IRC log for #koha, 2011-07-27

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00:02 druthb joined #koha
00:02 druthb o/  :D
00:02 rangi heya druthb
00:03 druthb hi, rangi!
00:04 jenkins_koha Starting build 20 for job Koha_3.4.x (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #18 1 j 12 h ago)
00:06 Space_Librarian hey ruth!
00:07 druthb hi, shelley!
00:09 Agent_Dani Hi
00:09 wahanui hi, Agent_Dani
00:39 pianohacker joined #koha
00:39 pianohacker hola!
00:45 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.4.x build #20: STILL UNSTABLE in 41 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.4.x/20/
00:45 * Chris Cormack: Bug 6611 : With the change to making cardnumber a nullable field, we need to pass it around when we are updating borrowers, to make sure we don't null it
00:45 * ian.walls: Bug 6614: Remove newlines from order notes when exporting to CSV
00:45 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6611 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, kyle.m.hall, RESOLVED FIXED, patron barcode removed when editing an attribute
00:45 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6614 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, ian.walls, ASSIGNED , CSV Basket Export gives blank lines
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01:08 glernil good day!
01:09 pianohacker hi, glernil
01:09 glernil i updated my koha installation to the latest version but when i check my server information in the about page the version is still 3.4.2
01:29 daniele joined #koha
01:33 daniele Hi everyone, we have just upgraded to Koha 3.04.02.000 and the catalog search under Circulation doesn't seem to work. Any ideas?
01:34 rangi search everywhere else works?
01:34 and you upgraded from what version
01:34 ?
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01:39 daniele Upgraded from 3.00.05   Strange when doing a catalog search from More->Cataloging it brings back results
01:40 rangi when you did the upgrade you did run the remove items from marc, and rebuilt the zebra index eh?
01:41 daniele I am not sure what they are, how do I do that?
01:41 rangi ahh its in the upgrade instructions
01:41 lemme find it for you
01:42 daniele Ok awesome
01:42 rangi http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b7e32fa49c564#l62
01:42 starts on line 62 there (that INSTALL file should have come in the tarball, i hope)
01:43 phlunk3 rangi, daniele is talking about the install I was busy with. Unfortunately I installed from a package. Is this script somewhere in the package installation also?
01:43 rangi it is
01:43 koha-upgrade-to-3.4
01:44 if you have installed from the packages
01:44 then
01:44 koha-rebuild-zebara -f
01:44 eythian you don't need to rebuild
01:44 it's part of the upgrade script
01:44 rangi cool
01:44 then just the first one
01:44 phlunk3 tx
01:45 eythian just fyi, right this moment I'm making the 3.4.3 packages :)
01:46 yhager joined #koha
01:48 yhager Is there a way to pre-fill Koha [default] item type (#942c) when importing MARC record from Z39.50? This used to work, but does not anymore on 3.4.2
01:49 phlunk3 any idea about this?
01:49 koha-upgrade-to-3.4
01:49 No Koha instances were found to upgrade.
01:49 rangi you need to give it your instance name too
01:50 phlunk3 where can I find the instance name? lol
01:50 rangi you forgot it?
01:50 look in /etc/koha/sites
01:50 phlunk3 I dont know if I ever set one.
01:50 rangi when you did koha-create
01:50 you had to give it a name
01:50 phlunk3 I believe I never did koha-create lol.
01:50 maybe Im wrong ;)
01:51 /etc/koha/sites == empty
01:51 rangi i dont think you are actually running from the packages then
01:52 or not fully ;)
01:53 phlunk3 basically we did a new install from the package and then dumped our old db over top of the new one.
01:53 rangi yhager: i think in old koha, the first itemtype was selected by default, this no longer happens its now a blank, this is because people hit save without checking and made a mess
01:53 hmm so when you did the install from the packages
01:53 you never than ran a koha-create to create the db etc
01:53 ?
01:53 than=then
01:54 yhager rangi: my librarians are complaining for the need of this extra step. Is there a way to have it default to "Book" in my case?
01:54 phlunk3 yesterday, and I am not sure what command was used tbh :S didnt document it lol
01:54 rangi yhager: not that i know of
01:54 yhager rangi: ok, thanks
01:55 rangi: actually, when editing the framework, under "Advanced constraints" I see "Default Value"
01:55 phlunk3 sudo apt-get install koha -- I installed with this command.
01:56 rangi ahh you want koha-common
01:56 phlunk3 is already at latest version
01:56 rangi yup, but you just wanted that, not koha proper, then just run koha-create etc
01:57 phlunk3 ahh ok, do I need to start over then?
01:57 rangi to be able to use all the cool scripts, yup
01:57 or
01:57 phlunk3 no way for me to possibly update the zebra index via a pl script from the tarball?
01:58 rangi yes, there is, but you need to do the remove items from marc bit first
01:58 phlunk3 ahh ok
01:58 rangi which you should be able to do as well
01:59 phlunk3 are you able to tell me how? or you just know it should be possible? :P
02:00 rangi youd have to find the script, (the path is in the INSTALL file) then export the path to your KOHA_CONF file and run it
02:00 libsysguy joined #koha
02:00 eythian you'd be better off not using the 'koha' package, and just using 'koha-common'. That's why there's a warning about doing that on the instructions page :)
02:01 libsysguy rangi you around?
02:01 rangi yep
02:01 phlunk3 what did you mean by export the path to the KOHA_CONF file?
02:01 libsysguy he sorry i bailed earlier
02:01 the cable gu showed up lol
02:01 rangi export KOHA_CONF=/path/to/koha-conf.xml
02:01 libsysguy: no worries
02:02 libsysguy i have an error in the bug_5549 branch
02:02 and i was wondering if you were seeing it too
02:02 >> Can't locate DateTime/Format/DateParse.pm in @INC
02:02 is that something new that was implemented?
02:03 rangi if you look at that bug
02:03 http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]ug.cgi?id=5549#c5
02:03 huginn` 04Bug 5549: enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, ian.walls, ASSIGNED , Hourly Loans
02:04 rangi so colins work added in 2 new dependencies
02:04 wizzyrea ah yea a new dependency
02:04 or two
02:04 rangi so you will need to install thems
02:04 and hi wizzyrea
02:04 libsysguy cpan then?
02:04 wizzyrea hi thar
02:04 libsysguy hey wizzyrea
02:04 rangi id apt-get them
02:04 sudo apt-get install libdatetime-set-perl
02:04 libsysguy gotcha
02:04 rangi etc
02:05 cool
02:06 libsysguy that was the only one right?
02:06 rangi nope 2 of them
02:07 phlunk3 sorry to keep bugging u rangi, maybe I followed your instructions wrong but am getting this error from the script (not a pl guy lol)
02:07 Can't locate object method "export" via package "KOHA_CONF" (perhaps you forgot to load "KOHA_CONF"?) at ./misc/maintenance/remove_​items_from_biblioitems.pl line 2.
02:07 libsysguy o i see...
02:07 rangi libdatetime-format-dateparse-perl maybe
02:07 ahh no
02:07 phlunk3: run export KOHA_CONF=blah
02:07 on the commandline
02:07 then
02:07 run the script
02:07 phlunk3 ahh ok lol
02:08 thx
02:08 libsysguy ok that fixed that one but now there is a dependency for Readonly.pm
02:08 grr
02:09 wizzyrea testing is fun!
02:09 libsysguy i know
02:09 * libsysguy pulls out hair
02:09 eythian $ apt-file search Readonly.pm
02:09 libchi-perl: /usr/share/perl5/CHI/Test/Driver/Readonly.pm
02:09 libreadonly-perl: /usr/share/perl5/Readonly.pm
02:10 * wizzyrea considers the fact that you're a guy, wonders whether your mom's dad is bald, and advises you not to do that
02:10 eythian $ sudo aptitude install libreadonly-perl
02:10 libsysguy yeah...or google search debian perl readonly.pm
02:10 yayy it ran...now to test lol
02:10 should i put that in the ticket?
02:11 eythian wouldn't hurt
02:11 wizzyrea might help
02:11 libsysguy ok i see that the circ page it looking good :D
02:11 although im not sure what values are allowed in there for unit
02:12 yayyy testing
02:12 rangi you saw comment 7 eh?
02:13 * libsysguy is tired and is missing all kinds of things tonight
02:14 libsysguy yeah i did insert that sql file
02:14 rangi cool
02:15 libsysguy looks like it let me insert :D :D
02:17 phlunk3 ok I have run the remove_items_from_bibliotheek.pl or so, do I need to also update the zebra index somehow? search is still not responding :)
02:17 wizzyrea you'll need to do a full reindex.
