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| 00:02 | rangi | paulnz: ill make it work |
| 00:05 | paulnz | rangi - excellent |
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| 00:38 | bg | memcached? |
| 00:40 | eythian | wrongwindow.com? |
| 00:43 | bg | heh no - |
| 00:44 | I was seeing in wahanui had anything for memcached ;) | |
| 00:44 | eythian | ah right :) |
| 00:59 | slef | the answer? |
| 00:59 | wahanui | the answer is always go back to sleep |
| 01:00 | slef | ok wahanui! |
| 01:00 | wahanui | i am a bot |
| 01:00 | slef | i am not |
| 01:05 | cait | lol |
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| 02:12 | eythian | http://www.nzonscreen.com/title/new-zild-2005 |
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| 02:24 | wizzyrea | this is educational. |
| 02:25 | rangi | heh |
| 02:28 | eythian | call it research :) |
| 02:28 | wizzyrea | it totally is. |
| 02:28 | the one that still gets me | |
| 02:28 | is aeroplane | |
| 02:28 | well more like aeroplin | |
| 02:28 | to my ears | |
| 02:29 | eythian | you only really need one vowel. |
| 02:30 | ibeardslee | welsh? |
| 02:31 | wizzyrea | "strangled it's first vowel" |
| 02:31 | it's a quote, don't be mad. | |
| 02:31 | :) | |
| 02:31 | eythian | heh |
| 02:36 | rangi | paulnz: recommendations are building now |
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| 02:58 | paulnz | nice one rangi |
| 03:02 | did you get hold of anyone at vic? | |
| 03:02 | rangi | not yet, i emailed dont have a reply yet, will chase up in the morning with a phone call |
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| 03:49 | kmkale | Namaskaar #koha |
| 03:55 | rangi aroound? | |
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| 05:11 | eythian | http://imgur.com/HeCr1 |
| 05:21 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7090] Add "AllowItemsOnHandCheckout" syspref to allow issue to the patron regardless of hold status <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7090> |
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| 06:16 | magnuse | eythian: cool picture! |
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| 06:17 | alex_a | hi |
| 06:19 | magnuse | bonjour |
| 06:19 | wahanui | que tal, magnuse |
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| 06:42 | reiveune1 | hello |
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| 07:03 | asaurat | hi ! |
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| 08:13 | cait | hi #koha |
| 08:27 | magnuse | kia ora cait |
| 08:28 | cait | good morning magnuse :) |
| 08:28 | * magnuse | should have been at ili in london today... next year maybe? |
| 08:32 | cait | hm what is ili? |
| 08:34 | magnuse | http://www.internet-librarian.com/2011/ |
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| 08:44 | druthb | o/ |
| 08:44 | kmkale | heya druthb |
| 08:44 | when are you starting? | |
| 08:44 | druthb | hi, kmkale. we leave tomorrow morning, our time. |
| 08:45 | Can you do me a big favor right quick? | |
| 08:45 | kmkale | reaching? |
| 08:45 | sure | |
| 08:45 | druthb | Friday evening, Mumbai time. :) |
| 08:45 | Try to load http://www.kathleenmscanlon.com/galleries.html.... does it work? | |
| 08:45 | http://www.kathleenmscanlon.com/galleries.html | |
| 08:45 | magnuse | \o |
| 08:45 | druthb | (without all the extra dots..) |
| 08:45 | kmkale | hehyes loads |
| 08:45 | druthb | Hi, Magnus! |
| 08:45 | kmkale | Namaaste magnuse |
| 08:46 | magnuse | namaskar kmkale |
| 08:46 | druthb: works for me | |
| 08:46 | kmkale | druthb: friday is tomorrow. Planning to meet jo and brooke at Vihangs in the evening. What time are you likely to reach? |
| 08:47 | druthb | thanx oodles magnus and kmkale. it's 0500 here...bed. We'll be there after drinks at vihangs--about 8 or 9, iirc... |
| 08:47 | but I'm rooming with Jo and Brooke anyway. :D | |
| 08:47 | kmkale | druthb: cool. see ya soon :) |
| 08:48 | i'll have to split early as its Baubeej tomorrow. Diner at sisters :) | |
| 08:49 | druthb: on the above link I am getting image not loaded in 30 seconds bunch of such messages | |
| 08:49 | druthb | I'm not surprised...you're a long way from the server. I'll take a look at some optimizes in the morning. |
| 08:50 | Must sleep. | |
| 09:08 | magnuse | cait++ |
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| 10:41 | cait | bye all |
