Russia is 13.0°C (12:00 PM YEKT on April 16, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 37%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Falling). |
| 10:47 | magnuse | pff |
| 10:47 | "boo" is the code for my local airport | |
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| 10:47 | magnuse | @wunder gtw |
| 10:47 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Zlin - Stipa, Czech Republic is 7.3°C (12:33 PM CEST on April 16, 2012). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Windchill: 6.0°C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Steady). |
| 10:48 | drojf | hello #koha |
| 10:48 | magnuse | hiya drojf |
| 10:48 | sturmtruppen | ah, ok. thank you |
| 10:48 | drojf | hi magnuse :) |
| 10:48 | sturmtruppen | ah, ok. thank you |
| 10:48 | now i try... | |
| 10:48 | @wunder mxp | |
| 10:48 | huginn | sturmtruppen: The current temperature in Gallarate (VA), Italy is 12.3°C (12:44 PM CEST on April 16, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Steady). |
| 10:49 | sturmtruppen | cool...best then blackberry travel! |
| 10:49 | magnuse | sturmtruppen: you can also ask it for ordinary place names |
| 10:49 | @wunder wellington, nz | |
| 10:49 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 13.0°C (10:00 PM NZST on April 16, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.36 in 1028 hPa (Rising). |
| 10:50 | sturmtruppen | wow, powerfull. |
| 10:51 | kf | hi drojf |
| 10:51 | sturmtruppen | it's a script of the localserver or OFTC? |
| 10:51 | drojf | hi kf :) |
| 10:51 | shahas | hhhhi |
| 10:51 | am getting error while saving MARC record,,Software error: Can't call method "fields" on an undefined value at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Biblio.pm line 2245. | |
| 10:52 | magnuse | sturmtruppen: huginn is a bot that someone is running somehwere |
| 10:52 | sturmtruppen | nice bot anyway. |
| 10:53 | magnuse | yup :-) |
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| 11:10 | skk | we are getting an error while reindexing zebra and are not able to search any records. can some one help to sort out the error. MARC: Base address does not follow directory 16/04 zebraidx(11101) [warn] MARC: Bad offsets in data. Skipping rest 16:13:38-16/04 zebraidx(11101) [warn] Record didn't contain match fields in (bib1,Local-number) |
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| 11:26 | shahas | \\\ |
| 11:32 | skk | we are getting an error while reindexing zebra and are not able to search any records. can some one help to sort out the error. MARC: Base address does not follow directory 16/04 zebraidx(11101) [warn] MARC: Bad offsets in data. Skipping rest 16:13:38-16/04 zebraidx(11101) [warn] Record didn't contain match fields in (bib1,Local-number) |
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| 11:32 | kf | skk: sounds like you have one record with missing data |
| 11:32 | skk | hw to find out this |
| 11:32 | kf | did you change frameworks and maybe deleted one of the 9xx fields by accident? |
| 11:33 | they are necessary for koha to work corectly | |
| 11:33 | skk | no idea nw if it would have gt deleted |
| 11:34 | is there any way to find out that | |
| 11:34 | kf | I am not sure how to find the record now - you could try to find some sql to check for existence of 999 in all marc records perhaps |
| 11:34 | kayser | Hello, can i get a little bit of support here? problem with the 040 c field. |
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| 11:36 | kf | kayser: what is your problem? |
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| 11:41 | skk | what is the sql query to check for existence of 999 in all marc records so that i can find a record which creates problem while reindexing |
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| 11:42 | Oak | kia ora #koha |
| 11:42 | kayser | kf, trying to save record but i have to fill in 040 c field but i have read that it should be the same as 040 a. Do i remove the mandetory value? how imortant is it? almost only childrens book in the library |
| 11:50 | shahas | \\\\am getting error while saving MARC record,,Software error: Can't call method "fields" on an undefined value at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Biblio.pm line 2245. |
| 11:53 | drojf | kayser: that's not really a koha question i guess, just a matter of your local conventions. if you do not plan to share your records with others you can basically do it how you think it works best for you. i doubt koha does rely on that value. if you don't need it, you could change the marc framework to non-mandatory for that field and see if that works for you |
| 11:55 | jcamins_away | kayser: you could marc 040$c not mandatory, but if you do that you won't be able to share your records. I generally recommend that people just register for an organization code, since it's free. |
| 11:55 | *make marc 040$c | |
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| 12:00 | kayser | I figuered out that the value should be the same on all books so i can edit that later in case. Only a small childrens school and the only need a working library Thanks for the support! |
| 12:04 | kf | kayser: sorry. I think you could also add a default value if you have a code- so it would get filled out automatically |
| 12:06 | jcamins_away | ^^ I do that. |
| 12:09 | kayser | kf, found the default value opition under adcanced constrants |
| 12:09 | kf | and hi jcamins_away :) |
| 12:13 | Amit_Gupta | heya kf |
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| 12:27 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
| 12:28 | kf | h oleonard |
| 12:28 | wahanui | oleonard is still here, if you just wish hard enough. or Koha's master UI designer |
| 12:28 | kf | aw :) |
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| 12:36 | druthb | o/ |
| 12:41 | oleonard | Hi druthb |
| 12:42 | druthb | :) Hi, oleonard! |
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| 13:18 | drojf | kohacon question: are there hotels in edinburgh already known to be populated by koha people? |
