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| 05:55 | stuartyeates | rangi: I'll be at lconz briefly (for the Māori Subject Headings talk) if you want to catch up. Or you may be busy |
| 06:03 | magnuse | kia ora #koha |
| 06:07 | stuartyeates | kia ora magnuse, kei te pēhea koe? |
| 06:07 | magnuse | um, sorry? |
| 06:08 | eythian | hi magnuse |
| 06:08 | magnuse | hiya eythian |
| 06:09 | congrats on the rugby! | |
| 06:10 | eythian | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xN1WN0YMWZU <-- this is my general opinion on the subject :) |
| 06:12 | magnuse | good for you, eythian ;-) |
| 06:12 | eythian | hehe |
| 06:13 | magnuse | i'm with you, btw |
| 06:13 | eythian | excellent :) |
| 06:13 | stuartyeates | eythian: just like that, but with odd-shaped balls |
| 06:13 | eythian | stuartyeates: you should see a doctor, maybe? ;) |
| 06:13 | magnuse | lol! |
| 06:15 | * eythian | is of the opinion that vim needs a ':write-my-presentation' function. |
| 06:16 | eythian | I bet emacs has one. |
| 06:16 | magnuse | then vim should have it too |
| 06:16 | stuartyeates | i'm currently deciding whether to find myself work at a campus library with windows overlooking the ticker-tape parade route tomorrow |
| 06:17 | magnuse | sounds like a good plan |
| 06:19 | eythian | I think they just miss where I am. I should note what time it happens so I don't get caught up in it when I go to lunch. |
| 06:19 | magnuse | even better plan ;-) |
| 06:24 | alex_a | hello |
| 06:25 | eythian | Speaking of better plans, I'm going to go take my laptop somewhere with fresh beer and get some presentation writing done there. |
| 06:26 | magnuse | good luck eythian |
| 06:26 | eythian | ta :) |
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| 06:50 | reiveune | hello |
| 06:51 | stuartyeates | hello reiveune |
| 06:51 | reiveune | :) |
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| 07:05 | magnuse | bonjour france |
| 07:07 | hdl | hi magnuse |
| 07:07 | magnuse | hiya hdl |
| 07:07 | rangi | ` |
| 07:08 | magnuse | ' |
| 07:10 | @wunder boo | |
| 07:10 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 8.0°C (8:50 AM CEST on October 25, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady). |
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| 07:12 | sophie_m1 | hello magnuse |
| 07:12 | magnuse | bonjour sophie_m1 |
| 07:12 | asaurat | hi all |
| 07:12 | magnuse | hi asaurat |
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| 07:24 | paul_p | hello everybody |
| 07:24 | rangi: around ? | |
| 07:27 | magnuse | kia ora paul_p |
| 07:30 | paul_p | hello magnuse |
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| 08:21 | magnuse | ooh, jransom reporting from india on twitter: "Sun sand mango lassi seafood masala" |
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| 08:45 | cait | hi #koha |
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| 09:07 | stuartyeates | the new note is at https://docs.google.com/docume[…]U9Q/edit?hl=en_GB |
| 09:07 | oops, sorry, wrong channel | |
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| 09:28 | magnuse | guten tag cait |
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| 09:37 | cait | hi magnuse :) |
| 09:38 | magnuse | :-) |
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| 09:57 | jcamins_away | cait: around? |
| 09:57 | magnuse | 1 year ago today since kohacon10 started! |
| 09:58 | cait | yep |
| 09:58 | magnuse: don't make me sad! | |
| 09:59 | magnuse | cait: happy memories! |
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| 10:54 | kohanew | on holding a book on OPAC I am having this error "Sorry, none of these items can be placed on hold." |
| 10:56 | book multiple copies available & showing on OPAC... | |
| 10:56 | jcamins | kohanew: that means you need to adjust your circulation matrix, and add a circ rule to allow the items to be placed on hold. |
| 11:04 | kohanew | jcamins: many thanks for your help its working now.. |
| 11:05 | jcamins | Hooray! |
| 11:09 | cait | jcamins++ |
| 11:09 | jcamins | @karma |
| 11:09 | huginn | jcamins: Highest karma: "rangi" (423), "oleonard" (337), and "gmcharlt" (266). Lowest karma: "<!" (-107), "failed" (-67), and "-" (-37). You (jcamins) are ranked 12 out of 1750. |
| 11:10 | jcamins | Wow! 12 out of 1750? |
| 11:10 | @karma jcamins_away | |
| 11:10 | huginn | jcamins: Karma for "jcamins_away" has been increased 8 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 8. |
| 11:10 | jcamins | @karma jcamins |
| 11:10 | huginn | jcamins: Karma for "jcamins" has been increased 105 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 104. |
