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| 00:56 | wizzyrea | does anyone else find adding baskets in acquisitions kind of... awkward? |
| 00:59 | also, jebus this is time consuming. | |
| 01:02 | jcamins_away | Very. I don't use acq though. |
| 01:26 | wizzyrea | how much better has my life gotten since git bz |
| 01:27 | let me count the ways | |
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| 03:08 | wizzyrea | regarding bug 7001, does anyone have an opinion on that last comment (is it ok when we do not have independent brances that everyone can edit notices for all branches) |
| 03:08 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7001 enhancement, P3, ---, srdjan, Needs Signoff , User Configurable Slips |
| 03:09 | rangi | everyone who has permissions to edit notices that is? |
| 03:09 | cos i think its fine, thats the current situation | |
| 03:20 | wizzyrea | yea, that's what I just said |
| 03:20 | on the bug | |
| 03:21 | rangi | cool :) |
| 03:21 | wizzyrea | i'm sure it could come up someday |
| 03:22 | rangi | yes |
| 03:22 | wizzyrea | someone will have a personnel problem they don't want to deal with |
| 03:22 | and | |
| 03:22 | rangi | exactly |
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| 03:22 | schuster | google.com |
| 03:22 | rangi | i wont fire you, ill punish the entire world instead |
| 03:22 | wizzyrea | you *could* just take away their tools permissions :P |
| 03:22 | schuster | oops wrong window, |
| 03:22 | wizzyrea | or "edit notice" permissions |
| 03:23 | it does in fact go that granular, which is nice. | |
| 03:23 | rangi | yup |
| 03:23 | * wizzyrea | forgot that |
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| 03:34 | schuster | so I was looking at bug 7284 |
| 03:34 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7284 major, P3, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Authority matching algorithm improvements |
| 03:34 | schuster | bug 7284 |
| 03:34 | wahanui | somebody said bug 7284 was the first step to making that happen. |
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| 03:35 | Amit_Gupta | hi bag |
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| 03:42 | Schuster12 | so 7284 is the bug |
| 03:44 | with I did git bz apply 7284 it told me bz is not a git command so i must not have something in BZ right. | |
| 03:44 | So I have to do the "manual" process..?? | |
| 03:47 | eythian | you need to install it first |
| 03:47 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_bz_configuration | |
| 03:47 | wahanui: git bz | |
| 03:47 | wahanui | git bz is so much fun :) or http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_bz_configuration |
| 03:51 | Schuster12 | I tried that but I must have something botched up someplace |
| 03:52 | eythian | presumably you haven't symlinked it to somwhere in your path. |
| 03:52 | Schuster12 | I guess... I'm going to try the manual process until I have a chance to work more on the git bz stuff - one step at a time. |
| 03:57 | wizzyrea | oh but the git bz stuff will make your life so much better. |
| 03:57 | it's totally worth the time to figure out why it's broken | |
| 03:58 | git bz enables my laziness. | |
| 04:01 | Schuster12 | I just want to download and test 7284 to see how it works... but now I think I'm stuck again. I downloaded the patchs but there is installing stuff... |
| 04:08 | wizzyrea | well yea |
| 04:08 | you'd need to update the database | |
| 04:08 | just log in with your koha db user/pass | |
| 04:08 | and if you can't remember it, it's in koha-conf.xml | |
| 04:16 | Schuster12 | well that might be it for me tonight. Tomorrow i have great hopes of committing something! |
| 04:16 | besides me to the nutty bin that is. | |
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| 04:56 | cait | morning #koha |
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| 05:05 | eythian | hi cait |
| 05:05 | cait | evening eythian |
| 05:26 | Amit_Gupta | heya cait |
| 05:26 | cait | hi Amit_Gupta |
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| 06:20 | Judit1 | if i have a child patron with a parent patron: can i set koha to send the first overdue warning to the child, and the second notice to do parent? |
| 06:20 | the email goes to the first available meail address, no | |
| 06:21 | eythian | I don't think you can do that. Least, I've never heard of it. |
| 06:22 | Judit1 | tha |
| 06:23 | nks | |
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| 06:33 | Suzzane | Hi mib-owuink |
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| 07:02 | mib_tt23k0 | can anyone help me with koha v3 marc_word thing. I am new to koha v3. My marc_word table seems to be corrupted, is it possible to rebuild it from other table? I googled but I only find scripts for koha v2.2 only. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Also welcome to reply me through mbsitmbs.org.my |
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| 07:24 | mib_neg20l | hey |
| 07:25 | No items available in opac do you know my error | |
| 07:26 | Suzzane | |
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| 07:32 | reiveune | hello |
| 07:32 | wahanui | bonjour, reiveune |
| 07:32 | Suzzane | Hi Mib |
| 07:33 | am also a learner | |
| 07:33 | mib_neg20l | hi |
| 07:33 | Suzzane | hopefully will be a guru then that i will lender my advisory services |
| 07:34 | mib_neg20l | you custemize koha |
| 07:35 | reiveune | |
| 07:35 | wahanui | somebody said reiveune was working for biblibre |
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| 07:35 | Suzzane | am customizing koha for our library use |
| 07:36 | magnuse | kia ora #koha! |
| 07:36 | indradg | morning #koha |
| 07:37 | mib_neg20l | my problem is No items available in opac |
| 07:38 | no one anwser my Qn | |
| 07:40 | suzzane | |
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| 07:41 | Suzzane | ops!!! cant be of much help here |
| 07:43 | mib_tt23k0 | did you check your database? |
| 07:43 | alex_a | bonjour |
| 07:43 | wahanui | what's up, alex_a |
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| 07:47 | julian_m | hi |
| 07:48 | Suzzane | Hi Julian |
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| 07:52 | paul_p | good morning #koha |
| 07:53 | magnuse | bonjour paul_p |
| 07:54 | paul_p | hi magnuse. What's new ? |
| 07:54 | Suzzane | Hi Paul-p |
| 07:54 | magnuse | hm, not much |
| 07:54 | Suzzane | i need your help |
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| 07:55 | magnuse | kia ora hdl! |
| 07:55 | paul_p | magnuse there's something new that is undoubtfull, at least here = the day is longer and longer ! |
| 07:55 | Suzzane what's your problem ? | |
| 07:55 | magnuse | paul_p: here too! and 3x yay for that! |
| 07:55 | Suzzane | we are trying to search in OPAC |
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| 07:55 | Suzzane | and error is cropping up |
| 07:55 | let me copy paste the error | |
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| 07:56 | hdl | hi magnuse |
| 07:56 | shorter and shorter in NZ | |
| 07:56 | Suzzane | This is the first error when you search all libraries:: Software error: Can't call method "data" on an undefined value at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Search.pm line 1488. The second error when you narrow the search to a specific library is still the same: Software error: Can't call method "data" on an undefined value at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Search.pm line 148 |
| 07:57 | Paul, what to do? | |
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| 08:06 | paul_p | Suzzane : it's one of the trickiest error you can get... can be caused by *many* things. |
| 08:07 | one of them being that your zebra database is not synched correctly with your SQL DB | |
| 08:07 | Suzzane | Paul, what do i do? |
| 08:07 | please guide me | |
| 08:07 | ok... | |
| 08:08 | is it possible to handle the error? | |
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| 08:14 | gaetan_B | hello #koha :) |
| 08:14 | Suzzane | paul, i lost you..... |
| 08:17 | where do i tell out programmer to do? | |
| 08:17 | sorry, what do i tell him to do? | |
| 08:21 | paul_p | Suzzane that's where it's tricky = I have no concrete suggestion to do... |
| 08:21 | Suzzane | ops!!!! |
| 08:22 | what might have happened coz the programmer has no idea | |
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| 08:25 | kf | hi again #koha |
| 08:25 | paul_p | Suzzane did it work ? |
| 08:25 | kf | morning paul_p |
| 08:25 | my coworkers transformed over night... I amworking now with a cowboy, a carrot, a hairy monster, a rabbit and an alien | |
| 08:26 | paul_p | if yes, what's the difference between now (don't work) and the time it worked ? that can be a change in your configuration, or an invalid data added |
| 08:26 | Suzzane | ok.... |
| 08:26 | let me talk to the programmer | |
| 08:27 | hdl | kf frightening. |
| 08:27 | kf | it is |
| 08:27 | today is the day all Konstanz goes crazy | |
| 08:28 | oh | |
| 08:28 | and a knight | |
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| 08:35 | kf | and an escapee (from jail) |
| 08:36 | hi francharb | |
| 08:36 | francharb | hi kf |
| 08:36 | paul_p | kf and you, what do you look like ? |
| 08:36 | kf | like myself - I kinda forgot to take care of a costume |
| 08:36 | I brought sweets... hopefully that will keep me safe | |
| 08:38 | paul_p | kf put sweets on your ears, your hairs, and become a "sweet tree" or something like that ;-) |
| 08:39 | (could work if you've a colored shirt ;-) ) | |
| 08:39 | kf | things formthe bakery... |
| 08:39 | but the idea is good | |
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| 09:28 | kf | paul_p: red straw hat and colorful scarf now... my coworkers wouldn't let me escape :) |
| 09:36 | paul_p | kf a few minuts for a functionnal question ? |
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| 09:38 | kf | yes |
| 09:38 | * magnuse | was wondering if kf had put something strange in her breakfast... |
| 09:38 | kf | magnuse: my breakfast was ok... but the others are acting strange |
