IRC log for #koha, 2011-12-27

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02:15 * jcamins_away waves to trea.
02:16 jcamins_away And everyone else on #koha.
02:19 Is git.k-c.org running slowly for anyone?
02:19 (other than me)
02:30 bag: if you happen to wander by, git.k-c.org seems to have some sort of bandwidth issue. I was getting speeds on the order of 18Kib/s.
02:30 *180
02:30 bag thanks
02:30 ah jared it's blazing fast for me
02:30 from here at least
02:31 jcamins_away bag: hm. Other servers on Rackspace are giving me >1MB/sec.
02:31 bag jcamins_away: are you just cloning?
02:31 jcamins_away bag: I was. I just found an old clone, copied that between my two servers, and did a fetch to fill in the gaps.
02:34 Weird.
02:34 A clone from here works fine.
02:34 Some sort of weird traffic shaping on that specific Rackspace segment?
02:34 Well, whatever it is, I have an up-to-date repo, so I'm going to go to sleep, and play in the morning. :)
02:34 Good night, #koha.
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03:21 AmitG heya chris, bag
03:22 bag hi there AmitG
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04:23 Oak kia ora #koha :o)
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05:01 Oak @wunder islamabad
05:01 huginn Oak: The current temperature in Islamabad, Pakistan is 9.0°C (10:00 AM PKT on December 27, 2011). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady).
05:06 AmitG @wunder New Delhi
05:06 huginn AmitG: The current temperature in New Delhi, India is 11.0°C (10:00 AM IST on December 27, 2011). Conditions: Fog. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady).
05:06 AmitG @wunder
05:06 huginn AmitG: (wunder <US zip code | US/Canada city, state | Foreign city, country>) -- Returns the approximate weather conditions for a given city.
05:07 AmitG @wunder Bangalore
05:07 huginn AmitG: The current temperature in Bangalore, India is 16.0°C (8:30 AM IST on December 27, 2011). Conditions: Mist. Humidity: 56%. Dew Point: 10.0°C.
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07:36 francharb hi
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07:48 AmitG heya hdl
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07:53 julian_m hi
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08:07 asaurat hi
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08:18 gaetan_B hello
08:27 AmitG heya gaetan_B
08:28 gaetan_B hi AmitG :)
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08:39 jransom merry christmas everyone.
08:40 hdl1 merry christmas jransom
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08:42 jransom we are having a glorious summery christmas here. lots of card playing and ocean swimming
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08:43 hdl paul_p's children were playing with the snow :D
08:44 paul_p hello world (well, #koha, that's a lot of people but not the world :D )
08:45 jransom oh wow. i imagi NB e a white christmas would be pretty special ... and make a roast turkey dinner seem much more sensible
08:45 hell I paul and cait
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08:46 cait hi jransom and paul_p :)
08:46 jransom that was meant to be hello - and merry christmas
08:47 cait isn't christmas overnow? :)
08:49 paul_p jransom, in Marseille we say "bon bout d'an"
08:49 only during this week, between christmas & the new year
08:49 bon = good, bout= piece,  d'an = of year
08:49 AmitG heya paul_p, jransom, cait
08:50 cait hi AmitG
08:50 jransom kind of maybe over ... tends to be 4 days of Christmas here then 3 days then 4 days of new year.. it all just blurs together into summer splendidness
08:51 or bon bout d`an
08:52 heya amit
08:56 dropped connection
08:58 cait bon bout d`an
08:58 jransom it is a nice phrase paul:-)
09:05 francharb no, jransom, "ça veux rien dire" ;)
09:05 hi there
09:05 wahanui hey, francharb
09:06 cait hi francharb
09:06 and what does that mean ? :)
09:06 francharb cait, it means "that means nothing"
09:07 cait, it's somthing i tried to teach to jransom
09:07 cait ah :)
09:07 francharb but apparently, kiwis cant pronounce the "r" sound...
