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| 00:00 | Phlunk3 | both rangi , sorry for late reply got calls |
| 00:01 | rangi | right |
| 00:01 | then yeah the usual, as fast as cpu and as much ram as you can afford | |
| 00:01 | cos running X uses a lot of both cpu and ram | |
| 00:02 | well x doesnt | |
| 00:02 | but all the stuff on top of it does ;) | |
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| 00:02 | Phlunk3 | thanks mate, doing this on the cheap as they will be gifted to the fijian town councils as an introduction to the system. |
| 00:02 | rangi | yup |
| 00:02 | you want to do it not too cheap | |
| 00:02 | or you will be doing them a disservice | |
| 00:03 | Phlunk3 | indeed |
| 00:03 | rangi | thats the balancing act |
| 00:04 | ibeardslee | I sort of do think it worthwhile running the server on a separate machine. helps the idea that koha itself doesn't have to be installed on each workstation. |
| 00:04 | also helps show people checking out books on a different workstation etc | |
| 00:05 | but does mean the added work of having a hub/switch and setting up the neworking | |
| 00:06 | rangi | yeah maybe phase 2 |
| 00:06 | Phlunk3 | yeah ibeardslee however this way we're able to set it all up here, I spent 2 days walking an "it officer" through the installation process, only to realise he didnt know how to even copy paste commands :P |
| 00:07 | they have a real server there now, sort of, had to have him install a gui on ubuntu so I could remote session through a program because he didnt know how to open a port on his router so that I could ssh lol | |
| 00:07 | rangi | we should send ibeardslee to fiji to set it up :) |
| 00:08 | Phlunk3 | if you're willing to sponsor a community member then please let me know ;) we have a librarian heading over at the beginning of December to introduce them to the system also. |
| 00:29 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7238] The SIPconfig.xml is stored in the C4/SIP dir <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7238> |
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| 00:45 | Brooke | o/ |
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| 00:56 | Brooke | homie g. Whaddup? |
| 00:58 | rhcl_away | I'm away |
| 00:58 | ? | |
| 01:04 | rangi | hiya Brooke |
| 01:05 | Brooke | morena |
| 01:31 | dani | :( Missed Brooke |
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| 03:00 | Brooke | o/ |
| 03:00 | rangi | wb Brooke |
| 03:00 | Brooke | :) |
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| 03:17 | Judit | HI |
| 03:17 | Brooke | hi Judit. |
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| 03:20 | AmitG | heya chris |
| 03:20 | :D | |
| 03:22 | Brooke | hi Amit |
| 03:22 | dani | Heya Brooke! |
| 03:23 | Brooke: I did the job hop thing this week. | |
| 03:23 | Brooke | howdy m'am |
| 03:23 | awesome! | |
| 03:23 | AmitG | heya Brooke, dani |
| 03:25 | dani | Hi AmitG! |
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| 03:33 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7239] Acquisitions basket, add order to basket, from new, Source of classification or shelving scheme being blank caused internal error <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7239> |
| 03:36 | rangi | rangi? |
| 03:36 | wahanui | I LIKE ALMONDS! HAVE SOME NUTS! |
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| 03:58 | Brooke | namaskar |
| 04:46 | Irma | Hi all |
| 04:48 | can anyone give me the link to the recommended server specs for a Koha implementation ....? I can't find this info yet thought it was in the Koha Manual... | |
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| 06:11 | cait | good morning #koha |
| 06:12 | @wunder Konstanz | |
| 06:12 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 1.0°C (7:00 AM CET on November 17, 2011). Conditions: Light Fog. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027 hPa (Rising). |
| 06:12 | jransom | morning Cait |
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| 06:15 | cait | hi jo |
| 06:15 | Judit | hi |
| 06:26 | cait | hi Judit |
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| 06:31 | cait | hi kmkale |
| 06:35 | Oak | oh hello miss cait :) |
| 06:36 | cait | hi mr oak :) |
| 06:37 | Oak | how are we today? |
| 06:37 | leaving for work? | |
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| 07:03 | cait | Oak: yes, soon |
| 07:03 | Oak: how are you today? relaxing after oyur exams? | |
| 07:03 | @wunder Konstanz | |
| 07:03 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -0.1°C (8:00 AM CET on November 17, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027.0 hPa (Rising). |
| 07:12 | cait | morning magnuse |
| 07:13 | Oak | well, not relaxing. on work. but yes, kind of relaxing. anything other than exams is relaxing. |
| 07:14 | too many 'relaxing's above | |
| 07:14 | magnuse | morning cait and Oak |
| 07:14 | Oak | magnuse |
| 07:15 | magnuse | Oak |
| 07:15 | Oak | got a light? |
| 07:15 | magnuse | i can find one? |
| 07:15 | Oak | never mind. i don't smoke. |
| 07:17 | cait | ? |
| 07:17 | Oak | i really should not quit my day job. |
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| 07:50 | reiveune | hello |
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| 08:27 | Schwitzd | Hello to everybody! |
| 08:27 | rangi | hi Schwitzd |
| 08:27 | Schwitzd | I have a question reguarding the book retourning |
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| 08:28 | kf | hi #koha |
| 08:28 | Schwitzd | For example |
| 08:28 | magnuse | hi kf rangi Schwitzd |
| 08:28 | Schwitzd | magnuse: ciao! |
| 08:28 | kf | god morgen magnuse :) |
| 08:28 | Schwitzd | How I can enable to send an email if the reservation is overdate? |
| 08:28 | kf | you mean if the patron has not picked it up? |
| 08:29 | in time? | |
| 08:29 | or when the hold is placed in the pickup area for the patron? | |
| 08:29 | Schwitzd | if the patron don't retourn the book |
| 08:29 | I set the patron can reserve the book for 20 days | |
| 08:30 | if don't retorn the book in this date I want to send to parton an email | |
| 08:30 | "your reservation is over date please retourn the book...." | |
| 08:30 | kf | rangi++ |
| 08:30 | ah | |
| 08:30 | I think you mean: checked out books that get overdue | |
| 08:31 | Schwitzd | yes |
| 08:31 | kf | http://manual.koha-community.o[…]ticetriggers.html |
| 08:32 | http://manual.koha-community.o[…]4/en/notices.html | |
| 08:32 | http://manual.koha-community.o[…]n/cronjobsch.html | |
| 08:32 | what you need to do is, configure an overdue notice and configure the cronjob | |
| 08:32 | depending on the time schedule you want to use, you will also need to set up your notice triggers | |
| 08:38 | Schwitzd | oky |
| 08:39 | the /process_message_queue.pl there is the cronjob | |
| 08:39 | kf | you also need the overdues cronjob |
| 08:39 | it prepares the mails, process_message_queue sends them out | |
| 08:41 | Schwitzd | is this one overdue_notices.pl, right? |
| 08:42 | kf | yes |
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| 08:43 | paul_p | hello everybody & good morning European ppl ! |
| 08:43 | kf | good morning Paul :) |
| 08:45 | magnuse | kia ora paul_p |
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| 08:58 | francharb | morning #koha |
| 08:58 | kf | hi francharb |
| 09:01 | magnuse | hiya francharb |
| 09:01 | francharb | hi kf, magnuse ! |
| 09:05 | Schwitzd | kf: oky |
| 09:05 | now my problem is the email is not generated... | |
