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| 03:27 | AmitG | heya chris, bag |
| 03:31 | bag | hey AmitG |
| 03:38 | mtj | peeps, any idea what the url to Koha's perlcritic page is? |
| 03:41 | rangi showed me a nice html table for each Koha *.pm module somewhere online | |
| 03:56 | AmitG | heya mtj |
| 03:58 | bag | mtj if you find it again - please show me I'd love to see that |
| 04:06 | mtj | heya AmitG bag |
| 04:07 | yeah, its prolly on the wiki somewhere, but not the main kc.org wp site | |
| 04:08 | hmm, not on the wiki either (via a search) | |
| 04:11 | ahhhh, the perlcritic stuff is a jenkins plugin | |
| 04:11 | http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]6.x/HTML_Report/? | |
| 04:12 | http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ter/HTML_Report/? | |
| 04:12 | thats what im lookin' for :) | |
| 04:13 | bag | ah cool thanks mtj |
| 04:13 | mtj++ and rangi++ for that matter | |
| 04:15 | mtj | ooh, Devel::CoverReport looks to do the magic there |
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| 04:21 | Oak | kia ora #koha |
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| 06:03 | wizzyrea | hi? |
| 06:03 | * wahanui | waves |
| 06:03 | wizzyrea | oic. |
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| 06:07 | Oak | hello wizzyrea :o) |
| 06:07 | wizzyrea | whaddup :) |
| 06:09 | Oak | not much :) |
| 06:09 | what about yourself? | |
| 06:09 | wizzyrea | well I just got a new laptop, getting everything set up all comfy like in ubuntu |
| 06:09 | but I may change it tomorrow, we'll see ;) | |
| 06:10 | Oak | cool cool. |
| 06:10 | liking the new ubuntu desktop "improvements"? | |
| 06:10 | wizzyrea | well |
| 06:10 | some things I like | |
| 06:10 | others make me want to gouge out my eyes | |
| 06:10 | Oak | exactly |
| 06:10 | * Oak | uses XFCE |
| 06:11 | wizzyrea | but, this lappy works better than any other laptop I've had with linux |
| 06:11 | Oak | hm, that's good. which one is it? |
| 06:11 | wizzyrea | admittedly the other laptops I've had were from that fruit named place in cupertino. |
| 06:11 | Asus u36jc-b1 | |
| 06:11 | totally great name, really sticks in the mind. | |
| 06:12 | Oak | :) yep |
| 06:13 | wizzyrea | i have an asus transformer too - great piece of gear. |
| 06:14 | Oak | hmm. looks nice. |
| 06:14 | wizzyrea | it *is* very nice. |
| 06:14 | it runs that other proprietary OS pretty well too (I keep it around for games) | |
| 06:15 | Oak | very good looking keypad... like comfortable |
| 06:15 | wizzyrea | I like it - it has a nice subtle clicky sound |
| 06:15 | but not too much | |
| 06:16 | Oak | well, good. :-) |
| 06:16 | wizzyrea | anyway, that's what's up with me :P |
| 06:16 | what are you up to? | |
| 06:17 | Oak | working on a website. it was made in Joomla 1.5. now I have to re-make it in Joomla 1.7 |
| 06:17 | wizzyrea | oh and ew. |
| 06:17 | Oak | yep :) |
| 06:17 | wizzyrea | remaking_things_due_to_software_updates-- |
| 06:17 | Oak | i hate it |
| 06:18 | wizzyrea | ^^ makes me not want to use said software. |
| 06:18 | i hope there's a very compelling reason to make the upgrade | |
| 06:19 | Oak | client likes the sound of "latest" and also 1.7 > 1.5, so. |
| 06:20 | :) well hopefully once my MLIS is done (last semester), and I get a job in library, I will have the choice of doing what I like to do... and keep doing this as part time. hm. | |
| 06:21 | okay that's what's up with me :) | |
| 06:21 | wizzyrea | hm. that is not a compelling reason to me. But the customer is always right I guess. |
| 06:21 | :) | |
| 06:21 | Oak | yep. and we do what we are told. |
| 06:22 | wait, there is one more reason, let me find the link. | |
| 06:27 | support for 1.5 will end in April 2012... there will be no more security patches. http://developer.joomla.org/de[…]pment-status.html | |
| 06:28 | but as you will notice, 1.8 will come soon also, and then will have to re-make same things again. most probably. | |
| 06:29 | sorry, not 1.8, rather 2.5 | |
| 06:33 | or may be not. there were major changes in the framework when update from 1.5 to 1.6 came. So we had to re-make things in 1.6. Hopefully, upgrades from 1.7 to 2.5 will be some kind of automatic process? like click and upgrade thing. I hope so. | |
| 06:34 | okay me quiet now. | |
| 06:34 | wizzyrea | yes, wow |
| 06:34 | that is so much work. | |
| 06:34 | Oak | yep |
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| 06:40 | trea | http://trac.edgewall.org/demo-0.12/report |
| 06:40 | oops | |
| 06:40 | but yea, trac | |
| 06:47 | * wizzyrea | giggles |
| 06:49 | rangi | ohhh 1998 called it wants its github back |
| 06:56 | wizzyrea | hehe |
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| 07:06 | cait | hi #koha |
| 07:07 | rangi | hi cait |
| 07:07 | cait | hi rangi |
| 07:09 | wizzyrea | hi cait |
| 07:10 | cait | hi wizzyrea :) |
| 07:12 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7388] rounded corners for side menus in staff client <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7388> |
| 07:13 | Oak | hello miss cait |
| 07:13 | cait | hi mr Oak :) |
| 07:13 | thx for the link :) | |
| 07:13 | Oak | :) |
| 07:13 | ah | |
| 07:13 | no problem :-) | |
| 07:21 | cait | @wunder Reutlingen |
| 07:21 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Reutlingen, Germany is 1.7°C (8:21 AM CET on December 30, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 28.58 in 967.7 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:21 | rangi | @wunder nzwn |
| 07:21 | huginn | rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 13.0°C (8:00 PM NZDT on December 30, 2011). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:35 | wizzyrea | chillyish |
| 07:36 | rangi | yeah, cold front sitting over the whole of the country |
