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06:50 | mib_8pnrbv | is there anypne |
06:51 | we need help on KOHA ISBD format | |
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07:14 | cait | hm, seems the times I could sleep 12 hours and longer are over and I forgot to correct the clocks in here |
07:17 | magnuse | guten morgen cait! ;-) |
07:17 | cait | hehe |
07:17 | morgen :) | |
07:24 | alex_a | hi |
07:25 | cait | hi alex_a |
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07:45 | :) | |
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07:48 | marcelr | morning koha |
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07:52 | marcelr | hi cait |
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08:15 | hdl | hi all |
08:22 | cait | hi hdl |
08:23 | magnuse | bonjour france |
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08:44 | hdl | namaste India |
08:52 | mib_8pnrbv | can anyone hlp us |
08:52 | ? | |
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09:52 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
09:52 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 8.2°C (10:49 AM CET on November 03, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Windchill: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010.0 hPa (Steady). |
10:31 | jcamins | Hi cait. |
10:31 | wahanui | Hi cait. are you looking at the rwc final? |
10:31 | cait | hi jcamins |
10:31 | wahanui: it's over! | |
10:31 | wahanui | cait: excuse me? |
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11:55 | huginn | chris_n: The current temperature in Erwin, North Carolina is 1.0°C (7:35 AM EDT on November 03, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Pressure: 30.23 in 1024 hPa (Falling). |
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12:15 | reiveune | Excuse me, I'd like to try to reproduce the logo of Koha with Inkscape (with vector graphics, not bitmap). Someone could tell me what is the font used by the logo displayed on the OPAC (or two fonts used in the picture below : |
12:15 | http://lists.katipo.co.nz/pipe[…]ogo-2005-0001.jpg | |
12:15 | thanks | |
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12:34 | reiveune | Owen gave me a very good answer, thanks |
12:36 | oleonard | I'll say it here too if anyone is interested in the answer |
12:36 | There are a few logo files included in the Koha source. Look in misc/interface_customization | |
12:36 | I don't know the font, but you'll find Inkscape-compatible files there with vector versions of the logo | |
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12:49 | oleonard | Z39.50 search error "1: Permanent system error: Permanent system error: Bib-1" |
12:50 | On my server or theirs? If theirs, why the same error from 3 different sources? | |
12:50 | * oleonard | is suspicious |
12:53 | jwagner | oleonard, what targets? Common ones like LC? |
12:55 | oleonard | Ohiolink, Colorado Unified Catalog, Cuyahoga County Public Library |
12:57 | jwagner | Nope, don't have those set up somewhere where I could test them.... |
12:58 | * oleonard | wonders if we'll ever change the spelling of IndependantBranches |
12:59 | jwagner | I found one of my sites with a connection to Cuyahoga, and it's searching fine |
13:08 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7146] Update timestamps when deleting a biblio <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7146> |
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13:56 | libsysguy | morning #Koha |
13:56 | oleonard | I *really* want an option in Bugzilla to "expand search to closed bugs" on the search results page |
13:58 | In other Bugzilla news coming from my brain, I'm very glad we're putting bug numbers in commits now. It's disconcerting now to see commits without them | |
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13:59 | oleonard | commit 16fef8ba3e18c12347f35ff24a43c20d7ee53a8c added some error handling to cataloguing's z39.50 search but not to acquisitions' |
13:59 | libsysguy | ok so am I crazy or have there been no pushes to master since 3.6 |
14:00 | oleonard | The release manager is at KohaCon |
14:00 | libsysguy | no excuses :p |
14:01 | oleonard | Spoken like someone who has never been release manager :P |
14:01 | libsysguy | haha exactly |
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14:13 | oleonard | I really should count how many times I go to fix a bug and find another bug |
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14:35 | cait | reiveune: I think someone has done a svg already |
