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| 02:10 | eythian | http://www.stuff.co.nz/nationa[…]red-zone-March-13 <-- first 30 seconds of this has the view inside the Chch central library at the moment. |
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| 03:34 | Amit_Gupta | heya bg |
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| 04:05 | Oak | kia ora #koha |
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| 04:25 | bag | heya Amit_Gupta |
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| 04:52 | Brooke | o/ |
| 04:57 | mtj | a random git Q from me.... |
| 04:58 | Oak | O Brooke how art thou? |
| 04:58 | Brooke | :D |
| 04:58 | well enough | |
| 04:58 | and you? | |
| 04:58 | Oak | good. |
| 04:58 | same :) | |
| 04:59 | * Brooke | gives Oak a big hug. |
| 04:59 | mtj | i cant explain why my cloned kc.org repo has *different* commit ids than kc.org |
| 05:01 | ive just done a magical 'git fetch origin master' and 'git pull origin master' | |
| 05:01 | i have got the latest commits from kc.org's repo (thats good) .... | |
| 05:02 | yet my commit ids are all different ... wtf? - any explanation peeps :/ | |
| 05:04 | bag | hmmm… no clue.. did you git reset ? |
| 05:04 | that should clear them all out no? | |
| 05:05 | or what are you comparing… gitweb to your commit numbers? maybe gitweb isnt realtime... | |
| 05:06 | last one is a total guess :D | |
| 05:06 | mtj | errr , hmm, the commit string is rewritten as me, too - thats wrogn :/ |
| 05:06 | compare http://git.koha-community.org/[…]0ea1f0b7e09f48e90 | |
| 05:07 | with ...http://git.kohaaloha.com/?p=he[…]e19806ed822bb655e | |
| 05:07 | same commit, but diff commit sha's and diff 'committer' values ?!? | |
| 05:07 | i'm not too sure why that happened... but clearly my repo got borked.. by me ;) | |
| 05:07 | bag | right I totally see it |
| 05:08 | ummm… try reseting or even just cloning a new branch maybe… But I've got no answer on how it got borked ;) | |
| 05:08 | :P | |
| 05:10 | heh sorry I was off looking at pictures of puppies… and then decided to take a break and look in channel… SO I am no help | |
| 05:10 | * bag | totally caught |
| 05:11 | mtj | yeah, i might have done some committer-rename foo on it a while back... no probs |
| 05:12 | eythian | mtj: maybe a rebase at some stage? |
| 05:13 | I think commit IDs should only stay the same if the merge is fast-forward. If you've changed anything, the commit IDs will have to change as they include a reference to the parent. | |
| 05:13 | mtj | hmm, how to get git-log to show 'committer' info too... |
| 05:14 | eythian | mtj: that's what the Author field is |
| 05:14 | mtj | this looks like a nice little 'learning experience' for me... :) |
| 05:15 | eythian: hmmm, author != committer ? | |
| 05:16 | eythian | define what you mean by committer? |
| 05:16 | mtj | like this one... http://git.kohaaloha.com/?p=he[…]e19806ed822bb655e |
| 05:16 | eythian | ah |
| 05:16 | I don't know how to make it show that. | |
| 05:16 | mtj | authorJonathan Druart <jonathan.druartbiblibre.com> |
| 05:16 | committerMason James <mtjkohaaloha.com> |
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| 05:16 | eythian | it's because it was you that put it into the repo. |
| 05:17 | Presumably your branch is different in some point in its history. | |
| 05:17 | mtj | no probs... i'm gonna fiddle some more in this one |
| 05:17 | eythian | If you want to make it match up, git reset kc/master |
| 05:17 | probably with --hard if you don't mind losing whatever the change is. | |
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| 05:22 | mtj | eythian: yep, thats what i was thinking too :) |
| 05:25 | eythian | oh look, this system has duplicate barcodes too. How does that happen? |
| 05:28 | mtj | eythian: ta , the 'git-reset --hard origin/master' worked a charm ;) |
| 05:28 | eythian | cool |
| 05:28 | you'll need to force it when you push it up to your repo | |
| 05:28 | by putting + before the branch name. | |
| 05:28 | (and making sure the server lets you do that) | |
| 05:30 | mtj | ... this also explains why my commit sha's weren't matching last nite with asaurat, too |
| 05:32 | eythian | it's pretty easy for commit IDs to drift. |
| 05:49 | mtj | bah, kc.org repo has 2 dupe commits ? |
| 05:49 | 11 hours agoJonathan DruartBug 5341: Moves the "save" button to the top of the... commit | commitdiff | tree | snapshot | |
| 05:49 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5341 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Serial issues improvements |
| 05:50 | mtj | 12 hours agoJonathan DruartBug 5341: Moves the "save" button to the top of the... new/bug_5341commit | commitdiff | tree | snapshot |
| 05:50 | and it causing me a merge error, i think? | |
| 05:53 | eythian | I shouldn't think it would. |
| 05:53 | mtj | and deleting one of those 2 commits (in my repo) , fixes my problem :/ |
| 05:53 | eythian | Otherwise it would be inconsistent itself |
| 06:04 | mtj | im stumped.. they appear to be identical, but have unique sha's and timestamps ?!? |
| 06:05 | master branch -> http://git.koha-community.org/[…]refs/heads/master | |
| 06:05 | commit 1 -> http://git.koha-community.org/[…]9a8ccbd9403ccd4aa | |
| 06:06 | commit 2 -> http://git.koha-community.org/[…]9a8ccbd9403ccd4aa | |
| 06:06 | both identical commits... sequentially ?!? | |
| 06:07 | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]9a8ccbd9403ccd4aa | |
| 06:08 | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]9a8ccbd9403ccd4aa | |
| 06:08 | with the same parent ? hp=aed0d8a63d5005e1c343def9a8ccbd9403ccd4aa | |
| 06:09 | eythian | it's not too unlikely if they're not all in one branch. |
| 06:11 | mtj | hmm, but they *are* in one branch, the master branch |
| 06:11 | take a look... -> http://git.koha-community.org/[…]refs/heads/master | |
| 06:13 | i dont understand how those 2 dupe commits can apply, in the same branch *sequentically* | |
| 06:13 | ... when they are identical ?!? | |
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| 06:15 | cait | good morning #koha |
| 06:15 | eythian | mtj: no idea, too busy to look into it more at the moment though |
| 06:16 | mtj | no probs i assumed so :) ... im gonna mail the dev list |
| 06:16 | eythian | hi cait |
| 06:17 | cait | hi eythian :) |
| 06:17 | hi mt :) | |
| 06:26 | mtj | email sent... and hi cait ! :) |
| 06:26 | cait | :) |
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| 07:15 | alex_a | bonjour |
| 07:24 | cait | @wunder Marseille |
| 07:24 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 9.0°C (8:04 AM CET on March 14, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.27 in 1025 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:24 | cait | hi alex_a :) |
| 07:29 | eythian | when importing borrowers by CSV, and the data contains '"', what escaping method is understood by koha? |
| 07:33 | cait | hm |
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| 07:33 | reiveune | hello |
| 07:33 | cait | eythian: do I want to ask why borrower data would contain "? |
| 07:34 | eythian | They just have place names in quote marks sometimes. |
| 07:34 | I dunno why, but I don't want to change the data. | |
| 07:35 | cait | I am not sure really |
| 07:35 | eythian | I've tried \" and "" but neither work |
| 07:35 | cait | I think chris_n made it closer to the CSV spec |
| 07:35 | perhaps you can find something there? | |
| 07:35 | eythian | there isn't really any reliable CSV spec. |
| 07:35 | I know far too much about this :) | |
| 07:35 | cjh | heh more csv fun |
| 07:36 | eythian | for now I've changed them to ' but I think next time I'll just produce SQL statements. |
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| 07:48 | cait | eythian: there is a but somewhere, were we discussed some of the weirdness |
| 07:48 | eythian | awesome, I think I have enough stuff in there to be prepared for tomorrow. |
| 07:48 | cait | patron attributes and things, but I am not sure I would be able to find it |
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| 07:48 | eythian | ah right. I'll have to have a look. |
| 07:48 | cait | and I meant bug |
| 07:48 | time for work | |
| 07:48 | eythian | not right now though, flying down south tomorrow morning to do a few hours of "intro to Koha" so that they can test their migration. |
| 07:49 | julian_m | hello |
| 07:49 | cait | bbiab |
| 07:49 | * eythian | goes home |
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| 08:01 | paul_p | good morning #koha |
| 08:03 | mbalmer | g'morning |
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| 08:09 | francharb | Hello! |
| 08:13 | magnuse | kia ora francharb and #koha! |
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| 08:21 | magnuse | bonjour hdl1 |
| 08:33 | * mbalmer | is doing a Lua binding for the new C SIP library |
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| 08:41 | magnuse | guten morgen kf |
| 08:41 | kf | hi #koha |
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| 08:44 | kf | god morgen magnuse |
| 08:44 | magnuse | :-) |
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| 09:25 | mbalmer | woohoo, I can talk to Koha from Lua scripts, using SIP. |
| 09:25 | magnuse | yay |
| 09:31 | mbalmer | for thos interested in SIP from Lua: http://pastebin.com/2qDJarfc |
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| 09:48 | xekhz | hello ppl |
| 09:56 | mbalmer | Bom dia! |
| 09:59 | xekhz | boas |
| 09:59 | e onde es ? | |
| 10:03 | paul_p | good morning xekhz ! |
| 10:04 | kf | morning paul_p |
| 10:06 | mbalmer | more meaningful example: http://pastebin.com/9GJXvyAF |
| 10:07 | xekhz | anyone from the USA |
| 10:08 | pvt me, i need to ask a favor | |
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| 11:48 | jcamins_away | @later tell eythian I think you usw """ to escape quotes in CSV. |
| 11:48 | huginn | jcamins_away: Error: No closing quotation |
| 11:59 | mle | and how do you escape quotes in IRC/huginn? |
| 11:59 | kf | heh |
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| 12:14 | fabio_t | hello #koha! |