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| 07:55 | jai | hello |
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| 07:56 | jai | i am from keraal |
| 07:57 | hi | |
| 07:57 | ru ther | |
| 07:58 | cait | hi jai |
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| 07:59 | cait | do you have a question? |
| 07:59 | and morning julian_m | |
| 08:00 | julian_m | hi cait |
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| 08:11 | gaetan_B | hello |
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| 08:12 | cait | hi gaetan_B and francharb |
| 08:12 | francharb | hi cait |
| 08:13 | lducos | hello koha |
| 08:13 | cait | hi lducos |
| 08:17 | greenmang0 | friends, i just installed latest koha ,,, with all default data in db , then started zebrasrv ... but when i run /rebuild_zebra.pl -b -a -v ... it shows 0 records |
| 08:17 | what can be the reason? | |
| 08:17 | cait | have you imported records? |
| 08:18 | the default records don't include that | |
| 08:18 | I mean the default data | |
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| 08:31 | greenmang0 | cait, i just followed web installer ... and checked all the boxes |
| 08:31 | cait | yes |
| 08:32 | but it does not install bilbiographic data | |
| 08:32 | you have to catalog some books yourself :) | |
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| 09:16 | paul_p | hello everybody |
| 09:16 | * paul_p | suspect there wont be a lot of ppl today ;-) |
| 09:16 | magnuse | hiya paul_p and everyone else! |
| 09:16 | paul_p | hey, at least magnuse is here !!! |
| 09:17 | good morning my friend ! | |
| 09:17 | * magnuse | suspects paul_p is right ;-) |
| 09:17 | paul_p | and "bon bout d'an" as we say in Marseille this week |
| 09:17 | magnuse | and cait, surely? |
| 09:17 | bon bout d'an to you , then! | |
| 09:17 | paul_p | bon=good, bout=part (usually small) d'an=of year |
| 09:17 | cait | yep here |
| 09:17 | wahanui | rumour has it yep here is a good resource, if you have read the manual then probably the next place to look is the wiki |
| 09:18 | * magnuse | looks quizzically at wahanui |
| 09:19 | paul_p | to celebrate this end of year, ive clean my desktop (the physical one), and reorganised my surroundings ! will start the new year with a new office ;-) |
| 09:19 | magnuse | and hiya cait |
| 09:19 | paul_p | hello cait |
| 09:19 | magnuse | yay for new beginnings! |
| 09:20 | cait | new_beginnings++ |
| 09:21 | and bon bout d'an to you paul_p and magnuse | |
| 09:21 | Oak | magnuse |
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| 09:21 | magnuse | Oak |
| 09:22 | Oak | new_beginnings++ |
| 09:22 | * magnuse | is gonna take a crack at signing off all of bug 1633 |
| 09:22 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1633 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, kmkale, ASSIGNED , Add ability to take book cover images from local img db |
| 09:23 | cait | magnuse++ |
| 09:24 | magnuse | can't wait for that to make it in! |
| 09:25 | Oak | :) |
| 09:25 | magnuse++ | |
| 09:25 | paul_p | cait ? could you take a few minuts to explain me bug 7345? I can't figure what this patch will add into Koha. I just see it as an undocumented feature. |
| 09:25 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7345 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, jcamins, ASSIGNED , Should be possible to export MARC records without private fields |
| 09:26 | cait | I think it can be a first part and we can add to the gui later |
| 09:26 | and it's documented on the bug :) | |
| 09:26 | perhaps I can write a follow up adding the option to the gui | |
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| 09:39 | greenmang0 | cait, ok, i added some records now ... |
| 09:39 | paul_p | cait, OK, it means I haven't missed anything. I think this patch should be "failed QA" without the effective option for the GUI. |
| 09:39 | greenmang0 | cait, in admin interface i am able to search them ... but not in OPAC |
| 09:40 | cait | paul_p: I will try to work on a follow up |
| 09:40 | paul_p | cait++ |
| 09:40 | cait | greenmang0: not sure, try the search faq? |
| 09:40 | search faq? | |
| 09:40 | wahanui | search faq is at http://koha-community.org/docu[…]on/faq/searching/ |
| 09:40 | cait | afk for a bit |
| 09:48 | greenmang0 | cait_afk, tried that, didn't help |
| 09:48 | biblio error 114 | |
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| 09:54 | dil | Can any one help me with the koha famework creation |
| 09:55 | When I start to create a framework it is taking up all the values around 900.. I need only 15 of them .. so does it mean that I have to delete the rest of the MARC record or is there any other way to do this | |
| 09:55 | When I start to create a framework it is taking up all the values around 900.. I need only 15 of them .. so does it mean that I have to delete the rest of the MARC record or is there any other way to do this | |
| 09:56 | paul_p | hello dil. Do you know how to do some SQL ? |
| 09:56 | dil | Not a techii |
| 09:56 | but yes | |
| 09:56 | I can | |
| 09:57 | Can you provide me with some link | |
| 09:57 | or document | |
| 09:57 | paul_p | if yes, you can unactivate what you want with : UPDATE marc_subfield_structure SET tab=-1 WHERE tagfield='XXX' (XXX= the tag you want to hide) |
| 09:58 | UPDATE marc_subfield_structure SET tab=-1 WHERE tagfield LIKE '9%' will hide all 9XX fields & subfields, and you can reintroduce the one you want manually after that | |
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| 12:04 | AmitG | Happy New To All :D |
| 12:04 | Happy New Year To All :D | |
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| 13:04 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