| 11:10 | * jcamins | likes the fact that <! has the lowest karma. |
| 11:17 | cait | :) |
| 11:20 | liw | @karma liw |
| 11:20 | huginn | liw: Karma for "liw" has been increased 18 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 18. |
| 11:21 | liw | I don't even do anything for Koha :) |
| 11:21 | and I'm still better than XML comments | |
| 11:25 | cait | you are a lot better than the old comments :) |
| 11:26 | and you started the packages :) | |
| 11:26 | jcamins | liw++ |
| 11:27 | cait | liw++ |
| 11:27 | @wunder Reutlingen | |
| 11:27 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Reutlingen, Germany is 11.2°C (1:27 PM CEST on October 25, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 38%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Pressure: 28.35 in 959.9 hPa (Steady). |
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| 11:41 | magnuse | liw++ |
| 11:42 | @wunder boo | |
| 11:42 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 8.0°C (1:20 PM CEST on October 25, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady). |
| 11:42 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 11:42 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 9.2°C (1:39 PM CEST on October 25, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Windchill: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1003.9 hPa (Steady). |
| 11:42 | magnuse | @wunder stavanger, norway |
| 11:42 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Stavanger, Norway is 12.0°C (1:20 PM CEST on October 25, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady). |
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| 11:55 | * Oak | waves |
| 11:55 | cait | hi Oak |
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| 12:02 | magnuse | Oak |
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| 12:14 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
| 12:19 | * oleonard | wonders why his new vendors are being added with null ids |
| 12:21 | jcamins | oleonard: strong egos? |
| 12:22 | oleonard | :P |
| 12:23 | So jcamins, are you up to anything fun lately? | |
| 12:24 | cait | oleonard: ouch |
| 12:24 | oleonard: I filed a bug about search in acq - if you would take a look at that too it would be appreciated | |
| 12:24 | not a lot of people testing acq | |
| 12:24 | * oleonard | dropped the table and re-added it from kohastructure.sql and it seems to work now |
| 12:25 | jcamins | oleonard: "fun"? Well, I'm in the process of buying an apartment (hopefully). |
| 12:25 | Not so fun. | |
| 12:29 | Also some cataloging, which is more fun. :) | |
| 12:35 | * oleonard | is not much of a city boy, so the phrase "buying an apartment" sounds weird |
| 12:35 | jcamins | It does to me, too. |
| 12:37 | magnuse | not to me ;-) |
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| 12:43 | magnuse | hiya nengard! |
| 12:44 | nengard | hello |
| 12:44 | wahanui | hey, nengard |
| 12:46 | Oak | magnuse |
| 12:46 | magnuse | :-) |
| 12:46 | Oak | hello cait |
| 12:46 | :-) | |
| 12:47 | cait | hi Oak :) |
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| 12:56 | magnuse | kia ora trea |
| 12:59 | trea | hi manguse |
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| 13:11 | oleonard | cait: Did you do any investigation of the SQL generated by an order search? |
| 13:11 | cait | I am not sure how to do it :( |
| 13:11 | I checked the logs | |
| 13:11 | but they were empty | |
| 13:12 | oleonard | I get the same results as you: A search from the quick search form works, a search from the advanced search doesn't |
| 13:12 | cait | oleonard: hm and least you can reproduce |
| 13:12 | nicole said it worked for her yesterday | |
| 13:12 | but not sure which title search she used | |
| 13:12 | could you update the bug? give it another little push? | |
| 13:13 | this is really annoying | |
| 13:13 | * oleonard | is going to do some more investigation |
| 13:14 | cait | thx oleonard |
| 13:14 | are you planning to use acq? | |
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| 13:14 | vfernandes | Hi Koha community |
| 13:14 | cait | i would really appreaciate if you could add your personal touch to the basket groups page |
| 13:14 | hi vfernandes | |
| 13:14 | oleonard | I've looked at it before, but I was confused about how it worked or what it was supposed to do |
| 13:14 | I'd be happy to look again sometime | |
| 13:15 | cait | I can explain how it works if that helps :) |
| 13:15 | lots of css in the template | |
| 13:17 | oleonard | If you have AcqCreateItem set to create an item when placing an order and you don't fill out the add item form you get a nasty error |
