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00:05 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7140] Add item type description on the catalogue search and detail screens <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7140> |
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01:41 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 4 for job Koha_3.6.x (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE) |
02:05 | Topic for #koha is now Koha 3.6.1 & 3.4.6 are now available ; Next General IRC Meeting 7 December 2011 at 18:00 UTC+0 | http://www.koha-community.org | http://paste.koha-community.org | |
02:05 | chris_n | thar tis |
02:06 | rangi | chris_n++ |
02:06 | chris_n | automation++ |
02:07 | rangi | did 6629 not make it in? |
02:14 | chris_n | 3 6629 patches made it in |
02:14 | and one 6628 | |
02:14 | rangi | ah, just didnt see it in the release notes |
02:14 | chris_n | hmm |
02:14 | automation-- | |
02:16 | rangi | hehe |
02:16 | nice work anyway :) | |
02:19 | chris_n | weirdness |
02:19 | try this: | |
02:19 | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]C&query_based_on= | |
02:19 | in the "Content:" line I see 6629 | |
02:19 | but in the list it does not appear | |
02:20 | rangi | how odd |
02:20 | chris_n | bugzilla bug? |
02:20 | but that's why its not in the release notes | |
02:20 | rangi | could be |
02:20 | ahh makes sense | |
02:20 | chris_n | hmm |
02:20 | several bug #'s appear multiple times in the search string | |
02:20 | none of those appear in the lsit | |
02:20 | list | |
02:21 | I can fix that on my end, but I'd think BZ's search would handle that | |
02:21 | rangi | hmm |
02:21 | yeah that is odd | |
02:23 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.6.x build #4: STILL UNSTABLE in 41 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]job/Koha_3.6.x/4/ |
02:23 | * Chris Cormack: Bug 6629 : Sanitizing input from language cookie | |
02:23 | * Chris Cormack: Bug 6629 : Follow up to trap vuln in webinstaller and fixing the error | |
02:23 | * Chris Cormack: Bug 6629 : Follow up, sanitising in a couple more places | |
02:23 | * Chris Cormack: Bug 6628 : Stopping a potential vulnerability | |
02:23 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6629 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED , [security] insecure use of Cookie for language selection |
02:23 | jenkins_koha | * chris.nighswonger: Updating Version Number to 3.06.01.000 |
02:23 | * chris.nighswonger: Release Notes for 3.06.01.000 | |
02:23 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6628 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, ASSIGNED , [security] help system use insecure REFERRER for file inclusion |
02:28 | chris_n | still no joy |
02:28 | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]C&query_based_on= | |
02:28 | rangi | weird |
02:32 | chris_n | seems to be a malformed query |
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02:38 | chris_n | fixed |
02:38 | I pushed an updated copy of the release notes, but they'll be incorrect in the tarballs | |
02:39 | rangi | ahh that oughta be ok, we could change the one on koha-community.org .. and i think that would be fine |
02:40 | * chris_n | will do it now |
02:41 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 5 for job Koha_3.6.x (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE) |
02:42 | chris_n | fixed there too |
02:42 | ouch | |
02:42 | now utf8 is screwed up again | |
02:43 | * chris_n | has spent too much time working on the script |
02:44 | chris_n | ok, folks, sleepy time |
02:44 | rangi | sleep well |
03:22 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.6.x build #5: STILL UNSTABLE in 40 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]job/Koha_3.6.x/5/ |
03:22 | chris.nighswonger: Release Notes for 3.06.01.000 | |
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03:33 | AmitG | heya rangi, Robin |
03:33 | eythian | hello AmitG |
04:10 | Judit | http://xkcd.com/806/ |
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04:46 | Guest18653 | hi all |
04:47 | hope this messages finds you well. | |
04:48 | i am trying to install the latest koha 3.6 with ubuntu 11.10 but have found that I am getting a mysql_config error on the cpan component while installing DBD::mysql. | |
04:48 | If you guys can help that will be great as I find the installation is the same as with the liblime koha. thanks for your help in advance. | |
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05:05 | rangi | what distribution of linux are u installing on? |
05:05 | ahh ubuntu | |
05:05 | follow the INSTALL.ubuntu document | |
05:06 | u shouldn't need to cpan anything | |
05:06 | sudo apt-get install libdbd-mysql-perl | |
05:06 | for that one | |
05:07 | but if u really want to cpan it on, which I wouldn't recommend u need | |
05:08 | sudo apt-get install mysql-client | |
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05:12 | Oak | hello #koha |
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05:31 | cait | morning #koha |
05:40 | Oak | hello miss cait :) |
05:40 | cait | hello mr oak :) |
05:41 | Oak | need to make a presentation now for the project... |
05:45 | cait | oh |
05:45 | have you figured out the other things? | |
05:47 | Oak | kind of. at the risk of being wrong however. |
05:48 | decided to make a public library. | |
05:48 | and said Capital Development Authority and Ministry of Education will provide the funding | |
05:49 | and in conclusion, wrote that the library will work on alternative funding options to decrease its dependence on government funding... | |
05:49 | Brooke has kindly offered to help though :) i just emailed her the things | |
