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| 01:19 | rangi | hi BobB |
| 01:20 | BobB | hi rangi |
| 01:27 | Space_Librarian | hey rangi and BobB |
| 01:28 | * Space_Librarian | is listening to the cricket |
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| 02:16 | * cait | waqves |
| 02:16 | waves | |
| 02:19 | eythian | go to bed, cait |
| 02:19 | cait | wish I could :) |
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| 02:23 | BobB | hi Space_Librarian; hi ethyian |
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| 02:45 | cait-m | 2 |
| 02:45 | * cait-m | waves |
| 02:50 | rangi | on the train? |
| 02:51 | cait-m | Yep |
| 02:51 | Only 6 min for changing trains latsr | |
| 02:51 | Hope that works | |
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| 02:57 | * wizzyrea | waves |
| 02:57 | rangi | sup wizzyrea |
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| 03:03 | cait-m | Waves again |
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| 03:11 | wizzyrea | hey cait |
| 03:11 | cait | hey liz :) |
| 03:29 | mtj | eythian: about for a csvtomarc.pl question? |
| 03:29 | eythian | yarp |
| 03:30 | mtj | ok, quickly.... |
| 03:30 | ive just started using the script, with great success, heres my Q | |
| 03:31 | is it possible to create item (952) records from just a bib.csv file? | |
| 03:32 | or must one use an aditional items.csv file too? (for linking/matching) | |
| 03:33 | eythian | mtj: yeah it is |
| 03:33 | it'll by default create 1 item per bib record if there's no other items, and if you put something into an items field. | |
| 03:33 | mtj | ok, using the splitcount function, etc |
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| 03:34 | Amit_Gupta | heya bag |
| 03:35 | eythian | mtj: splitcount, and there's something else that just takes a number. |
| 03:35 | Depending on the nature of your input file. | |
| 03:35 | mtj | eythian: ok - its not a big problem currently, and thanks - the script is pretty awesome! |
| 03:36 | eythian | mtj: oh, not splitcount: itemparts |
| 03:36 | mtj | its very useful for me, sure... but even more useful for libraries attempting their own bib imports :) |
| 03:37 | eythian | mtj: special:count is the other one |
| 03:37 | Ah right, we use it mostly for migrations. | |
| 03:38 | mtj | yep, imports migrations, etc |
| 03:41 | hmm, am i running an old version from your repo - that feature is missing from my file :/ | |
| 03:41 | eythian | are you sure? I think it was one of the original features. |
| 03:43 | mtj | masongw1:~/g/clients/catalyst/koha/import/csv$ git log csvtomarc.pl |
| 03:43 | commit 34c8f24ae7a17c2df0b87c343e55338097ee4af7 | |
| 03:44 | Date: Wed Oct 26 12:28:41 2011 +1300 | |
| 03:44 | . | |
| 03:44 | i may have an old oct-2011 version ? | |
| 03:44 | eythian | hmm |
| 03:44 | e5121250 (Robin Sheat 2011-10-10 14:15:30 +1300 1073) } elsif ($field =~ /^special:count/) { | |
| 03:45 | although I thought it was older than that. | |
| 03:45 | Although, I think I ran perltidy over it all around then. | |
| 03:45 | because that's a very popular commit | |
| 03:46 | Amit_Gupta | heya mtj |
| 03:46 | mtj | ahh, i was grepping for 'itemparts', no results.. |
| 03:46 | eythian | Oh, no, I merged it into 3.4 the hacky way, so that's as old as the history gets. |
| 03:46 | mtj | heya Amit_Gupta |
| 03:47 | ok, no probs... :) | |
| 03:48 | eythian: so... ive got a recent-ish copy? | |
| 03:48 | eythian | yeah. You could grab the one from the nzei_import nranch, it's the most current. |
| 03:48 | I need to develop a better way to work on it really. | |
| 03:48 | Probably seperate it from Koha a bit more and have its own repo. | |
| 03:50 | rangi | could put in the import repo on git.koha-community.org |
| 03:51 | eythian | that exists? |
| 03:51 | Cos that would be suitable alright | |
| 03:51 | rangi | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ols.git;a=summary |
| 03:51 | empty at the mo | |
| 03:52 | but looks like a good spot to me | |
| 03:52 | ping druthb and/or gmcharlt | |
| 03:52 | mtj | ah, yep i grabbed it from the 'import_branch' branch... |
| 03:52 | http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?[…]ads/import_branch | |
| 03:53 | eythian | mtj: yeah, that tends to get updated when we finish something. |
| 03:55 | mtj | i just recently installed cgit on my repo, man its FAST!! |
| 03:58 | cgit: 4 seconds to load all my git repos.., gitweb: 90-ish seconds :/ | |
| 03:59 | something to consider for git.catalyst.net.nz ? | |
| 04:01 | eythian | not bad |
| 04:01 | Dunno, I'll mention it perhaps. Not even sure who runs it. | |
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| 04:06 | mtj | cool, i just grabbed the newer version from 'nzei' branch, all good here :) |
| 04:09 | (adds another beer to the catalyst bar-tab) | |
| 04:12 | eythian | heh |
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| 04:42 | mtj | hmm marc21 question.... |
| 04:42 | which marc field does additional author info go into? | |
| 04:42 | not 100$a ... but ? | |
| 04:43 | wizzyrea | @marc 245 |
| 04:43 | huginn | wizzyrea: The title and statement of responsibility area of the bibliographic description of a work. [a,b,c,f,g,h,k,n,p,s,6,8] |
| 04:43 | * wizzyrea | is not a marc expert |
| 04:43 | wizzyrea | (not like some people) |
| 04:43 | eythian | @marc 700 |
| 04:43 | huginn | eythian: An added entry in which the entry element is a personal name. (Repeatable) [a,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,j,k,l,m,n,o,p,q,r,s,t,u,x,3,4,5,6,8] |
| 04:43 | wahanui | i already had it that way, huginn. |
| 04:43 | mtj | http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd700.html perhaps? |
| 04:43 | @marc 700 | |
| 04:43 | huginn | mtj: An added entry in which the entry element is a personal name. (Repeatable) [a,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,j,k,l,m,n,o,p,q,r,s,t,u,x,3,4,5,6,8] |
| 04:43 | wahanui | i already had it that way, huginn. |
| 04:43 | rangi | @marc 710 |
| 04:43 | huginn | rangi: An added entry in which the entry element is a corporate name. (Repeatable) [a,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,k,l,m,n,o,p,r,s,t,u,x,3,4,5,6,8] |
| 04:44 | rangi | theres lots of 700's |
| 04:44 | for authors | |
| 04:44 | depending on the types | |
| 04:44 | and | |
| 04:44 | @marc 110 | |
| 04:44 | huginn | rangi: A corporate name used as a main entry in a bibliographic record. [a,b,c,d,e,f,g,k,l,n,p,t,u,4,6,8] |
| 04:44 | rangi | etc |
| 04:44 | eythian | if it would be 100, it goes 700, and 110->710, etc. |
| 04:44 | (roughly anyway) | |
| 04:44 | mtj | gotcha, 700$a is the biz here ;) |
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| 05:25 | gmcharlt | @later tell cait http://git.koha-community.org/[…]/heads/dom-biblio |
| 05:25 | huginn | gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. |
| 05:31 | eythian | when a suggestion is approved/rejected, does the suggester get an email? |
| 05:31 | rangi | cant remember |
| 05:32 | eythian | There's no syspref either way... |
| 05:32 | rangi | it might be an enhanced message thing |
| 05:33 | eythian | from google, I think if you have a template set up, then it'll send something, if not it won't. |
| 05:33 | rangi | sounds plausible |
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| 05:45 | gmcharlt | hi cait |
| 05:45 | cait | hi gmcharlt :) |
| 05:50 | gmcharlt: I got your message from huginn | |
| 05:51 | gmcharlt: travelling today and tomorrow - perhaps I can test after that, if that's what you wanted me to do? | |