09:07 ;)
09:07 cait not sure I could
09:07 you have to try to teach me next time:)
09:07 francharb for sure!
09:07 ;)
09:08 jransom sadly no ... the rs are elusive
09:09 i have to work tomorrow ... it is my turn sadly
09:10 would much rather spend another few days playing cards and swimming
09:10 cait understandable :)
09:10 * cait is on vacation :)
09:11 francharb raargghh
09:11 i'm not
09:11 but i will, in three weeks
09:11 cait didn't expect so many people working
09:11 between christmas and new year
09:12 francharb it's pretty smooth
09:12 most libraries are on vacation
09:13 cait same here :)
09:13 jransom i only have to work the 3 days inbetween then off until the 16th
09:13 most
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09:14 jransom most public libraries here are open between
09:16 francharb in france, public libraries have holiday hours
09:16 holiday schedule?
09:16 how would you say that?
09:16 anyway
09:17 academic libraries are usualy closed
09:20 jransom well my friends ... it is bedtime for me. have a great day:-)
09:20 cait sleep well jransom
09:21 francharb bye jransom
09:50 magnuse kia ora #koha!
09:50 Oak magnuse
09:50 hello miss cait
09:50 :)
09:50 magnuse Oak
09:53 ooh, just missed jransom
09:58 cait hi mr Oak :)
09:58 and hi magnuse :)
09:58 Oak :o)
09:58 magnuse guten tag cait
09:59 cait back at work magnuse?
09:59 magnuse yeah, trying to ;-)
09:59 and you, cait?
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10:00 magnuse gah, Ctrl-w in the wrong window...
10:00 cait HM
10:00 ah sorry caps
10:00 not back to work until january 2nd
10:01 planning to do some reading for the distance study today
10:01 magnuse ooh, lucky cait
10:01 good plan
10:01 cait boring plan :P
10:01 computer networks
10:01 * magnuse yawns
10:02 cait exactly
10:02 magnuse :-)
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11:34 tcohen hi #koha
11:34 magnuse hi tcohen
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12:14 jcamins Good morning #koha.
12:14 magnuse hiya jcamins
12:15 * magnuse takes the dogs for a walk
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13:22 nengard morning #koha
13:23 jcamins Morning.
13:23 nengard got a question for everyone :)
13:23 What does the match score of 1000 mean when staging records for import? How are things scored?
13:24 jcamins nengard: you set scoring.
13:25 nengard: using the "score" box, I think it's called.
13:25 Then you set what score is required using the "score required" box or something like that.
13:25 nengard got it!
13:25 I hate match points :)
13:25 never really learned about them
13:30 jcamins Good luck.
13:30 And now, I must buy poster board.
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13:34 oleonard Hi #koha
13:34 nengard hiya oleonard
13:35 oleonard Hi nengard, how are you feeling?
13:35 nengard nearly normal!
13:35 slept without pain meds last night
13:35 oleonard :)
13:35 nengard the worst part now ?. my belly is itchy!!
13:36 the wounds are healing
13:37 oleonard Here's to a healthy new year
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14:04 oleonard Hi jcamins
14:04 jcamins++ # for real-world fudge!
14:04 jcamins Good morning, oleonard.
14:04 I guess it was a hit? :)
14:04 oleonard Yes
14:05 jcamins Good! :)
14:05 oleonard The color-key, which seemed eminently logical to me, was the source of others' amusement :)
14:05 jcamins Well, how else would you have known what was what?
14:07 oleonard When your operation expands a little more you can develop fudge molds with distinctive flavor-specific shapes.
14:07 jcamins Yeah, that might be logical.
14:07 Though I can't help but think that machining silicone raspberry-shaped fudge molds will be a bit pricey.
14:08 oleonard You never know what you'll find out there: http://www.sugarcraft.com/cata[…]erts/CML-1228.jpg
14:09 nengard do we use the issuingbranch field in the issues table?