| 09:38 | magnuse | hm, something in the water, perhaps? ;-) |
| 09:39 | kf | paul_p: what's your question? |
| 09:40 | paul_p | kf it's about issuingrules. When you enter nothing for a given value in issuingrules, shouldn't it mean "set null, so the usable value will be retrieved from the more general rule". |
| 09:41 | kf | no |
| 09:41 | paul_p | For example, issuinglength=21, qty=7, hold = nothing is entered for BOOKS |
| 09:41 | so there is no inheritance at all ? | |
| 09:41 | kf | there are some inconsistencies here I am not so happy about, but no inheritance |
| 09:41 | there is | |
| 09:41 | but only for rules | |
| 09:41 | so if you have a rule for books | |
| 09:41 | and a general rule | |
| 09:41 | but none for dvds the general rule will work | |
| 09:41 | if you leave it empty it will either mean unlimited or none | |
| 09:42 | there are some inconsistencies about that (sadly) | |
| 09:42 | but it's either none or unlimited | |
| 09:42 | when you leave max checkouts empty = unlimited, leaving maxreserves empty = no holds | |
| 09:43 | * kf | adds a big brown bear to the list of her new coworkers |
| 09:45 | paul_p | bad news... |
| 09:45 | wahanui | bad news is that you're probably royally screwed |
| 09:45 | kf | paul_p: I think inheritance for single values would make it very very very confusing |
| 09:45 | paul_p | (and probably some space for an improvement that would say "if there is nothing entered, use a more generic rule". 0 NOT being "nothing" |
| 09:46 | kf | no |
| 09:46 | I think it works correctly | |
| 09:46 | you don't enter circulation rules every day | |
| 09:46 | and you can configure every possilbe combination | |
| 09:46 | adding something like that would only make it more error prone and very confusing (in my eyes) | |
| 09:46 | what we need is an option to edit rules | |
| 09:46 | paul_p | that's true. But when you're a 55 branches library, with 8 itemtypes and 12 patron categories... |
| 09:47 | kf | yes, the interface is crap |
| 09:47 | sorry, but it is | |
| 09:47 | I do them in calc and load them with sql | |
| 09:47 | calc > csv > some regex/search&replace > mysql | |
| 09:47 | hm | |
| 09:47 | perhaps a csv import option | |
| 09:51 | paul_p: perhaps some import/export as we have now for frameworks would make things easier | |
| 09:51 | paul_p | you're right, but that doesn't exist yet too ;-) |
| 09:52 | kf | no it doesnt :( |
| 09:53 | what you can do is copy rules from one branch to another | |
| 09:54 | paul_p: and there is a bug report about default rules not working correctly sometimes - I always do all combinations explicitly - makes it easier later to change them | |
| 09:54 | not missing some combination by accident | |
| 09:54 | bug 4530 | |
| 09:55 | hm sleepy bot? :) | |
| 09:59 | paul_p: the main problem with the interface is, that if you have a lot of rules it's very hard to spot problems or missing combinations | |
| 10:00 | paul_p: and very easy to make mistakes when manually adding rules :( | |
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| 10:23 | * kf | nick kf_mtg |
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| 10:36 | Amit_Gupta | gaetan_B around??? |
| 10:40 | hdl | hi Amit_Gupta |
| 10:41 | Amit_Gupta | heya hdl |
| 10:42 | gaetan_B | hi Amit_Gupta ! i'm here :) |
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| 10:58 | slef | hi all. Is there a way to see the past loans for a patron? |
| 11:07 | hdl | circulation history |
| 11:07 | page. | |
| 11:20 | slef | wrong question |
| 11:20 | my fault | |
| 11:20 | thanks hdl and sorry | |
| 11:21 | trying again: hi all. Is there a way to see the past holds for a patron? | |
| 11:28 | ah, now you see that's a harder question, so people run away ;) | |
| 11:38 | hdl | the whole hold Module amkes ppl run away. slef patches welcome |
| 11:39 | slef | hdl: if it's not there, we might get funding to add the feature and do some related cleanup. We're bidding for all sorts of projects again. |
| 12:00 | kf_mtg | slef: a report on old_reserves? |
| 12:00 | using a runtime parameter for the cardnumber/borrowernumbr | |
| 12:01 | slef | kf_mtg: wow I'd not noticed old_reserves before |
| 12:01 | kf | :) |
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| 12:26 | jcamins_away | Whoah! |
| 12:26 | marcelr++ # lists permissions patches | |
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| 12:40 | kf | hi jcamins_away |
| 12:40 | jcamins | Hello. |
| 12:40 | * jcamins | is rebasing 7284 and squashing in the follow up this morning. |
| 12:41 | jcamins | I will also write an executive summary. |
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| 12:41 | kf | bug 7284 |
| 12:41 | wahanui | i heard bug 7284 was the first step to making that happen. |
| 12:41 | kf | huginn missing? |
| 12:41 | gmcharlt: around? | |
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| 13:10 | magnuse | Bug 7284 - Authority matching algorithm improvements http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7284 |
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| 13:24 | paul_p | hi back from lunch |
| 13:29 | slef | @later tell Amit_Gupta please say what you want to say and I'll read it later, or email me. |
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| 14:03 | jcamins | nengard: I wrote a detailed commit message for bug 7284 so that it'll be easy to incorporate information about it into the manual. |
| 14:04 | A detailed test plan, too. | |
| 14:05 | Isn't that convenient... makes it easy to test! | |
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| 14:11 | nengard | thanks jcamins |
| 14:19 | magnuse | jcamins++ |
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| 14:27 | jcamins_away | schuster++ |
| 14:29 | kf | paul_p: around? :) |
| 14:30 | janPasi | which distro would you guys recommend for running koha? |
| 14:31 | i've been using slackware because i pefer it's simplicity | |
| 14:31 | but i've been having massive problems with new slackware and new koha versions | |
| 14:31 | they just don't seem to work well together :( | |
| 14:32 | kf | I think Debian is probably the easiest, Ubuntu is easy too |
| 14:32 | there are Debian packages... | |
| 14:33 | janPasi | i've been thinking of maybe switching to ubuntu 11.04 LTS |
| 14:33 | i'm currently running ubuntu based mint lxde on my laptop, so i know ubuntu pretty well | |
| 14:34 | paul_p | kf yep |
| 14:34 | janPasi | all the servers that i maintain are still running slackware, though ;) |
| 14:35 | kf | paul_p: I have edited the google docs :) |
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| 14:46 | janPasi | hmm... maybe i'll go with debian afterall |
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| 15:01 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #629 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 15:02 | mbalmer | paul_p. tnx fer info! |
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| 15:10 | * oleonard | is running out of time to dredge up his knowledge of French from high school... |
| 15:11 | mbalmer | hallo mveron! |
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| 15:11 | mveron | mbalmer: hello |
| 15:11 | wahanui | salut, mveron |
| 15:11 | mveron | hello everybody |
| 15:12 | kf around? | |
| 15:13 | * mbalmer | likes mveron's IP address ;) |
| 15:16 | mveron | Question about z39.50 import: how can we map fields from imported data to our custom framework, e.g. 003 to 040? |
| 15:18 | kf | mveron: in a bit |
| 15:19 | slef | mveron: Last time I looked (3.0), that's a tricky one. I've pondered an enhancement to read the MARC over z39.50, convert to marcxml, run through a XSL Transformation, then use the transformed record. I don't think I've even got as far as an RFC for that yet. Got any funding? |
| 15:19 | * slef | waits for the howls telling him this was all fixed in 3.6 |
| 15:20 | * mbalmer | waits for that, too .. |
| 15:20 | mveron | kf: Just wanted to tell that I scceeded with the update, including German language |
| 15:21 | kf | yay :) |
| 15:21 | mveron | Finally it was done in a couple of minutes... I just had to find out how. Thanks fpr your support :-) |
| 15:21 | oleonard | slef: I wonder if you have any opinion on the usability of tag clouds? I'm struggling with a way to present a tag cloud in a way that distinguishes the user's tags from others' tags. |
| 15:22 | The use of color as a distinguishing element seems not universally friendly to me | |
| 15:22 | * oleonard | considered this, but that doesn't help the user of a screen reader http://screencast.com/t/0PP8FXpiKF4I |
| 15:22 | slef | oleonard: colour combined with dotted underline? |
| 15:23 | oleonard: I think in the past we've resorted to having global/user/combined tag clouds, but that's not great. | |
| 15:25 | oleonard: are the blue-on-white ones the other tags? If so, dotted border would work. | |
| 15:26 | oleonard | You would prefer a border to the white-on-blue? |
| 15:26 | slef | no I meant as well on the blue on whites |
| 15:27 | lets you guess the clickable area more easily | |
| 15:27 | but yours isn't bad... doesn't solve for screen readers though, you're right | |
| 15:27 | but I guess they can just set 0 other-people's tags | |
| 15:30 | * oleonard | finds it strange that the border and background don't wrap the same way the text does |
| 15:31 | kf | mveron: there is an enhancement waiting for some more tests |
| 15:31 | slef: also interesting for you too perhaps, allows applying a stylesheet to incoming marc21 records via z39.50 | |
| 15:32 | slef | kf: got link? |
| 15:32 | mbalmer | that sounds like what we are looking for. |
| 15:32 | kf | slef,mveron: I tested with some easay transformations, it works great, there is only a problem with the unimarc stylesheet |
| 15:32 | bug 6536 | |
| 15:32 | mbalmer | can the stylesheet be defined on a per server base? |
| 15:32 | kf | it's included in the sru bug :) |
| 15:32 | a description with test plan is on the wiki | |
| 15:33 | yes | |
| 15:33 | slef | where's huginn? |
| 15:33 | wahanui | huginn is a bot too veera, not a person |
| 15:33 | kf | slef: on vacation? I hoped for gmcharlt to show up |
