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| 00:39 | druthb | o/ |
| 00:57 | eythian | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJNBfBr-OGU <-- "Ain't no party like a Pyongyang party, 'cause a Pyongyang party is ABSOLUTELY MANDATORY" |
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| 04:29 | rangi | hi cait |
| 04:29 | eythian | hi cait |
| 04:30 | cait | hi eythian and rangi :) |
| 04:41 | * mtj | waves to cait tooo :) |
| 04:41 | cait | hi mason :) |
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| 05:06 | Brooke | 0/ |
| 05:07 | cait | hi Brooke - go back to bed |
| 05:07 | Brooke | you assume I went there in the first place :P |
| 05:29 | cait | it gets cold in the mornings :( |
| 05:29 | @wunder Konstanz | |
| 05:29 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 7.3°C (7:29 AM CEST on September 19, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 95%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Windchill: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.87 in 1011.4 hPa (Steady). |
| 05:29 | cait | uuuh |
| 05:29 | * Brooke | passes cait a pendleton blanket. |
| 05:31 | cait | I imagine does don't work to well at work |
| 05:31 | does = those | |
| 05:51 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6883] User permissions SQL File Translation <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6883> |
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| 06:19 | alex_a | hello |
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| 06:41 | sobia | hi room |
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| 06:42 | reiveune | hello |
| 06:42 | sobia | anyone there waking? |
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| 06:57 | francharb | hello #koha |
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| 06:58 | saim_bu | hi |
| 06:58 | can someone help me in zebra searching problem? | |
| 07:02 | eythian | saim_bu: that depends on what the problem is. |
| 07:02 | oh. | |
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| 07:16 | kf | good morning #koha! |
| 07:18 | sophie_m | hi kf ? |
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| 07:21 | kf | hi sophie_m :) |
| 07:22 | sophie_m | hi kf (without ? ;-) ) |
| 07:28 | kf | ah :) |
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| 07:33 | rangi | hmm sometimes i dont understand people |
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| 07:46 | kf | only sometimes? |
| 07:47 | rangi | hehe |
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| 08:30 | Carl430 | Hi there! |
| 08:30 | I have a question about multiple card numbers. | |
| 08:30 | kf | ask ) |
| 08:30 | * rangi | waits |
| 08:30 | kf | :) |
| 08:31 | Carl430 | well, do you use "Additional attributes and identifiers"? |
| 08:31 | or, how do you insert several card numbers? | |
| 08:32 | rangi | you want mulitple cardnumbers for a single borrower? |
| 08:32 | why? | |
| 08:32 | Carl430 | well, our patrons have several card numbers today. :-) |
| 08:32 | rangi | why? |
| 08:32 | Carl430 | good question... |
| 08:33 | kf | Carl430: that will not work with koha |
| 08:33 | Carl430 | ok |
| 08:33 | kf | one cardnumber for each borrower |
| 08:33 | Carl430 | ok |
| 08:33 | kf | you can use the opac-login for another username in opac |
| 08:33 | rangi | its the unique identifier for a borrower |
| 08:33 | kf | so they can log in with cardnumber + password and opac login + password |
| 08:33 | Carl430 | aha |
| 08:33 | kf | but circulation will only work with cardnumber |
| 08:33 | rangi | you could store the other cardnumbers in a notes field if you wanted |
| 08:34 | but it would just be informational only | |
| 08:34 | they wouldnt be used for anything | |
| 08:34 | Carl430 | notes field... ok, just information |
| 08:34 | not for use | |
| 08:34 | I understand | |
| 08:34 | we have to contemplate this matter I guess... | |
| 08:35 | rangi | what im wondering is what you would use multiple cardnumbers for? |
| 08:36 | Carl430 | well, today our student use their library card, but also their campus card |
| 08:36 | it's a long story | |
| 08:37 | rangi | you could use the campus card for their userid, so they could login to the opac, and you can checkout using their name (if they dont have their library card on them) |
| 08:37 | or just pick one :-) | |
| 08:37 | Carl430 | yes |
| 08:37 | ok, thank you for quick feedback! | |
| 08:38 | cheers from Sweden! | |
| 08:38 | rangi | ;) |
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| 08:49 | kf | ah, now I was too slow :) |
| 08:49 | rangi | ? |
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| 09:17 | rangi | hello matts |
| 09:17 | hmm magnuse | |
| 09:17 | wahanui | magnuse is afraid that we added another 10000 bugs while he was eating pizza. |
| 09:17 | rangi | and matts :) |
| 09:18 | matts | hello ! |
| 09:20 | magnuse | kia ora! |
| 09:21 | kf | hi matts |