14:09 I didn't document that field
14:09 instead it looks like branchcode is used
14:10 oleonard yeah, it looks to me like branchcode stores the issuing branch
14:10 jcamins oleonard: do you know how many of those I'd need?
14:11 I made upwards of 800 individually-wrapped fudges.
14:11 oleonard Wow, jcamins
14:11 wahanui jcamins is supposed to be an outstanding cook. or well-traveled and brilliant. or trying to think of a solution, but short of a set of three sysprefs (ShelfBrowserUsesLocation, ShelfBrowserUsesCcode, and ShelfBrowserUsesHomeBranch), I don't really have any ideas. or awesome fixing broken email notifications or the wizard that forges queries in the deep fires of zebra
14:11 oleonard wahanui: You should put 800 pieces of fudge on his resume too
14:11 wahanui oleonard: what?
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14:27 gmcharlt @quote random
14:27 huginn gmcharlt: Quote #30: "< pianohacker> Dealing with me can indeed be painful" (added by chris at 09:34 PM, September 02, 2009)
14:30 oleonard @quote get context for #30
14:30 huginn oleonard: Error: 'context' is not a valid id.
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14:45 gmcharlt oleonard: if only
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15:00 oleonard Hi cait
15:01 jcamins Wow! Good catch. I didn't even see cait in between all the network hiccups in Lawrence. :)
15:01 cait hi oleonard :)
15:01 jcamins Good morning, cait.
15:01 cait hi jcamins :)
15:05 jcamins cait: how are you feeling? Cold any better?
15:05 cait yep
15:05 lots better today :)
15:05 jcamins Good!
15:05 cait trying to motivate myself to read the computer networks book for the distance study
15:05 jcamins You can do it! Computer networks are...
15:05 cool!
15:05 Very.
15:06 Right, oleonard and trea?
15:06 oleonard they're awesome. The more you read about them the more you want to crawl around running wires and plugging in stuff.
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15:08 cait more very boring :P
15:08 lol
15:08 trying to motivate me? :)
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15:18 jcamins cait: yeah, don't you feel motivated now?
15:23 cait not really"
15:23 ?
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15:33 paul_p hello everybody
15:33 oleonard Hi paul_p
15:33 * paul_p switches to mode "pushing patches" now...
15:33 jwagner Aren't you supposed to be on vacation, paul_p?
15:33 paul_p jwagner, no, it was last week
15:33 jwagner Oh.  Well, back to work, then!
15:34 paul_p we were in my family in law country. And ... we had 1 day of snow ! For our boys, it means it was really christmas ;-)
15:34 (in Marseille, snow once every 3 years...)
15:39 jwagner paul_p, where did you go?
15:42 paul_p jwagner, they leave near Macon, in a very small village (400 persons)
15:44 oleonard http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macon,_Belgium ?
15:45 jwagner I think I've passed through Belgium a time or two in traveling, but never yet had a chance to stop and visit. I'd like to, one day....
16:04 paul_p oleonard, nope, it's http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C3%A2con
16:09 oleonard Oh, cool. Thanks paul_p.
16:09 wikipedia++
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16:17 rhcl @seen jcamins
16:17 huginn rhcl: jcamins was last seen in #koha 59 minutes and 27 seconds ago: <jcamins> cait: yeah, don't you feel motivated now?
16:18 jcamins rhcl: Good morning. :)
16:20 rhcl hey, do you want to play with that koha machine? otherwise I'll just take it down.
16:20 jcamins rhcl: nah, just wanted to know if it would work.
16:20 I guess it did?
16:21 rhcl 'k. It does, so I'll shut it down.
16:21 jcamins Very cool. :)
16:21 rhcl Yea, I was surprised that koha (although with no data) seemed to run at normal speed in the vm
16:22 @seen gmcharlt
16:22 huginn rhcl: gmcharlt was last seen in #koha 1 hour, 36 minutes, and 55 seconds ago: <gmcharlt> oleonard: if only
16:22 rhcl ping gmcharlt
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16:27 rhcl @later tell gmcharlt I have koha running on deb in a VBox VM on top of an Ubuntu host on a dual-core Zacate E350 1.6GHz CPU - m-ITX MB. Let me know if you have any Q before I pack it away.