14:36 | reiveune: not sure who it was, perhaps mtj? | |
14:36 | reiveune | cait: thanks maybe you think at misc/interface_customization |
14:36 | cait | oleonard: if you use ALL in front of your search term it will include closed bugs |
14:37 | reiveune: no, I think of something else | |
14:37 | reiveune: I think there are no svgs in there? | |
14:37 | oleonard | Nice, thanks cait |
14:38 | cait | you are welcome |
14:39 | reiveune | cait: here we have a koha3-staff-client-logo.svg . I haven't open it but I think it's that I want |
14:39 | cait | ah ok |
14:39 | reiveune | :) |
14:39 | cait | I have it on my screen now |
14:39 | have to think where I saw the other version, something in grey | |
14:40 | reiveune | me to, but I haven't install Inkscape for the moment |
14:40 | maybe only this app can open this file | |
14:40 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7148] Add some error handling to Acquisitions' Z39.50 search to match Cataloging's <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7148> |
14:41 | cait | oleonard: you are my hero for working on acq :) |
14:42 | oleonard | That one was just coincidence. I was working on Bug 7147 and realized acq's z3950 search acted differently |
14:42 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7147 minor, P5, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Style Z39.50 search errors according to style patterns |
14:42 | * oleonard | had no choice but to fix it!! |
14:43 | cait | still |
14:43 | :) | |
14:44 | you didn't have to work on fixing the ohter things ;) | |
14:45 | now... someone removing this big spider from my kitchen sink would be nice | |
14:45 | * cait | shudders |
14:48 | oleonard | Not the kind of bug-fixing you like cait? |
14:49 | cait | no, not really |
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14:59 | wizzyrea | does the word "branch" look weird to anyone else when they see it a lot? |
15:00 | * chris_n | hands cait bug spray |
15:01 | * oleonard | takes back the bug spray and hands cait an empty jar and a postcard |
15:01 | oleonard | wizzyrea: branch branch branch branch branch branch branch branch branch branch branch branch branch branch branch |
15:01 | * chris_n | remembers a story about 5 pound spiders |
15:01 | * wizzyrea | pulls cait off into the corner and whispers secrets and giggles while the boys take care of the spider |
15:01 | chris_n | what'd you have for breakfast oleonard ;-) |
15:02 | cait | hehe |
15:03 | * cait | shares m&m s with wizzyrea |
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15:04 | * wizzyrea | giggles |
15:04 | chris_n | now a spider that ate mesquites might be more welcome around here |
15:04 | oops | |
15:04 | mosquitoes | |
15:04 | wizzyrea | thanks oleonard I think you fixed my weird perception of the word "branch" |
15:04 | chris_n | spell checker strikes again |
15:05 | oleonard | spiders that ate mesquite would cause no end of problems in the barbecue industry |
15:09 | * cait | puts the bowl of m&ms in the middle of #koha |
15:14 | gmcharlt | botsnacks *and* people-snacks! |
15:14 | cait++ | |
15:14 | cait | lol |
15:14 | wish there was really someone to eat them before i do | |
15:14 | weak moment at the supermarket | |
15:14 | trea | :D |
15:15 | nom nom bnom | |
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15:40 | Oak | hello miss cait :) |
15:40 | kia ora #koha | |
15:41 | cait | hello mr oak |
15:41 | Oak | :) |
15:48 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7123] barcode should be one word <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7123> |
15:48 | * oleonard | took some liberties with that one |
15:53 | found a second chocolate fish but Chore Wars made me leave it behind | |
15:54 | would have given it away if he could | |
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16:09 | reiveune | bye |
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16:11 | cait | oleonard: seems chocolate fish don't stack |
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16:52 | bg | hola koha peeps |
16:54 | oleonard | Hi bg |
16:55 | cait | hi bg :) |
16:55 | bg | heya oleonard and cait |
16:57 | magnuse | good afternoon, #koha |
17:02 | oleonard | Testing a possible fix for Bug 7135: http://screencast.com/t/0gBcTT6OKQ |
17:02 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7135 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , save button options |
17:03 | cait | that looks really nice! |
17:04 | * oleonard | hasn't tested browsers yet |