| 09:34 | magnuse | wish me luck for tuesday and wednesday - i'll be giving a crash course in installing and maintaining koha to 2 or 3 people from University of Juba... |
| 09:35 | rangi | ohh, with the packages i hope? |
| 09:36 | magnuse | no, we'll run through a manual install, as an opportunity to look at the different bits and pieces that make up an installation |
| 09:36 | with the packages it would be done in 5 minutes... ;-) | |
| 09:37 | rangi | as it should be :) |
| 09:37 | magnuse | yeah, but just doing "sudp apt-get install koha" doesn't give you much to go if something fails... |
| 09:38 | rangi | yep, so you could teach them about logs, and where to look to debug if the install failed |
| 09:38 | magnuse | yeah, stuff like that |
| 09:39 | kf | good luck :) |
| 09:39 | magnuse | thanks |
| 10:05 | kf | lunch time |
| 10:05 | maccaroni with cheese today :) | |
| 10:06 | magnuse | yay |
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| 10:08 | Brooke | kia ora |
| 10:08 | magnuse | hiya Brooke! |
| 10:09 | Brooke | ho there :) |
| 10:52 | rangi | hmm i wonder who did http://catalogue.unilim.fr/ |
| 10:53 | kf | hm guessing - biblibre? |
| 10:55 | rangi | hdl: do you know? |
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| 11:31 | hdl | rangi: uns. |
| 11:31 | rangi: kf BibLibre did | |
| 11:31 | rangi: why ? | |
| 11:36 | kf | hdl: we were wondering about the version number in the code |
| 11:36 | rangi | just the version number |
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| 11:55 | jcamins_away | magnuse: oh, I know the person who started the librarian training program at the University of Juba. Seems like a pretty great school. :) |
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| 12:02 | tcohen | mornin' |
| 12:02 | jcamins_away | Morning. |
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| 12:17 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
| 12:17 | jcamins | Good morning, oleonard. |
| 12:21 | tcohen | rangi, will bug 6193 make it in? |
| 12:21 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6193 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, tomascohen, ASSIGNED , Use memcached cache koha-conf.xml configuration variables |
| 12:22 | magnuse | jcamins: cool! small world... ;-) |
| 12:22 | kf | tcohen: I think it needs testing |
| 12:22 | ah no, it's signed off... ignore me | |
| 12:22 | tcohen: actually bug 6139 is confusing - it's marked signed-off but I see no sign-off and no signed-off patch | |
| 12:22 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6139 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Automatic incrementation of call number does not work if given prefix contains a ' |
| 12:23 | kf | tcohen: wrong status? if it has not been tested you should set it back to needs signoff and perhaps ask around to find someone to test it |
| 12:23 | tcohen: rangi has gone to bed - but I pestered him yesterday about deadlines | |
| 12:25 | tcohen: new features should ge ttested until 22nd | |
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| 12:42 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6193] Use memcached cache koha-conf.xml configuration variables <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6193> |
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| 13:15 | oleonard | Re: message to Koha list about suggestions emails, that's not a Koha feature is it? Sending an email to the librarian with new suggestions? |
| 13:16 | jcamins | Not to my knowledge, but I thought maybe I was confused, and was letting someone else respond. |
| 13:16 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6884] Improve TinyMCE configuration on Koha News page <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6884> |
| 13:18 | * oleonard | responds as such |
| 13:27 | kf | oleonard: I think you are right |
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| 13:27 | kf | hi sekjal |
| 13:28 | sekjal | hi, kf |
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| 13:46 | wizzyrea | mornin |
| 13:46 | oleonard | Hi sekjal, wizzyrea |
| 13:46 | sekjal | morning, oleonard |
| 13:47 | wizzyrea | oleonard: that guy has CRAZY email requirements in the first place |
| 13:47 | a very draconian setup | |
| 13:47 | (the email servers they use, I mean) | |
| 13:49 | I just realized I don't think there is any documentation on managing purchase suggestions | |
| 13:49 | oleonard | http://koha-community.org/docu[…]ual-en/?ch=x10375 |
| 13:50 | wizzyrea | that page doesn't load for me :( |
| 13:50 | but it might be me | |
| 13:51 | oleonard | If the web site had a grudge against anyone for messing around with its private parts, it would be you wizzyrea |
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| 13:51 | wizzyrea | :) |
| 13:51 | in fact I know it's me | |
| 13:51 | sheesh | |
| 13:53 | you gonna send him that link or you want me to? now that my computer has gotten it's mind back. | |
