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| 00:50 | druthb | o/ |
| 00:50 | wizzyrea | whaddup |
| 00:50 | druthb | :-O |
| 00:50 | how's wizzyrea? | |
| 00:50 | wizzyrea | oy, been sick for a couple of days but finally feeling better |
| 00:50 | how about you? | |
| 00:50 | wahanui | i guess you is ketchup Oak's friend, you! |
| 00:51 | druthb | tha's good. n spud? |
| 00:51 | I'm doing better...had a Big Win on something that'd had me stuck all week, which always helps. | |
| 00:51 | jcamins_away | \o |
| 00:51 | wizzyrea | noice |
| 00:51 | druthb | hi, jcamins_away! :) |
| 00:51 | Dynix Classic systems can't keep secrets from me any more. :D | |
| 00:51 | wizzyrea | woohoo! |
| 00:52 | druthb | They do things to the MARC that would make jcamins shudder, but I figured out how to splice things back together. |
| 00:53 | Danielle | Go druthb! |
| 00:54 | druthb | The thing that makes it really ugly is that they use ASCII 254 for a field delimiter...looks really heinous, but isn't. |
| 00:54 | jcamins | Woohoo! |
| 00:54 | Danielle | BTW, since I mentioned it earlier, the offer came through at the "good enough" level. :) |
| 00:54 | wizzyrea | nice! |
| 00:55 | jcamins | Myshkin has learned how to jump up and down. |
| 00:55 | druthb | excellent, Danielle! I'm happy to hear that. |
| 00:55 | wizzyrea | lol |
| 00:55 | Danielle | Thank you! I'll be accepting it tommorrow. |
| 00:56 | wizzyrea | at your cat |
| 00:56 | jcamins | (like, trampoline-style up-and-down) |
| 00:56 | Congratulations, Danielle! | |
| 00:56 | * Danielle | has a friend whose kitten does that on her chest. |
| 00:56 | Danielle | Thanks, jcamins |
| 00:56 | wizzyrea | awesome |
| 00:59 | eythian | druthb: liberty also uses 254, it's quite handy |
| 01:00 | but it uses it as a quote character, and 0x14 as a field separator. | |
| 01:00 | druthb | Once you know what the fenceposts look like, you can pay attention to the fence. |
| 01:00 | eythian | both of which are great because it can't export real CSVs and so things get really mixed up if it uses " and , |
| 01:00 | druthb | In the case of CHR(254), it's useful to cross your eyes. |
| 01:03 | eythian | all my scripts let me do things like "--fieldsep '0x14' --quotechar '0xFE'" to deal with this kind of thing. |
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| 02:22 | * jcamins | waves to eythian. |
| 02:23 | eythian | hi |
| 02:23 | wahanui | hey, eythian |
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| 04:03 | Oak | kia ora #koha |
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| 05:00 | cait | good morning #koha |
| 05:02 | Oak | hello Katrin Fischer |
| 05:02 | cait | hello Oak - so formal today? |
| 05:02 | Oak | :) |
| 05:20 | just thought why not try something different... | |
| 05:40 | cait | :) |
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| 06:13 | magnuse | kia ora #koha |
| 06:14 | alex_a | bonjour |
| 06:14 | wahanui | privet, alex_a |
| 06:14 | alex_a | hi magnuse, cait |
| 06:14 | magnuse | bonjour alex_a and cait |
| 06:15 | cait | morning :) |
| 06:16 | 2403 words need attention - hmpf | |
| 06:17 | magnuse | lucky you |
| 06:17 | cait | lucky me wished it was 0 |
| 06:20 | magnuse | didn't we all... ;-) |
| 06:28 | cait | 2027 - getting there |
| 06:31 | magnuse | yay! you can ndo it" |
| 06:31 | @arewethereyet | |
| 06:31 | huginn | magnuse: Not yet - wait 1 day |
| 06:31 | magnuse | woohoo! |
| 06:34 | cait | almost :) |
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| 06:48 | sophie_m | hi #koha |
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| 06:49 | magnuse | bonjour sophie_m |
| 06:49 | sophie_m | bonjour magnuse :-) |
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| 06:54 | reiveune1 | hello |
| 06:54 | wahanui | que tal, reiveune1 |
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| 07:02 | julian_m | hello |
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| 07:09 | asaurat | hi! |
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| 07:23 | kf | hi #koha |
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| 07:25 | kf | morning paul_p :) |
| 07:26 | paul_p | hello kf |
| 07:35 | kf | @arewethereyet |
| 07:35 | huginn | kf: Not yet - wait 1 day |
| 07:38 | kf | @wunder Konstanz |
| 07:38 | huginn | kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 2.5°C (9:35 AM CEST on October 21, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 30.38 in 1028.7 hPa (Rising). |
| 07:38 | kf | first ice on the car windows and grass today |
| 07:39 | magnuse | ouch |
| 07:39 | @wunder boo | |
| 07:40 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 5.0°C (9:20 AM CEST on October 21, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Rising). |
| 07:40 | kf | 1567 words need attention |
| 07:40 | magnuse | we had some frost two weeks ago |
| 07:40 | yay! | |
| 07:40 | kf | getting there! |
| 07:41 | magnuse | woohoo |
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| 07:52 | kf | 1125 words need attention |
| 07:52 | hehe | |
| 07:53 | Oak | kf++ |
| 07:54 | magnuse | kf++ |
| 07:54 | * kf | hides |
| 07:55 | magnuse | don't hide, translate! ;-) |
| 07:55 | kf | See the full documentation for Vendor Contracts in the |
| 07:56 | those are exhausting!" | |
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| 07:59 | francharb | hello everyone |
| 08:00 | kf | hi francharb :) |
| 08:36 | DONE! | |