| 05:52 | gmcharlt | cait: thanks! |
| 05:52 | (and yes, that's what I was hoping you might do when you had a chance) | |
| 05:53 | cait | :) |
| 05:53 | Irma asked about searching for 'see also' from the authorities last night | |
| 05:53 | I hope we can make that happen for 3.10 | |
| 05:54 | somehow... but first dom indexing :) | |
| 05:55 | eythian | what is DOM indexing of bibs when it's at home? |
| 05:55 | it sounds interesting. | |
| 05:56 | gmcharlt | eythian: http://www.indexdata.com/zebra[…]model-domxml.html |
| 05:56 | cait | eythian: it will be great ;) |
| 05:56 | gmcharlt | but the elevator pitch - it's an indexing mode of Zebra's that allows for a *lot* more flexibility than the GRS-1 Zebra filter that we've all come to know and hate |
| 05:57 | cait | eythian: like proper indexing for 880 fields great |
| 05:57 | eythian | @marc 880 |
| 05:57 | huginn | eythian: The fully content-designated representation, in a different script, of another field in the same record. Field 880 is linked to the associated regular field by subfield $6 (Linkage). The first and second indicator positions in field 880 have the same definition and values as the indicators in the associated field. The subfield codes in field 880 are the same as those defined in the associated field (1 more message) |
| 05:57 | cait | it's the field for original scripts |
| 05:57 | and the field it corresponds to is in a subfield | |
| 05:57 | eythian | hmm. cool. |
| 05:58 | cait | which at the moment makes us copy information to 9xx fields... and that is not nice |
| 05:58 | so you can have them indexed separately as title, author... etc. | |
| 05:58 | * gmcharlt | looks a clock, realizes he doesn't want to turn this into an all-nighter |
| 05:58 | eythian | ah, sweet |
| 05:58 | gmcharlt | good night |
| 05:58 | rangi | sleep well gmcharlt |
| 05:59 | eythian | try not to dream of XML |
| 05:59 | cait | sleep well :) |
| 06:06 | eythian | http://apenwarr.ca/log/?m=201203#26 <-- "I mean, we are running Access in Wine in X11 on Linux in an isolated user account on our server slice that revision controls your Access database in git, and we're displaying it using VNC in your web browser in Flash." |
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| 06:07 | eythian | http://apenwarr.ca/log/?m=201203#26 <-- "I mean, we are running Access in Wine in X11 on Linux in an isolated user account on our server slice that revision controls your Access database in git, and we're displaying it using VNC in your web browser in Flash." (reposted for mbalmer's benefit ;) |
| 06:10 | mbalmer | wow ;) |
| 06:14 | magnuse | kia ora #koha |
| 06:15 | rangi | hi magnuse |
| 06:15 | magnuse | hiya rangi! |
| 06:15 | you still here? :-) | |
| 06:15 | rangi | yeah doing a go live |
| 06:15 | jransom | heya Magnus |
| 06:15 | its go live for hlt tonight | |
| 06:16 | magnuse | KIA ORA jransom! :-) |
| 06:16 | jransom | man I wish i was coming to kohacon12 |
| 06:16 | * magnuse | too |
| 06:16 | magnuse | i wish we were both coming, that is |
| 06:16 | jransom | are you not going either? |
| 06:17 | magnuse | sadly not |
| 06:17 | eythian | it's like right next door for you |
| 06:17 | rangi | jransom: how many koha go lives now? |
| 06:17 | eythian | you could just about walk there! |
| 06:17 | rangi | i think this is your 5th ? |
| 06:17 | jransom | have you put a bid in for KohaCon2013 |
| 06:17 | magnuse | jransom: well, the reason is not so sad, we're having a baby june 26th if all goes to plan |
| 06:17 | rangi | in 12.5 years |
| 06:17 | yay! | |
| 06:17 | jransom | reason is brilliant :) |
| 06:17 | congratulations Magnus | |
| 06:17 | mbalmer | eythian, that is for sure a strange setup ;) |
| 06:17 | jransom | that is so exciting :) |
| 06:18 | magnuse | thanks jransom |
| 06:18 | jransom | i wonder if it is the 5th |
| 06:18 | either 4th or 5th | |
| 06:18 | rangi | 99 |
| 06:18 | version 1.0 then | |
| 06:18 | jransom | this is your 99th? |
| 06:18 | ah - sorry | |
| 06:18 | rangi | heh no 1999 was my first ;) |
| 06:18 | but yeah it probably is | |
| 06:19 | something like that | |
| 06:19 | then 1.2 | |
| 06:19 | then 2.2 then 3.2 | |
| 06:19 | jransom | so this the 5th then |
| 06:19 | rangi | i think so |
| 06:19 | jransom | last one was a huge one and totally uneventful - as a good upgrade should be :) |
| 06:20 | magnuse | 5th go live? for hlt? |
| 06:20 | rangi | heres hoping this is the same |
| 06:20 | yep | |
| 06:20 | magnuse | yay |
| 06:20 | rangi | 5th major version upgrade |
| 06:20 | the main difference in this one is moving to using the packages | |
| 06:21 | magnuse | going from 3.2.3 to? |
| 06:21 | yay! | |
| 06:21 | packages++ | |
| 06:21 | rangi | 3.6.4 |
| 06:21 | magnuse | @karma packages |
| 06:21 | huginn | magnuse: Karma for "packages" has been increased 10 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 10. |
| 06:21 | magnuse | packages++ |
| 06:21 | and once the packages have l10n they will be totally awesome... | |
| 06:22 | jransom | i don't understand them sadly - bu they seem to make people happy |
| 06:22 | magnuse | eythian: did you say once that you just run the normal "translate" script on the packages to install additional languages, or did i mis-hear something? |
| 06:23 | yeah, just mention the packages and my face lights up in a smile :-) | |
| 06:23 | rangi | jransom: means to go to 3.8.0 we run apt-get update |
| 06:23 | apt-get upgrade | |
| 06:23 | wahanui | apt-get upgrade is, like, a lot easier ;-) |
| 06:23 | rangi | finished |
| 06:23 | magnuse | w00t!1! |
| 06:23 | eythian | magnuse: no, that's right |
| 06:23 | rangi | its so easy, waitaki is doing their own ones on their testing server now |
| 06:24 | magnuse | waitaki++ |
| 06:24 | eythian | @karma < |
| 06:24 | huginn | eythian: < has neutral karma. |
| 06:24 | eythian | @karma <! |
| 06:24 | huginn | eythian: Karma for "<!" has been increased 6 times and decreased 115 times for a total karma of -109. |
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| 06:25 | eythian | everyone hates XML comments |
| 06:25 | magnuse | eythian: ah, so need to mess around with the rebased patches from the l10n branch, then... |
| 06:25 | eythian | magnuse: howso? |
| 06:25 | magnuse | s/so need/so no need/ |
| 06:26 | eythian | oh, yes |
| 06:26 | that makes more sense :) | |
| 06:26 | magnuse | :-) |
| 06:26 | nice: http://meetings.koha-community.org/ | |
| 06:27 | gmcharlt++ | |
| 06:27 | jransom | oh wow that sound seasy |
| 06:27 | so ill do my own upgrades then ? | |
| 06:27 | and can therefore use my system support budget for bug fixing and enhancements :) | |
| 06:28 | rangi | yup, with the new setup we asked for, you will have a testing machine so you can do it there check its ok, then do it live |
| 06:28 | thats the plan | |
| 06:28 | magnuse | yay |
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| 06:28 | magnuse | guten morgen cait |
| 06:29 | jransom | heya Cait |
| 06:29 | cait | guten morgen magnuse - evening jo :) |
| 06:30 | eythian | jransom: also STDC has it set up so that every week or so, the production system data is copied into staging, so they can play around with changing settings to see what it'll change without risking changing production. |
| 06:30 | (copied automatically) | |
| 06:30 | * magnuse | will have a setup like that for his customers, one of these days |
| 06:31 | eythian | it's pretty easy, I think it took me a few hours to make work, now it's all automatic |
