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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 00:00 | eythian | It reduces typos, bundles a bunch of information together in one place, and allows it to be updated centrally. |
| 00:00 | lastnode | gotcha. so is there any way i can generaet authorities from teh records i already have in the db |
| 00:00 | or do i have to do it manually? | |
| 00:01 | eythian | I don't know, tbh. I wouldn't be surprised to find there's a way to do it. |
| 00:01 | rangi | id check they dont have them first |
| 00:01 | if you have the syspref it will be creating them for you when you save | |
| 00:01 | lastnode | what is the syspref? |
| 00:01 | rangi | cant remember |
| 00:01 | go look for one around authorities ;) | |
| 00:01 | eythian | BiblioAddsAuthorities |
| 00:01 | wahanui | well, BiblioAddsAuthorities is a syspref, under Authorities |
| 00:02 | lastnode | it is set to Dont allow by default? |
| 00:02 | eythian | no wahanui, BiblioAddsAuthorities is a syspref that lets authorities be created automagically when you add a record. |
| 00:02 | wahanui | okay, eythian. |
| 00:02 | lastnode | bc i didnt change that syspref. |
| 00:02 | eythian | Have a look to see what it's set to now, and you'll know. |
| 00:03 | lastnode | it's set to dont allow |
| 00:03 | :( | |
| 00:03 | eythian | (I think it's off by default, but I never trust anyone who says "I didn't touch that!" :) |
| 00:03 | lastnode | haha |
| 00:03 | ok so now that i have 100+ records with no authorities added | |
| 00:03 | will turning this on and editing all of them, add authorities? | |
| 00:03 | rangi | youve done an authority search eh |
| 00:03 | and tested that they dont exist? | |
| 00:04 | lastnode | yes rangi |
| 00:04 | im searching for author names | |
| 00:06 | so eythian BiblioAddsAuthorities ive set it to allow | |
| 00:06 | will editing the records i have auto add records now?that seems to be what this option does, but just watn to make sure | |
| 00:06 | eythian | I don't know for sure, but it seems plausible. |
| 00:06 | rangi | dunno if it does on edit |
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| 00:06 | rangi | try it and see |
| 00:07 | lastnode | k done |
| 00:07 | * lastnode | waits for the zebra_rebuild |
| 00:09 | eythian | http://www.downforeveryoneorju[…]oha-community.org :< |
| 00:09 | rangi | hmm it was up this morning i was pushing to it |
| 00:10 | the mirror is up to date | |
| 00:10 | eythian | so, you broke it then? |
| 00:10 | rangi | naw i think its a vm thats pants |
| 00:11 | http://repo.or.cz/w/koha.git | |
| 00:11 | all up to date | |
| 00:11 | jcamins | I think it's probably time for ByWater to upgrade that server. It's been down an awful lot lately. |
| 00:12 | rangi | seems to lock up hard |
| 00:12 | like i can ssh to it hard | |
| 00:12 | can=cant | |
| 00:12 | i wonder if something is dossing it | |
| 00:13 | or making it go OOM some other way | |
| 00:13 | jcamins | Could be. |
| 00:14 | Shari's home, with tomato sauce, so it's time for pizza! | |
| 00:14 | Good night, #koha | |
| 00:14 | rangi | cya jcamins_away |
| 00:14 | eythian | cya |
| 00:14 | I wonder if it's possible to point a URL to gitorius. That would also give us the features it has, too. | |
| 00:15 | rangi | its easy enough to set up a cron to mirror on gitorious |
| 00:15 | i did it for months | |
| 00:15 | https://gitorious.org/koha | |
| 00:17 | i could start that going again | |
| 00:18 | https://gitorious.org/koha/mai[…]ne/commits/master stopped in about june | |
| 00:18 | lastnode | yes, friends, that administrative setting did it |
| 00:19 | is tehre anyway to automate the edit of 100 records so authorities are added? | |
| 00:20 | rangi | probably, but would involve some coding |
| 00:20 | lastnode | also, apart from personal name, are there other authorities i should be worried about? |
| 00:21 | rangi | subjects |
| 00:21 | and genres | |
| 00:21 | lastnode | ok |
| 00:21 | let's hope those are imported now as well | |
| 00:22 | * lastnode | edits harry potter and the philosopher's stone and waits for zebra to do its thing |
| 00:22 | lastnode | rangi: if you dont mind, could you refresh my memory (i asked this question before). to restore a koha-dumped sql/tar file, do i need to koha-create first? |
| 00:22 | rangi | dunno |
| 00:23 | lastnode | say i have exported teh 'foobar' koha install from one server. to createit on the other |
| 00:23 | do i need to koha-create foobar then koha-restore foobar.sql.gz foobar.tar.gz | |
| 00:23 | rangi | dunno |
| 00:24 | lastnode | hrm, ok |
| 00:24 | i recall you knowing the procedure, maybe im mistaken. my bad :) | |
| 00:24 | rangi | i suspect not |
| 00:24 | i think you only need to create if you are just restoring the db | |
| 00:24 | eythian | lastnode: no |
| 00:24 | rangi | from a mysqldump |
| 00:24 | eythian | koha-restore I think will do the create for you |
| 00:25 | lastnode | ok |
| 00:25 | thank you | |
| 00:26 | i have to move koha from my vps to a school server bc school decided they dont want to pay for a vps | |
| 00:27 | thus koha will only be accesible on LAN, but nvm, baby steps :) | |
| 00:27 | eythian | :) |
| 00:28 | lastnode | how often does zebra-rebuild run by default? (cron) |
| 00:28 | eythian | 15 minutes |
| 00:28 | lastnode | gotcha |
| 00:30 | eythian: next to personal name, what does the RLIN field do? | |
| 00:31 | eythian | I think it's the field that holds a reference to the actual authority record, or something along those lines. |
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| 00:37 | lastnode | hmm editing records dont seem to be adding authorities now, posibly due to RLINvalue conflict, though im not being given an error. ive rebuilt zebra but the authorities of teh recrods i edited still dont show |
| 00:37 | * lastnode | waits for the cron to run anyway |
| 00:37 | lastnode | i used koha-rebuild-zebra |
| 00:38 | eythian | if you run it with -v it tells you more about what's happening. |
| 00:39 | lastnode | eythian: think i need the full path? koha-rebuild-zebra -v gave me nothing |
| 00:39 | eythian | what about with --full |
| 00:39 | it'll only do something if there's something to do | |
| 00:46 | lastnode | eythian: so the authorities (personal name) are added for some records when i edit, and for others no. even though all of the ones im editing have Personal Name |
| 00:46 | any idea why? | |
| 00:46 | robert jordan got added twice, for one biblio item | |
| 00:51 | ok it looks like koha-rebuild wasnt just rebuilding for me | |
| 00:51 | the cron did it | |
| 00:59 | thanks eythian rangi | |
| 00:59 | eythian++ | |
| 00:59 | rangi++ | |
| 01:26 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5533] marking item lost diff in two places <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5533> |
| 02:13 | rangi | hmm bug 6891 |
| 02:13 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6891 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , LDIF interoperability - a proposal |
| 02:25 | eythian | initial India visa form filled out. That was a terrible task. |
| 02:25 | rangi | sekjal++ |
| 02:25 | http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/ | |
| 02:25 | im assuming it was he | |
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| 03:06 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6679 : fix 3 perl::critic warnings <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f873395f5d60c063c> / Bug 6679 Followup for acqui/histsearch.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]3241c1fe21e7bd5ab> / Bug 6679 Fix scripts in admin & acqui to pass Perl::Critic <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]commitdiff;h=7cde |
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| 03:07 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 47 for job Koha_3.4.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 03:08 | Starting build 418 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED) | |
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| 03:50 | rangi | i love git diff word-diff=color |
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| 03:54 | rangi | and now it works |
| 03:54 | you there bg? | |
| 03:57 | bg | I am |
| 03:57 | rangi | yay finally |
| 03:57 | :) | |
| 03:57 | bg | sweet |
| 03:57 | just in time to sleep ;) | |
| 03:57 | rangi | heh |
| 03:57 | bg | it only took them four hours to reboot the wrieless |
| 03:57 | I even told them I'd unplug it for them | |
| 03:58 | rangi | heh |
| 04:00 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6679] Fixing code so it passes basic Perl::Critic tests <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6679> |
| 04:14 | bg | AHHHH so nice to be back |
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| 04:27 | cait | good morning #koha |
| 04:27 | eythian | hi cait |
| 04:28 | cait | hi :) |
| 04:28 | rangi | hi cait |
| 04:28 | cait | and hi rangi :) |
| 04:31 | @wunder konstanz | |
| 04:31 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 6.9°C (6:29 AM CEST on September 21, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Windchill: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.19 in 1022.2 hPa (Steady). |
| 04:33 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.4.x build #47: SUCCESS in 1 h 25 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.4.x/47/ |
| 04:33 | * oleonard: Fix for Bug 6458 - incorrect parsing result in translation processing | |
| 04:33 | * oleonard: Fix for Bug 6458 - incorrect parsing result in translation processing | |
| 04:33 | * oleonard: Fix for Bug 6458 - incorrect parsing result in translation processing | |
| 04:33 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6458 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, ASSIGNED , incorrect parsing result in translation processing |
| 04:33 | jenkins_koha | * oleonard: Fix for Bug 6458 - incorrect parsing result in translation processing |