02:17 rangi yup
02:17 phlunk3 tx
02:18 rangi and also after that, make sure zebrasrv is actually running ;)
02:18 wizzyrea ^^ has made that mistake
02:18 * wizzyrea facepalms
02:18 phlunk3 I dont even know what zebrasrv is lmao.
02:19 eythian phlunk3: it probably won't be running for you actually, as you're using a package install but not using the package system to run your instance.
02:19 (and the package system configures zebra for you)
02:19 phlunk3 Im going to cry, aren't I?
02:19 eythian yep
02:20 I'd recommend removing the koha package, then using koha-create, and loading the data into the database that it creates for you
02:20 it'd make life so much easier
02:20 huginn` New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6636] a syspref to display 'powered by Koha' text to OPAC footer <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6636>
02:21 eythian You'd probably be able to make that work in less time then it would take to make everything happy the way you're doing.
02:23 phlunk3 thx
02:25 eythian basic procedure for getting it working is: apt-get install koha-common mysql-server ; vim /etc/koha/koha-sites.conf as documented on the wiki ; koha-create --create-db <instancename>
02:25 and it's running
02:25 then you can load data in or whatever
02:25 tweak the apache config if you have to
02:26 then run koha-upgrade-to-3.4, and all should be well
02:26 phlunk3 thx, have removed koha and will start again once I find the wiki document :)
02:27 eythian http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]on_Debian_Squeeze
02:27 http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]e_Debian_packages <-- also a useful reference I just discovered
02:28 phlunk3 for domain, does it not need the subdomain? (in the conf file)
02:28 eythian well the idea is you can have multiple libraries
02:29 so you might have library1.myserver.com, library2.myserver.com
02:29 phlunk3 got ya thx
02:29 eythian where library1 and library2 are instance names
02:29 libsysguy rangi, the hourlyloans field doesn't really define any set values for the issuelength field
02:29 it just sets the default to days
02:29 eythian but, it's quite OK to edit the apache config after setup to be what you need
02:29 rangi k
02:30 any questions you have for colin, probably best to add to the bug so he sees them
02:30 libsysguy oh ok
02:30 phlunk3 intrapre/suff and DEFAULTSQL, what are these for?
02:30 libsysguy thanks rangi
02:30 sorry i was kinda using you as the goto lol
02:30 rangi no problem
02:30 s'ok, im just happy you are testing ;)
02:30 phlunk3 can I give defaultsql the path to the dump from the last installation?
02:31 eythian phlunk3: intrasuffix is so you can put -admin or something as the suffix on the name of the staff client
02:31 I wouldn't
02:31 it's best to work with koha-dump-defaults
02:31 phlunk3 ok thx :)
02:31 eythian you probably won't need it, it's OK if it's not specified
02:31 phlunk3 also problem, I uninstalled the koha package but the installation is still sitting there when I access the site from a browser, do I need to manually remove this somehow?
02:32 eythian hmm, odd. Maybe you need to do an apache restart
02:33 libsysguy left #koha
02:34 phlunk3 still there lol
02:34 eythian delete all the stuff in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled (assuming that you're not needing anything else on the machine, then kick apache again)
02:35 phlunk3 is already empty ;)
02:36 eythian then...umm
02:36 that's where apache looks for sites.
02:36 so, if it's empty, it shouldn't respond to anything
02:36 phlunk3 yeah, getting very confused at this point lol
02:36 eythian You're doing sudo service apache2 restart
02:36 ?
02:38 phlunk3 yeah
02:39 have a feeling someone has got it directing to the old server or something when theres no site.
02:39 eythian could be I guess.
02:39 phlunk3 will run an install see if it makes anything pop up different lol
02:39 eythian yeah
02:42 pastebot "Phlunk3" at 116.251.188.152 pasted "help :P" (6 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/1118
02:43 phlunk3 ^ should something have happened besides this? or is this an issue because I didnt create a user somewhere?
02:43 eythian no, that's all goo
02:43 d
02:43 exactly what you should see
02:44 phlunk3 what do I need to do further to actually get a web frontend up? :S
02:45 eythian either set up some DNS stuff that points to mylibrary(-admin or whatever).yourdomain, or twiddle the apache config to reflect how your DNS is set up
02:46 phlunk3 ahh got ya :) I see now, duh. Thx mate, will be back once I find some tech guy to do the dns stuff lol.
02:46 wizzyrea twiddle is one of my favorite words
02:46 eythian for testing purposes, it's enough to edit /etc/hosts on your desktop
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02:53 wizzyrea druthb!
02:54 druthb Wizzyrea!
02:54 Brb
02:55 druthb joined #koha
02:55 druthb better.
02:55 pianohacker samba_with_ldap--
02:56 wizzyrea how ya doin?
02:56 pianohacker we need an obliterate command, to instantly give something -100 karma...
02:56 druthb muchmuchmuchmuchmuchmuch better!
02:56 wizzyrea woohoo!
02:56 pianohacker druthb?
02:56 druthb pianohacker?
02:56 pianohacker how'd it go?
02:56 druthb so far, so good.  I'm on the mend, and getting better daily.
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03:04 sekjal she's up and about, and indulging me in discussions of mad schemes
03:04 like turning Koha into a game
03:05 druthb sekjal!
03:05 * druthb hugs him warmly.
03:05 eythian There are new koha 3.4 and 3.5 packages available now, for entertainment only. Not to be taken internally. Keep out of children. If swallowed, induce labour.
03:05 * sekjal is doing a little evening hacking and system upgrading before bed
03:06 wizzyrea eythian: that made me lol
03:06 rangi you should dent that
03:06 * eythian kicks it
03:06 rangi heh
03:07 * Agent_Dani begin to feel a little better.
03:08 phlunk3 ok, I have a fresh install using koha-common. I have a backup of the database which I made before the deletion of the old site. Should I just import that db now and expect everything to work?
03:08 eythian import it, then run koha-upgrade-to-3.4
03:08 then it all should be good, hopefully :)(
03:08 -(
03:17 http://www.demotivation.us/sea[…]ooks-1247061.html
03:21 wizzyrea oh yea that's a great one
03:34 phlunk3 ran the upgrade script, seemed to go fine. unfortunately search still isnt working lol
03:35 eythian sudo /etc/init.d/koha-common restart
03:35 just to be safe
03:35 phlunk3 no love :(
03:35 eythian do you have any books in there?
03:36 phlunk3 well, I am looking at some patrons who have checked out books and am searching on keywords from those books titles
03:36 eythian right
03:36 hmm
03:36 do koha-rebuild-zebra -v -f mylibrary
03:37 shouldn't be necessary, but just in case
03:37 it'll also count out your biblios, so giving you an idea how many there are, and you can see if it looks reasonable
03:37 phlunk3 hopefully it is :P
03:37 biblio is book or?
03:38 eythian a biblio contains items, items are books (or magazines, or videos, or...)
03:38 phlunk3 ahh ok :)
03:38 eythian you have one biblio for "the two towers" but maybe 10 items.
03:38 phlunk3 I dunno how many there are meant to be, just got asked to update this version of their install. really know nothing of the system so far.
03:39 eythian also, you are hitting the koha that you just re-set-up, not the weird one that wouldn't go away?
03:39 phlunk3 lol yeah the weird one went away, hitting this new install now
03:39 eythian OK cool
03:40 phlunk3 when I go to home->cataloging, there is nothing there but a button to add a new record, is that bad?
03:41 eythian yes
03:41 well
03:41 slightly
03:41 oh no
03:41 wait
03:41 phlunk3 lol
03:41 eythian that's normal :)
03:41 wizzyrea I was gonna say
03:41 that's normal
03:41 :P
03:41 eythian I was thinking of something else
03:42 phlunk3 when I search there it says "No Results Found" then underneath is a big list of results under "Biblios in reservoir" that also normal?
03:42 eythian hmm
03:42 it can be
03:42 yeah
03:42 wizzyrea that makes it sound like you staged the records but didn't actually import them
03:43 eythian wizzyrea: it's a migration from an older version
03:43 wizzyrea ah
03:43 nm then.
03:43 eythian and the records are apparently there, just not the search
03:43 phlunk3 yeah search the catalogue seems to be the big issue, but that said its the only part we can actually test at the moment anyway lol.
03:44 I do see a list of patrons etc and items connected to them which they have checked out. s
03:44 eythian well, when you ran koha-rebuild-zebra, what did it output?
03:44 phlunk3 yes
03:44 I will see :P
03:45 more than my buffer displays I am afraid
03:45 eythian the bottom parts are the most interesting
03:45 (that's usually where errors show up)
03:46 pastebot "Phlunk3" at 116.251.188.152 pasted "output from rebuild" (23 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/1119
03:46 eythian I'm starting to think that perhaps you have a record that's causing zebra to choke
03:46 skipping biblios
03:46 hmm
03:46 oh
03:46 drat
03:46 the rebuild script does biblios first,
03:47 can you scroll up and get the stuff with biblios?