| 06:31 | just a script that grabs the latest backup and copies it. | |
| 06:31 | jransom | :) |
| 06:31 | magnuse | yeah, i'll get a round tuit |
| 06:33 | rangi | easy with the packages :) |
| 06:33 | magnuse | yeah packages++ |
| 06:34 | jransom | You have a baby coming magnus; you won't get anything much done for a yeah or 2 :) |
| 06:35 | magnuse | well, i hope it's not quite as bad as that |
| 06:35 | but i do wonder how it will work out, especially with my office at home... | |
| 06:37 | they do sometimes sleep, right? | |
| 06:37 | right?? | |
| 06:38 | rangi | yep, actually they sleep a lot the first few months |
| 06:38 | jransom | mostly during the day :) |
| 06:38 | magnuse | woohoo :-) |
| 06:38 | rangi | its once they are crawling that your life ends |
| 06:38 | magnuse | hehe |
| 06:38 | rangi | :) |
| 06:39 | jransom | i had one that screamed for 6 weeks |
| 06:39 | magnuse | and i suspect there is an urge to just stand and stare at them even if they are sleeping? |
| 06:39 | rangi | yup |
| 06:39 | jransom | definitely |
| 06:39 | rangi | but the urge to go play legos with them when they are older is even more irresitable |
| 06:39 | magnuse | yay |
| 06:39 | jransom | and to stay sitting cuddling when they fall asleep in your arms |
| 06:39 | magnuse | awww... :-) |
| 06:40 | jransom | I go drinking and dancing with mine now ... my how time passes |
| 06:40 | magnuse | hehe |
| 06:40 | and one of them has a patch in koha! :-) | |
| 06:40 | guess i have to wait a little bit before that happens... | |
| 06:41 | cait | heh :) |
| 06:41 | magnuse | but we'll get there! |
| 06:41 | rangi | the trick is to just get them computer too https://secure.flickr.com/phot[…]94/in/photostream |
| 06:41 | magnuse | heh |
| 06:41 | jransom | oh that is so cute |
| 06:41 | cait | it is |
| 06:41 | jransom | connor was talking about oha tonight over dinner |
| 06:41 | eythian | anyone want a super-easy bug to sign off? bug 7824 |
| 06:41 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7824 normal, P5 - low, ---, robin, Needs Signoff , Typo in opac-userupdate.tt causes the first name to not show in the header |
| 06:41 | jransom | and what he would do if he came at spent school holidays at Catalyst |
| 06:42 | :) | |
| 06:42 | magnuse | wow, sound like someone did something right, then :-) |
| 06:42 | eythian | jransom: I assume you're aware that we have a lot of high-schoolers here over the hols then? |
| 06:42 | jransom | Don might have mentioned it :) |
| 06:43 | eythian | thought as much :) |
| 06:43 | jransom | I fear he is a little too young and gets distracted too easily |
| 06:44 | rangi | couple more years |
| 06:44 | jransom | yup |
| 06:46 | ooohh: updated archiects photos of our new library: http://www.tetakere.org.nz/ | |
| 06:47 | magnuse | yay |
| 06:47 | that is gonna be awesome | |
| 06:48 | jransom | yes indeed ... i |
| 06:48 | eythian | > Enjoy a not so serious quiz with four outrageous liars - ... Rosalie Blake ... |
| 06:48 | that seems a bit mean :) | |
| 06:48 | jransom | i'm not keen on the Star Trek staff uniform |
| 06:48 | oh she lies with the best of them | |
| 06:49 | eythian | Just so long as it doesn't have the star trek lack of toilets |
| 06:49 | jransom | I went to a trial run on the weekend and was astounded at the lies |
| 06:49 | eythian | haha |
| 06:49 | jransom | 4 of them each telling stories |
| 06:50 | magnuse | is the fundraising on schedule? |
| 06:51 | jransom | yes - its going well. |
| 06:51 | magnuse | yay! |
| 06:51 | jransom | construction is ahead of schedule |
| 06:51 | and on budget | |
| 06:51 | magnuse | double yay! |
| 06:51 | eythian | pfft "on budget", like that ever happens. |
| 06:51 | :) | |
| 06:52 | Maybe you've been listening to Rosalie ;) | |
| 06:52 | next you'll be saying it's ahead of schedule! :) | |
| 06:52 | jransom | well the builders have been overheard in the local pub saying they are ahead of schedule |
| 06:53 | ;0 | |
| 06:53 | ;) | |
| 06:53 | magnuse | hehe |
| 06:53 | jransom | some good photos here: http://tetakere.blogspot.co.nz/ |
| 06:54 | the thing is its a contract price so they get paid same amount whether they tae 8 months or 9 months | |
| 06:54 | magnuse | ooh clever |
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| 06:58 | cait | :) |
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| 07:02 | alex_a | hello #koha |
| 07:02 | eythian | srsly, MARC's publication date is 'yymmdd'? That's pretty terrible. |
| 07:03 | cait | ? |
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| 07:03 | eythian | > Computer-generated, six-character numeric string that indicates the date the MARC record was created. Recorded in the pattern yymmdd. |
| 07:03 | julian_m | hello |
| 07:03 | Joubu | hello |
| 07:04 | eythian | And then if you set 06 to 't' that means this is the publication date |
| 07:04 | you can also set it to 'b' for a BC date. | |
| 07:04 | These things are orthogonal! | |
| 07:05 | magnuse | did you expect anything better from marc?!? :-) |
| 07:05 | #marcmustdie | |
| 07:05 | eythian | magnus_afk: there's no one in that channel |
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| 07:06 | cait | eythian: breath - in and out |
| 07:06 | and good morning to biblibre :) | |
| 07:07 | eythian | cait: I have to grump about marc. It's compulsory. |
| 07:08 | cait | eythian: ok, you can grump about marc |
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| 07:11 | cait | morning paul_p |
| 07:11 | paul_p | good morning #koha |
| 07:11 | asaurat | hi ! |
| 07:11 | paul_p | hello cait. Safe travel to come back home ? |
| 07:11 | rangi | hi biblibre |
| 07:11 | cait | paul_p: yes, all went well |
| 07:11 | jransom | Hi Paul |
| 07:11 | Amit_Gupta | heya ait |
| 07:11 | heya cait | |
| 07:11 | mbalmer | bonjour |
| 07:12 | cait | hi Amit_Gupta and bonjour adrien :) |
| 07:12 | jransom | Paul: we finally drank that gorgeous french wine you brought over for kohacon10 |
| 07:12 | heya amit | |
| 07:12 | paul_p | jransom did you like it ? |
| 07:12 | jransom | it was absolutely delicious |
| 07:12 | sophie_m | hi #koha |
| 07:12 | paul_p | hi mbalmer & Amit_Gupta |
| 07:12 | jransom | he nicest red wine i think i have ever tasted |
| 07:13 | had to drink it slowly and savout it | |
| 07:13 | savour | |
| 07:14 | paul_p | i'm happy that you were pleased |
| 07:19 | cait | paul_p: biblibre must feel empty today? |
| 07:19 | * magnus_afk | was just thinking the same thing |
| 07:19 | paul_p | Callender a little bit, yes. We are still reordering everything. |
| 07:20 | and i'm feeling so tired ... I think it must be a kind of "strike-back" (frenchism ?) | |
| 07:21 | cait | paul_p: don't ask me - I am up since 3:30 |
| 07:21 | ... and in a train again | |
| 07:21 | so tired because of that I guess :) | |
| 07:22 | magnuse | 3:30 would explain a bit of tiredness, yes |
| 07:23 | cait | really early train |
| 07:24 | paul_p | but today is supposed to be the last day before the feature freeze, so I don't have time to sleep ;-) |
| 07:25 | magnuse | hehe |
| 07:25 | paul_p | I think i'll send a mail to koha-devel to give more details about what I won't push and what I could still push |
| 07:25 | magnuse | no sleep 'til feature freeze! |
| 07:25 | paul_p++ | |
| 07:25 | cait | so all new features go in today or not at all? |
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| 07:25 | eythian | paul_p: for 3.6.5? |
| 07:26 | reiveune | hello |
| 07:26 | wahanui | bonjour, reiveune |