| 15:33 | slef | gmcharlt: could you restart huginn please? |
| 15:34 | * oleonard | hopes huginn is offline for re-education |
| 15:34 | kf | mbalmer: yes, you can define one for each z39.50 target |
| 15:35 | mbalmer | perfect! |
| 15:35 | slef | oleonard: lobotomy? |
| 15:35 | oleonard | Re-educating him on the new Bugzilla statuses |
| 15:36 | kf | mbalmer: it's only stuck because there is a problem with unimarc :( |
| 15:36 | mbalmer | what is that problem? |
| 15:36 | kf | mbalmer: a working unimarc to marc21 xslt is needed to make it move forward |
| 15:36 | it's all in the comments on the bug | |
| 15:37 | jcamins_away | I loathe driving, bu it sure can be convenient to have a car at times. |
| 15:38 | slef | oh wow. Did someone really post a whitney scam link to koha's facebook page? |
| 15:38 | * slef | goes to see if someone else has removed it |
| 15:38 | slef | jcamins_away++ |
| 15:38 | jcamins_away | slef: what did I do? |
| 15:40 | slef | jcamins_away: said wise words |
| 15:40 | mbalmer | hmm, I don't find that xsl file.. |
| 15:40 | a, found it. | |
| 15:40 | jcamins | Are we talking about marcelr's super-cool Z39.50/SRU processing patch? |
| 15:41 | mbalmer | yes |
| 15:41 | jcamins | Isn't it super-cool? :) |
| 15:41 | mbalmer | bug 6536 |
| 15:41 | slef | cool, looks like facebook spam's been deleted already |
| 15:41 | kf | it is super-cool |
| 15:41 | mbalmer | he who wrote that XSLT fk |
| 15:41 | kf | so we should fix it and make it go in |
| 15:42 | mbalmer | … file is crazy ;) |
| 15:42 | kf | I think the unimarc to marc21 is based on work from biblibre |
| 15:42 | mbalmer | yes. |
| 15:45 | kf | I haven't looked at it - could be too traumatic :) |
| 15:45 | but it seems to work well enough | |
| 15:45 | for unimarc-to-marc21 | |
| 15:46 | jcamins | Myshkin is missing. |
| 15:46 | What a nuisance. | |
| 15:47 | kf | myshkin is missing?? |
| 15:47 | where did you loose him? | |
| 15:47 | jcamins | Oh, he's in hiding because he knows he isn't allowed into the basement. |
| 15:47 | (and when I came home, he had opened the basement door) | |
| 15:47 | (and gone into hiding so he wouldn't get in trouble for it) | |
| 15:48 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #629: SUCCESS in 47 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/629/ |
| 15:48 | * oleonard: Bug 7080 - Revised - Clean up interface on fine payment screens | |
| 15:48 | * juan.sieira: Previous and next functions are not used, since this code was removed from mas_subfields_structure.pl | |
| 15:48 | * robin: Bug 7238 - make packages deal with SIP config | |
| 15:50 | jcamins | But I'd like to know where he is. |
| 15:51 | kf | jcamins: shake the package with the dried cat food? |
| 15:51 | jcamins | kf: lol |
| 15:51 | I was actually just thinking I should do that. | |
| 15:51 | * jcamins | goes to feed Myshkin more. |
| 15:52 | oleonard | Or open a can of tuna? |
| 15:52 | jcamins | Or, at least, pretend he's feeding Myshkin more. |
| 15:52 | kf | sssh |
| 15:52 | don't tell him | |
| 15:52 | ok, leaving - bye all! | |
| 15:52 | kf left #koha | |
| 15:52 | oleonard | When I had cats they would get a crazed look in their eyes around tuna |
| 15:53 | jcamins | Well, I don't know where he was, but he must've been pretty close to the closet where we keep his food. |
| 15:54 | oleonard | Guest2198 around? |
| 15:55 | jcamins | Who's Guest2198? |
| 15:55 | oleonard | I'm assuming it's wizzyrea |
| 15:56 | jcamins | Ah. |
| 15:56 | Yeah, probably is. | |
| 15:56 | oleonard | She changes her nick to see if we talk about her behind her back |
| 15:56 | jcamins | lol |
| 15:56 | * jcamins | makes a snarky comment about her. |
| 15:57 | jcamins | So she doesn't feel like she wasted the effort. |
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| 15:58 | oleonard | I'm looking at Bug 7549 (http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=7549) but I don't know where the auto generated user name and passwords are coming from |
| 15:59 | A system pref I'm not aware of? | |
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| 16:06 | reiveune | bye |
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| 16:08 | * wizzyrea | waves |
| 16:09 | * oleonard | glares at Guest2198 |
| 16:10 | oleonard | wizzyrea: I'm looking at Bug 7549 (http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=7549) but I don't know where the auto generated user name and passwords are coming from |
| 16:10 | A system pref I'm not aware of? | |
| 16:13 | mveron | We have media rated by different age, e.g. 12, 14, 15 years old. |
| 16:13 | How can we prevent under aged patrons to check out such media without using tons patron categories? | |
| 16:15 | oleonard | mveron: You have to use some combination of item type and patron category. Koha doesn't have any circulation limitations based on age or rating |
| 16:17 | wizzyrea | hmm I'm not sure |
| 16:17 | Guest2198 was kicked by wizzyrea: Guest2198 | |
| 16:17 | wizzyrea | stupid guest. |
| 16:18 | * wizzyrea | has been home with a sick kid all day |
| 16:18 | wizzyrea | er, s/day/week/ |
| 16:18 | * oleonard | sends Popsicles |
| 16:18 | wizzyrea | *nods* you know the drill :) |
| 16:18 | possibly the most alarming influenza/pneumonia thing we've seen yet. | |
| 16:19 | oleonard | :( |
| 16:19 | * mbalmer | looks at mveron.. |
| 16:19 | wizzyrea | but ultimately conquered by the little man |
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| 16:19 | * mbalmer | and smiles |
| 16:19 | wizzyrea | (he's getting better) |
| 16:19 | jcamins | I need to leave in forty minutes. Myshkin has climbed into my lap and fallen sound asleep. |
| 16:20 | * mbalmer | things, mveron should to be told about /me ... |
| 16:21 | cait | what did I miss? :) |
| 16:21 | wizzyrea | hm that may not be long enough for myshkin's nap |
| 16:21 | can you reschedule? | |
| 16:21 | * mveron | thanks mbalmer for IRC smiling instructions |
| 16:21 | jcamins | cait: Myshkin fell asleep in my lapt, putting my legs to sleep, and making it difficult for me to eat lunch before I leave. |
| 16:21 | mbalmer | cait, mveron learning about IRC ;) |
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| 16:23 | * cait | is peeling violet potatos |
| 16:23 | jcamins | More violet potatoes? |
| 16:24 | Do they taste like regular potatoes? | |
| 16:24 | cait | I didn't eat them yesterday |
| 16:24 | ended up eating the normal potatoes | |
| 16:25 | but the one I tasted didn't taste too different | |
| 16:29 | jcamins: do you want a photo? :) | |
| 16:29 | jcamins | cait: yes please. :) |
| 16:31 | oleonard | wizzyrea, if you're still around, any suggestions about testing Bug 7549? |
| 16:31 | wizzyrea | well what I did |
| 16:31 | was create a new patron, put in the required fields, do nothing to the login/password, and click Save | |
| 16:32 | chris_n | interesting: http://www.unixmen.com/linuxmi[…]-growth-analysis/ |
| 16:32 | wizzyrea | (or whatever the affirmative button says |
| 16:32 | ) | |
| 16:32 | in my case it was populated with the auto generated card number? | |
| 16:32 | the login, I mean | |
| 16:32 | and ther were 4 stars in the 1st password box | |
| 16:34 | oleonard | wizzyrea: And you were blocked from saving? |
| 16:34 | wizzyrea | when i clicked save, it told me my passwords didnt match |
| 16:35 | oleonard | What required fields do you have defined? |
| 16:35 | wizzyrea | just surname and zip |
| 16:35 | letme double check that | |
| 16:37 | * oleonard | is able to save just fine |
| 16:37 | oleonard | I wonder what's different |
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| 16:39 | wizzyrea | not sure... let me check my preferences |
| 16:39 | oleonard | I have autoMemberNum set to "Do" |
| 16:39 | wizzyrea | ah oleonard |
| 16:40 | do you have automembernum set | |
| 16:40 | mine's set to Do | |
| 16:40 | DO | |
| 16:40 | oleonard | Me too |
| 16:40 | wizzyrea | hmmm |
| 16:41 | this is my defaults: zipcode|surname|cardnumber | |
| 16:41 | required, I mean | |
| 16:42 | minpasswordlength set to 3... | |
| 16:42 | should be standard. | |
| 16:42 | this DB came from the sample data + some bibs. | |
| 16:42 | so it shouldn't be anthing out of the ordinary | |
| 16:43 | * oleonard | still can't reproduce |
| 16:44 | oleonard | The *** in the password field appeared after you tried to save? |
| 16:44 | wizzyrea | it appeared before |
| 16:44 | maybe a chrome thing? | |
| 16:45 | * wizzyrea | is using chrome on linux |
| 16:45 | wizzyrea | it says "the following fields are mandatory: the passwords entered do not match" |
| 16:46 | I can make it do it every time | |
| 16:46 | mbalmer | bye folks, see you on the other side! |
| 16:46 | wizzyrea | (bye |
| 16:46 | ) | |
| 16:46 | mveron | good bye everyone |
| 16:46 | wizzyrea | later :) |
| 16:49 | * oleonard | mutters, 'what do you mean there's already a Han Solo registered?' |
| 16:49 | * chris_n | goes for another "We are upgrading from Koha 3.03.00.003 to 3.06.03.000..." run |
| 16:50 | wizzyrea | @quote add ***oleonard mutters, 'what do you mean there's already a Han Solo registered?' |
| 16:50 | oleonard | wizzyrea: Sorry to ask, but you're sure there's nothing in the username/password fields before saving? |
| 16:50 | pastebot | "chris_n" at 63.162.197.228 pasted ""We are upgrading from Koha 3.03.00.003 to 3.06.03.000..." errors" (10 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/260 |
| 16:50 | wizzyrea | no, they are autopopulating with the generated cardnumber |
| 16:51 | and who knows what password | |
| 16:51 | chris_n | ^^ for anyone interested in misc harmless errors during upgrade |
| 16:52 | * wizzyrea | curses at the lack of decent screencasting for linux. |
| 16:52 | wizzyrea | if anyone has an open solution suggestion I'm willing to take it (for that) |
| 16:52 | oleonard | wizzyrea: Before submission? In the otherwise blank entry form? |
| 16:52 | wizzyrea | right |
| 16:53 | oleonard | No custom javascript? Not browser-based auto-population? |
| 16:53 | wizzyrea | I don't think so but I will double check - seems odd that it would autopopulate with the generated cardnumber though |