| 04:33 | * srdjan: bug_6318: Always give predefined fields drop downs on label layout edit | |
| 04:40 | Project Koha_master build #418: SUCCESS in 1 h 32 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/418/ | |
| 04:40 | * srdjan: bug_6318: Always give predefined fields drop downs on label layout edit | |
| 04:40 | * magnus: Bug 4877 [ENH] Use DocBook for koha-common manual pages | |
| 04:40 | * robin: Bug 4877 [ENH] [SIGNED-OFF] install generated man pages with build process | |
| 04:40 | * Chris Cormack: Bug 5675 : CheckReserves not honouring item level itemtypes preferences | |
| 04:40 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4877 enhancement, P4, ---, magnus, NEW , koha-* scripts have no manual pages |
| 04:40 | jenkins_koha | * oleonard: Fix for Bug 6766 - Template variable scope errors in holds template |
| 04:40 | * oleonard: Fix for Bug 6842 - Branch transfer limits broken | |
| 04:40 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5675 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, NEW , Returned items always trigger hold notification |
| 04:40 | jenkins_koha | * ian.walls: Enh 6887: Add 'checked out from' column to issued items display tables |
| 04:40 | * Chris Cormack: Bug 6679 Fix scripts in admin & acqui to pass Perl::Critic | |
| 04:40 | * f.demians: Bug 6679 Followup for acqui/histsearch.pl | |
| 04:40 | * maxime.pelletier: Bug 6679 : fix 3 perl::critic warnings | |
| 04:40 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6766 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Template variable scope errors in holds template |
| 04:40 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6842 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Branch transfer limits broken | |
| 04:40 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6679 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Fixing code so it passes basic Perl::Critic tests | |
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| 04:43 | cait | oh someone's busy :) |
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| 06:44 | cait | hi hdl |
| 06:46 | hdl1 | hi Callender |
| 06:46 | hdl | hi cait |
| 06:47 | hi all | |
| 06:47 | reiveune | hi |
| 06:47 | wahanui | hola, reiveune |
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| 07:25 | kf | good morning #koha :) |
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| 07:27 | reiveune | re-hi |
| 07:27 | kf | hi reiveune |
| 07:27 | reiveune | :) |
| 07:28 | kf | :) |
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| 07:33 | francharb | hello all |
| 07:33 | kf | hi francharb |
| 07:34 | francharb | hi kf |
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| 07:52 | kf | hi sophie_m :) |
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| 07:52 | sophie_m | Guten Morgen kf :-) |
| 07:56 | rangi | back |
| 07:58 | kf | wb rangi |
| 07:59 | rangi | thanks |
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| 09:04 | Oak | kia ora #koha |
| 09:05 | kf | |
| 09:11 | kf | hi Oak :) |
| 09:12 | Oak | :) |
| 09:56 | kf | @later tell wizzyrea: something seems to be wrong with http://koha-community.org/about/history/ - check for the smileys to see what I mean |
| 09:56 | huginn | kf: The operation succeeded. |
| 09:57 | rangi | it hasnt been updated for a while too |
| 09:58 | kf | it has double entries |
| 09:59 | rangi: is it possible to configure the standard result list for bugzilla? | |
| 09:59 | I keep adding patch status to all and every search, perhaps we could make it a defualt? | |
| 10:00 | could replace priority | |
| 10:00 | rangi | not that i know of there isnt |
| 10:00 | i removed the double entries, its still a year out of date | |
| 10:01 | kf | ok |
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| 10:05 | kf | @later tell wizzyrea: rangi repaired it but an update would be cool :) |
| 10:05 | huginn | kf: The operation succeeded. |
| 10:05 | kf | hm |
| 10:06 | @later tell wizzyrea rangi repaird it but an update would be cool :) | |
| 10:06 | huginn | kf: The operation succeeded. |
| 10:06 | rangi | you spelt it right the first time |
| 10:06 | @later tell wizzyrea kf can't spell tonight | |
| 10:06 | huginn | rangi: The operation succeeded. |
| 10:07 | kf | there was a : |
| 10:08 | was not sure if he will like that or look for a wizzyrea: | |
| 10:08 | rangi | @later tell wizzyrea and she uses excess punctuation |
| 10:08 | huginn | rangi: The operation succeeded. |
| 10:08 | kf | @later tell wizzyrea and rangi can't read :P |
| 10:08 | huginn | kf: The operation succeeded. |
| 10:08 | rangi | thats gonna confuse her in the morning ;) |
| 10:08 | kf | hehe |
| 10:08 | rangi | repaird :P |
| 10:08 | kf | oh |
| 10:09 | hmpf | |
| 10:09 | she will understand | |
| 10:09 | rangi | :) |
| 10:09 | she'll probably read the log anyway | |
| 10:12 | kf | yep and shake her head at us |
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| 11:08 | kf | @wunder Konstanz |
| 11:08 | huginn | kf: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 16.0°C (1:00 PM CEST on September 21, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.17 in 1022 hPa (Falling). |
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| 12:19 | nengard | hello #koha, i'm looking for a bug I thought I reported (that is fixed I think) where values aren't showing in the statistics wizards |
| 12:19 | oleonard | Yeah, I thought I fixed that |
| 12:20 | Bug 6640 | |
| 12:20 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6640 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Template errors in defining default variable values causes information not to be displayed |
| 12:21 | oleonard | Bug 6493 may sound more familiar |
| 12:21 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6493 normal, P5, ---, gmcharlt, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, Circulation Stats Wizard row contains no values |
| 12:27 | oleonard | nengard: I thought the point of Bug 5874 was that you were *supposed* to have reports permission to access the overdues report. |
| 12:27 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5874 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, Overdue report : Limit by date & add a new permission to restrict who can run the report |
| 12:28 | nengard | oleonard 6493 is it! |
| 12:29 | oleonard, i don't think so on bug 5874 - i thought cic reports were on the circ page so that they were accessible to those with circ permissions without giving them report permissions | |
| 12:29 | oleonard | 6493 describes the symptoms of the problem, but 6640 deals with the root cause |
| 12:29 | nengard | i have a few libraries who see it as a big bug |
| 12:30 | oleonard | nengard: I'm just pointing out that someone filed 5874 because they thought it should work that way. So technically the bug is resolved, because it does what it set out to do. |
| 12:30 | nengard | got it |
| 12:31 | now - did i report a bug to say that i thought it was a bug? i thought I did - but I'm so damn fuzzy and my search skills seem to be lacking right now | |
| 12:33 | kf | hm |
| 12:34 | i want to sqash the 3 latest commits on a branch into one patch | |
| 12:34 | but I have problems getting the syntax right | |
| 12:36 | git rebase -i HEAD^^^ did it :) | |
| 12:38 | nengard | :) |
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| 14:06 | wizzyrea | mornin |
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| 14:06 | wizzyrea | cait I'm confused about my laters :P |
| 14:07 | what does it mean? | |
| 14:08 | oleonard | laters? |
| 14:08 | wizzyrea | oh, never mind. The crucial first @later didn't come through! |
| 14:08 | oleonard | Oh, @laters |
| 14:08 | wizzyrea | ^^ that |
| 14:09 | druthb | Puzzler re: Diacritics and labels--if you export in PDF, diacritics get mangled. Anyone seen this? There aren't any bugs in BZ about labels specifically. |
| 14:09 | oleonard | laters are like the IRC equivalent of getting snail mail. So exciting. |
| 14:09 | druthb: I think it's a known bug | |
| 14:10 | wizzyrea | druthb: that is well known to NEKLS owners of pokémon |
| 14:10 | they just know to do those labels manually | |
| 14:10 | oleonard | I've heard chris_n rant before about the impossibility of getting PDFs to play nice with diacritics |
| 14:10 | wizzyrea | ^^ |
| 14:10 | druthb | Bug 2629 points at problems with searching diacritics, but there doesn't seem to be one about printing labels. |
| 14:10 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2629 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Diacritics not being ignored when searching |
| 14:11 | wizzyrea | I think that there may not be an official bug for it, but I know chris_n is aware of the issue |
| 14:11 | and like I said, our libraries just know to make that label manually | |
| 14:11 | ping chris_n | |
| 14:12 | druthb | hm...just as a placeholder, I think I'll open a bug to it, so I can link to it from our tracker; we've got a couple of places reporting this one. |
| 14:13 | wizzyrea | yes, definitely, I will confirm that bug. |
| 14:13 | who wants to go with me testing on 553 | |
| 14:13 | bug 5533 | |
| 14:13 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5533 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, srdjan, ASSIGNED , marking item lost diff in two places |
| 14:14 | druthb | wizzyrea++ ; I confirmed what my new ticket was seeing by testing it on your site. ^.^ |
| 14:14 | wizzyrea | woohoo! |
| 14:16 | druthb | Bug 6899 added |
| 14:16 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6899 normal, P5, ---, cnighswonger, NEW , Diacritics do not export to PDF correctly |
| 14:20 | oleonard | chris_n will probably mark that "wontfix because it is unpossible" |
| 14:21 | druthb | If the bug is in PDF::Reuse, that's one thing. There's one line in C4::Creators::PDF that talks about utf8, and it's conditional; I tried making it unconditional, but that didn't change anything. |
