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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 00:00 | jcamins | Wait... |
| 00:00 | This conversation seems familiar. | |
| 00:00 | rangi | *nod* |
| 00:01 | jcamins | I mean, not the one with IndexData. I wasn't there for that part of it. |
| 00:01 | rangi | its annoyingly familiar but i cant remember specifics |
| 00:01 | jcamins | I mean, you and I discussed this. |
| 00:01 | rangi | yeah |
| 00:01 | Judit | pancakes??? |
| 00:01 | wahanui | pancakes are always good |
| 00:01 | jcamins | I remember the conclusion was "good grief, no wonder relevancy doesn't work!!!" |
| 00:02 | rangi | yeah and then at the hackfest we discovered that yes, yet again, we are doing dumb things |
| 00:02 | but i cant remember the specific fix | |
| 00:03 | i hope sekjal can | |
| 00:03 | jcamins | Me too. |
| 00:03 | rangi | i took notes, but cant find them ;( |
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| 00:06 | bg | rangi jcamins aren't you talking about the attributes? |
| 00:07 | rangi | maybe |
| 00:07 | what i want is a way to weight title and author higher than the rest | |
| 00:07 | im sure can do so by changing a file ccl.properties maybe | |
| 00:08 | jcamins | I feel like that should be in ccl.properties, but I feel like I actually *found* where we were doing it at some point, and I'm just not seeing it in ccl.properties. |
| 00:08 | Oh, wait. | |
| 00:08 | I remember. | |
| 00:08 | rangi | # Rank Weights |
| 00:08 | bg | isn't there a cql file? |
| 00:09 | jcamins | bg: yes, but the Zebra side of the configuration is in ccl.properties, because that's what Search.pm uses. |
| 00:09 | bg | right there is a cql file for koha - also... |
| 00:09 | jcamins | rangi: search for "Keyword, or, no index specified" in Search.pm (somewhere around line 768). |
| 00:09 | Cry. | |
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| 00:09 | jcamins | bg: yes. |
| 00:10 | rangi | ta |
| 00:10 | bg: yes but we dont use it | |
| 00:10 | because C4::Search is crap | |
| 00:11 | jcamins | You know, making that part user-configurable wouldn't even be that hard. |
| 00:12 | I mean, that's all in Perl. | |
| 00:13 | rangi | yeah |
| 00:13 | oh god | |
| 00:13 | * rangi | weeps |
| 00:14 | rangi | right, well i have to change this for a client, ill see what i can do to make it configurable |
| 00:15 | jcamins | Horrifying, isn't it? |
| 00:15 | rangi | yeah |
| 00:18 | jcamins | Ooh look, I correctly guessed who had written it. |
| 00:32 | libsysguy1 | how would I add "<link rel="stylesheet" href="mobile.css" type="text/css" media="handheld" />" without editing koha base code? |
| 00:32 | can i do it in an opac pref? | |
| 00:32 | rangi | yeah |
| 00:32 | opac css | |
| 00:32 | i forget the exact name | |
| 00:32 | libsysguy1 | so the opacusercss |
| 00:33 | rangi | thats a text area one eh? |
| 00:33 | libsysguy1 | interesting |
| 00:33 | wahanui | well, interesting is sometimes bad |
| 00:33 | libsysguy1 | yeah it is |
| 00:33 | eythian | won't that put it inside a style block? |
| 00:33 | rangi | slap it in there and see if it shows up ;) |
| 00:33 | you can be tricky | |
| 00:33 | </style> | |
| 00:33 | blah | |
| 00:33 | <style> | |
| 00:33 | libsysguy1 | haha clever |
| 00:35 | pastebot | "mtj" at 122.59.254.107 pasted "oops" (91 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/1909 |
| 00:36 | rangi | ? |
| 00:36 | eythian | that's not so hot |
| 00:37 | I mean, to start with, who uses an Apple machine? | |
| 00:37 | Judit | i am |
| 00:37 | 10.6 | |
| 00:37 | jcamins | 1909? Shouldn't we be in the low hundreds? |
| 00:38 | rangi | its been up a while |
| 00:38 | must be due for a flush soon | |
| 00:39 | jcamins | Yeah, spammers have found it. |
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| 00:42 | rangi | flushed |
| 00:44 | jcamins | Thanks. |
| 01:27 | mtj | ps: sorry about that paste before, was sposed to be a private one :/ |
| 02:17 | eythian | http://i.imgur.com/Kxigd.jpg <-- here you go mtj, this'll make you feel better |
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| 02:30 | BrookeenTauride | 0/ |
| 02:32 | jcamins | eythian: how do you access the staff client with the packages? |
| 02:32 | eythian | jcamins: you go to the URL the corresponds to whatever you set up |
| 02:32 | typically something like <library>-admin | |
| 02:32 | but it's configurable | |
| 02:33 | jcamins | Shouldn't it have asked me about how I wanted to configure it? |
| 02:33 | rangi | you had to set it up in the config file |
| 02:33 | jcamins | Ah. |
| 02:34 | I think your packages work better than mine, because I did this in the past with your packages, and they Just Worked. | |
| 02:34 | eythian | I don't know what it does if you don't set it up, probably makes it the same name for each one, which will upset apache |
| 02:34 | have a look in the apache config to see what it did | |
| 02:34 | rangi | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ueeze#Quick_Start <-- that bit there |
| 02:35 | jcamins | rangi: thanks. |
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| 02:36 | BrookeenTauride | So I have a beef with my unpaid for Catalyst support. |
| 02:36 | There doesn't appear to be a good synching over here with Beervana. | |
| 02:36 | eythian | what are you talking about? |
| 02:36 | I have my ticket | |
| 02:36 | if you didn't get in on time, that's hardly our fault | |
| 02:37 | in fact, I have a 9:30am AGM at a pub, followed by beervana | |
| 02:37 | BrookeenTauride | totally your fault I don't have beer :P |
| 02:38 | but for serious, I hope it is teh awesome Robin :) | |
| 02:38 | eythian | I expect that it will be :) |
| 02:42 | jcamins | Okay, apparently making my own packages doesn't work. |
| 02:42 | BrookeenTauride | what's the failure point? |
| 02:46 | jcamins | The default Apache page insists on coming up. |
| 02:47 | eythian | jcamins: I'll trade you: explain how analytics (with 000-7 set to 's') differs from volumes (with 000-19 set to 'a') from sets (with 000-19 set to 'c') |
| 02:48 | and how I want to be setting up these things, which are, e.g. a song book containing multiple songs, or a file containing multiple names (of text clipopings) | |
| 02:48 | s/pop/pp/ | |
| 02:49 | in return, I'll tell you that you don't have NameVirtualHost enable quite right, and start by doing a2disable 000-default | |
| 02:49 | jcamins | eythian: 000-7 is for a serial publication with more than one items. |
| 02:49 | s/items/articles in it/ | |
| 02:50 | A volume (000/07=m 000/19=a) is a book consisting of more than one article. | |
| 02:51 | 000/07=m 000/19=b/c is a part of another item. | |
| 02:51 | Clear? | |
| 02:52 | eythian | all except that last part. |