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| 16:54 | wizzyrea | nothing in intranetuserjs |
| 16:54 | or intranetusercss | |
| 16:57 | oleonard | Is it a javascript alert? |
| 16:57 | wizzyrea | ok, you may be able to slap me with a trout |
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| 16:58 | * oleonard | readies a trout |
| 16:59 | wizzyrea | it looks like my browser is autofilling it :( sorry |
| 16:59 | commence the trout slapping | |
| 17:01 | * oleonard | swings, but the trout escapes |
| 17:01 | wizzyrea | but what *is* interesting |
| 17:01 | is that I don't see, in chrome | |
| 17:01 | where to clear that | |
| 17:01 | gaetan_B | bye! |
| 17:02 | cait | wizzyrea: perhaps there is something we can add to the field to prevent autofilling? like we did for the barcode fields? |
| 17:03 | oleonard | I think auto-fill is different than auto-suggest |
| 17:03 | wizzyrea | yea |
| 17:03 | cait | oh :( |
| 17:03 | that would have been to easy I guess? | |
| 17:10 | oleonard | wizzyrea: Did you find it? Preferences -> Personal stuff -> Passwords. |
| 17:10 | I'll be Chrome isn't clever enough to tell the difference between the Koha login form and the patron entry form | |
| 17:10 | s/be/bet | |
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| 17:11 | wizzyrea | I suspect you're right |
| 17:12 | oh passwords, that makes so much sense. <eyeroll> | |
| 17:13 | * wizzyrea | is annoyed at chrome, not at oleonard |
| 17:13 | oleonard | Good, because I don't have another upgrade due for a while |
| 17:14 | wizzyrea | hehe |
| 17:17 | francharb | hi |
| 17:17 | wahanui | niihau, francharb |
| 17:18 | francharb | can a patron renew a book if it's an overdue book? |
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| 17:19 | oleonard | Depends on a few things, but generally yes francharb |
| 17:20 | francharb | depends on what? if you allow renewals or not and if there are renewals rules, right? |
| 17:20 | oleonard | You can set renewal limits (only renew X number of times) |
| 17:21 | * wizzyrea | suspects that oleonard v2 is already done with production, and undergoing a growth cycle at the moment. They changed the name though. |
| 17:21 | francharb | it seems strange to me, that even if you allow renewals and set up rules, a patron can renew a book with overdues |
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| 17:22 | francharb | but thanks oleonard for the answer! |
| 17:22 | oleonard | francharb: You think that if it's overdue one should not be able to renew? |
| 17:22 | francharb | yes |
| 17:22 | oleonard | I don't know that Koha can do that... |
| 17:23 | cait | I think it can't |
| 17:23 | and should be an option | |
| 17:24 | I think we have an option for 'over amount x can't renew' | |
| 17:24 | francharb | I think so too |
| 17:24 | cait | but not sure |
| 17:24 | francharb | there is an option |
| 17:24 | a syspref | |
| 17:24 | to overide | |
| 17:24 | renewalls limit | |
| 17:24 | but I think there should be a syspref to block patron from renewal on overdue books too | |
| 17:25 | something like : OverduesBlockCirc but for the opac renewals | |
| 17:26 | oleonard | I would think that OverduesBlockCirc should be blocking opac renewals already |
| 17:27 | francharb | humm |
| 17:27 | apparently not | |
| 17:27 | one of our library complain about it | |
| 17:27 | cait | oleonard: they block circulation of new books instaff |
| 17:27 | francharb | and patched it |
| 17:27 | cait | I think it's out of scope |
| 17:27 | the reneals | |
| 17:27 | francharb | they may have open up a bugzilla tix |
| 17:27 | oleonard | An oversight, or just the way that library's policy worked? |
| 17:27 | wizzyrea | chris_n did I already ask you about bug 7090 and 3.6.4? |
| 17:28 | oleonard | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7090 |
| 17:30 | chris_n | wizzyrea: I don't recall.. I can't remember... |
| 17:30 | where's huginn when you need it? | |
| 17:31 | should it go into 3.6.4? | |
| 17:32 | wizzyrea | well NEKLS would like it to, but I don't know if it's a feature or a bugfix. |
| 17:32 | * sekjal | has QA'ed up a storm. time for lunch |
| 17:32 | wizzyrea | certainly it fixes a perceived "bug" |
| 17:33 | but it's labeled as enhancement | |
| 17:34 | * chris_n | finds that is a not-so-uncommon occurrence |
| 17:34 | chris_n | having what is really a bug labeled as enh |
| 17:34 | but if it fixes a problem it is a bug even if it is an enh | |
| 17:34 | imho | |
| 17:34 | oleonard | What if I think it's a problem that I don't have a pony? |
| 17:35 | * chris_n | is trying to find time to get 3.6.4 cherry-picked :-P |
| 17:35 | * wizzyrea | thinks that it is a definite bugfix to get oleonard a pony |
| 17:35 | chris_n | oleonard: that's in the horse family rather than the bug family |
| 17:35 | or is that specie | |
| 17:35 | wizzyrea | hehe |
| 17:36 | * wizzyrea | recognizes that one is a 123 |
| 17:36 | chris_n | I suppose then that oleonard cannot be expected to pony-up? |
| 17:37 | * wizzyrea | thinks that the pony would also need a saddle |
| 17:37 | chris_n | yup; and food and hay |
| 17:37 | just think of the gas you'd save getting to work | |
| 17:38 | * oleonard | isn't sure my pony would be up to a 10-mile gallop each way |
| 17:38 | paul_p | if someone could signoff bug 7545, Koha would thank you : atm, serials module is badly broken... |
| 17:39 | chris_n | this: |
| 17:39 | DBD::mysql::st execute failed: Data too long for column 'isbn' at row 1 at /home/cnighswonger/Repositories/koha.3.2.labels//C4/Biblio.pm line 3378. | |
| 17:39 | is a bug that has been around too long | |
| 17:39 | paul_p | wow... 20 bugs passed QA recently... |
| 17:39 | (18 today) | |
| 17:39 | good job sekjal & marcelr & joubu | |
| 17:42 | sekjal | paul_p: sorry for letting such a backlog build. |
| 17:42 | I'm finally getting settled at my new job, so I had some time today to throw at QA work | |
| 17:42 | paul_p | if you pass QA the 24 that are still waiting today i'll accept your apologizes :o) |
| 17:42 | wizzyrea | paul_p: i'm working on that right now |
| 17:43 | paul_p | sekjal++ |
| 17:43 | wizzyrea++ | |
| 17:43 | well, now i've 20 patches to test & push... | |
| 17:43 | and it's almost 7PM... | |
| 17:43 | fortunatly, tomorrow i'll be available for all the day. | |
| 17:44 | sekjal if you could concentrate on QAing biblibre patches, I think i and/or joubu will be able to deal with others tomorrow | |
| 17:44 | oleonard | Is there a patch or bug for adding patron images to self checkout? |
| 17:45 | sekjal | paul_p: that sounds reasonable |
| 17:46 | wizzyrea | paul_p: I"m going to squash 7545 if that's ok |
| 17:46 | paul_p | wizzyrea no problem |
| 17:47 | schuster | oleonard - isn't there a syspref? |
| 17:47 | oleonard | schuster: For the staff client. As far as I know it doesn't apply to self checkout |
| 17:48 | schuster | I think there is a second one... just a sec |
| 17:48 | cait | 7113 would be nice... |
| 17:48 | sekjal | paul_p: going to have to come back to this after lunch, though... getting too hungry to think straight |
| 17:48 | cait | or it will probably have to be rebased again :( |
| 17:48 | schuster | ShowPatronImageInWebBasedSelfCheck ? |
| 17:49 | cait | if oyu use patron images |
| 17:49 | you can show them in the self check | |
| 17:49 | I think so the patron will see if he is himself? not sure :) | |
| 17:49 | oleonard | You're right schuster, thanks |
| 17:49 | * oleonard | wonders how that relates to Bug 3516 |
| 17:49 | * chris_n | wonders why patrons would want to look at a picture of themselves while executing a self-checkout |
| 17:50 | chris_n | photo-id maybe? |
| 17:50 | cait | oh |
| 17:50 | * cait | concentrates on her dinner again |
| 17:50 | schuster | great in schools... That is you right... |
| 17:50 | cait | sorry, i missed the questoin :( |
| 17:50 | * chris_n | can believe that some may need such assurance |
| 17:50 | wizzyrea | paul_p: that patch causes some problems in the tests for serials |
| 17:50 | or at least, it did in mine, but it might be due to my data possibly | |
| 17:51 | schuster | made me nervous there for a minute.. That was an "enhancement" we put forward 3+ years ago1 |
| 17:51 | wizzyrea | (and it may be that the tests are broken now, too) |
| 17:51 | schuster | where did my morning go... drat |
| 17:52 | * chris_n | looks around for it |
| 17:52 | chris_n | must be where ever mine is |
| 17:52 | oleonard | Myshkin is asleep on it |
| 17:53 | * chris_n | wishes there were such a thing as a nomenclature cheat-sheet for koha |
| 17:54 | * cait | misses a whole day |
| 17:54 | cait | ! |
| 17:54 | wizzyrea | nomenclature cheat sheet? |
| 17:55 | what do you mean | |
| 17:55 | chris_n | re paul's email to the list |
| 17:55 | something to map vars from templates all the way back to db fields, etc. | |
| 17:56 | oleonard | that would require that we be consistent with regard to variable names :P |
| 17:56 | wizzyrea | yes, holy wow yes that would be so nie |
| 17:56 | nice | |
| 17:56 | slef | refactirubg work |
| 17:56 | refactoring even | |
| 17:56 | when your right hand is not off-by-one | |
| 17:57 | chris_n | consistent naming... now there's a novel idea |
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| 17:57 | wizzyrea | some of that is caused by the automated translation from htp to tt |
| 17:57 | slef | sort of dirty work I did a little of ages ago that no-one ever wants to pay for and disrupts all outstanding patches |
| 17:57 | oleonard | Did the patron images feature always store images in the database? |
| 17:57 | chris_n | and the marc editor is particularly gnarly iirc |
| 17:58 | oleonard: yes | |
| 17:59 | it avoided a nasty file system permission issue which the general consensus stated was needful to avoid at the time I wrote the feature | |
| 17:59 | sekjal | part of our move to the Koha:: namespace could be consistent data objects with well-defined fields |
| 17:59 | oleonard | chris_n: I assumed from the comments on Bug 3516 that it didn't (then), but I think that was a misunderstanding |
| 18:00 | sekjal | and we can then correspondingly move to an HTML5-based template to take advantage of new data |