| 12:18 | jwagner | hello fabio_t |
| 12:18 | kf | hi fabio_t |
| 12:19 | fabio_t | hi there kf |
| 12:19 | I can't delete patrons... could you help me | |
| 12:19 | ? | |
| 12:20 | mbalmer | you don't have the "Delete" option in the staff client, under the "More" button? |
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| 12:25 | fabio_t | mbalmer: you've given me a clue |
| 12:26 | I've just discovered that this doesn't work only when language is switched to "italian" | |
| 12:26 | patrons' control panel is different too! | |
| 12:27 | thanks mbalmer :) | |
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| 12:27 | fabio_t | I'm going to show you a screenshot |
| 12:28 | kf | fabio_t: did you update your italian frameworks aftre you last update for Koha? |
| 12:29 | fabio_t | hm no kf, do you mean manually? |
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| 12:30 | kf | fabio_t: every time you update koha, you have to regenerate the italian templates |
| 12:31 | fabio_t: koha will only update the english templates - so you have to run a script to take care of any other language. | |
| 12:34 | fabio_t | I'm going to check the wiki and koha.it |
| 12:35 | thanks kf | |
| 12:35 | kf | there is a page on the wiki |
| 12:35 | fabio_t | mbalmer++ |
| 12:35 | kf | about installing new languages |
| 12:35 | there is the command you will need | |
| 12:35 | fabio_t | kf++ |
| 12:35 | thank you | |
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| 12:35 | oleonard | fabio_t: I can confirm that there is a javascript error on that page when using italian templates |
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| 12:36 | oleonard | var is_confirmed = window.confirm(_('Sei sicuro di voler rinnovare l\\'iscrizione di questo utente?')); |
| 12:36 | fabio_t | yes oleonard, confirm deletion dialog never pops up |
| 12:36 | oleonard | Double-escaped apostrophe? |
| 12:37 | mbalmer | tutto bene, niente panico! |
| 12:38 | oleonard | That problem sounds familiar to me, but from where I don't remember |
| 12:38 | fabio_t | tried with .../deletemem.pl?borrowernumber=n in firefox bar too |
| 12:38 | but I didn't achieve anything | |
| 12:38 | :) | |
| 12:39 | that double escape it's quite suspicious | |
| 12:41 | I didn't know I would have to regenerate localized templates with minor release updates | |
| 12:41 | good to know that anyway | |
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| 12:50 | oleonard | fabio_t: Although keep in mind I have confirmed the problem in a freshly-generated set of templates so that's not the cause here |
| 12:51 | Hand-editing the relevant templates would be a temporary fix | |
| 12:51 | fabio_t | I will try it, thanks |
| 12:52 | oleonard++ | |
| 12:52 | oleonard | circ-toolbar.inc and members-toolbar.inc |
| 12:54 | kf | fabio_t: it's a pootle problem/bug |
| 12:54 | fabio_t: probably someone put \' into pootle - but it changes it to \\ which will not work - it's a known problem. best is to avoid \ in general | |
| 12:55 | bug 4883 | |
| 12:55 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4883 trivial, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, chris, RESOLVED FIXED, Problem translating \n (newline) with pootle. |
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| 12:57 | oleonard | Is there anyone here who can comment on the status of the holds rewrite? I saw a lot of Bugzilla activity yesterday |
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| 13:08 | nengard | oleonard we're trying to meet the timeline for feature freeze |
| 13:09 | we had a meeting yesterday to get everyone on the same page - and by 'we' I mean others at ByWater :) | |
| 13:09 | so I don't know the specifics at this time | |
| 13:09 | oleonard | That's good news |
| 13:09 | * oleonard | crosses his fingers |
| 13:09 | nengard | me too!!!! |
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| 13:10 | JesseM | Good Morning All! |
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| 13:15 | kf | nengard: not sure, but is seems big and there is not a lot of time left |
| 13:15 | and feature freeze means you will also have to find someone to sign off on it in time... I think | |
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| 13:20 | fabio_t | oleonard, you were right. I've removed one escape character from italian members-toolbar.inc and now the members' toolbar is displayed fine, and it works as supposed. thanks again, I'm going to understand how to fix it in pootle too |
| 13:20 | oleonard | fabio_t: Be sure to make the same change to circ-toolbar.inc |
| 13:21 | fabio_t | yes, thanks for reminding |
| 13:26 | kf | fabio_t: I think the only way to fix it right now is to remove the ' altogether |
| 13:26 | escaping does not work correctly :( | |
| 13:26 | see bug 4883 | |
| 13:26 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4883 trivial, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, chris, RESOLVED FIXED, Problem translating \n (newline) with pootle. |
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| 13:27 | drojf | good day #koha |
| 13:28 | oleonard | kf: So Pootle can't handle any string with an apostrophe? |
| 13:29 | kf | it can |
| 13:29 | the problem is you can't use \ | |
| 13:29 | because it will escape it again | |
| 13:29 | so not esacping breaks the javascript | |
| 13:29 | oleonard | So don't escape in Pootle and it will be properly escaped |
| 13:30 | kf | escaping it with \ will make pootle think - oh I have to escape that = \\ |
| 13:30 | which will also break the javascript | |
| 13:30 | it doesn't escape ' I think | |
| 13:30 | most of the time we use "" around javascript | |
| 13:30 | which is the reason it does not break more often | |
| 13:31 | so if you just do nothing it will work - but not in this case | |
| 13:33 | drojf | is there a way to make xslt view (like MARC21slim2OPACDetail.xsl) display the "description (opac)" part of an authorized value? |
| 13:34 | kf | first question? |
| 13:34 | wahanui | hmmm... first question is "What are you trying to do?" |
| 13:34 | kf | :) |
| 13:34 | and hi! | |
| 13:34 | drojf | hi kf :) |
| 13:34 | kf | and no, not so easy I think |
| 13:34 | the xslt looks at the marc record | |
| 13:34 | hmmm | |
| 13:35 | perhaps | |
| 13:35 | drojf | we use authorized values heavily for biblio data. like curriculum, "niveaustufe" etc |
| 13:35 | kf | yeah |
| 13:35 | drojf | yes that is my impression too |
| 13:35 | kf | I wonder |
| 13:35 | I think i tdepends on what you write into the record | |
| 13:35 | drojf | i found bug 7379 and 7525 which make me think it is not intended to be working with non-item data at all |
| 13:35 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7379 normal, P3, ---, adrien.saurat, Failed QA , copynumber is displayed 'as is' when linked to autorised values |
| 13:35 | drojf | which is not really what i expected ;) |
| 13:35 | kf | you would have to write the description into the record, not the code |
| 13:35 | item data is not using xslt | |
| 13:36 | pulling from the database | |
| 13:36 | drojf | yes |
| 13:36 | i know | |
| 13:36 | kf | I think it worked for us |
| 13:36 | we have alibrary using an authorized value list for cataloging of subjects into 653 | |
| 13:36 | drojf | but if i can use authorized values for every marc field i kind of expected it would use them correctly too ;) |
| 13:36 | kf | I think the trick is to write the descriotion into the record |
| 13:37 | not the code | |
| 13:37 | else you will have to teach your xslt to translate the codes into descriptions... | |
| 13:40 | hmm | |
| 13:41 | should test that | |
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| 13:50 | fabio_t | so, kf, best thing would be to replace "l\'iscrizione" with "l iscrizione" or another translated sentence without apostrophes, am I right? |
| 13:50 | kf | yes |
| 13:50 | that will sure work | |
| 13:50 | fabio_t | ok |
| 13:50 | kf | it's the only fix I know at the moemnt |
| 13:50 | at the moment | |
| 13:51 | fabio_t | I have to change it at http://translate.koha-community.org/ |
| 13:51 | right? | |
| 13:55 | kf | fabio_t: yes |
| 13:56 | and on next release it will be fixed in the po file | |
| 13:58 | fabio_t | awesome :) |
| 13:59 | now I'm quite busy, I will do it soon though | |
| 14:02 | * paul_p | is hungry of some patch to push ;-) |
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| 14:02 | oleonard | paul_p++ |
| 14:04 | kf | paul_p++ |
| 14:05 | paul_p | hi sekjal I just wrote before you arrived: |
| 14:05 | * paul_p | is hungry of some patch to push ;-) |
| 14:05 | paul_p | so you're welcomed to QA ;-) |
| 14:08 | sekjal | paul_p: I'll see what I can do |
| 14:08 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_7661' <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a937aacad074d7cb5> / 7661 Followup for resolving moved Record test <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]cf61257a835ce02d5> / Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_7031' <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a.git;a=commitdif |
| 14:15 | drojf | zebra question: it appears to me that a search for "q=index:term" does the same as a search for "idx=index&q=term". is there a difference between those two? should i prefer over the other for some reason? |
| 14:15 | s/prefer/prefer one/ | |
| 14:15 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #655 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #644 6 j 21 h ago) |
| 14:16 | hdl1 | prefer the second over the first. |
| 14:16 | jcamins_away | The second is unambiguous. |
| 14:16 | The first is highly ambiguous. | |
| 14:16 | jcamins | So, second is better. |
| 14:16 | drojf | how is the first ambigous? |
| 14:16 | slef | jcamins_away: did you just try to message me or did my IRC client randomly error? |
| 14:17 | jcamins | drojf: What do you want from this search: "su:long subject"? |
| 14:17 | slef: I did not. | |
| 14:17 | I left you a message with huginn a while ago. | |
| 14:17 | slef | I think it was that you just did /nick and made my client collide with an old query window. |