03:47 phlunk3 Ill run it and make a log for u
03:47 eythian it shouldn't be far above that
03:47 oh
03:47 actually, it probably will be a long way up
03:48 yeah, make a log
03:48 just in case it's something in the middle somewhere
03:58 phlunk3 and the server is so blocked off I cant even get the log off the thing haha
03:58 what exactly are you wanting to see from the log?
03:58 eythian if the reindexing of biblios errors out at any point
03:58 pastebot "Phlunk3" at 202.49.168.172 pasted "output from rebuild" (40 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/1120
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03:59 eythian phlunk3: that's not readable because the computer you're using is doing weird things to the line endings
04:00 phlunk3 haha its just line endings for the .... and it is in the perl script I believe someone probably edited the file with windows lol
04:00 eythian on a terminal it appears with newlines
04:00 phlunk3 those line endings are just following ...'s :) not any actual output
04:01 yeap, those are windows breaks I believe. had the prob in the past when I had a developer in my team who loved windows lol
04:01 eythian there is missing content, your previous paste included it.
04:02 phlunk3 ahh yeah that got spat out by zebra not by the script itself I believe.
04:02 eythian yeah, but you don't get windows linebreaks in output from a program running on Linux.
04:02 (typically, anyway)
04:02 phlunk3 u do, thats just a text output, not an attempt at a new line
04:02 that code will be in the perl file likely
04:02 eythian but in real life, I think it makes a new line. Or it overwrites the previous line
04:02 phlunk3 maybe its cause of the os' weird logging attempt tho
04:02 yeah it overwrites it
04:02 eythian hmm, perhaps then some output didn't get logged
04:03 did you log stdout and stderr?
04:03 right, yeah, so it's CR, not LF.
04:03 where windows is CRLF for newline
04:03 and Linux is LF
04:03 pastebot "Phlunk3" at 202.49.168.172 pasted "first lines are repeated 100's of times ;)" (26 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/1121
04:04 eythian that's the authorities. Need the same thing but for biblios
04:04 phlunk3 hmmz, I fear that I do not know how to log that. I push the script to the log file but it still spits out all the zebra messages. maybe thats logged somewhere by the system itself?
04:05 eythian no, it's not
04:05 you did 'koha-rebuild.... > file.out'
04:05 to get that?
04:05 phlunk3 yeah
04:06 eythian if so, do '.... &> file.out' instead
04:06 phlunk3 thx
04:06 eythian that'll grab stderr as well
04:15 phlunk3 is there a specific part of the log u want to see? copying the thing off the server seems to be a pain because I have no key setup there to give it access to use scp lol
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04:15 Judit hi
04:17 eythian phlunk3: you can use scp without a key, it works just like ssh
04:17 phlunk3 u can if u have a server u can connect to without a key ;)
04:17 eythian anyway, the end of the biblios stuff is the important bit
04:17 oh right
04:17 similar to the bit you pasted of the authorities
04:17 Judit: hola
04:18 Judit hola, que tal?
04:18 still raining and freezing there?
04:18 phlunk3 it should say biblios instead of authorities/
04:18 ?
04:19 eythian phlunk3: yarp
04:19 Judit: not raining, fortunately
04:19 not warm though
04:20 Judit :)
04:21 pastebot "Phlunk3" at 116.251.188.152 pasted "biblio log info?" (60 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/1122
04:21 phlunk3 I think thats correct info for you, ofcourse its not all the entries.
04:22 eythian yeah
04:22 good news and bad news:
04:22 16:11:20-27/07 zebraidx(4204) [log] Records: 10326 i/u/d 10326/0/0
04:23 good news: you had 10,326 records inserted successfully
04:23 bad news: this isn't your problem then.
04:23 phlunk3 saw that and worried, bit strange its got new stuff when it hasnt changed since last time I ran it.
04:23 eythian this command forces it to reindex _everything_
04:23 phlunk3 ahh ok
04:23 any other ideas then?
04:23 eythian what's ps ax|grep zebra say?
04:24 pastebot "Phlunk3" at 116.251.188.152 pasted "ps ax|grep zebra" (3 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/1123
04:25 eythian OK. Once I do those diagnostics and they all look like that, it means that everything is working.
04:25 phlunk3 noo :P
04:26 eythian du -h /var/lib/koha/mylibrary
04:26 what's the size of '.'
04:26 rangi make sure you have the syspref switched on to actually use zebra
04:26 in system preferences, searching
04:27 pastebot "Phlunk3" at 116.251.188.152 pasted "du -h /var/lib/koha/mylibrary" (9 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/1124
04:27 eythian oh yeah, good point
04:27 OK, that's about the right size for actually having data
04:27 phlunk3 yeah it says use the zebra search engine
04:28 eythian even accounting for the fact the option becomes a double-negative?
04:29 phlunk3 NoZebra: Use
04:29 eythian OK :)
04:29 phlunk3 if I set to not use it works :/
04:29 eythian wait, what?
04:29 wahanui i think wait, is it only in items?
04:30 eythian oh
04:30 I guess it will
04:30 as it won't be using zebra, just the crappy build in method
04:30 phlunk3 I presume its then using some other search engine which sucks
04:30 NoZebraIndexes  -- could the values of this matter?
04:30 eythian yeah
04:30 rangi id check the zebra log
04:30 eythian not if you're using zebra
04:30 worth a shot
04:31 /var/log/koha/mylibrary
04:31 has everything
04:32 pastebot "Phlunk3" at 116.251.188.152 pasted "end of the error log from zebra" (19 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/1125
04:33 phlunk3 ^ just the end of the error file, but could actually be an issue?
04:33 eythian no it's not
04:33 that's not zebra's error log
04:33 phlunk3 ahh ok
04:33 eythian that's apache
04:33 also, it's an hour and a half ago :)
04:33 phlunk3 idd
04:34 only error in zebra log is old too
04:34 20110727 15:35:21 mylibrary-koha-zebra: client (pid 2794) killed by signal 15, stopping
04:35 eythian hmm.
04:35 I think I'm getting stumped
04:36 I hate how zebra logs almost nothing
04:36 do the access.log files have what you'd expect?
04:38 phlunk3 yeap :/
04:40 eythian hmm
04:40 huginn` New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 4415] child record only using parent's info <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4415>
04:41 eythian I hate how zebra is so opaque when it comes to things like this
04:41 we need some kind of diagnostic system for it
04:41 rangi id stop it running from the init.d
04:41 mtj heya
04:41 rangi start it by hand
04:41 eythian yeah
04:41 rangi and that way you will see searches hitting it
04:42 and see the log, it logs way more than we are collecting
04:42 so the problem is most likely something we did
04:42 mtj yeah
04:42 eythian kill it and run something like: zebrasrv -v all -f /etc/koha/sites/mylibrary/koha-conf.xml
04:42 rangi as the right user
04:42 mtj $ zebrasrv -f  ./koha-xml.conf
04:43 phlunk3 is there a user setup for it specifically by the koha-common package
04:43 ?
04:43 rangi sudo -u mylibrary-koha  zebrasrv -v all -f  /etc/koha/sites/mylibrary/koha-conf.xml
04:43 or the like
04:43 eythian koha-foreach zebrasrv -v all -f /etc/koha/sites/mylibrary/koha-conf.xml
04:43 phlunk3: yeah
04:43 but my command skips the need for that
04:43 mtj i have very good success with zebra problemsm running it like that
04:43 phlunk3 what is the process I am actually trying to stop?
04:43 eythian zebrasrv
04:43 wahanui zebrasrv is running eh?
04:44 eythian or the command rangi posted, probably better as it'll have less going on
04:46 phlunk3 ok so after running rangi's command what am I looking for?
04:46 rangi do a search
04:46 see what happens
04:47 eythian it should scroll up stuff
04:47 pastebot "Phlunk3" at 116.251.188.152 pasted "output from rangi's command" (34 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/1126
04:47 phlunk3 ^^ maybe I didnt stop it properly?
04:47 eythian looks like
04:47 mtj Zebra server already running [
04:48 $ sudo killall zebrasrv ;)
04:48 then restart yr zebra
04:48 phlunk3 also does the same thing.
04:49 eythian ps ax|grep zebra
04:49 I wonder if there's a stuck zebra process
04:49 phlunk3 kill those 3 yeah?
04:49 eythian well, what does it say?