| 13:29 | slef | drojf: I only know of one so far but I have not really been asking |
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| 13:30 | slef | Ceilidh-donia |
| 13:30 | drojf | slef: i have seen one but that was already booked out last week |
| 13:31 | slef: thanks, i'll have a look | |
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| 13:35 | shahas | hii |
| 13:36 | how to load record from reservoir to catalog | |
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| 13:44 | slef | shahas: Tools: Manage staged MARC records; or Cataloguing: Add MARC Record: Z39.50 Search, depending how the record got into reservoir |
| 13:45 | shahas | it is imported to reservoir |
| 13:46 | i tried z39.50 search ,,,but am getting nothing found,,,, | |
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| 13:55 | vinod | needed help |
| 13:56 | my marc data contain only call number of one book/item whereas one record contain several items/book how can i give call number to each | |
| 13:57 | during importing in koha it accepts for only one item rest does not shows call number allthough i have also given call number to 082 fiels | |
| 13:58 | slef | vinod: so you have repeated 082 fields, one for each book? |
| 13:59 | vinod | no in 952 field there is only one call number against one item and separately there are 082 fiels |
| 14:00 | slef | do you have one 952 for each item? |
| 14:00 | vinod | yes |
| 14:00 | slef | does each 952 field have a call number in 952$o? |
| 14:00 | vinod | no this is the problem |
| 14:01 | slef | I think you need to put them into 952$o before you import them. |
| 14:01 | vinod | how can i bring it in each item or any other way |
| 14:01 | slef | Use whatever you used it edit MARC files to do it. |
| 14:01 | vinod | how can i for approx 15 thousan record |
| 14:02 | slef | I use xsltproc to process the marcxml. Other people use marcedit or the koha-migration.git. |
| 14:02 | vinod | i have tried with marc editor but no options to do that i have tried a lot |
| 14:02 | suggest me any other method | |
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| 14:10 | vinod | hello |
| 14:10 | wahanui | hey, vinod |
| 14:10 | vinod | yes please |
| 14:10 | please help regarding marc conversion problem | |
| 14:12 | jwagner | wahanui is a bot, not a real person. Try looking at this link, and also the "Map your bibliographic data" link in it: http://manual.koha-community.o[…]tml#imp-migration |
| 14:24 | slef | wahanui: are you real? |
| 14:24 | wahanui | i haven't a clue, slef |
| 14:25 | slef | wahanui: are you real? |
| 14:25 | wahanui | wish i knew, slef |
| 14:26 | slef | wahanui: real? |
| 14:26 | wahanui | I became sentient a couple of weeks ago |
| 14:26 | slef | I knew that was in there somewhere |
| 14:26 | wizzyrea | lolol |
| 14:33 | pastebot | "chris_n" at 63.162.197.228 pasted "Another set of eyeballs... please" (12 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/346 |
| 14:34 | chris_n | ^^ |
| 14:34 | * chris_n | digs out the fudge as bait |
| 14:34 | wizzyrea | what's the code generating that |
| 14:35 | chris_n | could it be the quotes around the table name? |
| 14:35 | mysql> UPDATE quotes SET 'source' = 'Abraham Lincoln' WHERE id ='3'; | |
| 14:35 | ERROR 1064 (42000): You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near ''source' = 'Abraham Lincoln' WHERE id ='3'' at line 1 | |
| 14:35 | mysql> | |
| 14:35 | wizzyrea | looks like you have extra ' s |
| 14:35 | chris_n | om |
| 14:35 | sekjal | ^^ |
| 14:35 | jcamins | Yeah, there shouldn't be any quotes around source. |
| 14:36 | pastebot | "chris_n" at 63.162.197.228 pasted "code for above SQL" (6 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/347 |
| 14:36 | chris_n | seems DBI is doing it |
| 14:37 | hmm... I probably should not parameterize the table name | |
| 14:37 | wizzyrea | YES, that's what I was thinking but I don't know enough about dbi to know if that was the proper syntax |
| 14:37 | * wizzyrea | goes balls out with ignorance this morning |
| 14:37 | chris_n | boy do I need coffee |
| 14:37 | that's nto the table name | |
| 14:38 | shessh | |
| 14:38 | what day is it? | |
| 14:38 | wizzyrea | um. friday? |
| 14:38 | wahanui | friday is It's Friday, Friday Gotta get down on Friday |
| 14:38 | chris_n | monday? |
| 14:38 | wahanui | i heard monday was better |
| 14:38 | wizzyrea | i have spoken it, it must be true. |
| 14:38 | * chris_n | goes off to find out how to keep dbi from quoting the field name |
| 14:39 | magnuse | quotes around the value for id - probably a number, not a string? |
| 14:39 | wizzyrea | works with the quotes on the command line tho |
| 14:39 | magnuse | yeah... |
| 14:39 | wizzyrea | i think it has to do with the ' around the column name |
| 14:40 | sekjal | today is a MA state holiday... my office is empty save for me |
| 14:40 | wizzyrea | omg. quick, get sekjal the qa queue ;) |
| 14:40 | sekjal | :) already working on it |
| 14:40 | * wizzyrea | dreams of empty offices |
| 14:41 | sekjal | it's going to get up to 91 F today... and that's outside, where the building heat ISN'T STILL ON! |
| 14:41 | even if it weren't a holiday, folks would still be buggin' out of here | |
| 14:42 | wizzyrea | oh mah lerd. |
| 14:43 | 91! that's pretty hot. | |
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| 14:43 | wizzyrea | a pretty close to perfect 66 is expected here today |
| 14:43 | magnuse | especially if we are talking celcius... |
| 14:44 | wizzyrea | what's that uh.. 18? |
| 14:44 | 19 I guess | |
| 14:45 | * wizzyrea | curses the NWS for not having a C view. |
| 14:45 | magnuse | 91 degrees Fahrenheit = 32.7777778 degrees Celsius |
| 14:45 | according to teh googles | |
| 14:45 | kf | @wunder Konstanz |
| 14:45 | huginn | kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 7.4°C (4:44 PM CEST on April 16, 2012). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Windchill: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Rising). |
| 14:46 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