05:52 | indradg | gmcharlt, ping |
05:53 | Guest18653 | hmmm i c.. |
05:54 | indradg | rangi, around? |
05:54 | Guest18653 | perhaps we should not include that in the INSTALL.ubuntu doco..in 2.4 it says Install DB::mysql perl module |
06:00 | indradg | folks... i need to build an union catalog using Koha... well sort of... so was wondering if I can pick on the collective brains |
06:01 | the basic scenario is this - there are 20 something libraries on Koha 3.4 (version can be upgraded) being installed on their local on-premise servers | |
06:02 | these servers are independent of each other at the moment | |
06:02 | now, the management wants to build a central facility that will do the following | |
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06:03 | Oak | electricity... |
06:03 | indradg | (a) allow someone to see a search conducted across all 20+ libraries |
06:04 | (b) allow them to centrally see (as well as over an unified OPAC) how many of these items (that was sought) are out in circulation along with their holding branch | |
06:04 | (c) centrally retrieve circulation data and reporting | |
06:05 | Judit | 1library 20 branches? |
06:06 | indradg | (d) have a way for the central mgmt to see who is working on which module at the libraries |
06:09 | cait | indradg: not sure about that - seems a bit hard to do with different installatons |
06:12 | indradg | cait, what they are looking at would require some serious customizations imo |
06:12 | cait | yes |
06:12 | what is the main reason to keep them on different installations? | |
06:12 | indradg | uncertain nature of broadband connectivity in india |
06:13 | cait | seems like all they want is what you would normally do with a consortia |
06:13 | hm | |
06:13 | indradg | so even if the connection is down, they need the local library to go on functioning and re-sync / update the master |
06:14 | when the connection is restored | |
06:34 | cait | indradg: sorry, not alot of ideas about that |
06:34 | @wunder Konstanz | |
06:34 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -0.1°C (7:29 AM CET on November 29, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 30.26 in 1024.6 hPa (Steady). |
06:35 | cait | hm cold |
06:43 | indradg | cait, np :) |
06:57 | rangi | hmm that would be a huge amount of development |
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07:32 | magnuse | kia ora #koha |
07:32 | rangi | hi magnuse |
07:33 | alex_a | hello rangi |
07:33 | hello magnuse | |
07:33 | rangi | heya alex_a |
07:34 | magnuse | hiya rangi and alex_a and cait |
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07:38 | adminacct | indradg |
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07:39 | reiveune | hello |
07:39 | wahanui | bonjour, reiveune |
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07:46 | cait | morning magnuse and reiveune :) |
07:46 | and morning paul_p | |
07:46 | and bbiab | |
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07:46 | reiveune | hi cait, magnuse, and everybody :) |
07:46 | :-/ | |
07:47 | indradg | hiya reiveune |
07:48 | reiveune | hiya ;-) |
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08:04 | asaurat | hi! |
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08:07 | julian_m | hi all |
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08:08 | sophie_m | hello #koha |
08:08 | hdl | hi |
08:08 | rangi | hi france |
08:11 | francharb | hi |
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08:12 | kf | back |
08:12 | rangi | wb |
08:18 | fredericd | kf: Do you have your last German translation in 3.6.1? |
08:19 | kf | fredericd: sorry, not sure what you are asking? |
08:19 | I worked with pootle to translate the files up there, didn't upload anything new | |
08:19 | I checked them locally for fatal errors but all seemed ok, so I didn't do more than that | |
08:19 | fredericd | I'm not sure that last .po files have been added to 3.6.x branch |
08:20 | kf | ah |
08:20 | that could well be | |
08:20 | perhaps been forgotten :( | |
08:20 | fredericd | I don't see a commit for that |
08:20 | maybe | |
08:20 | kf | yeah, I didn't see one either |
08:20 | rangi | nope, it was released fast because of 6628 and 6629 |
08:21 | 6628 being the really nasty one for 3.6.x | |
08:21 | fredericd | I understand, I've seen |
08:21 | ++ to everybody involved in patching that security hole in the hurry... | |
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08:22 | indradg | as per Koha 3.4 schema is action_logs the table for maintaining audit trails? |
08:22 | rangi | ++ to the security people who emailed me too |
08:25 | indradg | rangi, ^^ |
08:27 | rangi | thats it indradg |
08:28 | indradg | but all the modules of Koha like setting up of basic params or say currency etc does not log anything to that table, does it? |
08:28 | rangi | nope |
08:29 | a lot of things are logged | |
08:29 | but not everything | |
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09:07 | indradg | rangi, so, if I want to add logging / audit trails to every other module that does not have it, it is simply including C4::Log.pm and calling the logaction() with the desired 4 parameters? |
09:07 | or is there something else that I should pay attention to? | |
09:08 | FWIW, I added logging to the currency modification and it seems to be working | |
09:08 | kf | perhaps make a bug? |
09:09 | rangi | yeah |
09:09 | kf | a super bug to add more logging and smaller bugs for each feature? |
09:09 | so can get tested and into koha | |
09:09 | magnuse | kf++ |
09:09 | rangi | thatd be the way to do it |
09:09 | and a way to turn them on and off, like the other logging | |
09:09 | kf | yep |
09:09 | system preferences under logs | |
09:22 | indradg | kf++ |