| 14:24 | my_searching_skills-- | |
| 14:24 | Bug 6899 is a duplicate of Bug 2246. | |
| 14:24 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6899 normal, P5, ---, cnighswonger, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, Diacritics do not export to PDF correctly |
| 14:24 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2246 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, cnighswonger, NEW , Label printing doesn't work with Unicode characters | |
| 14:25 | wizzyrea | oh snap that's old |
| 14:25 | kf | hehe |
| 14:25 | yep | |
| 14:25 | and not really solvable with pdf it seems | |
| 14:25 | * kf | waves |
| 14:26 | wizzyrea | is this a library that does a lot of stuff with diacritics? |
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| 14:26 | kf | wizzyrea: I notices some entries on the history page were doubled up, left you a later, chris corrected, noticed it's over a year old... and chris started teasing me about my typos |
| 14:26 | wizzyrea | is it actually really utterly burdensome to do the labels manually? |
| 14:26 | our libraries don't really feel that it is | |
| 14:26 | at least, I haven't heard complaints | |
| 14:26 | druthb | For a site with very, very large foreign-language collections--such as the one I'm wrangling right now--it'd be really a problem. |
| 14:26 | kf | depends on the library I guess |
| 14:27 | I thin it was discussed to do a html version | |
| 14:27 | * oleonard | was wondering yesterday whether it was possible to automate the creation of ODF files |
| 14:27 | kf | as a way to make all things print correctly |
| 14:27 | sekjal | hi, all |
| 14:27 | kf | instead of using pdf |
| 14:27 | wizzyrea | hi sekjal |
| 14:27 | kf | sekjal will now perhap |
| 14:27 | know | |
| 14:27 | wizzyrea | :D |
| 14:27 | sekjal | oh, dear |
| 14:27 | know what? | |
| 14:27 | oleonard | The answer |
| 14:27 | wahanui | the answer is always go back to sleep |
| 14:27 | kf | label printing with diacritics |
| 14:27 | oleonard | Nice one wahanui |
| 14:27 | wizzyrea | ^^ |
| 14:27 | kf | and plans to resolve the unicode/pdf problem :) |
| 14:28 | sekjal | ah, for that we need HTML label format. then the browser/OS can handle the Print to PDF part |
| 14:28 | wizzyrea | well there is a facility for getting the data out in CSV, they could do a mail merge |
| 14:28 | sekjal | since the open tools for PDF creation are... limited |
| 14:28 | wizzyrea | it's not quite a perfect workflow |
| 14:28 | but it would work | |
| 14:29 | sekjal | chris_n has a branch-in-progress for HTML label export, but it's not quite operational yet |
| 14:29 | last estimate he had, I believe, was another 40-50 hrs work | |
| 14:29 | wizzyrea | urf |
| 14:30 | kf | urf |
| 14:34 | sekjal | if I knew a bit more about OO Perl, I may be able to throw some effort at it, but at this point, it'd probably take me twice as long as chris_n to do anything helpful |
| 14:36 | * oleonard | wonders what chris_n is up to these days |
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| 14:48 | kf | jcamins_away: around? |
| 14:56 | slef | fun fun fun |
| 14:56 | hi all | |
| 14:56 | sekjal | hi slef |
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| 14:57 | sekjal | are there any special considerations I have to put into place to allow holds on 'On Order' materials? |
| 14:57 | using current master | |
| 14:57 | wizzyrea | oo |
| 14:57 | we have maybe some docs on that sekjal | |
| 14:57 | sec | |
| 14:57 | sekjal | thx |
| 14:57 | oleonard | ...something I should know. |
| 14:58 | wizzyrea | http://www.nexpresslibrary.org[…]g-on-order-items/ |
| 14:58 | now, that's not going to be current master | |
| 14:59 | but, could probably be adapted. | |
| 14:59 | it's the way we're using it now | |
| 14:59 | iirc | |
| 15:00 | sekjal | ok |
| 15:00 | will read | |
| 15:00 | also working on a more robust patch for 6673.... too much multitasking! | |
| 15:00 | wizzyrea | :) |
| 15:01 | oleonard | wizzyrea: What's the authorized value for "Ordered?" With us it's -1. I think it has to be negative to allow holds. |
| 15:01 | * wizzyrea | will look |
| 15:01 | oleonard | sekjal: Please let me know if there's anything I can do to help with 6673 |
| 15:02 | wizzyrea | ours is -1 as well |
| 15:03 | sekjal | oleonard: have you read my updates from last night? |
| 15:04 | oleonard | Yes. I never test using the KohaAdmin account though. |
| 15:05 | wizzyrea | I'm amazed that my catalogers haven't noticed this. |
| 15:05 | sekjal | hmmmm |
| 15:05 | you'll get the error message in two cases | |
| 15:05 | (okay, maybe more) | |
| 15:05 | wizzyrea | but their workflow is on existing added items, nothing in the repository |
| 15:05 | sekjal | if the new batch cannot be created, or if any of the items cannot be added to it |
| 15:06 | the new batch cannot be created if the branchcode is improperly set | |
| 15:06 | the items cannot be added if the import had duplicate barcodes | |
| 15:06 | or if the import was reverted | |
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| 15:14 | sekjal | okay, updated my patch on 6673 to remove all weird usage of LoginBranchname |
| 15:16 | oleonard | So what Koha consortia "charging their librarians multi-thousand dollar extraction |
| 15:16 | fees just to get their own data out!" ? | |
| 15:16 | wizzyrea | !!! |
| 15:16 | where did you see this? | |
| 15:17 | oleonard | bug 6891 |
| 15:17 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6891 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , LDIF interoperability - a proposal |
| 15:19 | wizzyrea | well migrations from proprietary systems do cost money to complete? |
| 15:19 | i mean someones gotta wrangle that data into shape | |
| 15:19 | and presumably they are paid to do it | |
| 15:20 | NEKLS absorbs a lot of that cost for our members, but it does cost us to do, no matter the ILS | |
| 15:20 | sekjal | yeah, I'm going to have to call for a "cite source" on that remark |
| 15:20 | wizzyrea | but |
| 15:21 | a couple thousand bucks simply to extract the data? | |
| 15:21 | that seems a bit much. | |
| 15:21 | my guess is he misunderstands what they're paying for. | |
| 15:21 | (and it's possible the customer doesn't know either due to bad communication from the consortia) | |
| 15:22 | sekjal | maybe |
| 15:22 | wizzyrea | I can certainly see how it would *appear* to a member library that the only work done with the library was when we come in and extract the data |
| 15:22 | sekjal | probably not worth getting in a lather over |
| 15:22 | wizzyrea | what they don't see is all the hours spent analyzing and refining the data to fit into a consortial system. |
| 15:23 | yea, I don't think so either. | |
| 15:23 | a common format would certainly help with the hours spent analyzing and massaging, though. | |
| 15:23 | gmcharlt | format*s* |
| 15:24 | wizzyrea | formats ;) |
| 15:24 | gmcharlt | but that's just my preference for a set of small formats that each do their thing well rather than a huge unitary one |
| 15:25 | wizzyrea | a common way of denoting fines and statistics would be most welcome. |
| 15:31 | nengard | i'm having bug searching trouble today - my librarain skills are broken on drugs apparently - can anyone tell me if there is a bug report for the fact that you can't place holds on items that are on order? i know you used to, but now it seems to be controled by allowing on shelf holds and i wanted to update the bug report |
| 15:32 | * oleonard | was not aware that it was broken |
| 15:33 | * wizzyrea | either |
| 15:35 | nengard | if you have allowonshelfholds off you can't place a hold on an ordered item |
| 15:35 | apparently ? | |
| 15:35 | * chris_n | realizes he was the topic of conversation this morning :-) |
| 15:35 | wizzyrea | that seems logical to me |
| 15:35 | the ordered item is 'on the shelf' | |
| 15:36 | the solution would be to check out the item to cataloging | |
| 15:36 | then people could place holds on it | |
| 15:36 | oleonard | chris_n: I thought that's what you materialized. We said your name too darn many times. |
| 15:36 | wizzyrea | not a bug, imo |
| 15:36 | chris_n | hehe |
| 15:36 | reiveune | bye* |
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| 15:36 | wizzyrea | hello and goodbye |
| 15:36 | gmcharlt | just with much happier results as compared to saying "hastur" three times |
| 15:37 | chris_n | HTML labels is very doable |
| 15:37 | * wizzyrea | doesn't try it |
| 15:37 | chris_n | I got into it and then suddenly ran out of time |
| 15:37 | wizzyrea | I love hearing things are doable |
| 15:38 | gmcharlt | wizzyrea: would be a reasonable enhancement, though - think of renaming the AllowOnShelfHolds syspref to AllowHoldsOnAvailableItems |
| 15:38 | * chris_n | loves hearing he has more time :-) |
| 15:39 | sekjal | gmcharlt: "available" is not clearly defined in Koha, unfortunately |
| 15:39 | wizzyrea | ^^ |
| 15:39 | sekjal | and I think it would be to contextualized: available for loan, available for use, available for holds, etc |
| 15:39 | gmcharlt | sekjal: but the concept behind the renaming stands |
| 15:39 | wizzyrea | you're both right :) |
| 15:40 | well... an on order item technically is only available for reserves. | |
| 15:41 | * wizzyrea | sits down and shuts up. |
| 15:43 | sekjal | AllowOnOrderHolds? |
| 15:43 | wizzyrea | ^^ |
| 15:43 | sekjal | but "on order" is controlled by the data, not by any explicit coding |
| 15:44 | that is, by current convention, notforloan == -1 | |
| 15:44 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6875] de-nesting C4 packages <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6875> |
| 15:44 | sekjal | and a library may or may not actually have that authorized value in their system |
| 15:50 | gmcharlt | sekjal: which arguably ought to be buttoned up a bit so that code can count on knowing if an item is on order or not |