| 14:46 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 4.0°C (4:20 PM CEST on April 16, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: -6.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Falling). |
| 14:46 | magnuse | um, yay! |
| 14:46 | * wizzyrea | gets lost somewhere in the teens on celsius. |
| 14:46 | wizzyrea | 20's-30's I have a feel for |
| 14:46 | near zeros I have a feel for. | |
| 14:46 | magnuse | but i have more sunlight than any of y'all :-) |
| 14:47 | 66 degrees Fahrenheit = 18.8888889 degrees Celsius | |
| 14:47 | wizzyrea | @wunder 66049 |
| 14:47 | huginn | wizzyrea: The current temperature in Lawrence Live-Courtesy of the Khoury's, Lawrence, Kansas is 12.7°C (9:46 AM CDT on April 16, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Rising). |
| 14:47 | wizzyrea | mhm, sorta kinda chilly out there. but not really. |
| 14:47 | chris_n | moral of the story.... don't use placeholders for anything other than values |
| 14:47 | so says the oracle at #dbi | |
| 14:47 | wizzyrea | i was uh, wondering why you were doing that. :P |
| 14:47 | but again, didn't feel competent to point it out | |
| 14:48 | jcamins | Whoah... Primo has gone waaaaaay over-the-top nextgen-y. |
| 14:48 | kf | ? |
| 14:48 | jcamins | http://explore.bl.uk/ |
| 14:49 | Search for, well, anything. | |
| 14:49 | Try to view a record. | |
| 14:49 | Get confused. | |
| 14:49 | chris_n | wizzyrea: pleased don't hesitate next time :-) |
| 14:49 | jcamins | Get angry. |
| 14:49 | Figure it out eventually. | |
| 14:49 | ;) | |
| 14:49 | wizzyrea | man, I don't even know where to look at that page. all that text might as well be invisible. |
| 14:50 | kf | hm |
| 14:50 | bit minimalistic result list | |
| 14:50 | wizzyrea | whao |
| 14:50 | kf | omg |
| 14:50 | wizzyrea | I like their faceting tho |
| 14:50 | jcamins | lol |
| 14:50 | kf | what is this when I want to look at a record? |
| 14:50 | wizzyrea | uh. |
| 14:51 | whut. | |
| 14:51 | kf | and broken umlauts |
| 14:51 | jcamins | Was I right or was I right? |
| 14:51 | kf | you were |
| 14:51 | wizzyrea | why the request is the default view?! |
| 14:51 | kf | totally wrong default view |
| 14:51 | wizzyrea | you were totally right |
| 14:51 | HOWEVER. I do like what they did there. | |
| 14:51 | jcamins | Me too. |
| 14:51 | wizzyrea | besides that. |
| 14:51 | * chris_n | notes that there is a quote_identifier method in dbi which allows for properly quoting identifiers |
| 14:51 | chris_n | just ftr |
| 14:51 | wizzyrea | ooo |
| 14:52 | jcamins | However, it's a little bit difficult to figure out at first glance. |
| 14:52 | wizzyrea | well yes, though I think |
| 14:52 | if you put the proper default view on the click title | |
| 14:52 | it would be a LOT better. | |
| 14:52 | better even than what we do now. | |
| 14:53 | jcamins | Agreed. |
| 14:53 | wizzyrea | in fact, it's got all of the same elements on that compact view that we've got on our detail |
| 14:53 | links, a place for twitter | |
| 14:53 | kf | hm not all |
| 14:53 | jcamins | Except for item information. |
| 14:54 | kf | it has the shelfmarks |
| 14:54 | wizzyrea | right, but you could do another tab for item info |
| 14:54 | kf | and no covers |
| 14:54 | we do a lot on details | |
| 14:54 | wizzyrea | mine has covers |
| 14:54 | search for science | |
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| 14:54 | jcamins | kf: the covers are in the results directly. |
| 14:54 | chris_n | cool |
| 14:54 | jcamins | search for something |
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| 14:54 | wizzyrea | right |
| 14:54 | jcamins | search |
| 14:54 | kf | jcamins: oh, not in my search :) |
| 14:54 | * kf | searched for bodensee |
| 14:54 | jcamins | search for |
| 14:54 | search something | |
| 14:54 | wizzyrea | science worked well |
| 14:54 | chris_n | jeditable is working in conjunction w/datatables in koha now |
| 14:55 | kf | I think the I want this needs work |
| 14:55 | jcamins | Apparently wahanui only dies with "search for X" |
| 14:55 | search for X | |
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| 14:55 | wizzyrea | lol. |
| 14:55 | poor guy. | |
| 14:55 | jcamins | change to x and search for y |
| 14:55 | wahanui | jcamins: that doesn't look right |
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| 14:55 | * chris_n | hands wahanui a cookie |
| 14:55 | wizzyrea | the covers view could be better |
| 14:55 | i agree | |
| 14:55 | chris_n | wahanui: botsnack cookie |
| 14:55 | wahanui | thanks chris_n :) |
| 14:56 | chris_n | "When the President does it, that means that it is not illegal." <--- which us president said this? |
| 14:57 | * chris_n | finds working one the qod editor fun :-) |
| 14:57 | asaurat1 | Nixon ? :D |
| 14:57 | wizzyrea | nixon or dubya |
| 14:57 | * mle_ | nominates chris_n for kohacon12 trivia nite |
| 14:57 | * wizzyrea | giggles |
| 14:57 | chris_n | Nixon |
| 14:57 | hehe | |
| 14:58 | asaurat1 | yeaah cookie |
| 14:58 | chris_n | Ford followed up with "Our Long national nightmare is over." |
| 14:58 | lol | |
| 14:58 | ok, back to work | |
| 14:59 | kf | qa team at work :) |
| 14:59 | marcelr++ sekjal++ | |
| 14:59 | chris_n | wizzyrea: we are closer to your editable items table wish |
| 14:59 | wizzyrea | that would be so. awesome. |
| 15:00 | oleonard | Interesting analog to the Cart, "My workspace" |
| 15:00 | magnuse | jeditable looks cool |
| 15:00 | jcamins | sekjal: DOM indexing is ready for QA. |
| 15:00 | chris_n | magnuse: it is cool... very cool |
| 15:00 | * magnuse | read it as jedi-table, of course... |
| 15:00 | * wizzyrea | waves at oleonard |
| 15:00 | wizzyrea | magnuse: I do too! |
| 15:00 | use the force, librarians! | |
| 15:00 | magnuse | may the source be with you! |
| 15:01 | wizzyrea | ROFL |
| 15:01 | kf | :) |
| 15:01 | I was highly disappointed wwf allowed for sith but not for jedi | |
| 15:01 | (scrabble) | |
| 15:01 | * chris_n | will submit his qod feature soon which will add jeditable and illustrate its use |
| 15:01 | wizzyrea | ooo yea, wth. is Jedi a proper noun? and if so, why is Sith not? |