09:25 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7275] Pagination lost when click in the option "Show more" of facets column <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7275> |
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09:33 | Oak | presentation done \o/ |
09:33 | magnuse | yay |
09:33 | Oak | :) |
09:33 | magnuse | |
09:34 | magnuse | Oak |
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10:10 | magnuse | ooh, wish i was at http://swib.org/swib11/ |
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10:14 | magnuse | oh my, there's a live stream http://www.livestream.com/swib |
10:14 | Judit | shall i click on this?:) |
10:15 | magnuse | only if you are interested in semantic web in libraries |
10:15 | Judit | hm |
10:15 | let me see | |
10:15 | magnuse | it's a german conference, but most of the talks are in english, i think |
10:27 | kf | oh |
10:27 | perhaps I should have told you :) | |
10:27 | AmitG | heya kf :D |
10:27 | kf | one of my coworkers is there |
10:27 | hi AmitG | |
10:27 | magnuse | kf: cool! |
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12:13 | * jcamins_away | grouses. |
12:14 | kf | grouse? |
12:15 | jcamins_away | kf: about the direct response. |
12:17 | kf | huh? |
12:17 | ah | |
12:17 | dilip | |
12:20 | jcamins_away | Yup. |
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12:38 | * chris_n | looks in |
12:38 | chris_n | @wunder 28334 |
12:38 | huginn | chris_n: The current temperature in Erwin, North Carolina is 9.0°C (7:15 AM EST on November 29, 2011). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady). |
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12:46 | * jcamins_away | decides not to respond to that message. |
13:01 | francharb | hum |
13:01 | i 've got a question on the patron attibutes | |
13:02 | do you know what the "allow password" option is made for? | |
13:02 | it says "Check to make it possible to associate a password with this attribute." | |
13:02 | i tried to set up one | |
13:02 | and well | |
13:03 | it's still _not_ obvious how it works | |
13:03 | :( | |
13:03 | anyone knows | |
13:03 | ? | |
13:04 | hdl | francharb: maybe gmcharlt |
13:04 | francharb | humm |
13:04 | thanks hdl | |
13:05 | i will try later | |
13:05 | oh no, gmcharlt is connected | |
13:05 | :) | |
13:05 | jcamins | gmcharlt is always connected. :) |
13:06 | francharb | if by any chance, you have 2s for my question, i would be very happy gmcharlt ;) |
13:06 | jcamins, really? | |
13:06 | ok | |
13:06 | anyway, if anyone knows, well, let me know! ;) | |
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13:16 | kf | francharb: I think all it does is mask the input |
13:16 | francharb: making it little stars **** | |
13:16 | but no encryption | |
13:16 | afaik | |
13:16 | hi JesseM | |
13:16 | JesseM | Hi kf! |
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13:18 | francharb | well kf, it masks the infut when i modify the attribute but once i saved it |
13:19 | no more •••• | |
13:19 | weird | |
13:19 | kf | bug |
13:19 | jwagner | The password seems to serve no useful purpose -- once you've entered a password next to an attribute in a patron record, it doesn't use it to block changes to that field. |
13:20 | Which would seem to be the obvious purpose of it.... | |
13:22 | francharb | jwagner, sounds logical but at the same time, as a librarian, why would i want a password protected field in the patron record? |
13:23 | jwagner | I don't know. I can think of a few situations where staff might not want circ desk people to change data, but the field doesn't block changes by staff with less than superlibrarian rights. |
13:23 | oleonard | jcamins: That Koha 2.2.9 conversation unfolded exactly as predicted! :) |
13:24 | jcamins | oleonard: I know. |
13:24 | oleonard | The off-list reply couldn't have been more textbook |
13:25 | jcamins | Reassuring, isn't it? |
13:25 | ;) | |
13:26 | * jcamins | feels like perhaps he should have said that he's available for doing the migration. |
13:26 | jcamins | Seems like it might be a good way to dissuade further messages. |
13:27 | oleonard | All-expenses paid. |
13:28 | jcamins | oleonard: I meant remotely, but, hell yeah! |
13:28 | * jcamins | packs his suitcase for a trip to India. |
13:29 | jcamins | If only it had coincided with KohaCon. :\ |
13:30 | francharb | jcamins, i can see what you mean but if you are at the circ desk and have the privilege to modify borrowers records, then you can bypass the protection. if you dont have these privilege, well then, you can do nothing... |
13:30 | jcamins | francharb: uhhh... |
13:31 | francharb: oh, you're talking to jwagner. | |
13:31 | francharb | oh sorry |
13:31 | :( | |
13:31 | ;) | |
13:31 | autocomplete-- | |
13:32 | anyway, thanks jwagner | |
13:32 | i will try to dig that later! | |
13:32 | jwagner | Sorry I couldn't help. Looks like a feature that was never truly implemented |
13:33 | francharb | jwagner, i think so... i will try to find more about what was the idea behind before reporting this in bugzilla ;) |
13:34 | jcamins | Who did patron attributes? |
13:35 | francharb | i have no idea |
13:36 | hdl advice was to ask gmcharlt, maybe he is one who can tell us who did this | |
13:36 | * francharb | sounds dramatic |
13:36 | francharb | hehe |
13:45 | gmcharlt | what's the question? |
13:47 | jwagner | checking git blame on an older system blames that unknown person gmcharlt :-) |
13:48 | gmcharlt | francharb: ok, I've finished reading scrollback |
13:49 | francharb | any idea? |
13:49 | gmcharlt | the intention of the password feature in patron attributes is simply to allow more than one login password |
13:49 | I'm sure somebody wanted that back in the day | |