17:04 | cait | I have alibrary reporting they have problems with the pull down buttons |
17:04 | for a blind staff member | |
17:04 | have to look into that sometime :( | |
17:05 | bg | you should say I have to "feel" into that sometime |
17:06 | :( | |
17:06 | oh screencast is slow from India | |
17:06 | cait | bg: I think worst case is I will make it single links for them, but a solution that can go into koha would be nice |
17:06 | not sure how to test that though, will need the library helping | |
17:07 | bg | yeah more ADA the better - is the truth |
17:22 | nengard | got a question about the isbn match when adding records - is it matching on the 020 in the marc or on the isbn field in the biblioitems table? |
17:24 | cait | in cataloging or in staged import? |
17:24 | the staged imports use the zebra indexes, so 020 from the marc | |
17:24 | nengard | let's say in both |
17:25 | cait | I think the duplicate check in cataloging works different |
17:25 | rangi once read the code for me | |
17:25 | nengard | hmmmm |
17:25 | cait | it also checked the biblio level item type and some other things |
17:25 | nengard | okay - i might need sekjal to do some code reading for me to solve this one then |
17:27 | cait | sorry, I don't have the document here where I put it down :( |
17:31 | collum | ls |
17:31 | oops | |
17:35 | cait | hi collum |
17:35 | :) | |
17:36 | collum | hi cait :-) |
17:52 | cait | hey - it's GBSD! |
17:53 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]bug_squashing_day | |
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18:08 | oleonard | Oh no I should have submitted my patches a few hours later! |
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18:16 | oleonard | One of these days I hope we get a patch submitted or signed off on from someone actually on Kiritimati |
18:16 | magnuse | hehe, that would be cool |
18:17 | * oleonard | puts that on his list for when he's a fabulously wealthy wandering Koha dev |
18:17 | magnuse | yay |
18:19 | cait | :) |
18:20 | magnuse | wandering koha dev sounds cool! |
18:20 | * oleonard | should get into the business of installing Koha for eccentric billionaires. |
18:20 | libsysguy | isn't that druthb? |
18:21 | cait | hm, no |
18:21 | sounds more like jared | |
18:21 | libsysguy | oh haha |
18:21 | cait | jcamins_away jcamins_away jcamins_away |
18:21 | * libsysguy | should go nomad like jcamins |
18:22 | magnuse | druthb has the "wandering" part down, at least ;-) |
18:22 | cait | no, the nomad is druthb |
18:22 | magnuse | what she said |
18:22 | libsysguy | haha so can we have the best of both |
18:22 | wandering devel for excentric millionaires | |
18:22 | magnuse | yay! |
18:23 | now we're talking | |
18:23 | cait | lol |
18:23 | * cait | hands libsysguy and magnuse the last m&ms |
18:23 | cait | take them away from me |
18:23 | eat them! | |
18:23 | magnuse | yum, thanks! |
18:23 | will do! | |
18:23 | * libsysguy | is already chowing down on some subway cookies :) |
18:23 | takes m&m's anyway | |
18:23 | libsysguy | nom nom nom |
18:27 | magnuse | is chowing "Dumle", but that's probably a Norwegian specialty? chocolate-covered, soft caramels... |
18:28 | * magnuse | shares some Dumle with #koha |
18:28 | cait | ooh yummy |
18:28 | rangi | morning |
18:29 | wizzyrea | mornin :) |
18:30 | magnuse | kia ora rangi |
18:32 | * oleonard | is still getting used to seeing signoffs from rangi |
18:33 | rangi | heh |
18:33 | I can do that again now | |
18:34 | magnuse | rangi: since paul_p isn't here at the moment, is there some kind of kleenup after 3.6.0 that would be a good activity for gbsd (which is in progress as we speak...)? |
18:34 | cait | hi rangi :) |
18:34 | magnuse | like closing bugs or marking resolved or something |
18:34 | rangi | exactly that |
18:35 | magnuse | marking resolved *and* closing? |
18:35 | or just marking resolved fixed and then you do the closing? | |
18:37 | rangi | resolved fixed |
18:37 | and paul does the closing | |
18:37 | magnuse | ah, ok cool |
18:37 | rangi | im done, done I say |
18:37 | nengard | does the onloan field in the items table actually get populated properly? |
18:37 | rangi | now I just get to do what I want :) |
18:37 | magnuse | yay! |
18:38 | nengard | rangi you want to sign off on my db documentation patches :) I know you do!! :) |
18:38 | rangi | maybe after work :? |
18:38 | :) even | |
18:38 | magnuse | rangi: i just thought i remembered you said you had a list of bugs you would close when 3.6.0 was out the door... |
18:39 | rangi | thats all on the releasemanagement wiki |