| 02:52 | jcamins | An analytic entry would have 000/07=a or 000/07=b |
| 02:52 | eythian | oh wait |
| 02:52 | I see | |
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| 02:53 | jcamins | Figured out the problem. |
| 02:53 | Forgot to run a2ensite. | |
| 02:53 | eythian | so I'd use 000/07=m 000/19=a for the parent, and 000/07=m 000/19=b/c for the parts |
| 02:53 | a2ensite runs automatically, unless you hadn't enabled rewrite the first time and it spat the dummy cos of that | |
| 02:54 | what actually is/are "analytics" in this context anyway? | |
| 02:54 | jcamins | eythian: ah, that's probably what happened. |
| 02:55 | Analytics are records for things that make up a part of something else. | |
| 02:55 | Usually articles. | |
| 02:55 | BrookeenTauride | it's describing the big thing and the little thing simultaneously |
| 02:55 | so if you're doing a World Book | |
| 02:55 | your doing the set of encyclopaedia | |
| 02:55 | AND the volume you're looking at, say S | |
| 02:56 | eythian | I see. so how does that differ from sets? |
| 02:56 | BrookeenTauride | the little part lets you add in more detail than you could get away with on the big one |
| 02:56 | eythian | but sets are little parts, too |
| 02:56 | BrookeenTauride | all great danes are dogs, but all dogs are not great danes |
| 02:56 | eythian | from what I can tell in the code |
| 02:57 | because a set links to the Control number of a parent record | |
| 02:58 | BrookeenTauride | you might go into exhaustive detail about table of contents stuff, for instance that would apply to a member of the set where you couldn't cataloguing the series since it's not a common thinger. |
| 02:59 | eythian | hmm OK |
| 02:59 | I think I see enough to make this work | |
| 02:59 | jcamins | What are you trying to do? |
| 03:00 | eythian | jcamins: Make it so if you look for a song, it links to the song book. |
| 03:00 | or when you search for a local person, it shows you the file with clippings about them | |
| 03:01 | BrookeenTauride | neat |
| 03:03 | jcamins | Oops. I needed to run the upgrade to 3.4 script. |
| 03:03 | eythian: ah. That's gonna be a teeny bit complicated. | |
| 03:04 | eythian | well, they have the records in place, and I've linked them up using 773$w and 001 |
| 03:04 | I just need to know how to tell Koha to show them properly | |
| 03:04 | jcamins | Oh, in that case, it should work properly. |
| 03:06 | What's happening with it? | |
| 03:07 | eythian | two things: one is a koha issue, rcn isn't being indexed, the other is it's using words that don't fit. |
| 03:08 | jcamins | Ah. |
| 03:09 | rcn should be indexed. | |
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| 03:09 | jcamins | kf submitted a patch for that. |
| 03:10 | eythian | $ grep rcn etc/zebradb/marc_defs/marc21/biblios/record.abs | wc -l |
| 03:10 | 0 | |
| 03:10 | not in the file, though I should see when the patch is for | |
| 03:10 | I'm on about 3.4.2 or so here | |
| 03:11 | jcamins | It should be Control-number. |
| 03:11 | eythian | no |
| 03:11 | Record-control-number | |
| 03:11 | wahanui | Record-control-number is an index in koha, not used in the 29.50 search options |
| 03:11 | jcamins | (not rcn- that's supplied by ccl.properties) |
| 03:11 | eythian | oh? |
| 03:11 | hmm | |
| 03:13 | kmkale | Namaskar #koha |
| 03:13 | jcamins | eythian: how do I make Zebra start automatically? |
| 03:13 | eythian | it just does |
| 03:13 | BrookeenTauride | namaste |
| 03:13 | jcamins | eythian: oh, excellent. :) |
| 03:13 | eythian | the /etc/init.d/koha-common takes care of it |
| 03:13 | BrookeenTauride | automagically++ |
| 03:13 | eythian | if you do a restart of that, it'll show you |
| 03:14 | so I'm looking at a record with: | |
| 03:14 | 773 ## - HOST ITEM ENTRY | |
| 03:14 | w Record control number 140680.7129 | |
| 03:15 | but getting: No results match your search for 'rcn:140680.7129'. | |
| 03:15 | jcamins | Cool! It does work. |
| 03:15 | eythian | anyone have ideas? |
| 03:15 | ohh | |
| 03:15 | I bet I know | |
| 03:16 | jcamins | eythian: unfortunately I don't have any test data for it. |
| 03:16 | eythian | ah, I had an old ccl.properties |
| 03:16 | in my dev system | |
| 03:16 | jcamins | That explains it. |
| 03:16 | eythian | very annoyingly, this would have just worked fine on the client's staging system |
| 03:17 | because it uses more current files | |
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| 03:24 | eythian | What is a "Festschrift"? |
| 03:25 | Looks like "party writing" | |
| 03:25 | BrookeenTauride | it's a cheerleading thing |
| 03:25 | like a work of suckuppery | |
| 03:25 | like I'd publish a festschrift on jransom | |
| 03:25 | jcamins | BrookeenTauride: hehehe. |
| 03:26 | BrookeenTauride | :) |
| 03:26 | <--- taking the piss out of academic rhetoric since 1977. | |
| 03:26 | jcamins | eythian: it's something published in honor of a person's birthday or retirement or the like. |
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| 04:06 | mtj | [% IF ( singleBranchMode ) = 'foo' %] |
| 04:07 | is that eval ok in T::T? | |
| 04:07 | anyone? | |
| 04:08 | rangi | thats not an eval |
| 04:09 | well it is, but not the way you are probably thinking :) | |
| 04:09 | mtj | [% IF ( singleBranchMode ) == 'foo' %] |
| 04:09 | yeah, ok :) | |
| 04:09 | rangi | thats more like it, prolly eq in that case too |
| 04:09 | mtj | sorry, friday-brain |
| 04:09 | [% IF ( singleBranchMode eq 'foo') %] | |
| 04:10 | rangi | yep, and the brackets arent nessecary |
| 04:10 | ahh sorry it is == | |
| 04:10 | http://template-toolkit.org/do[…]UNLESS_ELSIF_ELSE | |
| 04:11 | mtj | aah, me no see the 'Directives' page |
| 04:11 | thanks again :) | |
| 04:11 | mtj? | |
| 04:11 | wahanui | DeM KraZy NutZ!! |
| 04:12 | mtj | right on! |
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| 06:19 | magnuse | kia ora and happy gbsd#3, #koha! |
| 06:29 | alex_a | bonjour magnuse and all ! |
| 06:30 | magnuse | bonjour alex_a - how's life in rue breteuil? |
| 06:38 | alex_a | magnuse: it's hot in rue de breteuil |
| 06:38 | magnuse | ah |
| 06:38 | alex_a | :) |
| 06:38 | magnuse | @wunder mariseille |
| 06:38 | huginn | magnuse: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 06:38 | magnuse | @wunder marseille |
| 06:38 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 24.0°C (8:30 AM CEST on August 05, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady). |
| 06:38 | magnuse | oooh |
| 06:38 | @wunder boo | |
| 06:38 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 17.0°C (8:20 AM CEST on August 05, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady). |
| 06:38 | magnuse | that's not bad, actually |
| 06:39 | @wunder wellington, nz | |