| 13:17 | cait | ah |
| 13:17 | yes | |
| 13:17 | that's old | |
| 13:17 | you need at least an item type | |
| 13:17 | all other things you can leave empty | |
| 13:18 | I keep filing bugs for acq... but noone cares | |
| 13:20 | vfernandes | which is the best way to change the code of one document type that is already in use? |
| 13:20 | cait | oleonard: bug 495 |
| 13:20 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]ow_bug.cgi?id=495 enhancement, P2, ---, paul.poulain, RESOLVED WONTFIX, Omit numbers from marc_word table |
| 13:20 | paul_p | cait: the good news is that we will start upgrading our customers in 3.6 in the next weeks/months, so we will have to deal with those bugs |
| 13:20 | cait | bug 4955 |
| 13:20 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4955 critical, P5, ---, henridamien, NEW , adding to basket with no item throws error |
| 13:20 | oleonard | Ah, critical no less :) |
| 13:21 | cait | paul_p: it's been broken for a long time, I am a bit frustrated |
| 13:21 | and the prospect of some more weeks/months is not helping :( | |
| 13:22 | paul_p | cait: for this one, we don't face it, because we have default/mandatory values at least for branch field. |
| 13:22 | cait | our library is quite unhappy with it and I had hoped things would be better with 3.6 - but while testing yesterday and today I find so many things still broken |
| 13:23 | paul_p | (why would one have AcqCreateItems=ordering and nothing entered as item ?) |
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| 13:24 | cait | bug 6893 |
| 13:24 | wahanui | bug 6893 is, like, evil :( |
| 13:24 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6893 critical, P5, ---, henridamien, NEW , Order from suggestion does not remove suggestion from 'accepted' list |
| 13:24 | cait | wahanui botsnack cookie |
| 13:24 | wahanui | :) |
| 13:24 | oleonard | paul_p: People don't always want to do things the same way. We shouldn't make assumptions |
| 13:24 | cait | paul_p: the problem is people forget to enter things |
| 13:24 | oleonard | ...particularly not when our assumptions can lead to errors. We should always cover error-handling. |
| 13:25 | cait | paul_p: and, if you have clicked the plus sign, and leave one item form empty... booom! |
| 13:25 | paul_p | oleonard: I agree. But i'd like to know what is the logic behind it. Sometimes it's also because there's no logic |
| 13:25 | cait | paul_p: and i don't have to mention that the - (minus) sign that used to be there to remove an accidently added item is broken currently too |
| 13:25 | magnuse | would it help to make necessary fields mandatory? |
| 13:25 | paul_p | cait: as I said = in our setup, this cannot happen because the branch is mandatory, so it's filled even if the library enter nothing |
| 13:26 | cait | paul_p: I can try that for the library, this bug is not so terrible as others |
| 13:27 | bug 6740 | |
| 13:27 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6740 critical, P5, ---, henridamien, NEW , can add items at ordering but not remove items |
| 13:27 | oleonard | cait: This orders search thing seems to come and go |
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| 13:28 | oleonard | Wow, could it really be that the bug only manifests where there is only one order? |
| 13:28 | cait | hm |
| 13:28 | werid but could be the case? | |
| 13:28 | I have a talent for finding things like that | |
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| 13:32 | oleonard | No, never mind. With two orders I can find one but not the other |
| 13:34 | cait | oleonard: same here |
| 13:35 | Oak | hm, detective work in progress. cool. |
| 13:38 | cait | oleonard++ :) |
| 13:38 | Oak: there is another gbsd soon - want to learn how to sign off on things? ;) | |
| 13:42 | vfernandes | there is any script to update the marcxml of biblioitems table after changing one column of biblioitem table directly on the database |
| 13:42 | ?? | |
| 13:45 | jcamins | vfernandes: not to my knowledge. |
| 13:45 | vfernandes: changing the database directly sounds like a terrible idea, for the record. | |
| 13:46 | oleonard | I don't get it. The query generated by the successful and unsuccessful searches are the same. |
| 13:47 | vfernandes | jcamins i need to change the code of one document type, so the code must be updated in the biblioitems and items |
| 13:48 | jcamins | vfernandes: I think you have to write a script to do that. |
| 13:48 | vfernandes | for items there is a sync_items_in_marc_bib.pl which synchronized the data of items table with the biblioitem marcxml |
| 13:48 | for biblioitems there isn't nothing to sync the marcxml | |
