IRC log for #koha, 2011-12-20

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Time Nick Message
00:00 bag I guess wahanui ain't around
00:00 rhcl bug 6123
00:00 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6123 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, Request to find borrowers without issues overload the server
00:00 rhcl huginn is alive still
00:00 huginn rhcl: I've exhausted my database of quotes
00:01 bag bug 1
00:01 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]show_bug.cgi?id=1 major, P2, ---, chris, CLOSED FIXED, Missing uploadedmarc table definition
00:01 bag I don't think I have ever looked at bug 1
00:01 rhcl bug 88888
00:01 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=88888 was not found.
00:03 bag bug 444
00:03 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]ow_bug.cgi?id=444 enhancement, P2, ---, paul.poulain, REOPENED , No where to add types for Manual Credit or Manual Invoice
00:03 rhcl /etc/init.d/wahanui -restart
00:04 ibeardslee ww?
00:04 rhcl well, time to leave before we get our 10 inches of snow...
00:04 bag oh wow
00:04 10 inches of snow!
00:04 thats exciting - a white christmas
00:04 @wunder sba
00:04 huginn bag: The current temperature in Santa Barbara, California is 13.0°C (3:53 PM PST on December 19, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.00 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
00:05 rhcl oh, I just kinda made that up, but it is supposed to snow. Amarillo is targeted for 15" though.
00:05 bag wow
00:05 @wunder rollin hills, mo
00:05 huginn bag: The current temperature in Hi-Lex Hudson, Hudson, Michigan is 6.7°C (7:05 PM EST on December 19, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016.1 hPa (Rising).
00:05 bag heh not even close
00:05 @wunder rolling hills, mo
00:05 huginn bag: Error: No such location could be found.
00:06 bag @wunder wellington nz
00:06 huginn bag: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 15.0°C (12:00 PM NZDT on December 20, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Rising).
00:06 bag got me beat today
00:08 rhcl @wunder 64505
00:08 huginn rhcl: The current temperature in APRSWXNET St.Joseph MO US, Saint Joseph, Missouri is 2.8°C (5:46 PM CST on December 19, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1019.9 hPa. Winter Weather Advisory in effect until 6 PM CST Tuesday...
00:08 rhcl @wunder amarillo
00:08 huginn rhcl: The current temperature in Oliver-Eakle, Amarillo, Texas is 0.1°C (6:08 PM CST on December 19, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 97%. Dew Point: -0.0°C. Windchill: -4.0°C. Pressure: 29.61 in 1002.6 hPa (Rising). Blizzard Warning in effect until noon CST Tuesday...
00:08 rhcl blizzard
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03:19 AmitG heya bag
03:19 heya chris
03:23 bag heya AmitG
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04:23 Oak kia ora #koha
04:31 eythian ka kite #koha
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04:35 rinzin hello koha comunity
04:36 anybody there??
04:37 Oak yup
04:38 rinzin i have one problem
04:38 in installation of koha
04:38 while I attempt to run Makefile.PL I get the following message:
04:39 can't locate ZOOM.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /root/koha-3.04.07 /usr/lib/share/perl5/site_perl/
04:39 i am trying to install in Centos 5.6
04:39 so can you help me?
04:40 Oak not really. but someone will. wait.
04:41 rinzin okay
04:41 thanks
04:43 Oak while you are waiting, see these: http://goo.gl/epmWY http://goo.gl/zQyM1 http://goo.gl/Qm6oA
04:43 rinzin thanks
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05:21 cait good morning #koha
05:21 Oak good morning miss cait :)
05:22 cait hi mr Oak
06:07 silent this morning
06:08 Oak i like it
06:08 a little
06:11 cait you like silent mornings?
06:11 @wunder Konstanz
06:11 huginn cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is -2.0°C (7:00 AM CET on December 20, 2011). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: -5.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Falling).
06:11 cait br.
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06:12 Oak yup
06:26 @wunder islamabad
06:26 huginn Oak: The current temperature in Islamabad Airport, Pakistan is 16.0°C (11:00 AM PKT on December 20, 2011). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 31%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa.