04:49 pastebot "Phlunk3" at 116.251.188.152 pasted "ps ax|grep zebra" (3 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/1127
04:49 mtj if yr running 3, thats 2 too many
04:50 eythian there's only one there
04:50 rangi right the daemon is restarting it
04:50 like ti should
04:50 stop it properly, with the init.d script
04:50 mtj ah your daemon is restarting them
04:51 eythian sudo /etc/init.d/koha-common stop
04:51 then see if they're still there
04:51 phlunk3 it is
04:51 or, they are ;)
04:51 eythian odd
04:51 anyway, kill 3712
04:52 phlunk3 done, just the autocolor thing remains with zebra in :P
04:52 eythian that's grep :)
04:52 and that's fine
04:52 phlunk3 ahh duh, Im going insane lol.
04:52 eythian now do the command line zebra thing
04:52 sudo -u mylibrary-koha  zebrasrv -v all -f  /etc/koha/sites/mylibrary/koha-conf.xml
04:52 being that
04:53 pastebot "Phlunk3" at 116.251.188.152 pasted "sudo -u mylibrary-koha zebrasrv -v all -f /etc/koha/sites/mylibrary/koha-conf.xml" (45 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/1128
04:53 phlunk3 ^ no extra output when I search
04:54 eythian well, that'll explain why you get no results
04:54 rangi yeah, so its not actually using zebra
04:54 eythian but not why that's happening
04:54 mtj zebra syspref is on?
04:54 phlunk3 yes
04:55 mtj apache.conf points to wrong koha-xml.conf file?
04:57 phlunk3 dont believe so, I used the apache.conf created in koha-httpd.conf
04:57 rather, overwrote apache.conf with the koha-httpd.conf
04:58 mtj yaz-client is the next debugging step....
04:58 rangi umm
04:58 you shouldnt have needed to do any overwriting
04:58 eythian phlunk3: wait
04:58 no
04:58 bad
04:58 no biscuit
04:58 phlunk3 haha yay, finally we know what I've done? :P
04:59 Im total newb with this server config stuff, always had sys admins slapping me if I went near it :/
04:59 eythian you have a file called 'mylibrary' in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled, right?
04:59 phlunk3 yes
05:00 eythian OK, so what have you done to apache.conf then?
05:00 phlunk3 I backed it up, then overwrote it with koha-httpd.conf
05:00 which at least made the website come up :P
05:00 eythian that'll be why that other one was being strange
05:01 restore it from backup
05:01 phlunk3 no I did it after the other one was strange, have restored.
05:01 eythian OK, now give apache2 a kick
05:03 phlunk3 yeah now I am back to not accessing anything at all from the url. just a 404
05:04 eythian what URL are you using?
05:04 phlunk3 just the base http url for the server
05:05 bugg phlunk3, perhaps you could pop the files you're playing with in the paste bin so we can check those?
05:05 eythian what URL are you using?
05:05 I need specific details
05:06 phlunk3 is in pm, fresh vm so not sure about security ;) didnt wanna drop it here.
05:06 eythian phlunk3: OK, no problem, got it
05:06 and have you set that in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/mylibrary ?
05:06 I usually put it in as a ServerAlias
05:07 phlunk3 nah I didnt edit that file at all, and I see the problem I guess
05:07 eythian :)
05:07 you'll see the file is split into two parts: OPAC and staff client
05:08 put the appropriate URL in both
05:08 phlunk3 in ServerAlias? I see my ServerName was set wrong, but changing that had no affect
05:09 eythian well, whichever. ServerName will do the same thing
05:09 you did a restart of apache2?
05:09 also, does ServerName have the FQDN that you're using?
05:09 phlunk3 I don't even know what a FQDN is tbh
05:10 eythian whe whole URL, including the domain name
05:10 phlunk3 I've set ServerName to be the same as what you suggested I put in ServerAlias
05:10 eythian (but not the http:// bits)
05:10 phlunk3 yeap
05:10 eythian OK.
05:10 then restart apache2 and see what happens
05:10 actually, stop then start apache2
05:11 sometimes, rarely, it'll get unhappy
05:11 phlunk3 nope no change
05:11 eythian phlunk3: you can't have the same thing twice. You have libraryadmin for both the OPAC and the staff client
05:11 apache won't like that
05:12 phlunk3 ahh lol
05:12 I dont even know what the two are tbh :/
05:12 eythian OPAC is public, staff client is for librarians
05:12 staff client == intranet interface == librarian interface
05:12 OPAC == Online Public Access Catalogue
05:13 also, I wouldn't have the same thing in ServerAlias as ServerName. Probably delete the ServerAlias bits
05:13 phlunk3 ahh okay, either way with them both configured to two different things its still not hitting anything when I go to the url.
05:13 o will try that
05:13 eythian (ServerAlias is just giving it additional names)
05:13 phlunk3 still no love.
05:14 eythian you are doing apache2 stop/apache2 start after these?
05:14 phlunk3 yeap
05:14 eythian what files live in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled?
05:15 phlunk3 ok I might have found the issue, httpd.conf is empty lmao
05:15 eythian that's probably OK
05:15 phlunk3 just mylibrary
05:15 eythian mine only has one line, which specifies log formats
05:15 phlunk3 ok good :)
05:16 was wondering how I managed to wipe a file by renaming it lol
05:16 eythian so, what do you get when you go to the URL?
05:16 phlunk3 404
05:16 eythian what exactly is the 404?
05:17 usually it gives a usefulish error
05:17 phlunk3 generic 404 page? :/ just not found anything at /
05:17 eythian OK
05:17 phlunk3 it gives the right ip for the server at least ;)
05:17 ooh I found it
05:17 I think, moment
05:17 eythian hey
05:18 what's the contents of ports.conf
05:18 does it have NameVirtualHost *:80 enabled?
05:20 phlunk3 wasnt what I thought, where is the ports.conf stored?
05:21 eythian /etc/apache2
05:21 I think it may be commented out by default in some cases
05:21 phlunk3 it has 80 enabled, but I am hitting it at port 8080 I just saw at bottom of the 404
05:22 eythian Does it look like this:
05:22 phlunk3 I might just leave it tbh and have one of the tech guys have a look at it in the morning. not really a koha issue atm anyway although its cool u r trying to help. probably just an issue with the httpd config.
05:22 pastebot "eythian" at 202.78.240.7 pasted "ports.conf" (23 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/1129
05:22 eythian also, don't hit it on 8080
05:22 it's running on 80
05:23 phlunk3 exactly the same except for :     NameVirtualHost *:443 isnt in mine
05:23 eythian OK, that's fine, you don't need the 443 stuff
05:23 phlunk3 yeah I cant hit it at 80 I think that the tech guy set up some redirect or so and only redirected this domain to port 8080 lol
05:24 eythian ah
05:24 the best way to deal with that would be get rid of the redirect
05:24 phlunk3 could explain a lot
05:24 eythian and just hit the server directly
05:24 yeah
05:24 phlunk3 yeah, not sure why its going to the vm after something else. not even sure if thats the case. just cant think of why else Id always be hitting 8080
05:25 eythian so, the 404 was saying htat you're hitting 8080, but the browser doesn't think you are?
05:25 phlunk3 browser has no idea, 404 says I am, if I put :80 in the url it gets out of there right quick ;) hence I guessed the redirect
05:26 eythian that is really strange.
05:26 phlunk3 ahh it always jumps out of the url lol. just a browser thing I guess
05:26 eythian I guess so.
05:26 I don't think I've seen that kind of thing before.
05:26 phlunk3 nevermind man, I'll keep looking at it, will let u know tomorrow what the issue is supposing I get it fixed lol
05:27 eythian PL :)
05:27 err
05:27 OK :)
05:27 bugg phlunk, if you put :80 into your url bar, the browser is likely rewriting it, since that's the default http port.
05:30 phlunk3 yeah bugg lol :) realised that after checking on another one lol
05:30 gonna head off :) thanks for all the help. will report ;)
05:31 eythian cool, cya
05:35 marc--
05:35 liberty--
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06:07 huginn` New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5786] Move AllowOnShelfHolds system preference to the Circulation Matrix <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5786>
06:29 New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5788] Move ReservesMaxPickupDelay system preference to the Circulation Matrix. <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5788>
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06:41 reiveune hello
06:41 wahanui privet, reiveune
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06:54 lds hello koha
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06:59 francharb hello all
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07:01 julian hello
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07:16 paul_p hello world
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07:18 rangi hi paul_p
07:19 paul_p: http://www.chorewars.com/invit[…]?id=13748136e842c
07:19 you can join the Koha team, and earn points for signing off, sending patches etc :)
07:22 paul_p really ? how does it work ?
07:24 rangi i can set up tasks, and people can claim the task when they do it
07:25 its really for getting children to do their chores, but it works as a fun thing to do, for sign off days etc
07:28 paul_p rangi, ok, tipaul joined...