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| 12:27 | oleonard | So what was it I was going to do when I got to work? I was thinking about it three hours ago... |
| 12:28 | jcamins_away | oleonard: meetings? |
| 12:28 | wahanui | meetings are getting longish, and I think that's happening from folks getting slammed at work. Pop in, talk to each other more. Should make for shorter meetings and better communication. |
| 12:29 | oleonard | No meetings. I'm all alone this morning in the library's 27th floor executive suite. |
| 12:30 | paul_p | oleonard: 27th floor ? In Athens ? really ? The building is new then ;-) |
| 12:31 | * Danielle_ | shudders, remembering the weekly status meeting at $job[-1] |
| 12:31 | oleonard | I might be exaggerating just a little bit. |
| 12:32 | * jcamins_away | adds "executive suite" to his master plan. |
| 12:33 | jcamins_away | Not on the twenty-seventh floor, though... I don't like heights. |
| 12:37 | magnuse | wahanui: forget meetings |
| 12:37 | wahanui | magnuse: I forgot meetings |
| 12:38 | oleonard | https://twitter.com/#!/oleonar[…]498678272/photo/1 |
| 12:40 | * magnuse | tries to figure out what oleonard is reading |
| 12:40 | oleonard | http://search.myacpl.org/cgi-b[…]blionumber=170031 |
| 12:41 | magnuse | yay ;-) |
| 12:42 | oleonard | Referencing rather than straight-up reading (although straight-up reading would do me better) |
| 12:44 | You guys are in that picture too, can you tell? | |
| 12:45 | magnuse | well, there's a koha staff screen |
| 12:45 | and maybe irc too? | |
| 12:46 | oleonard | That's my Chatzilla window on the right |
| 12:46 | magnuse | yay |
| 12:46 | but what's that dark grey thingy with the buttons on the far left? | |
| 12:47 | oleonard | In the olden days we used to call that a phone. |
| 12:47 | magnuse | ah |
| 12:48 | some sort of non-mobile? ;-) | |
| 12:48 | oleonard | The kind of phone where I have to read the instructions to do anything more complicated than a call. |
| 12:49 | magnuse | hehe |
| 12:49 | the gui leaves something to be desired, then? | |
| 12:50 | oleonard | Could be worse: http://www.nasm.si.edu/imageDe[…].cfm?imageID=1654 |
| 12:50 | magnuse | tee hee |
| 12:51 | oleonard | ^^ That's what acquisitions is going to look like when cait and I get done with it ;) |
| 12:52 | magnuse | lol |
| 12:52 | should be a long term goal for the whole intranet | |
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| 12:55 | fabio_t | Hi people! :) |
| 13:00 | oleonard | Hi fabio_t |
| 13:00 | fabio_t | I noticed that latest Koha versions offer .deb packages too. Is there any reason to prefer Git installation and upgrade over the .deb packaging ones for a production server (in a non-developer point of view)? |
| 13:01 | magnuse | fabio_t: i'd say no, go with the packages |
| 13:01 | fabio_t | hi there oleonard |
| 13:01 | thank you magnuse | |
| 13:01 | I'm not that familiar with Git | |
| 13:02 | that would be easier for us. | |
| 13:02 | (packages) | |
| 13:02 | magnuse | you only need git if you are going to do development, or apply patches yourself |
| 13:02 | to run "straight koha" the packages are handy | |
| 13:03 | fabio_t | Do i need Git to apply local patches too? |
| 13:03 | magnuse | hm, not 100% sure about the corrdct answer to that one - it certainly makes it easier, i think |
| 13:04 | anyone else got an opinion on that? | |
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| 13:06 | jcamins_away | fabio_t: yes, you need to use git if you are doing any development. |
| 13:06 | fabio_t: but packages are *much* easier to use. | |
| 13:06 | jcamins | fabio_t: as a general rule, though, I'd recommend against hot-patching your production system anyway. |
| 13:07 | fabio_t | thank you jcamins |
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| 13:07 | jcamins | Did I just make up the term "hot-patching"? It sounded good in my head, but doesn't look quite right when written. |
| 13:07 | magnuse | you can also build your own packages - that way you can run off packages but also incorporate patches |
| 13:07 | * jcamins | does that |
| 13:08 | magnuse | debian/build-git-snapshot makes it quite easy to make packages |
| 13:08 | jcamins | One warning about building your own packages, though: some people have trouble with it. |
| 13:08 | * magnuse | does it too |
