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| 01:01 | phlunk3 | lo, was here the other day and rangi suggested I try a package install on ubuntu, can anyone point me to where the packages to do this can be found? I might suck at using the koha site :P |
| 01:04 | chilts | phlunk3: maybe here -> http://debian.koha-community.org/ |
| 01:33 | pastebot | "Phlunk3" at 202.49.168.172 pasted "Installation issue." (7 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/936 |
| 01:33 | phlunk3 | ^^ anyone knows what my issue might be? |
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| 01:46 | eythian | phlunk3: I assume that's not attempting a package install? |
| 01:46 | but basically, it means you don't have the zoom packages. | |
| 01:46 | libnet-z3950-perl on Debian, I think. | |
| 01:47 | phlunk3 | tx eythian |
| 01:48 | Can't locate XML/Simple.pm in <-- any idea what is needed for this? | |
| 01:48 | eythian | libxml-simple-perl most likely |
| 01:48 | I wonder where we're using that, we shouldn't be. | |
| 01:51 | huh, all over the place apparently. | |
| 01:51 | That's not a good thing. | |
| 01:52 | actually, a lot of the places where it's "use"d don't actually appear to do anything with it. | |
| 01:52 | phlunk3 | lol |
| 01:52 | eythian | maybe one day when I'm bored, I'll make a start on removing it, it's not a good module. |
| 01:55 | pastebot | "phlunk3" at 203.89.166.247 pasted "Do I need to install all these perl items?" (59 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/937 |
| 01:57 | eythian | yes. |
| 01:57 | this is why the packages are good, they do all that for you. | |
| 02:00 | also, some of those dependencies don't have debian packages (although most do.) You can either install them from cpan, or use the packages that are in the debian.koha-community.org repo. | |
| 02:00 | Or use dh-make-perl to make your own. | |
| 02:02 | phlunk3 | yeah I wasnt too sure how to use ur debian packages on ubuntu, I am just learning about the whole package installation thing since starting at this job haha, my last employer had lots of server admins who would slap me for trying to install things ;) |
| 02:02 | eythian | ah right :) |
| 02:02 | phlunk3 | whats dh-make-perl used for? |
| 02:02 | eythian | the packages should work on Ubuntu much the same as on Debian |
| 02:03 | there is one possible bug that might happen though, the fix for which was only sent in a couple of days ago, so hasn't gone in yet. | |
| 02:03 | dh-make-perl lets you take a CPAN Perl module and make a .deb file out of it. | |
| 02:11 | pastebot | "phlunk3" at 203.89.166.247 pasted "more install problems" (17 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/938 |
| 02:11 | phlunk3 | any idea on this? is an attempt using the package installer |
| 02:12 | eythian | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ze#Other_packages <-- phlunk3 |
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| 02:12 | Brooke | kia ora |
| 02:13 | phlunk3 | tx eyth |
| 02:13 | eythian | np |
| 02:13 | hi Brooke | |
| 02:13 | Brooke | :) |
| 02:52 | huginn` | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6626] Packages require sudo to work, but it's not a dependency. <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6626> |
| 03:04 | phlunk3 | okay I am being asked if I want marc21 or unimarc, so I guess I need to go and look at the old server and see what was used there, does anyone know where I can see that info? |
| 03:05 | eythian | phlunk3: where are you? |
| 03:06 | (marc21 is used in most places, but some use unimarc) | |
| 03:06 | phlunk3 | Tauranga, if you mean which city ;) |
| 03:06 | eythian | oh right. |
| 03:06 | then you want marc21 | |
| 03:06 | you coming to the conference tomorrow? | |
| 03:06 | phlunk3 | thanks eyth |
| 03:06 | no, I saw there was some usergroup meeting mentioned here a few days ago but havent really used the system so far. | |
| 03:06 | where is the meeting? | |
| 03:06 | eythian | http://kete.library.org.nz/sit[…]ers-group-meeting <-- phlunk3 |