| 06:39 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 9.0°C (6:00 PM NZST on August 05, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady). |
| 06:39 | alex_a | ouch |
| 06:39 | magnuse | well, it's winter... |
| 06:39 | alex_a | yes |
| 06:40 | each turn | |
| 06:40 | magnuse | hehe |
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| 06:49 | julian_ | hello |
| 06:49 | wahanui | salut, julian_ |
| 06:49 | magnuse | bonjour julian_ |
| 06:50 | julian_ | hi wahanui, magnuse |
| 06:50 | how are you today? | |
| 06:50 | magnuse | fine - the sun is shining and it's friday and it's gbsd ;-) |
| 06:50 | julian_ | :-) |
| 06:53 | magnuse | and how are you julian_? |
| 07:00 | julian_ | magnuse, i'm fine too, but it's too hot in Marseille... |
| 07:01 | magnuse | ouch! glad the hackfest was so early in the year... |
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| 07:03 | magnuse | kia ora paul_p |
| 07:03 | paul_p | hi magnuse & others |
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| 07:19 | sophie_m | hello |
| 07:31 | magnuse | bonjour sophie_m |
| 07:32 | paul_p | quitting home, going to office now. |
| 07:32 | sophie_m | hello magnuse |
| 07:32 | paul_p | magnuse, only a few BibLibre contributions to be expected for this GBSD: summer holiday... |
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| 07:45 | clrh | hello koha |
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| 07:46 | magnuse | bonjour clrh |
| 07:49 | clrh | bonjour magnuse |
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| 07:53 | paul_p | back |
| 08:01 | clrh | does someone work with xmleditor for koha doc? |
| 08:01 | I have an encoding problem | |
| 08:01 | but my editor is in utf-8 | |
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| 08:02 | kf | hi # |
| 08:02 | magnuse | kia ora kf |
| 08:02 | kf | hi #koha and happy gbsd! |
| 08:02 | clrh | ‘ is translated into ‘ |
| 08:02 | magnuse | clrh: sounds like a question for nengard... |
| 08:03 | clrh | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]g_the_Koha_Manual I read it |
| 08:03 | magnuse: yep | |
| 08:04 | magnuse | i have only ever used a plain old text editor to make small patches for the docs |
| 08:13 | clrh | thx magnuse |
| 08:18 | magnuse | paul_p: seen bug 6537 and http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]pref_handling_RFC ? |
| 08:18 | wahanui | I haven't seen 'bug', magnuse |
| 08:18 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6537 enhancement, P5, ---, magnus, ASSIGNED , Simplified sysprefs for the web installer |
| 08:19 | magnuse | it's similar to what you propose |
| 08:19 | paul_p | magnuse, nope, I missed that ! |
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| 08:20 | kf | magnuse++ :) |
| 08:21 | paul_p | magnuse++ |
| 08:21 | VERY GOOD idea/suggestion ! | |
| 08:21 | I think i'll adopt this method & bug entry & do the job ! | |
| 08:23 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6390] Basket only visible for librarian who created it <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6390> |
| 08:23 | magnuse | ...or i could have another go at finnishing what i started... ;-) |
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| 09:04 | alex_a | fredericd: ping |
| 09:06 | @seen fredericd | |
| 09:06 | huginn | alex_a: fredericd was last seen in #koha 2 weeks, 1 day, 2 hours, 56 minutes, and 12 seconds ago: <fredericd> hello druthb |
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| 09:08 | paul_p | oups... laptop frozen... if someone wrote something to me since 10:24, i missed it |
| 09:12 | kf | perhaps you need a new laptop ;) |
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| 10:03 | kf | gbsd++ |
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| 10:08 | kf | hi nengard |
| 10:08 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5981] OPAC: Add limits to search history <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5981> |
| 10:08 | nengard | hiya |
| 10:20 | paul_p | 'morning nengard |
| 10:20 | nengard | hiya |
| 10:22 | magnuse | kia ora nengard |
| 10:22 | ready to squash some bugs? | |
| 10:24 | nengard | wasn't that yesterday? |
| 10:24 | magnuse | nope, today! |
| 10:24 | nengard | rangi said it was yesterday :) |
| 10:25 | I was signing off on patches when I should have been sleeping :) hehe | |
| 10:25 | but yes, I can squash bugs | |
| 10:25 | magnuse | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]bug_squashing_day |
| 10:26 | nengard | :) I believe you |
| 10:26 | I'm very jeet lagged so I have no clue what day or time it is | |
| 10:26 | magnuse | it started in kiribati while it was still yesterday for us, if you see what i mean... ;-) |
| 10:26 | hehe | |
| 10:26 | * kf | hands nengard coffee |
| 10:32 | nengard | thanks kf, not a coffee drinker - plan on taking a nap to get back on schedule |
| 10:33 | was in Seattle and took the red eye home and then this morning woke at 3am to get Bri to the airport | |
| 10:33 | my body is very confused | |
| 10:33 | magnuse | understandable! |
| 10:40 | kf | nengard: was travelling too yesterday - 6 hours on trains |
| 10:40 | not as bad as switching timezones, but glad weekend is near | |
| 10:40 | nengard | :) |
| 10:40 | kf | hope the nap helps :) |
| 10:41 | paul_p | nengard, it's always friday. It's just that friday starts sooner for him than for you ;-) |
| 10:41 | (it's already saturday for kiwis now !) | |
| 10:41 | kf | lucky kiwis |
| 10:42 | paul_p | kf, well, it's also winter for them now... |
| 10:42 | not so lucky ;-) | |
| 10:42 | kf | hm good point |
| 10:43 | paul_p | ok, time for lunch for us. (and end of our half day dedicated to community. We made quite a lot of work with the few ppl not on holiday) |
| 10:44 | kf | biblibre++ |
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| 11:10 | druthb | o/ |
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| 11:12 | BrookeenTauride | kia ora! |
| 11:14 | @later tell sekjal we need to create bug rugby. :D | |
| 11:14 | huginn | BrookeenTauride: The operation succeeded. |
| 11:14 | druthb | g'morning, BrookeenTauride. :) |
| 11:15 | BrookeenTauride | how's it? |
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| 11:17 | BrookeenTauride | wahanui friday? |
| 11:17 | wahanui | friday is probably It's Friday, Friday Gotta get down on Friday |
| 11:18 | druthb | lol |
| 11:18 | wahanui: druthb? | |
| 11:18 | wahanui | no idea, druthb |
| 11:18 | druthb | good |
| 11:29 | BrookeenTauride | off oh la times xword you are so punny |
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| 11:58 | Agent_Dani | Heya druthb |
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| 12:39 | drojf | hello #koha |
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| 13:06 | paul_p | hello sekjal / ian |