| 15:02 | chris_n | talk about a marc editor improvement |
| 15:02 | wizzyrea | oh boy oh boy. |
| 15:02 | jcamins | chris_n: yes, that's what I want. |
| 15:02 | wizzyrea | chris_n++ |
| 15:02 | kf | wizzyrea: I suspect wwf is on the dark side.. |
| 15:02 | wizzyrea | hehe yes |
| 15:03 | magnuse | kf: sounds like ut |
| 15:03 | s/ut/it/ | |
| 15:03 | wizzyrea | i'm still on about that opac. I really like it. |
| 15:04 | jcamins | wizzyrea: me too. The only thing I objected to was the "I want this" tab. |
| 15:04 | However, that was a pretty major objection. | |
| 15:05 | magnuse | ooh http://blogs.perl.org/users/cl[…]kholm-sweden.html |
| 15:05 | kf | hm when I delete something from borrowers... will the patron attributes and messaging prefs go with it? |
| 15:07 | jcamins | It seems to me we could AJAX in a description, at least, pretty easily. |
| 15:07 | (add an XSLT thingy) | |
| 15:07 | magnuse | kf: something? |
| 15:07 | jcamins | kf: check kohastructure, but I'm pretty sure there's an ON DELETE CASCADE. |
| 15:13 | So I guess a rendered XSLT detail view is probably about 1.5kb. | |
| 15:14 | * jcamins | is imagining a mouseover preview. |
| 15:14 | wizzyrea | ew no |
| 15:14 | lol | |
| 15:15 | too many links on a result page to have a hover preview, imo. | |
| 15:15 | jcamins | Hm. |
| 15:15 | wizzyrea | but that might be just me |
| 15:15 | perhaps what you are imagining is perfect and would be happy and stuff. | |
| 15:15 | jcamins | Hehe. |
| 15:16 | There aren't many links on the results page... | |
| 15:17 | What I want is a way to offer a preview without losing the link to the details page. | |
| 15:17 | magnuse | yeah, that is super important |
| 15:17 | https://ask.bibsys.no/ask2/html/ | |
| 15:18 | ^ no links to detail views | |
| 15:18 | jcamins | magnuse: not to mention, 100% flash? |
| 15:18 | Or something painful. | |
| 15:19 | magnuse | not flash, i think, but a ton of js |
| 15:19 | jcamins | Yeah, that's what I don't want. |
| 15:19 | I want something tasteful. | |
| 15:19 | magnuse | yay! |
| 15:20 | jcamins | Maybe a subtle "Preview" link at the end of the results. |
| 15:20 | I guess it depends how much control there is over mouseover delays. | |
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| 15:25 | slef | wahanui: what happened to you, falling offline? |
| 15:25 | wahanui | bugger all, i dunno, slef |
| 15:26 | slef | wahanui: oh well never mind. Have a botsnack. |
| 15:26 | wahanui | :) |
| 15:26 | slef | :)? |
| 15:26 | wahanui | hmmm... :) is ok |
| 15:29 | sekjal | jcamins: while DOM indexing does seem to be pretty low-impact on the existing codebase, it's not my current priority. I'm aiming for getting as many bugs and regressions resolved as possible before 3.8 |
| 15:30 | jcamins | sekjal: sure, just thought I'd point it out. |
| 15:30 | sekjal | I appreciate it, and I look forward to using it |
| 15:30 | just a time management issue on my end | |
| 15:30 | * jcamins | will be using 3.6 for a while regardless. ;) |
| 15:35 | jcamins | kf: Schmutztitel = half title, like the page that comes before the title-page in a book? |
| 15:36 | Quick! Everyone say mean things about logbot! | |
| 15:37 | oleonard | Like shouting something at a party just when the music is turned off, whatever you say will end up appearing right after logbot gets back |
| 15:37 | jcamins | lol |
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| 15:53 | sekjal | lunch time! |
| 15:53 | talljoy | nom nom |
| 15:58 | wizzyrea | do we log things like "purchase suggestion deletion" in the actionlogs? |
| 15:59 | jcamins | wizzyrea: I don't think so. |
| 15:59 | wizzyrea | bother. |
| 16:02 | is there a new-ish cron to delete rejected suggestions? | |
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| 16:08 | wizzyrea | nm, purge suggestions, I found it :) |
| 16:12 | * oleonard | condemns wizzyrea's Stalin-like rule of innocent rejected suggestions |
| 16:12 | wizzyrea | hey, actually I'm trying to *prevent* the genocide of poor innocent rejected suggestions. |
| 16:13 | talljoy | NO soup for you. |
| 16:13 | jcamins | wizzyrea: yeah, sure, that's what they all say. |
| 16:13 | * wizzyrea | is trying to *save* them! We've lost too many already! |
| 16:14 | * oleonard | honors wizzyrea as the Oscar Schindler of rejected suggestions |
| 16:14 | talljoy | out of curiosity, why do you want to keep rejected suggestions? |
| 16:14 | wasn't one rejection enough for the poor things? | |
| 16:16 | wizzyrea | the answer to the first question is that I have a situation where I can't tell when a suggestion was processed by a library, no one there has any recollection of rejecting the suggestion, but it apparently got purged by the cronjob on the same day it was rejected. |
| 16:16 | i'm honestly not sure what the problem is i'm trying to solve here. | |
| 16:16 | more sleuthing. | |
| 16:17 | * talljoy | is confused....thought wizzyrea was a mindreader... |
| 16:18 | oleonard | wizzyrea is a mentalist |
| 16:18 | talljoy | lol |
| 16:28 | wizzyrea | oh my |
| 16:29 | * kf | thinks wizzyrea needs cookies |
| 16:29 | wizzyrea | hehe, I love coincidences of timing. |
| 16:29 | jcamins | Speaking of cookies, did I tell everyone my experience baking brownies the other day? |
| 16:29 | wizzyrea | so I think what happened was that an old suggestion was rejected, then 2 days later was purged. thusly, we can't find it and there's no record of what happened. |
| 16:30 | jcamins | I learned that substituting agave syrup for granulated sugar makes the brownies *drier*. |
| 16:30 | wizzyrea: is it important enough to go back to an old backup? | |
| 16:31 | wizzyrea | nope. I think knowing *how* it disappeared is going to be good enough. |
| 16:40 | talljoy | jcamins- really? i wouldn't have thought so. |
| 16:40 | jcamins | talljoy: yeah, I was shocked. |
| 16:41 | wizzyrea | hm |
| 16:41 | talljoy | something about the chemistry, I reckon. |
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| 16:41 | jcamins | Yeah. |
| 16:41 | * wizzyrea | wonders about the hydroscopic variance of agave syrup vs cane sugar |