| 13:08 | fabio_t | if I will develop something, moreover, i'd be happy to share with the community |
| 13:08 | magnuse | fabio_t++ |
| 13:08 | fabio_t | right magnuse, thanks |
| 13:10 | nengard | jcamins!! need your help :) |
| 13:10 | jcamins | fabio_t: here's what I'd recommend: use packages, but have a git install on a development system for development. If you make any changes you need for production, roll your own package, and use that. |
| 13:10 | nengard: uh-oh. | |
| 13:10 | nengard | hehe |
| 13:10 | jcamins | nengard: how can I help? |
| 13:10 | nengard | easy peasy :) |
| 13:10 | i'm writing the analytics part of the manual | |
| 13:10 | and linda mentioned there is a delink option | |
| 13:10 | but i can't find it | |
| 13:10 | also the used in column never fills in for me | |
| 13:11 | are these bugs or am i missing a step? | |
| 13:11 | jcamins | Lemme check on Master. |
| 13:11 | nengard | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]7d780d10b1349e908 |
| 13:11 | for what i wrote so far | |
| 13:12 | fabio_t | thank you guys - I love Koha, and the whole community is great |
| 13:12 | see you, I have to leave | |
| 13:12 | jcamins | One correction- "catalog" not "catlaog". ;) |
| 13:12 | magnuse | see you fabio_t |
| 13:12 | nengard | found the delink!! |
| 13:12 | thanks for finding the typo | |
| 13:13 | jcamins | Good! |
| 13:13 | nengard | but not sure about the used in column |
| 13:13 | jcamins | But used in still isn't working for you? |
| 13:13 | nengard | right |
| 13:13 | keep in mind i might be missing a step | |
| 13:15 | jcamins | Checking out master now. |
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| 13:16 | jcamins | We're still on 3.6 for Master? Huh. Hadn't realized that. |
| 13:18 | nengard: additional change: I fixed the issue with the 773 indicator. | |
| 13:18 | That is a problem only for MDAH. | |
| 13:19 | nengard | oh! good stuff |
| 13:19 | jcamins | (retrospective problem, not going forward, once they update to 3.6) |
| 13:19 | nengard | two more pushes: http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ocs.git;a=summary |
| 13:20 | * jcamins | is waiting for Zebra to reindex. |
| 13:20 | jcamins | Hm. I'm not seeing the Used in. |
| 13:21 | Not seeing the record I just created, either... | |
| 13:21 | Oh, cron's disabled. | |
| 13:23 | I wonder why I did that. | |
| 13:24 | * chris_n | wonders what is is about "I don't provide individualized support" that some folks don't seem to understand :P |
| 13:24 | jcamins | "Used in" is working for me. |
| 13:24 | It just says things like "1 analytics" though. No titles. | |
| 13:25 | What was I doing on this VM? | |
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| 13:25 | jcamins | (that was not a rhetorical question, I'm hoping I mentioned it) |
| 13:26 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6818] acquisitions basket groups could use some design work <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6818> |
| 13:30 | jcamins | chris_n: why do people even come up with the idea of contacting you directly? |
| 13:30 | nengard: you know that the "Used in" column is filled in only for the host record, right? | |
| 13:30 | nengard | jcamins I don't see used in 1 analytics ? is ther esomething i need to do to my record to make that happen? some magic? |
| 13:30 | yes | |
| 13:30 | but it's not filled in on anything for me | |
| 13:30 | let me go rebuild the zebra and try one more time | |
| 13:30 | jcamins | nengard: once I reindexed, it worked properly. |
| 13:30 | nengard | is there another cron i need? |
| 13:30 | jcamins | Wait... I have a guess. |
| 13:30 | There shouldn't be. | |
| 13:31 | What framework are you using? | |
| 13:31 | * oleonard | writes "contact chris_n for KOHA! help" in every public restroom |
| 13:31 | chris_n | jcamins: perhaps they grab names, etc. from the home page of the website or some such |
| 13:31 | LOL | |
| 13:31 | nengard | i started with the fast add framework and then when i did the link it changed the framework to default |
| 13:31 | jcamins | "KOHA!" help, no less. :) |
| 13:32 | magnuse | lol |
| 13:32 | jcamins | Your fast add framework doesn't have 773$0 and 773$9. |
| 13:32 | * chris_n | now knows where all of the spam is coming from ;-) |
| 13:32 | jcamins | That's one addition we need to the manual: whatever framework you use for analytics *must* have 773$9 and 773$0 defined. |