| 03:07 | might be a bit too far to go on short notice though. | |
| 03:08 | especially with half the central NI being snowed out | |
| 03:09 | phlunk3 | yeah definitely, I dont even have a license yet so can't be driving places anyway haha |
| 03:09 | eythian | that'll be a problem too, yeah |
| 03:11 | phlunk3 | Im on a page where I choose data sources? page is called "MARC Frameworks: MARC21" would u suggest using/not using any of the optional sources? |
| 03:12 | eythian | I'd put some in. |
| 03:12 | phlunk3 | can they be enabled/disabled later? |
| 03:12 | eythian | They can be edited later. |
| 03:13 | I'd put most of it except the sample data itself. | |
| 03:13 | Unfortunately, it's the kind of thing that just requires a bit of practice to work out. | |
| 03:14 | phlunk3 | thx m8, all done with the install, now to just figure out how to move data from an older version to this one :S |
| 03:15 | eythian | cool :) |
| 03:15 | is the old one Koha, if so, what version? | |
| 03:16 | phlunk3 | 3.0.05 |
| 03:16 | sorry he says thats wrong ;) | |
| 03:16 | moment Ill check | |
| 03:16 | 3.00.05.003 is the older version | |
| 03:17 | eythian | oh, that's easy then. Just move the database contents over and it should work |
| 03:17 | gtg | |
| 03:17 | phlunk3 | yay thx heaps eyth |
| 03:46 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for Bug 6622 - Remove closing style tag from staff-global.css <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a60cd5fadb5cf1042> |
| 03:49 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 335 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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| 04:33 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #335: SUCCESS in 44 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/335/ |
| 04:33 | oleonard: Fix for Bug 6622 - Remove closing style tag from staff-global.css | |
| 04:33 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6622 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Remove closing style tag from staff-global.css |
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| 04:55 | barves | can anyone tell me how to delete items without any barcodes |
| 04:56 | does koha support delete items by recordnumber which koha geneate automatically | |
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| 06:16 | cait | hi #koha |
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| 06:34 | francharb | hello all |
| 06:37 | cait | hi francharb |
| 06:37 | francharb | hi cait! |
| 06:37 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 06:37 | huginn` | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 11.7°C (8:35 AM CEST on July 25, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012.1 hPa (Steady). |
| 06:39 | barves | can some one help me to delete items without any barcodes. does koha support to delete items by record number |
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| 06:47 | reiveune | hello |
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| 06:50 | julian | hello |
| 06:50 | wahanui | hi, julian |
| 06:51 | julian | hi wahanui |
| 06:51 | wahanui | hello, julian |
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| 06:58 | marcelr | hello koha |
| 06:59 | lds | hello koha |
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| 07:08 | rangi | @wunder wellington nz |
| 07:08 | huginn` | rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 7.0°C (6:00 PM NZST on July 25, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Rising). |
| 07:08 | Judit joined #koha | |
| 07:10 | rangi | see a movie Judit ? |
| 07:10 | Judit | :) |
| 07:11 | yes | |
| 07:11 | and the sin was hinning all afternoon | |
| 07:11 | typical | |
| 07:11 | sun | |
| 07:11 | rangi | heh |
| 07:11 | Judit | shine |
| 07:12 | the embassy was really really nice | |
| 07:12 | rangi | yes it is a great place to watch a movie |
| 07:13 | especially as you can take a beer to your seat :) | |
| 07:13 | Judit | the movie was kinda boring but cool 3d |
| 07:13 | the first movie i think where it worth making it in 3d | |