18:39 | I probably did say that | |
18:39 | not gonna tho | |
18:40 | :? | |
18:40 | hmm | |
18:40 | my shift key on the phone is being weird | |
18:42 | magnuse | ok, just wondering ;-) |
18:45 | rangi | @wunder Wellington nz |
18:45 | huginn | rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 13.0°C (7:00 AM NZDT on November 04, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 29.53 in 1000 hPa (Steady). |
18:58 | oleonard | Not a peep from KohaCon today? |
18:58 | rangi | my stop brb |
18:59 | cait | oleonard: they were on the trip to mumbai today |
19:06 | magnuse | time to call it a day - have fun, #koha! |
19:07 | cait | bye magnuse |
19:09 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7135] save button options <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7135> |
19:09 | oleonard | ^ Looking for testers wrt browser compatibility |
19:16 | nengard | cait, i'm trying to edit a report of yours |
19:17 | cait | :) |
19:17 | nengard | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Library#Patrons_w.2F_Fines |
19:17 | I'm trying to limit it to patrons who are not expired | |
19:17 | my first attempt didn't work | |
19:17 | cait | ah ok |
19:17 | let me check | |
19:18 | nengard | figured it out!! |
19:18 | I was doing something silly :) | |
19:18 | sorry about that | |
19:21 | cait | no problem :) |
19:27 | rangi | back |
19:29 | oleonard | wizzyrea: Do you have EnhancedMessagingPreferences enabled in your system? |
19:29 | wizzyrea | yep |
19:31 | oleonard | Anything in particular you found you needed to customize in the messages? |
19:31 | I notice the "Advance Notice of Item Due" notice says "due soon." No due date? | |
19:31 | I guess there are issues with what information is available to various notices. | |
19:32 | cait | oleonard: I think there were some date formatting problems too |
19:32 | but some of them are working better now | |
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21:17 | wizzyrea | @later tell oleonard "due soon" has always annoyed me personally - I wish it would just tell me when it's due. |
21:17 | huginn | wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. |
21:20 | rangi | due in 2913 seconds! |
21:20 | wizzyrea | hehe |
21:31 | I guess it's not safe to assume that you would always want to update the patron category when you update a kid to an adult | |
21:32 | rangi | hmm? |
21:32 | cait | how else would you update? |
21:32 | wizzyrea | well there are types and there are categories |
21:32 | C, A for types | |
21:33 | arbitrary categories | |
21:33 | cait | ok |
21:33 | I think I would assume you will always want to go from a c to a a category | |
21:33 | wizzyrea | they're independent |
21:34 | * cait | can't follow |
21:34 | cait | if you do it now in staff |
21:34 | hit the update button | |
21:34 | wizzyrea | so you've got the hardcoded types, right? |
21:34 | cait | it will offer you all a categories |
21:34 | to choose one from, right? | |
21:34 | wizzyrea | this isn't in the web interface |
21:34 | cait | I know |
21:34 | wizzyrea | oh |
21:34 | so yea, ok... I think I'm right in the way I did it | |
21:35 | cait | I think updating the type does not make much sense |
21:35 | but updating the patron category | |
21:35 | wizzyrea | I was worried that it would be bad to assume that one wanted to update the type without updating the category |
21:35 | cait | hm |
21:35 | wizzyrea | I suppose you could have a library where they had a single category and the usual multiple types, but it's not terribly likely |
21:36 | cait | I think you wil always want to update the category and leave the configuration for categories and types alone |
21:36 | wizzyrea | well and geez |
21:36 | rangi | ? |
21:36 | cait | now you confused me liz :( |
21:36 | wizzyrea | never mind. |
21:36 | :) | |
21:36 | I think it's ok | |
21:37 | cait | ok |
21:37 | wizzyrea | this is what I came up with: http://pastebin.com/qjqEUrVk |
21:38 | because the existing j2a didn't deal with the categories | |
21:38 | only the type | |
21:38 | and was thus worthless | |
21:38 | well, less worthful | |
21:38 | rangi | *nod* |
21:39 | you need a license statement and copyright header fwiw :-) but full marks for the POD | |
21:39 | you get +10 more if you switch on use warnings | |
21:39 | * wizzyrea | can do both of those |
21:40 | rangi | yay :) |
21:40 | wizzyrea | that doesn't have the test mode bit that I want to put in |
21:41 | * rangi | looks at bug 7077 |