| 08:42 | magnuse | woohoo!!!!!! |
| 08:46 | looks like danish, french, german, italianand spanish are the most diligent translators | |
| 09:23 | kf | :) |
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| 09:37 | vfernandes | hi koha commnunity |
| 09:38 | can anyone help me with one thing, there is any bug realted to advanced search by itemtype? | |
| 09:39 | kf | there is a new feature |
| 09:39 | to make it more flexible | |
| 09:39 | but I am not aware that it's broken | |
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| 09:41 | vfernandes | for example i have 3 itemtype: AM AM_REF and AM_RES... if i search for some subject and for AM and AM_RES, some results with AM_RES appeared |
| 09:41 | *some results with AM_REF appeared | |
| 09:42 | that means that the itemtype isn't searching by the exact word | |
| 09:42 | kf | when you searched for am and am_res - am_res appeared sounds right |
| 09:42 | ah | |
| 09:42 | am_ref | |
| 09:42 | hm that would not be cool I think | |
| 09:43 | vfernandes | maybe i need to use wrdl in that searches |
| 09:43 | magnuse | vfernandes: did you get results that had *only* am_ref? |
| 09:44 | vfernandes | let me check |
| 09:44 | magnuse | or did you get results that had am_ref *and* one of those you searched for |
| 09:45 | vfernandes | if i search for AM_RES i only get results with itemtype AM_RES |
| 09:45 | if i search for AM i will obtain results with AM, AM_RES and AM_REF | |
| 09:46 | magnuse | sounds like automatic truncation? |
| 09:46 | vfernandes | what you mean? |
| 09:48 | magnuse | if autmatic truncation is on and you search for hors you get horse and horses |
| 09:49 | vfernandes | automatic truncation is on |
| 09:49 | magnuse | check out these system preferences, if you don't know them already: QueryAutoTruncate, QueryFuzzy, QueryStemming |
| 09:49 | try turning it off and see what happens | |
| 09:49 | vfernandes | ok let me see |
| 09:51 | it's the same :/ | |
| 09:52 | magnuse | hmf |
| 09:53 | vfernandes | maybe wrdl will do the trick |
| 09:54 | magnuse | worth a try, i'm out of ideas i'm afraid |
| 09:54 | vfernandes | ok thanks magnuse and kf |
| 09:55 | hdl | hi all |
| 09:56 | kf | vfernandes: perhaps worth a bug report |
| 09:57 | vfernandes | maybe. the problem it's that AM match with AM_RES and AM_REF... |
| 09:57 | kf | hm |
| 09:58 | another idea | |
| 09:58 | perhaps it's the underscore | |
| 09:58 | it's treated as space | |
| 09:58 | magnuse | ooh, good idea |
| 09:58 | vfernandes | humm |
| 09:58 | let me check the configs of zebra | |
| 10:00 | the underscore is a breakin character and is substituted for space | |
| 10:00 | kf | so that makes sense |
| 10:00 | and gives me an diea about how to solve a problem I had yesterday :) | |
| 10:00 | yay | |
| 10:01 | vfernandes | i've removed the underscore from the lang_def of zerba and now i'm rebuild the indexes |
| 10:01 | let's see if works | |
| 10:01 | magnuse | fingers crossed! |
| 10:02 | vfernandes | yas :) |
| 10:02 | it's rebuilding 80000 records :/ | |
| 10:03 | magnuse | get some coffee! |
| 10:08 | vfernandes | good idea :) |
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| 10:11 | Schwitzd | Hi to everybody |
| 10:14 | Somebody know in with perl file are written the query that the mysql do to retourn a book | |
| 10:15 | I want to understand what koha do in the database when a book is retourned | |
| 10:18 | kf | I don't know the perl file |
| 10:19 | but I would say it adds an entry to statistics and perhaps action_logs and it moves the entry from isseus to old_issues | |
| 10:24 | Schwitzd: perldoc.koha-community.org | |
| 10:30 | Schwitzd | also something in the reserves and old_reserves |
| 10:33 | kf | for holds |
| 10:33 | if there is a hold on it the status will change to waiting if you confirm the hold, or transport status | |
| 10:34 | old_reserves should only have cancelled and returned holds | |
| 10:41 | vfernandes | kf and magnuse, removing the undescore from the lang_def didn't work |
| 10:43 | kf | ah bummer |
| 10:43 | did you remove it from all lang_defs? | |
| 10:43 | and perhaps it's also somewhere else in the config? not sure | |
| 10:44 | vfernandes | i've removed from en and fr lang_defs |
| 10:44 | kf | you could try with other itemtypes to see if it is the underscore - create am amref and check if it's still happening? |
| 10:44 | vfernandes | i'll try |
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| 11:07 | vfernandes | there is any form to obtain the exact match of one search |
| 11:08 | phr is for phrase, wrdl is for wordlist | |
| 11:22 | jcamins_away | vfernandes: phr,complete-subfield:whatever (I think) |
| 11:22 | kf | hi jcamins_away :) |
| 11:24 | jcamins_away | Hello. |
| 11:26 | vfernandes | what means ext? |
| 11:26 | except? | |
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| 11:28 | jcamins_away | vfernandes: I don't recall. |
| 11:30 | kf | extinct? |
| 11:30 | only guessing | |
| 11:30 | hehe looking up the word... probably not :) | |
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| 11:32 | vfernandes | the problem with itemtypes is driving me crazy :) |
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| 12:14 | Danielle | \o |
| 12:18 | magnuse | o/ |
| 12:23 | oleonard | My 8-year-old's teacher sends out email newsletters to parents with no subject, no body, only an attachment entitled "USE THIS NEWSLETTER.doc." |