| 09:05 | I have a overdue for one one user | |
| 09:06 | but the overdue_notices.pl don't generate the mail | |
| 09:08 | kf | how long is it overdue? |
| 09:08 | which parameters are you using for your overdue_notices pl? | |
| 09:09 | Schwitzd | nothing |
| 09:09 | the overdue is 21 days | |
| 09:09 | and no parameters | |
| 09:09 | kf | yeah |
| 09:09 | you have tot ell it what to do | |
| 09:10 | do you have a notice configured? | |
| 09:10 | Schwitzd | yes |
| 09:10 | kf | and notice triggers? |
| 09:10 | Schwitzd | yes |
| 09:10 | kf | ok |
| 09:10 | try starting with -t | |
| 09:10 | Schwitzd | no output |
| 09:10 | the is a verbose mode? | |
| 09:11 | kf | I think there is |
| 09:12 | try -h to see the options | |
| 09:12 | it's pretty good documented | |
| 09:12 | altough the script is doing too many things | |
| 09:12 | where do you check if the notice was generated? | |
| 09:12 | and where are you from Schwitzd? | |
| 09:13 | Schwitzd | on the db |
| 09:13 | message_queue table | |
| 09:13 | kf | message_queue |
| 09:13 | right | |
| 09:13 | ah | |
| 09:14 | if you use notice triggers | |
| 09:14 | and the thing is 21 days overdue | |
| 09:14 | you have to have one that has delay 21 | |
| 09:14 | it's only sending out notices on the exact day | |
| 09:14 | not in the range of days | |
| 09:14 | you can do that too, but without -t then | |
| 09:14 | using other options | |
| 09:16 | Schwitzd | I give you some print screen |
| 09:17 | kf | I was wondering abut your nick - where are you located? |
| 09:18 | Schwitzd | Switzerland |
| 09:18 | kf | ah |
| 09:18 | Sprichst du deutsch? | |
| 09:18 | Schwitzd | no :) |
| 09:18 | south of switzerland tessin | |
| 09:19 | kf | ah, I am from Konstanz |
| 09:20 | Schwitzd | :) |
| 09:24 | kf: http://imageshack.us/f/39/overdue.png/ | |
| 09:25 | kf | when your item is 21 days overdue, and your delays are 1 3 5 |
| 09:25 | no notice will be generated | |
| 09:25 | it's too overdue | |
| 09:25 | try setting your third to 21 | |
| 09:25 | to see what I mean | |
| 09:25 | Schwitzd | http://imageshack.us/f/254/issues.png/ |
| 09:25 | kf | when using -t it will only go out on the exact date |
| 09:26 | and I recommend studying the documention for the cronjob :) | |
| 09:26 | most information is in there | |
| 09:26 | Schwitzd | I read the documentation |
| 09:26 | also in one book | |
| 09:26 | but I don't now why the mail is not generated :S | |
| 09:26 | kf | I mean look at the source code for the job |
| 09:26 | to see the different options available | |
| 09:27 | because your overdue doesn't match the criteria | |
| 09:27 | for generating a notice | |
| 09:27 | with the configuration you use right now | |
| 09:30 | Schwitzd | kf: what I don't have understood is |
| 09:31 | the duedate for the book is 17.11 (today) | |
| 09:31 | kf | ah |
| 09:31 | yeah, not overdue at all then | |
| 09:31 | first notice you can send out is tomorrow | |
| 09:31 | what you can send out now is a due notice | |
| 09:31 | and that is controlled by the enhmessaging system preference and the preferences set in the patron's account | |
| 09:32 | and you need a due notice... sorry, I missed that before :( | |
| 09:32 | Schwitzd | wait I want to do a test |
| 09:32 | i set the duedate yesterday for this book | |
| 09:33 | (is a test enviroment) :P | |
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| 09:39 | kf | ah, there is also another factor |
| 09:39 | wahanui | okay, kf. |
| 09:39 | kf | hm. or no, that should work |
| 09:39 | delay = 1, date_due yesterday, overdue_notice with -t | |
| 09:41 | Schwitzd | \o/ |
| 09:41 | is working!!! | |
| 09:41 | kf | yay! |
| 09:41 | very cool :) | |
| 09:42 | another thing that is useful to know: | |
| 09:42 | if you have more than one book overdue for the patron | |
| 09:42 | it will only look at the oldest due date | |
| 09:42 | we have a bug open for that, but sadly it didn't make it in yet | |
| 09:42 | Schwitzd | ok |
| 09:42 | but I don't think is my case | |
| 09:43 | is a little company library | |
| 09:43 | :) | |
| 09:43 | kf | :) |
| 09:45 | Schwitzd | kf: thanks a lot for your help! |
| 09:45 | kf | you are welcome .) |
| 09:47 | rangi | kf++ |
| 09:48 | Schwitzd | kf: Use of uninitialized value $fine in string at /usr/share/koha/bin/cronjobs/overdue_notices.pl line 673. |
| 09:49 | now I have this message when I start the script | |
| 09:49 | magnuse | kf++ |
| 09:50 | Schwitzd | but is working |
| 09:53 | kf | ah |
| 09:53 | yes | |
| 09:53 | I always get that | |
| 09:53 | Schwitzd | oky :) |
| 09:54 | kf | I think it's something we should fix... but you can ingore it |
| 09:54 | you can output the fine for an item in the notice | |
| 09:54 | I think if there is no fine, it produces this warning | |
| 09:57 | Schwitzd | ok |
| 10:09 | kf | @wunder Konstanz |
| 10:09 | huginn | kf: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 3.0°C (11:00 AM CET on November 17, 2011). Conditions: Mist. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Pressure: 30.35 in 1028 hPa (Rising). |
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| 10:29 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
| 10:29 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 8.0°C (11:20 AM CET on November 17, 2011). Conditions: Rain Showers. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Windchill: 5.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady). |
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| 11:45 | kf | @wunder Konstanz |
| 11:45 | huginn | kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 3.2°C (12:40 PM CET on November 17, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027.0 hPa (Rising). |
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| 13:16 | NateC | Hello #koha! |
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| 13:19 | oleonard | Hello #koha too! |
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| 13:29 | JesseM | Morning #Koha |
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| 13:40 | kf | hi JesseM :) |
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| 14:17 | oleonard | sekjal, NateC, etc: Is ByWater involved in FulfILLment testing? |
| 14:17 | sekjal | morning, oleonard. no, not at this time |
| 14:18 | * oleonard | supposes since Equinox is a Koha provider they have their own resources for testing |
| 14:18 | JesseM | Hey kf! |
| 14:19 | kf | hey :) |
| 14:19 | and hi oleonard and sekjal :) | |
| 14:21 | oleonard | We're dealing with annoying bugs in the current state-wide ILL system and are told that they'll either upgrade VDX or switch to FulfILLment in January |
| 14:22 | ...but I hate being in the dark about the testing process | |
| 14:24 | jcamins_away | oleonard: testing? Why would you want that? |
| 14:24 | oleonard | I know, where's my spirit of fun and surprise? |
| 14:25 | jcamins | Next you'll be telling us that library patrons should be able to easily get books from other libraries in the state! |
| 14:25 | oleonard | Far be it from me to think that the first public library in Ohio should be in on testing an open source ILL system that is supposed to connect to Koha |
| 14:25 | first Koha public library that is | |
| 14:28 | kf | and hi jcamins :) |
| 14:28 | oleonard | Oh no, new Twilight saga movie premieres tonight and I'm out of sparkles! |
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| 14:30 | jcamins | oleonard: silly oleonard! :) |
| 14:30 | * oleonard | is just a poor planner all around |