| 07:14 | paul_p | hello #koha |
| 07:14 | rangi | what did u see? |
| 07:14 | hi paul_p | |
| 07:14 | Judit | Hp |
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| 07:18 | rangi | brb reading stories |
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| 07:18 | clrh | hello |
| 07:18 | wahanui | que tal, clrh |
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| 07:35 | paul_p | if you want to smile : http://www.geeksaresexy.net/20[…]atricles-cartoon/ ! |
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| 08:02 | rangi | 50 ppl for tomorrow now :) |
| 08:11 | sijobl | hiya chris |
| 08:12 | 50 ppl for what? | |
| 08:12 | rangi | koha user group thingymajingy in levin |
| 08:13 | sijobl | woo, cool |
| 08:13 | rangi | got some from all over the north island, some from the south island, and even a a couple from the west island |
| 08:14 | sijobl | excellent |
| 08:14 | that's a good turnout | |
| 08:14 | at the library? | |
| 08:14 | * sijobl | wonders where there's a 50 person room in levin |
| 08:14 | rangi | council buildings |
| 08:14 | sijobl | other than the council or marae |
| 08:14 | or schools | |
| 08:14 | rangi | yup :) |
| 08:14 | we have the council chambers for the day | |
| 08:23 | sijobl | it's not as though they were using them for anything useful... |
| 08:24 | rangi | :) |
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| 08:33 | * paul_p | ignored there was a west island in NZ (is it Australia ? do you consider Australia as an NZ west island ? -kidding, but the question is real- ;-) ) |
| 08:34 | rangi | its our nickname for australia |
| 08:38 | paul_p | thx rangi. I travelled to the north island, discovered there was also a south island, and tiny east island. I was afraid to have missed a west island ;-) |
| 08:38 | rangi | :) |
| 08:39 | theres a lot of small inhabited islands around nz, and even more uninhabited ones | |
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| 08:54 | huginn` | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5725] Batch modifications for Biblios <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5725> |
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| 08:59 | kf | hi #koha |
| 08:59 | rangi | hi kf |
| 09:00 | kf | hi rangi |
| 09:00 | how did your trainign go? | |
| 09:00 | rangi | good |
| 09:00 | fast learners | |
| 09:00 | kf | :) |
| 09:01 | barves | can we get help. i want to delete items without barcodes hw to do that does koha support deleting items by record number |
| 09:01 | kf | I think you can't use record number for the batch delete functions at the moment |
| 09:02 | no | |
| 09:02 | I am wrong | |
| 09:02 | you can | |
| 09:02 | you can delete using the item number | |
| 09:03 | check tools > batch item deletion | |
| 09:03 | and you can create a lit of item numbers using the reports tool | |
| 09:04 | barves | ok tx let me check |
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| 09:54 | rangi | @wunder wellington nz |
| 09:54 | huginn` | rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 7.0°C (9:00 PM NZST on July 25, 2011). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Rising). |
| 09:54 | rangi | i dont believe that |
| 09:54 | kf | colder? |
| 09:54 | @wunder Konstanz | |
| 09:54 | huginn` | kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 16.9°C (11:50 AM CEST on July 25, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011.1 hPa (Steady). |
| 09:54 | kf | not anormal summer day here too |
| 09:55 | rangi | http://www.metservice.com/towns-cities/wellington |
| 09:55 | 5.3, feels like 0 | |
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| 10:17 | Brooke | kia ora |
| 10:48 | kf | hi Brooke |
| 10:48 | Brooke | 0/ |
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| 10:48 | Brooke | I see you sneaky. |
| 10:48 | druthb | o/ |
| 10:48 | * Brooke | taps her foot at druthb. |
| 10:48 | druthb | wha'? |
| 10:49 | Brooke | this better be a social call, little miss. |
| 10:49 | * kf | imagines Brooke as nurse |