| 12:23 | I guess my daughter won't be learning how to email from her teacher. | |
| 12:25 | But hey, kids don't email anymore do they? Or so I'm told. | |
| 12:25 | magnuse | tee hee |
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| 12:37 | magnuse | he was earlier, but not now |
| 12:37 | oops | |
| 12:38 | kf | hehe |
| 12:38 | asaurat | email = old school |
| 12:39 | oleonard | I wonder if these kids who think email is old school will start using it once they have jobs. |
| 12:40 | asaurat | they will probably use some intranet facebook clones =) |
| 12:40 | oleonard | Google+ coming soon to Google Apps users :) |
| 12:40 | magnuse | or sms |
| 12:41 | kf | scary |
| 12:42 | magnuse | or mms, for attachments |
| 12:42 | asaurat | actually we're talking about 15 years from now... it will be either something very hi-tech we can't even think about yet, or some kind of new poney express after the 2nd Great Depression :D |
| 12:42 | magnuse | parchment scrolls ;-) |
| 12:45 | kf | wax tables? |
| 12:46 | magnuse | ooh, that sounds great for re-use |
| 12:47 | asaurat | but not very compatible with the Global Warming App |
| 12:47 | magnuse | hehe, better keep 'em in the fridge! |
| 12:47 | oleonard | I think you mean a cool wet sack magnuse, it's the fridge of the future. |
| 12:47 | asaurat | ie : in a cave :D |
| 12:49 | magnuse | ah, sorry |
| 12:51 | kf | hehe |
| 12:51 | now that's friday talk! | |
| 12:51 | * kf | gets out the bowl of cookies |
| 12:51 | kf | magnuse: perhaps clay? |
| 12:51 | asaurat | cookies!! |
| 12:51 | wahanui | Cookies are delicious delicacies |
| 12:52 | magnuse | yeah, this sort of feels like friday... |
| 12:54 | nengard | magnuse it IS friday! :) |
| 12:55 | magnuse | ah, that explains a lot! |
| 12:55 | nengard | :) |
| 12:56 | oleonard | It's even Friday for rangi :P |
| 12:56 | magnuse | hehe |
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| 12:59 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
| 12:59 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 5.0°C (2:50 PM CEST on October 21, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Rising). |
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| 13:01 | kf | item data? |
| 13:01 | holdings? | |
| 13:01 | items table? | |
| 13:01 | magnuse | happy birthday, hdl!!! |
| 13:01 | kf | yes, alles Gute zum Geburtstag, hdl! |
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| 13:22 | magnuse | kia ora sekjal |
| 13:23 | sekjal | kia ora, magnuse |
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| 13:33 | libsysguy | morning #koha |
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| 13:34 | libsysguy | sekjal I was thinking about starting a branch on my github for notifications…what are you thoughts on that? |
| 13:35 | Oak | ... |
| 13:35 | sekjal | libsysguy: that would be a good way to make your work public |
| 13:35 | but I think more spec work needs to be done | |
| 13:36 | oleonard | Uh oh... why is this account suspended for X days when I don't have any suspension in days amount specified? |
| 13:37 | libsysguy | I think so too. I was hoping that after the 3.6 release we could pick it back up…and with a public repo everybody could work on it…unless koha already has something more official already in place |
| 13:37 | oleonard | "Patron has had overdue items and is blocked for 43 day(s)" |
| 13:37 | Can you cancel a patron's suspension? | |
| 13:38 | paul_p? | |
| 13:38 | libsysguy | are they debarred or suspended? |
| 13:38 | paul_p | hello oleonard |
| 13:38 | * paul_p | reading logs... |
| 13:39 | paul_p | oleonard: yes, you can. Just undebar it, and that should be enough |
| 13:39 | (why it has been suspended is another question...) | |
| 13:39 | if there is a debarment date => he's debarred. If no date => not debarred | |
| 13:40 | oleonard | paul_p: The account is not debarred |
| 13:40 | ...but I get the above message when I try to check out | |
| 13:40 | libsysguy | oh so it is the algorithm version of suspension not the database version |
| 13:40 | paul_p | ??? why/how can you say that ? (he's not debarred) |
| 13:41 | sekjal | oleonard: sounds he's got overdues (or had them), and somehow a rule in your DB is triggering some value of suspension in days |
| 13:42 | oleonard | I did have fines, and just wrote them off |
| 13:48 | libsysguy | when you checkin via dropbox mode for an item that would be overdue should you still get a warning message that the item is overdue |
| 13:48 | I get one and I don't think it should be there | |
| 13:54 | oleonard | C4::Members::IsMemberBlocked is returning the "43" for my patron's borrowernumber |
| 13:54 | libsysguy | actually I feel like this is an inherent issue after tracing the code…if anybody could verify I'd be forever in their debt |
| 13:55 | jcamins | oleonard: it's an off-by-one error. |
| 13:55 | oleonard | ? |
| 13:56 | jcamins | oleonard: the answer is 42, naturally. ;) |
| 13:56 | oleonard | :P |
| 13:56 | libsysguy | clever jcamins |
| 13:57 | oleonard: what function is calling IsMemberBlocked? | |
| 13:57 | oleonard | Circulation::CanBookBeIssued |
| 13:58 | sekjal | IsMemberBlocked checks for finedays IS NOT NULL |
| 13:58 | oleonard | ...and it's 0. |
| 13:58 | sekjal | so, if you have finedays = 0 in any of your rules, it'll trigger |
| 13:58 | libsysguy | wow thats brilliant |