16:27 huginn rhcl: The operation succeeded.
16:28 cait oh wow
16:28 https://opacplus.bib-bvb.de/To[…]pContext=opendata
16:29 jcamins Awesome!
16:29 BVB++
16:30 gaetan_B bye!
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16:59 jcamins paul_p: are you updating master, or just the topic branches?
17:00 paul_p jcamins, master. But I push topic branches one by one, then one push on master for all of them at the end of the work, easier for jenkins results
17:01 jcamins Ah.
17:01 paul_p should push master in something like 30mn now
17:01 jcamins That makes sense.
17:01 Bet you're impressed I noticed that. :)
17:03 cait heh
17:03 working late paul_p
17:03 * cait sends some christmas cookies
17:05 oleonard good question jcamins, I was curious about that too
17:07 paul_p jcamins, well, you're not the 1st to ask ;-) (I should update my how_rm_push wiki page...)
17:07 jcamins :)
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17:13 vfernandes hi Koha community
17:14 one question: it's possible to know if one renewal was done in OPAC or in the Staff Client?
17:15 nengard oleonard can you think of any reason why on the staff side search results an ISBN would display that is not present in the marc record or the biblioitems table at all?
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17:16 oleonard Not off the top of my head nengard
17:17 cait vfernandes: not before 3.6
17:17 vfernandes :/
17:17 cait and then it depends on your system preference settings
17:17 there is a new system preference to determine which branch is recorded for renewals
17:17 and one option is opacrenewal
17:17 vfernandes i'm using 3.2.6
17:18 cait i don't think it's possible there...hm
17:18 perhaps by missing staff borrowernumber?
17:18 I think for staff renewals the borrowernumber of the staff person might be recorded
17:18 I would check 2 renewals, one from opac and one from staff and compare
17:19 vfernandes i'll try... thanks cait
17:19 oleonard nengard: Is the problem consistent?
17:19 rangi vfernandes: yep it is possible in 3.2.6
17:19 look in the statistics table
17:19 nengard oleonard it seems to be one record right now
17:19 rangi the ones who have a branchcode set for renewals
17:20 done in staff client
17:20 the ones who have null, done in opac
17:20 in 3.6.x the opac ones now have a branchcode, which is controlled by the syspref
17:20 nengard oleonard but it's one marc record on multiple systems doing the same thing
17:20 rangi so its actually easier to spot the ones done in the opac, before 3.6.x :)_
17:21 cait ah
17:21 listen to rangi :)
17:21 gmcharlt rhcl: pong
17:21 cait (usual a good advice)
17:22 vfernandes thanks rangi... rangi it's possible to know which staff has done the renew?
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17:24 rangi nope
17:24 unless you have the logging on for circulation
17:24 oleonard vfernandes: See also Bug 3483
17:24 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3483 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, jwagner, ASSIGNED , Show number of OPAC renewals
17:26 vfernandes i have but there is no circulation log for the item i'm looking for :/ strange
17:31 renewals operations aren't logged...
17:40 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: BUG 5607 : Adds parsing of issues fields in overdue letters <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]89bf90ccfca568ccd> / Bug 5565 UNIMARC to DC XSL tidy up <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ad6d8026ca547fe03> / Bug 5565 Default OAI UNIMARC to Dublin Core XSL adds superfluous blanks <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=k
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17:43 jenkins_koha Starting build #579 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED)
17:45 paul_p have a good day, time to leave for me. See you tomorrow !
17:45 rangi cya paul_p
17:50 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7333 - Fixing up db_dependent/Search.t to use sample data Thanks to Chris N.... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a5598bc01c82e5802> / Bug #6142 - Delete sub CanBookBeReserved and delete function's reference on @EXPORT <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]9e08d6884f2c1c3f0> / Bug 5729 - Add CoinS to intranet <http://
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17:51 rangi http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/project-health/?