| 13:06 | jcamins_away | magnus_afk: when you are back at the keyboard, how did you manage to upload multiple images to a single record? |
| 13:06 | (when testing bug 1633) | |
| 13:06 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1633 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, kmkale, ASSIGNED , Add ability to take book cover images from local img db |
| 13:07 | jcamins_away | I can't do it! |
| 13:16 | magnus_afk: never mind, after a bit of fiddling I figured it out. | |
| 13:16 | magnus_afk: well, a lot of fiddling, but it's figured out. | |
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| 13:30 | magnuse | jcamins_away: it came quite natural to me... ;-) |
| 13:32 | jcamins_away | magnuse: yeah, my difficulties were user error. |
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| 13:33 | magnuse | jcamins_away: yay :-) |
| 13:34 | jcamins_away | magnuse: now that I see what the problem is, I just have to fix it. |
| 13:35 | magnuse | not too hard, i hope |
| 13:36 | jcamins_away | I hope so too! |
| 13:36 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7201] Hold to pull report needs extra fields <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7201> |
| 13:36 | jcamins_away | I'm doing a bunch of the enhancements while I'm at it. |
| 13:36 | magnuse | very cool! |
| 13:36 | jcamins_away | Might as well, since I have the rebase -i going. |
| 13:38 | tcohen | hi #koha |
| 13:42 | magnuse | hiya tcohen |
| 13:43 | tcohen | hi magnuse |
| 13:51 | paul_p++ for the monthly rm newsletter | |
| 13:51 | paul_p | thanks tcohen |
| 13:51 | (still here for one hour, then... see you next year !) | |
| 13:52 | (and in a few weeks, i'll celebrate the 10 anniversary of my 1st patch on Koha !!!) | |
| 13:54 | magnuse | paul_p++ |
| 13:54 | something to celebrate indeed! | |
| 13:55 | 7th committer, eh? | |
| 13:56 | paul_p | magnuse, 7th or 6th, I don't remember |
| 13:56 | magnuse | 7th according to the excellent timeline now included in the intranet ;-) |
| 13:58 | tcohen | paul_p: show I mark bug 6193 as need_signoff? |
| 13:58 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6193 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, tomascohen, ASSIGNED , Use memcached cache koha-conf.xml configuration variables |
| 13:58 | paul_p | tcohen, yes. Did I forget to do it ? sorry |
| 13:58 | jcamins_away | magnuse: revised patches posted. |
| 13:59 | Please test, sign off, and so forth. :) | |
| 13:59 | magnuse | jcamins_away: excellent! i think i will have time for it today |
| 13:59 | jcamins++ | |
| 13:59 | jcamins_away | Woohoo! |
| 13:59 | magnuse++ | |
| 14:00 | magnuse | well, let's see if i actually make it before celebrating too much, eh? ;-) |
| 14:00 | jcamins_away | magnuse: if I give you karma for it, you'll feel too guilty to not do it. ;) |
| 14:00 | magnuse | good plan! ;-) |
| 14:01 | jcamins_away | paul_p: so you know, I'm not terribly attached to bug 7345. If you want to mark it invalid, I am completely comfortable with that. |
| 14:01 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7345 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, jcamins, ASSIGNED , Should be possible to export MARC records without private fields |
| 14:01 | paul_p | jcamins_away, I think it's a good improvement. And a follow-up will please me a lot. So I think it should not be abandonned |
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| 14:04 | jcamins_away | paul_p: okay. Just wanted to let you know that you didn't have to find a way to reconcile the patch with your vision, if you disagreed with it. ;) |
| 14:05 | oleonard | magnuse: Why do you suggest that the thumbnails in jcamins_away's cover image viewer have alt="thumbnail" ? |
| 14:05 | jcamins_away | oleonard: that's one of the changes I made. |
| 14:05 | magnuse | oleonard: it seemed better than having alt=""? |
| 14:06 | oleonard | I think that if someone is viewing the page without images, "thumbnail" isn't useful information. |
| 14:07 | * jcamins_away | has no opinion. |
| 14:07 | * magnuse | neither, really - it was just a gut reaction to an empty attribute |
| 14:07 | oleonard | (In fact jcamins_away probably had the alt that way originally and I took it out) |
| 14:07 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6193] Use memcached cache koha-conf.xml configuration variables <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6193> |
| 14:08 | oleonard | My rule of thumb is that if the image doesn't convey important information the alt can be blank. This is a tricky situation since the purpose of the interface is image viewing |
| 14:08 | magnuse | yup :-) |
| 14:13 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #580 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 14:13 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7328 Expanded options in advanced search <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b54cec7291d12f430> |
| 14:15 | magnuse | you what? suddenly i can't see any content on the Home › Circulation › Checkouts pages in any of the installations i have checked... anyone else seeing that? |
| 14:15 | ebegin | Hello all ! |
| 14:15 | magnuse | or anyone who can take the time to log in as demo/demo here: http://head.bibkat.no:8080/cgi[…]rc/circulation.pl and tell me what they see? |
| 14:15 | hiya ebegin | |
| 14:16 | ebegin | magnuse, I can do that. hold on |
| 14:16 | magnuse | yay |
| 14:16 | ebegin | I get in the checkout page |
| 14:16 | http://head.bibkat.no:8080/cgi[…]rc/circulation.pl | |
| 14:17 | magnuse | and it looks ok? |
| 14:17 | ebegin | And don't see anything |
| 14:17 | magnuse | empty page below the breadcrumbs? |
| 14:17 | ebegin | i meant anything special |
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| 14:17 | ebegin | that is correct |
| 14:17 | magnuse | ah, so you see the box for the barcode and everything? |