| 13:59 | sekjal | so, in that case, it'll just take the date difference between the returndate, and the current date |
| 14:00 | which means it would grow to 44 tomorrow | |
| 14:00 | and so on | |
| 14:00 | that's.... bad | |
| 14:00 | libsysguy | ^^ |
| 14:00 | oleonard | And you can't set finedays to null when editing an issuing rule |
| 14:00 | libsysguy | so we could change that check or null or 0 |
| 14:00 | and it would fix your issue right | |
| 14:00 | sekjal | yes, that's the fix |
| 14:00 | one more line to the SQL | |
| 14:01 | "AND finedays != 0" | |
| 14:01 | libsysguy | shouldn't that make it into 3.6? |
| 14:01 | sekjal | that's up to rangi |
| 14:01 | libsysguy | that seems pretty important |
| 14:01 | but yeah you're right | |
| 14:01 | sekjal | but it seems like a critical to me |
| 14:01 | and it's a one-line fix | |
| 14:02 | who wants to write up the bug report? | |
| 14:02 | libsysguy | exactly…and easily verified |
| 14:02 | oleonard | sekjal: Can we not just change WHERE finedays IS NOT NULL to WHERE finedays !=0 ? |
| 14:02 | sekjal | oleonard: then NULLs would catch |
| 14:02 | oleonard | Right, duh. |
| 14:02 | libsysguy | !=0 wouldn't check for nuls |
| 14:02 | ^^ | |
| 14:02 | sekjal | and since it's used in multiplication, I don't know if it would throw an even bigger error |
| 14:03 | is multiplying by NULL in MySQL the same as by 0? | |
| 14:03 | libsysguy | i think *NULL = NULL |
| 14:03 | if i remember from my database class a year ago…but that was oracle not mysql | |
| 14:04 | jcamins | 50 * NULL = NULL |
| 14:04 | sekjal | okay, so next question: ADDDATE(returndate, NULL) gives what? |
| 14:05 | jcamins | What's the value of returndate? |
| 14:05 | libsysguy | why on earth would you do that? |
| 14:05 | sekjal | libsysguy: that's the query for IsMemberBlocked |
| 14:05 | DATEDIFF(ADDDATE(returndate, finedays * DATEDIFF(returndate,date_due)),NOW()) AS blockedcount | |
| 14:05 | oleonard | select ADDDATE('2011-02-11',NULL); returns NULL |
| 14:05 | libsysguy | o_0... |
| 14:07 | sekjal | okay, and datediff(null, now()) is null, too |
| 14:07 | oleonard | I'll submit a bug if no one has already |
| 14:07 | sekjal | thanks, oleonard |
| 14:08 | oleonard | I can submit the patch too if there's not more to work out |
| 14:08 | sekjal | I think we change the condition to "WHERE finedays > 0", and that should exclude both 0 and NULL |
| 14:08 | even though we seem to have verified that NULL is a safe value | |
| 14:09 | jcamins | sekjal: and negative numbers don't have a magic meaning? |
| 14:09 | sekjal | jcamins: no special meaning |
| 14:09 | but I am curious what that'd do.... | |
| 14:10 | it'd subtract from the return date instead of add | |
| 14:11 | hdl | thanks magnuse and kf |
| 14:11 | magnuse | yay! |
| 14:16 | oleonard | Bug 7075 |
| 14:16 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7075 critical, P5, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , Fine in days values are returned for patrons with past overdues when fine in days is set to 0 |
| 14:16 | libsysguy | no |
| 14:16 | oops wrong window :-\ | |
| 14:16 | sekjal | lol |
| 14:16 | libsysguy | I hate it when that happens |
| 14:17 | at least I didn't say something embarrassing | |
| 14:17 | sekjal | it made some kind of sense, in context... |
| 14:17 | * sekjal | may be a little loopy from the last few weeks |
| 14:19 | oleonard | So what's your opinion sekjal, submit that one-line change? |
| 14:19 | sekjal | yes, change the test from "is not null" to "> 0", and we should be all set |
| 14:19 | wahanui | sekjal: that doesn't look right |
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| 14:20 | * sekjal | wonders if he has acquired the power to boot bots that disagree with him |
| 14:20 | jcamins | sekjal: it's "change" |
| 14:20 | change something | |
| 14:20 | wahanui | jcamins: that doesn't look right |
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| 14:20 | sekjal | awesome! |
| 14:21 | wizzyrea | always the skeptic |
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| 14:35 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7075] Fine in days values are returned for patrons with past overdues when fine in days is set to 0 <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7075> |
| 14:36 | slef | change wahanui for a bot that doesn't crash? |
| 14:36 | wahanui | slef: that doesn't look right |
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| 14:36 | * oleonard | gives wahanui an ice pack for his head |
| 14:38 | oleonard | Hmmm.... So now I can edit other patrons' public lists |
| 14:38 | ...in the staff client | |
| 14:38 | wizzyrea | ! |
| 14:38 | wait, a patron can log into the staff client without staff permissions? | |
| 14:39 | oleonard | That's not what I'm saying |
| 14:39 | wizzyrea | oh, thank heavens. |
| 14:41 | libsysguy | would anyone be opposed to me adding a check for dropbox mode in AddReturn to see if an issue is overdue |
| 14:41 | right now there is one…kind of…but the check doesn't actually change the warning message | |
| 14:41 | oleonard | Looks like it might be a superlibrarian thing wizzyrea |
| 14:41 | wizzyrea | ah, well that makes a certain amount of sense |
| 14:42 | oleonard | Yeah, something I've wanted (at least to the extent of making public lists private), but I don't think getting it via an unknown bug is the right way! |
| 14:42 | slef | libsysguy: do what to the warning message? |
