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| 01:13 | druthb | dpavlin, you're up early! |
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| 01:35 | rangi | druthb: idle : 0 days 9 hours 59 mins 51 secs :-) not so much up |
| 01:36 | druthb | heh. he left hisself logged in then. Hi, rangi and BobB and trea! |
| 01:36 | rangi | heya druthb |
| 01:36 | trea | hiya |
| 01:37 | rangi | im betting he runs screen like me :) |
| 01:37 | or bip | |
| 01:37 | heya trea | |
| 01:37 | trea | hi rangi |
| 01:40 | druthb | me figures out what she's gonna wear the next two days, and for the plane ride home... |
| 01:45 | jcamins_away | Woohoo! Someone else "old fashioned"! |
| 01:45 | * jcamins_away | was told that it was old-fashioned to run irssi in screen. |
| 01:46 | rangi | heh |
| 01:47 | i run irssi in screen on my workstation at work | |
| 01:47 | but i also run bip | |
| 01:47 | * jcamins_away | just runs irssi in screen. |
| 01:48 | * druthb | is usually here when she's here, and not when she's not. |
| 01:48 | rangi | i used to, but bip makes it easier to connect without having to vpn in ... which is easier to do on the phone |
| 01:49 | * jcamins_away | just uses connectbot. |
| 01:49 | rangi | yeah you cant ssh to my workstation outside of the internal network |
| 01:49 | so that wont work ;) | |
| 01:50 | jcamins_away | Ah, yeah, that'd be a problem. |
| 01:50 | rangi | and i could spend years trying to get openvpn ported to android ... but lif'es too short :) |
| 01:50 | also i can't use apostrophes right | |
| 01:50 | :) | |
| 01:51 | jcamins_away | Totally over-rated. |
| 01:54 | rangi | heh |
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| 02:04 | Small | I need help with zebra |
| 02:05 | I think i just need to start it, but i dont know how to | |
| 02:10 | anybody | |
| 02:10 | wahanui: how to start zebra | |
| 02:10 | wahanui | Small: i'm not following you... |
| 02:10 | Small | hmm |
| 02:13 | So nobody knows how to start the zebrasrv? | |
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| 02:14 | Small | I need help with zebra |
| 02:14 | Can you help? | |
| 02:17 | ARGGG | |
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| 02:26 | Small | CAN SOMEONE HELP ME!!!!! |
| 02:26 | i have looked on wiki ad theres nothing there | |
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| 02:35 | rangi | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]cebb857de57f#l299 in the INSTALL.ubuntu file that comes with Koha, there is INSTALL.debian and many others, i suggest you read at least one of them |
| 02:36 | Small | ok |
| 02:40 | well, i read the things on zebra | |
| 02:41 | but when i run the rebuild_zebra script, it is not there | |
| 02:41 | rangi | not where? |
| 02:41 | wahanui | not are they just not ratbags |
| 02:41 | Small | they are not in the folder |
| 02:41 | it says that the files does not exist | |
| 02:41 | rangi | what folder |
| 02:41 | what exactly are you typing? | |
| 02:42 | Small | $ sudo -u ${KOHA_USER} misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra -z -b -a |
| 02:42 | rangi | in which directory? |
| 02:42 | and that wont work | |
| 02:42 | Small | well, i filled in KOHA_USER |
| 02:42 | rangi | you have to change ${KOHA_USER} to be the actual koha user |
| 02:42 | Small | i did |
| 02:43 | but what folder do i have to run it from? | |
| 02:43 | rangi | right so you must be in the wrong directory |
| 02:43 | Small | but what folder do i have to run it from? |
| 02:43 | rangi | what directory do you mean? |
| 02:43 | Small | well, where do i run that script |
| 02:43 | in the home folder? in system root? | |
| 02:44 | rangi | did you chose standard or dev install ? |
| 02:44 | Small | standard |
| 02:44 | rangi | then probably /usr/share/koha |
| 02:44 | wherever your koha installed is where you need to run it | |
| 02:44 | Small | ok |
| 02:44 | hold on | |
| 02:45 | misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra: command not found | |
| 02:46 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6210] Choose framework on Merge <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6210> |
| 02:46 | rangi | does whatever directory you are in have a misc dir in it? if not, you aren't in the right place |
| 02:46 | Small | yes it does |
| 02:47 | rangi | try with .pl on the end |
| 02:47 | Small | ok |
| 02:47 | misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.PL: command not found | |
| 02:49 | rangi | .pl |
| 02:49 | not .PL | |
| 02:49 | Small | ok |
| 02:50 | misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl: command not found | |
| 02:50 | :( | |
| 02:50 | rangi | ls -l misc/migration_tools/ |
| 02:50 | Small | ok |
| 02:51 | ls: cannot access misc/migration_tools/: No such file or directory | |
| 02:51 | :( | |
| 02:51 | rangi | ls -l misc |
| 02:52 | Small | koha-install-log translator |
| 02:52 | total 8 | |
| 02:52 | rangi | and you are utterly sure you did a standard install? |
| 02:53 | Small | im pretty sure |
| 02:53 | what would a non-standard install do? | |
| 02:53 | everything works | |
| 02:53 | exept all my searches are broken | |
| 02:53 | rangi | ls -l bin/ |
| 02:54 | Small | im going to join on the computer running the scripts |
| 02:54 | this one has alot | |
| 02:54 | just a sec | |
| 02:55 | arg | |
| 02:55 | i have a missing package, for java, and it errors downloading offline | |
| 02:55 | is there a specific file your looking for? | |
| 02:56 | rangi | in the dir, that you were just in |
| 02:56 | with the misc dir | |
| 02:56 | ls bin/migration_tools | |
| 02:56 | Small | there is that |
| 02:57 | that is there | |
| 02:57 | are you looking for a file in that? | |
| 02:57 | rangi | is rebuild_zebra.pl in there? |
| 02:58 | Small | its not letting me go in it |
| 02:59 | says file directory not found, and i spelled it right\ | |
| 03:00 | oh | |
| 03:00 | oops | |
| 03:02 | there is no migration tools in the /bin directory | |
| 03:02 | rangi | not /bin |
| 03:03 | Small | what? |
| 03:03 | rangi | i never said /bin |
| 03:03 | Small | oh, what did you say? |
| 03:03 | rangi | bin/ |
| 03:03 | Small | sorry, im thinking about 2 things at same time |
| 03:03 | rangi | in the directory you were in before |
| 03:03 | Small | so, usr/share/koha |
| 03:04 | rangi | if that is where you were before then yes |
| 03:04 | Small | ok |
| 03:04 | now i am in it | |
| 03:04 | what were you looking for? | |
| 03:04 | rangi | i wasnt |
| 03:04 | you were | |
| 03:04 | * rangi | is trying to work |
| 03:04 | Small | same thing :p what were "we" looking for? |
| 03:04 | rangi | look in bin/migration_tools/ |
| 03:05 | see if rebuild_zebra.pl is in there | |
| 03:05 | Small | i am there |
| 03:05 | rangi | run it if it is |
| 03:05 | Small | it is there |
| 03:05 | * rangi | goes back to what he is being paid to do now |
| 03:05 | Small | it says that the file / directory is not there |