| 10:49 | druthb | since talljoy is not yet here, then yes, it is. |
| 10:49 | Brooke | yeah you don't want to do that |
| 10:50 | because it'll prolly involve thinking about me like I'm my stupid sister. | |
| 10:50 | it's early where Joy is, init? | |
| 10:50 | druthb | not yet 0600, yes |
| 10:52 | Brooke | so uh |
| 10:52 | your daughter is prolly right. | |
| 10:52 | * Brooke | might be a mite *too* heat tolerant. |
| 10:52 | druthb | besides, she and I talked yesterday and set a date mid-week to chat and solve the issue she needs mah help on. |
| 10:52 | * Brooke | nods. |
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| 11:01 | Brooke | 0/ |
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| 11:17 | Brooke | 0/ |
| 11:23 | huginn` | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6094] Fixing ModAuthority problems <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6094> |
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| 11:36 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 18 for job Koha_3.4.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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| 12:06 | * druthb | waves to oleonard |
| 12:06 | oleonard | Hi everyone |
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| 12:08 | kf | morning oleonard |
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| 12:17 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.4.x build #18: SUCCESS in 40 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.4.x/18/ |
| 12:17 | f.demians: 3.4.3 translation update | |
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| 13:47 | kf | magnuse## |
| 13:47 | magnuse++ even | |
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| 13:48 | libsysguy | morning #Koha |
| 13:50 | kf | hi libsysguy |
| 13:50 | and bye :) | |
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| 14:15 | wizzyrea | good morning |
| 14:15 | oleonard | Hi wizzyrea |
| 14:15 | libsysguy | morning wizzyrea |
| 14:16 | wizzyrea | how is everyone's monday so far |
| 14:16 | libsysguy | very monday like |
| 14:16 | wizzyrea | :/ |
| 14:17 | libsysguy | indeed |
| 14:17 | we have 21 days till launch :D | |
| 14:18 | wizzyrea | a lot to get done in that time? |
| 14:18 | libsysguy | yeah, patron data is my next big thing to move (apparently we just can't forgive everybody's fines) |
| 14:19 | wizzyrea | hmm |
| 14:19 | libsysguy | druthb has some cool scripts to help that I'll be using |
| 14:19 | wizzyrea | fine amnesty is a great way to bring back patrons and increase patron loyalty. |
| 14:19 | libsysguy | its just a matter of me not being lazy and doing it :-\ |
| 14:19 | wizzyrea | ah |
| 14:20 | oleonard | Fine amnesty? wizzyrea sounds like one of those liberal hippie types |
| 14:20 | rhcl | Honey, I'm home |
| 14:21 | libsysguy | meh a nickel here a dime there...im sure it add up lol |
| 14:21 | * wizzyrea | thinks that fines are a great way to get patrons to hate the library, and thus not support it when it goes to the ballots for, say, an expansion. |
| 14:21 | libsysguy | i think a lot of it is just making sure we get our books back |
| 14:22 | rhcl | We don't charge fines. |
| 14:22 | wizzyrea | we have libraries that consider loss a cost of doing business. :P |
| 14:22 | * wizzyrea | will stop with the anti-fine rhetoric, for now |
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| 14:22 | wizzyrea | rhcl++ ;) |
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| 14:23 | rhcl | Somebody here said one time that we used to charge fines, but then stopped and we actually got better returns than before (albeit slower) |
| 14:23 | druthb | o/ |
| 14:23 | wizzyrea | (yea yea, I know, your library budget wouldn't survive without the fines) |
| 14:23 | yay druthb! | |
| 14:23 | \p | |
| 14:23 | erm | |
| 14:23 | \o | |
| 14:23 | druthb | lol |
| 14:23 | oleonard | We don't charge fines either. And we all wear sandals with socks. |
| 14:23 | wizzyrea | hippies! |
| 14:23 | libsysguy | UNIX programmers... |