| 13:53 | * oleonard | did |
| 13:53 | wizzyrea | spectacular |
| 13:54 | oleonard++ | |
| 14:05 | jwagner | I tried responding to him a couple of times, but the listserv seems to be holding up my email for moderator approval, sigh. Guess it doesn't like the screenshots he included |
| 14:05 | wizzyrea | urf |
| 14:05 | oleonard | Trim your reply? |
| 14:05 | jwagner | Next time I will.... |
| 14:06 | wizzyrea | I helped him with his email thing, which they ended up doing local changes for (sheesh) |
| 14:06 | but, the patch I sent to help his problem did help them fix it, in the end | |
| 14:06 | (for patron suggestions) | |
| 14:06 | no | |
| 14:06 | urg | |
| 14:07 | patron *updates* | |
| 14:07 | * wizzyrea | is quiet now |
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| 14:57 | kresp0 | hi all |
| 14:57 | anyone have ideas about this error ? Can't call method "subfield" on an undefined value at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Biblio.pm line 2672. | |
| 14:57 | it appears when trying to add the first item | |
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| 14:58 | Oak | kia ora #koha |
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| 15:12 | kf | kresp0: is this a new install or an updated install? |
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| 15:13 | kresp0 | a new install |
| 15:14 | kf: but maybe not a "fresh one", as i attempted to install koha on the past | |
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| 15:29 | tcohen | hi kf |
| 15:29 | sorry I had to be out several hour | |
| 15:29 | s | |
| 15:30 | I think biblibre people that tested the patch | |
| 15:30 | forgot to send it with the sign-off | |
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| 15:37 | fcapo | Are there any usage restrictions on the Koha logo? ie. is the Koha logo unden an open license? |
| 15:42 | * oleonard | wishes he knew the legal answer to that |
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| 15:56 | tcohen | kf? r u there? |
| 16:13 | jcamins | tcohen: kf left. |
| 16:13 | tcohen | thanks jcamins |
| 16:13 | i'm leaving too, regards | |
| 16:13 | libsysguy | whoa jcamins why are you not jcamins_away |
| 16:14 | i feel awkward since you are here hehe | |
| 16:14 | here in a digital sense | |
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| 16:42 | jcamins | libsysguy: and, ironically, I wasn't here! |
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| 16:47 | libsysguy | haha that is funny jcamins |
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| 17:05 | libsysguy | anybody know whats up with the GetIssuingRule function |
| 17:06 | sekjal | libsysguy: how do you mean? |
| 17:08 | libsysguy | well there is this really terrible comment in a FixMe |
| 17:09 | I was only looking at it because it was giving me the all/all/all rule for an item that has a clearly defined rule | |
| 17:09 | sekjal | hmmm. is the branch code portion of it pulling from the expected place? |
| 17:09 | branch could mean homebranch, holdingbranch or patron branch, depending on your settings | |
| 17:10 | libsysguy | that is what i was just about to run a check on and see exactly what its getting passed |
| 17:16 | hmm the itemtype is blank...odd | |
| 17:16 | guess that would do it | |
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| 17:19 | Brooke | 0/ |
| 17:21 | libsysguy | sekjal I need some advice |
| 17:22 | I am passing an item to calcfine just like it needs...but it is calling for $item->{itemtype}...but in the database its itype | |
| 17:22 | is it should read $item->{itype} | |
| 17:22 | but if I change it...it could break some other parts of Koha | |
| 17:23 | I think the only other place that CalcFine gets used is in the fines script | |
| 17:23 | but I'm not sure | |
| 17:23 | * Brooke | hands libsysguy a cookie for bravery. |
| 17:23 | * libsysguy | accepts cookie :) |
| 17:24 | Brooke | perhaps the schema might show what would break? |
| 17:25 | libsysguy | the db schema or does the codebase have a schema? |
| 17:25 | Brooke | although the caveat I think would be should and does |
| 17:25 | erm lemme look up the thinger that folks just posted someplace... | |
| 17:25 | but sekjal is of course better ;) | |
| 17:26 | libsysguy | haha well you know...I always look to sekjal for solid advice that will keep me out of trouble |
| 17:26 | Brooke | http://schema.koha-community.org/index.html |
| 17:27 | thankfully we have redundant keep you out of trouble mentors like gmcharlt and chris in the multiplicity of chrisness | |
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| 17:27 | Brooke | 0/ |
| 17:27 | libsysguy | oh yeah the db schema...yeah I wish it was just a DB thing...but I need to know where its used in the codebase :'( |
| 17:27 | to grep | |
| 17:27 | sekjal | libsysguy: sorry, had to duck out. back |
| 17:27 | libsysguy | its cool |
| 17:28 | cait | hi there |