| 03:06 | oh | |
| 03:06 | oops | |
| 03:06 | nevermind | |
| 03:06 | it says use -b or - a to run | |
| 03:09 | th script fails | |
| 03:09 | the script fails | |
| 03:09 | zebra_lock_create fail | |
| 03:11 | aborted on line 6 of rebuild_zebra.PL | |
| 03:12 | i'll comeback later | |
| 03:13 | rangi | maybe read |
| 03:13 | then come back | |
| 03:13 | sheesh | |
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| 03:31 | Amit_Gupta | heya chris |
| 03:31 | Good morning koha | |
| 03:33 | rangi | hi Amit_Gupta |
| 03:42 | Oak joined #koha | |
| 03:42 | * Oak | waves |
| 03:42 | Amit_Gupta | heya Oak |
| 03:43 | rangi | hi Oak |
| 03:43 | Oak | heya Amit_Gupta :) |
| 03:43 | hello rangi :-) | |
| 03:43 | kia ora #koha | |
| 03:43 | Amit_Gupta | Oak : finally return from kohacon |
| 03:43 | Oak | uh oh. all good things... |
| 03:44 | :) | |
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| 04:26 | Amit_Gupta | heya paul_p |
| 04:36 | heya andandology | |
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| 04:43 | Amit_Gupta | heya kmkale |
| 04:57 | kmkale | hi Amit_Gupta |
| 05:27 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6504] no way to enter shipping price in acq <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6504> |
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| 05:50 | cait | morning #koha |
| 05:50 | Amit_Gupta | heya cait |
| 05:50 | cait | hi Amit_Gupta |
| 05:50 | :) | |
| 05:59 | Amit_Gupta | :D |
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| 06:10 | BobB | hi mumbaikers |
| 06:10 | Is anyone still in Thane? | |
| 06:10 | * BobB | is in Sydney with dreadful jet lag :( |
| 06:11 | BobB | kmkale about? |
| 06:16 | * dpavlin | plans to make last Thane tour before leaving tonigh (after sleep without alaram clock - precious) |
| 06:18 | BobB | Travel well. |
| 06:26 | cait | save travels :) |
| 06:35 | Oak joined #koha | |
| 06:35 | Oak | hello cait :) |
| 06:35 | kia ora #koha | |
| 06:35 | cait | hi Oak :) |
| 06:45 | * Oak | goes back to True Believer |
| 06:45 | cait | :) |
| 07:02 | Amit_Gupta | heya BobB |
| 07:02 | heya dpavlin | |
| 07:02 | BobB | Hi Amit Gupta |
| 07:02 | Amit_Gupta | BobB: you are travelling |
| 07:03 | BobB | No we are home. We left Mumbai on Sunday morning and arrived very early in Sydney this morning. |
| 07:03 | @wunder Sydney New South Wales | |
| 07:03 | huginn | BobB: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 21.0°C (5:30 PM EST on November 07, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 20.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:04 | Amit_Gupta | aah! |
| 07:04 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 07:04 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 8.5°C (8:00 AM CET on November 07, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Windchill: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.94 in 1013.8 hPa (Rising). |
| 07:06 | BobB | cait I will swap you. High humidity with low temperature is easier to take. :) |
| 07:06 | cait | I think I would make the deal |
| 07:06 | we get more days like this, but not many more warm days now | |
| 07:20 | magnuse | namaskar #koha |
| 07:20 | @wunder boo | |
| 07:20 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 10.0°C (7:50 AM CET on November 07, 2011). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:20 | BobB | hi magnuse |
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| 07:24 | magnuse | hiya BobB |
| 07:24 | alex_a | hi #koha |
| 07:24 | Amit_Gupta | heya magnuse |
| 07:24 | magnuse | hiya alex_a and Amit_Gupta |
| 07:25 | cait | morning magnuse |
| 07:26 | magnuse | morgen cait |
| 07:29 | only ~8 months 'til kohacon12! | |
| 07:34 | Amit_Gupta | heya alex_a |
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| 07:40 | cait | magnuse: always the optimist :) |
| 07:41 | magnuse | yay |
| 07:42 | BobB | hey slef - are you about? |
| 07:43 | cait | bbiab |
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| 07:53 | clrh | hello |
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| 08:08 | magnuse | bonjour clrh et reiveune |
| 08:09 | reiveune | hello magnus and everybody |
| 08:09 | :) | |
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| 08:17 | magnuse | hiya kf and hdl |
| 08:18 | kf | hi #koha :) |
| 08:18 | hdl | hi all |
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| 08:27 | Amit_Gupta | heya hdl |
| 08:36 | hdl | hi Amit_Gupta |
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| 09:31 | Amit_Gupta | heya anadalogoy |
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| 10:39 | slef | hi all |
| 10:39 | kf1 | hi slef :) |
| 10:39 | slef | nailing down kohacon12 at last |
| 10:39 | kf1 | yay |
| 10:39 | was wondering if I can ask... or better not to | |
| 10:39 | * kf1 | is practically counting the days... to june |
| 10:40 | slef | The big decision is whether to put the conference Fr/Sa/Su or Tu/We/Th :-/ |
| 10:40 | We just can't do Mo/Tu/We. | |
| 10:40 | kf1 | hmm |
| 10:40 | I thik perhaps the latter? for the hackfet people will not mind staying for the weekend | |
| 10:40 | perhaps a bit harder for the conf | |
| 10:41 | slef | That's what I'm thinking. I'm just checking http://digital-conferences-calendar.info/ to see what we'd clash with. |
| 10:42 | kf1 | oh, SWIB is listed there |
| 10:42 | slef | It would overlap with THATCamp. Anyone know what that is? |
| 10:43 | kf1 | no idea |
| 10:43 | for tu/we/th it would not overlap I think? | |
| 10:44 | slef | kf1: depends how accurate their dates are :) |
| 10:44 | kf1 | ah, looking at the wrong year... |
| 10:44 | slef | kf1: I've done that at least once while planning! |
| 10:44 | kf1 | now it maeks sense |
| 10:45 | kf | not sure we have to worry about THATcamp |
| 10:45 | and it will happen like always | |
| 10:45 | once you have the dates set... someone else chooses to have an event on those dates | |
| 10:45 | slef | happen like always = we clash with stuff? |
| 10:45 | kf | you can't prevent that |
| 10:45 | it's murphy's law or something | |
| 10:46 | slef | yeah, as soon as we have it public, we'll announce dates as widely as we can and call for sponsorships |
| 10:47 | as soon as we have it fixed, even | |
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| 11:02 | kf | cool :) |
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| 11:55 | jcamins_away | Yay! KohaCon12 in Edinburgh! |
| 11:56 | kf | yay :) |
| 11:56 | morning jared | |
| 11:59 | jcamins | Morning. |
| 11:59 | Back to work? | |
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| 12:17 | NateC | Morning Everyone |
| 12:17 | Morning! | |
| 12:17 | (that second one was in the wrong window :) | |
| 12:18 | jcamins | NateC: congratulations! |
| 12:19 | NateC | Thanks jcamins |
| 12:19 | but what for :)? | |
| 12:19 | kf | morning NateC :) |
| 12:19 | NateC | Hi kf! |