| 13:33 | nengard | jcamins but when i edited it it changed to default framework |
| 13:33 | but it is possible i don't have 773 in that one | |
| 13:33 | so let me fix | |
| 13:33 | jcamins | I'm guessing the problem is Javascript. |
| 13:34 | Where if you start out with one, and it switches to the other, it still fails to populate the 773$0 and 773$9. | |
| 13:34 | (though I can't recreate the problem) | |
| 13:35 | nengard | grrr |
| 13:35 | will try again after i get bg coffee :) | |
| 13:37 | jcamins | Errr... isn't it a bit late for bg to be hanging around? |
| 13:37 | Shouldn't he be over Europe now? | |
| 13:41 | sekjal | jcamins: our flight leaves at 8:30 tonight |
| 13:41 | jcamins | sekjal: oh, Shari and I thought you were leaving at 8:30 yesterday. |
| 13:41 | Whoops. | |
| 13:41 | sekjal | thankfully, no. then I'd be REALLY behind |
| 13:43 | * jcamins | pushes his master plan to nominate sekjal, bg, and druthb for a whole bunch of jobs back by one day. ;) |
| 13:45 | * oleonard | hasn't traveled internationally for about 10 years, but still has anxiety dreams about not being ready for his flight |
| 13:46 | jcamins | @later tell druthb The front page of your blog didn't update. Don't forget to rsync the whole website, and not just the one new post. |
| 13:46 | huginn | jcamins: The operation succeeded. |
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| 14:10 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7105] Bad sql request in GetSubscriptions <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7105> |
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| 14:44 | libsysguy | hey does anybody know when druthb will be back around? |
| 14:44 | magnus_afk | she's in/on her way to india - hard to tell... |
| 14:44 | libsysguy | ohhh |
| 14:45 | we can all play where in the world is druthb | |
| 14:45 | magnus_afk | heh |
| 14:45 | jcamins | libsysguy: Newark area. :P |
| 14:45 | * jcamins | wins. |
| 14:45 | libsysguy | dang it jcamins |
| 14:45 | magnus_afk | that was quick |
| 14:45 | libsysguy | jcamins has druthb bugged |
| 14:46 | magnus_afk | hehe |
| 14:46 | Danielle_ | Or in the circle of trust. >.> |
| 14:47 | * jcamins | tries to figure out how much equity he has in his closely-held LLC, and fails utterly. |
| 14:48 | Danielle_ | Forensic Accountant time? ;) |
| 14:49 | * chris_n | launches another explanatory missive, but feels the issue is becoming over-complicated :-( |
| 14:50 | jcamins | Danielle_: more like "explain to dummy over there what he's doing wrong." ;) |
| 14:51 | wizzyrea | i had lots of dreams last year about missing my plane to NZ |
| 14:56 | rhcl_away | ? |
| 14:56 | oleonard | wizzyrea's on a 1-hour delay rhcl_away. |
| 14:57 | wizzyrea | that |
| 15:00 | rhcl_away | Well, that's why she missed her plane then. |
| 15:01 | wizzyrea | meh |
| 15:06 | libsysguy | report question |
| 15:07 | if i wanted to doa dropdown in a report to see all the available funds | |
| 15:07 | how would i format the <<>> bit | |
| 15:07 | wizzyrea | the drop downs are dependent on authorized values |
| 15:07 | and only some of them work, iirc | |
| 15:08 | libsysguy | is there a way to see the authorized values? |
| 15:08 | wizzyrea | administration -> Authorized Values |
| 15:08 | but I think only itype, ccode work | |
| 15:08 | it's in the manual | |
| 15:08 | which ones | |
| 15:08 | possibly in the online help too | |
| 15:09 | afk | |
| 15:09 | libsysguy | so if i created a new one…it wouldn't work? |
| 15:09 | like a new category | |
| 15:12 | rhcl | A mildly interesting project to follow: http://orsoc.se/openrisc1200-platform-2/ |
| 15:12 | They chat on freenode at #opencores | |
| 15:14 | nengard | libsysguy, drthb is on her way to my house actually |
| 15:14 | libsysguy | oh really? |
| 15:14 | nengard | she'll be around in a few hours for a bit before going to the airport or Inda |
| 15:14 | India | |
| 15:15 | bg is here -druthb, sekjal and JesseM are on their way :) | |
| 15:15 | gonna have a mini bywater gathering at my house | |
| 15:15 | libsysguy | ok cool…well if she feels up to it I have a data question for her…otherwise it can wait |
| 15:15 | ohh fun…is there dip and chips? | |
| 15:15 | jcamins | Wow, she can go to India without going to the airport? Lucky! |