| 17:28 | libsysguy | so it looks like the Getoverdues function aliases that column to itemtype |
| 17:28 | ...frustrating | |
| 17:28 | sekjal | libsysguy: are you on the hourly loans branch, or master, for this? |
| 17:28 | libsysguy | hourly |
| 17:29 | I was attempting to implement that click to fine function on a checkin | |
| 17:29 | if I could get this piece done I would be golden | |
| 17:29 | sekjal | what line is the call to $items->{itemtype} on, in what file? |
| 17:29 | libsysguy | with no additional queries :D |
| 17:29 | its in OVerdues.pm | |
| 17:29 | Overdues** | |
| 17:29 | and the function is in CalcFine | |
| 17:30 | sekjal | looking |
| 17:30 | libsysguy | it looks like that function only gets called in a test module and in the fines script |
| 17:31 | so I think it would be safe to remove that alias | |
| 17:32 | sekjal | yeah, not sure why it's renaming itype to itemtype |
| 17:33 | libsysguy | me either but its causing me pain |
| 17:33 | sekjal | that doesn't really seem necessary, and only creates confusion |
| 17:33 | Oak | Hello Brooke !! |
| 17:33 | heya cait | |
| 17:33 | * Brooke | hugs Oak |
| 17:33 | libsysguy | agreed...for now on my local branch I'll remove it |
| 17:33 | Oak | :] |
| 17:33 | libsysguy | I'm not going to commit any of this until hourly is ready to go into master |
| 17:33 | jcamins | It's renaming itype to itemtype so that item-level and bib-level itemtypes will both work. |
| 17:34 | libsysguy | ohh...hmm |
| 17:34 | * Oak | just watched New York, I Love You. again. |
| 17:34 | cait | hi Oak |
| 17:35 | sekjal | ah, yes... if I'd read more than just the single SQL statement... |
| 17:35 | libsysguy | haha its ok thats all I was looking at too |
| 17:35 | sekjal | renaming it makes the output consistent regardless of what the setting for item-level_itypes is |
| 17:36 | libsysguy | so is there anything I can do? |
| 17:37 | sekjal | I don't really see what you'd need to change |
| 17:37 | Getoverdues outputs the item type as "itemtype" instead of "itype", and that's just slurped in by CalcFine | |
| 17:38 | libsysguy | right...but if I am using calcfine from another function that doesn't have that alias |
| 17:38 | sekjal | so you'd just need to put a 'itemtype' key in the hashref you feed CalcFine |
| 17:38 | libsysguy | i suppose I ....yeah taht |
| 17:38 | sekjal | or add a fallback line in CalcFine to try "itype" if "itemtype" is undefined |
| 17:39 | libsysguy | that may be a better solution |
| 17:39 | wizzyrea | so, do we consider the packages acceptable for adding them to the download page on k-c.org? |
| 17:40 | I wonder if we should be encouraging their use from there. | |
| 17:40 | (i'm almost sure we should be) | |
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| 17:43 | jcamins | wizzyrea: I'd think so, yes. |
| 17:43 | wizzyrea | At the very least, I think we should say "pakages for debian are available" |
| 17:43 | and link | |
| 17:44 | jcamins | Agreed. |
| 17:46 | wizzyrea | http://koha-community.org/download-koha/ |
| 17:47 | jcamins | Take out the (Experimental) Debian packages for Koha? |
| 17:48 | wizzyrea | yea I just saw that, it's gone now |
| 17:48 | with the caveat that I haven't cleared the cache | |
| 17:48 | so you might still see it | |
| 17:52 | Brooke | sexy |
| 17:52 | that's part Robin's work, yes? | |
| 17:56 | wizzyrea | ya |
| 17:59 | cait | hi trea :) |
| 17:59 | Brooke | eythian++ |
| 17:59 | cait | and magnuse++ :) |
| 17:59 | Brooke | is there anything magnuse++ doesn't do? |
| 18:00 | trea | hi cait |
| 18:02 | cait | Brooke: hmm. not that I am aware of |
| 18:02 | Brooke | hey trea |
| 18:06 | trea | hi Brooke |
| 18:13 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6885] Superlibrarian users can't delete items from another library when IndependantBranches <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6885> |
| 18:14 | fredericd | wizzyrea: How to add an entry here: http://koha-community.org/demo/ ? |
| 18:14 | libsysguy | sekjal, I just wanted to let you know that I got the check for hourly working on checkin with no additional queries |
| 18:15 | cait | fredericd: there is matching page on the wiki |
| 18:15 | not sure how the table on this page is done | |
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| 18:15 | wizzyrea | you tell me and I add it |
| 18:15 | fredericd | cait: hello. I create an account, with some permissions I could edit this page myself... |
| 18:16 | A Koha 3.4.5 | |
| 18:16 | OPAC: kopac.tamil.fr | |
| 18:16 | pro: kpro.tamil.fr -- demo/demo | |
| 18:17 | thanks | |
| 18:17 | wizzyrea | sure |
| 18:17 | fredericd | and UNIMARC |
| 18:19 | wizzyrea | fredericd: done |
| 18:21 | cait | wizzyrea++ |
| 18:22 | Brooke | wizzyrea++ |
| 18:23 | thanks for the demo | |
| 18:23 | wizzyrea | yw yw |
| 18:23 | :) | |
| 18:23 | Brooke | the more up there the better frederic :) |
| 18:23 | wizzyrea | fredericd++ |
| 18:24 | Brooke | fredericd++ |