| 18:01 | chris_n | descriptive var names are another nice thought |
| 18:01 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #630 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 18:01 | chris_n | oleonard: looking |
| 18:02 | interesting | |
| 18:02 | wahanui | interesting is sometimes bad or sometimes good |
| 18:02 | chris_n | exactly |
| 18:02 | in this case I'm not sure | |
| 18:02 | oleonard: so what is that bug for? | |
| 18:02 | oh | |
| 18:02 | nm | |
| 18:03 | rangi's patch does it right | |
| 18:03 | am I missing what you're getting at? | |
| 18:04 | oleonard | The patch attached to that bug (which was written by nengard) calls patronimage.pl in the staff client |
| 18:05 | Instead it looks like we need to adapt sco-patron-image.pl for the opac | |
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| 18:06 | chris_n | ahh, yup, to avoid permissions issues |
| 18:06 | * chris_n | seems to recall having this discussion long ago |
| 18:06 | chris_n | really the functionality needs to be moved off to a pm |
| 18:07 | then it could be called from anywhere | |
| 18:07 | I think jcamins and I had a similar discussion recently | |
| 18:08 | gmcharlt: we miss huginn | |
| 18:09 | oleonard | Hmmmm... You can put in anyone's cardnumber and view their patron image in self-checkout |
| 18:09 | That sound like a bug to anyone else? | |
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| 18:09 | gmcharlt | @quote random |
| 18:09 | huginn | gmcharlt: Quote #184: "slef: IF YOU STARE TOO DEEPLY INTO MARC21, MARC21 STARES BACK INTO YOU!" (added by wizzyrea at 06:58 PM, January 30, 2012) |
| 18:10 | edveal | oleonard: I don't have much experience with graphic programs and only have access to Gimp and was wanting to work on the cart/list buttons. I read your blog but don't quite get what I need to do. Might you provide me some assistance? |
| 18:10 | * gmcharlt | suffers a brief moment of existential crisis |
| 18:10 | oleonard | edveal: Certainly. What are you trying to do? |
| 18:10 | edveal | I am working on fixing the blue border. |
| 18:11 | I have a different background color and it looks funny? | |
| 18:12 | chris_n | gmcharlt: lol |
| 18:13 | oleonard: sounds buggy to me | |
| 18:13 | * oleonard | fires up Gimp |
| 18:13 | chris_n | does it also follow that I can put anyone's card number in and check books out to them |
| 18:13 | keep them | |
| 18:13 | and then they pay | |
| 18:13 | ? | |
| 18:15 | bbl | |
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| 18:16 | oleonard | edveal: Did you try opening the Photoshop file from my blog post? |
| 18:17 | edveal | Yes, I have opened the photoshop file and it when right to gimp. |
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| 18:19 | Syneran | Anyone have any experience with "DBD::mysql::st execute failed: Field 'marcxml' doesn't have a default value" from biblio.pm (when cataloging an item)? |
| 18:20 | edveal | oleonard: I also want to remove the blue outline from the Koha image. I know how to switch the image but not how to edit it. |
| 18:20 | oleonard | edveal: I'm not a Gimp expert, but I think it may not be able to export the right kind of PNG image... |
| 18:21 | edveal | oleonard: darn. |
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| 18:22 | oleonard | edveal: I can easily modify the cart/list button background image to make the corners match the color you want |
| 18:22 | ...and send it to you. | |
| 18:23 | edveal | oleonard: that would be great. Here is the color code for the background #E3DB71. |
| 18:23 | oleonard | Or maybe I should spend the afternoon on a patch to style those buttons with CSS3... :P |
| 18:24 | * oleonard | inadvertently joins IRC channel #E3DB71 |
| 18:26 | edveal | I like the idea of the patch! Would make my life much easier! :) |
| 18:27 | sekjal | oleonard++ (CSS3 is a great idea for those buttons. checkout catalog.marlboro.edu for an example, if you need) |
| 18:27 | wizzyrea | edveal - I was able to restyle the buttons with css3 by hiding the images |
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| 18:27 | wizzyrea | let me see if I can find what I did |
| 18:28 | pastebot | "wizzyrea" at 99.109.57.55 pasted "for edveal" (32 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/261 |
| 18:29 | wizzyrea | that went into opacusercss |
| 18:29 | there might be more i'm still looking :P | |
| 18:29 | oleonard | edveal: http://www.screencast.com/t/9YoJiZUPc |
| 18:29 | schuster | so how did marlboro get the reserves lists setup? interesting... |
| 18:29 | cait | oh |
| 18:29 | I have a permission quesiton | |
| 18:30 | serials: if I don't have routing permission, should i still be able to print routing lists? | |
| 18:30 | I think it would make sense to be able to print, but not change them | |
| 18:30 | and hide all routing list things when the system preference is deactivated | |
| 18:30 | sekjal | schuster: they use Lists |
| 18:31 | oleonard | sekjal: Is that hard-coded into opacmainuserblock? |
| 18:31 | sekjal | and then create a News entry (manually) each semester to highlight them as shown |
| 18:31 | francharb | no more work for today! |
| 18:31 | schuster | OK so it isn't anything new and fancy... |
| 18:31 | francharb | see ya |
| 18:31 | wizzyrea | schuster: I suspect they created those lists by hand with the name Reserve: Profname |
| 18:31 | sekjal | schuster: no they're on straight community Koha |
| 18:33 | * cait | thinks community Koha is very fancy :) |
| 18:35 | cait | wizzyrea++ |
| 18:36 | Syneran | Heya all. I'm new to IRC, in general, and this chat in particular. |
| 18:36 | I'm having a problem with install. Would this be the right place to bring it up? or should I post some where else? | |
| 18:36 | wizzyrea | go ahead Syneran |
| 18:36 | :) | |
| 18:36 | @quote search ask | |
| 18:36 | huginn | wizzyrea: 7 found: #117: "<druthb> basking ? You bask on the beach...one...", #126: "<rangi> The beauty of Koha is we develop in the...", #13: "<atz> ricardo: ask and ye shall receive.......", #145: "Don't ask to ask, just ask!", #155: "libsysguy: I always hate touching somebody...", #45: "<CGI988> sekjal - you are a genious!!!!! asking...", and #4: "< kf> I often get asked: You have to study to..." |
| 18:36 | wizzyrea | @quote get 145 |
| 18:36 | huginn | wizzyrea: Quote #145: "Don't ask to ask, just ask!" (added by wizzyrea at 02:37 PM, July 07, 2011) |
| 18:37 | wizzyrea | ;) |
| 18:37 | Syneran | Thanks! my error log is producing this error: |
| 18:37 | Field 'marcxml' doesn't have a default value at Biblio.pm line 3454 | |
| 18:38 | rangi | Sup crackalackas |
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| 18:38 | cait | morning rangi |
| 18:38 | Syneran | The method that is executing the xml doesn't seem to include a value for marcxml, yet, it's specified as not null (with no allowed default value) in kohastructure.sql |
| 18:38 | mbalmer | re koha |
| 18:39 | Syneran | method executing [sql] not xml :/ |
| 18:39 | cait | Syneran: what are you trying to do when that error shows up? |
| 18:39 | Syneran | catalog an item |
| 18:39 | sekjal | Syneran: what version of Koha? |
| 18:39 | cait | which verison did you install? |
| 18:40 | sekjal | cait: jinx |
| 18:40 | cait | oh |
| 18:40 | Syneran | 3.06.03 |
| 18:40 | wizzyrea | oh poo, opendns is canceling "Free" usage for all but home users |
| 18:40 | hey rangi :) | |
| 18:40 | cait | Syneran: and how are you trying to catalog the item? |
| 18:41 | what steps? | |
| 18:41 | wizzyrea | perhaps you nuked a field you shouldn't have out of your framework |
| 18:41 | have you edited your frameworks? | |
| 18:41 | Syneran | no, i haven't edited frameworks |
| 18:41 | and i don't know much about marc records | |
| 18:41 | so i may have messed it up | |
| 18:41 | i'm actually trying to add first item into catalog | |
| 18:42 | and it's a toy, hehe...so I'm trying to add as a "kit" | |
| 18:43 | from mainpage.pl, i went to followed link for "add marc record" | |
| 18:43 | then followed "Kits" in framework drop-down | |
| 18:44 | wizzyrea | hm try wit hthe default framework? |
| 18:44 | maybe it's a prblem in the kits framework | |
| 18:44 | Syneran | ok...i'll give it a try |
| 18:45 | sekjal | reading the code, it doesn't seem like a frameworks error |
| 18:45 | Syneran | since it's a toy, and not something marc records are accustomed too...are there any steps i should take to account for a non-standard item? |
| 18:45 | sekjal | this is taking place in _koha_add_biblioitem, which is a private subroutine for AddBiblio |
| 18:45 | Syneran | that's what it seems like to me, as well, sekjal |
| 18:46 | sekjal | that subroutine doesn't insert anything into biblioitems.marcxml |
| 18:46 | just into biblioitems.marc | |
| 18:46 | wizzyrea | though I just found another bareword error >< |
| 18:46 | in master. | |
| 18:47 | oh never mind, it's the same one for additems. | |
| 18:47 | Syneran | the schema for biblioitems seems to require something for the marcxml column...otherwise adding a row gets rejected |
| 18:48 | does the marcxml get automagically generated at some point in the processing of an add item request? | |
| 18:49 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #630: SUCCESS in 48 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/630/ |
| 18:49 | * nengard: Bug 7545: Can't edit items | |
| 18:49 | * kyle: Bug 7018 - need all acq permissions to search | |
| 18:49 | * maxime.pelletier: Bug 6718 No manager_id saved for writeoff fines. | |
| 18:49 | * m.de.rooy: Bug 3264 UnCloneField() / minus button in MARC editor can clear all subfields (authorities AND biblio) | |
| 18:49 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7545 blocker, P1 - high, ---, nengard, Pushed to Master , can't edit items |
| 18:49 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7018 critical, P5 - low, ---, henridamien, Pushed to Master , need all acq permissions to search | |
| 18:49 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6718 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , No manager_id saved for writeoff of fines | |