| 07:26 | paul_p | eythian nope, for 3.8 |
| 07:26 | eythian | oh right |
| 07:26 | duh me | |
| 07:27 | paul_p | cait = nope. feature that are not changing the core of Koha complexity (like circulation) can still make their way. For example, hourly loans would be excluded -but they are in now, so it's OK- |
| 07:28 | cait | ah |
| 07:28 | so the hard freeze is the 6th then? | |
| 07:28 | * eythian | goes, and hopes someone signs off on his latest (1 character change) patch :) |
| 07:28 | paul_p | something like XSLT stylesheet can still be included because the default behaviour won't change, and there's only a tiny side effect risk. |
| 07:28 | cait | I signed off on dobrica's follow up this morning |
| 07:28 | it seems to work nicely | |
| 07:29 | eythian | bye all |
| 07:29 | cait | have a nice evening eythian |
| 07:30 | paul_p | bye eythian |
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| 07:32 | jransom | hello henri-damien |
| 07:32 | cait | bonjour :) |
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| 07:43 | francharb | morning #koha |
| 07:44 | rangi | hi francharb |
| 07:47 | jransom | heya Francois |
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| 08:06 | cjh | pparently |
| 08:06 | ww | |
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| 08:33 | Oak | kia ora #koha |
| 08:34 | hello cait :) | |
| 08:50 | slef | hi Oak, bye cait |
| 09:11 | magnuse | Oak |
| 09:23 | Oak | magnuse |
| 09:24 | hello slef | |
| 09:24 | rangi | right time to go home |
| 09:24 | * rangi | heads out |
| 09:24 | magnuse | see ya rangi! |
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| 09:31 | slef | @marc 362 a |
| 09:31 | huginn | slef: Dates of publication and/or sequential designation When both a sequential designation and a chronological designation are given, the chronological one is enclosed in parentheses. |
| 09:31 | slef | @marc 300 a |
| 09:31 | huginn | slef: Extent The number of pages, volumes, cassettes, total playing time, etc., of the described item. (Repeatable) |
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| 10:33 | magnuse | who's playing around with github? |
| 10:35 | ooh http://blogs.perl.org/users/cl[…]p-2012---cfp.html | |
| 10:35 | mtj | magnuse: me :) |
| 10:35 | magnuse | ah cool |
| 10:36 | mtj | v |
| 10:36 | https://github.com/Koha-Community/ | |
| 10:36 | https://github.com/Koha-Commun[…]ha/commits/master | |
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| 10:52 | magnuse | kia ora nengard! |
| 10:54 | mtj | kia ora nengard , magnuse |
| 10:54 | nengard | morning all |
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| 11:23 | gmcharlt | @quote random |
| 11:23 | huginn | gmcharlt: Quote #7: "Snow_Fox: a rift opens in space the information is shuffled to dev_hyperspace rift then closes" (added by wizzyrea at 03:28 PM, June 18, 2009) |
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| 12:01 | druthb | o/ |
| 12:01 | magnuse | \o |
| 12:01 | druthb | :D |
| 12:02 | magnuse | :-) |
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| 12:29 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
| 12:33 | paul_p | good morning oleonard ! nothing wrong with your travelling ? |
| 12:33 | (hi nengard too, of course) | |
| 12:33 | nengard | hiya |
| 12:33 | oleonard | No trouble at all this time paul_p |
| 12:33 | But trouble feeling awake this morning ;) | |
| 12:34 | paul_p++ # for a really fantastic week | |
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| 12:41 | magnuse | oleonard++ for travelling far and wide for koha |
| 12:43 | oleonard | No, you should only give me karma for something which is at least a little difficult |
| 12:43 | hdl | magnuse: were you not in NZ some while ago ? + what is near for you and I may be far for some other folks. |
| 12:43 | magnuse | :-) |
| 12:43 | asaurat | oleonard: you survived french cheese with an unprepared stomach |
| 12:44 | oleonard | Survived? The hardest part was having to stop when I was full |
| 12:45 | asaurat | hehe, nice :D |
| 12:48 | alex_a | reiveune doesn't have this problem |
| 12:48 | he never stop | |
| 12:48 | :D | |
| 12:48 | reiveune | someone say cheese ? |
| 12:48 | alex_a | lol |
| 12:49 | * druthb | fears she wouldn't stop, either. She didn't in India, and gained a couple of pounds on two weeks of Indian food. |
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| 12:51 | * gmcharlt | is suddenly hungry |
| 12:53 | * magnuse | too |
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| 12:56 | paul_p | we had some cheese for this lunch. And there is still some for tomorrow and probably the day after tomorrow, and maybe the day after the day after tomorrow. (Who said we bought too much ?) |
| 12:56 | druthb | heh |
| 12:56 | * gmcharlt | starts investigating the price of shipping cheese |
| 12:57 | paul_p | the biggest one being "beaufort" |
| 12:57 | magnuse | it's better to have too much cheese than too little cheese! |
| 12:57 | paul_p | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B[…]fort_%28cheese%29 |
| 12:58 | (the summer one) | |
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| 13:00 | libsysguy | no monday is complete without issues after a friday upgrade |
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| 13:39 | hdl | gmcharlt: any idea whether some logistic code are implemented in the sip2 code ? |
| 13:39 | Oak | what will happen to auto generating barcode format 2012-0001 when books exceed 9999? |
| 13:43 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7470 follow-up <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]4d371b634bb51481a> / Bug 7470 follow-up DBRev + removing ` <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]7abb942785a8d3f57> / Bug 7470: Babeltheque integration <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b4006508d863dc08c> / bug 717 |
| 13:43 | * slef | opens his koha mailbox for the first time in four days :( |
| 13:45 | gmcharlt | hdl: depends -- what do you mean by logistic code? |
| 13:48 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #680 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #675 3 days 21 hr ago) |
| 13:49 | oleonard | Attachment 8040 on Bug 5345 is a simple one to sign off on if anyone is able |
| 13:49 | huginn | 03Attachment http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]=8040&action=edit patch, DataTables missing some required images, Bug-5345-FOLLOW-UP-DataTables-in-Koha.patch |
| 13:49 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5345 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , DataTables in Koha | |
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| 14:02 | * Guest7716 | waves |
| 14:02 | * wizzyrea | waves again, properly this time. |
| 14:02 | oleonard | Hi wizzyrea |
| 14:02 | * magnuse | waves to the proper wizzyrea |
| 14:02 | wizzyrea | hey oleonard, glad you made it back safely :) |
| 14:04 | * druthb | launches herself across the room to tackle-hug wizzyrea. |
| 14:04 | * wizzyrea | makes noises like "mmrmph mrmph eee!" |
| 14:05 | oleonard | Long time no see? |
| 14:05 | wizzyrea | maybe it feels that way :) |
| 14:05 | * druthb | is getting used to having wizzyrea in her life. A lot. |
| 14:05 | nods n nods. | |
| 14:06 | hdl | gmcharlt: one of the RFID provider is asking us for 'logistic code' support. |
| 14:06 | I don't have more information. | |
| 14:10 | gmcharlt | hdl: hmm - is a for a sorter? |
| 14:12 | slef | where's the improper wizzyrea? |
| 14:13 | wizzyrea | technically speaking, right here. ;) |