| 12:20 | jcamins | NateC: didn't you get married or something? |
| 12:20 | :P | |
| 12:20 | reiveune left #koha | |
| 12:20 | NateC | been out for awhile, we finally got to take our honeymoon |
| 12:20 | we got married in September | |
| 12:20 | but thanks!! :D | |
| 12:20 | jcamins | Yeah, but I don't recall speaking to you since then. I've hardly been around at normal times. |
| 12:21 | kf | where have you been to? |
| 12:21 | NateC | Antigua |
| 12:21 | it was niiice | |
| 12:21 | hdl | congrats NateC |
| 12:21 | NateC | but we had to come back to SNOW!!!! |
| 12:21 | thanks hdl | |
| 12:21 | kf | :) |
| 12:22 | * hdl | thought it had been done way before. |
| 12:22 | NateC | nope when I saw you in NZ I was getting ready to propose |
| 12:22 | wow its been a year since then! | |
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| 12:30 | jcamins | NateC: I've been married for over a year. Goodness how time flies! |
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| 12:37 | * eythian | is now waiting in Singapore for the long part of the trip home. |
| 12:38 | jcamins | eythian: I've heard that Singapore airport is pretty great. Is that true? |
| 12:39 | eythian | It is. If you have to spend time in transit, this is the place to do it. |
| 12:39 | Has a movie theatre, swimming poll, etc. | |
| 12:40 | If you're here for several hours, you can do a tour of Singapore too | |
| 12:41 | kf | eythian: sounds pretty nice |
| 12:41 | eythian: I bet they have showers too | |
| 12:42 | eythian | They do. |
| 12:42 | But, this time I'm only here for an hour or so, so it was straight to the next gate. | |
| 12:42 | kf | next time I fly to nz - singapore hehe |
| 12:42 | ah ok | |
| 12:43 | save travels :) | |
| 12:45 | eythian | Also, Singapore airlines is also pretty great |
| 12:46 | * eythian | will be boarding soon, cya later |
| 12:46 | kf | bye :) |
| 12:46 | * magnuse | waves |
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| 13:12 | magnuse | ooh, PerlCritic on FLOSS Weekly: http://twit.tv/show/floss-weekly/189 |
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| 13:14 | Oak | Kavinsky - Nightcall http://www.youtube.com/watch?v[…]_3Dpw-BRY&ob=av2e |
| 13:14 | magnuse | |
| 13:14 | magnuse | Oak |
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| 13:17 | druthb | o/ |
| 13:17 | jcamins | \o |
| 13:18 | magnuse | o/ |
| 13:22 | oleonard | druthb: When do you come back? |
| 13:22 | druthb | we fly out of Mumbai tomorrow night, local, landing at Newark Wednesday morning...then I'm in the air much of the day, to get back to Nashville via Milwaukee. |
| 13:24 | oleonard | bugzilla tells me hackfest was productive |
| 13:24 | jcamins | oleonard: yeah, there are almost as many bugs needing sign off as there were before the hackfest. ;) |
| 13:25 | magnuse | and i have ~200 unread *threads* from the bugs mailing list etc... |
| 13:27 | druthb | it seemed to be very productive. Ian wasn't satisfied--he wanted more done, of course. But it went well, and the bunch of learners and translators here was just awesome. |
| 13:27 | oleonard | It's such a treat to get together in the same room... hard to reproduce that productivity virtually. |
| 13:31 | druthb | I'm told a lot of progress was made on the Marathi translation, which is something they need here. |
| 13:33 | magnuse | that's very cool! |
| 13:33 | pootle only says 2% translated, though... | |
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| 13:51 | * oleonard | can now see what "P5" means and still doesn't know what difference priority makes |
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| 13:59 | magnuse | namaste kmkale and paul_p |
| 14:00 | paul_p | hi magnuse ! we are heading for dinner now. Then... back to France ! (take-off at 3AM... ouch...) |
| 14:00 | really a *great* KohaCon and time in india ! | |
| 14:00 | magnuse | wow, that's a nice time to take off! |
| 14:00 | yay | |
| 14:00 | have a nice dinner! | |
| 14:10 | kf | nice dinner and sace travels paul_away |
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| 14:15 | magnuse | kf: s/sace/space/ ? ;-) |
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| 14:16 | oleonard_ | space_travels++ |
| 14:17 | kf | save... :) |
| 14:17 | hi oleonard | |
| 14:17 | a question about your yui replacement branch | |
| 14:18 | is the alpha widget for menus included there? or still using yui then? | |
| 14:18 | oleonard | Still YUI |
| 14:18 | kf | is there another way we could do menus with jquery than using the widget? perhaps writing our 'own' widget? |
| 14:18 | is the problem pull down buttons basically? and split buttons? | |
| 14:18 | oleonard | It may be getting to the point where we should do that. I didn't realize until I started writing that email that I'd been maintaining the branch for almost a year now |
| 14:19 | ...but I then we'll need to switch to the jQuery-native version when it becomes available | |
| 14:19 | kf | hmm |
| 14:19 | oleonard | (at least I would prefer to, to keep things simple) |
| 14:19 | kf | yeah |
| 14:19 | magnuse | keeping_things_simple++ |
| 14:19 | kf | is there something else people are using perhaps? |
| 14:20 | hard to believe there is no solution at all for buttons | |
| 14:20 | or menus | |
| 14:21 | I would like to kill those buttons (in hope for better accessibility) | |
| 14:21 | hdl | kf: we could be using menus with css and not use any js for that. |
| 14:21 | kf | which seems to be aproblem with yui |
| 14:21 | hdl | http://cssmenumaker.com/ |
| 14:22 | kf | I think owen has the best overview of the elements used and what we need to replace |
| 14:22 | I was only hoping we could make the change happen sometime soon | |
| 14:22 | oleonard | kf: I would like to know more about the accessibility problems you've heard about |
| 14:23 | kf | I had no time before my vacation to investigage - as soon as I can I will give you an update |
| 14:23 | I have a new library with a blind staff member, using braille line and jaws as a screen reader | |
| 14:24 | one problem is the reading sequence in cataloging | |
| 14:24 | apparently it reads all indicators (the column) and the fields after that | |
| 14:24 | hdl | kf: or this one : http://www.tutofr.com/tutoriau[…]ise_en_page_4.php |
| 14:24 | kf | which of course makes it hard to find out which indicator belongs to what |
| 14:24 | and the other problem I got told is the pull down menu buttons | |
| 14:24 | oleonard: the example they printed for me is about the edit, save and new buttons on the catalog detail page in staff | |
| 14:25 | they write that the pull down will not open for them - it does on the screenshots, I think they mean that the reader does not see it perhaps | |
| 14:26 | hm I see on the screenshots they are workign with ie.. perhaps worth a try in firefox? | |
| 14:27 | hdl | http://oreilly.com/pub/a/javas[…]23/rollovers.html |