| 14:19 | ebegin | yes |
| 14:19 | magnuse | weird |
| 14:19 | ebegin | oh, sorry, no... I mistake it with the top banner when we enter patron number |
| 14:20 | oleonard | http://screencast.com/t/lTwcneUZ What did you expect magnuse ? |
| 14:21 | magnuse | oh my |
| 14:21 | ebegin | thank you, oleonard. I was looking for such a server (screencast) |
| 14:21 | magnuse | i was expecting to see what i see after i have searched for the patron in the top box |
| 14:21 | wow, i need a holiday! | |
| 14:22 | sorry for messing with your heads, folks! | |
| 14:23 | ebegin | magnuse, don't worry, the year is almost over ;) |
| 14:23 | magnuse | :-) |
| 14:23 | oleonard | ebegin: I think it was nengard who introduced me to screencast.com and the associated software. Very useful. |
| 14:23 | nengard | http://bywatersolutions.com/20[…]ticket-reporting/ |
| 14:23 | :) | |
| 14:23 | ebegin | A quick question. How independant are library when independant branches is turned on ? |
| 14:24 | magnuse | nengard++ |
| 14:24 | ebegin | ha nengard, she is never far |
| 14:24 | nengard | :) |
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| 14:26 | tcohen | paul_p, as of that koha-conf.xml thing... do u think its ok the way I did or I should better just use setenv everywhere and leave the code alone? |
| 14:26 | magnuse | ebegin: there are some hints in the description of the syspref here: http://manual.koha-community.o[…]dependantBranches |
| 14:26 | tcohen | (besides it can be checked to actually work) |
| 14:27 | paul_p | tcohen, the best thing would be a complete rewrite of the memcache layer, to have a unique and standard management of it (and something that can evolve easily). atm, we have various ways to do it, including momoize or no,... |
| 14:28 | ebegin | nengard, are you using jing to record you tutorials ? |
| 14:28 | paul_p | so I would say= do it the simplest way, we will have to fix it anyway |
| 14:28 | ebegin | magnuse, thanks for the link |
| 14:28 | paul_p | (unless you want to rewrite everything, which I would applaude ;-) ) |
| 14:28 | ebegin | s/you tutorials/your tutorials/ |
| 14:29 | nengard | ebegin, no i use screenflow on mac for the tutorial videos - i use jing for short videos for tickets |
| 14:29 | tcohen | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]hment.cgi?id=6971 |
| 14:29 | i removed code handling the memcached stuff from libraries | |
| 14:29 | and instead reuse the memcached object i added to C4::Context | |
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| 14:31 | magnuse | o/ |
| 14:32 | paul_p | tcohen, I like it that way |
| 14:32 | tcohen | thanks, if there's any problem/bug with the code just let me know |
| 14:33 | i'll be at work 5 more hours | |
| 14:33 | paul_p | tcohen, I'll be here just 20mn, i think it will be for next year ;-) |
| 14:34 | tcohen | 2012 will be great year for all you koha folks |
| 14:34 | magnuse | yeah! |
| 14:34 | tcohen | my best wishes for u all |
| 14:34 | ! | |
| 14:38 | magnuse, the submit button appears in the wrong place | |
| 14:38 | magnuse | tcohen: huh, where? |
| 14:38 | tcohen | http://head.bibkat.no:8080/cgi[…]rc/circulation.pl |
| 14:38 | ? | |
| 14:39 | (it was you who asked?) | |
| 14:39 | magnuse | yeah, sometimes it wraps around and is displayed below the search box |
| 14:39 | yep, it was me - the problem was that i was expecting to see lots of stuff below the breadcrumbs... | |
| 14:39 | so the problem was between the chair and the keyboard... | |
| 14:41 | ebegin | That what I use to call a Code 13. The problem is 13 inches in front of the screen |
| 14:43 | magnuse | hehe |
| 14:45 | ebegin | A while ago, some support teams where also asking user to put " ID 10 T" in a .ini file. ID10T (Idiot) |
| 14:47 | tcohen | jejeje |
| 14:47 | magnuse | heh |
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| 15:03 | magnuse | o/ |
| 15:03 | oleonard | Hi wizzyrea |
| 15:03 | wizzyrea | heya |
| 15:04 | trea | o/ |
| 15:04 | wizzyrea | how is everyone today |
| 15:04 | ebegin | @wunder montreal canada |
| 15:04 | huginn | ebegin: The current temperature in Montreal, Quebec is -15.0°C (9:00 AM EST on December 30, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: -21.0°C. Windchill: -25.0°C. Pressure: 30.14 in 1021 hPa (Rising). |
| 15:04 | paul_p | hi wizzyrea |
| 15:04 | ebegin | cold... :) |
| 15:04 | paul_p | I don't know for "everyone", but for me, 2 things : |
| 15:04 | wizzyrea | oh my, no kidding it *is* cold |
| 15:05 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
| 15:05 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -2.0°C (3:50 PM CET on December 30, 2011). Conditions: Light Snow Showers. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: -4.0°C. Windchill: -8.0°C. Pressure: 29.44 in 997 hPa (Rising). |
| 15:05 | paul_p | * I leave in a few minuts |
| 15:05 | * I have the foundations of my sandboxes written, i'm happy | |
| 15:05 | @wunder marseille | |
| 15:05 | huginn | paul_p: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 12.0°C (3:30 PM CET on December 30, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady). |
| 15:05 | wizzyrea | ^.^ woohoo! |
| 15:05 | and good weather to boot :) | |
| 15:05 | paul_p | OK, in fact, I missed it was already 4PM. So I leave now ! |
| 15:05 | ebegin | wizzyrea, february reaches -30 |
| 15:05 | wizzyrea | brr |
| 15:06 | @wunder 66049 | |
| 15:06 | paul_p | have a good new year week-end everybody! |
| 15:06 | huginn | wizzyrea: The current temperature in Lawrence Live-Courtesy of the Khoury's, Lawrence, Kansas is 8.7°C (9:06 AM CST on December 30, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.79 in 1008.7 hPa (Rising). |
| 15:06 | magnuse | have fun paul_p! |
| 15:06 | paul_p | and see you next year! |
| 15:06 | wizzyrea | :D |