| 14:24 | druthb | i migrated a library a while back that had no reference collection. Everything they *own* circulates to any patron, two weeks, no fine. |
| 14:24 | easy_circ_maps++ | |
| 14:24 | * wizzyrea | wonders if oleonard has gotten out his pocket protector |
| 14:25 | rhcl | Linux is soo coool. I'm running two VMs inside my OpenSuse desktop, and trying to convince myself I need to have another one with some version of RH running "just because" |
| 14:26 | sekjal | article I'd love to see: a detailed comparison of installing Koha 3.4 on a wide range of Linux distributions and versions. |
| 14:26 | oleonard | No pocket protector wizzyrea, but I'm seriously considering elbow-patches for my blazer |
| 14:26 | wizzyrea | that would be super dapper. |
| 14:27 | rhcl | apt-get install koha is PDC |
| 14:27 | yum install koha would be great toooo | |
| 14:27 | or do I mean zypper? | |
| 14:29 | druthb | sekjal: here's the RHEL entry: "Don't even *think* about it." |
| 14:29 | libsysguy | speaking of cool stuff is anybody using cacti |
| 14:30 | *on their koha server* | |
| 14:30 | sekjal | druthb: yeah, that was awful. |
| 14:30 | rhcl | I did my MAS (master's) with a guy that was a real fan of cacti |
| 14:31 | sekjal | libsysguy: haven't tried it yet, no |
| 14:31 | libsysguy | yeah i really like it too |
| 14:31 | i used it a lot at my old job | |
| 14:31 | * oleonard | assumes it is not because they don't need to be watered often |
| 14:31 | libsysguy | but i just used it and never had to install it |
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| 14:38 | rhcl | heya munin, gimme bug 5429 |
| 14:38 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5429 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, ASSIGNED , Enable Koha to fetch book covers from openlibrary |
| 14:39 | rhcl | Isn't the patch for this something of relative importance? |
| 14:39 | oleonard | What do you mean rhcl ? |
| 14:40 | rhcl | Ah, like, isn't getting more book covers a Good Thing? (excuse what I perceive to be self-evident) |
| 14:41 | oleonard | Yeah, I'd say so. Why? |
| 14:41 | * wizzyrea | is reminded that only one works at a time. |
| 14:41 | oleonard | We still need cascading book-cover fallback handling. |
| 14:41 | wizzyrea | ^^ |
| 14:41 | rhcl | Oh, I guess it's just me, but this particular item on the kohadev list struck me as being more interesting than some |
| 14:42 | druthb | oleonard++ |
| 14:42 | oleonard | Nothing to plus me about. I'm just flappin' my gums. |
| 14:43 | rhcl | so, how hard would it be to code cascading book covers do you suppose? |
| 14:43 | * druthb | notices that when oleonard's gums flap, Good Ideas N Stuff come out. |
| 14:44 | druthb | 'sides, I'll plus you just for being oleonard. |
| 14:44 | wizzyrea | speaking of cascading book covers, is there even a bug in for that? |
| 14:44 | oleonard | You can plus me for Bug 5433, I'm quite happy with that one |
| 14:44 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5433 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Separate state field for cities |
| 14:45 | wizzyrea | ah bug 2131 |
| 14:45 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2131 enhancement, P5, ---, paul.poulain, NEW , Enhanced Content - Multiple Choices |
| 14:45 | rhcl | OK, but for cascading book covers, you'd want it to be a generic puller--not hard code just amazon or OBC, right. You'd want to be able to define any number of sources |
| 14:46 | druthb | oleonard++ |
| 14:46 | rhcl | oleonard++ |
| 14:47 | I'll bet we could find some participative coin in our pocket for cascading book covers... | |
| 14:53 | oleonard | The incomplete work from 2009: http://lists.koha-community.or[…]ruary/008273.html |
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| 14:56 | Oak | hello #koha |
| 14:56 | heya druthb | |
| 14:56 | druthb | hi, Oak. |
| 14:56 | Oak | :) |
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| 15:00 | talljoy | druthb: o/ |
| 15:00 | druthb | hi, talljoy! :D |
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| 15:05 | rhcl | hi Oak |