21:41 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7077 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Add system pref to control behavior of submitting empty barcode field on circulation page |
21:41 | rangi | ahh test modes are always awesome |
21:44 | oh and this | |
21:44 | wahanui | and this is probably the most crowded syspref tab |
21:44 | rangi | git config --global alias.sh 'show --word-diff=color' |
21:45 | then type git sh | |
21:45 | cait | test modes? :) |
21:45 | wizzyrea | the "show me what would happen if I ran this" mode |
21:45 | cait | ah |
21:45 | wizzyrea | "but don't actually do it" |
21:45 | cait | yes |
21:45 | and a mail with updated patrons :) | |
21:46 | wizzyrea | I actually thought of that >.> |
21:46 | it was on my list of things that would be nice to have | |
21:46 | rangi | owen gets back functionality we had in 1.2 but that went missing |
21:46 | oleonard++ | |
21:47 | * rangi | tests more |
21:47 | cait | oleonard++ indeed |
21:47 | he has been busy in acq too :) | |
21:48 | rangi | git config --global alias.lg "log --graph --pretty=format:'%Cred%h%Creset -%C(yellow)%d%Creset %s %Cgreen(%cr) %C(bold blue)<%an>%Creset' --abbrev-commit --date=relative" |
21:48 | checkt that out | |
21:48 | try a git lg | |
21:48 | cait | the git thing is nice |
21:49 | sh is for? | |
21:49 | rangi | show |
21:49 | rhcl | Well, LC says MARC and Z39-2 are dead? |
21:49 | cait | ah k |
21:49 | rangi | LoC says lots of things |
21:49 | :) | |
21:50 | but id hope that this will at least hasten their demise | |
21:53 | rhcl | demise of LC? |
21:53 | rangi | MARC |
21:53 | its been dead for 30 years | |
21:53 | rhcl | oh |
21:53 | rangi | doesnt stop ppl using it ;-) |
21:55 | talljoy | speaking of MARC. |
21:55 | * talljoy | ducks |
21:56 | talljoy | i'm looking for authority records in the staff client and none are appearing like expected even after authorities are reindexed |
21:56 | cait | how did you import them? an dhow are they not appearing as expected? |
21:56 | rangi | if you change it search headings do they? |
21:57 | talljoy | they appear when i click on 'search main heading' but not if i search on the default "search authorities' |
21:58 | how did i import....let me think....i believe it was through the command line. | |
21:58 | rangi | yeah, id noticed that before talljoy |
21:58 | i think its a bug | |
21:58 | something changed recent ish | |
21:58 | talljoy | phew. it's not me then. |
21:58 | cait | hmmm |
21:58 | I tested something about authority searching and the default thing | |
21:58 | perhaps I can find the bug | |
22:02 | ah, I was thinking about bug 5910 | |
22:02 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5910 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Authorities : allow users to search on all auth types |
22:04 | talljoy | ok. i need to see what version of koha i am looking at here. |
22:07 | authorities are going to be the death of me. | |
22:08 | cait | talljoy: this bug is not in koha - so perhaps only confusing |
22:09 | talljoy | i get that 'search main heading' will pull up my personal name authority records, but why does the 'search authorities' option return no results. |
22:09 | that seems bug-like | |
22:11 | rangi | yes, yes it does |
22:12 | talljoy | lol. I guess I'll enter a bug, but I don't want any closer association with MARC authority records. |
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22:34 | rangi | sup trea |
22:34 | trea | hi rangi |
22:35 | how's welly today? | |
22:35 | rangi | @wunder wellington nz |
22:35 | huginn | rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 15.0°C (11:00 AM NZDT on November 04, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 29.53 in 1000 hPa (Falling). |
22:35 | rangi | and its more like 23 in here |
22:36 | cos the aircon isnt working | |
22:38 | ibeardslee | rangi: on L7? |
22:38 | rangi | yeah |
22:38 | ibeardslee | does Pauline know? |
22:38 | rangi | yes |
22:38 | ibeardslee | cool .. .. .. ;) |
22:38 | rangi | apparently ppl are coming to look |
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22:52 | cait | bye #koha :) |
22:52 | rangi | cya cait |
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23:17 | rangi | wizzyrea: you got a sec? |
23:17 | bug 7128 ... you might like to look at my follow up on there for gbsd :) | |
23:17 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7128 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, NEW , logged in and logged out states of opac-main.tt are hard to style |
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