| 15:06 | magnuse | yay |
| 15:06 | oleonard | @wunder 61341 |
| 15:06 | huginn | oleonard: The current temperature in Ottawa Township High School, Ottawa, Illinois is 6.6°C (9:06 AM CST on December 30, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Windchill: 5.0°C. Pressure: 29.46 in 997.5 hPa (Steady). |
| 15:06 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #580: SUCCESS in 53 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/580/ |
| 15:06 | f.demians: Bug 7328 Expanded options in advanced search | |
| 15:06 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7328 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, ASSIGNED , Expanded options in advanced search |
| 15:06 | * ebegin | moves to Marseille |
| 15:06 | magnuse | \o/ |
| 15:07 | nengard | @wunder 19030 |
| 15:07 | huginn | nengard: The current temperature in Highland Park, Levittown, Pennsylvania is 3.5°C (10:04 AM EST on December 30, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: -0.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.17 in 1021.6 hPa (Steady). |
| 15:07 | ebegin | Even if I add montreal temperature to paul_p one, it still under 0... |
| 15:07 | nengard | BRRRRR |
| 15:15 | trea | okay question - checked out items dont' count the day they were checked out as one of their days, do they? Let's say an item was checked out 12/27, and due in 5 days. Would that make it due on 12/31, or 1/1 ? |
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| 15:20 | cait | hi #koha |
| 15:21 | magnuse | wb cait |
| 15:21 | trea | hi cait |
| 15:21 | cait | hi magnuse and trea :) |
| 15:21 | oh | |
| 15:24 | magnuse++ | |
| 15:24 | magnuse | final test for 1633: several images in a zip file... |
| 15:28 | * cait | crosses fingers |
| 15:32 | magnuse | hm, koha says "Failed to unzip archive. Please ensure you are uploading a valid zip file and try again." |
| 15:33 | it unpacks fine on my machine | |
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| 15:38 | magnuse | ah, it worked after i installed unzip on the vm - guess that's a dependency then... |
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| 15:43 | Topic for #koha is now Koha 3.6.2 & 3.4.7 & 3.2.11 are now available ; Next General IRC Meeting 4 January 2012 at 10:00 UTC+0 | http://www.koha-community.org | http://paste.koha-community.org | |
| 15:43 | * magnuse | can't think of any more edge cases to throw at bug 1633 and proceeds to signing off |
| 15:43 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1633 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, kmkale, ASSIGNED , Add ability to take book cover images from local img db |
| 15:46 | cait | cool |
| 15:46 | woohoo :) | |
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| 16:01 | cait | jcamins_away: around? |
| 16:02 | jcamins | cait: just got back. |
| 16:03 | Woohoo! | |
| 16:03 | magnuse++ | |
| 16:03 | cait | magnuse++ :) |
| 16:04 | jcamins | magnuse: hm, perhaps there should be a follow-up patch that adds unzip as a dependency. That's actually been a dependency all along, it just hasn't been listed as such. |
| 16:06 | cait: did you have a question? | |
| 16:06 | cait | oh yes |
| 16:06 | seems I volunteered | |
| 16:06 | to look at a gui thing for the 9xx | |
| 16:06 | jcamins | cait: yeah, I saw that. Thanks! |
| 16:06 | cait++ | |
| 16:07 | cait | give me karma once I have done it :) |
| 16:07 | * jcamins | is using the same strategy he used with magnuse: guilting you into doing the work. |
| 16:07 | jcamins | ;) |
| 16:07 | cait | ah |
| 16:07 | evil jcamins | |
| 16:08 | magnuse | jcamins: adding unzip as a dep could be a separate bug i think, since the patron image code also relies on it |
| 16:08 | jcamins | Bwahaha haha hahahaha! |
| 16:08 | magnuse: yeah, that was my thought. | |
| 16:09 | magnuse | cool |
| 16:09 | cait | ok |
| 16:09 | made a branch | |
| 16:09 | added your patch | |
| 16:09 | guilting works | |
| 16:09 | but I am also in a very good mood today :) | |
| 16:09 | wahanui | okay, cait. |
| 16:09 | jcamins | magnuse: any chance you could file a bug for that? I never remember my bugs.k-c.org login, and I'm not on my computer. |
| 16:09 | cait? | |
| 16:09 | wahanui | That's Ms. Cait to you! or in a very good mood today :) |
| 16:10 | jcamins | Heh. |
| 16:10 | magnuse | jcamins: will do |
| 16:10 | jcamins | magnuse: thanks. |
| 16:10 | cait | ok |
| 16:10 | so | |
| 16:10 | for the gui thing | |
| 16:10 | what do you prefer? | |
| 16:11 | jcamins | cait: the reason I didn't do anything with the GUI is that I figure no matter what choice we make, someone will object. |
| 16:11 | cait | well |
| 16:11 | we can try :) | |
| 16:14 | jcamins | cait: true. |
| 16:14 | cait: I think paul_p wanted a syspref that chose between including private fields or not including private fields? | |
| 16:14 | cait | yeah |
| 16:14 | sounds like a good way to start | |
| 16:14 | could you help me with the wording? | |
| 16:14 | jcamins | Include/Don't include private fields and subfields in MARC exports? |
| 16:15 | magnuse | jcamins: bug 7389 |
| 16:15 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7389 minor, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , List unzip as a dependency |
| 16:15 | jcamins | magnuse: thanks. |
| 16:15 | cait | what about the items? |
| 16:16 | I don't see why those are useful on export | |
| 16:16 | jcamins | cait: I don't think adding an additional option is necessary at this point. |
| 16:16 | cait | the fields are koha specific |
| 16:16 | jcamins | Right. |
| 16:16 | Actually, replace "private" with "non-standard" in the syspref. | |
| 16:16 | cait | ok |
| 16:16 | should we mention 9xx somewhere? | |
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| 16:17 | cait | as explanation? like you do on the bug? |