| 18:49 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3264 major, P2, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , Uncloning a dropdown list in MARC authorities/biblio editor may clear all subfields (see comment 17) | |
| 18:49 | sekjal | Syneran: are you finding that the item doesn't get a cataloged at all, or just that you're getting errors in your log |
| 18:50 | Syneran | the item is not being added to the biblioitems table |
| 18:50 | cait | Syneran: you added a bibliographic record first? |
| 18:50 | Syneran | i'm not sure...by that, I mean I'm not certain of the terminology (forgive me!) |
| 18:51 | i was "cataloging"...so is that trying to enter a bibliographic record? | |
| 18:51 | sekjal | Syneran: you can confirm the information isn't getting saved in the database |
| 18:51 | Syneran | Yes, sekjal. Using the mysql client, that table is completely empty (the biblioitems table) |
| 18:52 | sekjal | hmmm |
| 18:52 | rangi | What about biblio? |
| 18:53 | nengard | how do i pull a branch in git? the manual says it's out of date on my 3.6 branch, but every command i try failes |
| 18:53 | Syneran | biblio DOES have the item in it! |
| 18:54 | If I use the search feature, nothing shows up, though | |
| 18:55 | sekjal | Syneran: what fields are you filling in when cataloging the new material? |
| 18:55 | rangi | It won't it needs biblioitems too |
| 18:55 | Syneran | thanks rangi |
| 18:57 | I'm wondering if the execute() should handle the marcxml field somehow? | |
| 18:58 | cait | I wonder what's going wrong for you :( |
| 18:58 | rangi | My stop bbiab |
| 18:58 | wizzyrea | sekjal should we change 3916 to "in disscussion" |
| 18:58 | cait | we are using 3.6.3 in production and adding items and records works nicely there |
| 18:58 | wizzyrea | maybe you're missing a dependency? |
| 18:59 | cait | Syneran: you can find a table showing some of the dependencies under more > about koha |
| 18:59 | nengard | the new AllowItemsOnHoldCheckout preference - is that only for self checkouts? |
| 18:59 | wizzyrea | only for SIP |
| 19:00 | nengard | we might want to make that clearer |
| 19:00 | wizzyrea | go right ahead |
| 19:00 | nengard | I'll put it in the manual, but it says self checkout - that could be assumed to be Koha's self check |
| 19:00 | wizzyrea | it would not be the first time the two were confused. |
| 19:00 | nengard | heh |
| 19:00 | sekjal | wizzyrea: done |
| 19:01 | Syneran | more > koha has a perl modules tab. It has a table of dependencies. |
| 19:01 | cait | something red there? |
| 19:02 | Syneran | there are four that are not installed, though it was my understanding from koha_perl_deps that they were optional |
| 19:04 | Graphics::Magick, Net::Server, Gravatar::URL, DBD::SQLite2 | |
| 19:06 | i don't see how that execute() function could ever work if it doesn't provide some value for the marcxml field. the database does't seem to allow it | |
| 19:07 | janPasi | I was wondering about this debian stuff... |
| 19:07 | which version should I choose? | |
| 19:07 | the latest stable? | |
| 19:08 | liw | janPasi, yeah, the latest stable version is almost certainly the best for your purposes |
| 19:08 | janPasi | ok, thanks :) |
| 19:09 | rangi | http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian |
| 19:11 | cait | Syneran: a record needs a marcxml field |
| 19:13 | Syneran | cait: any idea how that field gets populated? the _koha_add_biblioitem doesn't make any reference to that field in it's query (that I can tell, anyway) |
| 19:14 | cait | Syneran: not sure about the code |
| 19:14 | still wondering what's going wrong in your installation | |
| 19:14 | rangi | yeah i have libraries in production with 3.6.3 and they havent run into this |
| 19:15 | cait | I don't think it#s a bug |
| 19:15 | more a problem with your installation | |
| 19:17 | Syneran | ok. well...that is certainly fair cait :) this installation is unusual in that it's on windows 7 |
| 19:17 | <ducks> am i gonna get egged now ;) | |
| 19:17 | sekjal | Syneran: very interesting |
| 19:17 | that would explain why | |
| 19:18 | almost everyone here is installed on Linux (the vast majority being Debian, I believe) | |
| 19:18 | Syneran | why i am getting an error? |
| 19:19 | sekjal | Syneran: being installed on Win 7 is a big enough difference that issues like this could easily crop up. Perhaps the way MySQL works on Win 7 is just different enough to cause problems like this |
| 19:19 | Syneran | so, I "fixed" the query in _koha_add_biblioitem to set a default value to the marcxml field if that field is undef on the $biblioitem object, and the request worked. |
| 19:20 | in other words, I added $biblioitem->{'marcxml'} = "<x></x>" unless defined( $biblioitem->{'marcxml'} ); then added the marcxml field to the query | |
| 19:20 | what I don't know, is <x></x> a really bad idea as a default value? | |
| 19:21 | cait | that will not work |
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| 19:21 | cait | all the important information goes into that field.... I highly doubt it will work |
| 19:21 | sekjal | better to use "" |
| 19:21 | I think empty string would be acceptable | |
| 19:21 | since it's not NULL | |
| 19:21 | cait: I think marcxml gets populated later in the AddBiblio subroutine | |
| 19:22 | cait | ok |
| 19:22 | sekjal | this would just be a crutch get to Win 7 (and perhaps other OS's) to get to that point |
| 19:22 | Syneran | interestingly, post query that field looks nothing like the default value i gave it. |
| 19:22 | lemme change it to "". | |
| 19:22 | Shane-S | I got Koha installed, but nothing it showing up at localhost:8080 and localhost just has the default "It Works!" How do I get Koha as a recognized Apache site? |
| 19:23 | sekjal | Shane-S: usually you need "sudo a2dissite default" then "sudo a2ensite koha" |
| 19:23 | Shane-S | I followed http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ing_Koha_packages for the most part (change the sources.list to use squeeze versus squeeeze-dev |
| 19:23 | sekjal | also be sure your apache2/ports.conf has a Listen 8080 line |
| 19:23 | Shane-S | sekjal: AH! that second line is missing from the tutorial |
| 19:24 | sekjal | and then restart apache to reload these modified configurations |
| 19:24 | Shane-S | kk let me give that a try, ty |
| 19:26 | Syneran | erm, so, things seem to be working for me (now that I modified biblio.pm)...thanks everyone |
| 19:26 | Shane-S | sekjal: Site koha doesn't exist, and etc/apache2/sites-available is now empty (no default files) |
| 19:26 | is there a koha conf I cna copy or do I manually make it | |
| 19:26 | well i guess symlink versus copy | |
| 19:26 | sekjal | Shane-S: ah, so you'll need to symlink the koha-httpd.conf from your install directory to /etc/apache2/sites-available |
| 19:27 | nengard | need some git help - i can't push to the 3.6 manual - i tried doing a reset to HEAD, that didn't work, how do i pull an updated branch? |
| 19:27 | Syneran | add the line Include {pathTo}/koha-httpd.conf into apache httpd.conf (at the end) |
| 19:28 | well...that's what I had to do on windows cuz there's no equivalant to the a2 cmds | |
| 19:28 | Shane-S | Syneran: I was told that is so Apache 1 by someone in #Apache on irc.freenode.net so I havelearned to symlink :P |
| 19:28 | WIndows...yeah...think 7 have a symlink feature now though | |
| 19:29 | Syneran | perhaps shane-s but i don't think apache for windows has a sites-available directory |
| 19:29 | at least i couldn't find one :) | |
| 19:31 | Shane-S | grr...I dont have a koha-https.conf in /etc/koha I see apache-shared.conf (few more with dis-,intra-,opac) is it somewhere else? |
| 19:31 | Syneran | while I'm here, is there any interest (in a general way) about the problems faced when installing to windows 7? I'd be glad to document what I've had to do and post it some where for others |
| 19:32 | Shane-S | *raises hand* I love linux...but I run all Windows Server / 7 here at work |
| 19:32 | I suck at Linux too :P | |
| 19:33 | Syneran | e.g., the Schedule::At module doesn't work at all for any windows platform (I hope to remedy that in the near future...already in discussion with the author) |
| 19:34 | Alright shane-s. Just need to have some idea where such a document would go | |
| 19:34 | rangi | i wont try to stop you, but proprietary software holds no interest for me, so probably wont be much help either |
| 19:34 | Shane-S | is the apache-shared.conf = koha-httpd.conf ? I can find this apache-shared.conf in an install guide |
| 19:34 | can't* | |
| 19:36 | Syneran: subpage here: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]gory:Installation ?? | |
| 19:36 | rangi | nengard: what is the error you are getting when you do a git pull? |
| 19:37 | nengard | PMed cause it was a bit long for paste |
| 19:38 | Syneran | Thanks everyone so much for your help! bye now |
| 19:39 | oleonard | So... we really do simply *trust* that a self checkout user is who they say they are? |
| 19:39 | Do we make this assumption because the SCO station supposedly has no keyboard? | |
| 19:39 | cait | hm I think we require login? |
| 19:39 | there is a system preference | |
| 19:40 | oleonard | Ah, I see: either barcode or username/password. |
| 19:40 | rangi | yup |
| 19:40 | some places do trust | |
| 19:40 | like corporate libraries | |
| 19:44 | sekjal | some libraries set their SIP-enabled SCO machines to only require barcode, as well |
| 19:44 | but Koha is not as forgiving with that | |
| 19:44 | it will only allow the barcode-only auth if no password is defined in the database for that user | |
| 19:45 | cait | interesting |
| 19:45 | wahanui | rumour has it interesting is sometimes bad or sometimes good |
| 19:45 | sekjal | I was working on a way to configure that, but ran into some problems |
| 19:46 | like, at what level should the config be set? | |
| 19:46 | I'd argue against globally, since you may want one SIP machine to be barcode-only, but other services like Overdrive or EnvisionWare to require passwords | |
| 19:47 | so at a per-listener end, then, but I don't believe that bit of config code is accessible during the authentication subroutine | |