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| 15:15 | Oak | Hello ketchup |
| 15:15 | how are you today? | |
| 15:17 | mustard | who's ketchup? |
| 15:18 | Oak | hehe |
| 15:18 | you is ketchup my friend, you! | |
| 15:19 | guacamole | :P |
| 15:20 | Agent_Dani | I miss guacamole! ;) |
| 15:20 | mustard | we need a score card around here to keep track of all the players |
| 15:20 | rhcl | when I'm at work I'm always rhcl |
| 15:20 | most always | |
| 15:21 | Oak | hmm. :) |
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| 16:16 | reiveune | bye |
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| 16:33 | * druthb | heads out for a bit...company has arrived! |
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| 16:56 | cait | hi all |
| 16:56 | rhcl | hi cait |
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| 17:26 | rhcl | looks like the 'net dropped a link somewhere |
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| 17:48 | wizzyrea | libsysguy1: http://www.nypl.org/readdown |
| 17:48 | oh bother he's gone | |
| 18:14 | cait | hi liz :) |
| 18:14 | wizzyrea | hi cait :) |
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| 19:30 | wizzyrea | what's the syspref for javascript autocomplete of patron names |
| 19:30 | * wizzyrea | is having a brain fart. |
| 19:31 | * talljoy | holds nose |
| 19:33 | sekjal | circautocomplete ? |
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| 19:42 | cait | hi magnuse :) |
| 19:43 | magnuse | guten abend cait |
| 19:43 | ...and #koha | |
| 19:43 | wizzyrea | close sekjal: circautocompl |
| 19:43 | sekjal | :) |
| 19:43 | wizzyrea | ty :) |
| 19:44 | cait | magnus: can you fly over and kill this really big spider in my bathroom? |
| 19:44 | * wizzyrea | suggests the cup and index card method of spider removal |
| 19:44 | jcamins_away | cait: is it a roach-eating spider? |
| 19:44 | magnuse | nah, but i might try and move it outside... |
| 19:45 | cait | that's ok |
| 19:45 | I tried to catch it... but it ran away | |
| 19:45 | not sure I want to know where it is now | |
| 19:45 | jcamins_away: not sure, it's big enough to catch the smaller onces | |
| 19:45 | ones | |
| 19:48 | magnuse | it will probably do more good than harm... |
| 19:48 | cait | hmpf |
| 19:49 | I have quite a high spider tolerance | |
| 19:49 | but this is too big to live in my bathroom | |
| 19:50 | magnuse | heh |
| 19:50 | wizzyrea | checkins -> old_issues? |
| 19:51 | * magnuse | thinks so |
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| 20:07 | magnuse | eythian_: quick q if you have the time: should the "translate install xx-YY" command go in debian/rules, or can i assume that has been done before debian/rules is run? |
| 20:07 | eythian_ | I think that it should go into debian/rules. |
| 20:08 | So that it's automatically made as part of the package build process. | |
| 20:08 | magnuse | ok |
| 20:09 | i'll be testing with norwegian, but would that mean eventually everyone will have to build packages for all the languages, when they build packages? | |
| 20:09 | or is there some way to say what packages/languages should be built? | |
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| 20:25 | eythian_ | Start with Norwegian, we'll see how that works out, and go from there. |
| 20:25 | I think that we should be building them as part of the package building process. | |
| 20:28 | magnuse | ok, i'll see how far i get and worry about the rest of the world later ;-) |
| 20:29 | cait | if you write down how you do it... I can try with German next :) |
| 20:30 | eythian_ | yeah, well, once it's been done once, all the rest should be pretty easy |
| 20:31 | magnuse | fingers crossed ;-) |
| 20:46 | bg | @wunder 93109 |
| 20:46 | huginn` | bg: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 24.3°C (1:45 PM PDT on July 25, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.91 in 1012.8 hPa (Steady). |
