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| 00:01 | Junie joined #koha | |
| 00:02 | Junie | Good day everyone |
| 00:03 | I am trying to find a list of recomended hardware: scanner, Printers etc that should be used with Koha. am I in the correct Chat? | |
| 00:04 | eythian | you are, though it's not terribly busy on a Saturday. |
| 00:05 | Junie | Thank you |
| 00:05 | do you know where I can find a list of recomended hardware that works with Koha? | |
| 00:06 | like barcode scanner and printers | |
| 00:06 | eythian | I'm not really sure, but have a look at http://wiki.koha-community.org - there might be stuff there. Basically, for scanners, anything that acts like a keyboard ("keyboard wedge" they're sometimes called.) This is (afaik) most of them. |
| 00:07 | for printers, I'm not really sure, but it uses firefox to do the printing, so anything that works with that. You might want to ask on the koha mailing list for recommendations if the wiki doesn't help. | |
| 00:07 | (I don't usually deal with that aspect of hardware, so don't have a lot to contribue :) | |
| 00:08 | Junie | Thank you for your kind help |
| 00:08 | eythian | no problem |
| 00:08 | Junie | I did look at the wiki and did not find anything. I will look again and will try the forum |
| 00:09 | Thanks again and have a great day | |
| 00:09 | eythian | good luck |
| 00:24 | jcamins_away | eythian: I have a really weird error. |
| 00:24 | eythian | OK... |
| 00:24 | jcamins_away | (pasting it) |
| 00:25 | http://paste.koha-community.org/113 | |
| 00:25 | I'm getting that error from koha-rebuild-zebra. | |
| 00:25 | I'm about to inspect that line in rebuild_zebra. | |
| 00:26 | eythian | tjat |
| 00:26 | that's a new one | |
| 00:26 | jcamins_away | And I can confirm, there are approximately an absurd number of directories in /tmp |
| 00:26 | eythian | ah |
| 00:26 | hmm | |
| 00:26 | that's probably it | |
| 00:27 | jcamins_away | They're all from rebuild_zebra. |
| 00:27 | Which is running only from koha-rebuild-zebra. | |
| 00:27 | I guess you've never seen this before? | |
| 00:27 | eythian | there is/was a bug that I kept fixing and it kept coming back that caused rebuild_zebra to refuse to delete stuff from /tmp if ~root is not writable. |
| 00:27 | rather | |
| 00:27 | not readable by non-root | |
| 00:27 | I thought I'd finally nailed it though, but maybe not... | |
| 00:28 | jcamins_away | This isn't latest master. |
| 00:28 | It took this error several weeks to show up. | |
| 00:28 | eythian | I thought I fixed it in 3.2 days |
| 00:28 | jcamins_away | Oh. |
| 00:28 | Well, it seems to be back? | |
| 00:28 | eythian | but, it was prone to returning |
| 00:29 | that said, my servers aren't getting it now | |
| 00:29 | melia left #koha | |
| 00:29 | eythian | so maybe it's similar-but-different |
| 00:30 | I'd clean out /tmp, then at least it'll be easier to diagnose :) | |
| 00:32 | jcamins_away | So... how long does it take for 32k entries to be created? |
| 00:33 | eythian | at a rate of 4 per hour, ~8,000 hours. |
| 00:34 | more if you have more than one site on that host, so rebuild zebra happens more often. | |
| 00:34 | jcamins_away | I'm rebuilding at a rate of 12 times/hour for... four instances.. |
| 00:35 | eythian | OK, so then quite a bit shorter :) |
| 00:35 | jcamins_away | And, sure enough, it took about a month for me to notice the problem. |
| 00:36 | eythian | we usually saw it as the /tmp space running out |
| 00:37 | The problem then was that the File::Temp code would chdir to ~ before deleting, however ~ was root, but the process wasn't running as root, so it failed. | |
| 00:37 | *however ~ was /root | |
| 00:37 | jcamins_away | Hmmm... how does one fix that? |
| 00:37 | eythian | that may or may not be what you're seeing though, I'm quite sure I fixed that particular case. |
| 00:39 | To start with, I'd write a test script that creates a temp dir, and see if that fails to remove the dir. From there, you can trace it easier. | |