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06:42 francharb morning #koha
06:50 cait hi francharb :)
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07:10 alex_a morning #koha
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07:14 Oak Bonjour alex_a :)
07:16 alex_a Bonjour Oak
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07:20 magnuse kia ora #koha
07:21 Oak magnuse
07:21 magnuse Oak
07:31 cait hi magnuse
07:32 magnuse guten morgen cait
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07:53 matts hello biblibre
07:54 oups
07:54 hello #koha !
07:54 magnuse ooh, love it when there are 4 variants of the same string to be translated...
07:54 bonjour matts ;-)
07:54 matts ^^
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07:56 julian_m hi
07:58 magnuse bonjour julian_m
07:58 julian_m hello magnuse
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07:58 reiveune hello
08:03 AmitG heya reivenue
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08:09 gaetan_B hello
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08:14 rangi heya france
08:14 and norway
08:19 asaurat hi!
08:22 magnuse hiya nz
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08:25 kf hi again #koha
08:29 hdl hi
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08:32 rangi heya hdl and kf
08:47 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7266] overdue.pl : filter on flags "debarred" "suspended" and "gonenoaddress" not working <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7266>
08:49 kf heya rangi
09:11 wb matts :)
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09:33 AmitG heya gaetan_B
09:34 gaetan_B hi AmitG!
09:38 AmitG heya hdl
09:47 hdl hi AmitG
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11:48 magnuse @wunder boo
11:48 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -1.0°C (12:20 PM CET on December 20, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: -4.0°C. Windchill: -7.0°C. Pressure: 29.47 in 998 hPa (Steady).
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12:07 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7247] rebuild_zebra.pl -v should show all Zebra log output <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7247>
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12:25 slef ISIL?
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12:25 slef damn it where's wahanui?
12:27 hi wizzyrea
12:27 kf oh no
12:27 wahanui is missing
12:27 slef: was the question what an isil is?
12:27 international standart interlibrary loan something
12:28 slef nah, I was just after a link to the codes
12:28 kf ah, I think it dependson the country
12:28 slef http://www.loc.gov/marc/organizations/ suffices
12:28 not the same but most MARC code issuers are ISIL ones too I think
12:28 kf which does not make it easier to find them out, I tried a while ago for a list of libraries from multiple countries
12:28 yes
12:29 for germany the isil stems from the national sigel
12:29 slef http://www.loc.gov/marc/organi[…]ns/org-search.php ?
12:29 kf what are you looking for?
12:29 a list of all? or only uk?
12:29 slef various random stuff, sadly
12:29 but the search works for me
12:29 it was just that wahanui is better than google
12:30 kf most of the time :)
12:30 slef yeah not as stable though
12:30 anyone here trying yacy BTW>
12:30 ?
12:30 jcamins_away slef: OCLC has a list somewhere hard to find, I think.
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12:32 slef jcamins_away: isn't that true of most things? ;)
12:32 jcamins_away slef: yes.
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13:42 Raj Hello
13:57 jcamins Nice chatting.
13:58 magnuse probably just wanted to pop in and say hello...
13:59 nengard heh
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14:08 magnuse o/
14:10 trea o/
14:12 magnuse \o
14:12 jcamins \o/
14:13 magnuse \o/
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14:30 * magnuse imagines trea talking to himself on the phone
14:30 jcamins :)
14:31 trea totally
14:31 jcamins trea: did you have anything interesting to say?
14:31 :)
14:31 trea i was talking to myself about my theory of a donut shaped universe. naturally i told myself that was interesting, but ridiculous.
14:32 jcamins Heh.
14:32 magnuse lol
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14:35 jcamins I guess trea hung up on himself.
14:36 trea that guy's crazy
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14:52 gmcharlt @quote random
14:52 huginn gmcharlt: Quote #95: "< robin> to be honest, I think if you mention Koha and Perl, your CV could say your hobbies include puppy-kitten cage-fights, and you'd be snapped up :)" (added by chris at 09:36 PM, October 06, 2010)
14:57 magnuse huh?
14:57 * magnuse wanders off to dinner
15:05 wizzyrea lol - where's my YMCA
15:05 and good orning
15:05 morning*
15:06 jcamins Morning.
15:06 wizzyrea: I'm glad I'm not the only one who thouhg that.
15:06 * wizzyrea loves it
15:06 jcamins *thought
15:14 trea huginn seems to really love that quote for whatever reason.