13:49 | but I doubt its commonly used, so I wouldn't be too surprised if it fell prey to bit rot | |
13:50 | francharb | thanks gmcharlt, i will test it! |
13:51 | jwagner | I just tested it, it doesn't seem to work in current head.... |
13:52 | kf | francharb: sorry, was helping a coworker - I think the idea is to store an additional field - like a pin for self check |
13:53 | francharb: and I think it should always display masked and is not related to teh other fields, only a separate password field, perhaps for another application or something | |
13:53 | francharb | thanks kf, thats what gmcharlt was just telling us! |
13:53 | :) | |
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13:57 | kf | ah, h ad not read back yet - sorry! |
13:58 | francharb | kf, jwagner and i tested it thinking it would give us another login/password |
13:58 | but you make me realise | |
13:58 | that it's just a way to store a login/password | |
13:58 | for a third application | |
13:58 | kf | something that is not supposed to be seen - I think |
13:58 | francharb | something you can export for exemple |
13:58 | yep | |
13:58 | kf | but should be masked everywhere to makse sense |
13:58 | I think | |
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13:59 | jwagner | gmcharlt, can SIP use that field? |
14:04 | gmcharlt | jwagner: no, doesn't look like its hooked into any authentication mechanism at present |
14:04 | jwagner | Oh, well. I had an idea for it, but doesn't look like it's feasible right now. Thanks. |
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14:30 | oleonard | Hi collum |
14:32 | collum | Hi oleonard |
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14:51 | libsysguy | morning #Koha |
15:02 | i ran a merge this morning and it broke all kinds of stuff with hourly | |
15:02 | so if you happen to be running hourly…don't update | |
15:02 | jcamins | Ugh. |
15:02 | I hope that was on a staging server? | |
15:03 | libsysguy | negative ghost rider :-/ |
15:03 | I got most of them taken care of quickly | |
15:03 | there is one that is going to take some time to stort out | |
15:03 | since all date functions are moving from C4::Dates to Koha::Calendar | |
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15:22 | rhcl_away | @seen wizzyrea |
15:22 | huginn | rhcl_away: wizzyrea was last seen in #koha 16 hours, 21 minutes, and 0 seconds ago: <wizzyrea> with my fush and chups. |
15:23 | kf | @roulette |
15:23 | huginn | kf: *click* |
15:23 | kf | @roulette |
15:23 | huginn | *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?! |
15:23 | * huginn | reloads and spins the chambers. |
15:46 | kf | bye all |
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16:17 | reiveune | bye |
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16:19 | Oak | kia ora #koha |
16:19 | magnuse | |
16:19 | jcamins | Oak |
16:19 | Oak | jcamins |
16:19 | :) | |
16:20 | magnuse | Oak |
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16:21 | Oak | cait left for home? |
16:21 | i guess... | |
16:21 | magnuse | yup |
16:21 | Oak | good :) |
16:21 | magnuse | hehe |
16:22 | * Oak | goes to turn on Windoze pc |
16:22 | magnuse | beware of the dark side, Oak |
16:23 | jcamins | Oak: she's donating blood. I imagine she'll be back in a few hours. |
16:23 | I think she may have the kind of blood that the blood banks always need. | |
16:23 | That way lies madness. | |
16:23 | And Koha 2.2.9! | |
16:23 | wahanui | koha 2.2.9 is *years* old, too |
16:24 | jcamins | wahanui: that's right. |
16:24 | wahanui | jcamins: what? |
16:24 | jcamins | wahanui: that's right is <reply>I know. |
16:24 | wahanui | OK, jcamins. |
16:24 | jcamins | that's right. |
16:24 | wahanui | I know. |
16:24 | magnuse | lol |
16:24 | Oak | aah. cool. |
16:28 | magnuse, no worries, i'll pull the plug the moment i feel disturbance in the Force. | |
16:28 | magnuse | yay! |
16:29 | jcamins | Oak: that's what Anakin said, and look what happened to him! |
16:29 | He fell into a volcano! | |
16:29 | Oak | hehe |
16:29 | jcamins | A pity they only ever made three Star Wars movies. |
16:31 | * magnuse | has some new for jcamins |
16:31 | magnuse | s/new/news/ |
16:31 | Oak | when cait returns we should all give her cookies. |
16:31 | jcamins | http://xkcd.com/566/ |
16:31 | gmcharlt | magnuse: what you're about to tell jcamins is purely imaginary ;) |
16:32 | magnuse | ok, better leave it alone then, perhaps |
16:32 | jcamins | :) |
16:33 | magnuse | lol |
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16:36 | Oak | :-D this is very good jcamins -> "Matrix Revisited" link.... |
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16:55 | * magnuse | had to google BOFH |
16:56 | jcamins | magnuse: ! |
16:58 | magnuse | bbl |
16:59 | jcamins | gmcharlt: Red Hat? I guess Evergreen runs on Red Hat better than Koha? |
17:02 | gmcharlt | jcamins: well, it runs on Red Hat |
17:02 | not my personally preferred distro, but there are enough libraries who use (and mandate) RHEL to keep the Evergreen port alive | |
17:02 | jcamins | Well, that would be running better than Koha does, I think. |
17:04 | * collum | is going to purchase the BOFH Omnibus. Book 2. for his kindle tonight. |
17:04 | jcamins | Bwahahahaha! |
17:08 | indradg | whats with the BOFH on #koha... who needs a cluesbat? |
17:08 | cluebat* | |
17:09 | @wunder kolkata | |
17:09 | huginn | indradg: The current temperature in Kolkata, India is 19.0°C (10:20 PM IST on November 29, 2011). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Rising). |
17:12 | jcamins | indradg: doesn't everyone need a cluebat? |
17:12 | You know what they say: "life is better when you have a big foam cluebat." | |