| 14:17 | jcamins | Hehe. |
| 14:17 | drojf | jcamins: find the term "long subject" in all fields indexed as "su" i guess? |
| 14:17 | slef | np |
| 14:18 | jcamins | drojf: I'd guess that too, but we can't be sure. |
| 14:18 | It goes through CCL parsing, which is a horrible, horrible thing. | |
| 14:18 | kf | ah |
| 14:18 | that explains | |
| 14:19 | jcamins | paul_p: you can probably QA and sign off on bug 7656. |
| 14:19 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7656 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha.sekjal, Signed Off , "undefined" pop-up message when putting hold on reference item |
| 14:19 | jcamins | *QA and push |
| 14:20 | drojf | thanks jcamins i'll stick to the second version than. looks cooler too :) |
| 14:20 | kf | bug 7557 - I removed the sign off from rangi when fixing the updatedatabase - should be easy to restest... (I hope it works now) |
| 14:20 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7557 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Needs Signoff , Change hardcoded routing list note into a system preference |
| 14:21 | jcamins | kf: I can't test it right now, but if you remind me how one does a routing list, I'll try. |
| 14:21 | kf | you need a subscription |
| 14:21 | then you go to the serial collection page and create one from there | |
| 14:22 | there is a note field for the subscrption, and the patch adds a general note as sysem preference, removing some hardcoded text | |
| 14:22 | paul_p | oleonard do you hear the plane starting to heat his reactors ? ;-) |
| 14:22 | H-48H before take off ;-) | |
| 14:23 | * oleonard | is going into his customary pre-travel freak-out mode |
| 14:23 | jcamins | oleonard: you should be receiving a package soon. :) |
| 14:23 | kf | oleonard: you will be fine |
| 14:23 | paul_p | customary pre-travel freak-out ??? |
| 14:24 | kf | oleonard: take a cookie and calm down |
| 14:24 | jcamins | paul_p: you don't freak out prior to traveling? |
| 14:24 | kf | oleonard: you can freak when I started to ask you questions :) |
| 14:24 | asaurat | eat more chocolate |
| 14:24 | paul_p | oleonard no, i'm excited ! |
| 14:24 | asaurat | (that's the answer to everything) |
| 14:24 | paul_p | (well, jcamins, not oleonard ;-) ) |
| 14:24 | kf | asaurat: I feel I am going to like you :P |
| 14:24 | in person too I mean | |
| 14:25 | asaurat | hehe, mehr schokolade essen!! |
| 14:25 | paul_p | taking a plane is still something i'm completly amazed to do ! |
| 14:25 | kf | flying is fun :) |
| 14:25 | paul_p | taking off, and, a few hours later being in the other side of the world is something I will never find "common" I think ! |
| 14:25 | oleonard | I don't mind flying at all, I just never think I'm going to be ready in time :) |
| 14:25 | asaurat | flying is fun, but airports are awful |
| 14:25 | drojf | i like flying but every time i sit in a lane i think to myself "that thing is not supposed to be up here" |
| 14:26 | asaurat | :D |
| 14:26 | kf | oleonard: I am not flying this time, but certainly know how you feel |
| 14:26 | paul_p | asaurat it depends. Some airports are better than others. For example, I hate CDG -paris-, I like AMSterdam |
| 14:26 | asaurat | when we'll have flying cars without airports, that will be fine (rumors say it should happen in the year 2000) |
| 14:27 | kf | and I have a written exam on friday... and will only be back for 6hours before going to marseille |
| 14:27 | * kf | panics |
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| 14:27 | paul_p | oleonard and you have a quite long trip to reach the airport if I remember correctly ? (more than 2 hours) |
| 14:27 | jcamins | paul_p: huh. I always freak out about traveling, even after crossing the Atlantic... 6 times in one year. |
| 14:27 | sturmtruppen | hi #koha |
| 14:27 | jcamins | (that was several years ago) |
| 14:27 | paul_p | hi sturmtruppen |
| 14:27 | oleonard | paul_p: 1.5 hours, but we make that trip often so it doesn't concern me |
| 14:28 | paul_p | ok, in my memory it was longer than 1.5 hours |
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| 14:29 | Peter | Howdy, I have a question. |
| 14:29 | drojf | Peter: just ask |
| 14:29 | jcamins | oleonard: you are allowed to open the package in a travelling emergency. :) |
| 14:30 | oleonard | jcamins: Okay, but I don't think there are any desert islands between here and France |
| 14:30 | Guest6234 | How do I set the LCC to be the default organizing method as opposed to the dewey decimal |
| 14:30 | sturmtruppen | i have a timeout error "error: Timeout (ZOOM:10007)". |
| 14:30 | any idea? | |
| 14:30 | kf | what did you do before getting it? |
| 14:31 | Guest6234: look at administration > classification and filing rules | |
| 14:31 | sturmtruppen | zoomsh "connect opac.sbn.it:3950/nopac" "search @attr 1=7 88-11-73896-2" "show 0 1 xml" "quit" |
| 14:31 | command line today... | |
| 14:31 | kf | Guest6234: administration > classification sources |
| 14:31 | and system preference DefaultClassificationSource | |
| 14:32 | and system preference itemcallnumber | |
| 14:32 | jcamins | sturmtruppen: it's not working in Koha? |
| 14:33 | sturmtruppen | yes, in koha it's all ok |
| 14:33 | i have 2000 isbn. how can i insert the data in koha? | |
| 14:33 | wizzyrea | MARCEdit, probably |
| 14:34 | sturmtruppen | i get the data by command line and "filling" the database by a sql |
| 14:34 | is it a possibility? | |
| 14:34 | Guest6234 | I am here: /cgi-bin/koha/admin/classsources.pl |
| 14:34 | jcamins | sturmtruppen: if it's working in Koha, then your command line is wrong. Unfortunately, I don't know that anyone here does a lot of zoomsh work. |
| 14:34 | No. | |
| 14:34 | Guest6234 | and can't find anything |
| 14:35 | can I do it through MARC, just default it to LCC | |
| 14:35 | jcamins | sturmtruppen: you could write a new script, but you can't just insert data using SQL. |
| 14:35 | Guest6234 | ? |
| 14:35 | oleonard | Guest6234: That page doesn't list anything? |
| 14:36 | Guest6234 | no, it lists all the filing types |
| 14:36 | sturmtruppen | jcamins: do you know why i cannot do that? |
| 14:36 | Guest6234 | but I see no place to set the default. |
| 14:36 | oleonard | Guest6234: System preferences -> Cataloging -> DefaultClassificationSource |
| 14:36 | sturmtruppen | ok, i can try to fix the command line |
| 14:37 | oleonard | Guest6234: /cgi-bin/koha/admin/preferences.pl?tab=cataloguing |
| 14:37 | Guest6234 | fantastic |
| 14:37 | thank you | |
| 14:38 | jcamins | sturmtruppen: yes, because it is incredibly prone to error. The data is stored in MARC, and then copied to other places in Koha. If you modify the database directly using SQL, you *will* break your database. |
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| 14:38 | sturmtruppen | ok, understood. bad things! |
| 14:39 | fabio_t | leaving... see you! |
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| 14:42 | Guest6234 | All my patrons have a default fine of $5, how can I change that? |
| 14:47 | drojf | Guest6234: you can set an enrollment fee at administration-patron categories, maybe that's it |
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| 14:56 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #655: STILL UNSTABLE in 40 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/655/ |
| 14:56 | * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7609: Improving links to find analytics and volumes when using UseControlnumber (MARC21) | |
| 14:56 | * juan.sieira: Bug 7261 System Preference to select the first day of week | |
| 14:56 | * m.de.rooy: 7261 Followup to make tests consistent | |
| 14:56 | * paul.poulain: bug 7261 follow-up DBRev number | |
| 14:56 | * jcamins: Bug 7699: Restricted until datepicker broken | |
| 14:56 | * ian.walls: Enh 7031: More options for Advanced Search | |
| 14:56 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7609 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Improving links to find analytics and volumes when using UseControlnumber |
| 14:56 | jenkins_koha | * kyle: Bug 7031 Follow-up: Staff search displays OPAC description instead of the normal description for the authorized values |
| 14:56 | * oleonard: Bug 7031 Follow-up, More options for AdvancedSearchTypes | |
| 14:56 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7261 enhancement, P4, ---, juan.sieira, Pushed to Master , System Preference to select the first day of week (Sunday or Monday) to use in the calendar (OPAC and Intranet) |
| 14:56 | jenkins_koha | * m.de.rooy: 7031 Followup: typo |
| 14:56 | * paul.poulain: Bug 7031 follow-up typo fix & tab removed | |
| 14:56 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7699 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Restricted until datepicker broken |
| 14:56 | jenkins_koha | * m.de.rooy: 7661 Followup for resolving moved Record test |
| 14:56 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7031 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha.sekjal, Pushed to Master , More options for AdvancedSearchTypes |
| 14:57 | sekjal | oleonard: sorry if my actions on bug 5596 were inappropriate |
| 14:57 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5596 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , add author to holds to pull report |
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| 14:58 | oleonard | sekjal: Just a disagreement |
| 14:58 | sekjal | I'm filing a new report to add subtitle to the biblio table, since it seems to be in such high demand |
| 14:58 | wizzyrea | omg please sekjal |
| 14:58 | do that | |
| 14:58 | please please please | |
| 14:58 | I don't know why the subtitle wasn't included in the first place. | |
| 14:59 | sekjal | uniform title is... |
| 14:59 | wizzyrea | would that eliminate the need for keyword-marc mapping? |
| 14:59 | sekjal | and serials title |
| 14:59 | wizzyrea | for subtitle? |
| 14:59 | sekjal | wizzyrea: yes, *for it's current level of usage* |
| 14:59 | wizzyrea | gotcha |
| 14:59 | sekjal | I think the keyword to marc mappings are still REALLY good code, though |