15:14 huginn trea: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready
15:14 jcamins @quote random
15:14 huginn jcamins: Quote #68: "gmcharlt: which probably means that library schools ought to rename Cataloging 101 to Identification and Avoidance of Rabbit Holes 101" (added by wizzyrea_laptop at 08:17 PM, March 10, 2010)
15:14 wizzyrea ^^ that one always makes me laugh
15:15 @quote random
15:15 huginn wizzyrea: Quote #5: "<jwagner> Why is it every Koha rock I turn over produces a zillion (metaphorical) ants, each with a new question????" (added by kf at 01:13 PM, June 12, 2009)
15:29 wizzyrea has anyone contacted indexdata about them linking to the other koha website in their documentation?
15:29 I will but I didn't want to be redundant
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15:53 Amu Hi
15:54 Hi
15:54 jcamins Hello.
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15:55 Amu Hi
15:55 maximep Hi Hi Hi
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16:15 jcamins Project Muse is getting books.
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16:34 rhcl_away Project Muse - "Collapse and Uprising in Europe: The Right to Insolvency and the Disentanglement of the General Intellect's Potency" - I might actually try to read that one
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16:35 rhcl_here but I'm currently searching for a patch panel or small network room management best practices guide
16:35 any recommendations?
16:36 edveal How do I create an RSS for new books in Koha and then embed the RSS feed in a web page?
16:38 jcamins edveal: nengard wrote something up about that.
16:38 Basically you just do a search for all books and sort it by acquisition date.
16:38 wizzyrea or copyright date
16:38 depending on how you define "new books"
16:38 * wizzyrea has experience with this argument
16:39 jcamins edveal: but talk to wizzyrea about why embedding it in a web page is a bad idea.
16:40 edveal wizzyrea: please explain!
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16:40 wizzyrea as an example
16:40 gaetan_B bye
16:41 wizzyrea I had a library with about 10 different RSS feeds configured in the wordpress RSS widget. Their internet went down, and when it came back up, the 15x computers all went to the library home page, and wordpress, seeing that the RSS hadn't been updated, fetched all of them, for every client, at the same time, crashing the server.
16:42 that's an extreme case.
16:42 edveal But I get it...
16:42 wizzyrea 1. they had too many feeds 2. they weren't being cached properly to deal with that 3. they all hit the home page at the same time 4. the server was underpowered to deal with 60x rss feed pulls at the same time
16:43 or whatever the number is
16:43 jcamins Time to mail some fudge.
16:43 wizzyrea but you get the idea
16:44 2 and 4 have been fixed ;)
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16:46 wizzyrea 1. I can't do anything about, i have to let them do it.
16:46 3. is coincidence
16:52 hdl edveal: you may also use the cronjob rss.pl to produce the correct template.
16:53 edveal: see misc/cronjobs/rss/
16:53 And usage is quite straight forward.
16:54 wizzyrea i've never used the rss job.
16:54 hdl edveal: you have a README file in this directory.
16:54 sekjal wizzyrea:  it's pretty great
16:54 edveal OK
16:54 hdl wizzyrea: it is quite handy.
16:54 sekjal it's coded to handle more than just RSS
16:54 anything you can write a query and a display template for, you can automatically generate a page
16:56 wizzyrea neat.
16:59 hm the documentation for that needs to be updated for TT
17:02 hdl see ya
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17:13 jcamins_away @later tell oleonard If you haven't received anything from me by the end of the year, let me know.
17:13 huginn jcamins_away: The operation succeeded.
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17:31 mbalmer row level security is such a great feature of PostgreSQL ;)
17:34 maximep :p
17:36 rangi morning
17:38 maximep hey =)
17:39 magnus_afk kia ora rangi
17:40 jcamins_away Morning.
17:41 jcamins rangi: have you started getting up earlier, or am I just starting my days later?
17:41 rangi 6.30 not much earlier
17:42 * jcamins must be starting his days later.
17:51 rhcl_here yea, I noticed rangi's apparent earlier hours too
17:52 jcamins gmcharlt: around?
17:53 gmcharlt jcamins: yep
17:54 jcamins gmcharlt: sent you a PM.
17:55 rangi right time to feed the kids
17:55 * jcamins suggests that fudge probably isn't a good choice this early in the morning.