07:29 rangi and already 50 points :)
07:30 if you have any ideas for other tasks to add, let me know
07:30 paul_p 50 ? I see 100 (I claimed twice the XP for 5872, I spent 2 full days on it !)
07:30 wiki :
07:30 -create a new page on the wiki
07:30 - update an existing page on the wiki
07:30 - kill a wandering spammer
07:31 koha-community.org :
07:31 - write an article
07:31 - do some admin on kc.org
07:31 mailing lists:
07:31 - answer a newbie question
07:31 rangi ahh good idea, ill add those now
07:32 paul_p - started a thread
07:32 - started a thread that resulted in more than 10 mails
07:32 conferences
07:32 - attend a conference
07:32 - organize a conference
07:33 Forest of git : you could add "test a patch and add a comment", because someone may take time on a bug, and not sign-off (because there's no patch, or there's a problem and it can't be signed-off)
07:33 rangi ah yep true
07:34 ps, for anyone else, that url i pasted above for paul, should work for you also
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07:38 kf morning #koha
07:41 paul_p too bad it's not translated, it could have worked with my 4 boys... but I think i'll try anyway...
07:41 kf morning paul_p
07:42 paul_p hello kf
07:42 rangi you could write the adventures in french :)
07:42 14 now for the koha one
07:43 kf: http://www.chorewars.com/invit[…]?id=13748136e842c
07:43 you can join paul and I (and others hopefully) earning points doing koha adventures hehe
07:43 kf morning rangi
07:43 hm
07:43 what is this?
07:43 wahanui it has been said that this is a lost case
07:44 kf forget this
07:44 wahanui kf: I forgot this
07:45 paul_p rangi, what does the small pictures (low charisma, medium strength, ...) mean on the adventures (below XP) ?
07:46 kf I am sending me the link home for after work ;)
07:48 rangi thats the bonus you might receive for completing the task
07:48 The six stats define the nature of the adventure, and will determine the stat bonuses that an adventurer receives when they level up. (A 'Low' setting still increases the stat, just less so than 'Medium'.)
07:49 so answering a newbie, gets you wisdom :)
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07:56 abdullatef Hi guys
07:56 I'm abdullatef from Malaysia
07:56 rangi hi abdullatef
07:57 kf hi abdullatef
08:00 paul_p hello abdullatef from Malaysia
08:08 abdullatef thanks
08:09 I need help on koha searching
08:09 I just install Koha 3.4 on ubuntu 11
08:10 i have imported 2 marc record
08:11 but when I search, the record is not found
08:11 please guide me
08:12 rangi do you have zebrasrv running and do you have a cronjob set up to run rebuild_zebra.pl ?
08:17 abdullatef I'm not sure, but I have followed this guide http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ki/Koha_on_Ubuntu
08:17 I have followed step no 4 --> 4 - Setup Zebra Server to Automatically Start on Boot Up
08:17 and step no 5
08:17 but for step no 5, I copied exactly what is written on the wiki and pasted it in file --> /etc/cron.d/koha:
08:19 rangi ps ax|grep zebra
08:19 is zebrasrv running?
08:21 also http://koha-community.org/docu[…]faq/searching/#18
08:21 abdullatef i got this
08:22 abdullatef@abdullatef-VirtualBox:~/koha-latest/koha-3.4.02$ ps ax|grep zebra
08:22 3216 pts/1 D+ 0:00 grep --color=auto zebra
08:22 Is it meaning the zebra server is running?
08:23 rangi no, that means its not
08:23 try
08:23 sudo /etc/init.d/koha-zebra-daemon start
08:24 and then try the ps grep again, and see if now its running
08:26 (if its running there should be about 3 lines returned)
08:28 abdullatef same result but after I run sudo /etc/init.d/koha-zebra-daemon start
08:28 i got
08:28 Starting Zebra Server
08:29 Invalid --user argument: 'abdullatef.koha' (user abdullatef is not in group koha)
08:29 rangi ah
08:29 you need to make the user and group both be koha in that file
08:29 abdullatef usage: daemon [options] [--] [cmd arg...]
08:29 rangi since you are runnin the cronjob as user koha
08:30 you will want zebrasrv to be run as user koha as well
08:30 so edit that file, and change the user to koha
08:30 and try it again
08:31 abdullatef change from abdullatef to koha right?
08:31 wahanui abdullatef: that doesn't look right
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08:31 rangi yes
08:37 abdullatef :) you mean I should change it in this file --> /etc/cron.d/koha right?
08:37 rangi no
08:37 this file /etc/init.d/koha-zebra-daemon
08:38 abdullatef ok
08:45 I have change USER=abdullatef to USER=koha in the file like this : https://sites.google.com/site/[…]koha-zebra-daemon
08:46 rangi ok, try starting it again
08:47 abdullatef ok
08:48 abdullatef@abdullatef-VirtualBox:~/koha-latest/koha-3.4.02$ sudo /etc/init.d/koha-zebra-daemon
08:48 i got this
08:48 rangi start
08:48 abdullatef Starting Zebra Server
08:49 abdullatef@abdullatef-VirtualBox:~/koha-latest/koha-3.4.02$ sudo /etc/init.d/koha-zebra-daemon start
08:49 yes
08:49 i got this
08:49 Starting Zebra Server
08:49 rangi no error messages though?
08:49 abdullatef yes
08:49 rangi try the ps now, and see if the server is running
08:49 and if so
08:49 try a search
08:49 abdullatef no error message
08:50 abdullatef@abdullatef-VirtualBox:~/koha-latest/koha-3.4.02$ ps ax|grep zebra
08:50 i got the same
08:50 3358 pts/1 S+ 0:00 grep --color=auto zebra
08:51 and "no result found" in search
08:51 rangi yep zebrasrv is still not running
08:51 you did create a user named koha, as part of the install?
08:53 abdullatef [I'll be back after a while]
08:57 kf Is someone aware of cool visualizations for holdings?
08:57 I had a coworker show me something for music
08:58 bubbles for genres with bubbles for artits and more bubbles for albums
08:58 rangi hmm
08:59 that would be pretty cool, i havent seen anything though
08:59 kf I thought druthb was playing with something a while ago
08:59 but now she is not here to ask here
08:59 her
09:00 I think you could build some cool things on subjects or classification
09:00 s
09:05 rangi yup, and genre
09:05 for fiction
09:05 * kf nods
09:06 kf one of my coworkers found this: http://www.readwriteweb.com/ar[…]wsing_service.php
09:06 but I would like something more abstract
09:10 abdullatef [I'm return]
09:10 Dear rangi,
09:10 I remember during running perl Makefile.PL
09:11 I write something rather than "enter"
09:12 i mean I wrote abdullatef for User account [koha]
09:16 I'm thinking to re-install
09:18 kf someone should really do something about the overdue jobs ignoring holiday calendar... (no, I am not volunteerng :P)
09:24 and why do we not have a creation date in items :(
09:32 abdullatef anyway, thanks a lot rangi, I'm going home
09:32 paul_p raining like mad here...
09:35 * kf watches the zeppelin crossing in the distance
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11:06 kf Guten Tag Irma :)
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11:16 druthb :D  \o/
11:16 kf hi druthb :)
11:16 how are you today?
11:17 druthb muchmuchmuchmuchmuch better!
11:19 Agent_Dani Morning
11:19 kf :)
11:20 druthb Good morning, Agent_Dani!
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12:22 Agent_Dani Heya, druthb, how are you today?
12:22 druthb doing great! :)
12:24 oleonard Hi everyone
12:24 kf hi oleonard
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12:35 hilongo Hello #koha
12:38 I'm having some problems trying to translate the 008 marc field plugin
12:39 kf is this the new plugin using xml?
12:39 I think it's nto translatable right now (afaik)
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12:52 hilongo hmmm...  maybe that's why I'm having problems  :P
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12:53 hilongo I tried translating the xml file... but nothing happens
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13:12 jcamins_away druthb! Hello!
13:12 And, good morning, #koha
13:12 druthb hi, jcamins!
13:14 * kf waves
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14:04 libsysguy morning #Koha
14:04 kf hi libsysguy
14:04 libsysguy hi kf
14:11 druthb hi, libsysguy! :D
14:14 libsysguy druthb!!!
14:15 * libsysguy missed you
14:15 druthb thanx!  Missed you too...
14:16 libsysguy im about to start using some of your patron migration scripts :D
14:16 druthb awesome!
14:17 libsysguy heck yes
14:22 so im working on the bug 5549 branch and i had to make changes to updatedatabase.pl and kohaversion.pl to update the database.  Now I would like to fetch the latest changes but i have unstaged changes.  what should i do?