| 14:59 | wizzyrea | oh they are |
| 14:59 | sekjal | just needs to be more thoroughly implemented |
| 14:59 | wizzyrea | *nod* |
| 15:00 | well and documented | |
| 15:00 | "htf do I use this thing" | |
| 15:00 | kf | using more keywords would be cool too |
| 15:00 | for different things | |
| 15:00 | wizzyrea | more keywords would be AWESOME. |
| 15:01 | sekjal | anyone know the UNIMARC field/subfield for subtitle? |
| 15:01 | oleonard | The reason it wasn't included originally I think relates to the original non-MARC structure of Koha 1.x |
| 15:02 | wizzyrea | right, they probably would have just put the whole title in the title. |
| 15:03 | sekjal | there is already an RFC for this: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]nder_of_title_RFC |
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| 15:04 | Morthland | How do I increase the barcode size on my printed labels? |
| 15:09 | wizzyrea | hmm |
| 15:09 | ping chris_n - is changing the size of the barcodes on the labels possible/ | |
| 15:10 | ? | |
| 15:10 | mbalmer | kf? |
| 15:10 | wahanui | kf is cait or really, really sweet. or <reply>she gives me memory loss or a holds expert. |
| 15:10 | Morthland | It is a little small for my reader, as we are printing on Avery 5160 Labels. |
| 15:13 | kf | yes? |
| 15:17 | mbalmer | kf, for the record: I just got information from OCLC that they extended the SIP protocol in their sunrise product to actually get fee details. |
| 15:17 | Morthland | any luck on changing the barcode size |
| 15:17 | mbalmer | but they do it in a strange way, imo, but still. Need to think if Koha should do the same or do it differently (and probably better) |
| 15:18 | kf | mbalmer: I fear, that different ils do it differently because there was some demand for that feature |
| 15:18 | mbalmer: so maybe... it will have to be done in an extension kind of way... | |
| 15:19 | not sure how best to achieve that | |
| 15:19 | mbalmer | yes, I also think every ils does it differently. |
| 15:19 | slef | ungh. Is this enh? A feature for reference item readership statistics gathering, where items check themselves back in as soon as they are issued. Or can it be done in Koha already? |
| 15:19 | kf | mbalmer: it's the problem of every standard I guess |
| 15:19 | * slef | goes to reply to mbalmer while he waits |
| 15:19 | jcamins | slef: ByWater did a development for that. |
| 15:19 | wizzyrea | Morthland: looks like chris_n isn't around at the moment |
| 15:19 | mbalmer | spell "standard" |
| 15:19 | ;) | |
| 15:20 | wizzyrea | slef: I thought there was a statistical patron type for that |
| 15:20 | mbalmer | they defined a field "FI", fee item, that they send in response 63 to a slightly modified request 64 |
| 15:20 | wizzyrea | you check out a book to a statistical patron, it counts it but doesn't actually issue the item and you don't have to retur it |
| 15:20 | return* | |
| 15:20 | sekjal | ^^ |
| 15:20 | * oleonard | hadn't heard of that |
| 15:20 | jcamins | Oh, didn't read too closely. |
| 15:20 | slef | wizzyrea: they want to track which regular patrons read the items, so are looking for a statistical item type. |
| 15:21 | wizzyrea | oh, hm, that's the other way round. |
| 15:21 | sekjal | checking out a book to a statistical patron records stat usage, but doesn't actually check anything out. A cleverly disguised error is returned instead |
| 15:21 | wizzyrea | so you want a statistical *item* that doesn't issue |
| 15:22 | because you want to know who had it | |
| 15:22 | I think I follow now | |
| 15:22 | jcamins | slef: ByWater did not do a development for that. I was thinking of a discharge statistical thingy that sekjal would know about. |
| 15:22 | schuster | slef - there is a patron category for checkout but doesn't actually issue it. |
| 15:22 | wizzyrea | schuster: he wants to know who had a specific item, not just that the item was looked at |
| 15:23 | schuster | I believe it is documented... statistical gathering only or something like that. |
| 15:23 | sekjal | jcamins: we set it up so that checking IN an item not checked out could count as statistical usage |
| 15:23 | wizzyrea | can't do that with a patron type |
| 15:23 | schuster | ah nope. |
| 15:23 | jcamins | paul_p: don't push bug 7444 with your proposed change! |
| 15:23 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7444 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Signed Off , Use T::T date plugin to display dates omnibus |
| 15:23 | wizzyrea | slef I think what you are wanting there is probably not existent in koha right now :( |
| 15:23 | paul_p | jcamins I haven't, it's just a question ! |
| 15:23 | jcamins | Okay. |
| 15:23 | Good. | |
| 15:23 | chris_n | wizzyrea: hi |
| 15:23 | wahanui | niihau, chris_n |
| 15:23 | chris_n | you too wahanui |
| 15:24 | wizzyrea | hey chris_n - Morthland had a question about barcode size in labels - possible to make them bigger? |
| 15:24 | slef | wizzyrea: the statistical patron type (which I had seen) probably means that the code is there, though. |
| 15:24 | paul_p | (jcamins a question before pushing, because something look strange to me, as the patch is supposed to remove format_date() ) |
| 15:24 | wizzyrea | yes, at least partially |
| 15:24 | chris_n | the barcodes are scaled (or at least an an attempt is made to scale them) based on the label size |
| 15:24 | so the simple answer is "no" | |
| 15:25 | the complicated answer is "maybe" | |
| 15:25 | the final answer is "hack the code" | |
| 15:25 | wizzyrea | Morthland: did you see that answer for you? |
| 15:25 | :) thanks chris_n | |
| 15:25 | the final answer? | |
| 15:25 | wahanui | well, the final answer is "hack the code" |
| 15:25 | wizzyrea | love. that. |
| 15:25 | chris_n | heh |
| 15:25 | wizzyrea | the complicated answer? |
| 15:25 | wahanui | well, the complicated answer is "maybe" |
| 15:25 | * wizzyrea | giggles |
| 15:25 | wizzyrea | the simple answer? |
| 15:25 | wahanui | i guess the simple answer is "GO FASTER!" |
| 15:25 | wizzyrea | LOL |
| 15:26 | chris_n | haha |
| 15:26 | * chris_n | has been doing plenty of that :P |
| 15:26 | sekjal | jcamins: your signed off patch on 7444 introduced new changes to C4/Biblio... not sure why |
| 15:26 | wizzyrea | the simple answer is also "no" |
| 15:26 | wahanui | okay, wizzyrea. |
| 15:26 | wizzyrea | the simple answer? |
| 15:26 | wahanui | i heard the simple answer was "GO FASTER!" or "no" |
| 15:27 | Morthland | sorry, I was out. |
| 15:27 | I am reading the history | |
| 15:27 | wizzyrea | :) it's no prob. |
| 15:27 | Morthland | Thanks. |
| 15:28 | jcamins | sekjal: without that line, your patch breaks other parts of Koha. Didn't I note that in the sign off? |
| 15:28 | sekjal | jcamins: only very briefly |
| 15:29 | is it just that the warnings from CanBookBeIssued weren't formatting right anymore? | |
| 15:30 | jcamins | sekjal: yeah, but they showed up all over. |
| 15:30 | sekjal | my patch shouldn't have had any effect outside of circ/circulation.pl |
| 15:31 | jcamins | sekjal: it may just have been in the circulation section, but there were a lot of instances of dates not showing up. |
| 15:32 | Since it was a one-line fix, I went ahead and did it, and -- I thought -- added a note to that effect. | |
| 15:35 | sekjal | jcamins: I appreciate your testing and help. it just wasn't clear to me what I'd missed, and how you fixed it |
| 15:37 | jcamins | sekjal: at some point, the format_date() should be entirely removed, of course, but for right now, this ensures that all the code continues to work. |
| 15:38 | slef | mbalmer: I've had to round-trip sip3 through my office which is :( - I'll let you know when it's ready for download. |
| 15:38 | sekjal | ah, I think I get it... I was trying to format the already formatted reserve date, right? so your change has CanBookBeIssued pass an ISO date, and then has the template use that to format instead |
| 15:39 | slef | wizzyrea: simple answer? |
| 15:39 | wahanui | simple answer is, like, "GO FASTER!" or "no" |
| 15:39 | slef | wizzyrea: the simple answer? |
| 15:39 | wahanui | well, the simple answer is "GO FASTER!" or "no" |
| 15:39 | * wizzyrea | giggles more |
| 15:39 | slef | wahanui: one of us is lagging. I suspect it's me. |
| 15:39 | wahanui | OK, slef. |
| 15:39 | jcamins | sekjal: right. |
| 15:39 | slef | wahanui: you what? |
| 15:39 | wahanui | i heard i was a bot |
| 15:39 | * wizzyrea | thanks chris_n for those little gems in wahanui's database. |
| 15:40 | wizzyrea | the complicated answer? |
| 15:40 | wahanui | the complicated answer is "maybe" |
| 15:40 | slef | wahanui: are you one of us? |
| 15:40 | wahanui | slef: wish i knew |
| 15:40 | slef | wahanui: one of us? |
| 15:40 | wahanui | i think one of us is lagging. I suspect it's me. |
| 15:40 | slef | wahanui: forget one of us |
| 15:40 | wahanui | slef: I forgot one of us |
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| 15:41 | mbalmer | slef, many thanks |
| 15:42 | Morthland | Does the auto-barcode function not actually work? |
| 15:42 | slef | wahanui: One of us is crying, One of us is lying in her lonely bed, staring at the ceiling, wishing she was somewhere else instead |
| 15:42 | wahanui | OK, slef. |
| 15:42 | slef | Morthland: it works FSVO works. |
| 15:43 | wizzyrea | one of us? |
| 15:43 | wahanui | one of us is crying, One of us is lying in her lonely bed, staring at the ceiling, wishing she was somewhere else instead |
| 15:43 | * wizzyrea | nods |
| 15:43 | slef | FSVO? |
| 15:43 | wahanui: FSVO is For Some Values Of | |
| 15:43 | wahanui | OK, slef. |
| 15:43 | Morthland | I don't get that. |
| 15:44 | slef | Morthland: it works but it is easy to break it or want something more than it offers. |
| 15:44 | wizzyrea: I suppose it's not good to teach wahanui abba songs. | |
| 15:44 | Morthland | is it better to input our own? |
| 15:45 | wizzyrea | slef: I think of it as making him more human. |
| 15:45 | ;) | |
| 15:45 | eventually he'll become sentient | |
| 15:45 | slef | Morthland: it depends what you want. |
| 15:45 | wizzyrea: or suffer a mental collapse. | |