17:55 magnus_afk let them eat cake!
17:57 gmcharlt fudge cake!
17:57 jcamins Mmm.
17:59 rhcl_here hamburgers
17:59 jcamins rhcl_here: fudgeburgers?
17:59 Fudge patties on cake buns?
18:00 trea 001 for a title contains the control number, yes? is this number unique?
18:00 * trea is not a cataloguer
18:01 jcamins trea: yes, and no.
18:01 trea: actually, let me revise that.
18:01 trea: even odds, and, probably not.
18:01 trea: it depends on the library.
18:02 If you're lucky, they stuck OCLC numbers in 001.
18:02 If you're even luckier, they actually have internally-assigned control numbers.
18:02 sekjal Koha doesn't force uniqueness of 001.
18:02 jcamins Right.
18:05 trea: what are you trying to do with the 001?
18:06 trea i'm not doing anything personally with it jcamins - i was just trying to get clarification.
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18:06 cait hi #koha
18:06 :)
18:06 jcamins trea: speaking of experts on the usage of 001 fields, here's cait!
18:06 :D
18:07 cait ohoh
18:07 jcamins cait: trea is trying to understand the usage of the 001 field.
18:08 cait ok
18:08 what's the question?
18:08 I am still thawing
18:08 was at the xmas market :)
18:08 jcamins cait: goodness, lots of Christmas shopping!
18:08 cait and hot chocolate :)
18:08 * jcamins just has one more batch of fudge to make and a dozen or so loaves of bread.
18:09 cait I thik my fudge project has to wait for next year
18:09 jcamins Aww.
18:09 cait will have no time this week
18:09 * jcamins sends virtual fudge.
18:10 cait so, the question?
18:11 jcamins cait: not sure.
18:11 cait: trea was trying to figure something out.
18:12 trea i think the question has been answered cait. thanks anyway
18:12 cait ohok
18:13 jcamins sekjal: marcelr: magnuse: if anyone gets a chance, bug 7311 is waiting for QA.
18:13 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7311 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, jcamins, ASSIGNED , Error when records have UNIMARC 461$0 or 773$0 for something other than bibnumber
18:15 sekjal jcamins: thanks; will look if I can snag a little time.  may need to wait for the New Year, though
18:15 jcamins sekjal: it should be pretty quick.
18:15 sekjal: just figured I ought to point it out, given how quickly these things change.
18:16 cait I think is a blocker for our move to 3.6.x
18:16 so I support jcamins request
18:16 jcamins cait: an extra sign-off might make it more compelling. :)
18:17 cait I can try, but no promises
18:17 jcamins cait: it's already signed-off.
18:17 cait and I am ont sure it really will make it more compelling... lots of other things waiting for the first sign-off
18:18 jcamins cait: so it's mostly waiting for QA. But, if a second sign-off makes it more compelling for QA, might as well, right? ;)
18:18 sekjal looks like it just adding a conditional check around some Analytics code
18:19 jcamins sekjal: yup.
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18:34 rangi back
18:34 * cait waves
18:34 jcamins Kids fed?
18:35 slef fed to what?
18:35 jcamins slef: the great fudgeburger.
18:36 rangi the penguins
18:36 slef Tux sacrifices - the best thing to do with your kids this xmas
18:37 rangi on phone so can't easy look, but there are 2 bugs to do with caching and webservices, signed off, but need qa
18:37 I plan to use them for the os academy kids to build some funky widgets
18:38 slef bug 7248
18:38 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7248 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Caching for services
18:38 rangi (they let you mark a report public/private and cache the results, then fetch those results as json)
18:38 slef bug 7249
18:38 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7249 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Report webservices
18:38 rangi thanks slef
18:38 slef thanks huginn
18:38 I was using @query in a /query
18:39 rangi ahh
18:39 it also could be used to do new books in opac etc, with no cronjobs needed just a report
18:40 jcamins rangi: oh, already signed-off.
18:40 I was going to tell you that I just looked for things I could sign off, and didn't see anything I could handle, but that would be why.
18:41 sekjal rangi:  public reports, eh?  pretty nifty
18:41 rangi hmm there are a bunch by robin that might be worth looking at jcamins if you had time
18:42 also
18:42 jcamins rangi: I just looked at needs signoff. Might've missed, I suppose.