| 14:30 | jcamins | kf: good morning. |
| 14:33 | kf | lol |
| 14:33 | oleonard++ :) | |
| 14:35 | magnuse | i was talking to someone a while ago about maybe having a live irc qa session with someone close to the fullfillment development... |
| 14:35 | get a little demo, get answers to koha-related questions, perhaps... | |
| 14:35 | kf | sounds like a good idea |
| 14:36 | magnuse | shouldn't be too hard to make that real |
| 14:36 | "how hard can it be?" ;-) | |
| 14:37 | got a plane to catch - see ya's! | |
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| 14:40 | * oleonard | sees bshum, moodaepo, and phasefx in the #fulfillment channel on freenode |
| 14:40 | oleonard | ...but everyone's just lurking |
| 15:01 | ...kinda like in here... | |
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| 15:02 | jcamins | oleonard: this is IRC. There's a several decade tradition of lurking. ;) |
| 15:04 | chris_n | @wunder 28334 |
| 15:04 | huginn | chris_n: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is 12.4°C (10:02 AM EST on November 17, 2011). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.47 in 997.9 hPa (Steady). |
| 15:05 | wizzyrea | kansas is going to be testing fulfillment too |
| 15:06 | oleonard | Heard anything about the process wizzyrea? |
| 15:06 | wizzyrea | @quote add jcamins: this is IRC. There's a several decade long tradition of lurking. |
| 15:06 | huginn | wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. Quote #166 added. |
| 15:06 | wizzyrea | for fulfillment? I haven't heard a whole lot about it no |
| 15:07 | NEKLS is supposedly going to be involved with it somehow (as we're the biggest of the regional koha consortia | |
| 15:07 | kansas* regional koha consortia | |
| 15:07 | rhcl_away | The evergreen channel is pretty busy |
| 15:08 | * oleonard | wonders how a library called "Evergreen Community Library" can not be on Evergreen. http://www.librarytechnology.o[…]brary.pl?RC=22861 |
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| 15:08 | oleonard | They should get a complimentary installation |
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| 15:13 | maximep | hey guys, when I do a search in the OPAC for something that has only 1 item and it's notforloan, with XSLT it says copies available |
| 15:13 | with XSLT off it says No items available | |
| 15:13 | is that a bug that the behavior is different? | |
| 15:16 | wizzyrea | well, it *is* available |
| 15:16 | you just can't check it out | |
| 15:18 | maximep | hmmm right, it says available for reference now |
| 15:18 | wizzyrea | it's probably a bug that it's different, but getting people to agree on what it should say |
| 15:18 | would be the hard part lol | |
| 15:18 | available for reference is probably what you want it to say | |
| 15:18 | makes sense to me anyway | |
| 15:19 | maximep | xslt caching is killing me :/ |
| 15:20 | jcamins | maximep: XSLT caching? |
| 15:20 | wahanui | somebody said XSLT caching was killing me :/ |
| 15:20 | oleonard | wahanui's memory is impeccable. |
| 15:20 | maximep | haha |
| 15:20 | jcamins | wahanui: forget XSLT caching |
| 15:20 | wahanui | jcamins: I forgot xslt caching |
| 15:21 | maximep | yeah, looking at the code the variable stylesheet of XSLTParse4Display is global |
| 15:21 | so it seems it's only parsing 1 time for pages | |
| 15:21 | rhcl | hey, this is cool: "Ducks Unlimited Canada Now Live On Koha" http://www.esilibrary.com/esi/[…]sitem.php?id=2176 - just now noticed it |
| 15:21 | wizzyrea | well also, there's a certain delay between when you change something and it gets reflected in the index |
| 15:21 | maximep | i seem to have bugs with that |
| 15:22 | rhcl | talking about a koha connector for fullfilment on the fullfilment channel right now |
| 15:22 | maximep | probably because were using mod_perl |
| 15:22 | jcamins | maximep: you're using mod_perl? I thought Koha still had too many leaks for mod_perl. |
| 15:22 | maximep | were using it for the opac only |
| 15:23 | intranet is completly unusable with it | |
| 15:23 | wizzyrea | good thing you're keeping all of your work on that to yourself. |
| 15:23 | maximep | we have no work on that :S |
| 15:23 | only sysadmin configs | |
| 15:26 | kf | I think several people have been experimenting with mod_perl |
| 15:26 | maximep | i guess we could share our config if anyone would like to test it |
| 15:26 | kf | rangi and I think sekjal |
| 15:26 | perhaps worth to discuss it on a meeting sometime | |
| 15:26 | wizzyrea | it wouldn't hurt to slap it up on the wiki |
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| 15:28 | wizzyrea | hm, this is a very trivial thing - but if you are adding a guaranteed child to an adult |
| 15:28 | and koha says "I think there is a dupe here" and you resubmit the child form | |
| 15:28 | it duplicates the guarantee record | |
| 15:28 | kf | oh |
| 15:29 | wizzyrea | but the child patron isn't duplicated |
| 15:29 | just the guarantee record | |
| 15:29 | kf | word-- |
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| 15:41 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7134] patron records getting funny birthdays <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7134> |
| 15:43 | sekjal | kf: yes, i've been playing with mod_perl |
| 15:43 | using ModPerl::PerlRun, I can get a pretty good performance boost without needing to alter any of Koha's code | |
| 15:43 | wizzyrea | i'll try to get at 7134 |
| 15:43 | sekjal | to get the faster, more persistent module, though, will require some work |
| 15:43 | thanks, wizzyrea! | |
| 15:46 | maximep | it's working fine for us on the opac, in production, but were not using xslt and only have 1 language enabled |
| 15:46 | wizzyrea | i'm also looking at 2830 |
| 15:50 | kf | sekjal: I only mentioned yourname in hope that you and maximep can start talking about it :) |
| 15:53 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: updating history.txt : 3.6.0 & 3.4.6 & KohaCon11 & Joy Nelson 160th <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]455d1ae7a6c783147> / Bug 7221: C4/Biblio.pm documentation is incorrect. <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]7df218a4d768ea104> |
| 15:56 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 524 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #491 29 j ago) |
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| 15:58 | maximep | correction, we seem to use ModPerl::PerlRunPrefork |
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| 16:03 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6321 Add a 1/4 months frequency <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]3e4e4c9d1c9f0dd6f> |
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| 16:04 | mib_pze7v0 | hi people :) |
| 16:05 | oleonard | Hi mib_pze7v0 , you have an unusual name |
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| 16:05 | vfernandes | hi ppl |
| 16:06 | what we should see consulting logs of periodicals? mine is showing nothing :/ | |
| 16:13 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7079: [SIGNED-OFF] Default values for German system preferences <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]25ae2238beb0a0912> / Make all strings translatable in marc21_field_007.tt <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]468f5e48e7b886e85> / Bug 6916 - item's acq date now takes you to its invoice <http://git.koha-community.org/g |
| 16:13 | vfernandes | no one? |