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| 20:48 | phlunk3 | lo, I am trying to move data from 3.00.05.003 to the current stable version, can someone suggest the best method for this? I have tried with a straight sql dump but am getting errors due to key constraints on import so guessing its wrong ;) |
| 20:52 | cait | a dump should work I think |
| 20:52 | eythian_ | A dump works, how are you making the dump and loading it back in? |
| 20:52 | cait | hi robin |
| 20:52 | thx :) | |
| 20:52 | * eythian_ | is in a car heading to Levin. |
| 20:53 | magnuse | eythian_: say hi to jo and all the other cool koha librarians of nz from us! ;-) |
| 20:54 | eythian_ | sitting beside Judit, that's quite a challenge. |
| 20:54 | fdn | |
| 20:54 | see | |
| 20:54 | cait | what magnuse said :) |
| 20:54 | did she hit you? | |
| 20:56 | libsysguy | ca i apply patches from bugzilla |
| 20:56 | can* | |
| 20:56 | wizzyrea | you have gitbz? |
| 20:56 | gitbz? | |
| 20:56 | libsysguy | umm in theory yes |
| 20:56 | but its not working like it should | |
| 20:57 | wizzyrea | make a branch git bz apply xxxx |
| 20:57 | what's your error? | |
| 20:57 | magnuse | libsysguy: see http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]gn_off_on_patches |
| 20:57 | wizzyrea | git bz? |
| 20:57 | hrmph I know I taught wahanui about that. | |
| 20:57 | libsysguy | wizzyrea: bz isnt' a git command |
| 20:58 | wizzyrea | ah you probably need to make sure that git-bz is in your path |
| 20:58 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_bz_configuration | |
| 21:03 | libsysguy | holy moly it works :D |
| 21:03 | phlunk3 | eyth just making the dump with mysqldump and loading it via the command line (data and structure) |
| 21:04 | * libsysguy | is so happy |
| 21:04 | phlunk3 | maybe I should make a new dump with jsut data and try loading that to the existing tables. Will see what happens :) |
| 21:04 | wizzyrea | hehe |
| 21:04 | what ended up being the problem? | |
| 21:04 | libsysguy | i think it was an old version of git-bz or something |
| 21:05 | wizzyrea | cool beans! |
| 21:05 | libsysguy | i checked out slefs copy and it worked awesome |
| 21:06 | * magnuse | bids #koha a good night or other time of the day |
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| 21:10 | libsysguy | wizzyrea: is there anything i have to do after apply a patch |
| 21:10 | wizzyrea | test it ^.^ |
| 21:10 | libsysguy | hehe |
| 21:10 | wizzyrea | (no) |
| 21:10 | libsysguy | even for db changes |
| 21:11 | i was trying to test bug 5549 | |
| 21:11 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5549 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, ian.walls, ASSIGNED , Hourly Loans |
| 21:11 | wizzyrea | for DB changes you'll have to hit the web interface |
| 21:11 | and go through the update process | |
| 21:11 | I don't honestly test those much | |
| 21:11 | I think you have to give the updatedatabase script a number | |
| 21:11 | * libsysguy | doesn't have a choice |
| 21:11 | wizzyrea | one of the others may be able to help more? |
| 21:11 | cait maybe? | |
| 21:12 | hmm cait's probably in bed. | |
| 21:12 | libsysguy | hehe |
| 21:12 | * libsysguy | would like to be sleeping and its only 4 here |
| 21:12 | cait | hm'? |
| 21:12 | no I am here | |
| 21:12 | libsysguy | cait lives |
| 21:12 | lol | |
| 21:12 | cait | not really :P |
| 21:12 | libsysguy | haha |
| 21:12 | do you know how to do db patches with git bz | |
| 21:13 | wizzyrea | (though the bz part is only for getting and pushing patches, the rest is SOP) |
| 21:13 | (with git) | |
| 21:13 | cait | ah |
| 21:13 | libsysguy | SOP? |
| 21:13 | cait | reading back |
| 21:13 | ok | |
| 21:13 | wizzyrea | standard operating procedure |
| 21:14 | cait | let me look at the patch for a second |
| 21:14 | libsysguy | ahh gotcha |
| 21:14 | ok | |
| 21:14 | cait | do you have the bug number? |
| 21:14 | sop? | |
| 21:14 | ah | |
| 21:14 | libsysguy | 5549 |
| 21:14 | cait | bug 5549 |
| 21:14 | libsysguy | bug 5549 |
| 21:14 | cait | lazy wahanui? |
| 21:14 | libsysguy | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5549 |