| 13:06 | sekjal, community day for you too it seems ;-) | |
| 13:07 | sekjal | paul_p: just trying to keep caught up |
| 13:07 | paul_p | ;-) |
| 13:08 | sekjal, will you come to KohaCon11 ? | |
| 13:08 | sekjal | paul_p: that's the plan; still need to get some of the paperwork (Visa, specifically) taken care of |
| 13:09 | paul_p | visa ? you need one ? ... checking ... yikes ! frenchies also need a visa ! |
| 13:09 | thanks for noticing ! | |
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| 13:10 | druthb | hi, oak! |
| 13:10 | Oak | hi druthb :) |
| 13:10 | hello #koha | |
| 13:11 | paul_p | hello Oak & druthb & all american ppl waking up |
| 13:11 | Oak | bonjour paul_p :) |
| 13:13 | Agent_Dani | Waking? I've been up for four hours now. |
| 13:14 | drojf | i have a question regarding import of marc21 records. for koha 3.2 i would put the holdings data in 952 and import it, but i understand that in 3.4, 9xx-fields are not used anymore. where would i put the holdings data in my records to be imported in 3.4? |
| 13:14 | paul_p | west coast ppl are just waking up right ? |
| 13:14 | drojf, they are not STORED INTERNALLY, but they're still here if you export/need to import | |
| 13:15 | drojf | ah, ok. thanks paul_p |
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| 13:38 | magnus_afk | bbl |
| 13:42 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5725] Batch modifications for Biblios <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5725> |
| 13:43 | Agent_Dani | paul_p: Naw, a lot of east coast ones probably are, too. I'm an early riser for a few current-job-related reasons. |
| 13:43 | * wizzyrea | is a CDT riser |
| 13:43 | paul_p | hi wizzyrea |
| 13:43 | wizzyrea | good morning, paul_p |
| 13:43 | Agent_Dani | Mornin' wizzyrea |
| 13:44 | My alarm goes off at 05:30 EDT. | |
| 13:44 | wizzyrea | due to an error in my alarm settings, that's about when mine went off too >.< |
| 13:44 | Agent_Dani | Ouch... |
| 13:45 | wizzyrea | so. GBSD |
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| 14:16 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 4966] no way to finish receiving <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4966> |
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| 14:24 | jcamins_away | wizzyrea: am I the only one who thinks "Google Blue Screen of Death" when I see that abbreviation? |
| 14:25 | * gmcharlt | predicts that Google will do that as an April 1st gag one day |
| 14:27 | wizzyrea | HEE |
| 14:28 | you guys crack me up | |
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| 15:11 | wizzyrea | that is a really good question... I know that statistics are kept when a patron is deleted, but what about their reading history? |
| 15:17 | SJeffery | Is there any provision for detecting/preventing duplicate records by their OCLC number when importing via Z39? |
| 15:18 | jcamins_away | SJeffery: it would be possible to set that up. |
| 15:19 | SJeffery: I don't believe the patch adding an index on 035 has been submitted to Koha yet, so it will require a server-side change. | |
| 15:20 | SJeffery | Heh, I am always glad to see when it is NOT some variable in the configuration that I have just been missing |
| 15:21 | jcamins_away | Does anyone know of any reason *not* to upgrade from 3.05.00.004 to latest Master? |
| 15:22 | Wait... never mind. | |
| 15:22 | * wizzyrea | doesn't |
| 15:23 | jcamins_away | Excellent. |
| 15:23 | wizzyrea | i think we're running 008 in production |
| 15:24 | which is a couple behind | |
| 15:25 | jcamins_away | Looks like Master is 008. |
| 15:25 | wizzyrea | database revisions :) |
| 15:26 | oh sorry, we're 006, hence "a couple behind" | |
| 15:26 | so I was half right :P | |
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| 15:42 | wizzyrea | GBSD is Global Bug Squashing Day |
| 15:42 | GBSD? | |
| 15:42 | wahanui | i think GBSD is Global Bug Squashing Day |
| 15:44 | Agent_Dani | :) |
| 15:50 | paul_p | 006 is at least 2 days old... |
| 15:51 | you're really late ;-) | |
| 15:51 | * paul_p | filling RFCs of pending features from BibLibre. believe it or no = 140 lines !!! |
| 15:51 | paul_p | won't have finished today... |
| 15:51 | still 110 to do... | |
| 15:54 | wizzyrea | yikes! |
| 15:55 | paul_p | some are tiny (add a link here), some are huge (like solr) |
| 15:56 | wizzyrea, entering them on a ggdocs for now. Do you want access to it when it's done ? | |
| 15:56 | wizzyrea | sure :() |
| 15:56 | :) | |
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| 16:06 | cait | new features? |
| 16:06 | * cait | perks up ;) |
| 16:06 | * druthb | perks up, seeing cait and libsysguy. |
| 16:07 | cait | :) |
| 16:07 | wizzyrea | and oleonard! |
| 16:07 | wahanui | oleonard is the master UI designer of koha or an awesome bug wrangler |
| 16:07 | oleonard | Hi |
| 16:07 | wizzyrea | heya ruth :) |
| 16:07 | cait | hi all |
| 16:09 | druthb | hi oleonard and wizzyrea! |
| 16:11 | libsysguy | HI druthb |
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| 16:23 | jcamins_away | Have there been any additions to the package requirements recently? |
| 16:23 | bg | @wunder 93109 |
| 16:23 | huginn | bg: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 19.0°C (9:23 AM PDT on August 05, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.91 in 1012.8 hPa (Rising). |
| 16:24 | bg | jcamins_away: not that I've seen - I know larryb have some fail the other day |
| 16:24 | jcamins_away | Hm. Thanks. |
| 16:36 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6671] Change name of variable used when renewing patron expiration <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6671> |
| 16:37 | oleonard | Not sure why the changes in that bug were made, but I dutifully have pulled them out into their own patch from 5436 |
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| 16:50 | paul_p | time for week end for me ! |
| 16:51 | bye guys (& girls) | |
| 16:52 | cait | bye paul_p |
| 17:00 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6673] Create Batch Label from Staged MARC Records fails after upgrade to 3.4.x <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6673> |
| 17:02 | jcamins_away | Does anyone have a record with an 035 from OCLC I could borrow for testing? |
| 17:03 | Oh, here's one. Never mind. | |
| 17:03 | oleonard | Is the first patch on Bug 5749 obsoleted by the second? |
| 17:03 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5749 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, stephane.delaune, NEW , The display of borrower adresses composed of streetnumber, streettype and address is broken |
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| 17:49 | cait | hey - it's friday! |
| 17:50 | why are we not talking about cookies? | |