| 16:18 | jcamins | Yeah, that would probably be a good idea: "Include/Don't include non-standard (9xx, x9x, and xx9) fields and subfields in exports."? |
| 16:18 | cait | except 490 heh |
| 16:18 | jcamins | Right. |
| 16:19 | magnuse | #marcmustdie |
| 16:19 | cait | true |
| 16:19 | are you both going to be here in 10 mins still? | |
| 16:19 | * jcamins | will be. |
| 16:25 | * magnuse | will be eternally greatful to whoever can fix that timeout in git bz attach |
| 16:26 | magnuse | hm, guess i don't get the nast error i used to get now, but lots of HTML instead... |
| 16:29 | cait | magnuse: it's annoying for long commit messages, eh? :) |
| 16:29 | you can do git bz edit bugnumber first and obsolete, and attach later without -e | |
| 16:30 | magnuse | ah, cool |
| 16:30 | oleonard | Here's what I'm tinkering with today: http://screencast.com/t/XZDiaL1qNoB |
| 16:31 | jcamins | Ooh, I didn't know that. Nifty! |
| 16:31 | magnuse | git bz edit 1633? that gives me an error right off the bat... |
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| 16:32 | magnuse | oleonard++ |
| 16:33 | jcamins | oleonard: very cool. |
| 16:33 | oleonard | I need to figure out a way to make the links look/act disabled when nothing is checked |
| 16:33 | jcamins | oleonard: you know what else would be cool? If you could alert the user that their cart was full. |
| 16:34 | oleonard | Yeah, I've worked some on Bug 7011, but got stuck |
| 16:34 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7011 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, ASSIGNED , Warn the user that they have reached the limit of how many items they can have in their cart |
| 16:34 | jcamins | That makes two of us. |
| 16:34 | cait | http://git.fishsoup.net/man/git-bz.html |
| 16:36 | * jcamins | has also been thinking about the "select all results" issue. |
| 16:36 | jcamins | It's tricky. |
| 16:36 | I'm thinking we need a data structure to describe an arbitrary list of records. | |
| 16:38 | I'm also thinking that getting developers to agree to an implementation is going to be like herding lolcats. ;) | |
| 16:39 | magnuse: you're making it really hard to stay at Inbox Zero. ;) | |
| 16:40 | magnuse | yeah, sorry about that jcamins ;-) |
| 16:40 | jcamins | I forgive you. |
| 16:40 | magnuse | yay! |
| 16:41 | cait | hehe |
| 16:41 | * cait | hands out more cookies |
| 16:41 | jcamins | Mmm. |
| 16:41 | Delicious cookies! | |
| 16:42 | cait | heh |
| 16:46 | magnuse | there, 1633 is done! |
| 16:46 | cait | woot |
| 16:46 | awesome | |
| 16:47 | jcamins | Woohoo! |
| 16:47 | magnuse++ | |
| 16:47 | magnuse | time to wander off, might bbl, if not i look forward to seeing and collaborating with y'all in 2012! |
| 16:47 | oleonard | jcamins++ |
| 16:47 | magnuse | yeah jcamins++! |
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| 16:51 | cait | jcamins++ of course! |
| 16:51 | jcamins | Wow. Lots of karma. |
| 16:51 | @karma jcamins | |
| 16:51 | huginn | jcamins: Karma for "jcamins" has been increased 133 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 132. |
| 16:51 | cait | yep |
| 16:51 | you deserve it :) | |
| 16:51 | jcamins | @karma |
| 16:51 | huginn | jcamins: Highest karma: "rangi" (490), "oleonard" (412), and "wizzyrea" (273). Lowest karma: "<!" (-108), "failed" (-70), and "-" (-38). You (jcamins) are ranked 11 out of 1884. |
| 16:51 | jcamins | I'm number 11! |
| 16:51 | cait | heh |
| 16:51 | congratulations :) | |
| 16:51 | @karma | |
| 16:51 | huginn | cait: Highest karma: "rangi" (490), "oleonard" (412), and "wizzyrea" (273). Lowest karma: "<!" (-108), "failed" (-70), and "-" (-38). You (cait) are ranked 6 out of 1884. |
| 16:51 | jcamins | Thanks. :) |
| 16:51 | @karma kf | |
| 16:51 | huginn | jcamins: Karma for "kf" has been increased 125 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 125. |
| 16:51 | jcamins | @karma cait |
| 16:51 | huginn | jcamins: Karma for "cait" has been increased 220 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 219. |
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| 16:52 | cait | hi wizzyrea :) |
| 16:52 | jcamins | That's a lot of karma! |
| 16:52 | Welcome back, wizzyrea. | |
| 16:54 | wizzyrea | hi thar |
| 16:54 | * wizzyrea | sticks herself down with duct tape |
| 16:54 | * cait | helps |
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| 16:57 | * jcamins | gets stuck on the duct tape strewn about #koha. |
| 16:58 | pastebot | "nengard" at 98.114.30.184 pasted "report help: is it possible to replace codes with descriptions?" (10 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/174 |
| 17:00 | * oleonard | thought rangi had cait and kf's karma linked. Guess not. |
| 17:01 | * wizzyrea | too |
| 17:01 | cait | not sure that's possible |
| 17:01 | oleonard | Maybe that's just in the IRC stats |
| 17:01 | jcamins | I think every so often rangi moves kf's karma over to cait. |
| 17:01 | cait | I think he has done something for the chat statistic |
| 17:01 | I am not aware of that | |
| 17:01 | cait was always a bit better off than kf | |
| 17:01 | * cait | doesn't know |
| 17:01 | * jcamins | doesn't either. |
| 17:02 | nengard | so confused :) |
| 17:03 | wizzyrea | @karma |
| 17:03 | huginn | wizzyrea: Highest karma: "rangi" (490), "oleonard" (412), and "wizzyrea" (273). Lowest karma: "<!" (-108), "failed" (-70), and "-" (-38). You (wizzyrea) are ranked 3 out of 1884. |
| 17:03 | wizzyrea | ! |
| 17:04 | nengard | any brilliant mysql ideas on this one> http://paste.koha-community.org/174 |
| 17:06 | * oleonard | wonders if he has to list fudge on his tax return |
| 17:06 | wizzyrea | ^.^ |
| 17:07 | jcamins | oleonard: the value was under $600, so I'm not issuing you a 1099. |
| 17:07 | oleonard | Whew! |