| 16:41 | talljoy | i guess you could compensate with some fruit puree like, prune or applesauce. |
| 16:41 | wizzyrea | or chiles. |
| 16:41 | talljoy | prunes hide well in chocolate. |
| 16:41 | ooh...chiles. | |
| 16:41 | nom nom | |
| 16:42 | wizzyrea | brownies + chiles = omgzors. |
| 16:42 | jcamins | brownies + chiles = Shari never forgiving me :P |
| 16:42 | wizzyrea | it's not spicy :) |
| 16:42 | talljoy | wizzyrea: i had the same thought. about sugar. It is known to draw moisture to it. so i suppose it would do the same in brownies. |
| 16:42 | chocolate and chiles = heaven | |
| 16:43 | wizzyrea | i would guess that the syrup, being liquid, wouldn't have much moisture to draw to it. |
| 16:43 | or wouldn't be able to draw much more. | |
| 16:43 | * wizzyrea | is the daughter of a chemist |
| 16:43 | talljoy | right and the chemical structure is prolly different. |
| 16:43 | * talljoy | is too |
| 16:43 | wizzyrea | o/* HIGHFIVE *\o |
| 16:43 | talljoy | LOL |
| 16:44 | jcamins | lol |
| 16:45 | * jcamins | is not. |
| 16:45 | jcamins | Neither a daughter nor offspring of a chemist. :P |
| 16:45 | * magnus_afk | neither |
| 16:45 | magnus_afk | o/* HIGHFIVE *\o |
| 16:45 | jcamins | LOL |
| 16:45 | * kf | neither |
| 16:45 | jcamins | :) |
| 16:45 | kf | toolate now? |
| 16:45 | magnus_afk | o/* HIGHFIVE *\o |
| 16:46 | kf | :) |
| 16:47 | jcamins | The dryness may also have had something to do with the oven. I will determine this when I have sugar again. |
| 16:47 | Or the fact that I used 100% whole wheat flour. | |
| 16:47 | wizzyrea | hm yea lots going on there. |
| 16:48 | jcamins | I'm pretty sure it's not that last, though, because I think I did that last time, too. |
| 16:49 | kf | in brownies? very sneaky. |
| 16:49 | jcamins | :) |
| 16:49 | Chapati_flour++ | |
| 16:51 | gaetan_B | bye! |
| 16:51 | jcamins | Maybe I should stop by Costco on the way home and buy some flour. |
| 16:52 | Sugar, rather. | |
| 16:52 | Though the situation wrt flour is pretty dire, too. | |
| 16:52 | Also, chocolate chips. And walnuts. And yeast. | |
| 16:53 | * jcamins | runs around waving his arms in the air because surely the end of the world is nigh! |
| 17:02 | jcamins | Blacklight has built-in browsing. |
| 17:05 | (that seems to work) | |
| 17:05 | oleonard | Today's conversations are really random and confusing. |
| 17:06 | jcamins | oleonard: how is this different from any other Monday? |
| 17:06 | oleonard: for that matter, how is this different from any conversation in which I am involved? | |
| 17:06 | oleonard | Mondays are usually less random I think |
| 17:06 | * oleonard | is in Drupal mode today, so less attentive |
| 17:07 | magnus_afk | oleonard: wanna upgrade an installation for me? ;-) |
| 17:07 | oleonard | Does *anyone* want to upgrade Drupal, ever? :P |
| 17:07 | My problem at the moment is planning a D6->D7 upgrade | |
| 17:08 | magnus_afk | ouch, i try not to think about that |
| 17:08 | oleonard | My incentive is getting to switch to Omega+Delta+Context to get a responsive theme |
| 17:09 | My disincentive is the long list of things that don't get upgraded properly | |
| 17:10 | magnus_afk | gah |
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| 17:22 | magnus_afk | normarc, how do I hate thee? let me count the ways... |
| 17:28 | kf | lol |
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| 17:41 | * magnus_afk | takes the dogs for a walk |
| 17:49 | oleonard | man, my history of Drupal tweets is one long bitch session |
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| 18:02 | cait | back |
| 18:03 | chris_n | oleonard: if I do "var row = tbody.insertRow(lastRow);" how do I reference row and its elements? ie. $(row td).foo |
| 18:03 | ? | |
| 18:03 | only that example does not work | |
| 18:04 | hi cait | |
| 18:04 | cait | hi chris_n |
| 18:04 | oleonard | chris_n: I don't know the answer to that |
| 18:04 | * chris_n | is probably trying to do the impossible |
| 18:05 | oleonard | Seems like it should be possible |
| 18:07 | jcamins | chris_n: row.find(something)? |
| 18:07 | row.search? | |
| 18:07 | row.child? | |
| 18:07 | chris_n | yes |
| 18:07 | jcamins | Something like that. |
| 18:07 | chris_n | I just discovered that |
| 18:07 | what about | |
| 18:07 | referencing elements of row | |
| 18:07 | like | |
| 18:08 | $(#div tbody td) | |
| 18:08 | only | |
| 18:08 | row td | |
| 18:08 | or some such | |
| 18:08 | where row is a ref var | |
| 18:09 | jcamins | chris_n: that's what I think you use row.search or row.child for. |
| 18:09 | .children() | |
| 18:10 | row.children('td') | |
| 18:10 | Maybe. | |
| 18:10 | * chris_n | takes a deep breath and heads back to the deep end :-) |
| 18:11 | chris_n | your latter syntax is what I suspect |
| 18:15 | interesting.. I would have expected this to have matched all td children who's id is not no_edit: row.children('td[id!="no_edit"]' | |
| 18:15 | ) | |
| 18:25 | jcamins | I would like to have a configurable browser, so that I could have a "results browser," and also a tab for a "call number browser." |
| 18:28 | I think this would be nice. | |
| 18:28 | If I could easily switch it to be a title browser, that'd be cool, too. | |
| 18:28 | chris_n | I knew I was going at it the hard way |
| 18:29 | jcamins | chris_n: did you find the easy way? |
| 18:29 | chris_n | essentially thusly |
| 18:29 | $('#quotes_editor tbody tr:last td').foo | |
| 18:29 | whew... I hate wasting an hour on syntax :P | |
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| 18:32 | jcamins | chris_n: we hate you doing that, too... you could've spent that hour redoing the cataloging interface. :P |
| 18:32 | chris_n | lol |
| 18:32 | oleonard | Quotes editor? |
| 18:33 | chris_n | yup |
| 18:33 | oleonard | What is it? |
| 18:33 | wahanui | or automatically added |
| 18:34 | chris_n | editing and deleting works; I'm now working up adding |
| 18:34 | for a feature I half added locally several years ago called quote-of-the-day | |
| 18:34 | when enabled, it shows a random quote on the opac home page | |