| 14:43 | libsysguy | well if i check an item in that is overdue…but select dropbox mode…making it no longer overdue….i still get a warning about it being overdue |
| 14:43 | wizzyrea | that's a bug, imo |
| 14:43 | and should be fixed :P | |
| 14:43 | libsysguy | because Circulation::GetItemIssue never checks to see if its in dropbox mode |
| 14:44 | i only stumbled across it because im calculating fines on checkin | |
| 14:44 | wizzyrea | sounds like it's supposed to do it, it doesn't, you have a fix, go for it |
| 14:45 | libsysguy | the only problem is…if i fix it…it won't be compatible with master…no hourly yet and this all relies on datetime |
| 14:45 | :-\ | |
| 14:45 | wizzyrea | ah |
| 14:46 | libsysguy | I suppose i can fix it in my production and then push it when master gets hourly |
| 14:55 | sekjal | hey, everyone, just a heads up: I broke returns on current master |
| 14:55 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7060] All instances of GetMemberDetails are unnecessary in C4::Circulation <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7060> |
| 14:55 | sekjal | ^^ |
| 14:56 | fix submitted, but I just wanted to own up and apologize now | |
| 14:56 | wizzyrea | oh that's a bit terrifying |
| 14:56 | libsysguy | its ok sekjal I haven't updated so I can easily forgive you |
| 14:57 | sekjal | yeah, anyone who is running the code base from yesterday (or maybe even the day before) cannot return materials if they're checked out to a person with any kind of permissions |
| 14:57 | libsysguy | can you let me know when that patch gets merged |
| 14:57 | sekjal | libsysguy: sure thing |
| 14:58 | libsysguy | gracias sir |
| 14:58 | sekjal | this is what I get for coding in a bar late at night |
| 14:58 | oleonard | "Can't use string ("1") as a HASH ref while "strict refs" in use at /home/oleonard/kohaclone/circ/returns.pl line 479" ? |
| 14:58 | * sekjal | shakes head in personal disappointment |
| 14:58 | sekjal | oleonard: yup, that's the error |
| 14:58 | libsysguy | you were coding in a BAR?!? |
| 14:59 | like a boss | |
| 14:59 | oleonard | codabar |
| 14:59 | sekjal | I've been on a mission to make Koha more efficient |
| 15:00 | got over-confident | |
| 15:00 | kf | ohoh |
| 15:00 | wizzyrea | bugs happen |
| 15:00 | kf | yep |
| 15:00 | don't let it break your misson | |
| 15:01 | wizzyrea | ^^ |
| 15:01 | rangi | yep its a good mission |
| 15:02 | fredericd++ # po files ready to pull | |
| 15:03 | ill pull that fix now, its interetsting the unit tests didnt catch it | |
| 15:03 | theres something to fix | |
| 15:05 | sekjal | rangi: the root of the issue is that $borrower->{flags} means two different things, depending on whether its a GetMember $borrower or a GetMemberDetails $borrower |
| 15:05 | for GetMember, it's the value of borrowers.flags, which contains permissions | |
| 15:05 | for GetMemberDetails, its a hashref of messages about things like "gone no address", "overdues", etc | |
| 15:05 | oleonard | The patch works for me, FWIW |
| 15:06 | reiveune1 | by |
| 15:06 | bye | |
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| 15:07 | rangi | yep, patch works for me |
| 15:07 | pushing | |
| 15:08 | sekjal | thanks, rangi |
| 15:08 | sorry again, everyone | |
| 15:08 | oleonard | rangi, did you see our discussion of Bug 7075? |
| 15:08 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7075 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Fine in days values are returned for patrons with past overdues when fine in days is set to 0 |
| 15:10 | rangi | ahhh yes |
| 15:11 | that needs to be pushed | |
| 15:12 | sekjal do you have a chance to test that? i have to go eat breakfast but should be able to push that after then | |
| 15:12 | it seems fine to me | |
| 15:14 | * rangi | wanders off, back soon |
| 15:14 | sekjal | rangi: I've tried to reproduce the error, but haven't succeeded yet |
| 15:14 | rangi | ahhh |
| 15:17 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'kc/new/bug_7060' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]aaac52cd31a1a200d> / Bug 7060 Followup: AddReturn needs GetMemberDetails <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]368be33d97f76e509> |
| 15:18 | magnuse | have fun, #koha |
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| 15:24 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 502 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #491 2 j 12 h ago) |
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| 15:30 | sekjal | oleonard: I cannot reproduce the error from 7075 |
| 15:30 | oleonard | Hmmm... Okay. Strange edge case? I'll take a look at my data. |
| 15:36 | sekjal | yeah, my blockedcount value comes back as -20 (since I set the return date to 20 days ago), which does not trigger the IsMemberBlocked return value |
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| 15:45 | rangi | back |
| 15:46 | * sekjal | offers up a speed improve for staff-side lists as an apology for 7060 |
| 15:46 | sekjal | bug 7076 |
| 15:46 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7076 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, ian.walls, NEW , shelfpage renders OPAC XSLT bloc for intranet Lists |
| 15:49 | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7076] shelfpage renders OPAC XSLT bloc for intranet Lists <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7076> | |