17:53 @wunder wellington nz
17:53 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 17.0°C (6:00 AM NZDT on December 28, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Rising).
17:59 cait @wunder Reutlingen
17:59 huginn cait: The current temperature in Reutlingen, Germany is 3.3°C (6:59 PM CET on December 27, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 29.24 in 990.1 hPa (Steady).
18:03 bag @wunder 93109
18:03 huginn bag: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 16.0°C (10:02 AM PST on December 27, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 30.19 in 1022.2 hPa (Steady).
18:03 rangi for once i beat you!
18:04 cait wow
18:04 you really did
18:04 rangi hows that grill going bag ?
18:17 bag rangi: it doesn't arrive for another hour or so
18:18 and it's big so I can't lift it into place until someone big and strong stops over
18:18 rangi getting a crane to lift it?
18:18 bag http://grilldome.com/InfinityS.html
18:18 a red one
18:19 rangi going where your old one is now?
18:23 jcamins bag: which size?
18:23 bag yup going where the old one was
18:23 and getting rid of all those other ones
18:23 rangi ahh makes sense
18:23 bag the large one
18:24 jcamins "All those other ones"?
18:24 How much do you grill?!?
18:24 bag everything is grilled
18:24 :)
18:25 rangi jcamins: when its always summer ppl grill a lot :)
18:25 jcamins rangi: ah, true.
18:29 bag jcamins I used to have well until last night - a small hibachi, a kettle grill, a gas grill, a large brinkman smoker, and a small grill to bring to the beach
18:29 so I'm only keeping the small grill to bring to the beach
18:30 everyhing but the kettle grill (weber) was hand me downs..  this is really the first big grill that I am purchasing
18:30 the ceramics are the way to go
18:30 http://www.foodandwine.com/art[…]rill-a-love-story
18:33 jcamins bag: that'd be perfect for flatbreads.
18:33 Well, almost perfect.
18:33 rangi ok my stop bbiab
18:33 bag oh yeah
18:33 it's designed with some of the indian naan ovens in mind
18:40 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #579: SUCCESS in 57 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/579/
18:40 * oleonard: Bug 6880- Reason for suggestions do not save
18:40 * tomascohen: Bug 6193 - Use memcached cache koha-conf.xml configuration variables
18:40 * m.de.rooy: 6700: Better handling of version numbers in updatedatabase
18:40 * Chris Cormack: Test to check for XXX in kohaversion.pl or updatedatabase.pl
18:40 * frederick.capovilla: Use MARCAuthorityControlField008 in AddAuthority for empty 008s
18:40 * jcamins: Bug 7311: Only run analytics code if analytics are enabled
18:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6880 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Reason for suggestions do not save
18:40 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 7370 : Missing use call
18:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6193 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, tomascohen, ASSIGNED , Use memcached cache koha-conf.xml configuration variables
18:40 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 1623 - Provide view of approved comments
18:40 * f.demians: Bug 5565 Default OAI UNIMARC to Dublin Core XSL adds superfluous blanks
18:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7311 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, jcamins, ASSIGNED , Error when records have UNIMARC 461$0 or 773$0 for something other than bibnumber
18:40 jenkins_koha * f.demians: Bug 5565 UNIMARC to DC XSL tidy up
18:40 * sophie.meynieux: BUG 5607 : Adds parsing of issues fields in overdue letters
18:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7370 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, ASSIGNED , Longoverdue cronjob claims Undefined subroutine &main::LostItem
18:40 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: Bug 5729 - Add CoinS to intranet
18:40 * alex.arnaud: Bug #6142 - Delete sub CanBookBeReserved and delete function's reference on @EXPORT
18:40 * wizzyrea: Bug 7333 - Fixing up db_dependent/Search.t to use sample data Thanks to Chris N. for helping figure out that it was because there were no French stopwords in the DB that the test was failing.
18:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1623 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, RESOLVED FIXED, Retain history of approved comments
18:40 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5565 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, ASSIGNED , Default OAI UNIMARC to Dublin Core XSL adds superfluous blanks
18:40 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5607 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, sophie.meynieux, ASSIGNED , Make fields from issues table available in overdues
18:40 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5729 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED , Add coins information to the intranet
18:40 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6142 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, stephane.delaune, ASSIGNED , CanBookBeReserved function is redefined in C4/ILSDI/Utility.pm
18:40 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7333 trivial, PATCH-Sent, ---, wizzyrea, ASSIGNED , Cleaning up tests to use sample data
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19:57 rhcl hotdog
19:57 Conference topic proposal was accepted
19:58 cait grats
19:59 rangi what conference?
20:04 oleonard is getting the hang of filters :)
20:04 cait :)
20:04 filters are cool
20:04 oleonard I hope someone will smack me if I go too far
20:04 cait and the switch thing probably is too
20:04 hehe
20:04 there is a too far?
20:06 rangi well
20:06 i want to replace C4/XISBN.pm
20:06 sorry XSLT.pm
20:06 jcamins ++
20:06 rangi with | XSLT
20:06 that may be too far :)
20:06 cait try and find out? :)
20:07 jcamins No, too far is breaking your "mother"'s Christmas tree. Anything short of that is fine. ;)
20:07 So it looks like Myshkin is the only one who has gone too far today.
20:08 cait did he break the tree or the decorations?
20:08 jcamins Both!
20:08 cait myshkin!
20:08 wahanui well, myshkin is more than articulate enough without me performing his interior monologue.
20:08 cait but you can't really stay angry with a cat
20:08 jcamins No, and he was very sorry.
20:09 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7381] wrong isbn showing on the staff search results <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7381>
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20:09 cait he was?
20:09 that's surprising!
20:09 oleonard++ as usual :)
20:10 jcamins cait: well, he was sorry after a long time out.
20:10 Also, he was hit by a tree!
20:10 cait hehe
20:10 ok
20:10 that might make him a bit sorry
20:11 hm but he is a cat... I am not sure they get the concept of being sorry
20:11 more like... I got hit by a tree... next time I will kill it!
20:11 ibeardslee just for the short while, until they remember they are the rulers and you are just their slave
20:14 * cait agrees
20:15 git pulls
20:16 puts a plate of christmas cookies in the middle of #koha
20:18 jcamins Mmm.
20:18 Alas, the weather is awful.
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20:33 cait meh
20:33 I know the bug is in bugzilla and still I can't find it
20:33 how annoying
20:33 jcamins What's the bug?
20:33 wahanui the bug is always bad news, particularly if you haven't filed it yet.
20:34 cait I am searching for a patch chris hall did
20:34 in acq
20:34 to fix the annoying perl error message when you didn't fill out the item form correctly
20:34 chrisdothall cait: ohh 1 sec
20:35 cait oh
20:35 chrisdothall cait: http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7239
20:35 huginn 04Bug 7239: minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, henridamien, ASSIGNED , Acquisitions, add order to basket, from new, no item field filed, AcqCreateItem=ordering cause internal error
20:35 cait so another person crazy enough to work today? :)
20:35 hi chrisdothall :)
20:35 chrisdothall :)
20:35 cait and merry belated christmas :)
20:35 chrisdothall cait: hope you had a good xmas :)
20:35 beat me to it :p
20:35 cait yep and still on vacation :P
20:35 bug 4955 is a duplicate :)
20:35 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4955 critical, P5 - low, ---, henridamien, NEW , adding to basket with no item throws error
20:36 chrisdothall cait: so #koha is your vacation destination of choice?