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| 15:16 | libsysguy | nengard did you see my question about the reports? |
| 15:17 | nengard | no i did not |
| 15:17 | libsysguy | nengard: if i wanted to doa dropdown in a report to see all the available funds |
| 15:17 | how would i format the <<>> bit | |
| 15:17 | nengard | not possible ? |
| 15:17 | funds is not a runtime parameter | |
| 15:17 | libsysguy | oh |
| 15:17 | nengard | i think i have a bug for it |
| 15:17 | libsysguy | gotcha |
| 15:18 | nengard | bug 6961 |
| 15:18 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6961 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , runtime parameter for fund codes |
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| 15:19 | cait | hi koha |
| 15:19 | libsysguy | thanks nengard++ |
| 15:19 | rhcl | hi cait |
| 15:19 | nengard | no prob |
| 15:19 | hi cait | |
| 15:19 | cait | hi rhcl, libsysguy and nengard :) |
| 15:19 | libsysguy | hi cait :) |
| 15:20 | magnus_afk | kia ora cait |
| 15:20 | @seen rangi | |
| 15:20 | huginn | magnus_afk: rangi was last seen in #koha 12 hours, 17 minutes, and 38 seconds ago: <rangi> not yet, i emailed dont have a reply yet, will chase up in the morning with a phone call |
| 15:21 | cait | hi magnus_afk :) |
| 15:23 | reiveune1 | bye |
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| 15:46 | nengard | jcamins - two bugs reported related to what I saw in analytics tests - it might be just me, but hopefully someone can figure them out |
| 15:46 | bug 7107 and bug 7106 | |
| 15:46 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7107 major, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , 'used in' column on analytics not populating |
| 15:46 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7106 major, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW , analytics links broken | |
| 15:48 | jcamins | I will take a look if I can. |
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| 15:56 | nengard | releast notes question for anyone who can answer - it says "New permission for overdues report" - but where is it? |
| 16:02 | oleonard | nengard: http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5876 |
| 16:02 | huginn | 04Bug 5876: enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, RESOLVED FIXED, New permission for overdues report |
| 16:02 | oleonard | Not a fix for Bug 6898 as you probably hoped |
| 16:02 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6898 major, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , circulation librarians can't run overdues without reports permissions |
| 16:03 | nengard | so it's not a new permission |
| 16:03 | an existing permission | |
| 16:03 | oleonard | A misleading bug title becomes a misleading release notes item. |
| 16:08 | nengard | :) |
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| 16:09 | * Oak | waves |
| 16:13 | trea | o/ |
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| 16:32 | oleonard | Hi cait |
| 16:33 | cait | hi oleonard |
| 16:33 | :) | |
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| 16:53 | NCARLibrary | Hey there people! |
| 16:54 | Might anyone be interested in hearing my Stats question? | |
| 16:56 | oleonard | We won't know until you ask |
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| 17:08 | Oak | true story |
| 17:15 | NCARLibrary | Circ Statistics... |
| 17:15 | I get no data in the body of the results...only totals. | |
| 17:21 | Could it be a bug? Or just user error? | |
| 17:25 | Sorry for the delayed question...people just walk right up to you and start talking when you work at a library. | |
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| 17:33 | cait | NCARLibrary: using the statistic wizard? |
| 17:34 | NCARLibrary | yes, the wizard |
| 17:34 | cait | hm |
| 17:35 | I think you have to select one field for column and one for row | |
| 17:35 | NCARLibrary | i get all my totals, along bottom and down the right side |
| 17:35 | cait | what are you trying to search for? |
| 17:35 | NCARLibrary | i selected patron category for row |
| 17:36 | and shelving loc as column | |
| 17:36 | cait | hm |
| 17:36 | NCARLibrary | i'm just trying to get circ stats for various patron categories at various shelving locations |
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| 17:37 | NCARLibrary | might be some issue with my local instance that Galen needs to tweak, I suppose. |