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| 15:59 | * wizzyrea | curses the yui buttons |
| 15:59 | wizzyrea | makes selenium tests harder. |
| 16:00 | * druthb | wonders if there's someone around who can give signoff to my teeny XSLT patch on Bug 6900. It's working on a test server for me, but there might be a better way to do that. |
| 16:00 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6900 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, ruth, ASSIGNED , In XSLT, OPAC display of availability needs a line break when both loan and not-for-loan items present |
| 16:01 | jcamins_away | druthb: I got it. |
| 16:01 | druthb | jcamins++ |
| 16:01 | thanx! | |
| 16:02 | jcamins_away | Wow, I just submitted and fixed bug 6800 a few weeks ago. |
| 16:02 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6800 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, jcamins, ASSIGNED , Koha authentication should handle proxies better |
| 16:02 | jcamins_away | There sure are a lot of bugs reported. |
| 16:03 | sekjal | lots of Koha users |
| 16:03 | jcamins_away | Yup. |
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| 16:03 | jcamins_away | I'm not saying that's a bad thing, just being impressed. |
| 16:06 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6900] In XSLT, OPAC display of availability needs a line break when both loan and not-for-loan items present <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6900> |
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| 16:10 | jcamins_away | druthb: it might be nice to have the word "Copies" lining up on the two lines, but it's definitely an improvement. |
| 16:11 | Signing off. | |
| 16:11 | wahanui | signing off is a great idea! |
| 16:11 | oleonard | all the cool kids are doing it |
| 16:11 | druthb | Hm. on my screen, they *do* line up. |
| 16:12 | jcamins_away | Really? |
| 16:12 | I'm talking about horizontally. | |
| 16:12 | wizzyrea | oleonard: i'm poking at the search patch |
| 16:12 | i'm still not clear on what attributes we should be able to search by | |
| 16:12 | * wizzyrea | will roll it back and try searching for my attribute of "tabby" in additional attributes |
| 16:13 | wizzyrea | never mind, I found it |
| 16:26 | kf | jcamins_away: have a minute? |
| 16:26 | i am stuck on an xslt problem | |
| 16:27 | what am I doing wrong here? :( http://paste.koha-community.org/50 | |
| 16:28 | jcamins_away | kf: I do. |
| 16:28 | kf | Language: ; ; <result |
| 16:28 | marc: =041 0\$alat$aang$asga | |
| 16:28 | :) | |
| 16:28 | wizzyrea | nengard: I'm not quite done with this yet |
| 16:28 | http://koha-community.org/documentation/ | |
| 16:28 | but | |
| 16:28 | better. | |
| 16:28 | jcamins_away | Ooh, nifty feature. |
| 16:29 | Try xsl:when test="text() = 'ang'" etc. | |
| 16:30 | kf | hm |
| 16:30 | not sure this is the problem | |
| 16:31 | I had it working with this check for one language code | |
| 16:31 | but the repeated ... | |
| 16:31 | grr | |
| 16:32 | oh | |
| 16:32 | jcamins_away | Yes, for-each changes the scope. |
| 16:32 | kf | jcamins_away++++ :) |
| 16:32 | thd | |
| 16:32 | thx | |
| 16:33 | wizzyrea | documentation? |
| 16:33 | wahanui | i heard documentation was at http://koha-community.org/documentation/ |
| 16:33 | wizzyrea | documentation/ |
| 16:33 | documentation? | |
| 16:33 | wahanui | hmmm... documentation is at http://koha-community.org/documentation/ |
| 16:33 | wizzyrea | documentation? |
| 16:33 | wahanui | i heard documentation was at http://koha-community.org/documentation/ |
| 16:33 | * wizzyrea | is impatient |
| 16:33 | kf | hah! Language: Latin; German, Old High (ca. 750-1050) |
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| 16:48 | oleonard | Oh sekjal, didn't realize you'd left. I guess my PMs disappeared into the ether. |
| 16:48 | * oleonard | looks disapprovingly at his chat client |
| 16:49 | sekjal | oleonard: sorry, my wifi connection was terminated, so I had to relocate |
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| 17:39 | wizzyrea | cait, can you gurn off the analytics view in the OPAC? |
| 17:39 | it's frightening and confusing for my users >.> | |
| 17:39 | mostly because it 404's | |
| 17:39 | s/gurn/turn | |
| 17:39 | cait | hehe not yet |
| 17:39 | it's on my list | |
| 17:39 | for tonight | |
| 17:39 | wizzyrea | lol ok |
| 17:39 | cait | I wanted to talk to oleonard about it |
| 17:39 | is he still here? | |
| 17:39 | I was thinking syspref vs. classes / ids in the xslt file | |
| 17:40 | so you can turn off and on fields with css | |
| 17:40 | * oleonard | is here |
| 17:40 | wizzyrea | i'm a fan of killing it with css |
| 17:40 | cait | adding it to the summary spans |
| 17:40 | wizzyrea | oh now they want to know what exactly it is supposed to do |
| 17:40 | * wizzyrea | honestly has no idea |
| 17:40 | cait | hehe |
| 17:40 | if oyu have analytics in your catalog it will bring up a result list for that | |
| 17:41 | showing you the essays | |
| 17:41 | should not bring up 404 actually | |
| 17:41 | only an empty list of you have none | |
| 17:41 | wizzyrea | well, result not found I guess |
| 17:41 | cait | yep |
| 17:41 | wizzyrea | now that i look at it myself |
| 17:41 | i am pretty sure we do not have analytics in our catalog >.> | |
| 17:41 | apparently. | |
| 17:41 | cait | so you are volunteering to sign off? :) |
| 17:41 | if I get it done tonight? | |
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| 17:41 | wizzyrea | well yes |
| 17:42 | cait | just got home, will eat dinner and get started on it |
| 17:42 | wizzyrea | for the hiding |
| 17:42 | anyway | |
| 17:42 | i have no idea how it works | |
| 17:42 | cait | oleonard: do you think this is an ok idea? |
| 17:42 | wizzyrea | so... |
| 17:42 | * wizzyrea | claims ignorance |
| 17:42 | cait | wizzyrea: do you have an example in your catalog I could look at? |
| 17:42 | wizzyrea | yea sec |
| 17:42 | http://catalog.nexpresslibrary[…]blionumber=469048 | |
| 17:43 | cait | ok, this is a serial record |
| 17:43 | oleonard | cait: All fields? So would have an XSLT file that showed everything, and libraries would hide what they didn't want? |
| 17:43 | cait | ldr says so |
| 17:43 | oleonard: I thought it would make sense for some other fields perhaps too | |
| 17:43 | and would be better than having sysprefs | |
| 17:43 | wizzyrea | and http://catalog.nexpresslibrary[…]blionumber=469047 |
| 17:43 | cait | and you could also make something bold or chang eit easier if there were some individual id's or classes |
| 17:44 | but wanted to check with you if it's a bad idea for a reason I am not thinking about right now :) | |
| 17:44 | * wizzyrea | is glad there are brilliant people like cait and jcamins to do stuff with things like analytics |
| 17:44 | wizzyrea | because I really have no idea. |
| 17:44 | cait | hehe |
| 17:44 | let's say you catalog the essays in the serial | |
| 17:44 | so people can search for them | |
| 17:44 | some special libraries do that | |
| 17:45 | you link them using 773 I think | |
| 17:45 | to the serial | |
| 17:45 | but the serial has no idea it has analytics (that's why I can't show the link only if there are analytics) | |
| 17:45 | the link currently will show up automatically if it is a serial record | |
| 17:45 | but I want to make it hidable | |
| 17:45 | * cait | is not brillian |
| 17:45 | cait | t |
| 17:46 | brilliant would be a way to make the link only show up if there is something to be found | |
| 17:46 | at the moment it's show everywhere or show nowhere | |
| 17:46 | wizzyrea | aha |
| 17:46 | she's going to tweak the ldr on those 2 records for now | |
| 17:46 | to hide it | |
| 17:46 | :P | |
| 17:47 | but we will poke your patch when we see it | |
| 17:47 | cait | :) |
| 17:47 | ok | |
| 17:47 | * cait | needs more tea |
| 17:48 | * wizzyrea | supports cait's tea habit |
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| 17:54 | cait | hehe |
| 17:55 | maximep | trying to figure out the create order page... the Actual cost field is never saved in the db ? |
| 17:55 | cait | maximep: it will when oyu enter it on receive I think |
| 17:55 | and it should | |
| 17:55 | maximep | but it is when you receive |
| 17:55 | cait | yep |
| 17:55 | rangi told me it's on the order page too in case you want to skip the receive part - but that's not working now | |
| 17:55 | maximep | shouldn't the two be linked together ? |
| 17:55 | cait | probably a broken feature |
| 17:56 | maximep | because the replacement and budgeted cost are the same in the 2 interfaces |
| 17:56 | cait | I would think so, at the momen the one on order seems not to be functional |
| 17:56 | maximep | ok |
| 17:56 | going to open a bug report then | |
| 17:56 | and do a patch | |
| 17:56 | cait | yay :) |
| 17:56 | maximep | because without that, there's no way to modify the price |
| 17:56 | after u receive | |
| 17:56 | cait | hm |
| 17:57 | ah | |
| 17:57 | but it works | |
| 17:57 | after receive | |
| 17:57 | with a patch | |
| 17:57 | that I signed off on these days | |
| 17:57 | ahve you searched bugzilla for actual price? | |
| 17:57 | there should be at least 2 bug reports about that | |
| 17:58 | maximep | bug 6414 |
| 17:58 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6414 major, P5, ---, henridamien, NEW , actual price not recorded when ordering |
| 17:58 | maximep | but no patch |
| 17:58 | let's see if theres another.. | |
| 17:58 | cait | ah, I have more |
| 17:58 | bug 4831 | |
| 17:58 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4831 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, srdjan, ASSIGNED , Actual Price being ignored after receive |
| 17:58 | cait | bug 6879 |
| 17:58 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6879 critical, P5, ---, henridamien, NEW , Actual price should show correctly on order line and basket summary |
| 17:58 | maximep | wow lol |