18:42 rangi I found out there is an nz style pie bakery in brooklyn
18:42 jcamins Or you may be thinking of the ones that are assigned to Robin where I wrote a follow-up patch, and now it's waiting for Robin's signoff.
18:42 Ooooh. Where?
18:43 rangi I forget the name but its in my browser at work
18:43 will find it for u
18:43 jcamins :)
18:43 rangi and ill look, if those are urs awaiting sign off I can sign
18:44 im running out of ones to sign, lots of catalyst ones waiting
18:44 cait hey
18:44 I did one this morning!
18:44 :)
18:44 can try to do more tonight, but first need tea
18:44 rangi :?
18:45 jcamins rangi: yeah, bug 6913 has a follow-up that needs signing.
18:45 rangi :) even
18:45 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6913 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, robin, NEW , Improving koha-list and koha-create
18:45 rangi ahh cool ill look
18:45 jcamins Thanks.
18:45 rangi++
18:55 rangi @wunder wellington nz
18:55 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 13.0°C (7:00 AM NZDT on December 21, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.39 in 1029 hPa (Rising).
19:01 rangi my stop bbiab
19:09 back
19:09 jcamins rangi: no coffee?
19:11 rangi ill make one in a bit (we have 2 espresso machines at work)
19:16 also
19:16 http://soundcloud.com/bobby-c-[…]-bobby-c-sound-tv
19:46 right thats new oneric packages built for koha
19:46 jcamins Woohoo!
19:46 rangi https://launchpad.net/~koha/+archive/koha-stable
19:46 https://launchpad.net/~koha/+archive/ppa
19:46 second one is master
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19:54 cait rangi++
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20:38 Brooke kia ora
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20:46 Brooke wb sekjal
20:46 sekjal howdy, Brooke
20:46 Brooke sup?
20:46 sekjal wrapping up tickets and developments before year's end
20:47 Brooke good on you!
20:47 * sekjal is very happy with this SQL for getting items that need overdue notifications set (according to triggers)
20:47 Brooke sweet
20:48 sekjal could be applied to overdue_notices.pl, and greatly simplify the whole thing, I think
20:48 Brooke yahoo
20:57 cait sekjal: does it account for holidays?
20:57 that's one big problem for us with overdues
20:58 sekjal no, it doesn't
20:58 cait we don't want overdue notices to be sent out when the library has closed, but similar to fines on the next possible opening day or not count the holidays
20:58 sekjal it just looks at the days overdue the material is
20:58 and if that's the same as one of the delay triggers, places it in the "send" file
21:02 talljoy heya!   I am running bulkmarcimport.pl for authorities  -a -file=filename -v -match=010 and I am getting an error http://pastebin.com/mkafc9M7
21:03 cait sekjal: hm
21:03 so the value for the delay trigger could be calculated differentl
21:03 y
21:03 hm no
21:03 I think I am too tired to figure out how it should work
21:04 dates always confuse me
21:04 sekjal cait: I did it all with pure SQL
21:04 Brooke go to sleep?
21:04 cait yeah soon
21:04 sekjal well, MySQL's SQL, as mbalmer would surely point out
21:04 uses TO_DAYS()
21:04 * Brooke never gets to say that to cait. >:)
21:05 jcamins talljoy: you're missing part of the match command.
21:05 Should be [010 index name],010
21:08 * jcamins returns with more bad news for talljoy.
21:08 jcamins talljoy: there is no index on 010.
21:09 sekjal LC-cardnumber
21:09 jcamins Probably should be.
21:09 sekjal: that's on bibs.
21:09 sekjal oh!
21:09 talljoy ok.  perldoc says i can use any field from 001 to 999   is it lying to me?
21:09 sekjal nevermind,then
21:10 jcamins talljoy: you can, but you can't match *existing* records without an index.
21:10 talljoy sigh.
21:11 jcamins talljoy: I'll give you even odds that you can match DLC records on Local-Number,001
21:11 talljoy yes, but that may cause issues with vtplag records.
21:11 jcamins Definitely will.
21:12 However, having two matches will cause issues anyway.
21:12 talljoy okay  where is documentation on the correct use of match in import?