| 17:37 | cait | perhaps you can find a good report to do that in the reports library? |
| 17:37 | my database here is almost empty, so I get no results at all :( | |
| 17:37 | NCARLibrary | yeah, i could work around with a report |
| 17:38 | time for lunch. i'll shoot Galen an email. | |
| 17:38 | thanks | |
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| 17:42 | * oleonard | wonders what version NCARLibrary is on |
| 17:42 | remembers the problems we had with reports output right after the T:T switch | |
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| 17:45 | Oak | @later tell Brooke hi, watch "Frequently Asked Questions About Time Travel" www.imdb.com/title/tt0910554/ very good |
| 17:45 | huginn | Oak: The operation succeeded. |
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| 18:33 | rangi | morning |
| 18:33 | bg | morning dude |
| 18:33 | ebegin | hello all! Long time no talk, see, etc ;) |
| 18:33 | bg | heya ebegin |
| 18:33 | rangi | heya ebegin |
| 18:33 | bg: whens the flight? | |
| 18:34 | @wunder wellington nz | |
| 18:34 | huginn | rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 11.0°C (7:00 AM NZDT on October 28, 2011). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026 hPa (Steady). |
| 18:34 | ebegin | @wunder montreal, canada |
| 18:34 | huginn | ebegin: The current temperature in Montreal / Dorval International, Que, Quebec is 4.0°C (2:00 PM EDT on October 27, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 36%. Dew Point: -5.0°C. Pressure: 29.84 in 1010 hPa (Falling). |
| 18:35 | rangi | ebegin: I have some beer from quebec in my fridge |
| 18:35 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7108] opaclanguagesdisplay: Lists of "Similar" languages break display across multiple lines <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7108> |
| 18:36 | rangi | got given it as a gift at the conference last week |
| 18:38 | oleonard | Thank goodness beer can go through customs |
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| 18:38 | rangi | yep I took some with me, brought some back |
| 18:39 | no drama either way | |
| 18:39 | its just food/plants we dont let in | |
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| 18:39 | jcamins | Drinks made of plants are good? |
| 18:39 | :) | |
| 18:40 | wizzyrea | oh, is this real |
| 18:40 | cait | they let my chocolate in too :) |
| 18:40 | wizzyrea | do I really have internet? |
| 18:40 | I do! | |
| 18:40 | cait | only had to show it and they even talked german with me :) |
| 18:40 | hi wizzyrea :) | |
| 18:40 | wizzyrea | lordie! |
| 18:41 | rangi | jcamins: boiled plants are ok |
| 18:41 | wizzyrea | I guess the backbone for our local internet provider went completely down |
| 18:41 | rangi | :) |
| 18:41 | ouch | |
| 18:41 | wizzyrea | guess they'll be looking at their redundancy strategies :P |
| 18:41 | rangi | I love how corporates make the internet less robust |
| 18:41 | the market .... its full of shit | |
| 18:41 | wizzyrea | even though they supposedly have 3 backbone providers? |
| 18:42 | * wizzyrea | grumbles |
| 18:42 | wizzyrea | but I'm happy it's back up |
| 18:43 | rangi | :) |
| 18:46 | http://m.flickr.com/#/photos/ranginui/6285847392/ | |
| 18:46 | wizzyrea | lol what is he doing? |
| 18:46 | rangi | lil man has reflux still, so he has a computer attached to him |
| 18:46 | wizzyrea | OH |
| 18:46 | poor lil guy | |
| 18:47 | rangi | measuring ph levels |
| 18:47 | he doesn't mind | |
| 18:47 | its his packpack | |
| 18:47 | wizzyrea | awwww |
| 18:47 | rangi | :) |
| 18:47 | comes out in 5 hours | |
| 18:47 | wizzyrea | (well, reflux sucks so, still poor guy about that bit) |
| 18:47 | rangi | then they should know whats going on |
| 18:47 | yeah | |
| 18:48 | tonsils and adanoids coming out | |
| 18:48 | on the 16th | |
| 18:48 | wizzyrea | oh zounds! |
| 18:48 | trea | ya :-/ |
| 18:48 | rangi | lucky he's a tough lil bugger |
| 18:48 | wizzyrea | *nod* |
| 18:49 | he looks cheery enough in that pic :) | |
| 18:49 | rangi | yep |
| 18:49 | nothing seems to worry him much | |
| 18:50 | but I think he will be a lot happier with less interrupted sleep | |
| 18:50 | the only problem now is he thinks he is dora | |
| 18:50 | and keeps trying to get stuff out of his backpack | |