| 19:47 | I know it can be done, but it was a pain to fight with | |
| 19:50 | Shane-S | is there a way to tell if Koha is installed...because http://git.koha-community.org/[…]LL.ubuntu;hb=HEAD has way more to do thenhttp://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ing_Koha_packages |
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| 19:56 | Shane-S | *sigh* does Koha use a web-based setup at all or is it all via perl Makefile.PL? |
| 19:56 | rangi | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ocs.git;a=summary yay |
| 19:57 | Shane-S: uses a web based one as well | |
| 19:57 | Shane-S | I just dont know where http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ing_Koha_packages has left me |
| 19:57 | rangi | and if you installed it using packages, not the Makefile.PL if you did it using the tarball then yes you have to run perl Makefile.PL |
| 19:57 | Shane-S | I don't have a koha-httpd.conf file |
| 19:57 | rangi | you wont |
| 19:58 | if you installed via packages | |
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| 19:58 | Shane-S | I did install it via .deb packages |
| 19:58 | rangi | http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian |
| 19:58 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ebian#Quick_Start | |
| 19:58 | i bet you are up to that bit | |
| 19:58 | chris_n | 29k bibs and counting... :P |
| 19:58 | rangi | you have done the apt-get install koha-common eh? |
| 19:58 | * chris_n | removes items from bibs |
| 19:59 | chris_n | heya rangi |
| 19:59 | rangi | heya chris_n |
| 19:59 | wahanui | release maintainer for 3.2, 3.4, and 3.6. |
| 19:59 | Shane-S | rangi yep... and "After install, edit /etc/koha/koha-sites.conf with details about your site." I have koha-conf-sites.xml.ini, but not that |
| 20:00 | rangi | yep, make one |
| 20:00 | Shane-S | ah okay :P |
| 20:00 | rangi | that looks very similair to that snippet |
| 20:00 | leave out the DEFAULTSQL bit | |
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| 20:01 | Space_Librarian | o/ |
| 20:01 | rangi | hi Space_Librarian |
| 20:01 | tgif | |
| 20:02 | jcamins_away | chris_n: what were we discussing? |
| 20:03 | ibeardslee | I can never understand that sentiment .. it's like it should be 'tgim' .. back at work, awesome! |
| 20:03 | Space_Librarian | tgif indeed rangi :) |
| 20:03 | chris_n | jcamins_away: fine chocolates maybe? |
| 20:03 | :) | |
| 20:03 | Space_Librarian | did somebody say chocolate?! |
| 20:03 | chris_n | actually, the storage and retrieval of images |
| 20:03 | jcamins | Mmmm. Chocolate. |
| 20:04 | Ah, yeah. | |
| 20:04 | You could generalize the C4::Images class I did. | |
| 20:04 | Space_Librarian | mmmm. Chocolate. |
| 20:04 | oleonard | Hmm... I see you can renew an item for anyone via the OPAC if you know their borrowernumber and the itemnumber... |
| 20:04 | ibeardslee | I ended up pigging out on a box of chocolates last night |
| 20:04 | rangi | it doesnt use the borrowernumber that you are logged in as? |
| 20:04 | thats definitely a blocker bug if so | |
| 20:05 | Shane-S | rangi: thanks, I assume using koha-create --create-db mylibrary is safe once that is done? |
| 20:05 | * Space_Librarian | breaks out the s'mores pop tarts |
| 20:05 | Space_Librarian | (dealing with subject headings today) |
| 20:05 | rangi | youve done the a2enmod rewrite etc? |
| 20:05 | jcamins | Space_Librarian: s'mores pop tarts aren't goign to cut it. |
| 20:05 | Shane-S | yeah that was done from the other tutorial I followed for Ubuntu |
| 20:05 | Space_Librarian | they all I have here for now |
| 20:06 | I'll rectify the situation when it's not 9am. :) | |
| 20:06 | Shane-S | peanut butter on them might help ;) |
| 20:06 | wizzyrea | it's marshmallow, chocolate, and graham, what more could anyone want |
| 20:06 | peanut butter, I guess. | |
| 20:06 | Space_Librarian | thanks wizzyrea! :p |
| 20:07 | * wizzyrea | makes smores in the microwave with marshmallows and nutella |
| 20:07 | jcamins | wizzyrea: you don't put peanut butter on s'mores?!? |
| 20:07 | wizzyrea | ! |
| 20:07 | no? | |
| 20:07 | wahanui | no is, like, failing unit tests |
| 20:07 | * jcamins | doesn't either, but it sounds like a great idea. |
| 20:07 | cait | heh |
| 20:08 | * wizzyrea | was going to make almond milk swedish pancakes this week but just never got to it |
| 20:08 | wizzyrea | so much better than cow milk ones. |
| 20:08 | jcamins | wizzyrea: pop tarts don't generally have real chocolate, do they? |
| 20:08 | wizzyrea | well no. |
| 20:08 | chocolate flavored syrup stuff | |
| 20:09 | jcamins | wizzyrea: there we go. One could want real chocolate. ;) |
| 20:09 | wizzyrea | but in a pinch, it could work. |
| 20:11 | oleonard | rangi: In my test, as long as I'm logged in as a valid user in the OPAC I can renew items for someone else using a properly constructed URL |
| 20:11 | Tested with a non-admin user | |
| 20:12 | jcamins | oleonard: you should report that as a blocker. |
| 20:12 | rangi | right that definitely needs to be fixed fast |
| 20:12 | yeah | |
| 20:12 | * oleonard | will do so |
| 20:12 | * jcamins | can't look at it, but that's kind of a huge problem. |
| 20:12 | jcamins | At least for places that do circulation. |
| 20:12 | rangi | most likely an easy fix |
| 20:12 | Space_Librarian | jcamins, wizzyrea ina pinch it does work. There's a Belgian chocolate place that will be visited at lunch though... |
| 20:12 | jcamins | Space_Librarian: very good idea. |
| 20:12 | rangi | discard the param passed in, and use the borrowernumber from the userenv |
| 20:12 | wizzyrea | nom |
| 20:13 | jcamins | Space_Librarian: you may want to look at bug 7284 for your subject linking needs. :D |
| 20:13 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7284 major, P3, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Authority matching algorithm improvements |
| 20:14 | * chris_n | still wonders what keeps a person from running a self-checkout on someone else's card |
| 20:15 | chris_n | but I suppose that is an exercise for the library using self-co |
| 20:15 | Space_Librarian | jcamins - *swoon* - that is going to be awesome! |
| 20:16 | jcamins | Space_Librarian: I know. All it needs is a sign off... hint hint... |
| 20:16 | And it was just rebased this morning, too. | |
| 20:16 | wizzyrea | chris_n: the power of prayer. |
| 20:16 | bag | Has anyone added a message to the cgi-bin/koha/opac-reserve.pl (on the OPAC) when a patron is placing a hold? |
| 20:17 | through JQuery maybe? | |
| 20:17 | wizzyrea | before or after the hold is submitted? |
| 20:17 | bag | I want to add some html on that screen |
| 20:17 | wizzyrea: yup | |
| 20:17 | sorry | |
| 20:17 | before the hold is place | |
| 20:17 | wizzyrea | I think so |
| 20:17 | * chris_n | figures retinal scans might fix that issue |
| 20:18 | bag | like once you click on the place hold button… |
| 20:18 | chris_n | perhaps using the built-in webcam |
| 20:19 | oleonard | Bug 7551 |
| 20:19 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7551 blocker, P1 - high, ---, oleonard, NEW , Any logged-in OPAC user can renew items for others using a properly constructed URL |
| 20:20 | rangi | thanks oleonard |
| 20:20 | * rangi | looks now |
| 20:21 | Shane-S | So I have the installer (web) up, but I need a username and password. The XML password looks encrypted, what is the default for kohauser? |
| 20:22 | jcamins | Shane-S: it's that gibberish you see in koha-conf.xml. |
| 20:22 | rangi | its not, look at the username and password at the bottom |
| 20:23 | once you create a real user you should never ever log into koha with that user and password again | |
| 20:23 | Shane-S | okay :P |
| 20:23 | jcamins | Never ever _ever_. |
| 20:24 | * cait | seconds that |
| 20:24 | Shane-S | looked like was salted :D |
| 20:24 | jcamins | Shane-S: nope, just gibberish. |
| 20:25 | rangi | oleonard: if you have a sec |
| 20:25 | oleonard | Sure |
| 20:25 | rangi | i whacked a patch up |
| 20:25 | cait | rangi++ |
| 20:26 | rangi | it should ignore the borrowernumber param |
| 20:26 | or it might explode in a ball of flame | |
| 20:26 | could go either way | |
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| 20:31 | oleonard | Okay, with the patch I can't renew for others. Now let's see if I can renew for myself... |
| 20:32 | Shane-S | grr...got through the setup and now I can't login, I see biblio and authoritative in the xml, but that isn't working, nor did the inital one...do I have to make a login somewhere? |
| 20:32 | * chris_n | gets out the fire extinguisher |
| 20:32 | schuster | ok so I have 3 branches in my git that I have been working on. I just realized that I crossed one of the branches as I was editing some of the code did work in branch1 then went to branch2 and did some work and also edited the file from branch1.. is this salvageable or do I start over? |
| 20:32 | cait | Shane-S: you run the webinstaller and then log in again with the same user |
| 20:33 | and first thing you do is create a real user | |
| 20:33 | Shane-S | clipboard must have copied wrong |
| 20:33 | in now thanks | |
| 20:33 | oleonard | ...and I can renew for myself. Looks like it's working as it should |
| 20:33 | Shane-S | can't remember that gibberish :P |
| 20:33 | Thanks | |
| 20:35 | is a user called a Patron even if the admin? | |
| 20:36 | wizzyrea | yep |
| 20:37 | Shane-S | okay well at least I am in...leave it for another day I am stressed. |
| 20:37 | Thank you all for the help :P | |
| 20:40 | rangi | oleonard: yay! |
| 20:40 | wizzyrea | rangi++ |
| 20:40 | cait | hah rangi++ :) |
| 20:40 | wizzyrea | flaming fireballs! |
| 20:41 | oleonard | Signed off. |
| 20:41 | rangi | excellent |
| 20:41 | we may have broken the record | |
| 20:41 | cait | report, fix, sign-off? |
| 20:42 | qa and push missing | |
| 20:42 | rangi | 9.21am report |
| 20:42 | 9.24 patch | |
| 20:42 | 9.40 signed off | |
| 20:42 | wizzyrea | sekjal! halp! :) |
| 20:42 | jcamins | sekjal: QA bug 7551? |