17:13 | jwagner | jcamins, I personally keep two bats in my office. One is foam, but the other one isn't.... |
17:13 | jcamins | jwagner: probably wise. |
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17:14 | jwagner | You never know when you'll need a nice emphatic baseball bat.... |
17:15 | indradg | jwagner, lol... very true |
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18:22 | cait | hi #koha |
18:22 | * jcamins | gives cait cookies. |
18:22 | cait | yay! |
18:23 | I have bought fudge ingredients :) | |
18:23 | jcamins | Yay! |
18:26 | schuster | something odd happened today and some records didn't get indexed by Zebra - so I want to "reindex" the whole thing at the end of today. Can I just run migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -b -a -z without stopping or starting anything in particular? |
18:27 | I discovered some logs that needed rotation REALLY bad too. | |
18:27 | hdl | schuster: yea... |
18:28 | schuster: I wouldnot play -b -a together. | |
18:28 | Since i think it doesnot work. | |
18:29 | jcamins | -a and -b work together. |
18:29 | cait | I didn't have any problems afaik, but not totally sure |
18:29 | jcamins | schuster: that won't reindex. |
18:29 | schuster: you need -b -a -r | |
18:29 | schuster: you have a pretty big catalog, so I would encourage you to disable the cron job. | |
18:29 | Up until I switched to XML indexing, I always did -b and -a together. | |
18:29 | hdl: you're thinking of -a and -x. | |
18:32 | libsysguy | random question: I am getting an account frozen message...I managed to track down that it is being caused by the patron having the debar flag set to 0000-00-00 |
18:32 | it looks like all patrons are set that way unless they are actually debarred | |
18:33 | cait | there is a bug for that |
18:33 | sip? | |
18:33 | wahanui | sip is enough to make me drink stronger things than wizzyrea's usual beer. Like whiskey. |
18:33 | libsysguy | oh is there |
18:33 | cait | yep since yesterday |
18:33 | libsysguy | ahh |
18:33 | cait | it's the fine in days breaking it |
18:33 | hdl | jcamins: the last time i used -b and -a together, i had big surprise. |
18:33 | cait | want me to find it for you? |
18:33 | libsysguy | grrr |
18:33 | cait | yes |
18:33 | grrrr | |
18:33 | hdl | So... being quite conservative. |
18:33 | jcamins | hdl: and you weren't using -x? |
18:33 | hdl | no. |
18:33 | jcamins | Or -w? |
18:33 | libsysguy | i've been looking at that all day...I thoguht it was an issue with the hourl ymerge |
18:33 | cait | libsysguy: 7272 |
18:34 | jcamins | schuster: *never* use -w |
18:34 | NEVER NEVER NEVER. | |
18:34 | libsysguy | bug 7272 |
18:34 | cait | libsysguy: if you want to fix it - talk to druthb |
18:34 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7272 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Fix for Bug 6328 causes user accounts to be frozen |
18:34 | cait | libsysguy: she asked me to look at it - ubt I can't test, should be someone who can test it |
18:34 | jcamins | You have been warned. |
18:35 | libsysguy | haha |
18:35 | well i can test...is there a patch | |
18:35 | cait | not that I know of |
18:35 | you might want to ask someone from bywater | |
18:36 | libsysguy | kk |
18:36 | cait++ | |
18:38 | schuster | ok so recap stop the cron job - then using the appropriate user - migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -b -a -r walk away... In the morning then reactivate the cron for update... |
18:40 | jcamins | Right. |
18:40 | schuster | Thanks for the advice... We've had weird stuff here lately. Monday before Thanksgiving the spiders hit, then today Zebra went wonky for 10 minutes ... It is time to upgrade! New hardware and softwre! |
18:40 | jcamins | Woohoo! |
18:44 | rangi | morning |
18:44 | schuster | Hey rangi great to see you... |
18:44 | I'm just getting ready to have lunch. | |
18:45 | rangi | im just on the bus to the reserve bank (like u federal reserve) |
18:45 | schuster | All well with your family? I saw the note about little one staying overnight, didn't know the backstory so hope all is well. |
18:46 | Don't rob the bank we need you... | |
18:46 | rangi | doing some koha training with them |
18:46 | schuster | whew... |
18:46 | rangi | ah he has chicken pox now! |
18:46 | but that was tonsils and adenoids | |
18:46 | schuster | Oh my... Personally never had them and neither did my grandpa... he lived to 94.. |
18:47 | Allergy problems? | |
18:47 | rangi | he still needs one more op on his stomach for reflux |
18:47 | schuster | Oh sorry that is so hard... |
18:47 | rangi | yeah he's a happy little chappy still |
18:47 | so we are lucky | |
18:48 | schuster | Thankfully both my boys have grown out of their allergy stages, we did have to do tubes in both ears. Then he had trigger thumbs so we had to have that operated on... |
18:48 | rangi | be nice to get it sorted tho, and get some sleep :) |
18:48 | ahhh | |
18:48 | schuster | Yep... I always felt so bad you can't comfort them enough when they are feeling sick. |
18:48 | rangi | yeah |
18:49 | schuster | well good luck with your training! Have a great day! |
18:49 | rangi | you too |
18:54 | slef | reports? |
18:54 | SQL reports? | |
18:54 | rangi | ? |
18:54 | slef | wiki? |
18:54 | wahanui | i think wiki is http://wiki.koha-community.org |
18:54 | jcamins | sql report library? |
18:54 | wahanui | well, sql report library is at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]L_Reports_Library |
18:54 | slef | damn wahanui |
18:54 | jcamins: ta | |
18:54 | jcamins | slef: I figured that's what you were going for. |
18:54 | rangi | slef: simon Phipps did a koha article in computerworld uk |
18:54 | slef | rangi: :-/ |
18:55 | rangi: Not seen it yet. Any good? | |