| 15:45 | * wizzyrea | has seen his database |
| 15:46 | Morthland | well, I don't suppose we know exactly what we want |
| 15:46 | right now I have it set | |
| 15:46 | wizzyrea | considering how hilarious *we* are, it's no surprise that he's hilarious too. |
| 15:46 | Morthland | Librarycode yymm#### |
| 15:46 | for example: | |
| 15:46 | MCL12030001 | |
| 15:46 | but it only gives me MCL12030001 automatically, never MCL12030002, etc. | |
| 15:48 | slef | Morthland: have you already got a MCL12030001? |
| 15:48 | Morthland | yes |
| 15:51 | slef | @query autobarcode librarycode |
| 15:51 | huginn | slef: No results for "autobarcode librarycode." |
| 15:51 | slef | @query autobarcode |
| 15:51 | huginn | slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4175 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , duplicate items does not obey autoBarcode sys pref |
| 15:51 | slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4304 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , autoBarcode should increment from user defind value | |
| 15:51 | slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6981 critical, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , barcode not incrementing | |
| 15:51 | slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7068 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , autobarcode not working when duplicating patrons | |
| 15:51 | jcamins | 6981 looks like it might be the one you want. |
| 15:52 | slef | Morthland: see if it's similar to one of those and if not, report it as a new bug? |
| 15:53 | Morthland | it is similar, but all that is over my head. I just barely got koha deployed |
| 15:54 | slef | @query statistical |
| 15:54 | huginn | slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3092 normal, P1 - high, ---, frederic, NEW , Data values storage and use 100 bug meta-bug |
| 15:54 | slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3309 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Deleting authorized values when data exists | |
| 15:54 | slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3311 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Statistical reports should error if row and column aren't selected | |
| 15:54 | slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3202 minor, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, koha.sekjal, Pushed to Master , Creating new "child" category patrons - library not defaulting to the correct branch | |
| 15:54 | slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6403 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, koha.sekjal, Pushed to Master , Record local use stats when checking in | |
| 15:54 | slef | @query statistical type |
| 15:54 | huginn | slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3092 normal, P1 - high, ---, frederic, NEW , Data values storage and use 100 bug meta-bug |
| 15:54 | slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3202 minor, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, koha.sekjal, Pushed to Master , Creating new "child" category patrons - library not defaulting to the correct branch | |
| 15:54 | slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6403 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, koha.sekjal, Pushed to Master , Record local use stats when checking in | |
| 15:55 | slef | nah bug 6981 looks like it's for the naked numeric autobarcode not the librarycode version. So I'd report it as a new bug if I were you Morthland |
| 15:55 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6981 critical, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , barcode not incrementing |
| 15:56 | sekjal | out for lunch. back later |
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| 15:58 | Morthland | allright, thank you slef. |
| 16:00 | slef | "There is no keyword named 'statistical'. The legal keyword names are listed here." Well screw you Bugzilla, I won't put any keywords in if you're going to throw nasty red errors at me. |
| 16:02 | wizzyrea | hrmph. |
| 16:07 | reiveune | bye |
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| 16:29 | kf | timeto leave :) bye all |
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| 16:38 | dgl-library | Hi #koha |
| 16:38 | * wizzyrea | waves |
| 16:39 | dgl-library | Hi Wizzyrea |
| 16:39 | I'd like to ask a question about preprinted barcode labels: | |
| 16:39 | We'd like to order some from http://www.budgetlibrarysuppli[…]files/Barcode.htm and they need to know the start number, the symbology (Code 39 or Codabar), and if there is a check digit on the labels. | |
| 16:39 | …………No idea………… | |
| 16:40 | jcamins | dgl-library: where are you located? |
| 16:40 | dgl-library | India |
| 16:40 | wizzyrea | you are just putting them on the books/ |
| 16:40 | first time ever? | |
| 16:40 | dgl-library | yes, for the first time ever. and also thought we'd use them on the back of people's ID cards as library-card numbers as well, if that's possible |
| 16:40 | wizzyrea | sure it's possible. |
| 16:40 | jcamins | dgl-library: in that case, you'll want to ask what the local standard is for libraries in India. |
| 16:41 | wizzyrea | do you have your scanners already? |
| 16:41 | (most of them can be programmed to read whatever | |
| 16:41 | dgl-library | no, looking at ordering one from amazon |
| 16:41 | wizzyrea | (easily) |
| 16:41 | I would stay away from check-digits | |
| 16:41 | dgl-library | what's a check digit? |
| 16:41 | jcamins | dgl-library: the short answer is, you can get whatever kind you want, but it's best to follow the regional standard, whatever that is. |
| 16:42 | Sadly indradg isn't around. | |
| 16:42 | Nor kmkale. | |
| 16:42 | dgl-library | jcamins: we're not going to do any interlibrary loans, it's basically a school library |
| 16:42 | wizzyrea | ^^ though, regional standard... it varies from ILS to ILS |
| 16:42 | some ILS's make you buy specific barcodes | |
| 16:42 | koha, however, does not | |
| 16:42 | jcamins | dgl-library: I'd still recommend trying to adhere to the regional standard. |
| 16:42 | dgl-library: it gives you more options for the future. | |
| 16:42 | dgl-library | hmm, anyone here from India today? |
| 16:43 | wizzyrea | it's the middle of the night I think? |
| 16:43 | dgl-library | yes, 10:13pm |
| 16:43 | wizzyrea | yea no we almost never get people from india this time of day |
| 16:43 | oh you're in one of the crazy half hour timezones | |
| 16:43 | how fun | |
| 16:44 | dgl-library | excuse me, perhaps the rest of the world is half an hour off…! :) |
| 16:44 | wizzyrea | is 11:43am here |
| 16:44 | wahanui | dgl-library: the xy axis in the trackball is coordinated with the summer solstice |
| 16:44 | oleonard | wahanui: Wha? |
| 16:44 | wahanui | oleonard: bugger all, i dunno |
| 16:45 | dgl-library | wizzyrea: so as far as koha is concerned, it doesn't matter |
| 16:45 | wizzyrea | right |
| 16:45 | oleonard: I was wondering where he came up with that | |
| 16:45 | dgl-library | jcamins: I'm doing some web searching to see what the standard is… but very little in this country is standardized :) |
| 16:45 | wizzyrea | yea, I would probably go for longer numbers over shorter one |
| 16:45 | s | |
| 16:45 | nekls uses 13 digig | |
| 16:46 | digit* | |
| 16:46 | avoid checkdigits, and make sure your scanner is compatible with whatever you buy | |
| 16:46 | * jcamins | tends to be a fan of the checkdigit, but he will defer to wizzyrea on this. |
| 16:46 | dgl-library | still not clear on what a check digit is |
| 16:46 | wizzyrea | when migrating, checkdigits cause no end of trouble. |
| 16:47 | either you can't get them out properly, or you can't get them in. | |
| 16:47 | jcamins | wizzyrea: really? That's idiotic. |
| 16:47 | wizzyrea | yes. yes it is. |
| 16:47 | plus then you have to teach your scanner to read them properly | |
| 16:47 | and you lose the manual and the scanner goes stupid | |
| 16:48 | jcamins | wizzyrea: really? Our scanner just read them right out of the box. |
| 16:48 | wizzyrea | it probably depends on the scanner. |
| 16:48 | jcamins | wizzyrea: the benefit of checkdigits is you can have a report to check whether your interns are using the barcode scanner correctly. |
| 16:49 | wizzyrea | I have 40 libraries that we've moved into koha, by far the ones that were the most dramatic had checkdigits on their barcodes. We rebarcoded 2 libraries because of it. |
| 16:49 | jcamins | Ick. |
| 16:49 | As I said, I like checkdigits, but listen to wizzyrea. | |
| 16:49 | wizzyrea | yes. 20k item libraries. it was not fun. |
| 16:49 | and koha doesn't care about any of that | |
| 16:49 | really. | |
| 16:50 | dgl-library | wizzyrea: any favorite barcode scanners under $150 or so? |
| 16:50 | wizzyrea | we learned the hard way that the very cheap ones, you get what you pay for. |
| 16:50 | slow reads, no reads | |
| 16:50 | jcamins | This is true. |
| 16:50 | wizzyrea | excessive jiggling |
| 16:51 | to get it to read | |
| 16:51 | so we buy ones that are slightly more than 150, let me see if I can find out what they are | |
| 16:51 | dgl-library | ≤$150 = cheap? |
| 16:51 | thanks | |
| 16:51 | wizzyrea | sadly, yes |
| 16:51 | oleonard | We will have no excessive jiggling in this library thank you very much |
| 16:52 | jcamins | There are some in the $150 range that are decent. |
| 16:52 | dgl-library | jcamins: I'm all ears |
| 16:52 | jcamins | dgl-library: I'm trying to find it. |
| 16:52 | wizzyrea | these are the ones we buy: |
| 16:52 | http://www.barcodesinc.com/honeywell/3800g.htm | |
| 16:52 | they're not always that expensive, shop around | |
| 16:53 | (I just googled and picked a product page from some shop. I'm sure they can be found cheaper) | |
| 16:53 | dgl-library | thank you |
| 16:53 | wizzyrea | some as cheap as 132 on the googles |
| 16:53 | no idea what it would cost to ship tho | |
| 16:54 | dgl-library | was originally going to go with one of the ones with a 4.5-star rating on amazon — $36 or $52 |
| 16:54 | jcamins | That's the one. |