| 14:13 | ba dum bum | |
| 14:14 | hdl | gmcharlt: ? |
| 14:16 | gmcharlt | hdl: I mean an RFID sorting device |
| 14:19 | what sort of equipment is the RFID vendor speaking about, specifically? | |
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| 14:23 | slef | hdl: I'd ask them which SIP commands and responses they need. OTTOMH I don't remember anything about logistics but I can search if you think it would help. |
| 14:26 | lculber | Can someone tell me if it is okay to post a job opening on the Koha list? I know it is international, but for once we have an opening and no applicants. It is for Koha cataloging supervisor. |
| 14:27 | oleonard | I don't see why not |
| 14:27 | hdl | slef: never mind, will have someone to talk technique with tomorrow. |
| 14:27 | * oleonard | can't remember if there have been precedents |
| 14:27 | gmcharlt | oleonard: pretty sure there have been job postings on the mailing list before |
| 14:28 | hdl | not for library job though :D |
| 14:28 | * gmcharlt | certainly has no objection |
| 14:28 | lculber | oleonard and gmcharlt: I couldn't find any precedents and chickened out. |
| 14:28 | hdl | i don't see any objection either. |
| 14:29 | jcamins_away | No objections from me. We've seen vendor ads. |
| 14:29 | lculber | Okay, then. I think I'll go for it. We haven't had any applicants, and it seems worth a try. Thanks everyone. Good day to you all! |
| 14:33 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7797 - admin/currency.pl needs scoping for plack <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d7516b485da43ce02> / Bug 7772 - reports/bor_issues_top.pl: we need to exit(0) for plack <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]618707f11bcedeec3> / Bug 7743 followup: fix use of removed formattedwaitingdate param in opac-user.tt <http:// |
| 14:34 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #680: STILL UNSTABLE in 46 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/680/ |
| 14:34 | * paul.poulain: tiny follow-up: removing ` that are mysqlism | |
| 14:34 | * juan.sieira: Bug 7263 - Determine maximum length of some fields or subfields when cataloguing a biblio or an item. | |
| 14:34 | * paul.poulain: big 7263 follow-up: DBRev number | |
| 14:34 | * paul.poulain: Bug 7780: make silent/verbose flag for translation installing | |
| 14:34 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7263 enhancement, P3, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Determine maximum length of some fields or subfields when cataloguing |
| 14:34 | jenkins_koha | * julian.maurice: Bug 7178: Acquisition item creation improvement |
| 14:34 | * paul.poulain: Bug 7178 follow-up DBRev number | |
| 14:34 | * paul.poulain: bug 7178 follow-up: typo fix | |
| 14:34 | * jonathan.druart: Bug 7470: Babeltheque integration | |
| 14:34 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7780 normal, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, Pushed to Master , fix translator tool verbosity |
| 14:34 | jenkins_koha | * paul.poulain: Bug 7470 follow-up DBRev + removing ` |
| 14:34 | * paul.poulain: Bug 7470 follow-up | |
| 14:34 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7178 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, ASSIGNED , Improve order item creation |
| 14:34 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7470 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, ASSIGNED , Babeltheque improvement and social networks links (like, +1,...) | |
| 14:35 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #681 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #675 3 days 22 hr ago) |
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| 14:38 | nengard | the link to join the mailing list on this page: http://koha-community.org/supp[…]ha-mailing-lists/ is not working - is the site down or is the link wrong? |
| 14:42 | @wizzyrea ^^ | |
| 14:42 | huginn | nengard: I suck |
| 14:42 | nengard | ?? |
| 14:42 | wizzyrea | wow, 2 secs and I'll check. |
| 14:43 | nengard | why does huginn suck? |
| 14:43 | wizzyrea | because you @'d me |
| 14:43 | hdl | needs more hug perhaps |
| 14:43 | wizzyrea | and he doesn't know what to do with that. |
| 14:43 | the link is right, but the website is gone, apparently | |
| 14:43 | nengard | hmmm |
| 14:43 | wizzyrea | I'm not sure who the contact is at katipo anymore - I guess rachel |
| 14:44 | oleonard | Uh, this isn't good: http://lists.katipo.co.nz |
| 14:44 | pastebot | "nengard" at 98.114.30.184 pasted "just did a fetch on master and now i'm seeing this error - ideas? what do I revert to get in to my staff client?" (18 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/320 |
| 14:44 | wizzyrea | lol oops. |
| 14:45 | looks like someone did an apache boo boo | |
| 14:45 | nengard | yikes |
| 14:45 | oleonard | nengard: there are new dependencies |
| 14:45 | nengard | oh! |
| 14:45 | how do you know that before you install an update? Shouldn't it let you fetch and get to the installer so you can see what dependencies you need? | |
| 14:46 | gmcharlt | flowers FTW! |
| 14:46 | oleonard | nengard: Bug 7820 lists them |
| 14:46 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7820 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Signed Off , Missing packages from install_misc/debian.packages |
| 14:46 | nengard | thanks |
| 14:46 | oleonard | I'm curious about that too nengard. Is there not a way to prompt the user to install new dependencies? |
| 14:47 | wizzyrea | well that might be a bit scary from the web interface |
| 14:47 | jcamins_away | Not if you're using git. |
| 14:47 | nengard | well the error is way scarier |
| 14:47 | :) | |
| 14:47 | wizzyrea | HOWEVER - we should show the "modules" page of about before we do any updates. |
| 14:47 | and not go forth if there are any red ones. | |
| 14:47 | nengard | i don't read all commits before fetching - i usually do it after :) cause then I updated the manual |
| 14:47 | jcamins_away | wizzyrea: that doesn't help if you're using git, though. |
| 14:48 | slef | clrh: could you put a summary on your wiki edits, please? |
| 14:48 | wizzyrea | it would help nicole's situation |
| 14:48 | oleonard | jcamins_away: You're right of course. Us devs can put up with the mystery better |
| 14:48 | jcamins_away | wizzyrea: except she's using git. |
| 14:48 | nengard | thanks oleonard i installed those three and it works now :) |
| 14:48 | * wizzyrea | doesn't follow |
| 14:49 | jcamins_away | wizzyrea: when someone does a git pull, git downloads the new files. |
| 14:49 | Period. | |
| 14:49 | wizzyrea | right - so the web installer should show you what you're missing |
| 14:49 | before it does the update | |
| 14:49 | and breaks your stuff | |
| 14:49 | oleonard | wizzyrea: You mean if there's a db update? |
| 14:49 | jcamins_away | But this is pre-webinstaller. |
| 14:49 | wizzyrea | right |
| 14:50 | I'm saying we need to intercept missing dependency problems before you see the message | |
| 14:50 | jcamins_away | I think that'd require a pretty major rewrite of Koha. |
| 14:50 | wizzyrea | why? we have the about -> modules page |
| 14:51 | and why can't we have a "dependency update" in addition to "database update" | |
| 14:51 | jcamins_away | Which is inaccessible if you do a git pull without all the dependencies. |
| 14:51 | wizzyrea | no no, you're thinking of intercepting long long before I am |
| 14:51 | i'm thinking do a pull -> there is a dependency update -> interface/web installer tells you that | |