| 13:50 | jcamins | vfernandes: yes, because editing the database directly would be considered dangerous. |
| 13:51 | vfernandes: I don't think there's any way to do what you want other than writing a script yourself to make the change. | |
| 13:51 | vfernandes | yes i know that is dangerous... |
| 13:52 | cait | perhaps exporting your marc data and reimportant that would work better? |
| 13:52 | vfernandes | the itemtype is only used in the following tables of database: biblioitems, items, issuinrules, deletedbiblioitems, deleteditems and itemtypes |
| 13:53 | jcamins | vfernandes: also, sync_items_in_marc_bib.pl doesn't apply to 3.4 or 3.6. |
| 13:53 | ^^ good idea | |
| 13:54 | vfernandes | i'm using 3.2.6 and UNIMARC so sync_items_in_marc_bib.pl works fine... |
| 13:55 | i'll do a script to sync the biblioitems info with the marcxml | |
| 13:57 | oleonard | Acquisition.pm builds the order search sql by checking "if ( defined $title )" and "if ( defined $author )" etc. |
| 13:57 | vfernandes | thanks ppl for the help :) |
| 13:58 | oleonard | If I change that to "if ($title)", etc. it seems to work. |
| 13:58 | cait | oleonard: werid |
| 13:58 | weird even | |
| 13:59 | oleonard | But I'm not sure how the two syntaxes differ technically |
| 14:01 | cait | me neither :( |
| 14:01 | google? | |
| 14:01 | wahanui | well, google is not a web browser, it's a search engine company. |
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| 14:03 | magnuse | http://perldoc.perl.org/functions/defined.html |
| 14:04 | oleonard | cait, I'm guessing it's correct because the SQL generated is correct, omitting the fields which were submitted with no value |
| 14:04 | ...whereas before the SQL included checks on author, isbn, etc even though I didn't submit anything in those fields | |
| 14:05 | cait | that sounds reasonable |
| 14:06 | oleonard++ | |
| 14:06 | oleonard | the only thing it doesn't explain is why the one query worked and the other didn't |
| 14:06 | I'll update the bug | |
| 14:07 | cait | thank you :) |
| 14:07 | but no patch with your little change? | |
| 14:07 | oleonard | I can send the patch and hope someone will smack it down if I'm wrong |
| 14:08 | cait | we have a qa team for that :P |
| 14:08 | * oleonard | just hates to have his knuckles rapped with a ruler like that |
| 14:11 | magnuse | http://www.foo.be/docs/tpj/iss[…]tpj0402-0002.html |
| 14:11 | i *think* that in perl if you have $title = "", then | |
| 14:12 | if ( defined $title ) => true | |
| 14:12 | if ($title) => false | |
| 14:13 | because when it's set to "", it *is* defined, but "" is counted as false | |
| 14:13 | oleonard | http://www.neverworkintheory.org/?p=197 |
| 14:13 | "Perl users were unable to write programs more accurately than those using a language designed by chance" | |
| 14:13 | nengard | got a question - did i just find a bug? |
| 14:13 | oleonard | nengard: Yes. |
| 14:13 | nengard | I have AllowRenewalLimitOverride set to allow and the renew checkbox is always there |
| 14:13 | even if i don't click the override checkbox at the bottom | |
| 14:14 | and if the book is on hold it never ever gives me the checkbox to renew | |
| 14:14 | and i don't think i'm making any sense | |
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| 14:19 | * oleonard | sends a patch to the patches list and then wonders if he wasn't supposed to |
| 14:20 | nengard | you're supposed to |
| 14:20 | just not signed off patches | |
| 14:20 | wizzyrea | naw, original patches go to the list |
| 14:20 | what she said | |
| 14:20 | cait | oleonard: I think new patches is ok, it was only for sign-offs |
| 14:20 | magnuse | what they said |
| 14:20 | nengard | hehe |
| 14:20 | echo echo echo | |
| 14:21 | magnuse | :-) |
| 14:21 | Oak | cait, yes! |
| 14:21 | wizzyrea | nengard: I think that when you go to check out the book to the same patron again, it says "item is on hold, override renew?" |
| 14:21 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7085] Problems with searching for orders in acquisitions <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7085> |
| 14:21 | Oak | sorry, i was away |
| 14:22 | nengard | wizzyrea - i'll try - but it used to show a checkbox |
| 14:22 | cait | yeah, i should read all of it too before answering :) |
| 14:22 | wizzyrea | i'm not so sure that's true - the checkboxes have always been sketchy |
| 14:22 | nengard | nope wizzyrea it didn't prompt me to check out anyway |
| 14:23 | wizzyrea | then yea, it's probably a big |
| 14:23 | bug | |
| 14:23 | not a big bug, just a regular one :P | |
| 14:23 | Oak | a big bug |
| 14:23 | * wizzyrea | stops talking. |
| 14:23 | Oak | oh okay |