18:55 | rangi | dont have url on me |
18:55 | slef | IIRC he's webmink? |
18:55 | rangi | yeah not too bad |
18:55 | yep | |
18:55 | slef | usually ok on software, bad on org |
18:55 | rangi | could be a lot worse |
18:56 | I think glynn moody did one too | |
18:59 | slef | I've both them on identi.ca. Will grab in a mo. |
19:00 | cait | slef: can you share the link once you found it? :) |
19:00 | slef | cait: yeah |
19:00 | cait | thx :) |
19:01 | jcamins | cait++ # for making me laugh while I'm stressing about my handout for the presentation tomorrow. |
19:02 | cait | oh |
19:02 | jcamins++ for talking with me about sweets while he has to prepare a handout! :) | |
19:06 | rangi | hmm |
19:06 | what should I tell the students apply for the academy abot koha | |
19:06 | cait | ask for their favourite cookie flavor? ;) |
19:06 | rangi | meeting them tonight |
19:07 | brb bus stop | |
19:08 | time for coffee before meeting | |
19:08 | cait | :) |
19:08 | rangi | or training I should say |
19:13 | ok time for bacon even! | |
19:13 | brb changing to the free wifi | |
19:15 | this cafe rules! | |
19:15 | they are blasting out prince tui teka | |
19:15 | cait | heh |
19:17 | Oak | hello miss cait :) |
19:17 | * Oak | gives cait cookies with milk |
19:17 | cait | oooh |
19:17 | everyone giving me cookies today! | |
19:17 | and hi mr oak :) | |
19:17 | Oak | i may have suggested it... :) |
19:19 | you donated blood cait ? | |
19:19 | cait | um yes? |
19:19 | how do you know? | |
19:20 | jcamins | Oak was missing you, so I said you were donating blood, which was more important than being on #koha. :) |
19:20 | Oak | hehe |
19:20 | cait | aah |
19:21 | that makes sense :) | |
19:21 | Oak | hence the cookies |
19:21 | cait | I got no coookies |
19:21 | but got vegetable lasagne and potato salad :) | |
19:21 | after blood donation | |
19:21 | slef | http://wmk.me/rZ8GjW is webmink's article, http://bit.ly/tB0czF is glynmoody's |
19:22 | cait | slef++ |
19:22 | Oak | slef++ |
19:22 | slef | webmink is tons wide of the mark. "Koha and Why We Need Foundations" |
19:22 | jcamins | I need a nice collectible-related checkbox. |
19:25 | Oak | cait, you got no cookies? |
19:25 | cait | jcamins? |
19:25 | wahanui | well, jcamins is supposed to be an outstanding cook. or well-traveled and brilliant. or trying to think of a solution, but short of a set of three sysprefs (ShelfBrowserUsesLocation, ShelfBrowserUsesCcode, and ShelfBrowserUsesHomeBranch), I don't really have any ideas. or awesome fixing broken email notifications or the wizard that forges queries in the deep fires of zebra |
19:25 | jcamins | Yes? |
19:25 | cait | Oak: was cake or dinner, opted for dinner :) |
19:26 | no idea what you were saying | |
19:26 | jcamins | Oh. |
19:26 | I'm preparing a handout. | |
19:26 | Oak | okay good |
19:26 | jcamins | It includes a checklist. |
19:26 | I would like the checkboxes to be something nice and collectible-related. | |
19:27 | Oak | me go now |
19:27 | good night | |
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19:31 | cait | ah! |
19:31 | @wunder Konstanz | |
19:31 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 1.3°C (8:29 PM CET on November 29, 2011). Conditions: Mist. Humidity: 95%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 30.26 in 1024.6 hPa (Steady). |
19:31 | jcamins | That's pretty chilly. |
19:31 | @wunder 11375 | |
19:31 | huginn | jcamins: The current temperature in Middle Village, Queens, New York is 17.9°C (2:31 PM EST on November 29, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009.0 hPa (Steady). |
19:32 | rangi | @wunder wellington nz |
19:32 | huginn | rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 12.0°C (8:00 AM NZDT on November 30, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.51 in 1033 hPa (Steady). |
19:33 | jcamins | So... any thoughts for an appealing checkbox? |
19:33 | I was thinking an outline drawing of a coin, but I couldn't find any CC-licensed. | |
19:35 | cait | coin is the only idea I had too :( |
19:36 | jcamins | Ah! The old Chinese coin with square holes! |
19:36 | Wu-zhu? | |
19:38 | (I think that might be what they're called) | |
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19:59 | * magnus_afk | read that as "appaling checkbox" |
19:59 | magnus_afk | g'nigt! |
20:02 | rangi | cya magnus_away |
20:02 | chrisdothall | rangi: are you training today? |
20:02 | rangi | yup reserve bank |
20:03 | shouldn't take the full day though I think | |
20:03 | 2nd training session | |
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20:03 | cait | hi lizzy? :) |
20:04 | lizzy | hi :) |
20:04 | rangi | hi lizzy |
20:04 | * lizzy | has a nickname problem |
20:04 | glares at wizzyrea | |
20:04 | chrisdothall | heh |
20:05 | wizzyrea | that's much better :) |
20:05 | what's happenin. | |
20:06 | rangi | Hehe |
20:06 | wizzyrea | how's wee ata? |
20:07 | rangi | remarkably well |
20:08 | cait | :) |
20:08 | rangi | but can't go to school |
20:08 | wizzyrea | *nod* |
20:08 | rangi | so annoying his mum |
20:08 | Hehe | |
20:08 | wizzyrea | aww |
20:08 | chrisdothall | hehe a canadian just said to me " |
20:08 | jcamins | ''? |
20:08 | wahanui | '' are not there, sorry |
20:08 | chrisdothall | Ka kite ano!" |
20:08 | fail quoting. | |
20:08 | rangi | :) |
20:14 | cait | hi chrisdothall :) |
20:14 | what does it mean? | |
20:14 | chrisdothall | cait: http://www.tki.org.nz/r/maori/[…]ort_tereo_1_e.php |
20:15 | cait | ta :) |
20:17 | rangi | K better go |
20:17 | Bbl | |
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20:36 | oleonard | Just had someone ask me to reset their password... they thought that when I did so their browser's password auto-save would be updated with the new password :| |