| 14:29 | This link is also a ressource in order not to use javascript to build up menus. | |
| 14:30 | kf | hdl: I think it's interesting, but I am not an expert here :( |
| 14:30 | I am not sure why we chose to do it with yui in the past and what the limitations/requirements are | |
| 14:31 | hdl | or this http://purecssmenu.com/ |
| 14:32 | kf: I am not expert either. just wanted to say there could be solutions to make that work well only with css. | |
| 14:32 | kf: neither do I remember it has ever been discussed somewhere that we should use yui for buttons. | |
| 14:33 | oleonard | We didn't vote on it or anything, it was my decision. |
| 14:33 | kf | I think it was probably the easiest way to do pull downs, but things might have changed with new options in browsers and such now |
| 14:33 | oleonard | The primary disadvantage of CSS menus as I see it is that they pop up whether you meant to hover over them or not |
| 14:34 | kf | they don't react to clicks? |
| 14:35 | oleonard | No, not as far as I know |
| 14:35 | Javascript is required for interactions with clicks | |
| 14:35 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6752] Be stricter with utf-8 output <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6752> |
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| 14:38 | kf | oleonard: makes sense |
| 14:38 | sorry meeting | |
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| 14:43 | oleonard | Could someone please try to access http://www.myacpl.org and tell me if it works? |
| 14:43 | jcamins | Works for me. |
| 14:43 | trea | ^^ |
| 14:43 | rhcl | I was just there...on now actually |
| 14:43 | alex_a | it works oleonard |
| 14:43 | * oleonard | grumbles |
| 14:44 | wizzyrea | oleonard: works from here |
| 14:45 | * oleonard | wonders why it doesn't work for him |
| 14:45 | wizzyrea | can you ping it? |
| 14:45 | trea | dns problem perhaps? |
| 14:45 | ping by name vs ping by IP | |
| 14:46 | wizzyrea | hmm, some problems here |
| 14:46 | http://www.dnssy.com/report.php?q=myacpl.org | |
| 14:47 | (yes, that takes ages to load. | |
| 14:47 | ) | |
| 14:47 | mostly mismatches between nsx.ohio.gov vs nsx.state.oh.us | |
| 14:47 | so maybe they did some maintenance at the state where your DNS is hosted? | |
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| 14:50 | oleonard | Thanks for checking everyone |
| 14:50 | jcamins | oleonard: could also be a misconfigured internal view. |
| 14:51 | oleonard | We had some people doing some checking of our internal network over the weekend |
| 14:51 | ...but I was able to connect to one of our sites earlier this morning | |
| 14:52 | jcamins | oleonard: also, apparently lots of unrelated IRC networks are experiencing netsplits today. |
| 14:52 | It's the end of the Internet! | |
| 14:52 | wizzyrea | well we did have earthquakes in Kansas this weekend. |
| 14:52 | * jcamins | runs around waving his hands in the air in a disturbed fashion. |
| 14:52 | wizzyrea | might just be the end of the world |
| 14:53 | oleonard | Anonymous has struck, and is taking down high profile targets like Ohio public libraries! |
| 14:53 | wizzyrea | "muppet arming" |
| 14:53 | * wizzyrea | remembers the iranians who went after kansas libraries, shudders. |
| 14:53 | wizzyrea | (I wish that were a joke) |
| 14:53 | * oleonard | doesn't remember that! |
| 14:54 | wizzyrea | that was... late 2009 I guess. |
| 15:00 | best bug report ever: http://feedproxy.google.com/~r[…]kernel-panic.html | |
| 15:01 | jcamins | wizzyrea: awesome! |
| 15:02 | The bug report, not the Iranians going after the Kansas libraries (and why did they do that?). | |
| 15:03 | oleonard | they hate our freedom *and* our wide selection of picture books |
| 15:03 | wizzyrea | precisely |
| 15:03 | ;) | |
| 15:08 | jcamins | oleonard: http://www.downforeveryoneorju[…]ryoneorjustme.com :P |
| 15:10 | It's down for me, too, BTW | |
| 15:10 | wizzyrea | i bet the DNS cache is expiring |
| 15:11 | still up from here, we use OpenDNS | |
| 15:11 | for resolving | |
| 15:11 | * oleonard | rushes to get his day's worth of internet surfing done |
| 15:11 | wizzyrea | naw, the DNS cache for just your domain -- they've mucked something up at your DNS host |
| 15:12 | jcamins | downforeveryoneorjustme is down for me. myacpl is up. |
| 15:12 | wizzyrea | lol o |
| 15:12 | nm then | |
| 15:12 | * wizzyrea | misunderstood |
| 15:14 | oleonard | also down for me, oddly enough, Amazon cover images. Or is that an API change kicking in? |
| 15:14 | wizzyrea | oh hm |
| 15:15 | amazons are working for me | |
| 15:15 | oleonard, do you have control over the DNS settings on your own machine? | |
| 15:15 | i wonder if the server you are using for your resolver has changed or is down | |
| 15:16 | you can try putting google or another DNS resolver in | |
| 15:16 | oleonard | We are using OpenDNS too. No DNS setup on my machine |
| 15:17 | wizzyrea | weird. |
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| 15:31 | oleonard | Response from upstream, "I think it's a TWT issue we're working on ATM; 95% sure it's not your problem" |
| 15:31 | What the hell is a TWT issue? Some twit broke the internet? | |
| 15:33 | jcamins | Traveling-wave tube. |
| 15:35 | wizzyrea | that is an acronym even I don't know |
| 15:37 | jcamins | Totally Weird Transitory issue? |
| 15:49 | slef | OpenDNS breaks messily IME |
| 15:51 | * wizzyrea | has never had any messy breakages of OpenDNS |
| 15:52 | wizzyrea | but, then again, i gave it a tincture of bat ears and eye of newt. |
| 15:53 | oleonard | Idea: pass results of guided reports directly to bulk operations like item edit, item delete, list and cart creation. |
| 15:54 | Aaaand... we're back. | |
| 15:56 | they must have gotten the Trans-Warp Terminal back online. | |
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| 16:09 | wizzyrea | someone scrubbed out the EPS conduits. |
| 16:10 | kf | sun spots? |
| 16:10 | oleonard | the computer's gel-packs got the sneezles. |
| 16:12 | * chris_n | learns the 'exec' command by trial and error :-/ |
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| 16:17 | jcamins | oleonard++ # his Twitter is very entertaining. |
| 16:17 | wizzyrea | *nod* |
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| 16:18 | * jcamins | waves to the KohaConners again. |
| 16:18 | kf | oleonard++ |
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| 16:21 | reiveune | bye |
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| 16:28 | * dpavlin | wants to thank everyone at KohaCon for great time! Off to airport in few hours... |
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| 16:59 | Oak | hello cait at home :) |
| 17:00 | cait | hello Oak :) |
| 17:00 | Oak | had dinner? |
| 17:00 | cait | having dinner right now :) |
| 17:00 | Oak | good :) |
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| 17:05 | Oak | hello druthb :) |