| 16:54 | dgl-library | have you ever tried one of the contact CCD scanners rather than the laser scanners? |
| 16:54 | jcamins | I think we spent $140 on it. |
| 16:54 | wizzyrea | jcamins those are the ones you buy too> |
| 16:54 | ? | |
| 16:54 | jcamins | dgl-library: yes. You don't want those. |
| 16:54 | wizzyrea: right. | |
| 16:55 | wizzyrea | cool :) |
| 16:55 | jcamins | wizzyrea: It was a lengthy process to figure out that the variety of scanner I bought is the exact same one you just shared. ;) |
| 16:56 | dgl-library: the contact scanners -- at least the cheap ones -- require a great deal of patience. | |
| 16:57 | dgl-library | jcamins: quite right. |
| 16:57 | jcamins: I only got interested in the contact scanners because this one got consistently good reviews http://www.amazon.com/Handheld[…]17/dp/B002ATOSJ8/ | |
| 16:58 | but now will try to get a good price on the Honeywell 3800g | |
| 16:59 | jcamins | dgl-library: I'd be interested to know whether that one requires as much patience as the other CCD scanners I'd tried, but I am not inclined to spend money on it. ;) |
| 17:00 | dgl-library | what about a stand? necessary to prevent damage? |
| 17:00 | jcamins | I like stands. |
| 17:00 | They make it faster. | |
| 17:01 | wizzyrea | I've had libraries buy the cheap ones |
| 17:01 | and they always end up replacing them with the better ones | |
| 17:02 | dgl-library | according to POSguys.com "The Honeywell 3800g barcode scanner has reached end of life. The Hyperion 1300g is its replacement." |
| 17:02 | http://www.posguys.com/barcode[…]=3800G14-SERKIT1E | |
| 17:02 | wizzyrea | bummer. |
| 17:02 | dgl-library | still available, though |
| 17:03 | jcamins | Presumably the replacement is similar, though. |
| 17:03 | dgl-library | so to sum up: honeywell scanner and any kind of barcode as long as it doesn |
| 17:03 | doesn't have the Dreaded Checkdigit | |
| 17:04 | wizzyrea | well it will do checkdigits too, I just don't really recommend using the checkdigit. |
| 17:04 | dgl-library | and can we use these barcodes for library card ID numbers as well? |
| 17:04 | wizzyrea | sure, as long as each one is unique |
| 17:04 | jcamins | dgl-library: you just have to make sure the barcodes are all unique. |
| 17:05 | dgl-library | at checkin/out will koha know what's what? |
| 17:05 | wizzyrea | yep |
| 17:05 | as long as they are unique | |
| 17:05 | so don't put 31000202002221 in as both an item | |
| 17:05 | and a patron | |
| 17:05 | wahanui | i heard a patron was already there trying to checkout... can't say to them "oh, sorry, this is on hold for someone else" |
| 17:05 | wizzyrea | for example |
| 17:05 | forget a patron | |
| 17:05 | wahanui | wizzyrea: I forgot patron |
| 17:06 | dgl-library | I understand |
| 17:06 | thanks so much—I need to sign off now though | |
| 17:06 | will go ahead and buy quality. thanks for the tips again. | |
| 17:06 | wizzyrea | sure, have a good night. :) |
| 17:06 | dgl-library | cheers |
| 17:09 | wizzyrea | from the amazon review of that scanner he linked: "My other problem is every so often the scanner will misscan/misread for whatever reason and it won't activate again until I pull the cable from the USB port then re-plug it back in. The booklet doesn't explain this problem at all. I had to do my own troubleshooting which took a few hours." |
| 17:09 | this is what we were seeing | |
| 17:09 | and it is *annoying* | |
| 17:09 | simple fix, but shouldn't happen. | |
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| 17:55 | wizzyrea | local cover images - they are compatible with the other cover image types |
| 17:55 | so if you have say, a local newspaper | |
| 17:55 | you can add an image? | |
| 17:55 | that's for you jcamin | |
| 17:55 | jcamins | wizzyrea: sure. |
| 17:55 | wizzyrea | and it will display? |
| 17:56 | in opac and staff? | |
| 17:56 | jcamins | wizzyrea: yes, but so will the Amazon cover image. |
| 17:56 | wizzyrea | so, if you get a "no image" |
| 17:56 | it will say "no image" and show your local image | |
| 17:56 | * jcamins | just jQueries the no image thing away. |
| 17:56 | jcamins | Right. |
| 17:56 | wizzyrea | aha |
| 17:56 | share the jquery? | |
| 17:56 | or is it already shared? | |
| 17:57 | jcamins | I think it's already on the jquery library. |
| 17:57 | jquery library? | |
| 17:57 | wahanui | jquery library is found at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ki/JQuery_Library |
| 17:57 | wizzyrea | ok cool |
| 17:57 | ty | |
| 17:57 | jcamins | Hm. |
| 17:57 | Not seeing it. | |
| 17:57 | $('.no-image').hide(); | |
| 17:59 | wizzyrea | brilliant, thx |
| 18:01 | maximep | trying to understand if bug 6598 is in master or not. The status says Pushed to Master, but there's no comment and not sure if the first or second patch was pushed :S |
| 18:01 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6598 normal, P3, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , OPACFineNoRenewals syspreference does not stop user renewing in opac |
| 18:03 | jcamins | maximep: git log origin/master | less [wait for command to run] /6598<Enter>n[repeat last as necessary] |
| 18:03 | * oleonard | was trying "git log --oneline|grep 6598" |
| 18:03 | jcamins | oleonard: ooh, that's even better. |
| 18:03 | maximep | yeah... but I don't have a git clone on my machine |
| 18:04 | I really should | |
| 18:04 | oleonard | jcamins: That one comes from paul_p |
| 18:04 | maximep | isn't there a log of status changes in bz ? |
| 18:04 | wizzyrea | history |
| 18:05 | maximep | oh, cool |
| 18:05 | * wizzyrea | only learned that last week |
| 18:05 | maximep | pushed to master rel 3_6. nice! |
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| 18:21 | oleonard | I am frequently surprised to find bugs in Bugzilla I've never seen before. I always think I've seen them all. |
| 18:21 | wizzyrea | lol |
| 18:24 | jcamins | oleonard: there are more bugs in C4::Search than any one person could find in a lifetime. |
| 18:24 | oleonard | Yeah, but they're not all in Bugzilla :) |
| 18:24 | wizzyrea | AREN'T THEY |
| 18:25 | j/k | |
| 18:25 | jcamins | oleonard: true, but if people report them, it's just a matter of time until someone reports a bug you've never encountered before. |
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| 18:25 | Morthland1 | Howdy |
| 18:25 | wahanui | what's up, Morthland1 |
| 18:25 | Morthland1 | Not much. |
| 18:25 | Trying to figure out how to enter in the author name for a book that a z39.50 search doesn't work on. | |
| 18:26 | I'm at field 100 | |
| 18:26 | I think it ought to be 100a | |
| 18:26 | but it won't let me input | |
| 18:28 | jcamins | Morthland1: you probably need to change BiblioAddsAuthorities to "Allow." |
| 18:28 | You know, I'm not sure that having it default to "Don't allow" makes so much sense. | |
| 18:28 | Survey of questionable validity: how many people use Koha with BiblioAddsAuthorities to "Don't allow"? | |
| 18:28 | Morthland1 | that a system pref under cataloging? |
| 18:28 | oleonard | jcamins: Maybe the question should be whether the default framework should be designed to work with authorities? |
| 18:28 | slef | I think those with good authority files do, and some more would if adding authorities wasn't such an interruption to the workflow |
| 18:29 | oleonard | Removing the link in the framework is a solution for libraries who don't use authorities (like us) |
| 18:29 | Morthland1 | I don't really get what authorities do. |
| 18:29 | slef | Morthland1: stop people cataloguing the same author under 172 slightly different spellings/expansions/transliterations. |
| 18:29 | jcamins | oleonard: I think the framework should work with authorities by default, but maybe have that set to "Allow," since most libraries start out not using it, I think. |
| 18:30 | slef | Morthland1: it says "this is the authoritative spelling of this name" |
| 18:30 | Morthland1 | where can I input authorities? |
| 18:30 | jcamins | Morthland1: in the "Authorities" module. :) |
| 18:30 | slef | IIRC it comes up hard against z39.50 importing :-/ |
| 18:31 | so if you import lots, you might prefer BiblioAddsAuthorities | |
| 18:31 | Morthland1 | Of course ;) |
| 18:31 | I'm a total rookie. | |
| 18:31 | jcamins | slef: right. That's why I think it should be set to "Allow" by default. |
| 18:32 | There are very few libraries that do original cataloging exclusively. | |
| 18:33 | Morthland1 | We have about 5000 books without isbns, etc. |
| 18:33 | slef | jcamins_away: z39.50 is such a big selling point, I think it's a good argument. |
| 18:33 | * slef | tries a git pull |
| 18:33 | slef | let's see if I get that duplicated commit others are talking about |
| 18:33 | Morthland1 | is it best just to enter those in in MARC? there's no other way to get the job done, right? |
| 18:33 | slef | Morthland1: you could search z39.50 on author/title and import |
| 18:34 | jcamins | slef: Thanks. |
| 18:34 | * wizzyrea | finally got that package install upgraded. Wowie, slick. |
| 18:34 | Morthland1 | will that get any more responses? |
| 18:35 | slef | Morthland1: depends who you are searching, but at least you stand a chance, whereas searching for a blank isbn probably returns nothing doesn't it? |
| 18:35 | jcamins | Morthland1: if the books are in LC (or whichever database you're looking in), they'll show up. |
| 18:37 | wizzyrea | jcamins didn't you do, ages ago, some hack where you showed a different "no cover image" graphic with the title on it for numismatics? |
| 18:37 | or was it just a different no cover image graphic. | |
| 18:38 | * wizzyrea | looks at donum.numismatics.org, ah how far we've come. |
| 18:38 | oleonard | wizzyrea: I tested that option when we first implemented book cover images |
| 18:38 | wizzyrea | http://donum.numismatics.org/c[…]-search.pl?q=coin |
| 18:38 | oleonard | ...I think based on LibraryThing's example? |
| 18:38 | wizzyrea | ah yes |
| 18:38 | this | |
| 18:39 | jcamins | wizzyrea: oh, that is on the jquery library. |
| 18:39 | wizzyrea | bless you kind sir |
| 18:39 | jcamins | wizzyrea: I thought you were looking to not show any image at all. |