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| 17:12 | cait | nengard: I thinkj there is a way |
| 17:12 | i have copied something from the internet once, perhaps you could adapt that | |
| 17:13 | nengard: it's used to add the german weekdays to the date format | |
| 17:13 | http://paste.koha-community.org/175 | |
| 17:14 | nengard | cait that is so cool! |
| 17:14 | let me try that :) | |
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| 17:24 | pastebot | "nengard" at 98.114.30.184 pasted "new report thanks to cait" (17 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/176 |
| 17:25 | cait | cool :) |
| 17:25 | oleonard | Wow, I didn't know you could do that. |
| 17:25 | nengard | so awesome!! |
| 17:26 | sharing on the wiki | |
| 17:26 | it still shows codes for manual invoices but its still pretty awesome | |
| 17:32 | wizzyrea | really we ought to build that into the db somewhere |
| 17:33 | those descriptions I mean | |
| 17:35 | cait | it's still waiting for an overhaul |
| 17:35 | lots of untranslatable stuff because we put that into the db :( | |
| 17:35 | nengard | there are several not in the db: http://manual.koha-community.o[…]html#finescodefaq |
| 17:35 | cait | don't want to add to it really |
| 17:35 | I think another thing you could do | |
| 17:35 | make an authorised value | |
| 17:35 | and use that in your sql | |
| 17:35 | to resolve the codes into the correct descriptions | |
| 17:35 | jcamins | Agreed. |
| 17:51 | wizzyrea | ^^ qualifies as "in the db" |
| 17:51 | could make it part of the sample data | |
| 17:52 | nengard | the authorized values would have to be un-deletable |
| 17:52 | or would probably break all kinds of stuff | |
| 17:52 | cait | nengard: i was thinking to only use them for that |
| 17:52 | not tying them into the code | |
| 17:53 | not sure that's worth the trouble with the pending rewrite | |
| 17:53 | I am still hoping that will happen sometime | |
| 18:07 | wizzyrea | oh yea, the code wouldn't use them |
| 18:07 | oleonard about? | |
| 18:07 | oleonard | Yes |
| 18:08 | wizzyrea | question - is there a reason that the OPAC search box doesn't take focus on load? |
| 18:08 | I was going to fix it but maybe you have a good reason for not making it that way | |
| 18:08 | nengard | i thought it used to .... |
| 18:08 | could be wrong of course | |
| 18:08 | wizzyrea | it doesn't, I just checked |
| 18:08 | :) | |
| 18:08 | nengard | oh i know! I'm saying in the past I thought it did |
| 18:08 | wizzyrea | it does in the intranet |
| 18:10 | oleonard | I'm not sure about what it did and didn't do in the past, but I worry about conflicting with username/password entry |
| 18:10 | jcamins | nengard: it has not at least since 3.0.5. |
| 18:10 | wizzyrea | hmm explain |
| 18:10 | oleonard | Page starts to load, I start to enter my username and password. Focus switches to search box, I end up typing my password there. |
| 18:10 | nengard | jcamins - i imagine things all the time :) |
| 18:10 | wizzyrea | hmm ok |
| 18:10 | nengard | let's write it off as that |
| 18:10 | wizzyrea | well |
| 18:10 | I was thinking of using the html5 autofocus | |
| 18:11 | with a javascript fallback (or not) | |
| 18:11 | jcamins | nengard: it's easy enough to force it with jQuery, but that also means that you can't scroll using the keyboard. |
| 18:11 | rangi | @wunder nzwn |
| 18:11 | huginn | rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 13.0°C (7:00 AM NZDT on December 31, 2011). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Rising). |
| 18:11 | rangi | still raining |
| 18:11 | wizzyrea | blarg. |
| 18:11 | cait | oh :( |
| 18:11 | @wunder Reutlingen | |
| 18:11 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Reutlingen, Germany is 2.1°C (7:11 PM CET on December 30, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: -6.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 28.76 in 973.8 hPa (Steady). |
| 18:11 | nengard | @wunder 19030 |
| 18:11 | huginn | nengard: The current temperature in Highland Park, Levittown, Pennsylvania is 11.9°C (1:11 PM EST on December 30, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.13 in 1020.2 hPa (Steady). |
| 18:11 | cait | rangi: thought you had summer? |
| 18:11 | nengard | wow - warmed up here |
| 18:12 | rangi | http://www.metservice.com/nati[…]r/all-new-zealand |
| 18:12 | big cold front is sitting over the whole country has been for a few days | |
| 18:12 | last saturday it was about 25 about now | |
| 18:13 | wizzyrea | bug 7388 |
| 18:13 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7388 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, wizzyrea, ASSIGNED , rounded corners for side menus in staff client |
| 18:13 | rangi | all the new year concerts tonight will be rained out |
| 18:13 | wizzyrea | noooo! |
| 18:13 | rangi | yup |
| 18:13 | http://www.metservice.com/nati[…]-nz-colour-latest | |
| 18:14 | cait | :( |
| 18:14 | jcamins | @wunder 11375 |
| 18:14 | huginn | jcamins: The current temperature in APRSWXNET Jackson Heights NY US, Corona, New York is 9.4°C (12:48 PM EST on December 30, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.03 in 1016.8 hPa. |
| 18:14 | jcamins | huginn: hello? |
| 18:14 | huginn | jcamins: I've exhausted my database of quotes |
| 18:14 | jcamins | @wunder 11375 |
| 18:14 | huginn | jcamins: The current temperature in APRSWXNET Jackson Heights NY US, Corona, New York is 9.4°C (12:48 PM EST on December 30, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.03 in 1016.8 hPa. |
| 18:14 | jcamins | Hm. huginn's ignoring me. |
| 18:14 | rangi | but tomorrow or maybe the next day we will be back to normal |
| 18:15 | hmmm or not | |
| 18:15 | http://www.metservice.com/towns-cities/wellington | |
| 18:15 | crap until wednesday which is the day work starts again | |
| 18:15 | cait | ouch |