| 17:05 | wizzyrea | hi ruth |
| 17:06 | druthb | Hi, Oak and wizzyrea! |
| 17:06 | Oak | hello wizzyrea :) |
| 17:06 | ladybug is having dinner | |
| 17:06 | * jcamins | tries to come up with a fast and easy idea for lunch and dinner that doesn't require more than one pot, or anything he doesn't have on hand. |
| 17:07 | Oak | pot? |
| 17:07 | jcamins | And preferably isn't dal, because at some point Shari is going to get fed up with me making dal and just throw it in my face when I serve it to her again. |
| 17:07 | Oak: yeah, for cooking in. | |
| 17:07 | I don't _really_ have use of my kitchen. | |
| 17:07 | Oak | ah, not marijuana |
| 17:08 | jcamins | No. |
| 17:08 | Oak | good |
| 17:08 | :] | |
| 17:08 | * Oak | just says random silly things |
| 17:09 | Oak | ooh, the roach problem. cracks filled? |
| 17:09 | jcamins | Yup. |
| 17:09 | And the entire place coated with poison. | |
| 17:10 | Oak | ah, i was about to write "that's good". not anymore. |
| 17:10 | jcamins | I don't anticipate it will make that much of a difference, but every little bit helps. |
| 17:10 | Oak | hmm |
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| 17:14 | Oak | how is the cough sekjal |
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| 17:15 | sekjal | a little better, but still there |
| 17:15 | Oak | good that it's better... |
| 17:20 | rhcl | turkeyburgers |
| 17:25 | wizzyrea | oleonard: i changed the wording back as suggested on 6323 |
| 17:26 | oleonard | wizzyrea++ |
| 17:26 | wizzyrea | it makes the button huge but... oh well. |
| 17:28 | oleonard | huge butt |
| 17:28 | -ons++ | |
| 17:29 | wizzyrea | lol |
| 17:29 | are you channelling sir mix a lot? | |
| 17:29 | druthb | @roulette |
| 17:29 | huginn | druthb: *click* |
| 17:29 | druthb | @roulette |
| 17:29 | huginn | druthb: *click* |
| 17:29 | druthb | dang. |
| 17:29 | @roulette | |
| 17:29 | huginn | druthb: *click* |
| 17:29 | * wizzyrea | takes the gun away from druthb |
| 17:29 | druthb | ! |
| 17:30 | wizzyrea | and tosses it in some quick dry concrete. |
| 17:31 | cait | @roulette |
| 17:31 | huginn | cait: *click* |
| 17:31 | magnuse | @roulette |
| 17:31 | huginn | *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?! |
| 17:31 | * huginn | reloads and spins the chambers. |
| 17:31 | cait | lol |
| 17:31 | * wizzyrea | hrmphs |
| 17:31 | magnuse | blanks++ |
| 17:31 | cait | @roulette |
| 17:31 | huginn | cait: *click* |
| 17:31 | cait | @roulette |
| 17:31 | huginn | cait: *click* |
| 17:32 | cait | yeah, this day really... |
| 17:32 | * druthb | takes the gun from cait |
| 17:32 | hands it to wizzy | |
| 17:32 | magnuse | @roulette |
| 17:32 | huginn | *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?! |
| 17:32 | * huginn | reloads and spins the chambers. |
| 17:32 | magnuse | blanks++ |
| 17:32 | * wizzyrea | tosses it in the quick dro concrete |
| 17:32 | wizzyrea | s/dro/dry |
| 17:32 | druthb | lol |
| 17:32 | wizzyrea | i'm gonna have a collection. |
| 17:33 | * wizzyrea | snatches the gun from magnuse and adds it to her collection |
| 17:33 | magnuse | oy! |
| 17:33 | druthb | hehehe |
| 17:33 | poor magnuse! | |
| 17:33 | magnuse | nah, it was old and worn |
| 17:34 | cait | @roulette |
| 17:34 | huginn | cait: *click* |
| 17:34 | cait | grrr |
| 17:34 | @roulette | |
| 17:34 | huginn | cait: *click* |
| 17:34 | wizzyrea | these things are multiplying! |
| 17:34 | cait | @roulette |
| 17:34 | huginn | cait: *click* |
| 17:34 | cait | @roulette ! |
| 17:34 | huginn | cait: (roulette [spin]) -- Fires the revolver. If the bullet was in the chamber, you're dead. Tell me to spin the chambers and I will. |
| 17:34 | cait | @roulette |
| 17:34 | huginn | *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?! |
| 17:34 | * huginn | reloads and spins the chambers. |
| 17:35 | cait | finally |
| 17:35 | magnuse | @roulette spin |
| 17:35 | huginn | *SPIN* Are you feeling lucky? |
| 17:35 | magnuse | @roulette |
| 17:35 | huginn | magnuse: *click* |
| 17:35 | cait | how was your day magnuse? |
| 17:35 | * cait | is a zombie now |
| 17:36 | magnuse | cait: not bad, got some work done on the library history wiki... |
| 17:36 | y'all following the discussion on "Bibliographic Framework Transition Initiative Forum" http://listserv.loc.gov/cgi-bin/wa?A0=BIBFRAME ? | |
| 17:36 | sekjal | @roulette |
| 17:36 | huginn | sekjal: *click* |
| 17:36 | wizzyrea | some |
| 17:36 | cait | nope |
| 17:36 | I wil wait for the book | |
| 17:36 | * jcamins | is waiting for the cliff's notes. |
| 17:37 | * magnuse | thinks we live in interesting times... |
| 17:37 | magnuse | but has not managed to keep up with the list so far... |
| 17:39 | cait | you can say that |
| 17:39 | but I would have wished for this day to be a bit less interesting | |
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| 17:40 | libsysguy | hey #Koha |
| 17:40 | anybody know how i could disable comment approval? | |
| 17:41 | cait | hmm |
| 17:41 | not sure it's possible | |
| 17:41 | wizzyrea | i think there's a syspref for require moderation |
| 17:41 | libsysguy | hmm |
| 17:41 | yeah i was looking for one | |
| 17:41 | but I can't find it | |
| 17:42 | nothing relivant when i search for 'comment' | |
| 17:42 | * druthb | waves to libsysguy. |
| 17:42 | libsysguy | HI druthb |
| 17:42 | rangi | look for reviews |
| 17:42 | there is a syspref | |
| 17:43 | * oleonard | just was, doesn't see it |
| 17:43 | cait | I know you can turn it off for tags |
| 17:43 | hm. | |
| 17:43 | * magnuse | can't see it either - just reviewson, ShowReviewer, ShowReviewerPhoto |
| 17:43 | wizzyrea | yea, i'm not seeing a pref for "no moderation" |
| 17:43 | libsysguy | ^^ |
| 17:44 | rangi | hmm there def used to be |
| 17:44 | cait | you can have different mechanism for tag approval, not sure about comments |
| 17:44 | rangi | back when it was reviews |
| 17:44 | and before tags | |
| 17:44 | libsysguy | what is library thing? |
| 17:44 | cait | I tried moder*, comment and review |
| 17:44 | no match | |
| 17:44 | rangi | shouldn't be hard to put back |
| 17:44 | magnuse | libsysguy: http://www.librarything.com/ |
| 17:45 | libsysguy | was just looking at that |
| 17:45 | oleonard | I think maybe moderation was added without giving the option of turning it off |
| 17:45 | libsysguy | is that the way koha does mobile? |
| 17:45 | magnuse | at least it's how wizzyrea does mobile ;-) |
| 17:45 | libsysguy | hehe |
| 17:45 | wizzyrea | library anywhere is how NEKLS does it |
| 17:45 | oleonard | Wait, Bug 2431 |
| 17:45 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2431 major, P3, ---, chris, RESOLVED FIXED, Bug with Comments Moderation when Editing |
| 17:46 | oleonard | "When you enter a comment, it goes into moderation if moderation is turned on." |
| 17:46 | "if moderation is turned on" | |
| 17:46 | rangi | yeah |
| 17:47 | i was pretty sure | |