| 17:50 | libsysguy | TGIF |
| 17:50 | oleonard | Cookies are delicious delicacies. |
| 17:51 | * libsysguy | wishes i had cookies |
| 17:56 | rhcl_away | libsysguy: you going to the LITA conference by any chance? http://ala.org/ala/mgrps/divs/[…]um/2011/index.cfm |
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| 18:00 | libsysguy | that'd be awesome but the great state of texas cut all of our travel budget |
| 18:00 | rhcl_away | ic |
| 18:00 | libsysguy | :'( |
| 18:01 | they never let me go anywhere...they just lock me in the server closet | |
| 18:01 | and its cold in here | |
| 18:01 | rhcl_away | The Mo State Lib just got permission to use some unused admin funds for grants for us to attend. |
| 18:01 | libsysguy | hmmm |
| 18:01 | rhcl_away | Well, you need a new working location. |
| 18:02 | libsysguy | i might check into it...i think it'd be awesome to go...may i ask why you asked? |
| 18:02 | wizzyrea | i suspect he wanted to know if his pals were going to be there |
| 18:02 | rhcl_away | I'm being herded into going, and I didn't know if any other Koha people might be there. |
| 18:03 | rhcl | There are some mildly interesting ILS-related sessions. |
| 18:03 | libsysguy | hmm |
| 18:04 | Margo said I could go if I got to do a presentation | |
| 18:04 | lol | |
| 18:05 | rhcl | well, work up something for next year, and we'll hope it's in some more exotic location like....Dayton...Omaha... |
| 18:06 | wizzyrea | I have a question of best practice |
| 18:06 | libsysguy | rhcl: lol |
| 18:06 | wizzyrea | in git, what is the best way to make sure your branches are up to date |
| 18:06 | put another way | |
| 18:07 | what's the best or right way to update them | |
| 18:07 | libsysguy | all at the same time? |
| 18:07 | wizzyrea | not necessarily |
| 18:08 | oleonard | wizzyrea: Your testing or in-progress branches? |
| 18:08 | wizzyrea | testing |
| 18:08 | (in progress also, if you feel compelled to share) | |
| 18:08 | oleonard | Either way I fetch and then git rebase origin |
| 18:08 | And no one has yet told me that's wrong :) | |
| 18:09 | wizzyrea | :) |
| 18:09 | so you do both. | |
| 18:09 | which seems right | |
| 18:09 | oleonard | both fetch and rebase? |
| 18:09 | wizzyrea | I usually do git pull, but i'm not 100% certain of the reason why |
| 18:09 | which is why I asked | |
| 18:09 | libsysguy | im not sure of the difference betweel pull and fetch either |
| 18:09 | oleonard | I've always been confused about what git pull does |
| 18:09 | * wizzyrea | too |
| 18:10 | jcamins_away | Wow, step away ten minutes, and there's too much scrollback! |
| 18:10 | git pull is really simple. | |
| 18:10 | What it does is it runs git fetch, _then_ it applies all the new patches from upstream to your branch. | |
| 18:11 | wizzyrea | hmm |
| 18:11 | I don't think my git pull is working correctly | |
| 18:11 | jcamins_away | So you end up with a git log that looks like this: |
| 18:11 | [all the patches up until you created your branch]...[your patches]...[everything that was done upstream while you were working] | |
| 18:12 | oleonard | Whereas if you fetch+rebase your patches appear after .[everything that was done upstream while you were working] ? |
| 18:12 | jcamins_away | git pull is perfect for if you're maintaining a separate branch longterm. |
| 18:12 | Exactly. | |
| 18:12 | wizzyrea | hmm |
| 18:13 | sekjal | wizzyrea: git pull = git fetch + git merge |
| 18:13 | wizzyrea | oho |
| 18:13 | thoughts on which strategy is better? | |
| 18:13 | sekjal | there is an option to have it do rebase, instead |
| 18:13 | oleonard | So is there an advantage either way for getting a dev branch up to date? |
| 18:13 | wizzyrea | ^^ and that |
| 18:14 | sekjal | avoid rebasing a public repo; it'll screw up anyone who's pulled from you |
| 18:14 | but, for private repos, rebase is nice because it puts your changes at the top of the git log | |
| 18:15 | jcamins_away | Grr. |
| 18:15 | libsysguy | hey rhcl today is the last day for proposals |
| 18:15 | there is hope if i type fast | |
| 18:15 | is anybody else going? | |
| 18:15 | wizzyrea | i'm not |
| 18:15 | jcamins_away | The reason I couldn't find this record is that I hadn't imported it. |
| 18:15 | wizzyrea | oops. |
| 18:16 | so i think i'm hearing that fetch, rebase is the way to go for a non-public repo | |
| 18:16 | jcamins_away | That's my recommendation. |
| 18:17 | I'll give you a concrete example of how I use the two options. | |
| 18:17 | wizzyrea | <3 thanks |
| 18:17 | jcamins_away | In fact, I'll give you a concrete example of what I'm doing _right now_. |
| 18:17 | wizzyrea | hehe |
| 18:18 | jcamins_away | I am currently working on fixing a bug. |
| 18:18 | cait | yay :) |
| 18:19 | jcamins_away | I have a branch for the bug which I created several weeks ago (3.05.000.004). |
| 18:19 | I rebased my changes onto latest Master with git fetch && git rebase kc/master | |
| 18:19 | (I did that last bit today) | |
| 18:20 | I am also building packages, which have a number of changes from Master that could never make it into Koha proper (for good reason). | |
| 18:20 | wahanui | okay, jcamins_away. |
| 18:20 | jcamins_away | jcamins? |
| 18:20 | wahanui | jcamins is supposed to be an outstanding cook. or well-traveled and brilliant. or trying to think of a solution, but short of a set of three sysprefs (ShelfBrowserUsesLocation, ShelfBrowserUsesCcode, and ShelfBrowserUsesHomeBranch), I don't really have any ideas. or awesome fixing broken email notifications |
| 18:20 | jcamins_away | I? |
| 18:20 | wahanui | i think jcamins_away is currently working on fixing a bug. or building packages, which have a number of changes from Master that could never make it into Koha proper (for good reason). |
| 18:20 | jcamins_away | Hehe. |
| 18:20 | Anyway, so I have my own branch for building packages from. | |
| 18:20 | wizzyrea | forget I |
| 18:20 | wahanui | wizzyrea: I forgot i |
| 18:20 | wizzyrea | I is <reply> |
| 18:21 | i? | |
| 18:21 | jcamins_away | Every time I build a package, I modify the change log. |
| 18:22 | I commit those changes and add a tag so that I know where I was when I built a package. | |
| 18:22 | Every time I want to build a package, I do a git pull, so that I don't lose my place, and I can also get my branch as close as possible to current Master. | |
| 18:22 | Does that clarify things at all? | |
| 18:23 | wizzyrea | yes, I think so |
| 18:23 | jcamins_away | Yay! |
| 18:28 | wizzyrea | nengard, about? |
| 18:28 | nengard | physically |
| 18:28 | mentally i make no promises | |
| 18:28 | wizzyrea | ohsnap |
| 18:28 | hehe | |
| 18:31 | jcamins_away | Apparently the documentation for making packages is no longer accurate. |