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| 18:29 | cait | fredericd++ |
| 18:30 | fcapo | Repeating a previous question : Are there any usage restrictions on the Koha logo? ie. is the Koha logo under an open license? |
| 18:31 | wizzyrea | tricky question, imo |
| 18:32 | rangi | You are welcome to download and use these logos/graphics for the promotion and publicity of the Koha Library System. You may not use them for any other purpose. |
| 18:32 | wizzyrea | potentially weird TM ramifications in the US |
| 18:32 | rangi | is what rachel, who designed the logo released them as |
| 18:32 | wizzyrea | there you have it |
| 18:32 | anywhere else, and you're probably cool. | |
| 18:33 | Brooke | morning Mr. Rangi. |
| 18:33 | rangi | morning |
| 18:33 | fcapo | ok, thanks. |
| 18:33 | * oleonard | wonders what lawyers would make of that "license" |
| 18:34 | fcapo | Would be useful to have that written somewhere. In wikipedia, it seems the default "This image is under copyright" is used. |
| 18:35 | oleonard | It is under copyright, but with certain uses allowed (as I understand it) |
| 18:36 | rangi | thats pretty much how all licenses work |
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| 19:02 | wizzyrea | you know I am looking at this opac |
| 19:02 | the nexpress one | |
| 19:02 | and I realized that I didn't look at more than 5% of the marc data that is displayed there | |
| 19:02 | fredericd | wizzyrea: thanks for your responsivness |
| 19:02 | wizzyrea | yw :) |
| 19:02 | fredericd | wizzyrea++ |
| 19:03 | oleonard | wizzyrea: Yeah, the kind of data we really want to see usually isn't in MARC. |
| 19:05 | Oak | wizzyrea++ |
| 19:05 | wizzyrea | whoa whoa |
| 19:05 | lol | |
| 19:05 | cait | hehe |
| 19:05 | don't make her explode | |
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| 19:05 | * cait | sends a cookie to liz instead of karma |
| 19:05 | wizzyrea | ty :) |
| 19:06 | oleonard | it would be interesting if IRC karma had a chorewars gold exchange rate. |
| 19:07 | Brooke | ooooh |
| 19:07 | Oak | :) |
| 19:07 | fredericd | rangi: About bug 6755... |
| 19:07 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6755 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, m.de.rooy, ASSIGNED , Problems with switching languages |
| 19:07 | Brooke | oleornard++ |
| 19:07 | wizzyrea++ | |
| 19:07 | fredericd | it really hurts multilingual installations |
| 19:07 | wizzyrea | lol stop it |
| 19:07 | oleonard | Even more interesting if I could spend my gold on something :) |
| 19:07 | * Brooke | likes the cut of oleonard's jib. |
| 19:07 | wizzyrea | hehe |
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| 19:11 | Brooke | 0/ |
| 19:11 | talljoy | Is callnumber_search.pl still used in Koha? (current release) |
| 19:11 | o/ Brooke | |
| 19:14 | oleonard | talljoy: My search doesn't turn up any references to it |
| 19:15 | talljoy | I think I'm dealing with an archaic Koha. museum piece. ;) |
| 19:15 | or a customization. | |
| 19:16 | cait | never heard of it, but doesn't mean much :) |
| 19:17 | wizzyrea | well we could look for it in 2.2 I guess |
| 19:17 | sekjal | callnumber can be searched with Zebra: callnum,wrdl: <<term>> |
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| 19:19 | wizzyrea | talljoy: what directory is it in? |
| 19:19 | oleonard | "Your branch and 'origin/master' have diverged,and have 1 and 1875 different commit(s) each, respectively" Hmph. |
| 19:21 | talljoy | wizzyrea: it is referenced in cgi-bin/koha/cataloguing/callnumber_search.pl |
| 19:21 | sekjal: i reccommended he try that option. ;) as opposed to a development request to add this! | |
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| 19:32 | cait | sekjal: around |
| 19:32 | ? | |
| 19:34 | nengard joined #koha | |
| 19:34 | libsysguy_afk | seeking sekjal |
| 19:34 | sekjal | sorry, in a meeting at the moment... hopefully will be done soon |
| 19:34 | cait | sekjal: no problem :) |
| 19:34 | libsysguy | ^^ |
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| 19:35 | wizzyrea | that must be local talljoy |
| 19:35 | (I got pulled off to the side sorry | |
| 19:36 | talljoy | no prob. I think it is very old. the script itself says 'it is part of Koha, copyright 2000-2002' |
| 19:36 | like to see it? | |
| 19:36 | wizzyrea | sure why not |
| 19:37 | talljoy | where do i paste? |
| 19:38 | oleonard | http://paste.koha-community.org/ |
| 19:38 | cait | paste? |
| 19:38 | wahanui | somebody said paste was found at http://paste.koha-community.org |
| 19:38 | cait | hm |
| 19:38 | where do I paste? | |
| 19:38 | wizzyrea | where do I paste is found at http://paste.koha-community.org |
| 19:38 | where do I paste? | |
| 19:39 | cait | wahanui: you missed your chance! |
| 19:39 | wahanui | cait: excuse me? |
| 19:39 | wizzyrea | hrmph |
| 19:39 | cait | hehe |
| 19:39 | oh wahanui | |
| 19:39 | talljoy | i got it. sheesh... |
| 19:39 | lol | |