| 17:47 | libsysguy | so this isn't pushed yet? |
| 17:47 | cait | no |
| 17:47 | this is a bug | |
| 17:47 | if you enter a comment | |
| 17:47 | libsysguy | ahh |
| 17:47 | cait | someone approves it |
| 17:47 | it shows up | |
| 17:47 | person comes back | |
| 17:47 | sees a typo | |
| 17:48 | edits the own comment | |
| 17:48 | comment lost | |
| 17:48 | forever | |
| 17:48 | libsysguy | oh noo |
| 17:48 | cait | in the depth of the database |
| 17:48 | yeah | |
| 17:48 | I filed that a looong time ago | |
| 17:48 | noone care | |
| 17:48 | s | |
| 17:48 | sorry, bad mood tonight | |
| 17:48 | libsysguy | oh no cait whats wrong? |
| 17:48 | * wizzyrea | soothes cait |
| 17:49 | cait | first day back at work after vacation |
| 17:49 | libsysguy | ohhh |
| 17:49 | well that explains a lot | |
| 17:49 | wizzyrea | *nod* I have mondayitis. |
| 17:49 | * druthb | soothes cait, too |
| 17:50 | cait | aaaq |
| 17:50 | aaaw even | |
| 17:50 | * wizzyrea | gives cait yummy cookies |
| 17:51 | * cait | nibbles |
| 17:51 | cait | thx |
| 17:57 | hm | |
| 17:57 | @roulette | |
| 17:57 | huginn | cait: *click* |
| 17:57 | cait | more cookies? |
| 17:57 | magnuse | cait: try spinning first? |
| 17:57 | * druthb | hands over cookies |
| 17:58 | cait | :) |
| 17:58 | it worked | |
| 17:58 | * cait | hands wizzyrea the gun |
| 17:58 | wizzyrea | :D |
| 18:03 | * druthb | pulls out another gun, and hands it to huginn. |
| 18:03 | druthb | @roulette |
| 18:03 | huginn | druthb: *click* |
| 18:04 | druthb | @roulette |
| 18:04 | huginn | druthb: *click* |
| 18:04 | druthb | @roulette |
| 18:04 | druthb was kicked by huginn: BANG! | |
| 18:04 | * huginn | reloads and spins the chambers. |
| 18:04 | wizzyrea | take that. |
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| 18:04 | druthb | lol |
| 18:04 | * wizzyrea | gave huginn powers. |
| 18:04 | druthb | lulz |
| 18:05 | goodness. 5 after midnight. | |
| 18:05 | Heaven knows I need all the beauty sleep I can get, but I'm not tired. | |
| 18:07 | sekjal | ditto |
| 18:08 | * cait | hands druthb cookies |
| 18:08 | * druthb | takes the cookies, and shares with sekjal |
| 18:09 | cait | when is your flight? |
| 18:10 | druthb | late-late tomorrow night. |
| 18:10 | cait | aah |
| 18:10 | what are you gonna do tomorrow? | |
| 18:11 | druthb | eat breakfast with jransom and Brooke, before they head out, and then pack, stow our luggage somewhere, and wander about some. maybe shop a little. |
| 18:11 | sekjal | find a spice market if we can |
| 18:11 | cait | :) |
| 18:12 | druthb | :) |
| 18:12 | wizzyrea | mmm spice market |
| 18:14 | cait | if you 2 can't sleep... you could get together and fix the moderations bug for libsysguy ;) |
| 18:14 | wizzyrea | hehe |
| 18:14 | weird that the pref went missing | |
| 18:14 | * cait | is not so surprised really |
| 18:15 | cait | but that might be this monday |
| 18:15 | magnuse | no sleep 'til git send-email! |
| 18:18 | sekjal | going to force myself to bed |
| 18:18 | druthb: I recommend you do the same | |
| 18:19 | druthb | I'm going to, in a few. |
| 18:19 | magnuse | in a few what? hours? ;-) |
| 18:19 | * magnuse | demands more specificity! |
| 18:20 | * druthb | pokes magnuse. |
| 18:20 | druthb | in a few minutes, you crazy Norwegian. |
| 18:20 | :P | |
| 18:20 | magnuse | moahaha! |
| 18:28 | sekjal | druthb: it's been more than a few... go to bed! |
| 18:29 | cait | magnuse: shouldn't the crazy norwegian call it a day too? |
| 18:29 | * cait | hides |
| 18:29 | magnuse | look who's talking! ;-) |
| 18:29 | cait | hehe |
| 18:29 | druthb | only if you go too, sekjal! Dun make me come down there and tuck you in! |
| 18:29 | magnuse | nope, the crazy norwegian is going to work a little bit more |
| 18:29 | rangi | back from the bus stop |
| 18:29 | magnuse | ata marie rangi |
| 18:30 | cait | morning rangi :) |
| 18:30 | druthb | okay....off to bed for Ruthie. rangi or wizzyrea, if sekjal isn't gone in a couple of minutes, clobber him for me? |
| 18:30 | * sekjal | disppears |
| 18:30 | magnuse | will do! |
| 18:31 | cait | she doesn't trust me to do it apparently |
| 18:31 | druthb | you're not an op, cait. |
| 18:31 | cait | *sniff* |
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| 18:35 | rangi | hi nengard |
| 18:35 | nengard | hiya |
| 18:39 | Oak | me go now to bed. |
| 18:39 | see you guys tomorrow. | |
| 18:39 | magnuse | see ya Oak |
| 18:39 | dang | |
| 18:39 | rangi | heh |
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| 18:51 | magnuse | "Powered by Koha" - oh yes, baby! |
| 18:51 | cait | hehe |
| 18:51 | rangi | Hehe |
| 18:52 | magnuse | but the global default is "off"? |
| 18:52 | cait | will turn that on, once we have updated them all.. muhar |
| 18:52 | magnuse: for new instalations too? | |
| 18:52 | rangi | I think on for new |
| 18:52 | magnuse | hm, maybe just for old ones? |
| 18:52 | rangi | off for upgrades |
| 18:53 | magnuse | yup, you are right! |
| 18:53 | rangi | cait usually is |
| 18:53 | magnuse | guess that makes sense too |
| 18:53 | :-) | |
| 18:53 | cait | cait usually is? |
| 18:53 | rangi | right |
| 18:53 | cait | oh |
| 18:54 | magnuse | that reminds me of our little "report to the mothership" feature... |
| 18:54 | cait | lol |
| 18:55 | rangi | yeah |
| 18:56 | should write that sometime | |
| 18:56 | cait | can we call it that? |
| 18:57 | rangi | Hehe |
| 18:57 | magnuse | go rangi go go go ;-) |
| 18:57 | rangi | say hi to the community feature |
| 18:58 | magnuse | bug 6293 |
| 18:58 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6293 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, NEW , Add a button to the intranet for registering with the Koha community |
| 18:58 | rangi | that one |
| 18:59 | my stop | |
| 18:59 | bbiab | |
| 19:03 | magnuse | is the syntax of the isbd syspref explained anywhere? |
| 19:04 | and is there a syspref for turning off the isbd view in the opac? i couldn't find it... | |
| 19:06 | wizzyrea | numsearchRSSresults - only RSS and not all searches? |
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| 19:06 | wizzyrea | (seems logical, but just double checking) |
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| 19:12 | cait | magnuse: you can do it with css |
| 19:12 | magnuse: but there also might be a syspref | |
| 19:12 | or emptying it out | |
| 19:12 | magnuse | $('#ISBDview').empty(); ? |
| 19:12 | wizzyrea | you can definitely do it with CSS, I couldn't find a syspref for it |
| 19:13 | or #isbdview { display: none;} | |
| 19:13 | or somesuch | |
| 19:13 | magnuse | argh, i'm putting js in the css syspref... |
| 19:13 | time to call it a day real soon now... | |
| 19:13 | wizzyrea | do note I haven't tried that :P |
| 19:13 | though I think I *will* | |
| 19:13 | because that view isn't for patrons. | |
| 19:13 | cait | wizzyrea: looks right to me |