14:22 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5549 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, ian.walls, ASSIGNED , Hourly Loans
14:22 jcamins git stash
14:24 libsysguy doh...should have known that
14:25 so to rebase from another branch it should be: git rebase origin/new/awaiting_qa/bug_5549 ?
14:26 jcamins If you've checked out the other branch. I think so.
14:27 libsysguy ok
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14:41 libsysguy so our receipt printers will print web pages and other nonsense but when i try to print checkout slips i get the printer select pop up but the printer never prints
14:41 anybody else have that issue...or was there a setup bit that i missed
14:42 wizzyrea what version?
14:42 libsysguy master
14:42 wizzyrea and which browser?
14:42 libsysguy chrome
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14:50 oleonard That was disorienting.
14:55 * kf nods
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15:02 libsysguy geez what happened while i was away
15:03 wizzyrea: I just tried to print in FF and it worked, but fails in chrome
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15:17 mtj http://www.chorewars.com/chara[…]hp?name=kohaaloha
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15:19 rhcl disoriented i am
15:22 kf hi mtj :)
15:23 mtj heya cait
15:23 kf have to create an accoutn tonight :)
15:26 huginn` New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6636] a syspref to display 'powered by Koha' text to OPAC footer <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6636>
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15:33 Brad Hi. Can anyone help with this error message? "can't call method "subfield" on an undefined value at ......"
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15:47 kf Brad: what happens before you get the error message?
15:48 which version of koha are you using, fresh install ? has it worked before?
15:51 ugh
15:52 ok, changing collection from one collection to another, save, record gets reindexed (checked zebraqueue table) but it's still indexed with the old collection?
15:52 I also checked marcxml and the items table and it looks correct everywhere
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15:57 jcamins Browser caching?
15:58 kf in zebra?
15:58 the zebra search for collection brings up the wrong records
15:58 records with items that are not in this collection
15:58 :(
15:59 jcamins Oh, hm.
15:59 No.
15:59 I was hoping maybe it was just a display issue.
15:59 kf very mysterious
15:59 * kf nods
16:00 kf I have one from the librarian, that he changed at 11am and I just did one, step by step and both show up in the result list for "UNDEF" collection
16:00 although all items are "GES" now
16:01 jcamins Did you reindex with -r?
16:01 kf yes, we did a few days ago- everything seemed ok after that
16:01 but normal indexing should work too, right?
16:01 jcamins Not if it's what I think it is.
16:01 Sounds like you have a corrupt record.
16:01 kf what do you thin it is?
16:01 hm
16:01 it behaves normally
16:02 hmm how can I find out?
16:02 jcamins You should be able to tease an error out of the rebuild_zebra with -v.
16:02 kf complete reindex with -r and -v?
16:02 or just the normal with -v?
16:03 jcamins Normal with -v should give you an error message of some sort.
16:03 I've forgotten exactly what it says, but it's something vague.
16:03 Previous action didn't reach commit or something.
16:03 kf ok
16:03 how do I find the record?
16:04 jcamins Ah. That's the bad news.
16:04 kf hmpf
16:04 ok, tell me
16:04 jcamins -v will tell you what thousand it's in.
16:04 kf what makes a record corrupt anyway? this is such a small library, they don't have a lot of items and all records are from the union catalog
16:05 jcamins Often it's unicode in the call number.
16:11 Or possibly a field with no subfields.
16:11 Or basically anything that isn't very normal.
16:13 kf unicode in the callnumber
16:13 like an umlaut?
16:14 jcamins Yup.
16:14 kf hm
16:14 we have that a lo
16:14 t
16:14 not only in this library
16:14 how do I find the problematic one once I have the 100?
16:14 1000
16:15 jcamins I usually export the MARCXML for those records, and look for the record that doesn't have a closing </record> tag.
16:15 kf hm ok
16:15 hm
16:16 but couldn't you find that with sql too?
16:16 jcamins Hm.
16:16 Yes, you could.
16:16 Good point.
16:16 kf I am trying to do a coutn for closed and open record tags and compare
16:17 jcamins Makes sense.
16:17 kf identical
16:17 3446
16:17 small database
16:18 jcamins Hm.
16:19 kf did like "%</record>" and like "%<record%>
16:20 jcamins There are other causes of index corruption, but that's the one that came to mind.
16:20 Oh, of course!
16:20 kf hm I see umlauts ' and / in the itemcallnumbers
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16:21 jcamins Someone deleted a record right after creating it.
16:21 You're still on 3.2.
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16:21 kf ok?
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16:21 kf how to fix that?
16:21 jcamins You just have to reindex.
16:22 kf we did
16:22 I have new records with the same problem now :(
16:22 jcamins With -r, since you started having problems again?
16:22 kf hm
16:22 not sure we did -r
16:22 will ask
16:25 coworker says we did with -r
16:25 jcamins Hm.
16:26 And you're sure you didn't just create a record and delete it just now while testing something?
16:26 kf no
16:26 I eman I didn't
16:26 I used only existing data, no deletes
16:26 jcamins Hm. I'm out of ideas then.
16:27 kf I will write down your suggestions and sleep over it
16:27 time to go - thx for your help :)
16:27 jcamins Good luck.
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16:29 kf thx!
16:35 wizzyrea i14n question, does any currency system in the world use more than 2 decimal places?
16:36 kf not sure
16:36 * wizzyrea will ask teh googlez
16:36 kf :)
16:36 bye all :)
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16:39 wizzyrea hmm
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16:41 rhcl indonesian rupee?
16:43 rupiah I guess, but no, apparently not more than 2 dp
16:51 wizzyrea i know they can compute exchange rates in 3 dp
16:52 it's academic anyway really.
17:09 you need to laugh: http://www.javacodegeeks.com/2[…]ode-comments.html
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17:15 cait hi #koha
17:16 wizzyrea hi cait
17:19 bg hey cati
17:19 cati
17:19 cait
17:19 doh
17:19 cait hi bg
17:19 chore wars says all my nicks are already taken :(
17:20 wizzyrea chore wars?
17:21 cait a link from chris
17:21 wizzyrea haha
17:21 i just googled it
17:21 that's funny
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17:40 Brooke 0/
17:40 wizzyrea \O
18:11 * Brooke makes a note to get her cat on IRC to liven things up...
18:11 huginn` New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6632] [security] XXS on list name (on admin part) <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6632>
18:21 Brad hi kf it is 3.02.00.007. It has been working. Downloading LC, message comes up when adding the record. after editing when pressing save the error appears.
18:26 cait hm
18:26 have you changed your bibliographic frameworks?
18:39 Brad Yes, we have. Is there a way to roll back to a default?
18:45 cait hm yes
18:45 but it might be more complicated than needed
18:45 what have you changed?
18:45 the mappings?
18:46 Brad: you can try to run the test Bibliographic framework thing from administration
18:46 to see if it complains about something
18:51 Brad hi cait, i am the librarian that is having trouble and Brad is helping me.  I tested the biblio framework and all showed OK. i just changed the mappings from biblio to biblioitems, pressed ok, got out and then went back in and it showed items - not biblioitems - what should it read?
18:52 cait sorry, I am not sure I understand
18:52 what did you change exactly?
18:52 * wizzyrea either, for what that's worth
18:52 cait best is to change from koha-to-marc-mapping so it changes back al frameworks
18:55 Brad in koha-to-marc-mapping --it shows biblo and i tried (just now) to change from biblio to biblioitems but won't do it.  it reverts back to biblio - is that what it is suppose to be?
18:55 wizzyrea sec, reproducing.
18:56 hmm i'm not having a problem doing that
18:56 what version?
18:56 Brad 3.2
18:56 wizzyrea k sec
18:58 hmm I just looked at a 3.2.5 demo install
18:59 3.2.9 even
18:59 and that behavior isn't present :/
19:01 cait in 3.2.2 it's ok too afaik
19:02 we are using that
19:02 and I was checking something in there toda
19:02 y
19:02 is it a nw install? have you already added stuff and configuration?
19:03 Brad original install back in november 2010, i have added 2600 items all from LC download and the last one was when the error msg came up.
19:04 wizzyrea oh, do you perhaps have something weird in that particular record?
19:04 * Brooke guesses yes.
19:06 Brad since koha to marc mapping will only show me biblio and i can't change it to something else what is the program looking in the marc record and can something else be changed in program to accomadate that?
19:09 Brooke wb magnus :)
19:10 Brad i deleted the record and tried to download another title and the error came up when i tried to download from LC
19:10 wizzyrea so before you had this error
19:10 you didn't change anything?
19:10 cait was about to ask that :)
19:11 wizzyrea and what is the exact message?
19:11 you can use paste.koha-community.org if you need to
19:14 Brad not that i can think of.  All arguments must be MARC: field objects at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-​bin/cataloguing/addbiblio.pl line 149.  what is paste.koha-communuity.org?