| 19:39 | * wizzyrea | pokes talljoy |
| 19:39 | cait | why are you poking her? |
| 19:39 | pastebot | "talljoy" at 99.27.151.96 pasted "old koha" (138 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/38 |
| 19:39 | wizzyrea | a friendly ribbing |
| 19:39 | * cait | pokes liz to see what this is about |
| 19:39 | wizzyrea | :) |
| 19:39 | * wizzyrea | giggles |
| 19:40 | cait | :D |
| 19:40 | wizzyrea | much like the pillsbury doughboy |
| 19:40 | talljoy | it's not formatted pretty. but happy reading. |
| 19:40 | spoke to soon. it formatted nicely in there. | |
| 19:40 | * wizzyrea | wonders if that's a harleyism. |
| 19:41 | wizzyrea | could check I spose. |
| 19:41 | talljoy | unknown. They are not previous clients.....but they may have gotten a copy somewhere and done their own install i suppose. |
| 19:41 | cait | just a friendly reminder: people go and sign off on patches - 22nd is near! |
| 19:42 | nengard | hello #koha family |
| 19:42 | libsysguy | hey nengard :D |
| 19:43 | nengard | howdy |
| 19:43 | cait | hi nengard! :) |
| 19:43 | how are you doing? | |
| 19:43 | nengard | little scare last night ended me back in the hospital - but i'm home and doing much better today |
| 19:43 | kinda scared to get that bill ..... | |
| 19:44 | wizzyrea | !!! |
| 19:44 | cait | oh :( |
| 19:44 | what happened? | |
| 19:44 | wizzyrea | eek signoffs |
| 19:44 | cait | wizzyrea: correct - signoff |
| 19:44 | s | |
| 19:45 | I can't do them all - need help :) | |
| 19:45 | wizzyrea | i have a couple of pets in there that need signoff too. |
| 19:45 | i'm going to work on it... tomorrow, maybe today | |
| 19:45 | libsysguy | I have a pet that is signed off |
| 19:46 | :'( | |
| 19:46 | but its hourly so I really need something other than prod testing done on it | |
| 19:46 | * wizzyrea | wouldn't even know where to begin |
| 19:46 | wizzyrea | on that |
| 19:46 | cait | :( |
| 19:46 | but it would be so nice to have that working | |
| 19:46 | * oleonard | doesn't know where to begin on a lot of the needs signoff bugs |
| 19:47 | cait | I am concentrating a bit on acq right now |
| 19:47 | because it's my big pet | |
| 19:47 | perhaps we can talk about it and figure out something together? | |
| 19:47 | wizzyrea | talljoy: doesn't look like it's in harley |
| 19:47 | cait | someone has a lost pet he wants to take up for adoption? |
| 19:48 | I would be happy if someone could sign-off on the last follow up for bug 6390 | |
| 19:48 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6390 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, ef, ASSIGNED , Basket only visible for librarian who created it |
| 19:51 | nengard | wizzyrea chest pains |
| 19:51 | cait | nengard: :( but all ok now? |
| 19:51 | nengard | turns out it was just reflux - which is nothing to laugh at... |
| 19:51 | yup | |
| 19:51 | all okay | |
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| 19:52 | wizzyrea | nengard: glad you're well now though |
| 19:52 | nengard | thanks - me too |
| 19:58 | rangi | back |
| 19:58 | Brooke | wb |
| 19:58 | nengard | hi |
| 20:00 | * Brooke | is gonna skeddaddle out to the Liberry |
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| 20:16 | talljoy | rangi: you recognize this? "old koha" (138 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/38 |
| 20:16 | i'm trying to track down the source. | |
| 20:16 | sekjal | back |
| 20:17 | rangi | whats the name of the script? |
| 20:19 | the copyright header is def wrong | |
| 20:20 | thats a straight cut and paste | |
| 20:20 | talljoy | callnumber_search.pl |
| 20:20 | that's what they sent me. | |
| 20:20 | rangi | ill search when im off the bus |
| 20:21 | talljoy | rangi: no rush. thanks. |
| 20:23 | Oak | good night folks |
| 20:23 | 1:30 am here | |
| 20:23 | cait | night Oak |
| 20:23 | nah, too slow | |
| 20:23 | rangi | I can tell you its not that old |
| 20:23 | itemcallnumber on the items table didn't exist til 2007 ish | |
| 20:24 | but ill see what I can find when I have access to my git checkout :) | |
| 20:24 | cait | ok, question for people who know things about sports |
| 20:25 | is a '2-out Grand Slam Home Run' something good? | |
| 20:25 | wizzyrea | ya |
| 20:26 | rangi | yes |
| 20:26 | wizzyrea | it's super good :) |
| 20:26 | rangi | https://kiwicon.org/the-con/talks/ |
| 20:26 | ask bg cait | |
| 20:26 | wizzyrea | how to explain... |
| 20:26 | cait | bg? |
| 20:26 | wahanui | I LIKE BREAKFAST BURRITOS AND I LOVE BASEBALL |
| 20:26 | cait | hehe |
| 20:26 | rangi | its a baseball thing |
| 20:26 | ok my stop bbiab | |
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| 20:27 | cait | rangi: I got that far |
| 20:27 | wizzyrea | did you do something really good at the last minute that totally saved the day? |
| 20:27 | because that's what it means in a nutshell | |
| 20:28 | cait | wizzyrea: no, we are talking about real baseball here |
| 20:28 | wizzyrea | oh |