| 00:39 | oh, I just remembered how I fixed it: | |
| 00:39 | sudo -u "$name-koha" -H \ | |
| 00:39 | env PERL5LIB=/usr/share/koha/lib \ | |
| 00:39 | KOHA_CONF="/etc/koha/sites/$name/koha-conf.xml" \ | |
| 00:39 | /usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl $@ | |
| 00:39 | the -H updates $HOME | |
| 00:40 | so that it's no longer root, but the home dir of $name-koha | |
| 00:40 | jcamins_away | Well, that's there. |
| 00:40 | eythian | if you test this, make sure you start as root and use sudo in a similar fashion to however you're doing it. It's likely a subtle environment thing. |
| 00:41 | maybe $HOME of $name-koha isn't readable by the $name-koha user on your system | |
| 00:41 | jcamins_away | Bingo! |
| 00:41 | Bug in koha-restore. | |
| 00:42 | eythian | ah, it doesn't set the $HOME like koha-create does? |
| 00:42 | jcamins_away | Right. |
| 00:42 | eythian | cool :) |
| 00:42 | well, good to know :) | |
| 00:42 | jcamins_away | Now, how do I change the home for an existing user? |
| 00:43 | usermod -d? | |
| 00:43 | eythian | usermod -d /var/lib/koha/$name $name-koha should do it |
| 00:43 | or vipw | |
| 00:43 | jcamins_away | Bother. |
| 00:44 | "user demo-koha is currently logged in." | |
| 00:44 | eythian | ah, sudo /etc/init.d/koha-common stop |
| 00:44 | (and start it when you're done) | |
| 00:44 | you may also need to stop apache | |
| 00:44 | or use vipw :) | |
| 00:44 | and then just restart all the services so they're not confused. | |
| 00:46 | jcamins_away | Thanks. |
| 00:47 | eythian | no worries |
| 00:48 | jcamins_away | I guess you don't use koha-restore much? :) |
| 00:50 | eythian | jcamins_away: not really, no. Our config between staging and prod is different enough that it's too much trouble. |
| 00:50 | jcamins_away: Bug 7217 | |
| 00:50 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7217 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, NEW , koha-restore doesn't correctly configure the home dir |
| 00:50 | eythian | patches welcome ;) |
| 00:50 | jcamins_away | Also bug 7216. |
| 00:50 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7216 normal, P5 - low, ---, robin, NEW , koha-restore doesn't set HOME |
| 00:51 | eythian | (should be a one-liner, I just have too much stuff to do in the short term.) |
| 00:51 | haha | |
| 00:51 | * jcamins_away | will let you mark yours as a duplicate while he sends the patch. |
| 00:51 | eythian | done the dup part already |
| 00:55 | jcamins_away | Done. |
| 00:56 | * jcamins_away | returns to what he's supposed to be doing. |
| 00:56 | eythian | sweet. Me too :) |
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| 01:04 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7216] koha-restore doesn't set HOME <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7216> |
| 01:06 | jcamins_away | oleonard: an unusual time for you to be around, isn't it? |
| 01:06 | oleonard | Yup. Had a free moment and felt like tinkering. |
| 01:08 | I don't know whether this is a usual time for you jcamins_away :) | |
| 01:08 | cait joined #koha | |
| 01:08 | cait left #koha | |
| 01:08 | eythian | hi cait |
| 01:08 | jcamins_away | oleonard: pretty much every time is usual for me. |
| 01:08 | eythian | bye cait |
| 01:08 | jcamins_away | Definitely not a usual time for cait. |
| 01:12 | eythian | ah, another reason to not use [BZ...] for bugs, it's automatically stripped out sometimes by git. |
| 01:12 | (the other reason being I just think it doesn't look nice :) | |
| 01:12 | jcamins_away | Hmm... I just did what I thought chris_n said to. |
| 01:12 | eythian | yeah, but when I signed off, git stripped it out. |
| 01:13 | (which is why I put Bug .... - ... at the top, I thought you hadn't. | |
| 01:13 | ) | |
| 01:14 | curiously, git bz must have seen that it wasn't there, and inserted the URL, too. | |
| 01:14 | nice of it. | |
| 01:14 | crap, lunch ordered and I forgot about it. bbiab | |