| 14:23 | nengard | Bug 7088 reported |
| 14:23 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7088 major, P5, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , renewal overriding funky |
| 14:23 | nengard | sorry the title isn't better |
| 14:23 | wizzyrea | hehe |
| 14:23 | nengard | i have no idea how to describe this |
| 14:23 | wizzyrea | we all need some funky in our lives. |
| 14:24 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDZFf0pm0SE | |
| 14:24 | with extra funk | |
| 14:24 | oleonard | In order to test, one of the items I have checked out should be on hold for someone else? |
| 14:25 | * magnuse | prefers http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyvxHL5hLfE |
| 14:25 | wizzyrea | lol |
| 14:26 | that is beyond my imagination. | |
| 14:26 | magnuse | heh |
| 14:26 | wizzyrea | where's trea, he would love that. |
| 14:27 | trea | mmm? |
| 14:27 | wizzyrea | click that last link from magnuse |
| 14:27 | oleonard | nengard: The bug happens when I'm in circ, looking at a checked-out item which is on hold for someone else? |
| 14:28 | nengard | yes |
| 14:28 | trea | *thumbs up* |
| 14:28 | wizzyrea | with AllowRenewalLimitOverride on |
| 14:28 | magnuse | yay |
| 14:29 | oleonard | nengard: And then what? |
| 14:29 | Oh, I check "override renewal limit" and the checkbox doesn't appear? | |
| 14:29 | nengard | i was reading things a big wrong - i thought the 0 (zero) was saying no renewals allowed - but it was saying renewed 0 times ? let me update the bug |
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| 14:30 | nengard | bug 7088 |
| 14:30 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7088 major, P5, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , cannot renew items on hold even with override |
| 14:30 | nengard | real title now :) |
| 14:30 | cait | oleonard++ |
| 14:31 | magnus_afk | oleonard++ |
| 14:32 | hdl | anyone having that kind of message on install : |
| 14:32 | !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | |
| 14:32 | ERROR: Cannot copy 'misc/translator/' to 'blib/INTRANET_TMPL_DIR/prog/fr-FR/js/tinymce/jscripts/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-undecided.gif': est un dossier | |
| 14:32 | !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | |
| 14:32 | ? | |
| 14:32 | cait | hm |
| 14:32 | running the translate install command? | |
| 14:33 | I had tested a new install for german that seemed working nicely | |
| 14:34 | magnus_afk | never seen that |
| 14:34 | trying to copy a folder to a gif? weird! | |
| 14:35 | * magnus_afk | wanders off |
| 14:37 | hdl | cait: no: it is only a make install. |
| 14:37 | Which goes wild. | |
| 14:37 | (dev install) But it should work | |
| 14:38 | and it crash. | |
| 14:40 | cait | hmm |
| 14:41 | but make does not take care of translations I think? | |
| 14:43 | slef | magnus_afk wants people to use Google :( |
| 14:44 | (GBSD email) | |
| 14:44 | * magnus_afk | said "or something" and is always open to better suggestions |
| 14:44 | oleonard | google works fine for people who use google |
| 14:44 | wizzyrea | any thoughts on what would cause an entry in reserves to have no biblionumber and no itemnumber? |
| 14:45 | nengard | deleting the bib record and item record after the hold was placed? |
| 14:45 | no ? i guess that wouldn't touch the reserves table | |
| 14:45 | wizzyrea | even things with status like "waiting?!" |
| 14:45 | nengard | hmmm |
| 14:46 | wizzyrea | oh, the ones that have no bib# but are waiting have an itemnumber |
| 14:46 | nengard | yeah seems unlikely |
| 14:46 | wizzyrea | I have 72 of these such entries in my database |
| 14:47 | many since coming on to 3.3 | |
| 14:47 | all but 4, actually | |
| 14:48 | oleonard | I don't see any in our production database |
| 14:48 | wizzyrea | hmm |
| 14:48 | slef | magnus_afk: yeah, you suggest a closed tool, which most FOSS users don't know exactly what it does, so pushing them into the alternatives trap. :( |
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| 14:48 | wizzyrea | deleting a bib could do it I guess |
| 14:50 | wow that's a mystery | |
| 14:54 | magnus_afk | slef: what would you recommend, then?? |
| 14:54 | slef | magnus_afk: I don't know what you're trying to do! |
| 14:54 | magnus_afk: see email reply. | |
| 14:55 | wizzyrea | hangout is multi user video conferencing. |
| 14:55 | VOIP | |
| 14:55 | + video | |
| 14:57 | libsysguy | i love using hangout |
| 15:02 | wizzyrea | i'm not aware of a similar open solution |
| 15:02 | but if anyone could find one, it would be slef :) | |
| 15:02 | slef | jitsi? |