| 15:49 | rangi | sekjal: i probably will leave that for 3.6.1 |
| 15:49 | sekjal | rangi: totally cool |
| 15:49 | just wanted to do it, really | |
| 15:50 | rangi | im planning to just test and push the languages today, and write release notes |
| 15:50 | cool :) | |
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| 15:58 | oleonard | Okay, so 7075 is a very strange edge case indeed. Off the edge and into the next block. |
| 15:59 | I had a returndate in old_issues which was two months in the future (manually set when testing another bug) | |
| 15:59 | I'm confused about how that caused the bug, but that's my guess. | |
| 16:00 | wizzyrea | bug 7075 |
| 16:00 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7075 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Fine in days values are returned for patrons with past overdues when fine in days is set to 0 |
| 16:00 | oleonard | sekjal: ^^ |
| 16:00 | sekjal | wow |
| 16:00 | that would do it | |
| 16:05 | oleonard | So the bug is technically valid, but never reproduceable in the wild |
| 16:06 | * jcamins | takes that bet, and waits patiently. |
| 16:06 | libsysguy | haha whats the buy in for that? |
| 16:06 | rangi | :) |
| 16:06 | libsysguy | 20 koha karma pts |
| 16:06 | wizzyrea | that's a lot of "--" |
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| 16:12 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #502: STILL UNSTABLE in 48 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/502/ |
| 16:12 | ian.walls: Bug 7060 Followup: AddReturn needs GetMemberDetails | |
| 16:12 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7060 blocker, PATCH-Sent, ---, ian.walls, NEW , All instances of GetMemberDetails are unnecessary in C4::Circulation |
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| 16:39 | rangi | po files updated |
| 16:39 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 503 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #491 2 j 13 h ago) |
| 16:47 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Moving po files to 3.6.0 filenames <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]46da714dca962a8ee> / Merge remote-tracking branch 'tamil/3.6.0-translation' into new_po <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]330c5761f7893725f> / 3.6.0 Translations update <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]=019173ad50dc1872 |
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| 17:06 | fcapo | I added a follow-up patch for Bug 6977 . I've found a bug on the patch that was pushed. |
| 17:06 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6977 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, fcapovilla, ASSIGNED , Support for repeated subfields when importing an authority into a biblio record field. |
| 17:27 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #503: STILL UNSTABLE in 48 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/503/ |
| 17:27 | * f.demians: 3.6.0 Translations update | |
| 17:27 | * Chris Cormack: Moving po files to 3.6.0 filenames | |
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| 17:39 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 504 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #491 2 j 14 h ago) |
| 17:39 | sekjal | doing a fresh install of latest master on Debian 6 |
| 17:40 | the install_misc/debian.packages left 30 modules uninstalled | |
| 17:40 | does that seem high? | |
| 17:40 | jcamins | sekjal: it seems to me that we don't use debian.packages. |
| 17:40 | sekjal | ah, then the install docs for debian need to be updated |
| 17:41 | jcamins | They say to use that? |
| 17:41 | sekjal | yes, step 1.4 |
| 17:42 | rangi | hmm there was a patch for it |
| 17:42 | jcamins | Hm. |
| 17:42 | rangi | just recently |
| 17:42 | if you can find it and test it | |
| 17:42 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'kc/new/bug_5995' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]270b31304d8e13ee5> / Bug 5995 Follow up: variable scope in koha/sco/sco-main.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d39a5a0f414fdf6a3> |
| 17:42 | rangi | im happy to push it |
| 17:42 | jcamins | I sent a patch in a few months ago making the installation instructions accurate. |
| 17:42 | rangi | if you can find that too :) |
| 17:43 | but there was one updated the packages file too | |
| 17:43 | jcamins | rangi: my patch was pushed. |
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| 17:43 | rangi | cool |
| 17:44 | sekjal | been a while since I've done a fresh install. what's the preferred method for getting all the debian packages possible? |
| 17:45 | jcamins | sekjal: I had made the installation script do everything, but that was a while ago. |
| 17:46 | Long enough that I don't remember the name of the script. | |
| 17:46 | sekjal | bug 7063 |
| 17:46 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7063 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Add available perl packages for Debian in install_misc/debian.packages |
| 17:46 | rangi | that one |
| 17:47 | sekjal | checking it now... looks to cover most of the missing ones |
| 17:48 | jcamins | rangi: do you know if eythian has made sure that the packages pull everything in? |
| 17:48 | rangi | yes they do |
| 17:48 | cool | |
| 17:48 | jcamins | I guess the dependencies are generated at build time, so that'll always be up-to-date. |
| 17:48 | packages++ | |