| 20:43 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7551 blocker, P1 - high, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , Any logged-in OPAC user can renew items for others using a properly constructed URL |
| 20:43 | rangi | hes at a meeeting |
| 20:43 | jcamins | Oh. |
| 20:43 | wizzyrea | fumble lol |
| 20:43 | jcamins | Well, he'll have lots of highlights when he gets back. |
| 20:53 | oleonard | Now that that distraction is taken care of: http://screencast.com/t/mhE6zh9IgnWx |
| 20:54 | * wizzyrea | giggles. |
| 20:54 | rangi | heh |
| 20:54 | jcamins | LOL! |
| 20:54 | You have the greatest patron image ever. | |
| 20:54 | rangi | Space_Librarian: going to the slis event on wed night? |
| 20:55 | Space_Librarian | rangi, I am - and I'm dragging my staff with me - not quite kicking and screaming. Are you? |
| 20:55 | oleonard - that is fantastic! | |
| 20:56 | rangi | atarau is getting his biopsy on wednesday, so nope, but im sure it will be fun :) |
| 20:56 | Space_Librarian | :( I'm sure it will be |
| 20:59 | oleonard | If we show the patron image in the OPAC next they'll ask us to update their image for them :) |
| 20:59 | wizzyrea | should we offer to let them upload their own :P |
| 20:59 | rangi | hells no! |
| 20:59 | * wizzyrea | giggles |
| 21:00 | just wanted to see rangi squirm | |
| 21:00 | wizzyrea | just once. |
| 21:00 | oleonard | There goes our alternate business model of turning Koha into OKCupid |
| 21:00 | rangi | heh |
| 21:01 | Space_Librarian | wizzyrea, you're evil. I like it |
| 21:01 | * wizzyrea | waves her arms "Just kidding! Really!" |
| 21:02 | Space_Librarian | ;) |
| 21:05 | oleonard | Why do some scripts have "use warnings;" and others have "#use warnings; FIXME - Bug 2505" ? |
| 21:05 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2505 major, P1 - high, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , enable Perl warnings in all modules and scripts |
| 21:05 | jcamins | oleonard: 'cause there are warnings in those scripts. |
| 21:06 | sekjal | back |
| 21:06 | oleonard | jcamins: You mean there are warning in the scripts where the line isn't commented out? |
| 21:07 | rangi | it means someone needs to uncomment use warnings |
| 21:07 | jcamins | oleonard: no, there are warnings in the scripts where the line *is* commented out. |
| 21:07 | rangi | and fix all the use of initialized variables |
| 21:07 | jcamins | That should have been fixed but weren't. |
| 21:07 | rangi | that suddenly start occuring |
| 21:07 | oleonard | So "use warnings" is correct, the comment was added to remind people to fix that file |
| 21:08 | rangi | donovan from work |
| 21:08 | went through every file | |
| 21:08 | that didnt have use warnings | |
| 21:08 | and added that | |
| 21:09 | then fixed a few too, and uncommented | |
| 21:09 | but lots more to do | |
| 21:09 | he added that | |
| 21:09 | so you can grep "Bug 2505" | |
| 21:09 | to find them | |
| 21:09 | jcamins | oleonard: right. |
| 21:10 | oleonard | Another basic question: Why do we still have scripts say stuff like 'template_name => "opac-user.tmpl",' when that obviously doesn't mean anything anymore? |
| 21:11 | * jcamins | has often wondered that. |
| 21:11 | rangi | it gets changed to .tt by the C4::Templates |
| 21:11 | oleonard | Okay, so it really does mean something to Koha |
| 21:11 | rangi | it allowed use to migrate and have |
| 21:11 | things not explode in a huge heap | |
| 21:11 | but feel free to change it to .tt | |
| 21:11 | on any scripts you touch | |
| 21:11 | now the change is all complete that should be safe | |
| 21:13 | cait left #koha | |
| 21:13 | rangi | (it meant you could togggle between C4/Output and .tmpl and C4/Templates and .tt without having to change every single script) |
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| 21:14 | jcamins | Hm. Maybe we should make a mass change, because that does confuse people. |
| 21:15 | rangi | yup, eventually i will kill all template->param too |
| 21:15 | but thats harder | |
| 21:17 | * oleonard | wonders why line 4673 of updatedatabase.pl says "$DBversion = "3.07.00.013"; #FIXME" |
| 21:17 | * jcamins | wondered that as well. |
| 21:17 | rangi | no idea about that one |
| 21:18 | after my time :) | |
| 21:18 | oleonard | Maybe someone thought that the "XXX" required the #FIXME comment? |
| 21:18 | jcamins | Yeah, probably. |
| 21:24 | sekjal | bug 7551 passed QA |
| 21:24 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7551 blocker, P1 - high, ---, oleonard, Passed QA , Any logged-in OPAC user can renew items for others using a properly constructed URL |
| 21:25 | oleonard | Thanks sekjal |
| 21:30 | * oleonard | will submit a patch for Bug 3516 after crossing some T's tomorrow morning |
| 21:30 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3516 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Display picture of patrons in OPAC |
| 21:30 | oleonard | Until then, bye #koha |
| 21:30 | rangi | cya oleonard |
| 21:33 | sekjal | scanned the opac for other security risks like 7551; no others detected |
| 21:34 | rangi | thanks sekjal |
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| 21:38 | smeagol | Is 'reservenumber' ever going to be added to reserves table? |
| 21:39 | rangi | if you stop chasing rings all the time and write a patch to do it, then yes :) |
| 21:40 | smeagol | haha..me wants it...me neeeeeeeeds it.....!!! |
| 21:41 | Space_Librarian | my precioussssssss. lol |
| 21:41 | * Space_Librarian | is getting endless queries about her elvish tattoo at work again. |
| 21:41 | rangi | heh |
| 21:42 | wizzyrea | endless? |
| 21:42 | so Space_Librarian, tell us about your tattoo | |
| 21:42 | * wizzyrea | waits |
| 21:42 | Space_Librarian | everybody who passes my desk stops and asks. |
| 21:42 | it's my name in Quenyan - okay?! Damnit. :p | |
| 21:43 | maybe I need in in Sindarin that says "stop bothering me" as well... ;) | |
| 21:43 | rangi | heh |
| 21:45 | how about "Go away or i will eat your face" in black speech ? | |
| 21:45 | Space_Librarian | ooooh! Now there's one that could be awesome. |
| 21:46 | eythian | https://www.facebook.com/photo[…]1500&l=368788dbe9 <-- Space_Librarian, a friend of mine got this done recently |
| 21:46 | (don't know if you can see the photo, but you might be able to) | |
| 21:46 | https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamai[…]1_939130816_n.jpg <-- this may work better | |
| 21:47 | Space_Librarian | *gasp* - now that is something I could live with for the rest of my life... |
| 21:47 | eythian | It's the: "All that is gold does not glitter, Not all those who wander are lost." thing |
| 21:48 | ibeardslee | nice |
| 21:48 | eythian | (that photo is from when it was just done, it probably looks a bit better now) |
| 21:48 | Space_Librarian | That is just... yeah. wow. |
| 21:48 | ibeardslee | trying to find something that has a meaning, and will still have meaning in 10, 20, 30, 40 years time |
| 21:52 | Space_Librarian | ibeardslee all mine do - but yeah, think of things that have stuck with you for the last couple of decades, and probably won't change in the next... |
| 21:54 | sekjal | okay, folks, I'm out for the night. been a blast. |
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| 22:01 | smeagol | I just thought maybe it was in the works.. |
| 22:02 | nengard left #koha | |
| 22:03 | rangi | smeagol: i think its is part of the holds rewrite, so id check the bugs related to that |
| 22:10 | Guillaume left #koha | |
| 22:16 | smeagol | aha..thanks, rangi...i thought someone was doing it. i will check. |
| 22:33 | maximep left #koha | |
| 22:36 | eythian | http://cclblog.wordpress.com/2[…]rians-get-crabby/ |
| 22:37 | wizzyrea | lulz |
| 23:00 | edveal left #koha | |
| 23:03 | wizzyrea | is vewwy quiet |
| 23:07 | trea left #koha | |
| 23:08 | Space_Librarian | awe yuw hunting wabbits? wizzyrea? |
| 23:15 | wizzyrea | shhhh |
| 23:18 | * Space_Librarian | zips her lips and sits vewwy still |
| 23:31 | jcamins_away | Rabbits? Did someone say rabbits? |
| 23:31 | Myshkin says yum! | |
| 23:32 | Space_Librarian | now if only we had taters... |
| 23:33 | wizzyrea | what's taters precious |
| 23:35 | jcamins_away | Woohoo! My professor really is using Koha in his rare book cataloging course! |
| 23:35 | wizzyrea | nice! |
| 23:38 | jcamins_away | Alas, I don't have enough tomato sauce for pizza. |
| 23:38 | Space_Librarian | boil 'em, mash 'em, put 'em in a stew... |
| 23:39 | jcamins_away | Pizzas? |
| 23:41 | wizzyrea | pheh |
| 23:44 | Space_Librarian | right. chocolate... |
| 23:45 | jcamins_away | Mmmm. Chocolate. |
| 23:45 | I'm making cookies today. | |
| 23:45 | Or brownies! | |
| 23:45 | wahanui | brownies are a lie. |
| 23:45 | jcamins_away | I could make brownies! |
| 23:45 | My grandmother's oven isn't defective! | |
| 23:45 | Mmmm. Brownies. | |
| 23:45 | * jcamins_away | realizes that he doesn't have a pan suitable for baking brownies in. |
| 23:46 | jcamins_away | Aaugh! |
| 23:46 | Space_Librarian | the cake is a lie! |
| 23:46 | jcamins_away http://www.thinkgeek.com/homeoffice/kitchen/a1aa/ | |
| 23:47 | jcamins_away | lol! |
| 23:47 | Space_Librarian: but aren't the middle brownies tastier? | |
| 23:48 | wizzyrea: what is your stance on middle brownies vs. edge brownies? | |
| 23:50 | Space_Librarian | Personally, I like middle brownies. But then, I've never actually had genuine American brownies. |
| 23:51 | jcamins_away | Yayyy!!!! I found a dish I could bake brownies in! :D |
| 23:51 | * jcamins_away | probably shouldn't be allowed around #koha evenings when he's home alone. No work is done, and the entire world is inflicted with a stream-of-consciousness view of his kitchen. |
| 23:57 | Space_Librarian | which I always find entertaining. :) |
| 23:57 | wizzyrea | you know, I don't actually have a preference |
| 23:57 | regarding brownies | |
| 23:57 | Space_Librarian: we will have to fix that | |
| 23:57 | * wizzyrea | has an "edge brownie pan" |
| 23:58 | wizzyrea | it was a gift |
| 23:58 | Space_Librarian | does it work? |
| 23:58 | wizzyrea I look forward to being educated on the joys of the brownie |
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