| 18:34 | which quote changes daily | |
| 18:35 | I have to port it forward for our upgrade to 3.8, so I thought I'd finish it up and submit it for 3.10 at the same time | |
| 18:37 | sekjal | jcamins: I'm thinking of throwing some time at the browser sometime soonish. I'd work on making it input list independent, so the code could be recycled in all kinds of ways |
| 18:38 | jcamins | That'd be very nice. |
| 18:39 | What language is Evergreen written in? | |
| 18:39 | oleonard | Uruk-hai |
| 18:39 | jcamins | lol |
| 18:39 | cait | lol |
| 18:39 | sekjal | jcamins: perl, I believe |
| 18:39 | cait | that's what I think too |
| 18:40 | sekjal | we share SIP code |
| 18:40 | cait | sekjal: thx for qa |
| 18:40 | sekjal++ | |
| 18:42 | jcamins | Does Evergreen exclusively use solr as its search engine? |
| 18:42 | gmcharlt | jcamins: Evergreen doesn't use Solr at all |
| 18:42 | jcamins | gmcharlt: hooray! You're here! |
| 18:42 | gmcharlt | it's search is based on Postgres' tsearch2 module |
| 18:42 | jcamins | gmcharlt: but you use QueryParser? |
| 18:43 | Where you=Evergreen | |
| 18:43 | gmcharlt | well, _a_ QueryParser module, but one that was written bespoke, not taken from CPAN |
| 18:43 | * gmcharlt | personally uses Human Language Processing v1.0 ;) |
| 18:45 | jcamins | gmcharlt: ah. Has said QueryParser been released onto CPAN? |
| 18:45 | Or is it integrally tied to Evergreen? | |
| 18:46 | * jcamins | still maintains that the appropriate course of action for search engine independence is to have some sort of query parser. |
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| 18:49 | gmcharlt | jcamins: it would require a bit of surgery, but the query parser itself could be ripped out and made standalone |
| 18:50 | jcamins | Hm. And I presume the parser uses some sort of data structure that makes queries non-ambiguous? |
| 18:51 | gmcharlt | it produces a parse tree |
| 18:53 | jcamins | gmcharlt: sorry, I know that was a bit of a basic question, but having looked at C4::Search, I now appreciate the awesome power of quote 123. |
| 18:54 | ;) | |
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| 19:01 | libsysguy1 | so i upgraded to master this morning and just noticed there was an error in basket.js |
| 19:01 | does anybody else see it? | |
| 19:01 | oleonard | On the results page libsysguy1? |
| 19:01 | libsysguy1 | yes |
| 19:01 | jcamins | Wasn't there a bug about that over the weekend? |
| 19:01 | oleonard | A patch for that just passed qa |
| 19:02 | (thanks sekjal) | |
| 19:02 | * libsysguy | must've missed it |
| 19:02 | sekjal | gladly, oleonard |
| 19:02 | any other broken things in current master that have patches pending? | |
| 19:02 | libsysguy | my poor catalog https://catalog.uttyler.edu/cg[…]earch.pl?q=lasers |
| 19:02 | lol | |
| 19:03 | jcamins | libsysguy: you're running Master in production! What do you expect? :P |
| 19:03 | libsysguy | i know |
| 19:03 | thats why im not b*thc*ng | |
| 19:04 | just making sure i didn't mess it up :p | |
| 19:05 | jcamins | Wait... chocolate avocado muffins? |
| 19:06 | Wow. | |
| 19:06 | oleonard | That doesn't belong in a search result for lasers |
| 19:06 | cait | libsysguy: you probably don't want to know htat... but your layout iw broken for me |
| 19:06 | the facets and result list are overlapping, while there is lots of white space on the right side | |
| 19:06 | jcamins | oleonard: No, but it does belong on my table for breakfast. |
| 19:06 | Wow. Broken for me, too. | |
| 19:06 | Very broken. | |
| 19:07 | oleonard | Isn't that why he said "my poor catalog?" |
| 19:07 | drojf | lol |
| 19:07 | * cait | sends cookies to libsysguy's catalog |
| 19:07 | drojf | wasn't that the point? |
| 19:07 | cait | I thought he only had the bug for the cart display |
| 19:07 | jcamins | oleonard: yes, I suppose it is. |
| 19:07 | I didn't actually follow the link until well after I'd stopped thinking about it. | |
| 19:08 | * cait | had a long day |
| 19:08 | jcamins | I was focusing on avocado chocolate muffins. |
| 19:08 | cait | totally understandable |
| 19:10 | libsysguy | cait that is what it looks like for me too |
| 19:11 | i completely changed the page with js | |
| 19:11 | so one js error and the whole page kind of implodes | |
| 19:11 | jcamins | Speaking of which, did my fix for the browser get in? |
| 19:11 | oleonard | libsysguy: Bug 7962 |
| 19:11 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7962 major, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Passed QA , Cart missing from result lists |
| 19:12 | oleonard | libsysguy: it's a simple fix |
| 19:12 | libsysguy | ill apply it then deal with the rebase when it gets into master |
| 19:12 | im amazed that it has been like this for 4 hours and I haven't gotten one call | |
| 19:13 | cait: see http://catalog.uttyler.edu/cgi[…]earch.pl?q=lasers | |
| 19:13 | thats what it is supposed to look like | |
| 19:13 | jcamins | Bug 7554 |
| 19:13 | cait | better :) |
| 19:13 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7554 normal, P3, ---, jcamins, RESOLVED FIXED, Newlines break search paging |
| 19:13 | libsysguy | thanks for the patch oleonard |
| 19:13 | jcamins | Yes it is, excellent. :) |
| 19:13 | cait | but what happens if someone has javascript deactivated? :) |
| 19:14 | chris_n | avocado chocolate muffins... ? |
| 19:14 | libsysguy | cait then they are going to have a bad time |
| 19:14 | chris_n | it must be monday |
| 19:14 | libsysguy | :p |
| 19:14 | jcamins | Yeah, that's pretty bad. |
| 19:14 | Wow. | |
| 19:14 | That's even worse than with broken Javascript. | |
| 19:14 | libsysguy | did you turn off js jcamins? |
| 19:15 | jcamins | Yup. |
| 19:15 | libsysguy | or do you mean my layout :p |
| 19:15 | jcamins | I wanted to know what would happen. |
| 19:15 | libsysguy | I don't really want to look |
| 19:15 | * libsysguy | doesn't want the librarians to know either |
| 19:15 | libsysguy | so jcamins :x |
| 19:15 | :p | |
| 19:15 | jcamins | No, the layout's pretty nice. |