| 18:32 | * jcamins_away | crosses "try out lastest Master" off his to-do list. |
| 18:37 | jcamins_away | Oh, never mind. Got it. |
| 18:38 | Oh, I have a meeting in 50 minutes. | |
| 18:57 | wizzyrea | hey speaking of bug squashing |
| 18:58 | bug 6488 | |
| 18:58 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6488 normal, P5, ---, paul.poulain, NEW , opachiddenitems not working in master |
| 18:58 | oleonard | You're wrong wizzyrea, no one is speaking of bug squashing |
| 18:59 | wizzyrea | pf, it's implied as today is bug squashing day |
| 18:59 | oleonard | :) |
| 18:59 | wizzyrea | neener |
| 18:59 | i honestly hope that the next time rangi runs stats | |
| 18:59 | that "neener" is my quote. | |
| 19:05 | cait | ? |
| 19:05 | wizzyrea | so 6488 |
| 19:06 | am I to understand that the items are not hidden now/ | |
| 19:06 | cait | Rain! |
| 19:18 | * oleonard | almost got Bug 6674 squashed, the last remnant of Bug 5436 to be split out. |
| 19:18 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6674 enhancement, P5, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Collapse display of patron address by default |
| 19:18 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5436 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, guillaume.hatt, ASSIGNED , Extended patron attributes display improvements | |
| 19:24 | nengard | hello all, i need me some reports help. this report is one of the first i wrote - and it's wrong :) http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Library#Patrons_w.2F_Fines |
| 19:24 | it's wrong because there are negative in the amountoutstanding column | |
| 19:24 | anyone have an idea on how i can do it so that it's right? | |
| 19:27 | cait | you want a report that lists all patrons with fines? |
| 19:27 | I think I have one for that | |
| 19:28 | nengard | yes please |
| 19:28 | outstanding fines | |
| 19:28 | pastebot | Someone at 78.51.74.52 pasted "borrowers with fines" (13 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/1 |
| 19:29 | cait | some of my libraries are using it |
| 19:30 | nengard | cait thank you!! |
| 19:30 | testing now | |
| 19:31 | cait | cool, let me know if it works :) |
| 19:32 | nengard | cait |
| 19:32 | ERROR 1064 (42000): You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near 'SELECT (SELECT CONCAT('<a href=\"/cgi-bin/koha/circ/circulation.pl?borrowernumbe' at line 4 | |
| 19:32 | cait | I am checking it |
| 19:33 | probably a bad paste from the iwki | |
| 19:33 | wiki | |
| 19:34 | give me a min | |
| 19:34 | nengard | no prob |
| 19:36 | cait | yes, there is a mistake in our internal wiki - trying to fix |
| 19:38 | pastebot | "cait" at 78.51.74.52 pasted "SELECT (SELECT CONCAT('<a href" (12 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/2 |
| 19:39 | cait | this should work |
| 19:40 | ah, small thing you might want to fix, both the name and the fine link to the fines page in the borrower account, the first should link to the details page | |
| 19:40 | nengard | cait that works!! |
| 19:40 | thank you | |
| 19:40 | I'll update the links and the language :) | |
| 19:40 | cait | no problem :) |
| 19:41 | nengard | what is Ausleihen |
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| 19:43 | cait | checkout |
| 19:43 | s | |
| 19:43 | nengard | thansnk |
| 19:43 | thanks | |
| 19:43 | cait | the number of current checkouts |
| 19:45 | nengard | i have erased my report and put yours in there (with a few edits by me) |
| 19:45 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Library#Patrons_w.2F_Fines | |
| 19:46 | cait | cool :) |
| 19:46 | my first report in the sql library! | |
| 19:47 | thx nengard | |
| 19:47 | nengard++ | |
| 19:47 | nengard | cait you had another in there actually |
| 19:47 | cait | I did? |
| 19:47 | magnuse | i thought there was a test to find sysprefs missing from sql files, but i can't find it... does that ring any bells for anyone? |
| 19:48 | nengard | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]rts_Library#Title.2FSubtitle_List |
| 19:48 | cait | yep |
| 19:48 | it's in xt I think | |
| 19:49 | magnuse | ah, that looks promising cait - i was only looking in t/ |
| 19:49 | cait | more xp for me -muhar |
| 19:49 | hehe | |
| 19:49 | nengard | i don't like the interface in that game |
| 19:50 | too hard to enter in everything i'm doing | |
| 19:50 | cait | hm? |
| 19:50 | to many clicks? | |
| 19:50 | to = too | |
| 19:52 | magnuse: http://stats.workbuffer.org/ir[…]11-08-04#i_729059 | |
| 19:54 | nengard | yes cait |
| 19:54 | cait | I like the pictures |
| 19:54 | the picture on the front page is great | |
| 19:54 | nengard | :) |
| 19:54 | cait | and I still want to gain a chocolate fish |
| 19:55 | but have to write patches for that | |
| 19:55 | nengard | heh |
| 19:55 | libsysguy | w00t i got our urls working |
| 19:55 | catalog.uttyler.edu | |
| 19:55 | staff.catalog.uttyler.edu | |
| 19:56 | magnuse | woohoo |
| 19:56 | libsysguy++ | |
| 19:57 | n00b question: what's the difference between t/ and xt/ for test? | |
| 19:57 | nengard | congrats libsysguy |
| 19:57 | libsysguy | :D thanks guys |
| 19:57 | cait | hm |
| 19:58 | magnuse: hm, not sure | |
| 19:58 | magnuse | extra tests? nah... |
| 19:58 | cait | extensible tests? |
| 19:59 | hm we already have database dependent tests | |
| 19:59 | so this could probably not be it | |
| 20:01 | magnuse | not so n00b after all then, perhaps... ;-) |
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| 20:39 | jcamins_away | Hi guys, didja miss me? |
| 20:43 | druthb | always, jcamins_away! |
| 20:43 | jcamins_away | I missed you, too. :) |
| 20:44 | cait | :) |
| 20:44 | have you brought cookies? | |
| 20:44 | jcamins_away | Alas, no. |
| 20:45 | * jcamins_away | is very, very proud of himself- he has been an exemplary husband, making sure everything high-calorie in the house is healthy. |
| 20:46 | wizzyrea | hehe |
| 20:46 | exemplary_husbands++ | |
| 20:46 | you have avocados then? | |
| 20:46 | ^.^ | |
| 20:46 | jcamins_away | Not at the moment. |
| 20:46 | We're out. | |
| 20:46 | However, I've been thinking about buying some this evening. | |
| 20:47 | rangi | still wanna know the diff between xt and t ? |
| 20:47 | xt are tests to be run when packaging/building releases etc | |
| 20:48 | t run then as well, but also when installing | |
| 20:50 | cait | :) |
| 20:50 | rangi++ | |
| 20:50 | will tell magnuse later :P | |
| 20:50 | it's weekend! | |
| 20:54 | jcamins_away: what is the healthy substitute for cookies? | |
| 20:55 | wizzyrea | oatmeal cookies with fruit :P |
| 20:55 | rangi | healthy smealthy |
| 20:55 | jcamins_away | cait: frozen yogurt. |
| 20:55 | cait | ok, I will take that then ;) |
| 20:55 | jcamins_away | With alcohol! |