| 17:59 | cait | the first one has a patch |
| 17:59 | the second is a bigger problem - and I probably understand now what you mean and you are right | |
| 17:59 | if you want to change the actual price after receive you need to modify the order line | |
| 17:59 | and it shows the wrong value in there - I rreported that in 6879 | |
| 18:00 | maximep | ok |
| 18:00 | * cait | hopes she didn't scare you away :) |
| 18:00 | maximep | 4831 doesn't seem to be the same problem |
| 18:01 | cait | no |
| 18:01 | it's only connected to the actual price thing | |
| 18:01 | and has a patch | |
| 18:01 | so I wanted you to know :) | |
| 18:02 | maximep | that code is so hard to understand :/ |
| 18:02 | * cait | sends chocolate |
| 18:07 | maximep | it shows ecost in the actual cost of neworder, but I think it should show unitprice |
| 18:07 | and be saved as unitprice | |
| 18:07 | I think that would fix both 6414 and 6879 | |
| 18:08 | cait | I would say try it out and let me test :) |
| 18:08 | * wizzyrea | is glad to vanquish bug 5533 |
| 18:08 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5533 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, srdjan, ASSIGNED , marking item lost diff in two places |
| 18:09 | slef | wizzyrea: I've a new cool plugin for wordpress. See it on my blog's comment forms. |
| 18:10 | wizzyrea | slef forgive me, which blog? |
| 18:10 | maximep | cait: ok, will send a patch to 6879 |
| 18:10 | * wizzyrea | likes neat plugins |
| 18:11 | slef | arrrrrrrrgh |
| 18:11 | * slef | goes to cut and paste it |
| 18:11 | wizzyrea | oy! |
| 18:11 | slef | autocomplete is biting me |
| 18:12 | cool new login links on http://www.news.software.coop/[…]ts/1149/#comments | |
| 18:12 | it's a hack of comments-with-openid to make it work more nicely with 3.2 | |
| 18:12 | I'll publish it RSN | |
| 18:12 | wizzyrea | ooo! |
| 18:12 | that is NEATO | |
| 18:13 | so commenters don't have to have an actual blog account to post comments | |
| 18:13 | ? | |
| 18:14 | that is NEAT. | |
| 18:15 | slef | no, but I allow public to comment with moderation anyway |
| 18:15 | it just avoids them having to type in all three fields | |
| 18:15 | as wordpress will go eat them from their profile | |
| 18:15 | wizzyrea | i like that |
| 18:15 | slef | I'd like to add facebook and twitter but they make you register for API keys, which sucks |
| 18:15 | wizzyrea | *nod* |
| 18:16 | slef | I spend too much time fiddling with our wordpress because it is FUN already |
| 18:16 | wizzyrea | :) wordpress *is* fun |
| 18:16 | oleonard | Wait... slef? Fun? PHP? |
| 18:17 | * wizzyrea | just goes with it |
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| 18:18 | slef | oleonard: the good thing of wordpress I don't have to write much PHP at any one time and rarely get stuck adding bloody echo(); commands to debug it. |
| 18:19 | it's reasonable | |
| 18:19 | wizzyrea | did you guys see this? |
| 18:19 | http://blog.wikimedia.org/2011[…]s-are-configured/ | |
| 18:19 | kind of awesome. | |
| 18:20 | slef | mediawiki is not fun |
| 18:20 | maximep | puppet is sure cool |
| 18:20 | once you create all your scripts and your configs | |
| 18:20 | wizzyrea | but it's cool to see how they've done stuff. |
| 18:21 | imo | |
| 18:21 | slef | yeah, it's one good way of doing things... we're a bit more ad-hoc by using git trees to share configs around |
| 18:21 | we still don't have many servers that are exactly the same configuration | |
| 18:21 | maybe it'll be a 10th birthday present for us ;-) | |
| 18:21 | wizzyrea | :D |
| 18:22 | man I am loving schema.koha-community.org | |
| 18:23 | maximep | yeah I guess it's worth it if you have to install 40 servers with the same config :p |
| 18:23 | sekjal | soliciting opinions: I'm working on bug 6403, and I'm wondering if it's worth having a syspref to control this, or to just do it automatically |
| 18:23 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6403 enhancement, P5, ---, ian.walls, NEW , Record local use stats when checking in |
| 18:25 | sekjal | right now, all my patch is doing, is if the item isn't issued when it's returned, changing the UpdateStats type from 'return' to 'localuse' |
| 18:25 | (and adding a message to the template noting "inhouse use recorded" | |
| 18:25 | wizzyrea | well |
| 18:25 | cait | it goes into statistics table or will it increment the local use value? |
| 18:26 | I think the problem is lots of people are checking in stuff | |
| 18:26 | wizzyrea | ok, we use checkin to process incoming transfers |
| 18:26 | cait | just to check what's up with it |
| 18:26 | wizzyrea | is that a valud localuse? |
| 18:26 | cait | so it would always count |
| 18:26 | wizzyrea | valid* |
| 18:26 | cait | and not only for the statistical user like before |
| 18:26 | and for this I think it should perhaps be a sys pref | |
| 18:27 | I think local use would be if oyu have a thing like a reading room | |
| 18:27 | wizzyrea | sorry to make it harder sekjal :( |
| 18:27 | sekjal | aside from the message, the only difference with the syspref on is that UpdateStats adds the entry as "localuse" instead of "return" |
| 18:27 | cait | and want to track what people are bringing in there to read |
| 18:27 | sekjal | doesn't add a new statistics table entry |
| 18:27 | * wizzyrea | ponders this |
| 18:27 | sekjal | just modifies the one that's already occurring |
| 18:27 | cait | sekjal: so you are not incrementing the value in the item? the localusething? |
| 18:28 | I thought there was a value in items for this... but perhaps I am mistaken | |
| 18:28 | sekjal | cait: I don't believe there is such an item value |
| 18:28 | cait | and that you would use the statistical patron to incrmeent that by checkout |
| 18:28 | sekjal | at least, if there is, it's not updating it when a statistical patron is used, either |
| 18:28 | wizzyrea | yea that's gotta be a syspref. |
| 18:29 | as an example, we wouldn't want every item checked in to fill a hold to be a localuse | |
| 18:29 | sekjal | but it should be recorded as 'return'? |
| 18:29 | wizzyrea | we, specifically, don't do anything with return statistics |
| 18:29 | precisely for this reason | |
| 18:29 | because return stats are bloated by reserves | |
| 18:30 | cait | hm you are probably right |
| 18:30 | http://manual.koha-community.o[…]trackinhouse.html | |
| 18:30 | http://manual.koha-community.o[…]dstatspatron.html | |
| 18:30 | sekjal | so... the robust solution would be to breakdown the UpdateStats type even more intelligently |
| 18:30 | cait | so you could still use a statistical user for specific stuff |
| 18:30 | sekjal | so returns are indeed all returns, localuse all localuse, holds are hold, etc. etc |
| 18:31 | wizzyrea | ^^ yes, sadly this |
| 18:31 | cait | maximep++ |
| 18:31 | * wizzyrea | knows that's a lot more work. |
| 18:31 | cait | sekjal: I think you are right |
| 18:31 | wizzyrea: the new search for the manual is great | |
| 18:31 | sekjal | okay, well that's outside the scope of today's project. I'll just put the syspref in there, then, as originally planned |
| 18:31 | wizzyrea | I do my best |
| 18:32 | but I'm glad you like it | |
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| 18:34 | cait | wizzyrea: bug 6901 |
| 18:34 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6901 enhancement, P5, ---, katrin.fischer, NEW , Add CSS classes/ids to OPAC and staff XSLT views |
| 18:36 | wizzyrea | k. food, then that. |
| 18:37 | cait | wizzyrea: not there yet, only the bug is there now ;) |
| 18:37 | wizzyrea | hehe |
| 18:37 | k | |
| 18:44 | pastebot | "oleonard" at 66.213.78.34 pasted "For cait: jQuery show/hide example" (142 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/51 |
| 18:45 | cait | oleonard++ |
| 18:45 | :) | |
| 18:45 | thank you! | |
| 18:46 | oleonard | You're very welcome |
| 18:48 | slef | so wizzyrea you want me to post that modified plugin then? ;-) |
| 18:56 | cait | nengard++ |
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| 19:09 | jcamins_away | Ooh, does anyone want to join the Dark Side? They're hiring. |
| 19:09 | cait | I am not tempted |
| 19:09 | jcamins_away | Lightsaber and scary mask not included. |
| 19:09 | cait | lol |
| 19:09 | jcamins_away | Well... what if they offered you a lightsaber or scary mask? |
| 19:09 | Or black cape! | |
| 19:09 | * cait | was wondering: how das yoda speak in english? |
| 19:09 | cait | dark the other side is? |
| 19:10 | jcamins_away | Yup. |
| 19:10 | cait | shut up yoda and eat your toast... |
| 19:10 | jcamins_away | :) |
| 19:10 | cait | sorry, couln#t resist |
| 19:10 | oleonard | Where'd you see that jcamins_away ? |
| 19:11 | jcamins_away | oleonard: sith-l? ;) |
| 19:11 | Autocat. | |
| 19:11 | oleonard | sith-l is a very well-behaved list. Anyone who leaves their vacation auto-responder turned on gets force-choked. |
| 19:12 | cait | ok |
| 19:12 | something did go wrong here | |
| 19:12 | runtime error: file /home/katrin/kohaclone/koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/xslt/MARC21slimUtils.xsl line 143 element choose Variable 'UseAuthoritiesForTracings' has not been declared. at /home/katrin/kohaclone/C4/XSLT.pm line 178 :( | |
| 19:13 | oleonard: lol | |
| 19:13 | jcamins_away | cait: the variables at the top are now scoped wrong. |
| 19:13 | cait | are now? |
| 19:13 | what have I done? | |
| 19:14 | jcamins_away | Probably deleted an <xsl:if>? |
| 19:14 | cait | checking... |
| 19:15 | jcamins_away | Wait... that error doesn't make sense. |
| 19:15 | cait | no |
| 19:15 | jcamins_away | Oh, I see. |
| 19:15 | cait | perhaps it does not like spaces in attributes? |
| 19:15 | jcamins_away | Two line numbers. |
| 19:16 | cait | yes? |
| 19:16 | jcamins_away | Wait a minute. |
| 19:17 | * oleonard | flees |
| 19:17 | cait | oh that's nice |
| 19:17 | master is broken oto | |
| 19:17 | to it was not ME | |
| 19:18 | jcamins_away | No it's not. |