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| 16:16 | maximep | sorry, but what page is logs of periodicals? |
| 16:16 | vfernandes | browse system logs in the tools |
| 16:17 | then choose Serial | |
| 16:20 | maximep | is the preference SUbscriptionLog enabled ? |
| 16:21 | vfernandes | yes... |
| 16:21 | maximep | hmmmm |
| 16:22 | i'm not really good at the helping others it seems haha | |
| 16:22 | vfernandes | when adding a new subscription and receive serials it should log |
| 16:22 | trea | wizzyrea++. just sayin' |
| 16:23 | maximep | do have have access to the db to look at action_logs and see if there's stuff from the periodicals module ? |
| 16:26 | vfernandes | yes i have... let me see |
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| 16:33 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7084 - Re-arranging results_summary for tags so that it applies where it is suppo... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]94a8b782c855d52fb> |
| 16:33 | wizzyrea | YAY |
| 16:34 | \o\ /o/ \o\ /o/ | |
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| 16:38 | kf | wizzyrea++ :) |
| 16:39 | wizzyrea | thank you but that was really a trivial one. I have to do a dance every time I get a patch in ^.^ |
| 16:39 | kf++ for underappreciated hard work | |
| 16:40 | kf | hmmm |
| 16:40 | wizzyrea: oh thx | |
| 16:40 | I have been lazy lately | |
| 16:40 | wizzyrea | always good to have a short lazy time just after a major release, imo. |
| 16:41 | kf | and trying to finish my learning perl book finally |
| 16:41 | hmm. | |
| 16:41 | should I mark bug 7079 as bug? | |
| 16:41 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7079 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED , Default values for German system preferences (web installer) |
| 16:41 | kf | @eightball |
| 16:41 | huginn | kf: You're kidding, right? |
| 16:42 | kf | @eightball |
| 16:42 | huginn | kf: The outlook is poor. |
| 16:42 | kf | huginn: you are mean |
| 16:42 | huginn | kf: I've exhausted my database of quotes |
| 16:42 | wizzyrea | all right... back to my testing |
| 16:42 | kf | wizzyrea++ |
| 16:43 | wizzyrea: which version is nekls on right now? | |
| 16:43 | wizzyrea | 3.5.11, going to 3.6.0 this weekend |
| 16:43 | kf | oh wow |
| 16:43 | wizzyrea | wow is right ;) |
| 16:43 | kf | I have been configuring our test database for 3.6 today :) |
| 16:43 | hope to go there soon with our new libraries | |
| 16:43 | we have a smaller library that I want to start on 3.6 | |
| 16:44 | I found the birth date issue | |
| 16:44 | wizzyrea | 3.6.1 will probably be supergood. |
| 16:44 | *nod* ohhhh that's a good point | |
| 16:44 | kf | and the DUE notices show unknown for me - bug in german sql files |
| 16:44 | so far nothing else | |
| 16:44 | wizzyrea | I wonder if that would be enough to stop our 3.6 update |
| 16:44 | * wizzyrea | ponders |
| 16:44 | wizzyrea | it's only if the birthdate is null? |
| 16:44 | kf | hm it doesn't break thing |
| 16:44 | yep | |
| 16:44 | afaik | |
| 16:44 | if you don't fill it out | |
| 16:44 | it will put in something werid | |
| 16:44 | wizzyrea | we require it |
| 16:44 | you can't leave it blank | |
| 16:44 | kf | ian has uploaded a patch for it today |
| 16:44 | wizzyrea | *nod* |
| 16:45 | but we're not going that far >.> | |
| 16:45 | kf | wizzyrea: perhaps you can share your findings? or doing everything on bugzilla anyway? |
| 16:45 | wizzyrea | we haven't found anything in testing |
| 16:45 | all of the major stuff works just fine | |
| 16:45 | just the usual "oh this could be refined" | |
| 16:45 | sort of thing | |
| 16:45 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #524: STILL UNSTABLE in 49 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/524/ |
| 16:45 | * joy: Bug 7221: C4/Biblio.pm documentation is incorrect. | |
| 16:45 | * paul.poulain: updating history.txt : 3.6.0 & 3.4.6 & KohaCon11 & Joy Nelson 160th | |
| 16:45 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7221 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, joy, ASSIGNED , DelBiblio POD is incorrect |
| 16:45 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 525 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #491 29 j ago) |
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| 16:47 | kf | wizzyrea: for me that is mostly translation :) |
| 16:47 | but most of it easy to fix | |
| 16:47 | only tirening | |
| 16:48 | the - 'oh needs refining' things :) | |
| 16:48 | wizzyrea | right :) |
| 16:49 | kf++ for unending work on translations | |
| 16:50 | * kf | blushes |
| 16:50 | rhcl | is jcamins working on a translation for Old Church Slavonic? |
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| 16:51 | kf | might be |
| 16:54 | wizzyrea | hi NCARLibrary |
| 16:54 | kf | hi NCARLibrary and bye #koha :) |
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| 16:57 | NCARLibrary | hi! |
| 16:58 | I'm getting a nasty "Software error"... | |
| 16:58 | wizzyrea | shoot |
| 16:59 | NCARLibrary | I'm messing around with Patron Import tool. |
| 16:59 | wizzyrea | what's the error |
| 16:59 | NCARLibrary | imported a test file with 6 patrons. some were already in there and so did not load (good!). |
| 16:59 | some DID load, but when i search on those names in Patron search, I get this... | |
| 17:00 | "Can't use an undefined value as a HASH reference at /var/koha/sites/ucar/dev/members/member.pl line 130." | |
| 17:00 | wizzyrea | hm what did your import file look like? |
| 17:01 | NCARLibrary | (standby) |
| 17:01 | wizzyrea | uh, anonymized please |
| 17:01 | :) | |
| 17:03 | NCARLibrary | should i anonymize and share the file w/you? |
| 17:04 | wizzyrea | you can probably just paste the entire contents into a pastebin, once it's anonymized |
| 17:04 | NCARLibrary | ok |
| 17:07 | http://paste.koha-community.org/123 | |
| 17:09 | oleonard | I wonder why some things listed in debian.packages would not get installed the first time around |
| 17:12 | NCARLibrary | did that come through okay, wiz? |
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| 17:20 | cait | good evening #koha |
| 17:23 | rhcl | morning #cait |
| 17:23 | rangi | hi cait, hi all |
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| 17:24 | cait | hi rangi, hi rhcl :) |
| 17:24 | * wizzyrea | was not looking sorry ^.^ will look now |
| 17:24 | * cait | wonders if rhcl knows about her secred identity |
| 17:25 | * magnuse | waves from the train |
| 17:25 | cait | hi magnuse :) |
| 17:26 | all going as planned so far? | |
| 17:26 | magnuse | yup |
| 17:27 | the ordinary train was delayed, so i'm on the faster but more expensive airport train | |
| 17:28 | wizzyrea | I don't see anything particularly out of the ordinary - i'm not familiar with how the borrower attributes are defined so I'm not sure about the syntax there |
| 17:30 | NCARLibrary | okay, well, i'll send an email to galen and see what he thinks. |
| 17:31 | Thanks for looking. | |
| 17:32 | cait | magnuse: :) |
| 17:32 | when will you arrive? | |
| 17:32 | wizzyrea | you get that when you search any patron or only the ones that you imported? |
| 17:34 | NCARLibrary | only the ones that successfully imported. |
| 17:34 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #525: STILL UNSTABLE in 48 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/525/ |
| 17:34 | * f.demians: Bug 6321 Add a 1/4 months frequency | |
| 17:34 | * robin: Bug 6916 - item's acq date now takes you to its invoice | |