| 20:56 | Actually, the alcohol helps the consistency quite a lot. | |
| 20:56 | :) | |
| 20:56 | wizzyrea | booze helps most things. |
| 20:57 | jcamins_away | Also chocolate. |
| 20:57 | wizzyrea | yea, dark chocolate is actually quite good for you |
| 20:57 | especially if it's not too sweet | |
| 20:57 | jcamins_away | (dark chocolate is _very_ healthy, thank you very much) |
| 20:58 | Yeah, no worries about it being too sweet. | |
| 20:59 | cait | ok |
| 20:59 | jcamins_away | 70% dark chocolate, yogurt, Bailey's Irish Cream, and a small amount of agave syrup (the natural alternative to splenda;). |
| 20:59 | cait | yum |
| 20:59 | can I have some frozen joghurt please? | |
| 20:59 | * jcamins_away | hands out yogurt ice pops. |
| 21:01 | wizzyrea | you can make tequila out of agave syrup ;) |
| 21:01 | druthb | mmmm |
| 21:01 | * druthb | takes a yogurt pop. |
| 21:01 | jcamins_away | wizzyrea: I think I'm allergic to tequila. |
| 21:01 | wizzyrea | but not agave syrup? |
| 21:02 | jcamins | Nope. |
| 21:02 | cait | thx jcamins :) |
| 21:02 | wizzyrea | or you're allergic in the way that drinking tequila makes you hang on to the floor for fear of falling off the world |
| 21:02 | because I'm allergic in that way. | |
| 21:02 | :P | |
| 21:02 | jcamins | No, allergic in the sense of "even a small taste of something with tequila makes me really sick." |
| 21:03 | * druthb | has the same allergy as wizzy |
| 21:03 | wizzyrea | but I still like it :) |
| 21:03 | cait | I am allergic to coffeine and alcohol in that way |
| 21:03 | wizzyrea | oo, that's bad. |
| 21:03 | * druthb | is laughing so hard it hurts a lil |
| 21:03 | cait | hm. actually it's more that my company and friends are allergic to me consuming coffeine or alcohol |
| 21:04 | jcamins | cait: better avoid kahlua, then. :P |
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| 21:04 | cait | I still get teased for the last time I had coffee at a role playing convention years ago :) |
| 21:05 | wizzyrea | what I appreciate most about you people, is that every single day you make me laugh. |
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| 21:06 | rangi | cait: is that when you threw a d20 at people and danced on tables? |
| 21:07 | jcamins | Someone small and fuzzy is nibbling my fingers affectionately. |
| 21:07 | bg | rangi? |
| 21:07 | wahanui | I LIKE ALMONDS! HAVE SOME NUTS! |
| 21:07 | jcamins | It makes typing really difficult. |
| 21:07 | druthb | bg? |
| 21:07 | wahanui | I LIKE BREAKFAST BURRITOS AND I LOVE BASEBALL |
| 21:07 | cait | rangi: not quite |
| 21:08 | druthb? | |
| 21:08 | wahanui | druthb is probably currently convincing the amish that they need to web 2.0 |
| 21:08 | cait | i was either asleep or talking - and that changed every few seconds |
| 21:08 | rangi | lol |
| 21:08 | * rangi | goes to search youtube for that |
| 21:08 | druthb | ! |
| 21:08 | cait | that was before youtube :P |
| 21:10 | druthb: do they have alibrary? | |
| 21:11 | wizzyrea | i read that up there as "someone small and fuzzy is nibbling my fingers" and it looks like bg suggested that it might be rangi. This makes me laugh. |
| 21:12 | cait | me too |
| 21:12 | now it's finally a real friday :) | |
| 21:12 | jcamins | Heh. Someone small and fuzzy has stopped nibbling my fingers. He's now considering whether he's a match for the Hungarian cow that was made into my shoes. |
| 21:13 | rangi | hey, i only nibbled his fingers once! |
| 21:13 | jcamins | I'm getting the sense he feels neglected. |
| 21:14 | wizzyrea | rangi? or small and fuzzy? |
| 21:15 | * wizzyrea | is getting confused. |
| 21:15 | jcamins | Small and fuzzy. |
| 21:15 | rangi: are you feeling neglected too? | |
| 21:16 | cait | lol |
| 21:16 | libsysguy | has anybody used the setDelimiter method in Text::CSV |
| 21:17 | cait | oh |
| 21:17 | a serious question from libsysguy | |
| 21:17 | libsysguy | sorry to butt in... |
| 21:17 | cait | jcamins: you should give him a pop |
| 21:18 | * jcamins | gives libsysguy a yogurt ice pop. |
| 21:18 | rangi | i havent libsysguy |
| 21:18 | jcamins | libsysguy: I did at some point, I think. Don't remember anything about it, though. |
| 21:18 | libsysguy | hmm...i get an error of can't locate metod setDelimiter |
| 21:21 | * rangi | consults cpan |
| 21:21 | libsysguy | rangi...that is where i found the method :'( |
| 21:22 | rangi | you have 05 eh? |
| 21:22 | libsysguy | v5.10.1 |
| 21:24 | rangi | ump |
| 21:24 | from cpan? | |
| 21:24 | cait | this smiley looks so tired |
| 21:24 | ah, sad not tired | |
| 21:24 | libsysguy | hmm maybe I should try updating from cpan |
| 21:24 | * cait | wonders how a tired smiley looks like |
| 21:25 | rangi | http://search.cpan.org/~makama[…]1/lib/Text/CSV.pm |
| 21:25 | there are a few Text::CSV | |
| 21:25 | trying to figure out what one you have :) | |
| 21:26 | thats the one i have installed 1.21 | |
| 21:26 | ./koha_perl_deps.pl -i will tell ya | |
| 21:26 | and that module has no setdelimiter | |
| 21:28 | libsysguy | grr yes ies 1.21 |
| 21:29 | rangi | there ya go :) |
| 21:29 | looking at the wrong man page :) | |
| 21:29 | libsysguy | so im confused |
| 21:29 | jcamins | libsysguy: ask druthb which module sheuses. |
| 21:29 | s/sheuses/she uses/ | |
| 21:29 | libsysguy | i think druthb is afk |
| 21:29 | rangi | was it this one ? |
| 21:29 | druthb | no, she's not. |
| 21:29 | libsysguy | eeek druthb |
| 21:29 | rangi | http://search.cpan.org/~erangel/Text-CSV/ |
| 21:29 | libsysguy | your back |
| 21:29 | druthb | I use Text::CSV_XS, mostly] |
| 21:29 | rangi | your face |
| 21:30 | sekjal | libsysguy: I've been working on the wrapup for bug 5079 |
| 21:30 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5079 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, tdavis, ASSIGNED , Make display of shelving location and call number in XSLT results controlled by sysprefs |
| 21:30 | libsysguy | sweet...anything you need from me? |
| 21:30 | sekjal | not at this time |
| 21:30 | going to add two more | |
| 21:31 | libsysguy | two more patches? |
| 21:31 | sekjal | the one I described before (about not showing location if there are no items) |
| 21:31 | libsysguy | oh right |
| 21:31 | sorry to cause some kind of stirr with that patch | |
| 21:31 | sekjal | and one that will give distinct all the distinct combos of location/callnumber in the same line, separated by commas, independent of status |
| 21:32 | libsysguy: don't worry about it, you're just fine. it's good work | |
| 21:32 | bug 4032 is completely independent | |
| 21:32 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4032 enhancement, P1, ---, henridamien, NEW , XSLT systempreference should take a path to file rather than YesNo |
| 21:33 | libsysguy | that is what I was kind of thinking...im glad you guys are really strict on scope creep |