| 20:28 | cait | I know someone who did it |
| 20:28 | wizzyrea | Ooo |
| 20:28 | then they did something really good at the last minute that scored 4 runs | |
| 20:28 | thd-away` joined #koha | |
| 20:28 | wizzyrea | where "last minute" = with 2 players "out" out of 3 possible. |
| 20:29 | * wizzyrea | is probably not helping |
| 20:29 | will be quiet | |
| 20:29 | * cait | sends liz more cookies |
| 20:29 | cait | no, you are very helpful |
| 20:29 | wizzyrea | lol |
| 20:29 | cait | go and get yourself some xp :) |
| 20:36 | rangi | back |
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| 20:47 | cait | 2 signed-off... who does the next few? :) |
| 20:48 | rangi | cait++ |
| 20:48 | wizzyrea | i'm looking at bug 6488 |
| 20:48 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6488 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, srdjan, ASSIGNED , opachiddenitems not working in master |
| 20:48 | wizzyrea | but I'm a bit unclear on what he means when he says "holes" |
| 20:48 | I see that if you hide all of the items on a bib, the bib still shows | |
| 20:48 | that seems ok | |
| 20:49 | cait | hm Ithought it meant the counting would be wrong |
| 20:49 | like jumping numbers or something | |
| 20:49 | wizzyrea | yea, I didn't understand |
| 20:49 | oh, that could be... | |
| 20:49 | let me check | |
| 20:50 | yes, cait | |
| 20:50 | that's totally it | |
| 20:50 | thank you | |
| 20:50 | now, do I care? | |
| 20:50 | * wizzyrea | thinks about it |
| 20:51 | cait | is it better than before? |
| 20:51 | wizzyrea | well the hiding works |
| 20:51 | cait | does it break something or is horrible confusing? |
| 20:51 | * wizzyrea | resets brain to patron |
| 20:51 | cait | lol |
| 20:51 | * cait | imainges liz pushing a little button on her head |
| 20:51 | wizzyrea | http://screencast.com/t/iQiINclQi1S |
| 20:52 | that's what it looks like | |
| 20:52 | no, I don't think it's confusing | |
| 20:52 | why do they have numbers in the first place? | |
| 20:52 | i mean, it's confusing that it's skipping numbers, but only if you're looking for it | |
| 20:53 | and strictly speaking | |
| 20:53 | ketchup | safe? |
| 20:53 | wizzyrea | it's not showing the preference number of items per page |
| 20:53 | buuut | |
| 20:53 | again, do we care? | |
| 20:54 | if we do, I can't pass it | |
| 20:54 | does that count as a regression? | |
| 20:55 | cait | hi rhcl: safe? :) |
| 20:55 | rhcl | reference to something wizzyrea said earlier that invoked ketchup safe mode |
| 20:55 | wizzyrea | what'd I do? |
| 20:56 | cait | ketchup safe mode? |
| 20:56 | not sure being named ketchup is very safe, you could get eaten by accident | |
| 20:56 | * wizzyrea | ponders slathering rhcl all over a hotdog |
| 20:56 | wizzyrea | then dipping fries |
| 20:56 | actually | |
| 20:56 | I don't really like ketchup :P | |
| 20:57 | cait | wizzyrea: I think it is a little confusing, but better than not hiding things |
| 20:57 | perhapsmake it an enhancement to correct the numbering? | |
| 20:57 | rhcl | I can also be mustard |
| 20:57 | wizzyrea | I do like mustard |
| 20:58 | rhcl | but I'm spicy brown mustard, must use with care |
| 20:58 | rangi | fredericd: bug 6755 needs to get a sign off, then pass qa, then ill look at it again |
| 20:58 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6755 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, m.de.rooy, ASSIGNED , Problems with switching languages |
| 21:04 | wizzyrea | @later tell manguse I got the gamification book ;) |
| 21:04 | huginn | wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. |
| 21:05 | wizzyrea | @later tell magnuse I got the gamification book ;) (and thanks for the coupon!) |
| 21:05 | huginn | wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. |
| 21:05 | wizzyrea | manguse just won't work. |
| 21:05 | stupid spelling. | |
| 21:06 | cait | hehe |
| 21:16 | wizzyrea | alright, for opachiddenitems |
| 21:16 | if you hide *all* of the items | |
| 21:16 | do you still want to see the bib? | |
| 21:16 | man, i'd like to sign off on this but I don't think I can :/ | |
| 21:17 | sekjal | if you want to hide the bib, set 942$n = 1 |
| 21:17 | wizzyrea | I knew that |
| 21:17 | but | |
| 21:17 | if you have a bib and all items are suppressed... | |
| 21:17 | you think it's ok to still see the 'no holdings' bib? | |
| 21:18 | sekjal | could still have 856$u |
| 21:18 | or serial holdings | |
| 21:18 | wizzyrea | that would be one case where you wouldn't want that behaviour, for sure |
| 21:19 | rangi | well if you have chosen to hide all the items |
| 21:19 | not hide the bib | |
| 21:19 | i think you have chosen to show the bib and not the items | |
| 21:19 | otherwise you'd just do what sekjal said | |
| 21:19 | 942n | |
| 21:20 | wizzyrea | well here's what I'm thinking |
| 21:20 | and you can totally shoot me down | |
| 21:20 | and you probably will | |
| 21:20 | ;) | |
| 21:20 | but item suppression is kind of automatic | |