20:36 cait hmm yes
20:36 * cait is probably addicted
20:38 cait ok
20:38 now I am searching for the bug where I complain about the 'gone missing' links on the acq budget table
20:38 the links led to reports for items ordered and received
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21:08 oleonard See y'all tomorrow
21:09 cait bye oleonard
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21:47 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 929] See details of a budget <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]ow_bug.cgi?id=929>
21:48 cait rangi++
21:53 wizzyrea whoa 929
21:55 cait yep
21:55 whoa 929 :)
21:55 hi liz :)
21:55 liz...
21:56 could you test something?
21:56 I have problems making a hold work in master
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22:09 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6787] NORMARC needs a Fast Add framework <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6787>
22:11 rhcl rangi: Connections 2012 - http://conferences.more.net/ - "Design and Implementation of an Open-Source Public Access Control (PAC) System"
22:11 rangi sweet
22:16 rhcl I'll be co-presenting with an Indian MS student at the local university. She's pretty sharp--I've pretty successfully converted her to Linux :)
22:18 rangi well done :)
22:21 rhcl she's doing most of the coding (C++ using the QT tools). It would be great of one if the Koha vendors grabs her after she graduates. I'm making sure she gets exposed to Koha pretty well as we do this.
22:21 she'll have to implement a SIP connection to the Koha database
22:22 cait hm you could perhaps use ils-di too for the PAC
22:22 rhcl ....great if one of the koha vendors...   got my tang all tonguled up
22:22 cait ah, pac.. not opac
22:22 * cait goes silent again
22:23 rhcl yea, where PAC = Public Access Computing (time and print controls)
22:28 trea hey folks, quick git question? can one specify the filesystem path a repo is located in? ie:
22:28 git log /my/path/to/repo
22:30 rangi no
22:31 not for git log anyway
22:32 trea that's what i had guessed, since i can't seem to find that argument in the docs
22:32 rangi youd need to cd to that dir then run git log
22:32 trea k
22:36 chrisdothall it is possible to do git --git-dir=/path/to/repo/.git/ log
22:36 need to make sure to include the /.git/ after the path to your repo it seems though
22:36 trea: ^^
22:37 cait hurtigkatalogisering++
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23:10 Brooke kia ora
23:10 rangi hi Brooke
23:11 Brooke hey hey
23:11 ibeardslee we're the monkeys
23:12 Brooke :)
23:12 * Brooke is too busy singing.
23:12 cait Brooke is busy singing. hm.
23:13 ibeardslee http://grooveshark.com/#/s/Hey[…]keys/3Chlna?src=5
23:13 Brooke you beat my YouTube link you bastage :P
23:13 ibeardslee go the youtube link as well
23:14 Brooke http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmH9ahaTt7k
23:14 ibeardslee I loved watching that programme on tv
23:15 Brooke me too
23:15 lest we forget
23:15 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zX28LD0MiFU
23:17 * Brooke notes that ibeardslee is one of the 8 Spartans guarding the interwebs at Catalyst today, and one of the dozen Kiwis at work,
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23:19 rangi thats only this floor theres probably at least 25 catalyst staff in the building
23:20 ibeardslee note that 'in the building' doesn't necessarily translate to 'working hard'
23:22 rangi nate is at brendans house?
23:24 ibeardslee I might go wandering for lunch now
23:24 Brooke so I have a weird question (possibly more observation or idea)
23:24 when someone works with the translation stuff (as in pootle)
23:25 you get all of those %s%s strings
23:25 and then you get strings of actual stuff to translate
23:25 like "This Patron is barred. Issue anyway?"
23:26 cait and the question? :)
23:26 Brooke presumably there are several categories of programming string which results in the %s%s gobbledegook
23:26 and presumably a lot of the stuff that actually needs translation is repetitive
23:26 is someone checking that just new stuff gets translated each go round or what
23:26 how's it work
23:26 why's it seem to forget where I was
23:26 stuff like that
23:28 cait um
23:28 not sure i get the question?
23:29 Brooke okay well one of the first parts is
23:29 why does it forget where I was?
23:29 I know I've looked at line 16 a bunch of times
23:29 bag @wunder 93109
23:29 Brooke but there it is again.