| 18:39 | wizzyrea | a little from column a, a little from column b |
| 18:39 | exploring one or the other of those options. | |
| 18:39 | * magnuse | waves |
| 18:40 | wizzyrea | hey magnuse |
| 18:40 | magnuse | kia ora wizzyrea |
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| 18:43 | magnuse | guten abend cait |
| 18:45 | cait | guten abend magnuse |
| 18:45 | hi #koha | |
| 18:45 | oleonard | @wunder 45701 |
| 18:45 | huginn | oleonard: The current temperature in Ohio University, Athens, Ohio is 24.0°C (2:40 PM EDT on March 14, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 35%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.97 in 1014.8 hPa (Steady). |
| 18:46 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
| 18:46 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 1.0°C (7:20 PM CET on March 14, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: -5.0°C. Windchill: -5.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Falling). |
| 18:46 | magnuse | @wunder marseille |
| 18:46 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 12.0°C (7:30 PM CET on March 14, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026 hPa (Steady). |
| 18:46 | magnuse | ooh, getting better |
| 18:46 | jcamins | @wunder 11375 |
| 18:46 | huginn | jcamins: The current temperature in APRSWXNET Jackson Heights NY US, Corona, New York is 20.0°C (2:12 PM EDT on March 14, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 18%. Dew Point: -5.0°C. Pressure: 30.08 in 1018.5 hPa. |
| 18:47 | slef | @wunder dersingham |
| 18:47 | huginn | slef: The current temperature in APRSWXNET Dersingham UK, Sculthorpe, United Kingdom is 5.6°C (6:33 PM GMT on March 14, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 85%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.40 in 1029.3 hPa. |
| 18:47 | wizzyrea | @wunder 66059 |
| 18:47 | huginn | wizzyrea: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 18:47 | wizzyrea | @wunder 66049 |
| 18:47 | huginn | wizzyrea: The current temperature in Near Free State High, Lawrence, Kansas is 27.8°C (1:46 PM CDT on March 14, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 20%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Pressure: 28.80 in 975.2 hPa (Falling). |
| 18:47 | wizzyrea | oh boy. |
| 18:47 | magnuse | wow, that's *hot*! |
| 18:47 | wizzyrea | *nod* |
| 18:48 | oleonard | Weird weather. |
| 18:49 | maximep | @wunder cyqb |
| 18:49 | huginn | maximep: The current temperature in Quebec, Quebec is -2.0°C (2:41 PM EDT on March 14, 2012). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: N/A%. Windchill: -8.0°C. Pressure: (Rising). |
| 18:49 | maximep | soooooooooo much ice. Everything is covered in it. Fuuuuuuun. |
| 18:50 | * magnuse | wonders if that was irony or not |
| 18:50 | jcamins | Hehe. |
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| 18:51 | * jcamins | heads back to Forest Hills. |
| 18:51 | magnuse | run to the hills! |
| 18:55 | rangi | Morning |
| 18:55 | cait | morning :) |
| 18:55 | magnuse | ata marie rangi |
| 19:01 | Morthland | My barcodes aren't showing up anymore |
| 19:01 | slef | morning |
| 19:02 | I think I'm being dense. What's the quickest way in C4 calls to get (a) barcode(s) for a classmark (ideally checked-in)? | |
| 19:03 | cait | what is a classmark? |
| 19:03 | slef | shelfmark |
| 19:03 | callnumber | |
| 19:03 | wizzyrea | call number? |
| 19:03 | wahanui | i heard call number was in the location |
| 19:03 | slef | I'll get the right jargon eventually :) |
| 19:03 | (we could do with an authority file...) | |
| 19:04 | rangi: by the way, have you got experience getting data out of C2? ;) | |
| 19:04 | Morthland | My barcodes no longer show up in print. |
| 19:04 | They are there on the items | |
| 19:04 | rangi | Oh hey slef call for papers? |
| 19:04 | slef | rangi: yeah I know I know, need to do that within 7 days. |
| 19:04 | Morthland | but when I make a batch in label maker, they do not show up |
| 19:04 | rangi | Yep 13, years ago |
| 19:05 | It's or was a pick based system | |
| 19:05 | magnuse | c2 is what hlt had before koha? |
| 19:05 | and c4 is twice as good? | |
| 19:05 | rangi | Yep |
| 19:05 | cait | :) |
| 19:05 | rangi | Or might explode |
| 19:05 | magnuse | yay, i learned my history lesson :-) |
| 19:05 | slef | rangi: might talk to you about it later, depending if they come back. |
| 19:06 | (later = days not hours) | |
| 19:06 | rangi | Slef: Olwen did most of it she lurks on the list still |
| 19:06 | cait | slef: booked flight and hotel for scotland now :) |
| 19:07 | rangi | Me too |
| 19:07 | * slef | returns to stumbling around the API looking for this callnumber->barcode method |
| 19:07 | slef | I really should book a hotel before you take them all :) |
| 19:07 | cait | you should :) |
| 19:07 | oleonard | Is there a shortcut to immediately squash a new commit into the previous one? |
| 19:07 | Morthland | Anybody know about this barcode issue? |
| 19:08 | wizzyrea | Morthland: I'm not clear on what your issue actually is |
| 19:08 | Morthland | My items have barcodes |
| 19:08 | but when I go to add them to a batch, | |
| 19:08 | under barcode it shows:NA | |
| 19:09 | wizzyrea | did you change your layout? |
| 19:09 | Morthland | I had. |
| 19:09 | Changed it back. | |
| 19:10 | slef | do I really have to do SimpleSearch followed by GetBiblioItemData? I thought I had an easier way once upon a time :-/ |
| 19:10 | rangi | Look in items.pm |
| 19:10 | magnuse | oleonard: sounds like it would be handy to make a shortcut for git rebase -i HEAD~2 |
| 19:11 | slef | oleonard: sounds like something git rebase can do |
| 19:11 | rangi: I am. I must be blind :( | |
| 19:11 | wizzyrea | Morthland: how did you change it |
| 19:11 | maybe try creating a new layout. | |
| 19:12 | Morthland | well, when I am actually adding them to a batch it says NA |
| 19:12 | wizzyrea | spaces on the end? |
| 19:13 | maybe they're not indexed? | |
| 19:13 | can you search for your books in the catalog? | |
| 19:13 | Morthland | let me try it |
| 19:14 | yup, | |
| 19:14 | they show up in catalog. | |
| 19:14 | Would spaces on the end break it, | |
| 19:14 | slef | biab |
| 19:14 | Morthland | because that's possible. |
| 19:15 | wizzyrea | mm no, I just tried it with spaces on the end. it seems to work |
| 19:15 | however | |
| 19:15 | spaces on the fron | |
| 19:15 | front | |
| 19:15 | or an empty line in the list | |
| 19:15 | will break it | |
| 19:16 | and really, only spaces on the front | |
| 19:16 | empty lines are fine. | |
| 19:16 | Morthland | what are empty lines? |
| 19:16 | wahanui | empty lines are fine. |
| 19:17 | wizzyrea | http://screencast.com/t/5Le9Y2FAtFz |
| 19:17 | space on the front: http://screencast.com/t/xsSXnF12k | |
| 19:18 | Morthland | Let me show you what I mean |
| 19:20 | oleonard | wahanui: forget empty lines |
| 19:20 | wahanui | oleonard: I forgot empty lines |
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| 19:21 | wizzyrea | oops |
| 19:21 | Morthland | http://www.screencast.com/user[…]9221-b4899a04db32 |
| 19:21 | wizzyrea | what version are you using? |
| 19:21 | Morthland | 3.02 |
| 19:22 | wizzyrea | I get some of those too... but i'll have to check and see if it's because they really don't have barcodes. |
| 19:22 | I wonder if your zebra cron is running | |
| 19:22 | because I tihnk that uses the zebra indexes to search | |
| 19:22 | and if it hasn't been updated since you added the barcode | |
| 19:22 | it would show NA | |
| 19:23 | http://screencast.com/t/HxFzaNgSZ | |
| 19:23 | yea, I have 2 items of brown bear that do not have barcodes. | |
| 19:23 | so that's "normal" for me | |
| 19:25 | Morthland | How do I check Zebra? |
| 19:25 | wizzyrea | crontab -e |
| 19:26 | you will see a rebuild_zebra.pl -b -z (or somesuch) | |
| 19:26 | Morthland | as a terminal command? |
| 19:26 | wizzyrea | yes |
| 19:26 | if your cron is scheduled and set up | |
| 19:26 | you'll see lots of stuff, actually. | |
| 19:28 | Morthland | I see not much of anything |
| 19:28 | wizzyrea | yup, sounds like at the very least you'll need to run a rebuild_zebra.pl -b -z |
| 19:29 | Morthland | as a terminal command? |
| 19:29 | wizzyrea | yes |
| 19:29 | Morthland | Everything in chron is commented out |
| 19:29 | ok | |
| 19:29 | wizzyrea | you could also just uncomment the rebuild_zebra line, if it's in there |
| 19:29 | and wait for it's interval | |
| 19:29 | I forget what the default interval is | |
| 19:29 | Morthland | where is rebuild_zebra.pl? |
| 19:30 | wizzyrea | git or standard install? |
| 19:30 | http://koha-community.org/?qa_[…]b-a-r-whats-wrong | |
| 19:30 | aksi tgus | |
| 19:30 | also this* | |
| 19:33 | * oleonard | is excited to show off Bug 7719 |
| 19:33 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7719 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Change state of controls based on whether boxes are checked |
| 19:33 | wizzyrea | oooo |
| 19:34 | cait | :) |
| 19:34 | wizzyrea | hmmm it thinks there's a merge conflict |
| 19:34 | cait | oleonard: lots of ideas for marseille? :) |
| 19:35 | wizzyrea | in opac.css |
| 19:35 | Morthland | 36 2 14 3 * rebuild_zebra.pl -b -z |
| 19:35 | something like that work | |
| 19:35 | ? | |
| 19:35 | oleonard | wizzyrea: Huh, that was fast :P |
| 19:35 | Morthland | total rookie. |
| 19:35 | wizzyrea | yep |
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| 19:35 | Morthland | would that do it like a minute from now? |
| 19:36 | wizzyrea | looks like whitespace |
| 19:36 | no biggie | |
| 19:36 | * wizzyrea | will fix |
| 19:36 | oleonard | Thanks. git is really bad at merging CSS for some reason |
| 19:36 | wizzyrea | there we go. |
| 19:36 | Morthland | how long would that take to fix it? |
| 19:38 | I'm looking at something like this: http://www.screencast.com/user[…]9801-47563e730e81 | |
| 19:38 | and then this | |
| 19:38 | http://www.screencast.com/user[…]acd4-32f2a9c43656 | |
| 19:39 | wizzyrea | oleonard: it still shows them as available when you are logged out |
| 19:39 | but works as intended when you are logged in | |