| 21:33 | wizzyrea | wait wait |
| 21:33 | did someone just say they were GLAD | |
| 21:33 | that we were STRICT | |
| 21:33 | someone quote him quick | |
| 21:33 | :) | |
| 21:34 | libsysguy | hehe |
| 21:34 | wayy better than the last place i worked...it was constant creep | |
| 21:34 | sekjal | I'm all for using Bugzilla's "blocks" and "depends on" feature to link many, narrowly-focused bug reports together |
| 21:34 | small patches are easy to test | |
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| 21:35 | rangi | sekjal++ |
| 21:35 | cait | sekjal++ :) |
| 21:35 | libsysguy | druthb how do you set a delimiter in CSV_XS...i don't see it in the man page...it just says you can |
| 21:35 | sekjal++ | |
| 21:36 | oh wait | |
| 21:36 | i just missed it druthb | |
| 21:36 | druthb | libsysguy: my $csv=Text::CSV->new({sep_char=>'|'}); |
| 21:36 | * sekjal | holds his tongue about how small patches are easy to test, and he likes that because he's lazy |
| 21:38 | rangi | lazy is good |
| 21:39 | its the learning that doing stuff upfront to get set up, means you can do lots less later thats the good lazy | |
| 21:39 | wizzyrea | ^^ |
| 21:39 | rangi | im too lazy to go round having to pull commits out of mater |
| 21:39 | master | |
| 21:40 | id rather we are sure about them before we put them in :) | |
| 21:41 | sekjal | agreed |
| 21:41 | and with that, I've got to dash | |
| 21:41 | there are hungry cats somewhere in Northampton | |
| 21:41 | rangi | another question from disney |
| 21:41 | sekjal | goodnight, all! |
| 21:43 | wizzyrea | oh, my question from earlier |
| 21:43 | maybe someone knows | |
| 21:43 | does deleting a patron delete their reading history? | |
| 21:43 | cait | hm |
| 21:44 | it should not I think | |
| 21:44 | but never looked into it | |
| 21:44 | wizzyrea | keeps their borrowernumber? |
| 21:44 | their usage stats are kept I'm sure | |
| 21:44 | cait | I am not entirely sure - but you keep the patron too |
| 21:44 | in deletedborrowers | |
| 21:44 | wizzyrea | oo |
| 21:44 | yea | |
| 21:44 | true | |
| 21:44 | rangi | the stats table exists |
| 21:44 | cait | so why should it delete the oldissues |
| 21:44 | druthb left #koha | |
| 21:44 | rangi | that wont get delete |
| 21:44 | d | |
| 21:45 | but check the foreign key constraints | |
| 21:45 | it might be set to cascade deletes for old_issues | |
| 21:45 | wizzyrea | I personally think it'd be a good thing |
| 21:45 | rangi | so the db might delete that row |
| 21:45 | wizzyrea | to delete the oldissues when a patron is deleted |
| 21:45 | but not the stats | |
| 21:45 | rangi | but the stats are still in statistics |
| 21:45 | wizzyrea | I was thinking about the question from ms. peel |
| 21:46 | cait | hm |
| 21:46 | rangi | and like cait said borrowers in deletedborrowers (assuming you use the interface to delete them, not in the db that is) |
| 21:46 | wizzyrea | right right |
| 21:46 | rangi | either way, yeah the statistics are still there |
| 21:46 | is the short answer to her | |
| 21:46 | you can get the xp for that:) | |
| 21:47 | cait | people use issues tabe a lot for statistics too... and if the deletedborrower borrower is deleted, you couldn't reconstruct the person from the borrowernumber, right? |
| 21:47 | lol | |
| 21:47 | this game is evil | |
| 21:48 | rangi | no |
| 21:48 | yeah, ppl should use the stats table :) | |
| 21:48 | its what its for | |
| 21:49 | wizzyrea | ah, that has been bugging me all day. |
| 21:51 | cait | 131 gold pieces - I am rich, but still no chocolate fish |
| 21:51 | rangi | ? |
| 21:51 | wizzyrea | her question |
| 21:51 | :) | |
| 21:52 | I didn't have the opportunity to dig up the answer myself | |
| 21:52 | rangi | so |
| 21:52 | if the next ALA is at anaheim | |
| 21:52 | jcamins | Ooh, I helped people on IRC yesterday and today. :) |
| 21:52 | rangi | and disney use Koha |
| 21:52 | bg | rangi football today? |
| 21:52 | rangi | that oughta work |
| 21:52 | cait | and you fed us joghurt pops |
| 21:52 | :) | |
| 21:52 | rangi | bg: he didnt want to play |
| 21:52 | wizzyrea | aww |
| 21:52 | rangi | we'll try again next week |
| 21:52 | bg | yeah awww |
| 21:52 | cait | aww |
| 21:52 | wizzyrea | that means we should have kohacon at disney world |
| 21:52 | jcamins | Who did I help yesterday? |
| 21:52 | wizzyrea | :P |
| 21:53 | probably everybody jcamins | |
| 21:53 | because you're helpful like that | |
| 21:53 | rangi | nz vs australia in rugby tonight tho |
| 21:53 | wizzyrea | woot woot |
| 21:53 | jcamins | :) |
| 21:53 | bg | jcamins you helped rangi with weighted fields |
| 21:53 | rangi | yep |
| 21:53 | jcamins | Right! Thank you. |
| 21:53 | rangi | who knows about marcedit? |
| 21:53 | wizzyrea | you helped me with git today |
| 21:53 | rangi | and can help the disney dude |
| 21:53 | bg | terry reese |
| 21:53 | rangi | wish he would just release it with a floss license |
| 21:53 | jcamins | Disney? Huh? |
| 21:54 | wizzyrea | no lie |
| 21:54 | bg | yeah you ever ask him that? |
| 21:54 | rangi | lots of people have |
| 21:54 | wizzyrea | wasn't he concerned about it not being perfect? |
| 21:54 | bg | I asked him once and got the answer - it's his employers decision or something like that |
| 21:54 | rangi | david hartman, on the devel list |
| 21:54 | bg | gotta run |
| 21:54 | wizzyrea | we should approach his employer :P |
| 21:54 | rangi | ive heard both of those |
| 21:55 | but it is copyright him istn it? | |
| 21:55 | wizzyrea | yea, but if it's a cop out |
| 21:55 | maybe his boss could compel him. | |
| 21:55 | :P | |
| 21:55 | * wizzyrea | is evil. |
| 21:55 | wizzyrea | so what if it's got a horrid wrong hack in it? |
| 21:55 | let someone else fix it :P | |
| 21:56 | jcamins | rangi: to be fair, employment law in the US is pretty screwed up, so it could be that it actually is his employer's decision. |
| 21:56 | rangi | yeah thats true |
| 21:56 | oregon state | |
| 21:56 | wizzyrea | oo |
| 21:56 | and universities are weird about that stuf | |
| 21:56 | rangi | http://osuosl.org/ |
| 21:56 | doesnt seem like it would be a hard sell | |
| 21:57 | wizzyrea | bug uni tho |
| 21:57 | the values may not carry over :/ | |
| 21:57 | rangi | true |
| 21:57 | wizzyrea | aight, see u peeps later |
| 21:57 | rangi | cya later |
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| 22:35 | Topic for #koha is now Next General IRC Meeting 7 September 2011 at 18.00 UTC. This is a nominations meeting. | |
| 22:41 | rhcl | ooohhh netsplit |
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| 22:52 | bg | hiya rhcl |
| 22:55 | rhcl | hey, whats up? |
| 22:56 | 6:00pm, we're closing -- I'm out! | |
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