| 21:20 | you give it a class of items to hide | |
| 21:20 | and it hides them all | |
| 21:20 | bib suppression is manual | |
| 21:20 | you have to go set it | |
| 21:21 | so | |
| 21:21 | what I'm seeing, for example | |
| 21:21 | is what if you suppress a class of items | |
| 21:21 | cait | I am not going to shoot you, because that makes sense so far :) |
| 21:21 | rangi | what if you want to show a bib and not its items |
| 21:21 | wizzyrea | you may or may not know that all of the items are suppressed |
| 21:21 | rangi | how would you do it, if it starting hiding your bibs |
| 21:22 | wizzyrea | so you'd have unintentionally empty bibs set out there |
| 21:22 | rangi | or unintentionally hidden biblios in the other case |
| 21:22 | wizzyrea | yea, so you're pretty well damned if you do damned if you don't |
| 21:22 | rangi | if you were gonna do it right |
| 21:22 | you'd have an option | |
| 21:23 | hide biblios with all items hidden | |
| 21:23 | but even then, you still mgith want to show some and not others | |
| 21:23 | wizzyrea | "set the 942$n = 1 when all bibs will be hidden" |
| 21:23 | "or don't" | |
| 21:23 | rangi | yeah |
| 21:24 | wizzyrea | but you see my conundrum |
| 21:24 | rangi | i personally think the syspref and code is to hide items |
| 21:24 | not to hide biblios | |
| 21:24 | so you are scope creeping it | |
| 21:24 | wizzyrea | that's fair |
| 21:24 | rangi | and another bug to offer the option to hide biblios when all items are hidden would be a goodish approach |
| 21:25 | wizzyrea | I can definitely envision a scenario in NExpress where hiding the items would leave empty bibs |
| 21:25 | rangi | yup |
| 21:25 | wizzyrea | but it might be a people problem |
| 21:25 | (bad cataloging) | |
| 21:25 | rangi | but that might not be a bad thing |
| 21:25 | because the biblio might have an ebook link | |
| 21:25 | wizzyrea | (i.e. if people would use the right framework for their ILL, it'd never show up in the first place) |
| 21:26 | no an empty bib isn't inherently bad | |
| 21:26 | I get that | |
| 21:26 | rangi | so i dont think we can automatically hide them, i think that would be worse than having empty |
| 21:26 | specially since you might never find out they arent showing up | |
| 21:26 | wizzyrea | an empty bib that confuses patrons -> i.e. "do they have this? it looks like they should... but I can't have it" is bad. |
| 21:27 | but, probably not in the scope of this particular patch | |
| 21:27 | ok I feel better now. | |
| 21:28 | cait | hm |
| 21:29 | I think empty bibs are bad | |
| 21:29 | and it would be nice to be able to hide them | |
| 21:29 | but perhaps should be an option | |
| 21:29 | wizzyrea | you can hide them, with the 942$n = 1 |
| 21:29 | cait | in german catalogs an ebook would always have it's own record |
| 21:29 | wizzyrea | but it's not automatic |
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| 21:29 | cait | and if all items are damaged or lost and you want to hide those, the print records should be hidden too |
| 21:29 | wizzyrea: worse, it doesnot work with our union catlaog setting | |
| 21:30 | because the 942 $n would be overwritten | |
| 21:30 | wizzyrea | oof |
| 21:30 | cait | when something in the record is changed on union catalog level |
| 21:30 | so hiding it with hidiing items would be cool :) | |
| 21:30 | but I can see it as an enh | |
| 21:30 | or make it possible to secure fields from being overwritten during import | |
| 21:31 | wizzyrea | well I think the question of "pass or don't pass this patch" |
| 21:31 | has been answered | |
| 21:31 | hmm. | |
| 21:31 | except for the thing about the numbering. | |
| 21:32 | cait | but this thing about the numbering happens because it's hiding biblios... right? |
| 21:32 | * wizzyrea | doesn't fully understand what the deal is with the numbering |
| 21:34 | wizzyrea | actually, I can't make it show the right numbering ever? |
| 21:35 | * wizzyrea | tries again |
| 21:37 | cait | if you undo the hiding thing, does it cound normally= |
| 21:37 | ? | |
| 21:37 | and sleep time | |
| 21:37 | wizzyrea | no |
| 21:37 | cait | good night #koha |
| 21:37 | weird! | |
| 21:37 | wizzyrea | gnite |
| 21:37 | yea | |
| 21:37 | weird. | |
| 21:37 | * wizzyrea | will try again tomorrow. |
| 21:37 | wizzyrea | on that one. |
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| 21:52 | aarkerio | Hi! how can I add my company to: http://koha-community.org/support/paid-support/ |
| 21:52 | wizzyrea | getting listed is at http://koha-community.org/supp[…]ow-to-get-listed/ |
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| 22:07 | aarkerio | thanks! |
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| 23:06 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5459] merging records loses holds from one <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5459> |
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