| 19:17 | magnuse | hm, my attempt at jquery does not seem to work... |
| 19:18 | cait | you shoudl try the csss |
| 19:18 | it's nicer too | |
| 19:18 | magnuse? | |
| 19:18 | wahanui | somebody said magnuse was afraid that we added another 10000 bugs while he was eating pizza. |
| 19:18 | magnuse | hm, no luck with that either |
| 19:20 | cait | let me check ) |
| 19:20 | you put it in opacusercss? | |
| 19:21 | #ISBDview {display:none;} | |
| 19:21 | * magnuse | just learned that css selectors are case sensitive |
| 19:21 | wizzyrea | a#ISBDview {display:none;} |
| 19:21 | cait | yep |
| 19:21 | I was about to tell you that :) | |
| 19:21 | oleonard joined #koha | |
| 19:21 | magnuse | guess i always use lowercase when i write html... |
| 19:22 | cait | metoo |
| 19:22 | oleonard | $("#ISBDview").parent().remove(); |
| 19:22 | (if you want the js) | |
| 19:22 | magnuse | wizzyrea++ |
| 19:22 | oleonard++ | |
| 19:22 | cait | wizzyrea++ |
| 19:22 | oleonard++ | |
| 19:22 | wizzyrea | oleonard++ |
| 19:22 | oleonard | cait++ |
| 19:22 | magnuse++ | |
| 19:22 | wizzyrea | karma party :) |
| 19:22 | wahanui | party :) has neutral karma |
| 19:23 | cait | hehe |
| 19:23 | oleonard | wizzyrea++ |
| 19:23 | magnuse | cait++ |
| 19:23 | wizzyrea | ack lol |
| 19:23 | oleonard | party++ |
| 19:23 | magnuse | party++ |
| 19:23 | hehe | |
| 19:25 | i'm calling it a day - take care, koha friends! | |
| 19:25 | wizzyrea | magnuse++ cait++ |
| 19:25 | ha | |
| 19:25 | cait | lol |
| 19:27 | wizzyrea | @later tell magnuse thanks for bringing up the idea to hide the ISBD view with CSS - I did that on NExpress and I feel much happier with it. ;) |
| 19:27 | huginn | wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. |
| 19:28 | rangi | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Alternative_names |
| 19:28 | from magnuse | |
| 19:28 | wizzyrea | whoooot |
| 19:28 | cait | rofl |
| 19:28 | wizzyrea | oh I see we are cheering cait up :_ |
| 19:28 | :) | |
| 19:28 | cait | yeah, you are the best |
| 19:31 | paul_p joined #koha | |
| 19:34 | rangi | http://fsfe.org/news/2011/news[…]111107-01.en.html |
| 19:34 | so totally not cool | |
| 19:34 | ijits | |
| 19:38 | wizzyrea | doh! |
| 19:38 | cait | ok,rangi is killing the mood again |
| 19:39 | wizzyrea | kittens! |
| 19:39 | rangi | ohhh sorry |
| 19:39 | time for some ghost chips | |
| 19:40 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v[…]annel_video_title | |
| 19:40 | wizzyrea | https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamai[…]_1787037682_n.jpg does that work? |
| 19:40 | you know I can't eat your ghost chips! | |
| 19:40 | rangi | check this one out |
| 19:40 | its the music vid | |
| 19:43 | also | |
| 19:43 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=Vq36Y-IN6fE | |
| 19:43 | wizzyrea | loool |
| 19:44 | cait | oh yes, ghost chips |
| 19:44 | yum | |
| 19:44 | rangi | Bought some 2 Minute Noodles... |
| 19:44 | Nekk Minut | |
| 19:44 | Nekk Minut | |
| 19:44 | Cooked :D | |
| 19:44 | cait | ? |
| 19:44 | wizzyrea | lol he stole the chips |
| 19:44 | rangi | its another random nz meme (the 2nd link) |
| 19:45 | wizzyrea | "these ghost chips are yum" |
| 19:45 | rangi | hehe |
| 19:45 | * cait | giggles |
| 19:46 | wizzyrea | lol I like how they start laughing at the end |
| 19:46 | rangi | yup |
| 19:46 | who could sing that, and stay serious ;) | |
| 19:47 | wizzyrea | not me |
| 19:47 | oleonard | Sounds like something out of Mighty Boosh |
| 19:48 | rangi | oh |
| 19:48 | you havent seen the original one eh oleonard ? | |
| 19:48 | its a road safety ad | |
| 19:48 | 2 secs ill get it | |
| 19:48 | oleonard | Yeah I have |
| 19:48 | rangi | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v[…]A&feature=feedlik |
| 19:48 | ah ok | |
| 19:49 | there's a kids one too | |
| 19:49 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1cdWnUebkg | |
| 19:53 | wizzyrea | is there a way to "cache" a search in Koha |
| 19:53 | ? | |
| 19:53 | let's say, for recent acquisitions | |
| 19:53 | rangi | not yet |
| 19:53 | but with memcached, could easily cache it | |
| 19:54 | but the problem is, availability changes | |
| 19:54 | wizzyrea | right |
| 19:54 | what I think I'm really wanting | |
| 19:54 | is a minimal result search | |
| 19:54 | no availability | |
| 19:55 | let me explain | |
| 19:55 | rangi | no |
| 19:55 | hehehe | |
| 19:55 | wizzyrea | *sob* |
| 19:55 | * rangi | giggles |
| 19:55 | wizzyrea | FINE |
| 19:55 | rangi | well |
| 19:55 | * wizzyrea | sulks |
| 19:55 | wizzyrea | ;) |
| 19:55 | rangi | i think this is actually heading where i am wanting to do some work before the academy |
| 19:56 | because the plan for that | |
| 19:56 | is extend reports | |
| 19:56 | to allow it to hand back, xml and/or json | |
| 19:56 | wizzyrea | oh I like where your head's at |
| 19:56 | rangi | originally for the staff dashboard |
| 19:56 | BUT | |
| 19:56 | why not make them available public, with an option | |
| 19:56 | and thus | |
| 19:56 | ajax the results into the opac | |
| 19:57 | * wizzyrea | begs for that |
| 19:57 | rangi | also, have an option |
| 19:57 | cache for 20 mins | |
| 19:57 | or 10 | |
| 19:57 | or 0 | |
| 19:57 | or 3 days | |
| 19:57 | wizzyrea | or hours |
| 19:57 | yea | |
| 19:57 | rangi | and then you just craft a report to return the JSON you want |
| 19:57 | wizzyrea | there is no reason to click a button to execute a n entire search |
| 19:57 | rangi | and then use jquery to make it display |
| 19:57 | wizzyrea | just to see the stuff that was added yesterday |
| 19:57 | rangi | yes |
| 19:58 | new books | |
| 19:58 | wahanui | new books is a tough one |
| 19:58 | rangi | not anymore its noT! |
| 19:58 | wizzyrea | hehe |
| 19:58 | love the idea that it's based on a report | |
| 19:58 | cait | I leave you alone for a minute... and I miss all that? |
| 19:58 | wizzyrea | that's a whole new section in the recipe book :) |
| 19:58 | rangi | yeah |
| 19:58 | webservices | |
| 19:58 | ftw | |
| 20:00 | cait | :) |
| 20:00 | rangi | and its not even that hard to do |
| 20:01 | so yeah, watch this space | |
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| 20:04 | * jcamins | watches |
| 20:05 | rangi | heh |
| 20:05 | wizzyrea | not *literally* silily |
| 20:05 | slily. | |
| 20:05 | rangi | i know how to do it already see |
| 20:05 | wizzyrea | silly. |
| 20:05 | rangi | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]i-bin/progress.pl |
| 20:05 | vs | |
| 20:05 | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]ress.pl?type=json | |
| 20:05 | kathryn joined #koha | |
| 20:06 | wizzyrea | ohsnap |
| 20:06 | * cait | waves at kathryn |
| 20:06 | rangi | to_json(\@lines); |
| 20:06 | its so hard! | |
| 20:06 | use JSON; | |
| 20:06 | kathryn | morning cait : ) |
| 20:06 | rangi | oh look, im finished |
| 20:06 | wizzyrea | oh snizzle. |