| 18:51 | wizzyrea | hehe |
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| 18:52 | bg | rangi: flight is in 5 hours |
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| 18:52 | bg | we're still holding up at nengard house |
| 18:52 | rangi | so laurel will be happy when it comes out |
| 18:52 | its a full on job watching his hands | |
| 18:52 | ahh cool | |
| 18:54 | lol | |
| 18:55 | lead news item today | |
| 18:55 | "pupils punished for going to parade" | |
| 18:55 | oh the problems we have | |
| 18:56 | oleonard | I've discovered a problem in the en-GB and en-NZ translations |
| 18:57 | rangi | oh? |
| 18:57 | oleonard | Looks like escaping backslashes in JavaScript are getting escaped again |
| 18:57 | _('Are you sure you want to renew this member\\'s registration?') | |
| 18:57 | rangi | ah thats possible |
| 18:57 | oleonard | should be |
| 18:57 | _('Are you sure you want to renew this member\'s registration?') | |
| 18:58 | rangi | right and all the other languages dont have retarded 's |
| 18:58 | so doesn't get them | |
| 18:58 | sounds like. po file is wrong | |
| 18:59 | ill take a look after the next 3 conferences :) | |
| 18:59 | oleonard | File a bug? |
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| 19:02 | maximep | just saw the same in fr-FR. Had \\t instead of \t |
| 19:03 | cait | pootle doesn't like those |
| 19:03 | it will always make them wrong | |
| 19:04 | best is to edit the file directly | |
| 19:04 | that's the reason I removed all \n from the translations | |
| 19:04 | or better, make it ".... ' " | |
| 19:05 | ebegin | Speaking of pootle, is there a way to replace a complete file with the one I'm uploading ? |
| 19:05 | oleonard | Bug 7109, for what it's worth. Sounds like it's really a template-processing bug that needs a more comprehensive fix. |
| 19:05 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7109 major, P5, ---, frederic, NEW , Error in en-GB and en-NZ templates causes JavaScript errors |
| 19:06 | maximep | the en template should really just put the string in " " instead of escaping |
| 19:07 | spent the last 3 hours fixing translation bugs :/ | |
| 19:08 | oleonard | maximep: That might work for \t, but not for apostrophes in english sentences |
| 19:08 | maximep | huh, why wouldn't it |
| 19:09 | french has way more ' than english, so always fixing those | |
| 19:09 | oleonard | Maybe I misunderstand you, but wouldn't that break up the string and make translation more difficult? |
| 19:09 | maximep | instead of _('Are you sure you want to renew this patron\'s registration?') |
| 19:09 | _("Are you sure you want to renew this patron's registration?") | |
| 19:10 | cait | ebegin: you can overwrite but need a permission for that - ask fredericd |
| 19:10 | oleonard | maximep: I see. Does that work with the translation tool? |
| 19:10 | ebegin | cait, thanks. it seems that he is away atm |
| 19:11 | rangi | oleonard: i think it does |
| 19:11 | cait | you can add as suggestion, merge and overwrite I think - 3 options |
| 19:11 | rangi | oleonard: but id have to try to be sure |
| 19:11 | maximep | oleonard: yes |
| 19:12 | cait | oleonard: it does, the other problem is, that normally I would use "" for quiting things in German |
| 19:12 | and I can't use those | |
| 19:12 | both ways it's annoying sometimes | |
| 19:13 | but consistency would be nice | |
| 19:13 | hm quoting I mean | |
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| 19:13 | maximep | pretty sure " is used in most places |
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| 19:25 | oleonard | So switching from one quote to another doesn't fix the problem. Can we fix the double-\ problem? |
| 19:26 | maximep | yeah that was jsut a workaround for a real bug |
| 19:27 | rangi | oleonard: we have to find where the \\ are being added, is pootle doing it, or is the translation tools doing it |
| 19:31 | * oleonard | is finding that the language-chooser in the staff client doesn't reflect the current language choice |
| 19:32 | oleonard | Bugs are scaring out bugs |
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| 20:06 | oleonard | Why do we have biblio.copyrightdate and biblioitems.publicationyear? |
| 20:07 | rangi | cos in the olden days |
| 20:07 | you had one biblio many biblioitems | |
| 20:07 | copyright date didnt change, the publication one did | |