| 01:14 | jcamins_away | oleonard: what are you tinkering on? |
| 01:14 | :) | |
| 01:15 | oleonard | I have a grand plan for a restructuring of the OPAC templates, one which would require many hours of work I'm not getting paid to do |
| 01:15 | But I wanted to test something, so I thought I'd tinker a bit | |
| 01:15 | * oleonard | is now wondering why he can't check out one of his remote branches |
| 01:17 | jcamins_away | Uh-oh. |
| 01:18 | oleonard | Can I not check out a new branch based on a remote one with the same syntax? git checkout -b mybranch remote/branchname ? |
| 01:20 | jcamins_away | I just did that a few minutes ago. |
| 01:20 | Does mybranch already exist? | |
| 01:21 | oleonard | Oh wait, now it's working. |
| 01:22 | Gremlins. | |
| 01:39 | eythian | wahanui: gremlins is <reply>First of all, keep him out of the light, he hates bright light, especially sunlight, it'll kill him. Second, don't give him any water, not even to drink. But the most important rule, the rule you can never forget, no matter how much he cries, no matter how much he begs, never feed him after midnight. |
| 01:39 | wahanui | OK, eythian. |
| 01:44 | jcamins_away | Gremlins? |
| 01:44 | wahanui | First of all, keep him out of the light, he hates bright light, especially sunlight, it'll kill him. Second, don't give him any water, not even to drink. But the most important rule, the rule you can never forget, no matter how much he cries, no matter how much he begs, never feed him after midnight. |
| 01:46 | eythian | no, wahanui, gremlins is <reply>First of all, keep $who out of the light, he hates bright light, especially sunlight, it'll kill him. Second, don't give him any water, not even to drink. But the most important rule, the rule you can never forget, no matter how much he cries, no matter how much he begs, never feed him after midnight. |
| 01:46 | wahanui | okay, eythian. |
| 01:46 | eythian | gremlins? |
| 01:46 | wahanui | First of all, keep eythian out of the light, he hates bright light, especially sunlight, it'll kill him. Second, don't give him any water, not even to drink. But the most important rule, the rule you can never forget, no matter how much he cries, no matter how much he begs, never feed him after midnight. |
| 01:46 | eythian | heh |
| 01:47 | oleonard | Nice. |
| 01:51 | jcamins_away | gremlins? |
| 01:51 | wahanui | First of all, keep jcamins_away out of the light, he hates bright light, especially sunlight, it'll kill him. Second, don't give him any water, not even to drink. But the most important rule, the rule you can never forget, no matter how much he cries, no matter how much he begs, never feed him after midnight. |
| 01:51 | jcamins_away | Nifty! |
| 01:52 | * oleonard | wonders what percentage of contaminants is required to make water safe for mogwai consumption |
| 01:53 | eythian | those old mystic chinese people in those shops never seem to be very specific with their rules. |
| 02:04 | oleonard | Here's what I wanted to try: http://screencast.com/t/2HBAOANkC |
| 02:05 | Modal cart using jQueryUI. That's as much as works at the moment, but proof of concept. | |
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| 04:05 | eythian | does anyone have any photos of libraries running Koha that I can steal for a presentation? I just need one or two good pictures. |
| 04:05 | (koha in the photo isn't important, just the books and stuff) | |
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| 04:24 | rangi | I have a bunch |
| 04:25 | china, france, samoa, croatia | |
| 04:25 | that ppl sent me for kohacon09 | |
| 04:25 | remind me at work | |
| 04:28 | eythian | OK ta |
| 04:31 | what's the current best-guess as to the number of libraries with Koha? | |
| 04:31 | trying to see if I can convince LWC to tell me | |
| 04:34 | ah, it claims 1460 | |
| 04:34 | that'll do | |
| 04:35 | (as an estimate) | |
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| 07:02 | cait joined #koha | |