| 19:16 | libsysguy | i will admit it doesn't degrade nicely |
| 19:16 | but without changing the prog theme or copyign it there was really no way go about it | |
| 19:16 | jcamins | libsysguy: at least use CSS to shift the search results over too? |
| 19:16 | I need to test that on my theme. | |
| 19:17 | libsysguy | i think there was some fight I was having with IE trying to do that |
| 19:17 | and I just gave up and used js | |
| 19:17 | jcamins | Woohoo! Only one problem! |
| 19:18 | cait | bug 3413 is a nice evil bug fixed by me |
| 19:18 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3413 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Needs Signoff , repeatable tickbox not sticking 1st time round |
| 19:18 | cait | who wants to sign off? :) |
| 19:18 | jcamins | Okay, two. |
| 19:18 | cait | or 7929 - xhmtl validity |
| 19:18 | * jcamins | touches his nose to indicate that he's working on other things. |
| 19:18 | cait | bug 7929 |
| 19:18 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7929 minor, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Needs Signoff , Duplicate id "availability" on XSLT result page |
| 19:19 | libsysguy | cait++ |
| 19:19 | cait | or... oh yesbug 7922 - I know you all always wanted to improve your german :) |
| 19:19 | bug 7922 | |
| 19:19 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7922 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Needs Signoff , Fixing typos and improving translations in German sample data |
| 19:23 | cait | sekjal: perhaps you could consider taking a look at 7933? it only changes a typo in fehlerkorrektur |
| 19:24 | in the sample news | |
| 19:27 | wizzyrea | limesurvey_community-- koha_community++ it's impossible to get an answer to a question from their IRC channel. |
| 19:27 | sekjal | cait: ok |
| 19:28 | drojf | cait: would i have to install it even if its just this? |
| 19:31 | sekjal | cait: bug 7933? |
| 19:31 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7933 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Fields in marc display not the same |
| 19:31 | rangi | Morning |
| 19:32 | cait | morning :) |
| 19:32 | sekjal: 7922? I think adding the sql would work - into your database | |
| 19:32 | it's only the sample news translated to german | |
| 19:34 | sekjal | cait: done |
| 19:36 | cait | thx :) |
| 19:44 | slef | bug 5395 |
| 19:44 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5395 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mjr, ASSIGNED , C4::Acquisition::SearchOrder POD inconsistent with function |
| 19:45 | slef | updating POD doesn't count as a string change, does it? |
| 19:45 | jcamins | I wouldn't think so, no. |
| 19:45 | sekjal | slef: no, I don't think it does, since it's not translated |
| 19:45 | slef | bah out of time :( |
| 19:46 | but good to know for next time | |
| 19:46 | thanks both | |
| 19:46 | ciao | |
| 19:46 | cheerio | |
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| 20:05 | shahas | hii |
| 20:06 | oleonard | Hi shahas |
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| 20:14 | libsysguy | i don't suppose anyone is running hourly yet are they? |
| 20:14 | aka master? | |
| 20:14 | rangi | not in production anywhere for me |
| 20:14 | libsysguy | man, hourly fines aren't working for me |
| 20:14 | and I wanted to make sure i wasn't crazy | |
| 20:21 | cait | libsysguy: there is a bug and patch i think? |
| 20:21 | bug 7852 | |
| 20:21 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7852 major, P1 - high, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , Hourly loan fines are not working |
| 20:21 | libsysguy | yeah i did that one |
| 20:21 | but apparently its not working as I thought it would | |
| 20:22 | well i take it back | |
| 20:22 | i started that one | |
| 20:22 | kyle and ian finished it :p | |
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| 20:31 | Brooke | o/ |
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| 20:32 | Morthland | Howdy |
| 20:32 | On a fresh install, I run into this error | |
| 20:32 | http://pastebin.com/UFZPBJF6 | |
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| 20:35 | gmcharlt | Morthland: several possibilities |
| 20:36 | - the koha database hasn't been created yet | |
| 20:36 | - it has been created but the grant privleges has been run yet | |
| 20:36 | - grant priveleges has been run but not flush privileges | |
| 20:36 | - the database credentials in koha-conf.xml don't match what you set when you created the database and database user | |
| 20:37 | Morthland | where is koha-conf.xml? |
| 20:37 | wahanui | somebody said koha-conf.xml was a config file, not a port |
| 20:37 | gmcharlt | Morthland: it can vary slightly - how did you install Koha? |
| 20:37 | from package , tarball, or Git clone? | |
| 20:37 | Morthland | Git |
| 20:38 | gmcharlt | looks like you did so using "standard" mode, so check in /etc/koha |
| 20:39 | Morthland | where do I see the credentials? |
| 20:40 | Wait, | |
| 20:40 | gmcharlt | look near the bottom of file, for user and password |
| 20:40 | Morthland | I think I've figured it out |
| 20:40 | gmcharlt | cool |
| 20:40 | Morthland | Let me show you what I see |
| 20:40 | http://pastebin.com/gwBeBd69 | |
| 20:42 | gmcharlt | weird, so it's copied over the template for koha-conf.xml, but not the version filled out with the parameters you would have chosen when you ran Makefile.PL |
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| 20:43 | Morthland | right now I am in /home/morthland/koha-latest/koha-3.06.04/etc |
| 20:43 | do I need to go to the root instead? | |
| 20:43 | gmcharlt | ah, so you're looking at the template |
| 20:43 | what does /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml look like? | |
| 20:44 | Morthland | I see |
| 20:44 | it looks correct | |
| 20:44 | gmcharlt | let's try connecting to the database directly |
| 20:44 | e.g., | |
| 20:45 | mysql -u koha -pYOURPASSWORD D koha | |
| 20:45 | make that... | |
| 20:45 | mysql -u koha -pYOURPASSWORD -D koha | |
| 20:46 | Morthland | it says denied |