| 17:49 | eythian++ | |
| 17:49 | liw++ | |
| 17:49 | rangi | yep |
| 17:49 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6977] Support for repeated subfields when importing an authority into a biblio record field. <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6977> |
| 17:51 | sekjal | patch for 7063 does all except: CGI::Session::Driver::memcached, Gravatar::URL, and UNIVERSAL::Require |
| 17:52 | rangi | cool |
| 17:52 | sekjal | I'm also still getting koha_perl_deps.pl saying HTML::Template::Pro is a requirement |
| 17:52 | rangi | ahh yeah thats worth fixing too |
| 17:53 | cait | what's the plan for tonight? |
| 17:53 | sekjal | going to install the patch, and continue testing. will sign off if it makes life better |
| 17:53 | rangi | thanks |
| 17:54 | cait | I am going to test translations |
| 17:54 | sekjal | ah.... patch isn't actually a patch :( |
| 17:57 | cait | hm? |
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| 18:12 | sekjal | okay, I can get install_misc/debian.packages to do all but 2 of the dependecies |
| 18:13 | not sure if Gravatar::URL or CGI::Sessions::Driver::memcached are even packaged... | |
| 18:14 | Oak | cait++ |
| 18:15 | cait | Oak? |
| 18:15 | wahanui | well, Oak is Arslan. I am a student doing masters in Library Science (2nd semester). I am a web developer and work in Joomla. |
| 18:15 | sekjal | Gravatar::URL is |
| 18:15 | adding to patch | |
| 18:15 | CGI::Session::Driver::memcached is only in sid and wheezy | |
| 18:15 | Oak | no reason |
| 18:15 | :) | |
| 18:16 | i think you have been translating words all day, that's why | |
| 18:17 | cait | only in the morning, but was long enough :) |
| 18:17 | Oak | hmm |
| 18:27 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #504: STILL UNSTABLE in 48 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/504/ |
| 18:27 | ian.walls: Bug 5995 Follow up: variable scope in koha/sco/sco-main.pl | |
| 18:27 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5995 blocker, PATCH-Sent, ---, matthias.meusburger, ASSIGNED , Glitch with checkauth |
| 18:35 | sekjal | rangi: bug 7063 has attachment to get us all but one of the debian packages in the install_misc/debian.packages file |
| 18:35 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7063 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Add available perl packages for Debian in install_misc/debian.packages |
| 18:35 | sekjal | very encouraging |
| 18:36 | rangi | cool excellent |
| 18:36 | thanks | |
| 18:37 | sekjal | working on removing HTML::Template::Pro false positive in PerlDependencies |
| 18:38 | rangi | thanks |
| 18:39 | im about halfway through writing the release notes | |
| 18:40 | oleonard | Be sure to include the part where huginn chugged a while bottle of yellow mustard just because wahanui dared him. |
| 18:40 | rangi | heh |
| 18:45 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7063] Add available perl packages for Debian in install_misc/debian.packages <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7063> / [Bug 7078] HTML::Template::Pro still listed as Koha dependency <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7078> |
| 18:57 | Danielle | \o |
| 19:04 | cait | hi Danielle and yay :) |
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| 19:08 | Danielle | cait: Thanks. I just gave my verbal acceptance of the offer. :) |
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| 19:10 | Danielle | I'm not giving notice yet as there are still background check, references, and drug test to be done. |
| 19:11 | cait | a drug test? |
| 19:11 | what kind of job is that? | |
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| 19:17 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7077] Add system pref to control behavior of submitting empty barcode field on circulation page <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7077> |
| 19:18 | cait | owen is already working on 3.8 :) |
| 19:18 | rangi | heh |
| 19:19 | oleonard | Hey, what else am I gonna do? |
| 19:19 | cait | I think it's great :) |
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| 19:21 | Danielle | cait: Unfortunately, it's fairly common here. |
| 19:21 | cait | hm ok |
| 19:22 | * Danielle | isn't fond of it but not being independently wealthy or even close to that... |
| 19:23 | cait | I had to get a police report oncen, when i was working a summer job for the german post |
| 19:23 | hm, if that is a correct translation | |
| 19:23 | you know, letters, packages, post cards... | |
| 19:23 | not supposed to steal or open those :) | |
| 19:24 | fredericd: around? | |
| 19:25 | Danielle | cait: Post made sense to me. |
| 19:25 | cait | ok |
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| 19:41 | druthb | o/ |
| 19:41 | Good afternoon, #koha! Please meet my daughter Lindsey! :) | |
| 19:41 | oleonard | Hi lindseydb |
| 19:41 | lindseydb | Hello. ^^ |
| 19:42 | jcamins | Hi lindseydb! |
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| 19:43 | druthb | wahanui: bg? |
| 19:43 | wahanui | I LIKE BREAKFAST BURRITOS AND I LOVE BASEBALL |
| 19:44 | druthb | wahanui: druthb? |
| 19:44 | wahanui | somebody said druthb was a travelin' woman. |
| 19:44 | jcamins | First mother-daughter Koha-hacking team? |
| 19:44 | druthb | I'm hoping so, jcamins! |
| 19:44 | wahanui: lindseydb is druthb's finest achievement | |
| 19:44 | wahanui | OK, druthb. |