| 14:52 | you go back, install it, refresh, it lets you on through | |
| 14:52 | jcamins_away | wizzyrea: nengard got that error the moment she tried to cnnect to her system. |
| 14:52 | *connect | |
| 14:52 | nengard | after doing the pull |
| 14:52 | yes | |
| 14:52 | wizzyrea | right! so we need to intercept it! |
| 14:52 | that's my point | |
| 14:52 | nengard | hehe |
| 14:52 | wizzyrea | here, let me be more plain |
| 14:52 | jcamins_away | Agreed. It has to be intercepted prior to trying to open any page, though. |
| 14:52 | Which means a complete rewrite of Koha to eliminate *all* C4 dependencies. | |
| 14:52 | wizzyrea | "dependencies should be caught like db updates are caught" |
| 14:53 | nengard | but before them - i think that's what jcamins is saying |
| 14:53 | jcamins_away | If you update via git, they can't be. |
| 14:53 | nengard | cause i didn't get to the db update page - i just got an error |
| 14:53 | jcamins_away | I mean, everyone could install a git hook, which would be a good idea, but I don't think we can force that. |
| 14:53 | wizzyrea | why can't we do a file like updatedatabase.pl |
| 14:54 | meh. | |
| 14:54 | gmcharlt | wizzyrea: because it could lead to chicken-and-egg situations for required modules |
| 14:55 | as an alternative, a post-merge Git hook could be set up in one's local Koha repo to do something like run koha_perl_deps.pl -m whenever one pulls | |
| 14:56 | jcamins_away | wizzyrea: we could do that, but that's not an interception-type thing. |
| 14:56 | That's the git hook idea that I just proposed. ;) | |
| 14:56 | The problem is that updatedatabase.pl and its ilk can't be run without their dependencies. | |
| 14:56 | This might be useful here: http://stackoverflow.com/quest[…]s-into-repository | |
| 14:56 | gmcharlt | jcamins_away: yeah, sorry, I'll get out of your head now ;) |
| 14:56 | wizzyrea | ok fine you're all right. |
| 14:59 | jcamins_away | My git aliases do koha_perl_deps.pl -m, in addition to updatedatabse, etc. |
| 14:59 | Just as an aside. Makes git com that much more useful. :) | |
| 15:06 | wizzyrea | i love those aliases. |
| 15:06 | they are so great | |
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| 15:08 | slef | second question? |
| 15:08 | wahanui | second question is "What is the exact error message?" |
| 15:08 | * chris_n | waves to gmcharlt |
| 15:08 | slef | third question? |
| 15:08 | wahanui | i think third question is "What version of Koha are you using?" |
| 15:08 | chris_n | fourth question? |
| 15:08 | slef | wahanui: forget third question |
| 15:08 | wahanui | slef: I forgot third question |
| 15:08 | * gmcharlt | waves back to chris_n r |
| 15:08 | slef | wahanui: third question is "What version of Koha are you using?" http://koha-community.org/faq/[…]ion-koha-running/ |
| 15:08 | wahanui | OK, slef. |
| 15:08 | jcamins_away | I still haven't written one that attaches all relevant patches to the bug report, but one day I'll have that. |
| 15:08 | wizzyrea | slef++ |
| 15:09 | hey slef, what's the 4th question ;) | |
| 15:09 | chris_n | wahanui: fourth question is "Are we there yet?" |
| 15:09 | wahanui | OK, chris_n. |
| 15:09 | * chris_n | ducks |
| 15:09 | * wizzyrea | giggles |
| 15:10 | gmcharlt | almost |
| 15:10 | wahanui: fifth question is "Are we there yet?" | |
| 15:10 | wahanui | OK, gmcharlt. |
| 15:10 | hdl | wizzyrea: answer is 42 |
| 15:10 | wizzyrea | hehe hdl :) |
| 15:11 | jcamins_away | answer? |
| 15:11 | wahanui | i think answer is always go back to sleep |
| 15:11 | nengard | love it |
| 15:11 | jcamins_away | life, the universe, and everything? |
| 15:11 | life, the universe, and everything is 42. | |
| 15:11 | life, the universe, and everything? | |
| 15:11 | wahanui | life, the universe, and everything is 42. |
| 15:12 | sjeffery | Is there a release timeline somewhere that shows which version will be released in the future? The release timeline from the site seems to only give past version info? |
| 15:12 | chris_n | sjeffery: we find we're better at dating past events than future ones... :-) |
| 15:13 | really, though... the release schedule is a new version every six months | |
| 15:13 | jcamins_away | They are on the way! |
| 15:13 | wizzyrea | but the releases come out every 6 months |
| 15:13 | bugfix releases come out every month | |
| 15:13 | jcamins_away | sjeffery: there's one in April, next in October, etc. |
| 15:13 | slef | wizzyrea: what's maddening? |
| 15:13 | what's maddening? | |
| 15:13 | wizzyrea | maddening? |
| 15:13 | slef | nm |
| 15:13 | chris_n | maddening? |
| 15:13 | jcamins_away | The crowd? |
| 15:13 | chris_n | snap |
| 15:13 | sjeffery | lol Chris, so you are saying that you are the weathermen of the software world? |
| 15:13 | chris_n | lol |
| 15:13 | jcamins_away | weather? |
| 15:13 | wahanui | hmmm... weather is nigh-on perfect here this morning...clear, 65F, supposed to get into the high 80s. Rain possible later in the week. |
| 15:14 | jcamins_away | weather is also cloudy with a chance of meatballs |
| 15:14 | weather ? | |
| 15:14 | sjeffery | ok, and when do major enhancements get closed out for the 6 month patches |
| 15:14 | jcamins_away | weather? |
| 15:14 | wahanui | weather is, like, nigh-on perfect here this morning...clear, 65F, supposed to get into the high 80s. Rain possible later in the week |
| 15:14 | * wizzyrea | supposes we should codify that 6 months/ bugfix release thing |
| 15:14 | wizzyrea | today, for version 3.8 |
| 15:14 | jcamins_away | Hey, did you know that wahanui does weather? |
| 15:14 | chris_n | sjeffery: usually, sometimes about 4 weeks prior to release |
| 15:14 | wizzyrea | sjeffery: usually 4-5 weeks before release |
| 15:14 | jinx | |
| 15:15 | slef | really most every question? |
| 15:15 | wahanui | really most every question is answered there |
| 15:15 | oleonard | wahanui can predict the weather better than some forecasters |
| 15:15 | wahanui | oleonard: what? |
| 15:15 | sjeffery | ok, so say 9/1 for the octover release? |
| 15:15 | wizzyrea | no, it will be october |
| 15:15 | sjeffery | And yeah, documenting that info on the timeline would be helpful:) |
| 15:15 | wizzyrea | oh, you mean feature freeze |
| 15:15 | chris_n | yes |
| 15:15 | wizzyrea | which site are you looking at |
| 15:15 | and what page | |
| 15:15 | wahanui | i think page is too big? |
| 15:15 | wizzyrea | so I know which one to update |
| 15:15 | sjeffery | https://launchpad.net/koha/+series |
| 15:15 | wizzyrea | wrong. |
| 15:16 | chris_n | sjeffery: that's a good estimate |
| 15:16 | wizzyrea | sorry, all of our information is at www.koha-communtiy.org |
| 15:16 | with community spelled correctly | |
| 15:16 | chris_n | subject to change based on the RM's decision as the day approaches |
| 15:16 | wizzyrea | of course |
| 15:16 | sjeffery | wizzy, this is linked to off http://koha-community.org/ |
| 15:16 | wizzyrea | from which page |
| 15:16 | chris_n | but you're probably safe if its submitted 4 weeks prior |
| 15:17 | sjeffery | Wizzy, look at the links on the right side of the main page |
| 15:17 | jcamins_away | chris_n: I'd probably say 6 weeks. |
| 15:17 | chris_n | I should add submitted, tested, signed off, QA'd, etc |
| 15:17 | sjeffery | "Koha Release Timeline" |
| 15:17 | wizzyrea | yes I see it |
| 15:17 | jcamins_away | Or I'd add that proviso. ;) |
| 15:17 | * chris_n | thinks the launchpad page is generated off of the repo |
| 15:17 | wizzyrea | yea it has to be at least up to "passed QS" |