| 07:03 | cait | morning #koha |
| 07:03 | rangi | hi cait |
| 07:04 | cait | hi rangi |
| 07:11 | @wunder Konstanz | |
| 07:11 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 5.0°C (8:00 AM CET on November 12, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.49 in 1032 hPa (Rising). |
| 07:57 | Oak | hello miss cait :) |
| 07:57 | cait | hi Oak :) |
| 07:57 | got my message? | |
| 07:58 | Oak | yup, just now. i was away... preparing for exams. |
| 07:58 | thank you! | |
| 08:05 | cait | good luck for your exams :) |
| 08:05 | tuedsay to thursday? | |
| 08:09 | Oak | Monday to Wednesday -- 14th Nov to 16th Nov :) |
| 08:09 | thank you | |
| 08:10 | cait | ah |
| 08:10 | missed by one day | |
| 08:10 | what are the exams about? | |
| 08:17 | Oak | MLIS last semester, Effective Business Communication, Management of Serial Publications, and Project Management. |
| 08:19 | and i have to do a project also... but for that I have about two months. | |
| 08:20 | cait | oh wow |
| 08:20 | :) | |
| 08:22 | Oak | :] *sigh* break time is over... |
| 08:22 | back to studies | |
| 08:22 | cait | :) |
| 08:22 | * cait | sends cookies |
| 08:23 | * Oak | takes cookies (with thanks) and heads towards books |
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| 10:17 | Brooke | 0/ |
| 10:18 | for the next 3m anyway :D | |
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| 10:51 | Oak | cait, read an amusing example in Business Communication book just now. want to hear it? |
| 10:51 | cait | sure :) |
| 10:51 | Oak | okay, will type it in full first, then copy paste here, so there is no delay in reading... |
| 10:55 | cait | :) |
| 11:00 | Oak | okay, ready |
| 11:00 | here on main window? or in private. it's quite long | |
| 11:00 | cait | pm? |
| 11:00 | Oak | okay |
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| 13:11 | druthb | o/ |
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| 16:12 | bg | morning |
| 16:12 | druthb | sup bg? |
| 16:12 | bg | hey druthb |
| 16:12 | how you doing? | |
| 16:13 | druthb | feeling a little better this morning. Yesterday was no fun. |
| 16:16 | bg | good I'm glad you're feeling better :) |
| 16:39 | cait | hi bg and druthb :) |
| 16:40 | bg | hey cait |
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| 18:11 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 18:11 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 4.1°C (7:09 PM CET on November 12, 2011). Conditions: Mist. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.48 in 1032.1 hPa (Steady). |
| 18:13 | druthb | brr! |
| 18:13 | @wunder 38401 | |
| 18:13 | huginn | druthb: The current temperature in Spring Hill, Tennessee is 15.6°C (2:13 PM AST on November 12, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 42%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1020.9 hPa (Steady). |
| 18:16 | bg | @wunder 93109 |
| 18:16 | huginn | bg: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 16.9°C (10:15 AM PST on November 12, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008.0 hPa (Rising). |
| 18:16 | cait | yeah brr |
| 18:23 | rangi | http://www.pennlive.com/perry-[…]rary_expands.html |
| 18:26 | cait | oh, morning rangi |
| 18:26 | rangi | heya cait |
| 18:34 | druthb | hi, rangi. :) |
| 18:34 | rangi | heya druthb :) |
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| 19:03 | cait | hope it's better now |
| 19:03 | ah wrong window :) | |
| 19:03 | scrolling broken again, annoying | |
| 19:03 | Oak | :) |
| 19:03 | how is miss cait? | |
| 19:04 | cait | :) |
| 19:04 | how is Oak? | |
| 19:04 | done with learning for today? | |
| 19:04 | Oak | yup :) tired |
| 19:04 | druthb | hi, Oak! :) |
| 19:04 | Oak | i don't like exams. not really. |
| 19:04 | hello druthb :) | |
| 19:04 | cait | I think noone does |
| 19:05 | Oak | yeah |
| 19:07 | 12:15 am. | |
| 19:07 | me go now. | |
| 19:08 | good night. | |
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