| 20:07 | cait | oh |
| 20:07 | wizzyrea | much more like frbr |
| 20:07 | oleonard | So copyright date was like "original copyright date" ? |
| 20:08 | rangi | yeah MARC broke all that stuff |
| 20:08 | stupid marc | |
| 20:08 | * oleonard | is sure he's been told this before |
| 20:08 | rangi | yup |
| 20:08 | there really is no reason for the biblio/biblioitems split anymore,it should go away | |
| 20:08 | since marc will never die and our grandchildren will still be dealing with this crap | |
| 20:09 | * oleonard | just discovered list sorting by year doesn't work because it tries to sort by biblioitems.publicationyear which is empty because default Koha to MARC mapping doesn't map it to anything |
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| 20:14 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 20:14 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 7.0°C (10:00 PM CEST on October 27, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.11 in 1019 hPa (Rising). |
| 20:14 | cait | oleonard: I think it does for unimarc |
| 20:14 | oleonard: marc21 links to copyrightdate | |
| 20:14 | and no... that's no fun | |
| 20:14 | oleonard | I know...and why the difference? Some arbitrary choice in the past? |
| 20:15 | * wizzyrea | bets on arbitrary |
| 20:15 | nengard | hey all - i'm looking for the bug report about the staff client results saying things are available even when they're not |
| 20:17 | cait | oleonard: I have no idea |
| 20:19 | wizzyrea | bug 2708 |
| 20:19 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2708 major, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Checked out items saying available |
| 20:20 | wizzyrea | but many times that has to do with index lag |
| 20:28 | nengard | thanks wizzyrea |
| 20:43 | wizzyrea | ok smarties |
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| 20:44 | wizzyrea | nm lol |
| 20:44 | rangi | heh |
| 20:46 | cait | ? |
| 20:46 | smarties? | |
| 20:46 | ibeardslee | mmmm smarties |
| 20:46 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smarties ? | |
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| 21:28 | libsysguy | hey #Koha |
| 21:32 | what table do list get stored in? | |
| 21:32 | rangi | http://schema.koha-community.o[…]rtualshelves.html |
| 21:32 | and | |
| 21:33 | http://schema.koha-community.o[…]helfcontents.html | |
| 21:33 | libsysguy | sweet thanks rangi…i swear one day ill get the tables down pat |
| 21:55 | wizzyrea | i love you, schema.koha-community.org |
| 21:55 | sincerely | |
| 21:56 | is there a wiki on making and using sysprefs? | |
| 21:56 | i has a curious | |
| 21:56 | libsysguy | apparently that procedure changed since i last did it |
| 21:56 | because my patch got rejected :'( | |
| 21:56 | wizzyrea | urf |
| 21:57 | i'm looking at the renewal sysprefs | |
| 21:57 | the renewal_blocked_fines really ought to be dependent on OpacRenewalAllowed | |
| 21:57 | libsysguy | hmm |
| 21:57 | wizzyrea | as in, anything relating to renewals in the opac |
| 21:57 | libsysguy | can you set dependent behaviors in sysprefs? |
| 21:58 | *n00b question* | |
| 21:58 | wizzyrea | if OpacRenewalAllowed is off, nothing should ever show ever about renewals |
| 21:58 | right now it's a kludgy workaround of setting the threshold super high and praying. | |
| 21:59 | to not see a message about renewals | |
| 21:59 | my assumption was that if it can be codified, it could be done. maybe that's wrong. | |
| 21:59 | libsysguy | hmm sorry wizzyrea but im not the expert in that area :-\ |
| 22:00 | wizzyrea | oh it's all good |
| 22:00 | i'm pondering just poking at it until I figure it out :P | |
| 22:00 | hoo boy look at the time >.> | |
| 22:00 | what should I have for dinner? | |
| 22:00 | libsysguy | mashed potatoes |
| 22:00 | eythian | wizzyrea: there is a wiki page about writing sysprefs |
| 22:01 | wizzyrea | shepherd's pie, good idea |
| 22:01 | eythian | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ystem_Preferences |
| 22:01 | wizzyrea | cool thanks eythian |
| 22:01 | eythian | needs some updating, really. For 3.6 you don't have to worry about translations, just stick it in the english one and some magic happens somewhere. |
| 22:02 | wizzyrea | yea that's what I thought |
| 22:03 | *saved in my tabs for tomorrow* | |
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