| 15:18 | QA* | |
| 15:18 | to be considered for inclusion | |
| 15:18 | jcamins_away | And two weeks is not guaranteed to be enough time for testing, sign off, QA, etc. |
| 15:18 | * chris_n | hands jcamins_away a cup of iced coffee |
| 15:18 | jcamins_away | But you should definitely leave at least 2 weeks. :) |
| 15:18 | Thanks! | |
| 15:18 | sjeffery | Now stop acting like I am crazy for posting an off-domain link! |
| 15:18 | chris_n | :-) |
| 15:19 | jcamins_away | chris_n: uh-oh... was that caffeinated? |
| 15:19 | chris_n | jcamins_away: as you like it |
| 15:19 | jcamins_away | chris_n: even decaf, I appear to be bouncing off the walls. |
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| 15:21 | reiveune | bye |
| 15:21 | reiveune left #koha | |
| 15:21 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #681: STILL UNSTABLE in 46 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/681/ |
| 15:21 | * jcamins: Bug 7702: [SIGNED-OFF] MARC21 heading tests should not run under UNIMARC | |
| 15:21 | * m.de.rooy: Bug 7783: Show private shelves in opac when deleting non-empty private list from shelf view | |
| 15:21 | * dpavlin: Bug 7451 - PrepareItemrecordDisplay missing $subfield_data{id} which breaks AJAX value_builders | |
| 15:21 | * gaetan.boisson: Bug 7761 - cleaning up empty declarations from staff-global.css | |
| 15:21 | * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7760: More ids and classes for the staff interface | |
| 15:21 | * julian.maurice: Bug 7743: Update opac-account.pl to use KohaDates TT plugin | |
| 15:21 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7702 minor, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Test for C4::Heading::MARC21 should only run under MARC21 |
| 15:21 | jenkins_koha | * julian.maurice: Bug 7743: Update opac-tags.pl to use KohaDates TT plugin |
| 15:21 | * julian.maurice: Bug 7743: Update opac-user.pl to use KohaDates TT plugin | |
| 15:21 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7783 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , Show private shelves in opac when deleting non-empty private list from shelf view |
| 15:21 | jenkins_koha | * julian.maurice: Bug 7743: Update opac-detail.pl to use KohaDates TT plugin |
| 15:21 | * julian.maurice: Bug 7743: Update sco/sco-main.pl to use KohaDates TT plugin | |
| 15:21 | * julian.maurice: Bug 7743: Update opac-userupdate.pl to use KohaDates TT plugin | |
| 15:21 | * julian.maurice: Bug 7743: Update opac-showreviews.pl to use KohaDates TT plugin | |
| 15:21 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7451 critical, P1 - high, ---, dpavlin, Pushed to Master , PrepareItemrecordDisplay missing $subfield_data{id} which breaks AJAX value_builders |
| 15:21 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7761 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gaetan.boisson, Pushed to Master , cleaning up empty declarations from staff-global.css | |
| 15:21 | jenkins_koha | * julian.maurice: Bug 7743: Update opac-readingrecord.pl to use KohaDates TT plugin |
| 15:21 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7760 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Add ids and classes to every staff page to help with customizaton |
| 15:21 | jenkins_koha | * koha.sekjal: Bug 7743 followup: fix use of removed formattedwaitingdate param in opac-user.tt |
| 15:21 | * dpavlin: Bug 7772 - reports/bor_issues_top.pl: we need to exit(0) for plack | |
| 15:21 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7743 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Master , Use KohaDates TT plugin in OPAC |
| 15:21 | jenkins_koha | * dpavlin: Bug 7797 - admin/currency.pl needs scoping for plack |
| 15:21 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7772 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Pushed to Master , reports/bor_issues_top.pl: we need to exit(0) for plack |
| 15:21 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7797 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Pushed to Master , admin/currency.pl needs scoping for plack | |
| 15:21 | wizzyrea | wow julian, good work :) |
| 15:22 | jcamins_away | Wow. |
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| 15:25 | slef | launchpad should go die. I never asked to be on it and the details it has for me are incorrect, split, wrong. |
| 15:25 | wizzyrea | we also have a lovely github repo now, that does a lot of the same things. |
| 15:26 | jcamins_away | Yeah, I saw that. |
| 15:26 | * wizzyrea | ponders making the link to it go away |
| 15:26 | wizzyrea | in favor of ... I don't know what but not that. |
| 15:26 | sjeffery | I assumed that when clicking that link it would take me to a general page with the overall release timeline and cutoff dates...but that is just me |
| 15:28 | Maybe with info similar to this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A[…]p_release_history | |
| 15:28 | jcamins_away | https://github.com/Koha-Community/Koha/network ? |
| 15:28 | wizzyrea | mmm no |
| 15:29 | jcamins_away | Hm, no, that's something different. |
| 15:29 | history.txt? | |
| 15:30 | Where are the movers? | |
| 15:30 | (on their way, I know) | |
| 15:31 | wizzyrea | however this is pretty |
| 15:31 | https://github.com/Koha-Commun[…]oha/graphs/impact | |
| 15:31 | it starts getting really interesting in 2007 ;) | |
| 15:31 | slef | github should also go die, non-FOSS invader of FOSS projects |
| 15:31 | it's not been a banner day, can you tell? ;-) | |
| 15:31 | * wizzyrea | can |
| 15:32 | wizzyrea | it must be intercontinental bad day. |
| 15:32 | an* intercontinental | |
| 15:33 | slef | incontinental? |
| 15:33 | wizzyrea | lol, no. Unless there's something you're not telling us >.> |
| 15:33 | slef | not here |
| 15:34 | jcamins_away | On the subject of "Intercontinental," did you know that the Hotel Intercontinental in Kabul was infringing on the Hotel Intercontinental chain's trademark? |
| 15:36 | sjeffery | That is the most ridiculously random.... |
| 15:36 | jcamins_away | sjeffery: they were sued while I was over there, I think. |
| 15:36 | And bombed shortly after I left. | |
| 15:36 | Anyhoo. | |
| 15:40 | slef | trademarks are good, aren't they? |
| 15:41 | jcamins_away | Movers are here! :) |
| 15:41 | slef | Are patents, trademarks and copyrights the last divine rights of kings that the USA will defend? |
| 15:45 | paul_p | wizzyrea for me https://github.com/Koha-Commun[…]oha/graphs/impact is an empty page (on FF 11.0 shipped with ubuntu) |
| 15:45 | wizzyrea | :( that's stinky |
| 15:45 | won't use that one then. | |
| 15:45 | shame, because you're featured heavily on it | |
| 15:45 | :) | |
| 15:45 | paul_p | just get a king of cat with a progress roung |
| 15:45 | wizzyrea | it takes a bit to load |
| 15:45 | paul_p | s/roung/round/ |
| 15:45 | wizzyrea | i mean, longer than you might expect |
| 15:46 | paul_p | seems to slow my laptop indeed ;-) |
| 15:46 | * wizzyrea | actually went to a different tab and came back like, 10 minutes later |
| 15:46 | wizzyrea | no idea how long it actually took |
| 15:46 | but it is *interesting* | |
| 15:46 | we have a long, and storied history. :) | |
| 15:46 | * paul_p | head to http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]#showFailuresLink to fix the 4 problems -that are in fact only 2- |
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| 16:03 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #682 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #675 3 days 23 hr ago) |