21:12 jcamins talljoy: I don't think it is documented. I just figured it out by reading the code.
21:14 talljoy i guess i'm not seeing that
21:14 jcamins build_simplequery
21:14 Line 391.
21:16 mbalmer sekjal, I think I have a plan to overcome that mysql desaster.
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21:19 talljoy can i create an index on authorities?  what am in indexing when i reindex them?
21:19 jcamins talljoy: you could.
21:20 talljoy why didn't you say so.  that certainly helps my case here.
21:20 lol
21:20 jcamins talljoy: use authority-koha-indexdefs.xml and then do the transformation.
21:20 talljoy i will create index, reindex, reference index on import and voila.  right?
21:20 jcamins That's the principle.
21:21 rangi jcamins: testing 6800 now
21:21 jcamins rangi++
21:21 Brooke morena rangi
21:21 rangi hiya Brooke
21:21 unit_tests++
21:21 jcamins++
21:25 jcamins rangi: the unit tests are a bit contrived, but I can imagine a situation where someone modifying the subroutine broke it.
21:25 rangi yep
21:25 we could write some www::mechanize ones
21:26 to test it properly, by faking headers
21:26 but these will at least catch someone breaking that subroutine
21:26 jcamins That'd be excellent.
21:28 rangi ok, i can still login with the patch, first test passed :)
21:29 jcamins :)
21:30 talljoy I am adding a custom index for authorities.  add to record.abs, authority-koha-indexdefs.xml   anywhere else?
21:33 jcamins talljoy: not record.abs.
21:33 talljoy: see the documentation in one of the XSL files.
21:33 talljoy ok
21:33 jcamins No, in the xml file.
21:37 talljoy i put this in the authority-koha-indexdefs.xml file
21:37 <!-- 010 -->
21:37 <kohaidx:index_subfields tag="010" subfields="a">
21:37 <kohaidx:target_index>LOCNu​mber</kohaidx:targe_index>
21:37 </kohaidx:index_subfields>
21:37 i fixed the typo in target though....
21:37 jcamins talljoy: LOCNumber?
21:38 talljoy a new index
21:38 i suppose i could put it in local-number
21:38 jcamins Nope, can't use local-number.
21:39 talljoy okay then so what's the problem with calling it LOCNumber?
21:39 jcamins talljoy: I see the bib-1 attributes aren't specified for Authorities.
21:39 I'd call it LC-card-number, for consistency.
21:39 That's attribute 9.
21:40 talljoy fine.  i can call it goose egg for all i care.
21:40 jcamins :)
21:40 Brooke why isn't it LCCN by default?
21:40 talljoy who knows Brooke?
21:40 jcamins Brooke: 'cause LC hates consistency?
21:41 Brooke of course.
21:41 what was I thinking.
21:41 * jcamins has no idea.
21:42 talljoy so back to the original question.  is that the only place i need to put it?  when I create a custom index for biblios i put it in records.abs and bib1.att and ccl.properties
21:42 is the process the same for authorities
21:42 ?
21:42 jcamins bib1.att.
21:42 Not sure about ccl.properties.
21:43 talljoy i still don't see why i don't have to put it in the authorities records.abs file
21:44 jcamins 'Cause GRS-1 indexing for authorities is... ugh.
21:44 rangi right
21:44 * jcamins revises that statement: GRS-1 indexing. Ugh.
21:45 delivers his address "Searches in the hands of an ugly GRS-1 indexing configuration" in the tradition of Jonathan Edwards.
21:47 pastebot "rangi" at 202.78.240.7 pasted "Testing 6800" (24 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/160
21:48 jcamins rangi: cool! I didn't know you could test that without having a proxy set up.
21:49 rangi yup
21:49 curl is cool
21:49 you can fake whatever headers you want
21:49 which is why you should never trust them
21:49 or referers ;)
21:49 jcamins Right.
21:49 * jcamins didn't make up the rule that Koha should use remote IP for authentication.
21:50 rangi well its remote ip coupled with a valid session
21:50 jcamins Right.
21:50 mbalmer remote IP is not secure
21:50 jcamins Indeed it is not.