| 18:16 | rangi | and all the concerts are outdoors |
| 18:16 | jcamins | It's the world's way of saying "stop celebrating, damn it. I don't have unlimited supplies of grain for beer!" |
| 18:17 | liw | that reminds me, I should dig out the oilskin coat I bought in Wellington and reproof it so it works well again |
| 18:17 | rangi | :) |
| 18:22 | http://www.stuff.co.nz/nationa[…]t-in-Oriental-Bay | |
| 18:22 | wizzyrea | holy moly |
| 18:23 | rangi | i like this bit |
| 18:23 | "That night, Quirk took the kingi to his mates at Newtown fish 'n' chip shop Fish Fins – the Volpicelli brothers – for filleting." | |
| 18:25 | * jcamins | likes the "random guy in the water." |
| 18:35 | nengard left #koha | |
| 18:44 | jcamins | wizzyrea: what's the Android tablet you have? |
| 18:47 | rangi | asus transformer |
| 18:47 | jcamins | rangi: thanks. |
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| 18:53 | jcamins | wizzyrea: enjoying your new laptop? |
| 18:53 | wizzyrea | yes, yes I am. |
| 18:54 | jcamins | :) |
| 18:54 | cait | have to eat dinner my dad cooked... yum |
| 18:54 | bye all :) | |
| 18:54 | trea | bye cait |
| 18:56 | rangi | cya cait |
| 18:56 | jcamins | Enjoy. |
| 19:00 | rangi | hmm |
| 19:08 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7387] Add Template::Toolkit plugin to allow caching of includes <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7387> |
| 19:09 | jcamins | rangi++ |
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| 19:17 | rangi | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]bin/bug_counts.pl |
| 19:17 | wizzyrea1 | 52! |
| 19:17 | we wanted below 50 for new year? | |
| 19:24 | rangi | well its 60 |
| 19:24 | its only 50 for master | |
| 19:24 | theres 10 more | |
| 19:24 | wizzyrea1 | oh right you are |
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| 19:29 | wizzyrea1 | on 6627, test by making sure no files are written into /tmp? |
| 19:32 | rangi | thats it |
| 19:32 | wizzyrea1 | k done and done. |
| 19:32 | rangi | :) |
| 19:35 | tcohen | hi, any recommended Perl OO reference for reading? |
| 19:38 | rangi | just the perldoc |
| 19:38 | tcohen | rangi: ok |
| 19:38 | rangi | and look at Class::Accessor |
| 19:42 | tcohen | interesting |
| 19:42 | wahanui | interesting is sometimes bad or sometimes good |
| 19:42 | tcohen | its currently used in Cache.pm and Templates.pm |
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| 19:46 | jcamins | tcohen: I don't think that's a coincidence. ;) |
| 19:47 | tcohen | rangi is blamed for them? |
| 19:48 | jcamins | tcohen: yep. :) |
| 19:48 | tcohen | :-D |
| 19:52 | rangi | :) |
| 19:52 | means u dont have to go round writing getters and setters | |
| 19:53 | jcamins | Ah, those were the days. When bits were bits, pixels were pixels, and accessing a variable in an OO manner involved at least 10 lines of code! |
| 19:55 | (one line to declare the variable, two lines for the getter and setter prototypes, six lines for the getter and setter functions [three each], and one line to actually access the variable) | |
| 19:55 | * rangi | is afk for a bit |
| 19:56 | oleonard | That sounds like the punchline to the nerdiest lightbulb joke ever jcamins |
| 19:56 | jcamins | oleonard: thank you. |
| 19:59 | tcohen | jcamins, class:accessor, Moose... is there any difference in terms of efficiency? |
| 19:59 | jcamins | tcohen: I have no idea, sorry. |
| 20:03 | tcohen | jcamins, thanks, i'm just courious about this |
| 20:03 | OO has some penalties in terms of abstraction layers and latency i guess | |
| 20:04 | jcamins | tcohen: I am of the opinion that the benefits in terms of programmer productivity and maintenance make the slight penalties worthwhile. |
| 20:05 | tcohen | i fully agree! |
| 20:06 | there was an RFC on this? | |
| 20:06 | jcamins | On what? |
| 20:07 | tcohen | OO |
| 20:07 | Koha and OO | |
| 20:07 | jcamins | Not to my knowledge. |
| 20:07 | tcohen | it was about using a ORM |
| 20:13 | rangi | you can't compare moose to this |
| 20:14 | class::accessor is a very useful screwdriver | |
| 20:14 | moose is liking dumping every tool in the world into every module | |
| 20:15 | s/liking/like/ | |
| 20:15 | jcamins | A moose once bit my sister. |
| 20:15 | No realli! | |
| 20:15 | tcohen | hehehe |
| 20:15 | rangi | its a full framework with a huge performance penalty |
| 20:15 | its not just choosing to write modules in OO style where it makes sense to | |
| 20:15 | jcamins | Mynd you, moose bites kan be pretty nasti. |
| 20:17 | * jcamins | may need to watch Monty Python to celebrate the New Year. |
| 20:18 | rangi | :) |
| 20:18 | bbiab | |
| 20:18 | tcohen | jcamins: that would be a great way to celebrate! |
| 20:18 | jcamins | A friend of mine always watches This Is Spinal Tap. |
| 20:19 | tcohen | albatross |
| 20:19 | albatrooossssss | |
| 20:20 | jcamins | :) |
| 20:22 | melia left #koha | |
| 20:23 | oleonard | working in the cart now too: http://screencast.com/t/uOgZdbpS |
| 20:23 | jcamins | @later tell sekjal Bug 1633 is ready for QA whenever you are. :) |
| 20:23 | huginn | jcamins: The operation succeeded. |
| 20:46 | trea | a moose once bit my sister... |
| 20:47 | jcamins | She was carving her initials in it with an intergalactic toothbrush given to her by her husband Sven. |
| 20:50 | Hey, this is weird. | |
| 20:50 | If you search for "aa" in the main entry ($a only) in the authority plugin, do you get every authority starting with a? | |
| 21:02 | oleonard | Bye #koha, Happy New Year |
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| 22:34 | jcamins | cait: isn't it a bit late for you? |
| 22:34 | cait | not that late |
| 22:35 | and today i am still on vacation :) | |
| 22:36 | jcamins | True. |
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