| 17:34 | * frederick.capovilla: Make all strings translatable in marc21_field_007.tt | |
| 17:34 | mtj | morena #Koha |
| 17:34 | jenkins_koha | * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7079: [SIGNED-OFF] Default values for German system preferences |
| 17:34 | * lrea: Bug 7084 - Re-arranging results_summary for tags so that it applies where it is supposed to | |
| 17:34 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6321 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, ASSIGNED , Add a 1/4 month frequency |
| 17:34 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6916 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, robin, ASSIGNED , Selecting the acq date of an item should take you to the invoice page for it | |
| 17:34 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7079 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED , Default values for German system preferences (web installer) | |
| 17:34 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7084 trivial, PATCH-Sent, ---, wizzyrea, ASSIGNED , New Tag on results display missing results_summary class, causing display inconsistency | |
| 17:34 | * mtj | waves from nz |
| 17:35 | rangi | heya mtj |
| 17:35 | welcome home | |
| 17:35 | also | |
| 17:35 | http://stephenslighthouse.com/[…]-librarian-alive/ | |
| 17:35 | cait | hi mtj :) |
| 17:35 | wizzyrea | ^ that link is wtf. |
| 17:35 | rangi | from the man who brought you the whitepaper on OSS ILS |
| 17:35 | we have another gem | |
| 17:35 | * wizzyrea | sighs heavily |
| 17:39 | mtj | ah cheers chris, thats classic |
| 17:39 | ... and a classic response, and follow-up too | |
| 17:39 | rangi | yep |
| 17:39 | typical | |
| 17:39 | cait | hm? |
| 17:39 | rangi | exactly what he did with the OSS FUD |
| 17:39 | (the comments) | |
| 17:39 | cait | oh comments |
| 17:39 | wahanui | comments are turned on |
| 17:40 | rangi | maybe finally ppl will stop listening to him |
| 17:40 | but i doubt it | |
| 17:40 | cait | wahanui botsnack chocolate tea |
| 17:40 | wahanui | :) |
| 17:40 | wizzyrea | chocolate tea? |
| 17:40 | cait | yep |
| 17:40 | chocolate yogi tea | |
| 17:40 | yumyumyum | |
| 17:40 | * wizzyrea | wants to know the secret of the "chocolate tea |
| 17:40 | cait | not much of a secret :) |
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| 17:41 | * Oak | says hi |
| 17:42 | cait | wizzyrea: google it :) lots of hits. I by mine in a fair trade shop here |
| 17:42 | buy | |
| 17:42 | wizzyrea | "only an idiot would support that" way to belittle people. |
| 17:42 | rangi | yes |
| 17:42 | wizzyrea | good job, A+ |
| 17:42 | <eyeroll> | |
| 17:42 | cait | the comments don't open for me |
| 17:42 | obo | |
| 17:42 | rangi | he never lets a comment stand either, leaves it in moderation |
| 17:42 | cait | boo |
| 17:42 | rangi | then posts it and his response at the same time |
| 17:43 | it is his blog, but still .. dick move | |
| 17:45 | in better news, cool idea about the indian domains eh, came outta kohacon | |
| 17:45 | cait | :) |
| 17:45 | wizzyrea | ya, that's wicked. |
| 17:45 | cait | did they get other countries too? |
| 17:46 | jcamins | Huh? |
| 17:46 | mtj | a nice summary about the FUD incident here -> http://www.libraryjournal.com/[…]le/CA6704622.html |
| 17:46 | rangi | see the mail to the mailing lists jcamins |
| 17:47 | * jcamins | has been frantically preparing a brochure for this evening. |
| 17:47 | jcamins | Apparently there's been a lot of mail in the last forty-five minutes. |
| 17:48 | oleonard | Hah, I forgot that Josh was quoted as a defender of Open Source in that article. How times changed. |
| 17:48 | jcamins | Hm. Don't see what we're talking about. |
| 17:48 | Eh. It'll arrive eventually. | |
| 17:49 | * magnuse | neither |
| 17:49 | cait | jcamins: was this morning |
| 17:49 | * jcamins | returns to frantically preparing a brochure for his talk tonight. |
| 17:49 | cait | not lately |
| 17:50 | rangi | yeah it was bout 15 hours ago at least |
| 17:50 | mtj | ah, and speaking of domaiNZzz.... |
| 17:50 | https://onlydomains.secure-adm[…]-community_org_nz | |
| 17:51 | rangi | sweet |
| 17:51 | mtj | (...to be transfered to HLT quite soon-ish) |
| 17:54 | cait | hm I am thinking about the .de |
| 17:54 | rhcl | you know, I used to think Stephen had some good thoughts. Haven't been following him for a long time though. Nice to see he has a post on something different for a change. |
| 17:55 | magnuse | luckily, you have to be a norwegian company to have .no... |
| 17:55 | cait | ah |
| 17:59 | maximep | when using xslt it says "Copies available for reference" even if my item is notforloan. How do I set that it's also not available for reference? |
| 18:00 | jcamins | maximep: check it out? |
| 18:03 | cait | reference means just that |
| 18:03 | the system is right | |
| 18:03 | ah | |
| 18:03 | hm | |
| 18:03 | maximep | well without xslt it just says there's no copies |
| 18:04 | so i guess it's something new | |
| 18:04 | cait | no, not new |
| 18:05 | it's been like that in the xslt as long as I can think | |
| 18:05 | but | |
| 18:05 | if something is not available for reference - why have it in the catalog? | |
| 18:05 | you could hide the item totally | |
| 18:05 | maximep | well it's not available yet |
| 18:05 | just received it | |
| 18:06 | cait | so it's an on order item? |
| 18:06 | does the library hide damaged or lost books? | |
| 18:06 | magnuse | later! |
| 18:06 | cait | bya magnuse :) |
| 18:19 | bbiab | |
| 18:27 | back | |
| 18:31 | * rangi | is on the bus |
| 18:31 | * cait | waves |
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| 18:32 | libsysguy | hey #Koha :) |
| 18:32 | seen sekjal | |
| 18:32 | wahanui | sekjal was last seen on #koha 2 hours, 48 minutes and 34 seconds ago, saying: thanks, wizzyrea! [Thu Nov 17 15:43:50 2011] |
| 18:32 | libsysguy | sekjal any word on hourly testing? |
| 18:32 | cait | hi libsysguy :) |
| 18:32 | libsysguy | hi cait :) |
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| 18:33 | * libsysguy | waives at druthb |
| 18:33 | cait | hi druthb :) |
| 18:33 | druthb | hi, #koha! Say hello to the staff at Bethel University again...got the whole team today. :) |
| 18:33 | cait | libsysguy: should we organize another meeting about notices? |
| 18:33 | libsysguy | I would like to cait...but I really want to get hourly pushed before we start any work on it |
| 18:33 | cait | Hallo Bethel University :) |
| 18:33 | libsysguy | Hi Bethel U |
| 18:34 | cait | libsysguy: that's ok, just let me know :) |
| 18:34 | rangi | ata marie bethel u |
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| 18:34 | libsysguy | Bethel in MN? |
| 18:34 | druthb | TN |
| 18:34 | http://www.bethelu.edu | |
| 18:35 | * druthb | waves down the table at edveal. |
| 18:35 | * libsysguy | goes to poke around |
| 18:36 | druthb | one of the great blessings of doing Koha training is seeing happy faces when they see how much better Koha is than their current stinky system. |
| 18:36 | cait | heh |
| 18:36 | * libsysguy | thinks he should be doing Koha training then :p |
| 18:37 | cait | I have been configuring my new 3.6 test installation |
| 18:37 | and was smiling all the time | |
| 18:37 | druthb | (one of the other great blessings is sitting and chomping on tasty pizza with them at lunch break....) |
| 18:37 | cait | so many new and shiny things I almost forgot about |
| 18:37 | libsysguy | druthb knows about my "special" situation :-\ |
| 18:38 | cait have you had any new ideas about notices | |