| 19:39 | oleonard | *grumble* |
| 19:39 | wizzyrea | also, that looks so nice. |
| 19:40 | at least, placing holds from the cart | |
| 19:40 | sorry :( | |
| 19:41 | cait | wizzyrea: zealot? |
| 19:41 | wizzyrea | @google define zealot |
| 19:41 | huginn | wizzyrea: Zealot | Define Zealot at Dictionary.com: <http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/zealot>; Zealotry | Define Zealotry at Dictionary.com: <http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/zealotry>; zealot - definition of zealot by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus ...: <http://www.thefreedictionary.com/zealot>; Zealots - definition of Zealots by the Free Online Dictionary ...: (2 more messages) |
| 19:42 | wizzyrea | :) |
| 19:42 | cait | it was more like... how did you get those tiles together! |
| 19:42 | ? | |
| 19:42 | heh | |
| 19:42 | wizzyrea | hehe |
| 19:42 | yes, I was surprised too | |
| 19:42 | lucky I guess. | |
| 19:46 | cait | :) |
| 19:47 | oleonard | wizzyrea: I'm not sure what problem you're seeing. Can you explain? |
| 19:47 | wizzyrea | ye[ |
| 19:47 | yep | |
| 19:47 | hm, interesting | |
| 19:47 | the 2nd time I tried it, it worked right. | |
| 19:47 | after I had logged in | |
| 19:48 | and logged out again | |
| 19:48 | Morthland | anyone have any ideas on this, |
| 19:48 | * wizzyrea | clears cookies |
| 19:48 | Morthland | I still have no barcodes |
| 19:48 | * wizzyrea | doesn |
| 19:48 | wizzyrea | doesn't |
| 19:49 | hmmm ok, I guess I'm crazy | |
| 19:50 | which I'm sure will be a relief to you | |
| 19:50 | * wizzyrea | clears cookies further back |
| 19:51 | * oleonard | doesn't really want wizzyrea to be crazy |
| 19:51 | cait | hm |
| 19:51 | I like her crazy | |
| 19:51 | wizzyrea | haha |
| 19:51 | oy. | |
| 19:51 | cait | oy? :) |
| 19:51 | * wizzyrea | is not sure there's another kind of wizzyrea |
| 19:51 | cait | aren't we all a bit crazy? :) |
| 19:52 | wizzyrea | ok I can't make it break again |
| 19:52 | must have been one of those things. | |
| 19:52 | I like it, it's cool :) | |
| 19:53 | tags too? | |
| 19:56 | oleonard: that's pretty awesome | |
| 19:56 | oleonard | Thanks |
| 19:59 | wizzyrea | oh I love git aliases. |
| 19:59 | crikey. | |
| 19:59 | I will not get carpal tunnel no | |
| 19:59 | now. | |
| 20:08 | * oleonard | wonders, again, whether he had code at one time for Bug 7257 or whether his screenshot was just a mockup |
| 20:08 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7257 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Add a link to remove an individual title from a list |
| 20:08 | oleonard | and if I had code...where did it go? |
| 20:08 | * wizzyrea | invokes the "git ate it" clause |
| 20:09 | oleonard | perhaps it hid in a poorly-named branch I summarily executed? |
| 20:09 | wizzyrea | could be |
| 20:11 | * oleonard | waves goodbye for the evening |
| 20:11 | wizzyrea | bye :) |
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| 20:29 | mbalmer | SIP business is hard |
| 20:29 | welcome to a world of incompatabilities ;) | |
| 20:31 | bag | gosh I love Koha!!! |
| 20:31 | just felt like adding that in :) | |
| 20:31 | magnus_afk | bag++ |
| 20:31 | bag | tha's why we all do this… |
| 20:31 | @karma bag | |
| 20:31 | huginn | bag: Karma for "bag" has been increased 1 time and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 1. |
| 20:31 | wizzyrea | @karma brendan |
| 20:31 | huginn | wizzyrea: Karma for "brendan" has been increased 28 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 28. |
| 20:32 | bag | sweet MY first ever karma increase :) |
| 20:32 | wizzyrea: you're cheating :) | |
| 20:32 | * wizzyrea | looks innocent |
| 20:32 | mbalmer | I did not even know about this karma stuff. |
| 20:32 | magnus_afk | @karma mbalmer |
| 20:32 | huginn | magnus_afk: Karma for "mbalmer" has been increased 8 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 8. |
| 20:32 | wizzyrea | @karma |
| 20:32 | huginn | wizzyrea: Highest karma: "rangi" (528), "oleonard" (459), and "wizzyrea" (314). Lowest karma: "<!" (-109), "failed" (-73), and "-" (-43). You (wizzyrea) are ranked 3 out of 1982. |
| 20:32 | magnus_afk | @karma magnuse |
| 20:32 | huginn | magnus_afk: Karma for "magnuse" has been increased 142 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 142. |
| 20:33 | magnus_afk | yay! |
| 20:33 | mbalmer | I just know "I am sorry, my karma just ran over your dogma" |
| 20:33 | * wizzyrea | nods |
| 20:33 | cait | @karma cait |
| 20:33 | huginn | cait: Karma for "cait" has been increased 248 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 247. |
| 20:33 | magnus_afk | @karma kf |
| 20:33 | wizzyrea | @karma kf |
| 20:33 | huginn | magnus_afk: Karma for "kf" has been increased 159 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 159. |
| 20:33 | wizzyrea: Karma for "kf" has been increased 159 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 159. | |
| 20:33 | wizzyrea | I think you're winning :) |
| 20:33 | * cait | IS cheating :) |
| 20:33 | magnus_afk | 248 + 159 |
| 20:33 | wahanui | 407 |
| 20:33 | magnus_afk | ooh! |
| 20:33 | wizzyrea | oooooo |
| 20:33 | battle of the titans :) | |
| 20:34 | mbalmer | cait++ |
| 20:34 | @karma cait | |
| 20:34 | huginn | mbalmer: Karma for "cait" has been increased 249 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 248. |
| 20:34 | cait | wizzyrea++ |
| 20:34 | wizzyrea | rofl |
| 20:34 | now now | |
| 20:34 | mbalmer | cait += 42 |
| 20:34 | cait | lots of people gave both nicks - I think addition is not right here :) |
| 20:34 | mbalmer | @karma cait |
| 20:34 | huginn | mbalmer: Karma for "cait" has been increased 249 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 248. |
| 20:34 | * wizzyrea | cedes 3rd place to kf/cait |
| 20:35 | mbalmer | ok, karma bot does not understand C syntax ;) |
| 20:35 | wahanui | bot does not understand c syntax ;) has neutral karma |
| 20:35 | jcamins_away | Hehe. |
| 20:35 | * wizzyrea | will have to work harder |
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| 20:35 | jcamins_away | karma me |
| 20:35 | wahanui | jcamins_away has karma of 12 |
| 20:35 | jcamins_away | @karma jcamins |
| 20:35 | huginn | jcamins_away: Karma for "jcamins" has been increased 219 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 218. |
| 20:35 | jcamins_away | @karma jcamins_away |
| 20:35 | huginn | jcamins_away: Karma for "jcamins_away" has been increased 11 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 11. |
| 20:35 | mbalmer | @dogma |
| 20:35 | wizzyrea | hm. that's not nearly enough |
| 20:35 | huginn | mbalmer: downloading the Perl source |
| 20:36 | wizzyrea | jcamins++ |
| 20:36 | cait | jcamins++ |
| 20:36 | bag | @karma druthb |
| 20:36 | huginn | bag: Karma for "druthb" has been increased 141 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 140. |
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| 20:36 | cait | @wunder jcamins_away |
| 20:36 | huginn | cait: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 20:36 | bag | @karma bywater |
| 20:36 | huginn | bag: Karma for "bywater" has been increased 32 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 32. |
| 20:36 | cait | @karma jcamins |
| 20:36 | huginn | cait: Karma for "jcamins" has been increased 221 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 220. |
| 20:36 | bag | @karma biblibre |
| 20:36 | huginn | bag: Karma for "biblibre" has been increased 57 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 57. |
| 20:36 | mbalmer | @wunder LSZI |
| 20:36 | huginn | mbalmer: The current temperature in APRSWXNET Bad Sackingen DE, Basel, Switzerland is 9.4°C (9:11 PM CET on March 14, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 37%. Dew Point: -4.0°C. Windchill: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.42 in 1030.0 hPa. |
| 20:36 | bag | @wunder 93109 |
| 20:36 | huginn | bag: The current temperature in K6LCM-Westside/Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 17.1°C (1:36 PM PDT on March 14, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1017.8 hPa (Falling). |
| 20:37 | mbalmer | APRSWXNET, huginn is crazy.. |
| 20:37 | cait | @wunder Marseille |
| 20:37 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 11.0°C (9:30 PM CET on March 14, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027 hPa (Steady). |
| 20:37 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 20:37 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 5.3°C (9:35 PM CET on March 14, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.41 in 1029.7 hPa (Rising). |
| 20:38 | mbalmer | that reminds me to install Koha on my laptop |
| 20:38 | jcamins_away | mbalmer: get to it! |
| 20:39 | mbalmer | yes, eventually. No hurry.. |
| 20:46 | wizzyrea | you mean "it's not a priority" |
| 20:51 | mbalmer | wrong. |
| 20:51 | I know it will take me about 3 hours. | |
| 20:52 | and there is still the weekend ahead. | |
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| 20:55 | maximep | @karma maximep |
| 20:55 | huginn | maximep: Karma for "maximep" has been increased 5 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 5. |
| 20:56 | maximep | :( |
| 20:56 | * mbalmer | hugs maximep |
| 20:56 | maximep | you have more karma than me! |
| 20:56 | =) | |
| 20:56 | jcamins_away | maximep++ |
| 20:57 | maximep | probably increased yours jcamins about 20 times with all my questions hehe |
| 20:59 | mbalmer | eat when you are hungry, drink when you are thirst, program when the time is right. |
| 20:59 | cait | maximep++ |
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| 20:59 | mbalmer | s/thirst/thirsty/ |
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| 21:01 | maximep | pfffffff, I don't want pity karma :p |
| 21:01 | ibeardslee | fine .. maximep -- |
| 21:02 | maximep | but what's done is done! |
| 21:03 | mbalmer | karma by proxy! |
| 21:03 | wahanui | by proxy! has neutral karma |
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| 23:04 | Judit | morning |
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