20:37 | wizzyrea | oh my |
20:40 | jcamins_away | Wow. |
20:40 | ibeardslee | heh |
20:44 | schuster | Finally someone else understands my pain!! |
20:45 | ibeardslee | I used to tell people I'd email their updated login password. A number of them said thanks .. and then called back. |
20:58 | wizzyrea | ibeardslee: that is pretty awesome. |
20:58 | in a trollish kind of way. | |
20:58 | amusingly trollish. | |
20:59 | jcamins_away | Woohoo! |
20:59 | cait | done? |
20:59 | jcamins_away | Done. |
21:00 | And printed. | |
21:00 | cait | wooohoo :) |
21:09 | collum | @wunder 41017 |
21:09 | huginn | collum: The current temperature in Erlanger, Kentucky is 3.8°C (4:09 PM EST on November 29, 2011). Conditions: Light Drizzle. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 29.70 in 1005.6 hPa (Steady). |
21:15 | cait | night |
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21:31 | maximep | @wunder g2j0b4 |
21:31 | huginn | maximep: The current temperature in Lac Benoit, Quebec is -6.0°C (1:00 PM EST on November 29, 2011). Conditions: . Humidity: 97%. Dew Point: -6.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Rising). |
21:31 | maximep | so broken -_- |
21:32 | jcamins | @wunder eh1 2ny |
21:32 | huginn | jcamins: The current temperature in Edinburgh, United Kingdom is 5.7°C (9:32 PM GMT on November 29, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 85%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 29.31 in 992.4 hPa (Steady). |
21:32 | jcamins | Wow! I didn't know it would do that. |
21:33 | maximep | it seems to picks a random city in Quebec for me :S |
21:33 | jcamins | maximep: oh, it wasn't supposed to be Lac Benoit? |
21:33 | maximep | that has exactly the same stats as Québec |
21:33 | jcamins | @wunder g29j0b4 |
21:33 | huginn | jcamins: Error: No such location could be found. |
21:34 | jcamins | @wunder g2j0b4 |
21:34 | maximep | @wunder g2g1t7 |
21:34 | huginn | jcamins: The current temperature in Lac Benoit, Quebec is -6.0°C (1:00 PM EST on November 29, 2011). Conditions: . Humidity: 97%. Dew Point: -6.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Rising). |
21:34 | wahanui | i already had it that way, huginn. |
21:34 | huginn | maximep: The current temperature in lac st-charles, quebec city, Quebec is 2.7°C (4:34 PM EST on November 29, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.02 in 1016.5 hPa (Steady). |
21:34 | maximep | good enough, i guess |
21:34 | wizzyrea | @wunder 66049 |
21:34 | huginn | wizzyrea: The current temperature in Lawrence Live-Courtesy of the Khoury's, Lawrence, Kansas is 8.0°C (3:34 PM CST on November 29, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 35%. Dew Point: -7.0°C. Windchill: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.25 in 1024.3 hPa (Rising). |
21:35 | wizzyrea | hm, not awful |
21:35 | maximep | better than 100% humidity |
21:35 | wizzyrea | >.> |
21:35 | <.< | |
21:35 | maximep | alias rain |
21:36 | wizzyrea | clear days in kansas are the best days. |
21:36 | most days are partly to mostly sunny, it's really pretty rare to get a totally clear day | |
21:36 | only a very few clouds today | |
21:36 | maximep | haven't seen the sun here since 2 weeks |
21:37 | wizzyrea | http://feedproxy.google.com/~r[…]n/~3/w5-NEyfo3IQ/ jcamins, this seems relevant to your interests |
21:37 | jcamins | Uh-oh. |
21:38 | * jcamins | knows what he'll be doing the next time he has a half hour free. |
21:38 | wizzyrea | i mean, they've got marshmallows. |
21:39 | though they're yummy without too | |
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21:49 | aarkerio | hi! two weeks a go I sent an email to Kohal mailing list in order to be added in http://koha-community.org/support/paid-support/ |
21:49 | wizzyrea | hm, possibly I missed it, that happens sometimes |
21:50 | sorry about that | |
21:50 | you have a link to the message? | |
21:50 | aarkerio | I don't know if that happened because I have only an spanish page: |
21:50 | http://www.chipotle-software.c[…]/view/kohasupport | |
21:51 | should I translate and add the page in english? | |
21:51 | wizzyrea | not necessary :) |
21:51 | and I see this meets the requirements so I'll add it right now | |
21:53 | aarkerio | greeeaaatt! thanks a lot! |
21:55 | this is my info: | |
21:55 | http://mononeurona.org/admin/entries/edit/18247 | |
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21:58 | wizzyrea | mm that link requires a login |
21:58 | hmm even. | |
22:00 | eythian | tasty login-requiring link |
22:01 | nengard | anyone noticing that the exctactvalue sql function seems to be working different lately? |
22:01 | I have it ask for one subfield but it always seems to give me all of them | |
22:02 | eythian | maybe you need to specify xpath that limits to the first one. |
22:02 | jcamins | nengard: it gives you an entire DOM tree? |
22:02 | aarkerio | sorry: http://mononeurona.org/entries[…]ew/aarkerio/18247 |
22:02 | wizzyrea | ooh spicy :) |
22:02 | nengard | jcamins it gives me the entire field |
22:02 | so i want to see 856$3 for example | |
22:02 | wizzyrea | cool ty |
22:03 | nengard | and I see 856$3, $z, $u, $y |
22:03 | eythian | what's your xpath? |
22:04 | aarkerio: just fyi, your "Manuals" link is 404 | |
22:06 | aarkerio | eythian, thanks! |
22:17 | eythian | mm hotteenvindaloos.com. It's what's for lunch. |
22:17 | * wizzyrea | is afraid to click on that link |
22:17 | chrisdothall | hehe |
22:18 | eythian | Not Safe For People-Who-Don't-Like-Curry |
22:18 | * wizzyrea | loves curry |
22:23 | rhcl | A double order of Beef Vindaloo please. |
22:24 | eythian | You going to come pick it up? |
22:24 | wizzyrea | kekeke |