19:15 wizzyrea a place for you to paste error messages and have a URL to it sent to our channel
19:15 to keep our conversations neat.
19:18 rangi morning
19:18 wizzyrea mornin
19:18 rangi wizzyrea: you forgot to actually sign off the patch :)
19:18 JesseM morning rangi
19:18 * wizzyrea dies
19:19 rangi (you changed the subject but didn't do the -s)
19:19 I can do it for ya, but just fyi
19:19 wizzyrea nah, i'll resend it
19:19 * wizzyrea is grown, she can take it
19:19 rangi morning JesseM
19:20 in the log should be a link to the koha team in chorewars
19:20 wizzyrea ^^ is super funny
19:20 and fun :P
19:20 rangi if you join you can get some xp
19:20 for ur signoff
19:21 cait ... and she took xp for it :P
19:21 wizzyrea hey I resent it with the signoff!
19:21 cait i told her and now I am the only one with no xp
19:21 hmpf
19:21 wizzyrea and I attached the thing to the bug!
19:21 Brooke better get to killin' some pigs.
19:21 rangi heh
19:22 ok time for the bus
19:22 wizzyrea gl
19:26 Brooke may you not get the nosy lady again
19:32 d'oh, Socks has begun an early, vicious campaign for kitty feeding time.
19:35 rhcl Hold out! Stand Firm! No Kibbles and Bits until its time.
19:36 cait rhcl is right, it will only get worse if you give in
19:36 Brooke <---- is a sucker
19:36 she knows it, too.
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19:48 Brooke I'm grateful there is no statute about taking terrible WoW screenshots
19:48 wizzyrea this doesn't have to do with a dancing bear does it?
19:49 Brooke hehe not this time
19:59 0/
20:02 rangi back
20:03 cait: very cool about the opensource for the whole province!
20:03 cait it's only a vague promise
20:03 but still nice :)
20:03 rangi its a good signal
20:03 cait yes
20:03 :)
20:06 hm
20:06 question about the pager - should it work when I enter something like 3/33?
20:06 rangi don't know
20:07 oleonard cait the js table pager?
20:07 cait yes
20:07 looking at your patch
20:07 but it doesn#t work before and after applying it
20:07 was only wondering while testing
20:07 it's an input field
20:07 so I should be able to write something in there, right?
20:08 oleonard I don't think so. I think it's for display only.
20:08 cait but why make it able to edit then?
20:08 I can write something in there, but when I save it always jumps back to the beginning
20:09 oleonard I never really thought about it that way, but you're right it is deceptive.
20:09 http://tablesorter.com/docs/example-pager.html
20:09 You can see that the demo for the plugin is the same way.
20:10 cait will you change the styling too?
20:11 oleonard I could certainly make that input look less inputable in my follow-up.
20:11 cait :)
20:12 I am also not sure we need the page(s)... but that might just be me
20:12 wahanui okay, cait.
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20:12 oleonard cait?
20:12 cait ?
20:12 wahanui well, cait is kf or a programmer or really sweet or a source of great chocolate or the purveyor of an infinite supply of virtual cookies or not sure we need the page(s)... but that might just be me
20:12 cait hmpf
20:12 lol
20:13 Iam going through the pages now and will note theinput thing on th ebug later
20:13 :)
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20:20 rangi wow that patch from peter lorimer
20:20 wizzyrea whoa
20:22 cait whoa
20:22 I looked at the beginning of the patch, I think there is one line where he removed the placeholder?
20:22 in an sql statement
20:22 rangi it does that lots
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20:23 cait -        WHERE aqbasket.booksellerid = ? and datereceived IS NOT NULL
20:23 +        WHERE aqbasket.booksellerid = $bookseller and datereceived IS NOT NULL
20:23 rangi i think he has rebased a really old version of koha onto master ... really really old, or not koha onto koha
20:23 cait oh
20:23 rangi either way, its not usable
20:23 wizzyrea oy
20:24 rangi first patch though, so how to say that diplomatically
20:24 lemme try
20:24 cait koha on the new laptop is so fast... I almost feel like supergirl moving around in it :)
20:25 * oleonard clears out
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20:25 * wizzyrea imagines Cait as supergirl
20:25 giggles
20:25 * cait giggles too
20:25 cait hope that suit is elastic
20:26 wizzyrea ok that is NOT why I was giggling, I was imagining you with a cape (NO CAPES!) and flying about like superman
20:26 cait no capes?
20:26 wizzyrea but super (wo)man
20:26 it's from the pixar flick the incredibles
20:26 cait oh
20:27 I have seen that
20:27 wizzyrea edna mode won't design superhero suits with capes, because it's harmed too many supers. ;)
20:27 spoiler alert?
20:27 nah.
20:27 cait makes sense :)
20:29 rangi its from pre february
20:29 cait the koha version?
20:29 wahanui somebody said the koha version was 2.2.0 and ubuntu 10.10
20:29 cait wahanui: forget koha version
20:29 wahanui cait: I forgot koha version
20:29 wizzyrea wahanui, forget the koha version
20:29 wahanui wizzyrea, I didn't have anything matching koha version
20:29 wizzyrea koha version is <reply>
20:29 koha version?
20:29 there we go
20:30 rangi yep, pre Sun Feb 27 15:24:53 2011 +0100 at least
20:30 cait hm, I could say jinx now right? but I forgot how to undo it... so better keep quiet
20:33 rangi right hope that doesnt scare him off
20:35 ibeardslee rangi: got that nzcs presentation later today .. any final words you need to say about the academy?
20:36 rangi hmmm, cant think of anything
20:37 ibeardslee can you just quickly name drop a couple of libraries that would be considered big coups for Koha?
20:37 s/would/were/
20:38 rangi hmm, wizzyrea  .. cait .. help?
20:38 cait hm?
20:38 * cait reads back
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20:38 rangi ibeardslee: in nz .. treasury and state services are a bit of a coup
20:38 cait coups?
20:38 hm.
20:38 wizzyrea oh
20:38 well
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20:38 wizzyrea any library that dumped sirsi-dynix to use koha would be a coup in my mind
20:39 especially if they're happy
20:39 cait I normally list examples of different libary types and sizes
20:39 not sure about coups
20:39 ibeardslee what is the biggest library using it?
20:39 rangi national archives in the UK, the rijkmuseum in the Netherlands
20:39 cait masscat, nekls, delhi public library, becker medical library, albany high school
20:39 those I had in the last presentation
20:39 rangi national library of venezuala
20:39 cait rangi is better at that :)
20:39 rangi they whole of the philipines
20:39 wizzyrea the university of lyon
20:39 rangi kerala state, and west bengal in india
20:39 cait yes
20:39 rangi oh yeah
20:40 cait delhi too
20:40 rangi and ecole des mines
20:40 ibeardslee .. but not the national library of NZ :(
20:40 rangi not yet
20:40 :)
20:40 cait hfjs :P
20:41 rangi WIPO
20:41 UNIDO
20:41 and UNFAO
20:41 3 UN organisations using it
20:41 wizzyrea Disney
20:41 huginn` New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5131] XSS vulnerability in the OPAC search results interface <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5131>
20:41 wizzyrea oh maybe peter was from disney?
20:41 rangi wizzyrea: are they actually live?
20:41 wizzyrea hmm good pt
20:41 rangi .ie ?
20:42 wizzyrea i'm not sure we'd know
20:42 it's probably not public
20:42 rangi oslo.ie .. looks like ireland to me
20:42 wizzyrea but best to leave it off if unsure :/
20:43 rangi oh the norwegian naval academy :)
20:43 magnuse huh?
20:43 cait oh yes
20:43 hi magnuse :)
20:43 rangi talking about interesting libraries using koha
20:43 magnuse hiya
20:43 ah... ;-)
20:43 cait magnuse: chore wars! get an account :)
20:44 magnuse got it!
20:44 cait hey, now we all get xp for helping on irc, right? :P
20:44 magnuse need an invite for koha, i think?
20:44 cait I will pm you the link sec
20:44 ah, it's in the logs already
20:44 wizzyrea zang!
20:44 * wizzyrea goes to get xp
20:44 magnuse ok, i thought they were individual
20:45 i'm in!
20:45 cait ok
20:45 you look evil
20:45 * wizzyrea is highly amused by koha chore wars
20:46 cait they have one problem though - lots of male picures, not so many femals
20:46 wizzyrea I wonder how you get your class
20:46 did I pick that?
20:46 rangi when you choose what you are good at
20:46 wizzyrea oh, based on the things I'm good at maybe?