21:50 rangi thats why we dont use it by itself
21:50 mbalmer good
21:50 rangi we check that your ip doesnt change during your session though
21:51 mbalmer 128 bit random number, plus IP, and such games ;)
21:51 jcamins rangi: yeah, but as long as sessions are keyed to remote IP, it would be best not to have conniptions when someone with a non-transparent corporate proxy connects.
21:51 rangi exactly
21:52 im happy to sign off on this, doesnt break existing behaviour and works fine when coming from a different ip, but with X For Header set
21:52 jcamins Woohoo!
21:53 It seemed a shame to just give up on it, given that other people may encounter a similar problem.
21:53 (I managed to work around it, eventually)
21:54 rangi *nod*
21:55 ill add the testing instructions to the bug too
21:55 jcamins Thanks.
21:55 Yeah, your method was a lot easier than mine.
21:55 rangi im too lazy to install squid :)
21:58 jcamins Woohoo! I think that was the last patch of mine that needed signoff!
22:01 rangi sweet!
22:02 merry christmas :)
22:03 maximep I wish I had time to fix my patches that got rejected :/
22:03 rangi were they failed qa, or did not apply ones?
22:03 maximep latest was not apply from you
22:04 rangi if you want i can take a crack at rebasing it for you
22:04 if you give me a bug number
22:04 maximep bug 6832
22:04 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6832 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, pelletiermaxime, ASSIGNED , Validation of total > budget in neworderempty
22:04 jcamins Oh, wait. Bug 1633 hasn't been signed off yet. That one hasn't been outstanding for nearly as long, though.
22:04 maximep i think it's a pretty big bug fix
22:04 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1633 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, kmkale, ASSIGNED , Add ability to take book cover images from local img db
22:05 rangi ah yeah merge conflict
22:05 lemme see how scary it is
22:05 maximep yeah that file always has conflicts
22:06 well, not always -_-
22:06 rangi hmm small
22:06 pastebot "rangi" at 202.78.240.7 pasted "<<<<<<< HEAD } ff.submit(); ==" (21 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/161
22:07 rangi i reckon just replace the top bit by the bottom bit eh?
22:07 its only a whitespace conflict afaict
22:07 if you agree ill fix and put it back into needs signoff
22:08 maximep sure
22:08 that would be great =)
22:09 rangi done
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22:10 rangi and because its acquisitions cait will probably test it when she wakes up :)
22:10 jcamins rangi: question about bug 5166. I had a note that you said something about there being another implementation that was safer?
22:10 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5166 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, tomascohen, ASSIGNED , Reintroduce a zebraqueue daemon, make several rebuild_zebra.pl functions a lib
22:11 rangi oh
22:11 no i just was muttering about hating POE
22:12 and that we should use libevent
22:12 jcamins rangi: but there isn't actually an alternative?
22:12 rangi not that i know of
22:13 jcamins Okay, thanks.
22:18 sekjal night, #koha!
22:19 maximep thanks rangi !
22:19 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6832] Validation of total > budget in neworderempty <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6832>
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22:44 rangi http://www.flickr.com/photos/r[…]09/in/photostream
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22:50 rangi hmm is www.biblibre.com down for others?
22:56 ibeardslee http://www.downforeveryoneorju[…]/www.biblibre.com
22:56 jcamins Down for me as well.
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23:31 talljoy okay jcamins.  i added the LC-card-number to the authority-koha-indexdefs.xml (LC-card-number:w) and bib1.att  (att 9  LC-card-number)  and  perl ~/kohaclone/misc/migration_tools/bulkmarcimport.pl -a -file=AUTH.mrc -v -match="LC-card-number,010a" process 0 MARC records??
23:32 jcamins talljoy: that seems to me it should work.
23:33 talljoy me too.  it seems to at least not barf on index name.
23:33 seems like there is nothing in the index, though.
23:33 jcamins Did you reindex the authorities?
23:33 talljoy yes, but of course (in my best grey poupon voice_
23:33 jcamins Just checking.
23:33 talljoy :)
23:33 jcamins Stick a warn in bulkmarcimport, see what it's doing?
23:34 talljoy i'd rather see if the index is valid first, but i'm thinking that is harder?
23:35 jcamins talljoy: I never remember how to use yaz-client.
23:35 talljoy i've never learned :-/
23:35 * jcamins has to run, actually.
23:35 jcamins Good luck!
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