| 19:44 | lindseydb | I haven't started yet. >.< We're working on that. |
| 19:44 | druthb | lindseydb? |
| 19:44 | wahanui | lindseydb is your finest achievement |
| 19:45 | cait | hi lindseydb :) |
| 19:45 | lindseydb | Hello, cait. :D |
| 19:46 | cait | what are you 2 up to? |
| 19:46 | druthb | mischief. |
| 19:46 | also showing lindsey how she can keep in touch with me whilst I'm in India. | |
| 19:46 | cait | ah, so only the every day stuff |
| 19:46 | druthb | yis. |
| 19:47 | * oleonard | waves Happy Weekend to everyone |
| 19:47 | druthb | Also, hoping she'll want to join our merry band, and start hacking on Koha. |
| 19:48 | jcamins | And indeed, who wouldn't? |
| 19:48 | druthb | Since she just absconded with my copy of _Learning_Perl_, I have hope. |
| 19:49 | cait | she is probably going to finish it before I do |
| 19:49 | lindseydb | I think this book would make a good weapon, as it is quite hefty. O-o |
| 19:50 | cait | my 'java is also an island' book is a weapon |
| 19:50 | druthb | lindseydb: cait is proof that you don't have to finish that book to be a super Koha developer. |
| 19:50 | cait | lol :P |
| 19:50 | yeah guessing around can work too | |
| 19:50 | only takes longer | |
| 19:51 | jcamins | "Java is also an island" book? |
| 19:51 | Heh. | |
| 19:51 | lindseydb | Well, I don't really speak computer, either. o.o So I think I'll stick to the book for now. |
| 19:52 | * druthb | is gonna set up a VM, and make a copy, in case it gets broken. :) |
| 19:52 | liw | luckily programming is easy, you just need to master the imperative and the conditional |
| 19:52 | druthb | liw++ |
| 19:52 | jcamins | Or, if you prefer the elegance of the lightsaber, parentheses. |
| 19:53 | lindseydb | I like both lightsabers and parentheses. Guess I'll be good at this then. |
| 19:53 | druthb | I'm hoping lindseydb learns to code before wizzyrea's spud does. |
| 19:54 | cait | hehe |
| 19:54 | i think she will manage | |
| 19:54 | druthb | Given that she's nearly 19, and he's 3...there is hope. |
| 19:54 | Danielle | hehe |
| 19:55 | wizzyrea | whaddup linds :) |
| 19:55 | give the captain a tickle for me | |
| 19:55 | well, more from spud | |
| 19:56 | lindseydb | Hello, wizzyrea. And I will tonight, once he starts using me as a bed agian. |
| 19:56 | ^^ | |
| 19:56 | wizzyrea | hehe |
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| 20:18 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Updating distro specific install files <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]1af305bb717e34822> / Updating main INSTALL instructions <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2ae1679ce69e25240> / Bug 7078: Remove HTML::Template::Pro from Koha perl dependencies list <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]t;a=commitdiff;h= |
| 20:23 | sekjal | rangi: did a fresh install of Koha on Debian Squeeze, following the INSTALL.debian instructions. system is standing up and running demo data just fine |
| 20:23 | cait | translations seem ok to me |
| 20:24 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 505 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #491 2 j 17 h ago) |
| 20:25 | jcamins | Has jenkins switched to French? |
| 20:25 | ("2 j") | |
| 20:32 | rangi | sweet thank you |
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| 21:12 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #505: STILL UNSTABLE in 48 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/505/ |
| 21:12 | * ian.walls: Bug 7063: add available perl packages for Debian in install_misc/debian.packages | |
| 21:12 | * ian.walls: Bug 7078: Remove HTML::Template::Pro from Koha perl dependencies list | |
| 21:12 | * Chris Cormack: Updating main INSTALL instructions | |
| 21:12 | * Chris Cormack: Updating distro specific install files | |
| 21:12 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7063 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Add available perl packages for Debian in install_misc/debian.packages |
| 21:12 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7078 trivial, PATCH-Sent, ---, ian.walls, NEW , HTML::Template::Pro still listed as Koha dependency | |
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| 21:30 | rangi | anyone got time to test my tarball? |
| 21:31 | wizzyrea | you mean make sure it untars correctly? |
| 21:31 | rangi | and that an install works |
| 21:31 | * wizzyrea | really wanted to make a dirty joke there. |
| 21:31 | rangi | hehe |
| 21:32 | wizzyrea | gah I have a couple of things I *must* do, but then I can |
| 21:32 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Updating version number for release <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]4b2c8a2431589ac0c> / Release notes for 3.6.0 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]4e5b8994657f58d8d> |
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| 21:39 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 506 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #491 2 j 18 h ago) |
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| 22:27 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #506: STILL UNSTABLE in 47 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/506/ |
| 22:27 | * Chris Cormack: Release notes for 3.6.0 | |
| 22:27 | * Chris Cormack: Updating version number for release | |
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