20:46 rangi yes
20:46 wizzyrea aha
20:46 so uh
20:46 what are peasants good at :P
20:47 rangi i chose nothing
20:47 wizzyrea oooo
20:47 * magnuse too
20:47 * wizzyrea chose stuff
20:47 cait I chose nothing too
20:48 perhaps with level ups?
20:48 no gold for me
20:48 *sniffs*
20:49 * wizzyrea feels funny having a higher wis than chrisc
20:49 wizzyrea that just aint right.
20:49 jenkins_koha Starting build 337 for job Koha_master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #335 2 j 17 h ago)
20:49 cait right, give it back! ;)
20:49 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6632 [Signed Off] add html filter to prevent XSS <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]bdcd0dd168ae2e08b>
20:49 wizzyrea i can't!
20:50 see that's why you pick stuff that you're good at :P so you can get wis and int bonuses!
20:50 * magnuse is off ro watch a movie...
20:54 cait hehe
20:54 I think I had no luck so far
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20:54 cait will have to work on that... trying to send a patch now!
20:54 phlunk3 lo all
20:54 is the administrative part of koha limited to access only on the intranet maybe? :S
20:55 wizzyrea phlunk3: that really depends on how your network is set up
20:55 phlunk3 okay but a default install from package wouldnt cause that to be so?
20:55 wizzyrea for example, if you are behind a firewall, you may not be able to get to your koha server from the public internet
20:55 correct
20:55 phlunk3 I have had an issue since install that I cant actually access the admin end, but the frontend works fine. so thought that could be the issue.
20:56 wizzyrea mm that is more likely an apache configuration issue
20:56 cait you get a timeout trying to access intranet?
20:56 phlunk3 yeah I believe so wizzy.
20:56 ahh no
20:57 I curled it from the server haha
20:57 works fine ;)
20:57 tx
20:58 must be somewhere configured by the package installer I guess, does anyone know how to open this up to the public internet?
20:58 wizzyrea is the url :8080?
20:59 mtj phlunk3: ask your network admin
20:59 wizzyrea or that
20:59 phlunk3 nm, not true at all lol. someone had edited a file to make it work but it was the wrong way.
21:03 mtj man, i always manage to bust my git repo, somehow
21:03 i've got this magic touch
21:06 * cait hands mtj a cookie
21:07 mtj ooooh
21:07 phlunk3 got it thx :) was a port set in the site itself sitting in sites-enabled
21:08 cait i got 4 gold!
21:09 wizzyrea :D
21:09 oh hey I get another "helped someone on IRC"
21:09 er
21:09 nah
21:09 ;)
21:09 cait hehe
21:10 this is too much fun almost
21:14 talljoy marc import question.....When uploading Marc records into Koha, it is required to have a 942$c field?
21:15 cait I think it will preselect when you add items and the framework might complain when people try saving it without it being set
21:16 talljoy so better to set it than to leave it out....yes?
21:16 cait I would say yes
21:16 wizzy?
21:17 * talljoy thinks wizzyrea is hiding....
21:18 wizzyrea well that really depends on if you have bib level or item level itemtypes
21:18 talljoy oh.
21:18 um.
21:19 rangi id set them
21:19 it will save pain
21:19 wizzyrea ^^ do what he says
21:19 talljoy better to set than not, right?
21:19 cait yep :)
21:19 rangi yes
21:19 http://www.chorewars.com/badges/ranginui2.200.png
21:19 cait we have item level itypes, but as rangi said - less pain
21:19 wizzyrea ROFL
21:19 rangi++
21:19 talljoy lol
21:20 cait rangi++
21:20 talljoy i'm off to marcedit.
21:20 thanks all!
21:20 cait talljoy: do you fell helped?
21:20 feel...
21:20 talljoy i always feel helped by you all.
21:20 * talljoy tips her hat
21:20 * cait goes to get xp
21:20 cait ;)
21:20 have fun with marcedit :)
21:21 talljoy thanks.  not my favorite tool....
21:21 but effective.
21:21 rangi im wearing that as my badge for the next conference
21:21 wizzyrea rangi++
21:21 cait I want one too :)
21:21 wizzyrea and chris gets to turn in another quest for helping someone in IRC
21:21 cait rangi++
21:22 rangi http://www.chorewars.com/link.php
21:22 you need to make your character public though
21:22 cait http://www.chorewars.com/badges/kfischer83.png
21:22 it claimed that cait and kfischer were already taken...
21:23 wizzyrea http://www.chorewars.com/badges/wizzyrea.png
21:23 * cait doesn't believe that really
21:28 cait wizzyrea: you are a sorcerer now!
21:28 wizzyrea it's cuz i picked stuff I was good at :P
21:29 cait how?
21:29 wizzyrea when I signed up
21:29 it doesn't look like you can change it after the fact :/
21:30 cait oh
21:30 ok
21:30 9gp rangi? honestly??
21:30 that's like a ton of cookies
21:30 rangi hehe
21:30 wizzyrea oh is that what gold gets us?
21:31 * wizzyrea was wondering
21:31 cait you can buy somehting just for the fun of it
21:31 I spend 1gp on cookies... rangi 9
21:31 cookie addict! :)
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21:32 cait hi Space_Librarian:)
21:32 Space_Librarian hey cait!
21:32 * Space_Librarian hands cait a scone with jame and cream
21:32 Space_Librarian jam*
21:32 rangi Space_Librarian made us scones
21:32 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #337: STILL UNSTABLE in 43 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/337/
21:32 semarie-koha: Bug 6632 [Signed Off] add html filter to prevent XSS
21:32 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6632 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , [security] XXS on list name (on admin part)
21:32 cait ooh thx!
21:38 * talljoy is so hungry and the purser is napping.... lousy service here.  lol
21:40 cait hard due date compare -1?
21:40 oh
21:40 sorry
21:40 rangi http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztEcNc1mctE
21:43 getting me in the mood for my presentation today ;-)
21:46 cait you will do great :)
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22:28 cait bye all
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22:37 Brooke kia ora
22:41 Space_Librarian tena koe
22:48 Brooke :)
22:49 Kei te pehea koe?
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22:58 Brooke Irms:)
22:58 how's the West Island?
23:01 eythian it's like that.
23:01 * Brooke grunts.
23:01 Space_Librarian lol
23:02 * Brooke will surely be stoned in India should this preso be accepted.
23:03 Brooke on the other hand, if it is not, I am too far away to slap.
23:04 rangi whats the topic?
23:04 wahanui i think the topic is wrong. :)
23:04 Brooke botsnack wahanui sultana cake
23:05 wahanui botsnack sultana cake
23:05 wahanui thanks Brooke :)
23:05 Brooke it's uh UI + Gaming.
23:11 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: [SIGNED-OFF} Fix for Bug 6623 - Nicer style for "clear screen" button <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]7e69cc1f85c91d327> / Bug 6547: Add id attributes to messages in opac-reserve.tt <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]9c04b930ea74656c5>
23:14 eythian I wonder if it's deliberate that huginn` uses mismatched brackets.
23:15 Brooke he's cruisin' for a bot spankin'
23:16 eythian wahanui: botsmack is <reply>:(
23:16 wahanui OK, eythian.
23:16 eythian botsmack?
23:16 wahanui :(
23:16 Brooke heh
23:16 eythian++
23:17 apparently I *have* to use gimp for this. razzin' frazzin'.
23:17 ah well, nearly time for fencing anyhow
23:17 ibeardslee out on the farm eh? ;)
23:18 eythian gimp is pretty easy to use.
23:18 Brooke for some reason
23:18 it doesn't like booting on this user
23:18 but it'll boot fine on mah work user
23:18 I prolly just need to redownload it on this user
23:18 eythian zap ~/.gimp I expect
23:18 oh, are you on some legacy OS?
23:19 jenkins_koha Starting build 338 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #335 2 j 19 h ago)
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23:23 Brooke 0/
23:23 druthb Hi.
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23:23 Brooke \0
23:25 I really dig this slide backgroun
23:25 d
23:25 it makes anything look good
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23:29 ibeardslee something went boom?
23:30 Brooke I might have tripped over the Interwebs cord again
23:30 * Brooke is ever so clumsy.
23:30 talljoy marc question....(again).  Can I have multiple 856 fields when importing ebook records?
23:30 Brooke yes
23:30 eythian ibeardslee: yeah. Some things are coming back online, other things are still down
23:30 talljoy Brooke: yes you tripped, or yes multiple 856 is okay?
23:31 Brooke http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd856.html
23:31 the R is for repeatable, alas, not retarded.
23:32 eythian it's both
23:32 Brooke enyhoo
23:32 fencing
23:34 jenkins_koha Starting build 21 for job Koha_3.4.x (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #18 2 j 11 h ago)
23:34 mtj nengard: xpath query with mysql ?
23:35 re: your email...

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