| 18:38 | cait | not new ideas, but I want to go in there and check the existing bugs |
| 18:38 | I found some new things too | |
| 18:38 | and there are some things wiating for sign-of | |
| 18:39 | libsysguy | go in where cait? |
| 18:40 | cait | into the darkest places of bugzilla :) |
| 18:40 | * libsysguy | is a little slow today |
| 18:40 | runs and hides | |
| 18:40 | cait | heh |
| 18:41 | libsysguy | druthb i used to live about 2 hours from where you are now |
| 18:42 | cait | libsysguy: it's not that bad |
| 18:43 | libsysguy: and my laptop is set up now to send mails :) | |
| 18:43 | libsysguy | yayy...are you using my custom notifications script to send emails :p |
| 18:43 | cait | um no? |
| 18:44 | not yet? | |
| 18:44 | what's the right answer? | |
| 18:44 | libsysguy | haha well there is no right answer |
| 18:44 | i just wrote a quick little hack to get around the limit on sending | |
| 18:44 | cron ftw | |
| 18:48 | rangi | my stop bbiab |
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| 18:57 | rangi | back |
| 19:03 | sekjal | hey, libsysguy |
| 19:03 | wahanui | i heard libsysguy was Koha's hottest developer or partying with swedes on his deck |
| 19:03 | sekjal | sorry, no progress on hourly testing these last couple weeks |
| 19:03 | India | |
| 19:03 | then NYC | |
| 19:04 | such the jet-setting life I've got here... | |
| 19:04 | (actually, took a bus to NYC...) | |
| 19:04 | cait | heh |
| 19:07 | libsysguy | haha sekjal |
| 19:08 | do you agree that it would be a good idea to wait on notifications until hourly gets pushed | |
| 19:09 | cait | libsysguy: I think finishing one big project before the ohter is ok |
| 19:09 | but you meant ian... sorry, bit distracted | |
| 19:09 | libsysguy | well I was just thinking that hourly changes a lot with Dates |
| 19:10 | wizzyrea | libsysguy: you have merged hourly recently? |
| 19:10 | libsysguy | mostly changing a lot of the namespace from C4::Dates to Koha::Calendar |
| 19:10 | not since my last mention of merge | |
| 19:10 | whenever that was | |
| 19:10 | * wizzyrea | thought to run through the NEKLS testing protocols on it to make sure the normal stuff works |
| 19:10 | libsysguy | I know there have been some tt changes |
| 19:10 | yeah i can merge and push if you want to check it out | |
| 19:10 | wizzyrea | dk if that would help you or not |
| 19:11 | libsysguy | i think it would help sekjal and I both |
| 19:11 | the more testing the better IMO | |
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| 19:12 | libsysguy | wizzyrea: merged and pushed |
| 19:12 | wizzyrea | oh snaps |
| 19:12 | okies | |
| 19:13 | you are fast :) | |
| 19:13 | libsysguy | hehe i like to give service like i want it |
| 19:13 | fast and efficient | |
| 19:16 | * wizzyrea | refrains from saying anything terribly naughty about swedes and your deck. |
| 19:16 | wizzyrea | i will leave it to your imagination. |
| 19:16 | libsysguy | haha ja ja ja |
| 19:16 | i guess we have to keep the IRC PG | |
| 19:16 | cait | lol |
| 19:17 | wizzyrea | (that's what she said) |
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| 19:19 | libsysguy | hehe |
| 19:32 | wizzyrea | thanks to whoever proposed only sending original patches to the list. |
| 19:32 | I love you. | |
| 19:35 | * wizzyrea | pokes anybody looking for an easy signoff - bug 6323 |
| 19:35 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6323 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, wizzyrea, ASSIGNED , Attach/move items -- error handling cleanup |
| 19:35 | wizzyrea | please :) |
| 19:35 | rangi | i have a few mins |
| 19:35 | looking now | |
| 19:35 | wizzyrea | it's eezzz |
| 19:37 | aaand I neglected a test plan. | |
| 19:37 | rangi | what! |
| 19:37 | * wizzyrea | gives herself a stern face |
| 19:37 | * rangi | fails it |
| 19:37 | * wizzyrea | sobs |
| 19:37 | rangi | (not really) |
| 19:38 | so the idea | |
| 19:38 | i try to attach an item | |
| 19:38 | if it fails | |
| 19:38 | i get a button to try again? | |
| 19:39 | you know what you could have done | |
| 19:39 | see how that block is repeated 3 times | |
| 19:39 | ? | |
| 19:39 | wizzyrea | what's that |
| 19:39 | wahanui | that is good |
| 19:39 | wizzyrea | yes |
| 19:39 | (I wondered about that, actually) | |
| 19:39 | rangi | [% block new_button %] |
| 19:39 | stick that stuff in | |
| 19:39 | wizzyrea | oh snizzle |
| 19:40 | rangi | [% end %] |
| 19:40 | then | |
| 19:40 | at the end of the file probably | |
| 19:40 | so in the 3 places you do | |
| 19:40 | [% include new_button %] | |
| 19:41 | wizzyrea | oooo |
| 19:41 | gimme a sec | |
| 19:41 | rangi | :) |
| 19:41 | i probably typoed | |
| 19:41 | but thats the gist of it | |
| 19:41 | * wizzyrea | is a teachable monkey |
| 19:41 | rangi | yay! |
| 19:41 | wizzyrea | I don't even fling poo anymore! |
| 19:42 | * libsysguy | still flings poo |
| 19:42 | rangi | http://template-toolkit.org/do[…]tml#section_BLOCK |
| 19:42 | reading this | |
| 19:42 | http://template-toolkit.org/do[…]tml#section_BLOCK | |
| 19:42 | sorry | |
| 19:42 | http://template-toolkit.org/do[…]l#section_INCLUDE | |
| 19:42 | and | |
| 19:42 | http://template-toolkit.org/do[…]l#section_PROCESS | |
| 19:42 | is probably good too | |
| 19:42 | to figure out if you want process or include | |
| 19:43 | wizzyrea | *nod* will check |
| 19:43 | rangi | but block is hella cool |
| 19:43 | cait | rangi++ |
| 19:43 | rangi | and if its used outside the file |
| 19:43 | you can make a new .tt file in the includes and [% INCLUDE %] it | |
| 19:43 | wizzyrea | ooo snap |
| 19:43 | rangi | same idea |
| 19:44 | then down the track | |
| 19:44 | we switch those to | |
| 19:44 | [% CACHE.INC %] | |
| 19:44 | which pulls them from the cache if possible and only processes if not | |
| 19:44 | SPEED! | |
| 19:44 | cait | heh |
| 19:45 | oleonard | Does the extension of a file in includes not matter? |
| 19:45 | rangi | nope |
| 19:45 | you give it hte full path | |
| 19:45 | sorry full filename | |
| 19:46 | [% INCLUDE 'doc-head-close.inc' %] | |
| 19:46 | that could be | |
| 19:46 | [% INCLUDE 'doc-head-close.what_this_is_just_stupid' %] | |
| 19:46 | if you wanted | |
| 19:48 | oleonard | I noticed that recently someone added circ-menu.tt alongside circ-menu.inc, which disturbed my sense of order |
| 19:48 | rangi | well picking a consistent one is a sane thing to do |
| 19:48 | but not a requirement of TT | |
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| 19:53 | * oleonard | wonders if INSTALL.debian and INSTALL.ubuntu really must be different |
| 19:53 | rangi | sometimes yes |
| 19:54 | cait | oleonard: sense_of_order++ :) |
| 19:54 | oleonard | INSTALL.ubuntu has the user rebuilding zebra before running the web installer |
| 19:54 | rangi | yeah, thats a pretty silly idea |
| 19:57 | wizzyrea | rangi++ that works and is so much easier >.< |
| 19:57 | lawdie. | |
| 19:57 | ^.^ that's a happy scrunchie face | |
| 19:58 | rangi | :-) |
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| 20:00 | oleonard | What is the purpose of the separate INSTALL.ubuntu.lucid file? |
| 20:00 | rangi | its supposed to be for lucid the other one should be oneric |
| 20:00 | lucid is the LTS release | |
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| 20:01 | wizzyrea | oleonard does thsi upset your sense of order: http://screencast.com/t/j1hWk5JGSW |
| 20:01 | *this | |
| 20:01 | oleonard | maybe some, but my sense of "Gawd do you know what we'd have to go through to make them the same?" overrides it |