| 19:18 | Someone rearranged things a bit. | |
| 19:19 | cait | ok |
| 19:19 | jcamins_away | Add this line in that template: <xsl:variable name="UseAuthoritiesForTracings" select="marc:sysprefs/marc:syspref[@name='UseAuthoritiesForTracings']"/> |
| 19:19 | cait | which commit was it? |
| 19:19 | jcamins_away | I'm not sure. |
| 19:19 | cait | hm |
| 19:19 | jcamins_away | One of the problem commits was f087137f, which had a one-line change I didn't notice. |
| 19:20 | However, I think there's another, more recent commit, too, where a line was removed, probably. | |
| 19:23 | cait | xslt pm? |
| 19:24 | jcamins_away | No, it's all scoping in the XSLTs. |
| 19:24 | The error is because m880select is getting called in a context where the variables aren't defined. | |
| 19:26 | cait | oh |
| 19:26 | where | |
| 19:26 | jcamins_away | I don't know. :( |
| 19:26 | And I'm trying to write a paper right now, so I can't really look. | |
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| 19:37 | cait | jcamins++ |
| 19:37 | saving my evening :) | |
| 19:39 | jcamins_away | :) |
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| 19:46 | rangi | hi trea |
| 19:47 | trea | rangi, hello |
| 19:47 | how's well? anymore hail? | |
| 19:47 | welly* | |
| 19:47 | rangi | nope not for about a week anyway |
| 19:47 | it better be fine tomorrow | |
| 19:48 | going to the usa vs australia game | |
| 19:48 | trea | no kidding. iirc hail is pretty unusual isn't it? |
| 19:48 | rangi | this time of year, yep |
| 19:48 | wizzyrea | lordie ohloh is slow today! |
| 19:48 | wtfizzle | |
| 19:49 | rangi | heh |
| 19:53 | cait | ah,now oleonard is gone |
| 19:53 | which css file do I add a new class to? | |
| 19:53 | that is used in xslt files for staff and opac? | |
| 19:53 | rangi | both |
| 19:53 | I reckon | |
| 20:00 | wizzyrea | this might be a dumb question |
| 20:00 | can you bring in a record with items and directly overlay | |
| 20:01 | rangi | when importing? |
| 20:01 | overlay the items? | |
| 20:01 | wizzyrea | example, you have a bib with 3 items all checked out, as part of a batch process you want to overlay the items to edit one or several of the barcodes |
| 20:01 | what does that do to the current issue/ | |
| 20:01 | if anything | |
| 20:01 | cait | no items overlay |
| 20:01 | once a barcode is in | |
| 20:01 | the items never get touched or changed in any way | |
| 20:02 | only overlay for records | |
| 20:02 | you can overlay and add items | |
| 20:02 | rangi | what she said |
| 20:02 | cait | hehe |
| 20:02 | wizzyrea | ty |
| 20:02 | that's really helpful :) | |
| 20:02 | cait++ | |
| 20:02 | cait | sorry :) |
| 20:02 | wizzyrea | no no |
| 20:02 | don't be sorry | |
| 20:05 | cait | wizzyrea: I have staff ready in 3 minutes |
| 20:05 | last proof read | |
| 20:05 | wizzyrea | k |
| 20:05 | cait | I had to do a bit more to fix things for original script 880 fields |
| 20:06 | I will attach some sample records - is this ok for you? | |
| 20:06 | rangi | I should win lotto |
| 20:06 | and donate the money to the make wizzy and cait work on koha fulltime fund | |
| 20:06 | wizzyrea | yep |
| 20:06 | lol | |
| 20:06 | cait | totally |
| 20:07 | does the fund include regular trips to nz? | |
| 20:08 | rangi | it does now |
| 20:09 | cait | ya |
| 20:09 | y | |
| 20:10 | :) | |
| 20:11 | wizzyrea: staff is ready for testing :) | |
| 20:11 | wizzyrea | k |
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| 20:43 | cait | wizzyrea++ |
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| 20:46 | jcamins_away | Goodness! What a lot of activity from ByWaterians! |
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| 20:49 | cait | hm? |
| 20:51 | jcamins_away | cait: when I came back to my computer, there was a screen full of joins, parts, and nick changes from ByWaterians. |
| 20:51 | cait | ah |
| 20:53 | jcamins_away | Wow, that was fast signing off. |
| 20:54 | rangi | kapow! |
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| 20:55 | rangi | its married NateC |
| 20:56 | cait | oh! |
| 20:56 | congratulations NateC | |
| 20:56 | NateC | It is I |
| 20:56 | Thanks Cait | |
| 20:56 | jcamins_away | Congratulations, NateC! |
| 20:56 | rangi | natec |
| 20:56 | NateC | Hiya rangi and #koha |
| 20:56 | rangi | hmm |
| 20:56 | NateC | thanks jcamins |
| 20:56 | rangi | natec? |
| 20:56 | wahanui | I LIKE SPACE AND rangi's WIFE |
| 20:56 | rangi | lol |
| 20:57 | that totally didnt work right | |
| 20:57 | NateC | nice |
| 20:57 | jcamins_away | natec? |
| 20:57 | wahanui | I LIKE SPACE AND rangi's WIFE |
| 20:57 | cait | ? |
| 20:57 | rangi | i wrote |
| 20:57 | i like space and my wife | |
| 20:57 | and it did that ;) | |
| 20:57 | cait | rofl |
| 20:57 | jcamins_away | wahanui: forget natec |
| 20:57 | wahanui | jcamins_away: I forgot natec |
| 20:57 | cait | I think you have to escape it |
| 20:57 | jcamins_away | wahanui: NateC is <reply>I LIKE SPACE AND MY WIFE |
| 20:57 | wahanui | OK, jcamins_away. |
| 20:57 | jcamins_away | natec? |
| 20:57 | wahanui | I LIKE SPACE AND jcamins_away's WIFE |
| 20:57 | jcamins_away | Nope. |
| 20:57 | wahanui: forget natec | |
| 20:57 | wahanui | jcamins_away: I forgot natec |
| 20:58 | cait | NateC is <reply> I LIKE SPACE AND \MY WIFE |
| 20:58 | wahanui | i already had it that way, cait. |
| 20:58 | rangi | natec? |
| 20:58 | wahanui | I LIKE SPACE AND MY WIFE |
| 20:58 | rangi | :) |
| 20:58 | cait | :) |
| 20:58 | wizzyrea | lol you guys |
| 20:58 | bg | Natec? |
| 20:58 | wahanui | I LIKE SPACE AND MY WIFE |
| 20:58 | cait | saw robin doing that... and that |
| 20:58 | germs? | |
| 20:58 | wahanui | Germs originated in Germany, before rapidly spreading throughout the rest of the world. |
| 20:58 | bg | NateC? |
| 20:58 | wahanui | I LIKE SPACE AND MY WIFE |
| 20:59 | rangi | eythian++ |
| 20:59 | druthb | cait? |
| 20:59 | wahanui | i heard cait was kf or a programmer or really sweet or a source of great chocolate or the purveyor of an infinite supply of virtual cookies or not sure we need the page(s)... but that might just be me |
| 21:00 | * druthb | blinks. |
| 21:00 | cait | rangi: meany |
| 21:00 | jcamins_away | That's even better than mine! |
| 21:00 | * trea | chuckles |
| 21:00 | druthb | jcamins? |
| 21:00 | wahanui | jcamins is supposed to be an outstanding cook. or well-traveled and brilliant. or trying to think of a solution, but short of a set of three sysprefs (ShelfBrowserUsesLocation, ShelfBrowserUsesCcode, and ShelfBrowserUsesHomeBranch), I don't really have any ideas. or awesome fixing broken email notifications or the wizard that forges queries in the deep fires of zebra |
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| 21:00 | * druthb | blinks again. |
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| 21:00 | cait | druthb? |
| 21:00 | wahanui | druthb is a travelin' woman. |
| 21:00 | cait | hm |
| 21:00 | druthb | trea? |
| 21:00 | rangi | melia? |
| 21:00 | wahanui | I LIKE BEER AND I LOVE ANSWERING RFP |
| 21:00 | * druthb | pokes wahanui. |
| 21:00 | * wizzyrea | giggles |
| 21:00 | jcamins_away | Ooh, I'd forgotten about the end of that. Mine is pretty epic after all. :) |
| 21:01 | melia | yes rangi? |
| 21:01 | wahanui | I LIKE ALMONDS! HAVE SOME NUTS! |
| 21:01 | * wizzyrea | giggles more |
| 21:01 | druthb | trea is the other half of the wizzyrea. |
| 21:01 | libsysguy | looks like i wandered into some afternoon silliness |
| 21:01 | cait | *giggles too* |
| 21:01 | wizzyrea | that's not fair! |
| 21:01 | rangi | melia: nothing, just seeing what the bot thinks about you ;) |
| 21:01 | melia? | |
| 21:01 | wahanui | I LIKE BEER AND I LOVE ANSWERING RFP |
| 21:01 | druthb | wizzyrea? |
| 21:01 | rangi | its funny cos its TRUE!! |
| 21:01 | druthb | hmpf. |
| 21:01 | rangi | :) |
| 21:02 | wizzyrea | trea? |
| 21:02 | wahanui | I LIKE THE UKULELE AND GINGER ALE! |
| 21:02 | * wizzyrea | nods |
| 21:02 | trea | lulz |
| 21:02 | druthb | wizzyrea? |
| 21:02 | wahanui | wizzyrea is the other half of the trea |
| 21:03 | trea | "better" half |
| 21:03 | druthb | it appears that several of us are all PMing wahanui...poor thing will have a fit shortly. |
| 21:03 | cait | hehe |
| 21:03 | wahanui botsnack baldrian | |
| 21:03 | wahanui | thanks cait :) |
| 21:03 | druthb | talljoy? |
| 21:03 | wahanui | I CRUNCH DATA |
| 21:03 | druthb | lol |
| 21:03 | jcamins_away | change something to what? |
| 21:03 | wahanui | jcamins_away: that doesn't look right |
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| 21:04 | sekjal | rangi: feature freeze is coming up soon, isn't it? |
| 21:04 | rangi | yup |
| 21:04 | tomorrow | |
| 21:04 | wahanui | tomorrow is pizza friday! |
| 21:04 | cait | very very soon |
| 21:04 | rangi | your time |
| 21:04 | sekjal | okay |
| 21:04 | rangi | anything in the queue for signoff is fair game |
| 21:04 | sekjal | I've got a couple last-minute enhancements we're testing internally, with hope of submission today/tomorrow |
| 21:04 | rangi | get them submitted today or tomorrow and they will be in consideration for 3.6.0 |
| 21:04 | druthb | wahanui: botsnack valium |
| 21:04 | wahanui | thanks druthb :) |
| 21:05 | sekjal | cool |
| 21:05 | two features: Novelist Select enhanced content, and in-house use recorded on checkin of unissued items | |
| 21:06 | rangi | ahh saw that |
| 21:06 | novelist one | |
| 21:06 | yeah, those both sound like ones that should be fairly safe | |
| 21:08 | * druthb | hopes her itty bitty patch makes it in...got a go-live soon that wants it. |
| 21:08 | sekjal | druthb: was that bug 6900 |
| 21:09 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6900 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, ruth, ASSIGNED , In XSLT, OPAC display of availability needs a line break when both loan and not-for-loan items present |
| 21:09 | sekjal | ? |
| 21:09 | jcamins_away | druthb: the one I just signed off on? |