22:24 | eythian | cos it'll be ready in about an hour :) |
22:24 | rhcl | No, I want it delivered in <30 minutes. |
22:25 | wizzyrea | that is the most spartan website I've ever seen |
22:25 | rhcl | I'll starve at 50 minutes. |
22:25 | eythian | I'll let you know when fedex/customs finally release my new phone that has been sitting in wellington for the past few days. |
22:25 | wizzyrea: it's functional :) | |
22:25 | wizzyrea | i rather like it |
22:25 | garlic naan for 1.00 | |
22:25 | I can get behind that | |
22:26 | eythian | well, you get a regular naan by default. The 1.00 is for the upgrade. |
22:27 | wizzyrea | ooooo |
22:27 | still! | |
22:28 | rhcl | I have never known quite how you are supposed to eat naan. |
22:28 | eythian | open mouth. insert naan |
22:28 | jcamins | rhcl: I recommend chewing first. |
22:28 | wizzyrea | with curry! |
22:28 | jcamins | There are, of course, those who do not. |
22:29 | rhcl | Both of you seem highly qualified to be technical writers. |
22:29 | eythian | actually, where we were in India, the bread was used to make it easier to eat the rest of the stuff with your hands. |
22:29 | wizzyrea | ^^ that was my understanding |
22:30 | naan = edible fork | |
22:30 | well more like a spoon really | |
22:30 | rhcl | I remember eating something in Thailand at an Indian Restaurant. There are about 700 million Indians living there, and the restaurants are just about 100% India authentic. |
22:31 | I couldn't read the menu, just pointed to something I vaguely realize was dead sheep. It was nothing but bones. Tasty, but bones. | |
22:31 | jcamins | wizzyrea: eythian: hopefully you used your right hands. |
22:31 | rhcl | Similar thing in Vietnam. Just pointed at something chicken. Nothing but chicken skin. Chicken Skin. |
22:32 | eythian | jcamins: I only have one right hand. |
22:32 | mm chicken skin. | |
22:32 | jcamins | eythian: yeah, but wizzyrea has one too, doesn't she? |
22:32 | eythian | I don't know, though it seems plausible. |
22:32 | * jcamins | realizes that he's never actually seen a picture of it. |
22:32 | wizzyrea | naw, I type this fast with one hand |
22:32 | you should be familiar with that | |
22:33 | jcamins | wizzyrea: sorry to bring up bad memories. |
22:33 | * wizzyrea | laughs at her terribly awfully awful joke |
22:33 | wizzyrea | oh I made myself laugh |
22:34 | jcamins | wizzyrea++ # for ensuring that someone is laughing in #koha |
22:35 | :) | |
22:35 | wizzyrea | but yes, I would only eat right handed. |
22:35 | :P | |
22:36 | rhcl | melia must have had a long lunch. |
22:36 | melia | I always change that and then forget to go eat! |
22:36 | rhcl | probably chicken skin curry. Stuff is heck to chew. |
22:37 | jcamins | rhcl: lol |
22:37 | melia | LOL |
22:37 | eythian | I hope you both actually laughed out loud then, otherwise it's a lie! |
22:38 | melia | eythian: are you calling me a liar? |
22:38 | eythian | that depends, did you laugh out loud? |
22:38 | wizzyrea | look out eythian, she's going to get out "the look" |
22:38 | melia | yep. and I just did it again! :) |
22:38 | eythian | then no :) |
22:39 | wizzyrea: this look? ಠ_ಠ | |
22:39 | wizzyrea | isn't that the Dexter (from Dexter's Lab) look? |
22:39 | jcamins | eythian: I did. |
22:40 | eythian | I suppose it could be that too |
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23:07 | rhcl | http://arstechnica.com/gadgets[…]r-been-easier.ars |
23:07 | suppose it could tie into an opac and help patrons find books in the stacks? | |
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23:10 | eythian | wouldn't be nearly accurate enough inside a smaller building |
23:10 | I suppose if you had a lot of wireless access points, it could work | |
23:13 | jcamins | Would you call MARC a stream-oriented format? |
23:13 | * jcamins | would, but he's not sure that the heading "stream-oriented format" would make sense to anyone else. |
23:13 | eythian | I would, but I'm like that. |
23:14 | Also in the sense of "would throw it into a river if I could" | |
23:14 | jcamins | You'd like my subheading, then. |
23:14 | * Stream-oriented formats | |
23:14 | - Why MARC must die | |
23:14 | eythian | heh |
23:18 | * jcamins | makes an impassioned plea for requiring everyone to understand 2NF. |
23:25 | wizzyrea | hm there's probably money to be made in very-small-devices-specifically for wireless location within buildings |
23:26 | very small and cheap. | |
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23:42 | rangi | back |
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23:51 | * chris_n | 's 5 year old daughter just asked about "gigglebytes" :-) |
23:52 | jcamins | chris_n: gigglebytes are a measure of funny cat videos. |
23:52 | wizzyrea | haha your kid is awesome. |
23:52 | * chris_n | figured wizzyrea would get a kick out of that |
23:53 | wizzyrea | spud is in love with my "tabble ett" |
23:53 | jcamins | chris_n: see, this is one gigglebyte: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiz80CuDN8Y |
23:53 | * wizzyrea | notes that babies do that too |
23:53 | jcamins | chris_n: and this is about four gigglebytes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=go43XeW6Wg4 |
23:54 | Maybe five. | |
23:54 | wizzyrea | that is pretty funny |
23:55 | sekjal joined #koha | |
23:55 | chris_n | hehe |
23:56 | * jcamins | watches the kitten on the slide. |
23:56 | wizzyrea | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v[…]8&feature=related this one requires a new metric |
23:57 | * jcamins | finds the hamster ball funnier. |
23:57 | wizzyrea | yea that one's more cute |
23:59 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v[…]8&feature=related damn you. |
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