| 20:02 | wizzyrea | totally fair, is why I asked. |
| 20:02 | cait | we could relable |
| 20:02 | wizzyrea | :) |
| 20:02 | cait | "try again" :P |
| 20:02 | wizzyrea | lol |
| 20:02 | owen likes it with "try again with a different barcode" | |
| 20:02 | I t hink I did that to make the buttons the same size | |
| 20:02 | and he was like "meh no" | |
| 20:02 | :) | |
| 20:02 | (which I'm ok with) | |
| 20:02 | (it's clearer this way | |
| 20:03 | rangi++ that is helpful knowledge. | |
| 20:03 | oleonard | Or maybe "OK\nFine, whatever." |
| 20:03 | wizzyrea | LOL |
| 20:04 | * oleonard | worries that updates to INSTALL.debian and INSTALL.ubuntu are not made concurrently when they should be |
| 20:05 | wizzyrea | both of them need to advise to use packages |
| 20:05 | before doing a manual install. | |
| 20:05 | the download page on the website needs to be updated to do the same | |
| 20:10 | * wizzyrea | issues another poke for a signoff on 6323 |
| 20:10 | wizzyrea | :P |
| 20:10 | rangi | :) |
| 20:10 | looking now | |
| 20:11 | chris_n | maybe we need a "poke" button in bugzilla :) |
| 20:12 | wizzyrea | that sends a message to IRC! |
| 20:12 | that would be amazing.. | |
| 20:12 | rangi | needs signoff does it already |
| 20:12 | oleonard | ...and activates a buzzer under someone's chair |
| 20:12 | wizzyrea | right, but I want it on demand lol |
| 20:12 | POKE | |
| 20:12 | * chris_n | made the mistake of installing the 'koha' package rather than the 'koha-common' package :( |
| 20:12 | wizzyrea | oops. |
| 20:13 | ok ok fine. | |
| 20:13 | * chris_n | associates peek and poke with TRS-80 |
| 20:13 | chris_n | opps... giving away my age |
| 20:13 | * wizzyrea | had a TRS-80 |
| 20:15 | chris_n | stupid zebra |
| 20:16 | * maximep | doesn't even know what is a TRS-80 |
| 20:16 | maximep | 1977. oh. |
| 20:16 | chris_n | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRS-80 |
| 20:17 | maximep | my first computer was an amd athlon 1.2 ghz |
| 20:17 | :p | |
| 20:17 | not to make u feel old hehe | |
| 20:18 | * chris_n | actually owned a PC-2 once as well |
| 20:18 | rhcl | Amiga! |
| 20:18 | cait | 386? |
| 20:18 | rangi | zx-81 was my first computer |
| 20:18 | chris_n | maximep: my first was a home-built based around a TI-990 processor running what was called "TI-BUG Monitor" |
| 20:18 | Oak | my first was an AMD k6-2, 500 MHz |
| 20:19 | chris_n | all machine code programing :P |
| 20:19 | rhcl | actually my 1st was a TI99/4A http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T[…]truments_TI-99/4A |
| 20:19 | wizzyrea | ok ok |
| 20:19 | check this out | |
| 20:19 | rangi | wizzyrea: patch looks fine to me |
| 20:19 | signing off | |
| 20:19 | wahanui | signing off is a great idea! |
| 20:19 | wizzyrea | woot! |
| 20:19 | larryb left #koha | |
| 20:19 | wizzyrea | can you see this? https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamai[…]048_6841769_n.jpg |
| 20:19 | chris_n | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TI-990 |
| 20:20 | wizzyrea | that's mah daddy, and the first computer I poked at |
| 20:20 | Oak | see it yes. read it, no. |
| 20:20 | maximep | wow cool |
| 20:20 | Oak | oh nice |
| 20:20 | maximep | 1978? |
| 20:20 | wizzyrea | ya |
| 20:20 | rhcl | I'm waiting for somebody else to ask wizzyrea "for real?" |
| 20:20 | wizzyrea | that's my mom's handwriting at the top |
| 20:20 | ibeardslee | so long ago |
| 20:21 | chris_n | neat |
| 20:21 | * Oak | reopens the tab |
| 20:21 | wizzyrea | https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamai[…]048_6841769_n.jpg |
| 20:21 | is that better? | |
| 20:22 | chris_n | much |
| 20:22 | Oak | oh yes! much better |
| 20:22 | rhcl | tarkio Missouri????? wow |
| 20:22 | wizzyrea | *nod* |
| 20:22 | Oak | it's great actually. |
| 20:22 | rhcl | My mother attended there. |
| 20:24 | oleonard | What paper was that wizzyrea? |
| 20:24 | rhcl | looks like St. Joseph news - press |
| 20:24 | wizzyrea | St Jo news-press |
| 20:24 | whoa! rhcl! | |
| 20:24 | rhcl | (I live in St. Joe) |
| 20:25 | wizzyrea | my grandpa was from St. jo |
| 20:26 | (do note I wasn't born yet when that article came out) | |
| 20:26 | but only just | |
| 20:27 | francharb | bye all! |
| 20:27 | rhcl | bye |
| 20:28 | kathryn joined #koha | |
| 20:28 | * francharb | is listening to royal headache! |
| 20:28 | francharb | australia rocks! |
| 20:28 | ;) | |
| 20:30 | rangi | you cant say that and leave! |
| 20:30 | wizzyrea | dirty pool lol |
| 20:35 | Oak | Koha rocks! |
| 20:35 | rangi | phew fixed it |
| 20:35 | wizzyrea | ! |
| 20:36 | talljoy | wizzyrea your dad must have been friends with mine. lol mine is a phd in chemical engineering when to grad school in missouri and we built computers for fun in the 80s. |
| 20:37 | wizzyrea | ! |
| 20:37 | mine had a phd in chemistry too >.> | |
| 20:37 | talljoy | of course...i'm a tad older than you. was born and nearly double digits at time of that article. |
| 20:38 | * rangi | was 5 |
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| 20:41 | cait | hm |
| 20:41 | when was the article written? | |
| 20:42 | wizzyrea | jan 1978 |
| 20:42 | cait | um |
| 20:42 | rangi | you wasnt borned |
| 20:43 | cait | hehe nope |
| 20:43 | * wizzyrea | wasn't either ;) |
| 20:43 | bg | one year before my time |
| 20:43 | :D | |
| 20:44 | paul_p and I share the same birthday Jan 9... | |
| 20:44 | ibeardslee | ahh the youth of today |
| 20:44 | trea | i was nearly done cookin by jan '78 :D |
| 20:49 | * chris_n | tries wizzyrea's trick |
| 20:49 | chrisdothall | I wont mention how many years that was before me... |
| 20:49 | chris_n | and pokes an old thread |
| 20:49 | rangi | yeah chrisdothall is our child labour |
| 20:49 | * rangi | cracks the whip in his direction |
| 20:49 | wizzyrea | whippersnapper! |
| 20:50 | * chris_n | was the same as talljoy |
| 20:51 | talljoy | chris_n guess that makes us the old fogies |
| 20:51 | chris_n | lol |
| 20:51 | * talljoy | looks for her cane |
| 20:51 | rangi | get off my lawn |
| 20:51 | trea | get off my lawn! pesky kids. :P |
| 20:52 | lol! | |
| 20:52 | rangi | hah |
| 20:52 | chris_n | hehe |
| 20:52 | * chris_n | knew he was getting old when he began rolling up the sidewalks at 9pm |
| 20:53 | wizzyrea | o/ HIGHFIVE \o |
| 20:54 | trea | o/ HIGHFIVE \o |
| 20:54 | ibeardslee | http://www.hi-5us.com/ ? |
| 20:55 | chrisdothall | o/*\o |
| 20:55 | wizzyrea | LOL <3 |
| 20:56 | chrisdothall: that is funny I like that | |
| 20:56 | ibeardslee: you must have little people near you | |
| 20:56 | where little = young | |
| 20:57 | ibeardslee | no .. but I think there are people in here young enough to know them ;) |
| 20:58 | chrisdothall | It was after my time, but my younger siblings were fans. |
| 20:58 | ibeardslee | sure |
| 20:58 | chrisdothall | and the people have changed... |
| 20:58 | oleonard | chris_n: I've been doing some datatables testing, and I must say I'm put off by the obscurity of the config options |
| 21:00 | moodaepo | So #koha who are all attending code4lib in Seattle? I heard sekjal will be...looking for more folks so we can have a merry old koha/evergreen summit : ) |
| 21:01 | chris_n | oleonard: they are a bit overwhelming at first glance, I agree |
| 21:01 | * chris_n | made liberal use of the many examples on the site |
| 21:01 | chris_n | and searched often on the forums |
| 21:02 | * oleonard | boggles that column config can be set using positive indexes counting from the left or negative indexes counting from the right |