| 21:09 | * libsysguy | was hoping hourly would make it in too |
| 21:09 | druthb | that's the one. |
| 21:09 | libsysguy | but I don't think its going to happen |
| 21:09 | * jcamins_away | hopes that bug 6800 makes it in. |
| 21:09 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6800 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, jcamins, ASSIGNED , Koha authentication should handle proxies better |
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| 21:11 | jcamins_away | Since no one else seems to use reverse proxies, getting it signed off is kind of tricky. |
| 21:11 | libsysguy | maybe if i chant it...bug 5549 bug 5549 hehe |
| 21:11 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5549 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, ian.walls, ASSIGNED , Hourly Loans |
| 21:13 | jcamins_away | libsysguy: does that work? If it does, maybe I should chant "bug 6800"... ;) |
| 21:13 | libsysguy | i think we have to chant sekjal with the bug number |
| 21:13 | perhaps he'll just become irritated and push us lol | |
| 21:14 | cait | hehe |
| 21:14 | sekjal humansnack cookies | |
| 21:14 | sekjal | I will try to take as many QA priority requests as I can in this next month |
| 21:14 | * druthb | will be driving 650 miles this weekend, touching two towns that are both named "Columbia" along the way... |
| 21:14 | jcamins_away | Well, rangi does the pushing. sekjal needs to pass us first. ;) |
| 21:14 | cait | rangi: is srdjan in today? |
| 21:14 | libsysguy | oh no we are like hot potatoes |
| 21:14 | cait | perhaps he could fix the small problem on the acq bug I was testing this morning... |
| 21:14 | wizzyrea | trea? |
| 21:14 | wahanui | i heard trea was the support in the darkness. The watcher of the tickets. He is the fire that keeps errant cats happy, the light that brings code updates, the horn that wakes the devs, the shield that guards the realms of nerds. |
| 21:15 | rangi | he works for catalyst australia |
| 21:15 | libsysguy | and sekjal we should have some kind of voting system on koha-community lol |
| 21:15 | wizzyrea | LOL |
| 21:15 | cait | ! |
| 21:15 | rangi | its only 7.15am there |
| 21:15 | cait | didn't know that |
| 21:15 | * druthb | blinks. |
| 21:15 | rangi | so will be in an, in a a little bit |
| 21:15 | cait | wow trea |
| 21:15 | sekjal | libsysguy: yes |
| 21:15 | jcamins_away | How poetic. |
| 21:15 | wizzyrea | trea++ |
| 21:15 | that's awesome | |
| 21:16 | trea1 | lol, yea. gotta love game of thrones |
| 21:16 | rangi | heh |
| 21:16 | druthb | gosh, I ain't nuffin up next to that! |
| 21:16 | * wizzyrea | claims him. You can't have him! |
| 21:16 | libsysguy | druthb we were talking about you today during lunch |
| 21:16 | sekjal | I'd like to see a voting mechanism for the community |
| 21:16 | druthb | ruh roh |
| 21:16 | yes, libsysguy? | |
| 21:16 | libsysguy | we were all wondering when you were coming to visit us |
| 21:16 | wahanui | somebody said libsysguy was Koha's hottest developer or partying with swedes on his deck |
| 21:16 | sekjal | but that would require some kind of registration process |
| 21:16 | cait | sekjal: voting for? |
| 21:17 | libsysguy | sekjal true...can we just use open ID |
| 21:17 | druthb | "all," libsysguy? |
| 21:17 | sekjal | cait: voting on anything anyone proposes |
| 21:17 | cait | hm |
| 21:17 | sekjal | somethign a little more official (and accessible) than IRC |
| 21:17 | cait | we could use something like doodle |
| 21:17 | ah | |
| 21:17 | libsysguy | well...actually we just weren't going to tell you know who...we are all kind of hoping she'll stroke when you show up then we won't have to deal with her anymore |
| 21:18 | druthb | libsysguy: lol. I was wonderin'. such a pity. But at the moment, not sure when I'll be down that way. |
| 21:18 | libsysguy | druthb: that is sad |
| 21:18 | we'll set you up with all the WiFi you can use :) | |
| 21:18 | cait | :) |
| 21:19 | * cait | giggles thinking about wifi and nz |
| 21:19 | did a bus trip with a lot of internet addicted people | |
| 21:19 | libsysguy | that is me!! |
| 21:19 | melia | hey, I signed off a patch (with Brendan's help)! |
| 21:19 | cait | yay! |
| 21:19 | melia++ :) | |
| 21:19 | libsysguy | yay!! |
| 21:19 | bg | yay! |
| 21:19 | libsysguy | melia++ |
| 21:20 | rangi | melia++ |
| 21:20 | trea1 | \o/ |
| 21:20 | cait | :) |
| 21:20 | druthb | libsysguy: If I come use your wifi, then you'll have to run me off eventually, so your problem child can come back to work. |
| 21:20 | sekjal | alright, folks, been fun, but I've got to dash |
| 21:20 | have a great night | |
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| 21:20 | libsysguy | later sekjal |
| 21:20 | cait | bye sekjal :) |
| 21:20 | hi eythian :) | |
| 21:21 | libsysguy | druthb: no you can just come replace her...we can put you on the payroll :) |
| 21:21 | * cait | corrects that to mr robin |
| 21:21 | rangi | that was just his computer, hes not at his desk yet |
| 21:22 | cait | hmpf :) |
| 21:22 | jcamins_away | He's had some connectivity issues, I've noticed. |
| 21:22 | druthb | hm... let's see...how tempted am I to leave ByWater and go work circ in a state where the legislature tried to erase my very existence.... nope, not very. |
| 21:22 | libsysguy | sad day for libsysguy |
| 21:22 | also...this made me giggle http://i.imgur.com/uVCM4.jpg | |
| 21:23 | rangi | lol |
| 21:23 | druthb | you wouldn't want me to come work there, libsysguy...the thing I'm most-qualified for is to replace *you.* *evil grin* |
| 21:23 | * libsysguy | runs and hides |
| 21:24 | libsysguy | actually...they are going to need somebody when I leave next year |
| 21:24 | cait | hehe |
| 21:24 | rangi | someone is playing a mandolin in the office |
| 21:25 | cait | druthb: how are german laws? |
| 21:25 | rangi | i work with some random people |
| 21:25 | jcamins_away | cait: so far as I know, mandolins are legal. |
| 21:25 | rangi | lol |
| 21:25 | cait | lol |
| 21:28 | druthb | not sure, cait, but anyplace that *doesn't* have Rick Perry in the executive offices is better off than one that does. |
| 21:29 | he and his cronies darn near took away my right to ever move back to TX and get married--and would revoke my birth certificate, if they could. | |
| 21:30 | cait | :( |
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| 21:31 | druthb | it worries me greatly that he might become President. Imma thinking ByWater needs to open a Pac Rim office, if that happens. |
| 21:31 | ...or a Eurozone office...or a Martian office...somewhere far, far from here. | |
| 21:35 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: bug_6576: Submit when changing framework rather then reloading <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]339fb877b11a79105> |
| 21:36 | rangi | that was a nasty one |
| 21:37 | wizzyrea | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v[…]player_embedded#! |
| 21:37 | because, well. | |
| 21:37 | you'll see. | |
| 21:37 | we need to make one for the ILS | |
| 21:37 | in the library | |
| 21:38 | rangi | oh yeah |
| 21:38 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 419 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 21:39 | druthb | wizzyrea++ |
| 21:45 | wizzyrea | i'm not sure I deserved karma for that but thanks |
| 21:46 | jcamins_away | wizzyrea++ |
| 21:47 | wizzyrea | seriously guys |
| 21:47 | @karma | |
| 21:47 | huginn | wizzyrea: Highest karma: "rangi" (403), "oleonard" (320), and "gmcharlt" (263). Lowest karma: "<!" (-107), "failed" (-67), and "-" (-37). You (wizzyrea) are ranked 4 out of 1701. |
| 21:47 | wizzyrea | that just aint right |
| 21:47 | @karma wizzyrea | |
| 21:47 | huginn | wizzyrea: Karma for "wizzyrea" has been increased 234 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 234. |
| 21:47 | druthb | @most increased |
| 21:47 | huginn | druthb: "rangi": 408, "oleonard": 325, "gmcharlt": 268, "wizzyrea": 234, "chris_n": 206, "nengard": 194, "cait": 164, "sekjal": 158, "druthb": 119, "paul_p": 113, "jcamins": 101, "slef": 98, "magnuse": 84, "kf": 76, "hdl_laptop": 60, "hdl": 59, "jwagner": 53, "eythian": 52, "biblibre": 46, "atz": 44, "thd": 42, "fredericd": 39, "pianohacker": 39, "larsw": 37, and "Colin": 29 |
| 21:47 | wizzyrea | there is no way I deserve to be above chris_n and sekjal. |
| 21:47 | chris_n++ sekjal++ | |
| 21:48 | kf++ | |
| 21:48 | cait++ | |
| 21:48 | cait | huh? |
| 21:48 | jcamins_away | Ooh, I've broken 100! |
| 21:48 | @karma jcamins_away | |
| 21:48 | huginn | jcamins_away: Karma for "jcamins_away" has been increased 7 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 7. |
| 21:48 | druthb | I had been hoping to catch sekjal, but the blocks have gotten longer.... |
| 21:48 | wizzyrea | well you did that lovely thing to the opac |
| 21:48 | gmcharlt | wizzyrea++ |
| 21:48 | wizzyrea | goldurnit. |
| 21:49 | jcamins_away | @karma sekjal |
| 21:49 | huginn | jcamins_away: Karma for "sekjal" has been increased 159 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 158. |
| 21:49 | cait | hi gmcharlt :) |
| 21:52 | jcamins_away | MariaDB is pretty nifty looking. |
| 21:52 | rangi | it should just drop in |
| 21:53 | worth having a try with sometime | |
| 21:53 | jcamins_away | Does it support InnoDB? |
| 21:53 | rangi | innodb sux |
| 21:53 | tere | |
| 21:53 | there i said it | |
| 21:53 | ;) | |
| 21:54 | gmcharlt | but regardless, MariaDB does support it |
| 21:54 | jcamins_away | rangi: but isn't that what we use in Koha? |
| 21:54 | rangi | yup, in a lot of places we shouldnt |
| 21:54 | gmcharlt | jcamins_away: chris_n did some poking around with mariadb a while back |
| 21:54 | the main thing is that mariadb by default enforces stricter SQL standards compliance than mysql does | |
| 21:55 | so it would require a bit of patch for Koha to work on it | |
| 21:55 | jcamins_away | rangi: shouldn't we stop using InnoDB in those places, then? |