| 15:03 | wizzyrea | requires a client, hangout is web based, but a good alternative to skype for sure |
| 15:04 | slef | I didn't think web browsers could read video yet? |
| 15:04 | there is a similar open protocol (multi-user jingle) which I'm sure Google could complete relatively quickly, but they've done their own private system first. | |
| 15:05 | Oh wait... is hangout part of Google+? | |
| 15:06 | libsysguy | yeah it is slef |
| 15:06 | slef | Oh well, that's something. I thought they'd launched a second Google video conferencing system for a few minutes there. |
| 15:06 | libsysguy | haha yeah you should try it out...its actually really cool...i run it on my phone sometimes |
| 15:06 | works better than facetime :p | |
| 15:07 | slef | I'll be quite surprised if hangout doesn't require a flash client to send video. |
| 15:07 | wizzyrea | java maybe? |
| 15:07 | it's been a while since I set it up | |
| 15:07 | libsysguy | its their own driver-ish install |
| 15:07 | works off the same thing gtalk video does | |
| 15:07 | where you can chat in gamil | |
| 15:07 | slef | point is, all the video-sending tools need clients |
| 15:07 | libsysguy | gmail* |
| 15:09 | oleonard | Weird, I can't find a previous state where that "override renewal limit" checkbox worked even though I know it did |
| 15:09 | paul_p | oleonard: rel_3_8 is here ;-) |
| 15:10 | (instead of Rel_3_8) | |
| 15:10 | oleonard | :D |
| 15:10 | * paul_p | discovering the admin section of bugzilla. Handy and powerfull... |
| 15:11 | wizzyrea | bugzilla does a ton of stuff |
| 15:12 | paul_p | wizzyrea: yep, i'm playing with versions ;-) |
| 15:13 | (all ENH attached to master instead of rel_3_8. Will be switched to 3_8 once they are pushed) | |
| 15:13 | wizzyrea | hm, with jitsi, you have to have or know a SIP service to connect to |
| 15:13 | to do video or voip | |
| 15:18 | ago | Hi #koha! My name is Albert Oller and I've just joined Bywater Solutions. I don't know anything yet, but I hope to be contributing soon. |
| 15:18 | reiveune | bye |
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| 15:18 | slef | wizzyrea: sure, but we all have one, right? ;-) (if not, iptel.org and voipuser.org are two) |
| 15:19 | Danielle | \o |
| 15:19 | wizzyrea | hi ago |
| 15:19 | slef: I'd guess fewer of us have one than have a google plus account :P | |
| 15:20 | (do note, I'm not arguing with you really - of course we should prefer open solutions. Sometimes it's just not *practical*) | |
| 15:21 | Danielle | ago: Congratulations! |
| 15:22 | * Danielle | gets her references off to her new employer. |
| 15:23 | slef | wizzyrea: probably. Because many Open Source users are frogs who happily keep sitting in the water ;-) |
| 15:23 | Danielle: references or referees? | |
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| 15:26 | Danielle | slef: Sometimes it feels like both. |
| 15:27 | oleonard | Welcome, ago |
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| 15:27 | Danielle | The list consists of a coworker, my manager at my last employer, and my current manager. My new employer requires that at least two of the references be current or former managers. |
| 15:31 | cait | agi: hi and welcome :) |
| 15:32 | hm ago.. sorry | |
| 15:32 | oleonard | Danielle: So no stealth job changes eh? |
| 15:32 | slef | Danielle: yeah, I'd call them referees. What they send are references. |
| 15:33 | wizzyrea | i wish there was something like catchfree.com for FOSS projects |
| 15:33 | is there one? | |
| 15:33 | Danielle | slef: True enough. |
| 15:34 | oleonard: That has double meaning for me... :) | |
| 15:37 | slef | wizzyrea: not as flashy but FSF/UNESCO directory, freshmeat, maybe alternativeto.net (but free there = cost-free) |
| 15:37 | wizzyrea | yea I just looked at alternativeto |
| 15:37 | i like the ratings thing on catchfree.com, handy | |
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| 15:38 | ago | <cait>: I've been called worse. |
| 15:40 | * oleonard | has never heard the name Oller before |
| 15:42 | cait | <cait>? |
| 15:42 | it sounds a bit german :) | |
| 15:46 | ok, have to leave :) bye all! | |
| 15:46 | cait left #koha | |
| 15:47 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6894] Order from suggestion defaulting to wrong currency <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6894> |
| 15:53 | nengard | um ? did someone close the ticket on patron attributes not being editable/addable? I can't find it anymore |
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| 15:59 | slef | @query patron attributes |
| 15:59 | huginn | slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2847 normal, P1, ---, oleonard, NEW , Use HTML escape in templates where appropriate |