23:29 huginn bag: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 17.3°C (3:28 PM PST on December 27, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.11 in 1019.5 hPa (Steady).
23:29 rangi @wunder wellington nz
23:29 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 20.0°C (12:00 PM NZDT on December 28, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady).
23:30 Brooke just like if the whole string is "%s %s %s %s " as in string 10
23:30 rangi Brooke: do you have permission to actually change, or are you doing suggestions?
23:30 Brooke why the heck do I see that?
23:30 ah things were busted
23:30 they might still be busted
23:30 so everyone had permission to actually change
23:30 (oops!)
23:30 but I mostly suggest
23:31 I only actually change if I'm wicked sure.
23:31 rangi hmm
23:31 i dont have permission to change
23:31 ah, if i logout i do
23:31 fredericd should fix that
23:33 cait I have administration permission
23:33 but what is going wrong?
23:33 Brooke surely there is a how this stuff works guide for nubs that I am missing.
23:33 cait I still don't get it really
23:33 the rule is
23:33 copy the %s over
23:33 Brooke nothing technically is going wrong
23:33 cait unchanged
23:33 Brooke it just seems really freggin inefficient
23:33 cait it isn't
23:33 Brooke yes I know that because Marjana told me that
23:33 cait if the template is not touched
23:33 rangi if you leave fuzzy switched on, it will keep coming up
23:33 cait you will only have to translate it once
23:33 if it's touched
23:33 things will go fuzzy
23:34 and you can just go and check, submit again
23:34 yeah, and what rangi said :)
23:35 Brooke how much overlap is there between the ~74398 words in 3.4 and ~76367 in 3.6?
23:35 cait there might be some
23:36 I don't care about 3.4 right now
23:36 I only translate 3.6
23:36 Brooke (well hopefully no one cares about 3.4)
23:37 cait if someone cares, they can translate :P
23:37 Brooke right
23:37 Aedunno
23:37 cait what are you translating?
23:38 Brooke it just seems like it's not snowballing but I wouldn't know because I don't grok the basics yet
23:38 I was doing Irish
23:38 and then it disapparated
23:38 so I went over to Kiwi :P
23:38 Zeno seems to have polished off Italian
23:39 cait it will not magically move from 3.4 to 3.6
23:39 the files have to be dealt with separately
23:39 Brooke right which makes sense
23:39 does something compare the strings though?
23:39 as in if a string hasn't changed
23:39 then it doesn't need retranslation?
23:40 so the effort that theoretically went into 3.4 could be rolled forward to 3.6 if things were the same in terms of the template?
23:40 cait they are
23:40 the files for 3.6 were created from the files for 3.4
23:41 Brooke then how do you end up with a completion graph like this : http://translate.koha-community.org/en_NZ/
23:42 or was 3.4 so radically different from 3.2 that much had to be taken to the tip?
23:42 cait there is a lot of fuzzy
23:42 the dark red
23:43 between 3.2 and 3.4 really a lot of strings were added
23:43 I can only say the display can happen and makes sense to me
23:47 Brooke is there a way to make the %s stuff either disappear or behave like an authorised value in the template?
23:47 It's disconcerting to think stuff can break if folks don't carry that over properly.
23:48 cait ?
23:48 like an authorised value?
23:52 sorry Brooke, I can't follow
23:52 but having the placeholders is really improving translations
23:52 strings being cut into pieces is a translation problem
23:53 Brooke mm hmm
23:54 cait yes, you have to be careful, but it's worth it
23:54 I hate nothing more than when the programming is that it breaks up sentences so I can't translate them to make any sense
23:55 because the same short stirngs appear on different templates with different meaning
23:55 s
23:55 Brooke yeah why does it do that?
23:55 cait the way the templates are written
23:55 lazy programmers
23:55 Brooke is it just a human language v machine language reading problem?
23:55 cait trying to do it in a lazy way
23:55 ends up messy for translations
23:56 Brooke ah well ravioli water is ready
23:56 latah

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