| 16:03 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: bug 7470 follow-up, fix POD doc <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]5be1816ff8c21462a> |
| 16:09 | wizzyrea | interesting - you can't set a messaging default of "digest" without setting the corresponding notice as default. |
| 16:09 | intentional or a bug? | |
| 16:10 | so what if you want to make sure that people pick "digest" for say, item due, but you don't want to require them to get the notice? | |
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| 16:33 | paul_p | time to leave for me now. |
| 16:34 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7775 - tools/upload-file.pl: scoping for plack <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]eab65bc7809c3e910> / Bug 7799 - admin/marctagstructure.pl plack scoping <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]1d79de79c47296486> / Bug 7773 - serials/subscription-add.pl scope for plack <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]eb/?p=koha.git;a= |
| 16:34 | paul_p | gmcharlt: will answer on koha-devel tomorrow, but I missed that the DOM would be an ADDITION, not a REPLACEMENT, so it's OK to push it if it passes QA in the next 2 weeks |
| 16:34 | bye all, see you (my) tomorrow | |
| 16:49 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #682: STILL UNSTABLE in 46 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/682/ |
| 16:49 | paul.poulain: bug 7470 follow-up, fix POD doc | |
| 16:49 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7470 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, ASSIGNED , Babeltheque improvement and social networks links (like, +1,...) |
| 16:49 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #683 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #675 4 days 0 hr ago) |
| 16:58 | francharb | 0 |
| 16:58 | 0/ | |
| 16:58 | see ya | |
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| 17:00 | Oak | kia ora #koha |
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| 17:21 | Oak | night. |
| 17:27 | wizzyrea | interesting. Amazon related things started kind of working again. |
| 17:27 | was there a patch for that? | |
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| 17:36 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #683: STILL UNSTABLE in 46 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/683/ |
| 17:36 | * dpavlin: Bug 7795 - admin/authorised_values.pl breaks with plack | |
| 17:36 | * dpavlin: Bug 7798 - admin/item_circulation_alerts.pl plack scoping | |
| 17:36 | * dpavlin: Bug 7790 - tools/manage-marc-import.pl breaks with plack | |
| 17:36 | * dpavlin: Bug 7800 - admin/matching-rules.pl plack scoping | |
| 17:36 | * dpavlin: Bug 7801 - admin/patron-attr-types.pl plack scoping | |
| 17:36 | * dpavlin: Bug 7773 - serials/subscription-add.pl scope for plack | |
| 17:36 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7795 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Pushed to Master , admin/authorised_values.pl: breaks with plack |
| 17:36 | jenkins_koha | * dpavlin: Bug 7799 - admin/marctagstructure.pl plack scoping |
| 17:36 | * dpavlin: Bug 7775 - tools/upload-file.pl: scoping for plack | |
| 17:36 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7798 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Pushed to Master , admin/item_circulation_alerts.pl plack scoping |
| 17:36 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7790 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Pushed to Master , tools/manage-marc-import.pl breaks with plack | |
| 17:36 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7800 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Pushed to Master , admin/matching-rules.pl plack scoping | |
| 17:36 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7801 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Pushed to Master , admin/patron-attr-types.pl plack scoping | |
| 17:36 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7773 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Pushed to Master , serials/subscription-add.pl needs to scope $query for plack | |
| 17:36 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7799 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Pushed to Master , admin/marctagstructure.pl needs $dbh plack scoping | |
| 17:36 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7775 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Pushed to Master , tools/upload-file.pl: scope $uploaded_file for plack | |
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| 18:35 | rangi | Morning |
| 18:40 | bag | morning rangi |
| 18:43 | rangi | Hey bag |
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| 19:01 | libsysguy | opinions https://catalog.uttyler.edu/cg[…]earch.pl?q=lasers |
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| 19:06 | * magnus_afk | waves |
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| 19:15 | mbalmer | ola alo |
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| 19:16 | mbalmer | strange comment on 7365. need to reply tomorrow. |
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| 19:37 | wizzyrea | lol, lasers is your default search? |
| 19:37 | libsysguy: it's purty. | |
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| 19:40 | wizzyrea | have we codified the release schedule anywhere? |
| 19:40 | if it's on the wiki i'm failing at finding it | |
| 19:41 | on the list maybe? | |
| 19:41 | rangi | on the list |
| 19:42 | and i did a blog post | |
| 19:42 | wizzyrea | oo yes, now I remember |
| 19:43 | chris_n | heya rangi && wizzyrea |
| 19:43 | hmm... | |
| 19:43 | does using && there mean that if rangi is not here wizzyrea does not receive the greeting? | |
| 19:43 | rangi | heh |
| 19:43 | * wizzyrea | giggles |
| 19:44 | gmcharlt | hi chris_n || rangi || wizzyrea |
| 19:45 | chris_n | lol |
| 19:45 | rangi | libsysguy: you around? |
| 19:45 | * wizzyrea | waves at gmcharlt |
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| 19:46 | chris_n | hi jransom |
| 19:54 | by jwagner | |
| 20:14 | wizzyrea | @later tell sjeffery http://koha-community.org/about/release-schedule/ |
| 20:14 | huginn | wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. |
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| 21:35 | rangi | is there a way to stop koha popping a print dialogue when you enter a blank barcode when circulating? |
| 21:36 | cait | I think yes |
| 21:36 | trying to find it for you give me a sec | |
| 21:37 | rangi: CircAutoPrintQuickSlip | |
| 21:38 | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f86256f15581698be | |
| 21:38 | rangi | thanks |
| 21:38 | its pissing me off | |
| 21:38 | cait | hate to say it... but you signed off on it |
| 21:38 | rangi | yep it works as advertised |
| 21:38 | i just dont want it to | |
| 21:40 | bag | HA |
| 21:41 | rangi | ah thats not in 3.6.4 |
| 21:41 | darn | |
| 21:41 | cait | but should it be popping up then? |
| 21:41 | rangi | dunno but it is |
| 21:41 | and thats the annoying bit | |
| 21:41 | eythian | It seems reasonable that it would pop up then, so they can print their slips easily. |
| 21:42 | rangi | if they used the browser to print, not the server yes |
| 21:42 | eythian | Oh, I see |
| 21:42 | rangi | at the moment its just a pain, and no way to switch it off |
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| 22:44 | Judit | morning |
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