| 21:55 | rangi | i think so |
| 21:55 | places im thinking about | |
| 21:55 | gmcharlt | on the other hand, stricter SQL checking is a Good Thing |
| 21:55 | rangi | is the statistics table |
| 21:55 | sessions | |
| 21:55 | cait | oleonard++ |
| 21:56 | rangi | and a few others |
| 21:56 | jcamins_away | We use InnoDB for sessions? |
| 21:56 | rangi | we used to, we blanket converted everything |
| 21:57 | i think a recent patch fixed sessions | |
| 21:57 | gmcharlt | my favorite storage engine for sessions is ... memcached ;) |
| 21:57 | * rangi | looks |
| 21:57 | rangi | yup, thts what i use too ;) |
| 21:58 | DROP TABLE IF EXISTS sessions; | |
| 21:58 | CREATE TABLE sessions ( `id` varchar(32) NOT NULL, `a_session` text NOT NULL, UNIQUE KEY id (id) | |
| 21:58 | ) ENGINE=InnoDB DEFAULT CHARSET=utf8; | |
| 21:58 | nope we still use it | |
| 21:58 | cait | I think it was talked about on the mailing list recently |
| 21:58 | rangi | zebraqueue is another one |
| 21:59 | we dont have any foreign keys | |
| 21:59 | we arent doing transactions | |
| 21:59 | not winning anything except slow with innodb on that table | |
| 21:59 | when im not RM | |
| 22:00 | ill make myself a pest rejigging the database and getting it running on postgres at least as well as mysql | |
| 22:00 | * jcamins_away | didn't realize zebraqueue was InnoDB. |
| 22:00 | wizzyrea | oh! |
| 22:00 | time to go! | |
| 22:00 | later peps | |
| 22:00 | rangi | take a look at kohastructure.sql jcamins_away |
| 22:00 | pretty much everything is | |
| 22:01 | cya wizzyrea | |
| 22:01 | jcamins_away | rangi: yeah, unless you're me, and decided to change zebraqueue to MyISAM. |
| 22:01 | And sessions. | |
| 22:01 | Seems to work fine. | |
| 22:01 | rangi | yup |
| 22:02 | jcamins_away | I don't even remember doing that, but my DB's been around the block a few times. |
| 22:03 | Some time I should take a look, see if I've been using MyISAM for any other tables. | |
| 22:05 | rangi | :) |
| 22:05 | cait | wizzyrea: bye :) |
| 22:06 | jcamins_away | I should also figure out if I have any custom indexes. |
| 22:06 | cait | rangi: does your rejigging involve getting rid of all thos eunused columns? |
| 22:06 | rangi | yup |
| 22:06 | cait | rangi: or more consistent use of datatypes? |
| 22:06 | rangi | seems like the perfect opportunity |
| 22:06 | * cait | agrees |
| 22:06 | rangi | and reserved names |
| 22:06 | so we dont have to backtick things | |
| 22:07 | * cait | nods |
| 22:07 | * rangi | looks forward to breaking everything |
| 22:07 | cait | hehe |
| 22:07 | we will fix things | |
| 22:07 | after you break them | |
| 22:07 | only fair | |
| 22:07 | jcamins_away | And by "we," cait means "you." :P |
| 22:08 | rangi | heh |
| 22:08 | cait | no |
| 22:08 | she doesn't! | |
| 22:08 | :) | |
| 22:08 | but i would appreciate someone fixing 6881 | |
| 22:09 | bug 6881 | |
| 22:09 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6881 critical, P5, ---, henridamien, NEW , Can't accept suggestions |
| 22:09 | cait | although I am a bit scared git blame will blame me |
| 22:09 | rangi | ahh |
| 22:10 | i might get a chance to look a tthat today | |
| 22:10 | cait | i was in there doing template changes recently |
| 22:10 | * cait | confesses now |
| 22:11 | cait | and before i get myself into more trouble... |
| 22:11 | i should go to bed :) | |
| 22:11 | bye #koha :) | |
| 22:17 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6900 - line break between available and reference items <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]01f47c497e22e6fd3> / Bug 6360 - add some more sounds to some happenings on returns <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]82f14e66471b3ec98> |
| 22:20 | cait left #koha | |
| 22:26 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #419: SUCCESS in 48 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/419/ |
| 22:26 | srdjan: bug_6576: Submit when changing framework rather then reloading | |
| 22:26 | Starting build 420 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) | |
| 22:32 | rangi | hmm it was cait :) |
| 22:33 | nvm, fixed now | |
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| 22:45 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6881] Can't accept suggestions <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6881> |
| 22:46 | rangi | i think that holds the record for my smallest patch eve |
| 22:46 | r | |
| 22:46 | :) | |
| 22:48 | gmcharlt | it's figuring out where to aim the hammer ... |
| 22:48 | rangi | :) |
| 22:49 | jcamins_away | rangi: eythian is the person to talk to about the nagios plugins for Koha? |
| 22:49 | eythian | yep |
| 22:49 | jcamins_away | eythian: good morning. |
| 22:50 | eythian | hiya |
| 22:51 | jcamins_away | eythian: so, any chance I could persuade you to share those plugins? |
| 22:51 | eythian | of course, one moment |
| 22:52 | jcamins_away | eythian++ |
| 22:53 | eythian | http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?[…]refs/heads/nagios <-- jcamins_away, all the code is in nagios/, and the branch name is nagios. |
| 22:53 | jcamins_away | Cool! |
| 22:54 | Thanks! | |
| 22:54 | eythian | It doesn't understand the packages, as I did it for a client who isn't yet using them, but it's been on my todo for a while to make it hook into them and be a bit smarter. |
| 22:54 | jcamins_away | There's even a readme! Awesome! |
| 22:54 | eythian | But that's hopefully enough for you to get going. |
| 22:54 | :) | |
| 22:54 | jcamins_away | Yup. |
| 22:54 | This leaves only one more technical issue that I haven't figured out. | |
| 22:54 | :) | |
| 22:55 | Well, that I haven't cribbed a solution to off of you. | |
| 22:55 | eythian | what's that? |
| 22:55 | heh | |
| 22:55 | * jcamins_away | takes lots of credit for cribbing all your solutions. |
| 22:55 | eythian | I'm OK with that ;) |
| 22:55 | jcamins_away | When I need to do upgrades for my two small clients on different days. |
| 22:55 | eythian | beer is a suitable trade :) |
| 22:55 | on the same machine? | |
| 22:55 | jcamins_away | Right. |
| 22:56 | eythian | we don't do that, we schedule a time to do it all at once. |
| 22:56 | jcamins_away | Using the packages makes it so much easier to manage the server, and upgrades are a snap, but I encountered a situation where I have to do one upgrade one week, and the other the next week |
| 22:57 | I went with the "move client B to a spare server temporarily" option. | |
| 22:57 | eythian | yeah, that's probably the easiest way. |
| 22:57 | jcamins_away | But I'm not sure I'd raise that to the level of "solution." More like "work-around." |
| 22:57 | eythian | at least a koha-dump/koha-restore should take care of it quickly. |
| 22:58 | Yeah, having multiple versions of packages at the same time is very difficult, and not something I'd like to have to support. | |
| 22:58 | jcamins_away | Yeah, and these are tiny installations. |
| 22:59 | eythian | hmm, I just noticed the nrpe_local.cfg is empty |
| 22:59 | I wonder what happened there. | |
| 23:00 | jcamins_away | I'm thinking the way to automate it would be to have a separate chroot jail for the system that gets upgraded first, then once the other is ready, switch it back to the main root. |
| 23:00 | * eythian | goes and grabs a copy from the server. |
| 23:00 | eythian | that's an option, although not too different from having another server really. |
| 23:01 | jcamins_away | Yeah, but with the difference that I could probably script it all, whereas I don't have the ability to script a move between servers. |
| 23:01 | eythian | ah right |
| 23:01 | good point | |
| 23:01 | jcamins_away | (not saying it couldn't be done, just that I couldn't do it) |
| 23:10 | But, anyway, you don't have any suggestions for how to do it other than the alternate server/chroot/vm option, correct? | |
| 23:14 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #420: SUCCESS in 47 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/420/ |
| 23:14 | * robin: Bug 6360 - add some more sounds to some happenings on returns | |
| 23:14 | * ruth: Bug 6900 - line break between available and reference items | |
| 23:14 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6360 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, robin, ASSIGNED , all messages on checkin should have sounds if soundson |
| 23:14 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6900 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, ruth, ASSIGNED , In XSLT, OPAC display of availability needs a line break when both loan and not-for-loan items present | |
| 23:15 | eythian | jcamins_away: not really I'm afraid. |
| 23:15 | jcamins_away | eythian: I didn't really expect you to have an answer, though you have had answers for every other technical difficulty that presented itself... thanks for thinking about it. :) |
| 23:15 | eythian++ # for solving problems | |
| 23:16 | eythian | heh :) if I really had to do it, I'd probably chuck a git checkout onto it and run from that for the week |
| 23:17 | jcamins_away | Hm. I guess that would probably make more sense. |
| 23:19 | Just change the paths in koha-conf.xml and the Apache conf file. | |
| 23:19 | Even easier than a chroot. Cool! | |
| 23:27 | eythian | yeah |
| 23:35 | oh, my kohacon flying-home time has changed, so I don't have to be up at godawful in the morning the day after the conference. | |
| 23:35 | that's good | |
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| 23:52 | jcamins_away | eythian: check to make sure they didn't move the second leg to the next day. |
| 23:53 | BobB_ joined #koha | |
| 23:55 | eythian | jcamins_away: no, it ends up I leave about 4 hours later, and arrive here about 2 hours later. |
| 23:55 | a net gain really | |
| 23:56 | jcamins_away | Very nice. |
| 23:59 | Time for pizza. | |
| 23:59 | Good night, #koha |
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