| 20:07 | rangi | well, i have to add caching and public option and write the public script, but yeah |
| 20:07 | almost :) | |
| 20:07 | cait | magic |
| 20:07 | :) | |
| 20:12 | kathryn | hey wizzyrea just to say hi to you too! |
| 20:12 | wizzyrea | hi! |
| 20:13 | kathryn | No news, just hi : ) |
| 20:28 | wizzyrea | lordie firefox 8 |
| 20:29 | rangi | *sigh* |
| 20:30 | cait | where are they moving things this time? |
| 20:32 | oleonard | the back button will be hidden under a pile of books next to your chair |
| 20:34 | cait | ah |
| 20:34 | yeah.... I can imagine that | |
| 20:35 | wizzyrea | anyone have any thoughts on the problem of losing printer settings after a firefox update? |
| 20:36 | I'm trying to think of a way to either script or generate the right settings so it's a one click thing for my libraries | |
| 20:36 | making them reconfigure every time is getting a bit old | |
| 20:36 | especially with the frequency of updates | |
| 20:36 | (yes, my creativity is failing me) | |
| 20:38 | libsysguy | well I'd say use Chrome |
| 20:38 | wizzyrea | can't do that |
| 20:38 | libsysguy | but printing doesn't work there |
| 20:38 | wizzyrea | VV that is why |
| 20:38 | ^^ | |
| 20:38 | libsysguy | which is a tragety |
| 20:38 | wizzyrea | well printing works |
| 20:38 | you just can't auto print silent | |
| 20:39 | libsysguy | I can't get it to work at all |
| 20:39 | also if anyone ever asks you if you want to try out dpsace just tell them no | |
| 20:40 | wizzyrea | https://code.google.com/p/chro[…]s/detail?id=31395 |
| 20:40 | so vote for that to get silent printing in chrome | |
| 20:41 | libsysguy | voted |
| 20:55 | rhcl | dspace works for me |
| 20:56 | libsysguy | its just a pain to install |
| 20:57 | why oh why tomcat | |
| 20:57 | rangi | i hate tomcat |
| 20:57 | with a passion | |
| 20:57 | rhcl | there are prebuild images |
| 20:58 | libsysguy | oh...I didn't know that...probably would have made my life easier not having to hunt for the java jdk |
| 21:00 | rhcl | http://www.jumpbox.com/app/dspace |
| 21:11 | oleonard | bye all |
| 21:21 | rhcl | @seen sekjal |
| 21:21 | huginn | rhcl: sekjal was last seen in #koha 2 hours, 50 minutes, and 30 seconds ago: * sekjal disppears |
| 21:21 | wizzyrea | he better be in bed. |
| 21:21 | rangi | heh |
| 21:21 | wizzyrea | it's like 3am in india. |
| 21:21 | or something | |
| 21:27 | rhcl | If I was in India I'd be out walking the streets. You can always sleep during presentations. |
| 21:27 | cait | conf is already over : |
| 21:27 | :( | |
| 21:38 | libsysguy | notices are going to drive me crazy |
| 21:38 | im just throwing that out there | |
| 21:39 | * cait | sends cookies |
| 21:39 | libsysguy | aww thanks cait :) |
| 21:41 | cait left #koha | |
| 21:53 | libsysguy | if I wanted to run a query of all patrons with fines over $10 and the item was still checked out do you think this would work |
| 21:53 | Select *, format(sum(amountoutstanding),2) as fine from accountlines where borrowernumber = 6744 group by itemnumber having fine > 0.00 and (Select count(*) from issues where accountlines.itemnumber = issues.itemnumber group by issues.itemnumber) > 0; | |
| 21:53 | wizzyrea | well, that particular query looks at a single patron |
| 21:54 | libsysguy | right |
| 21:54 | there is one above it that gets patrons with fines over $10 | |
| 21:54 | sorry | |
| 21:54 | the group was weird | |
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| 22:29 | wizzyrea | hm, one other thing that the proposed changes to updatedatabase would allow, is allowing optional database components |
| 22:30 | kinda like plugins. | |
| 22:30 | you wanna tack on a table for unique management? Ok! It's an option! | |
| 22:31 | or maybe I don't understand, which is always a possibility | |
| 22:40 | Guillaume left #koha | |
| 23:00 | rangi | it kinda would |
| 23:01 | but that could get messy fast | |
| 23:02 | wizzyrea | well yes |
| 23:02 | * wizzyrea | points to the strange and weird things that wordpress plugins do |
| 23:02 | wizzyrea | sometimes |
| 23:02 | but sometimes they do glorious things too. | |
| 23:04 | rangi | yup |
| 23:04 | it would have to be managed well | |
| 23:04 | personally | |
| 23:04 | i want to do more of the webservicey stuff (like above) | |
| 23:04 | wizzyrea | *nod* |
| 23:04 | rangi | and ppl can do their mad shit outside of koha :) |
| 23:05 | smaller and leaner, not bigger and bloated ;) | |
| 23:05 | wizzyrea | and people were doing that -- see the koha-scripts thing |
| 23:05 | rangi | yup |
| 23:05 | wizzyrea | anyway |
| 23:06 | i've gotta go get custard (well pudding really) the spud requires fish sticks and custard. (doctor who fans will get the reference) | |
| 23:08 | rangi | :-) |
| 23:08 | can you buy custard powder in the us? | |
| 23:08 | libsysguy | can anybody tell me what accountno is used for in accountlines |
| 23:09 | rangi | accountno + borrowernumber = key |
| 23:09 | libsysguy | ahh |
| 23:19 | Judit joined #koha | |
| 23:19 | Judit | hi |
| 23:29 | Small joined #koha | |
| 23:29 | Small | i need help starting zebra, or fixing it |
| 23:29 | all of my searches are broken, and it is installed | |
| 23:29 | They broke after upgrade | |
| 23:31 | Judit | did you try do rebulit zebra? |
| 23:32 | Small | yes, and it said command not found |
| 23:32 | the file is there | |
| 23:32 | but with the options, it errors command not found | |
| 23:32 | Judit | are you root? |
| 23:33 | Small | yes |
| 23:35 | Judit | i dont relly know, sorry |
| 23:35 | i would try to run the command as koha user | |
| 23:35 | Small | ok |
| 23:37 | Judit | which koha is it? |
| 23:38 | Small | 3.06 |
| 23:38 | i forget wich is my koha user | |
| 23:39 | i have lots of usernames, i forget wich one was for koha | |
| 23:39 | is there anyway to find out? | |
| 23:42 | ok | |
| 23:42 | i remember | |
| 23:42 | now when i reindex i get an error | |
| 23:42 | Judit | same error? |
| 23:42 | Small | BEGIN failed--complication aborted at rebuild_zebra.pl line 6. |
| 23:42 | nope, diffrent now | |
| 23:43 | :( | |
| 23:45 | do you know why? | |
| 23:45 | Judit | sorry Small, no i dont |
| 23:46 | Small | hmm |
| 23:47 | Anyone else/ | |
| 23:47 | Anyone else? | |
| 23:47 | Irma joined #koha | |
| 23:47 | Irma left #koha | |
| 23:48 | Small_2 joined #koha | |
| 23:48 | moodaepo | Small_2: http://koha.1045719.n5.nabble.[…]-a-td4654545.html |
| 23:48 | Small_2 | what is this> |
| 23:49 | moodaepo | As Judit mentioned you should be running it as the user that runs koha |
| 23:50 | Small_2 | ok |
| 23:50 | i sortof dont know the user though :/ | |
| 23:52 | * Small_2 | is using the koha live cd, he doesn't know the user |
| 23:57 | moodaepo | Small_2: Are you using the "Live CD (No Install Option)"? |
| 23:58 | Small_2 | yes |
| 23:58 | then i upgraded to 3.06 | |
| 23:58 | and my searches are broken |
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