| 15:59 | slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4418 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Enable required option for patron attributes | |
| 15:59 | slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5272 minor, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , can't import just patron attributes | |
| 15:59 | nengard | nevermind |
| 15:59 | found it | |
| 15:59 | huginn | slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6891 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , LDIF interoperability - a proposal |
| 15:59 | slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5161 major, P5, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , patron attributes clearing if error | |
| 15:59 | nengard | slef it was closed |
| 15:59 | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6930 | |
| 15:59 | huginn | 04Bug 6930: critical, P5, ---, kyle.m.hall, RESOLVED FIXED, can't add patron attributes anymore |
| 15:59 | slef | was it fixed? |
| 16:27 | nengard | slef yes, sorry |
| 16:29 | slef | ok, cool |
| 16:32 | francharb | bye |
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| 17:03 | oleonard | Bug 5083 isn't valid anymore is it, given that we no longer bundle all languages? (isn't that right?) |
| 17:03 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5083 normal, P5, ---, chris, NEW , Some source files lack on ca-VA tree distribution |
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| 18:00 | wizzyrea | sql report library? |
| 18:00 | wahanui | sql report library is at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]L_Reports_Library |
| 18:00 | wizzyrea | lazy me. |
| 18:01 | nengard | wizzyrea - i can be even lazier - i have firefox remember my history so all i type is sql and it pops up :) |
| 18:01 | wizzyrea | hehe |
| 18:08 | * oleonard | loves the awesome bar |
| 18:09 | wizzyrea | speak to me of this "awesome bar" |
| 18:10 | oleonard | It's what Mozilla calls the location bar now that it pulls up history, bookmarks, etc. |
| 18:10 | wizzyrea | aha |
| 18:10 | nengard | http://blog.mozilla.com/blog/2[…]-about-firefox-3/ |
| 18:10 | i didn't know that either | |
| 18:11 | wizzyrea | huh. "awesome" :) |
| 18:14 | slef | aka the battery-draining CPU hog ;) |
| 18:14 | but when you need it, it's a useful feature | |
| 18:16 | * wizzyrea | muppet arms about privacy |
| 18:16 | sits down | |
| 18:19 | slef | heh |
| 18:19 | I hadn't even thought about the privacy bit | |
| 18:19 | but my computer's relatively secure anyway | |
| 18:19 | wizzyrea | rather like this: http://www.gifmania.co.uk/tv-s[…]pet-show/kerm.gif |
| 18:20 | jwagner | I frankly loathe the "awesome" bar to the extent that the first plugin I loaded was Old Location Bar -- to make it work as it used to. |
| 18:23 | slef | heh, guess one of my machines needs its git config updating: "The following message to <patcheskoha.org> was undeliverable. The reason for the problem: 5.4.7 - Delivery expired (message too old) 'timeout'" |
| 18:23 | ||
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| 18:36 | cait | hi #koha |
| 18:36 | wizzyrea | wb cait |
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| 18:38 | oleonard | cait, maybe you know the answer to this |
| 18:38 | Bug 5083 isn't valid anymore is it, given that we no longer bundle all languages? (isn't that right?) | |
| 18:38 | wahanui | i already had it that way, oleonard. |
| 18:38 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5083 normal, P5, ---, chris, NEW , Some source files lack on ca-VA tree distribution |
| 18:38 | cait | let me read the bus |
| 18:39 | bug | |
| 18:42 | oleonard: broken po files I think | |
| 18:42 | if you have errors in the po files, not all template files are created | |
| 18:42 | when you run the script | |
| 18:42 | and we still bundle them | |
| 18:42 | the languages :) | |
| 18:43 | ok | |
| 18:43 | correction | |
| 18:43 | we only bundle the po files, not the template files | |
| 18:44 | oleonard: sorry, I just got home, want me to answer on the bug? | |
| 18:44 | if it's 3.0 ther is not much we can do to fix it now | |
| 18:45 | so I would suggest fixing the po files using poedit (we don't have 3.0 on pootle now) | |
| 18:45 | oleonard | If it's necessarily 3.0-related then we can just WONTFIX it. I just wanted to make sure it wasn't still valid for a current version |
| 19:08 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6832] Validation of total > budget in neworderempty <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6832> |