| 21:02 | rangi | moodaepo: unfortunately ive done my dash of north american travel for the near future |
| 21:03 | * chris_n | is not widely enough versed in js foo to produce a good critique :( |
| 21:03 | oleonard | Just seems needlessly complex |
| 21:04 | moodaepo | rangi: Well one day we will have to have a OSS ILS summit in Wellington! |
| 21:05 | rangi | we had kohacon here last year :) |
| 21:05 | cait | last year *sigh* |
| 21:06 | chrisdothall | cait: are you looking for an excuse to visit? |
| 21:07 | * moodaepo | was just talking about nz & in trips being missed because we aren't involved in koha! |
| 21:07 | moodaepo | What next .se? |
| 21:07 | cait | chrisdothall: always :) |
| 21:07 | rangi | moodaepo: declan and mjgialo suggested i run a curatecamp here .. so watch this space |
| 21:08 | cait | chrisdothall: but can't believe it's already 'a year ago' |
| 21:08 | moodaepo | space_watching++ |
| 21:08 | sekjal | NateC? |
| 21:08 | wahanui | I LIKE SPACE AND MY WIFE |
| 21:09 | chrisdothall | cait: heh, soon it will be 'two years ago' |
| 21:09 | cait | chrisdothall: now you are being mean! :) |
| 21:09 | chrisdothall | xD |
| 21:10 | rangi | curatecamp.org/ |
| 21:11 | when it comes back that is :) | |
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| 21:25 | wizzyrea | ok, sql question of the day |
| 21:25 | rangi | ok |
| 21:25 | wizzyrea | probably a dumb one |
| 21:26 | rangi | only dumb ones are the ones you ask 7 times on the mailing |
| 21:26 | wizzyrea | lol |
| 21:27 | title, author, dateaccessioned, ccode and number of items on each bib for the returned set (I think we can get the limits worked out ourselves, it's the count of items on each bib that's currently stumping me) | |
| 21:27 | rangi | right |
| 21:27 | wizzyrea | i'll add the recipe to the library in penance |
| 21:28 | rangi | select title,author,dateaccessioned,ccode,count(itemnumber) from biblio,items where biblio.biblionumber=items.biblionumber |
| 21:28 | wizzyrea | derp gah |
| 21:29 | rangi | group by title |
| 21:29 | limit whatever | |
| 21:30 | or group by biblionumber is probably safer (include it in the list of colums to select) | |
| 21:30 | make sense? | |
| 21:31 | wizzyrea | yes, makes perfect sense |
| 21:31 | rangi | cool |
| 21:31 | wizzyrea | thank you :) |
| 21:31 | rangi | no worries |
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| 21:32 | libsysguy | can anybody tell me what the QueryAutoTruncate syspref does? |
| 21:32 | rangi | libsysguy: http://soundcloud.com/dubstep/disposable-war-pigs |
| 21:32 | this will fix everything | |
| 21:33 | libsysguy | haha all things fixed |
| 21:33 | rangi | hi paulnz |
| 21:33 | paulnz | hi rangi |
| 21:33 | libsysguy | well i guess by what it does i should have said do I need to reindex after I change it |
| 21:33 | paulnz | can you check overdrive - they said its down |
| 21:33 | cait | libsysguy: act like when you put a little star behind each search term |
| 21:33 | paulnz | Could not connect to remote host. Error Message : No connection could be made because the target machine actively refused it 222.154.228.3:5550 Socket Error Code : 10061 Causes : Check and make sure the connection port is correct, and that that our global outside facing IP (207.54.136.106) has TCP access to it. |
| 21:34 | cait | I think |
| 21:34 | rangi | paulnz: ill go check now |
| 21:34 | paulnz | not sure if you are getting those it emails still? |
| 21:34 | libsysguy | hmm well margo turned it off and said it doesn't seem to be working :-\ |
| 21:34 | cait | libsysguy: no, I don't think you have to, but someone else might know better :) |
| 21:34 | rangi | did get that one |
| 21:34 | cait | libsysguy: do you still use fuzzy? |
| 21:35 | libsysguy | fuzzy? |
| 21:35 | yes we do | |
| 21:35 | maybe that does it | |
| 21:37 | rangi | paulnz: ahh yes the server has been rebooted |
| 21:37 | 2 secs | |
| 21:37 | cait | libsysguy: stemming might be another candidate |
| 21:38 | paulnz | rangi - by you or by us? |
| 21:38 | rangi | not by me |
| 21:38 | and robin is at a conference so i suspect at your end | |
| 21:39 | paulnz: should be up now | |
| 21:39 | if you could get them to test | |
| 21:41 | paulnz | hmmmmmmmmm - so much for 'nothing changed' reply from IT |
| 21:42 | rangi | heh |
| 21:42 | paulnz | when was the reboot? |
| 21:42 | rangi | lemme check |
| 21:42 | 10:36:01 up 1 day, 7:24 | |
| 21:42 | 31 ish hours ago | |
| 21:44 | paulnz | overdrive just tested now and got same error |
| 21:45 | rangi | hmm well the sip server is definitely running |
| 21:47 | libsysguy | cait I think what margo was looking for was a way to do exact call number searching |
| 21:47 | cait | hm |
| 21:47 | libsysguy | like "m27 .b4" |
| 21:47 | cait | not sure about that |
| 21:47 | wizzyrea | heh |
| 21:47 | good old m27 .b4 | |
| 21:47 | cait | the . will be ignored for example |
| 21:47 | libsysguy | because it splits on the space |
| 21:47 | yeah i hate call numbers | |
| 21:48 | why can't we just use unique keys | |
| 21:48 | cait | hm |
| 21:48 | would a phrase callnumber index work on that? | |
| 21:48 | libsysguy | what is a phrase callnumber index? |
| 21:49 | cait | I was thinking |
| 21:49 | something like the phrase search we use for other fields | |
| 21:49 | in advanced search - more options | |
| 21:49 | where the sequence of works matters | |
| 21:49 | words | |
| 21:49 | *sighs* | |
| 21:49 | getting late here :) | |
| 21:50 | rangi | paulnz: pasted you some logs in a private message |
| 21:50 | libsysguy | haha aww |
| 21:50 | * libsysguy | hands cait cookies |
| 21:51 | cait | libsysguy: thx :) |
| 21:51 | libsysguy | hmm that would be something that would have to be implemented |
| 21:51 | but would probaby work | |
| 21:51 | cait | hmm perhaps not |
| 21:51 | not sure about all that hehe | |
| 21:51 | libsysguy | well im not entirely sure how the code works |
| 21:51 | cait | but you can do things like Control-number: in simple search forms |
| 21:51 | perhaps you can do something like that | |
| 21:52 | ok, now I will stop guessing and confusing and go to bed | |
| 21:52 | night all | |
| 21:52 | libsysguy | haha night cait |
| 21:52 | thanks | |
| 21:52 | cait++ | |
| 21:52 | sekjal | found a fun new bug in action logs |
| 21:52 | * cait | runs out |
| 21:52 | cait left #koha | |
| 21:52 | sekjal | apparently, all this time, the biblionumber has been what's logged for circulation logs |
| 21:53 | but in the log view, the code is assuming it's itemnumber, and trying to look up the biblionumber and biblioitemnumber accordingly | |
| 22:03 | * wizzyrea | promotes a bug: http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7112 |
| 22:03 | huginn | 04Bug 7112: normal, P5 - low, ---, henridamien, NEW , Having two prices in 020$c causes basket creation to fail from staged marc import |
| 22:47 | libsysguy left #koha | |
| 23:05 | rangi | http://jenkins.koha-community.org/monitor/? |
| 23:05 | lets get this green again eh? | |
| 23:09 | * chris_n | wonders if all patch authors are running the appropriate tests on their work prior to submitting |
| 23:11 | * rangi | sent up a patch to fix the templates failing one |
| 23:17 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7242] Typo in opac-shelves.tt <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7242> |
| 23:18 | rangi | worlds easiest sign off |
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