| 20:47 | mveron | rangi: I refactured Bug 7621 using framework/biblioitems as suggested. |
| 20:47 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7621 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, veron, Needs Signoff , Circulation: Match age restriction of title with borrower's age without using categories |
| 20:48 | gmcharlt | Morthland: try redoing the steps in the install instructions to create the database user |
| 20:48 | rangi | mveron++ |
| 20:48 | cait | mveron++ |
| 20:50 | Morthland | My root password |
| 20:51 | is no longer working | |
| 20:54 | mveron | Thanks rangi and cait for the great support - and Good Night #koha |
| 20:57 | Morthland | Got into it |
| 21:06 | magnus_afk | heh: http://i.imgur.com/zRDq4.png |
| 21:06 | wizzyrea | ELL OH ELL |
| 21:08 | gmcharlt | Morthland: all set? |
| 21:09 | magnus_afk: I wonder how this would compare with a global map for earplug sales? | |
| 21:10 | magnus_afk | huh? you gotta speak louder, man! |
| 21:11 | gmcharlt | magnus_afk++ |
| 21:12 | just leave a symlink so that the prev version will still work | |
| 21:12 | *sigh* | |
| 21:12 | * gmcharlt | will get used to irssi yet if it kills him! |
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| 21:14 | Morthland | I got it taken care of |
| 21:15 | * magnus_afk | bids #koha a fond farewell |
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| 21:31 | Space_Librarian | o/ |
| 21:38 | wizzyrea | heya :) |
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| 21:43 | Space_Librarian | 'sup? |
| 21:43 | wizzyrea | not a lot |
| 21:43 | * Space_Librarian | hands over a 'smore |
| 21:43 | wizzyrea | ooh |
| 21:44 | Space_Librarian | :) |
| 21:52 | riddle me this: http://screencast.com/t/4b71eufqj3 - would that be difficult to do? Made it one or two points bigger, and in bold? | |
| 21:52 | wizzyrea | sure ez |
| 21:52 | one sec and I'll get u the css | |
| 21:52 | Space_Librarian | You're awesome. |
| 21:53 | pastebot | "wizzyrea" at 24.124.17.146 pasted "Something like this" (7 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/348 |
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| 21:53 | wizzyrea | that would give you |
| 21:53 | * wizzyrea | twiddles her thumbs while this loads aha |
| 21:54 | mib_41iymn | i understand that ngingx is good for running koha ...but is there any particular concerns versus running on apache? |
| 21:54 | wizzyrea | http://screencast.com/t/TuhGSM4TnQ7j |
| 21:54 | mib_41iymn | i'm about to install a fresh server using the latest koha |
| 21:55 | wizzyrea: i guess that link wasnt meant for me lol | |
| 21:55 | wizzyrea | :) nope - also I have no clue as to the pros/cons of nginx |
| 21:56 | mib_41iymn | hmm |
| 21:56 | wizzyrea | Space_Librarian: that link *was* however, for you |
| 21:56 | Space_Librarian | wizzyrea: That's awesome. Do I put that in the opacuserjs or the css? |
| 21:56 | wizzyrea | and you put that CSS in your opacusercss |
| 21:56 | Space_Librarian | And it really is poifect |
| 21:56 | :) | |
| 21:56 | mib_41iymn | i see online where someone was requesting a online tutorial from chris via irc but i dont find any links to the related irc logs if indeed it took place |
| 21:57 | wizzyrea | you can search them at irc.koha-community.org |
| 21:57 | might be worth a try | |
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| 22:01 | mtj | irc? |
| 22:01 | wahanui | irc is at http://koha-community.org/support/ |
| 22:01 | mib_41iymn | hmmm not looking too good |
| 22:01 | lol | |
| 22:02 | wizzyrea | mtj, i haven't gotten to the things you emailed about yet - today was WICKED busy |
| 22:02 | but I haven't forgotten you . :) | |
| 22:02 | mtj | wahanui forget irc |
| 22:02 | wahanui | mtj: I forgot irc |
| 22:02 | mib_41iymn | wizzyrea: where you from(WICKED)? |
| 22:02 | mtj | irc is http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/ |
| 22:03 | irc? | |
| 22:03 | wahanui | somebody said irc was http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/ |
| 22:03 | mtj | wizzyrea's location is always a secret |
| 22:04 | mib_41iymn | lol |
| 22:05 | Space_Librarian | :) wizzyrea is a secret agent |
| 22:06 | mtj | wizzyrea: yep, no hurry girl |
| 22:06 | mib_41iymn | just that the word wicked is my native original :) |
| 22:06 | wondered | |
| 22:10 | mtj | wicked means 'very' in that sentence |
| 22:10 | mib_41iymn | i know |
| 22:10 | jcamins_away | Shari is very dubious about my proposed chocolate avocado muffins. |
| 22:11 | mib_41iymn | bye yall |
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| 22:34 | Space_Librarian | quick question: when is the next version of Koha released? |
| 22:35 | jcamins_away | In theory, April 23. |
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| 22:58 | Space_Librarian | sw33t |
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| 23:37 | mtj | haay, has everyone seen this? -> http://koha.mediathequeouestpr[…]koha/opac-main.pl |
| 23:37 | http://koha.mediathequeouestprovence.fr/ | |
| 23:38 | lurker | mtj: you mean, able to view the site? |
| 23:38 | mtj | specifically the 'carousel' plugin |
| 23:38 | http://www.professorcloud.com/[…]site/carousel.htm | |
| 23:39 | lurker, no - specifically the 'carousel' plugin | |
| 23:39 | biblibre++ | |
| 23:39 | lurker | mtj: yes on your second url |
| 23:40 | Space_Librarian | that is a stunning opac! |
| 23:40 | biblibre++ | |
| 23:41 | And I see we've got our second Koha User's Group day in Wellington on the 18th May. Big ups to the Treasury guys for that. | |
| 23:42 | mtj | me would love to commit that, for koha-3.10 |
| 23:43 | and yeah, i just spotted that email on the list too :p | |
| 23:44 | Space_Librarian | I love that carousel plugin... |
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| 23:57 | Judit | morning |
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| 23:57 | eythian | Judit: new Koha User's Group here. You coming? |
| 23:57 | Irma | G'day #Koha |
| 23:58 | Space_Librarian | eythian: I agree, they should all come along |
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