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| 19:09 | smeagol | Does anyone know of a good, cheap cloud to store about 2 terrabytes of data? |
| 19:10 | terabytes | |
| 19:10 | terrorbytes? | |
| 19:10 | wizzyrea | hehe |
| 19:12 | * oleonard | would hesitate to entrust 2 terabytes to anyone described as "cheap" |
| 19:13 | cait | oleonard: commented |
| 19:13 | magnuse++ | |
| 19:21 | rhcl | smeagol: a NAS out of the question? I've been pretty happy with our Seagate BlackArmor NAS 440 |
| 19:21 | Ubuntu One is good for smaller storage. https://one.ubuntu.com/ | |
| 19:35 | * wizzyrea | has 2TB on her desk, just sayin |
| 19:48 | smeagol | inexpensive..i should say.. |
| 19:49 | rhcl | sounded to me like wizzyrea was offering... just sayin |
| 19:49 | wizzyrea | haha |
| 19:49 | it'd cost a lot to get here ;) | |
| 19:49 | oleonard | Just write out the data on a postcard and she'll transcribe it. |
| 19:51 | smeagol | Yeah, well we're thinking for disaster recovery, put the data in the cloud and forget about it kind of thing.. |
| 19:51 | rhcl | oh, but write it out in binary for machine efficiency |
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| 19:51 | smeagol | Just found out though that Amazon charges an arm and two legs if you need the data back!!! |
| 19:52 | rhcl | yea, gotta watch the data transfers w/ Amazon, but really their prices aren't out of line for quality data storage |
| 19:54 | smeagol | true |
| 19:57 | Guess I'm not looking for the caddilac version..maybe the Buick or Pontiac version... | |
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| 20:04 | wizzyrea | lol when did adding the library URL to the library definition make that hotlinkable in the holdings list? |
| 20:04 | * wizzyrea | discovers something wonderful about koha every day |
| 20:06 | oleonard | I don't know when it was added... I worked on a related bug recently which brought it to my attention |
| 20:06 | wizzyrea | it's amazing |
| 20:06 | (I don't have them all added yet but LOOKIE: http://catalog.nexpresslibrary[…]blionumber=144044 ) | |
| 20:07 | oleonard | Of course now your patrons will wonder why that link doesn't point to a map of the stacks |
| 20:08 | * wizzyrea | facepalm |
| 20:08 | wizzyrea | s |
| 20:08 | but | |
| 20:08 | it kind of does >.> | |
| 20:08 | it at least hopefully tells you how to get to that library | |
| 20:08 | ^.^ | |
| 20:10 | oleonard | Heh, our call numbers used to be all "JE MAR" like that too, back when our ILS came with a data storage limit. |
| 20:10 | Hey my internet connection, should it really take 5 minutes to pull up Bugzilla search results? | |
| 20:24 | wizzyrea | apparently they want the call numbers to fit on the spine? |
| 20:24 | it's probably like cutting the end off the ham: that's how they've been told to do it for ever and ever | |
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| 20:25 | wizzyrea | "why did you do that?" "because the ham wouldn't fit in my pan!" |
| 20:25 | "I always did it because that's what grandma did!" | |
| 20:25 | (and mom... and auntie em, and... and... and... ) | |
| 20:27 | oleonard | Okay, all done for today. See y'all tomorrow. |
| 20:45 | wizzyrea | oh zaps can you do news items specific to language too?! That's neat! |
| 20:55 | Oak | night |
| 20:56 | smeagol | Someham..over the rainbow... |
| 20:57 | bg | NateC? |
| 20:57 | wahanui | I LIKE SPACE AND MY WIFE |
| 20:57 | wizzyrea | skies are blooooooooo |
| 20:57 | bg | yay smeagol :) |
| 20:57 | love the name ;) | |
| 20:57 | wizzyrea | bg? |
| 20:57 | wahanui | I LIKE BREAKFAST BURRITOS AND I LOVE BASEBALL |
| 20:57 | wizzyrea | keke |
| 21:00 | smeagol | Brendan..check this out.. |
| 21:00 | http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/gollum | |
| 21:00 | wizzyrea | O.O |
| 21:00 | that is terrifying and amazing. | |
| 21:00 | bg | yeah that's great! |
| 21:00 | smeagol | thanks |
| 21:00 | bg | whois smeagol ? |
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| 21:34 | eythian | stupid parade |
| 21:34 | I got stuck on a stupid bus because stupid roads are closed and the bus driver didn't realise people might want to get off part way along his normal route | |
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| 21:36 | wizzyrea | aw |
| 21:36 | poor eythian | |
| 21:37 | eythian | I know! |
| 21:37 | cait | poor eythian |
| 21:38 | eythian | kill -SIGBUS -1 |
| 21:38 | wizzyrea | keke |
| 21:43 | Danielle | o/ |
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| 23:54 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 54 for job Koha_3.4.x (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #50 17 j ago) |
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