| 21:14 | huginn` | 04Bug 5549: enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, ian.walls, ASSIGNED , Hourly Loans |
| 21:15 | cait | hm |
| 21:15 | it looks like they did something new there | |
| 21:15 | libsysguy | sadly |
| 21:15 | cait | have you tried to run the perl file colin mentions? |
| 21:16 | installer/data/mysql/atomicupdate/hourlyloans.sql | |
| 21:16 | libsysguy | that path doesn't exist |
| 21:16 | cait | and which patch did you apply? |
| 21:16 | why not checkout the branch? | |
| 21:16 | libsysguy | 6430 6431 6432 6438 |
| 21:17 | and that may not be a bad idea | |
| 21:17 | cait | oh |
| 21:17 | libsysguy | i made a new branch for those patches |
| 21:17 | cait | hm |
| 21:17 | not sure how that all belongs together | |
| 21:17 | you don#t have the file colin mentions? | |
| 21:17 | libsysguy | how would i check out that branch? |
| 21:17 | and no I don't | |
| 21:18 | oh wait | |
| 21:18 | i might have had a typo | |
| 21:18 | yeah definitely not | |
| 21:18 | cait | hm something lieke |
| 21:19 | git checkout -b yournameforit new/awaiting_qa/bug_5549 | |
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| 21:19 | cait | are you checking in the browser or on command line, for the file? |
| 21:19 | phlunk3 | okay stupid question maybe I just made my dump wrong, but I dumped the whole database including tables and try to import that to an empty database and am getting "ERROR 1452 (23000) at line 859456: Cannot add or update a child row: a foreign key constraint fails" anyone knows how to solve this issue so I can migrate data from one install to the other? if not I can try doing a data only export but then I will have probs that the base data is set from the i |
| 21:19 | nstallation. | |
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| 21:20 | cait | phlunk3: sorry, not sure what is the problem there |
| 21:22 | mysqldump -u<user> -p <database> >dump_xxx.sql | |
| 21:22 | is what I normally do | |
| 21:22 | and then mysql -u<user> -p <database> <dump_xxx.sql to load it | |
| 21:22 | that worked without problems so far | |
| 21:23 | libsysguy: still around? | |
| 21:23 | libsysguy | yeah |
| 21:23 | cait | I think what I would do is kill the branch you have applied the patches too and try testing the qa branch from the repository |
| 21:23 | libsysguy | i got an error |
| 21:23 | fatal: git checkout: updating paths is incompatible with switching branches. | |
| 21:23 | Did you intend to checkout 'new/awaiting_qa/bug_5549' which can not be resolved as commit? | |
| 21:23 | cait | like? |
| 21:23 | libsysguy | ^^ |
| 21:24 | cait | sorry... the chat scrolling is broken again |
| 21:24 | libsysguy | oh noes |
| 21:24 | cait | irritating |
| 21:24 | libsysguy | indeed |
| 21:24 | cait | hm |
| 21:24 | phlunk3 | will try making a new dump maybe something went wrong there |
| 21:24 | libsysguy | when you updated did you drop the old database? |
| 21:25 | phlunk3 | |
| 21:25 | jcamins_away | libsysguy: did you remember to include the remote in there? e.g. kc/new/awaiting_qa/bug_5549? |
| 21:25 | cait | libsysguy: git checkout -b yournewbranch remotebranch should work |
| 21:25 | ah | |
| 21:25 | tht might be it | |
| 21:25 | although my wiki cheat sheet does not have the remote part, for the main repo | |
| 21:29 | phlunk3 | yeah I dropped the old db libsysguy |
| 21:30 | libsysguy | hmm |
| 21:30 | wizzyrea | fining interval - does it do something weird? my peeps tell me that on a *new* rule, having a fining interval extends the circ period by the number in fining interval?! |
| 21:31 | but | |
| 21:31 | rules dating back before our last upgrade to head, have fining intervals, and their circ periods are just fine?! | |
| 21:36 | cait | hm |
| 21:37 | wizzyrea: how high is the fining interval? | |
| 21:37 | wizzyrea | like, 1 |
| 21:37 | cait | yeah |
| 21:37 | it's true | |
| 21:37 | means probably an implicit grace period of 1 | |
| 21:37 | I have 7 | |
| 21:37 | libsysguy | jcamins_away: i think i missed something |
| 21:37 | cait | which means that the first fine is added 7 days after due date |
| 21:37 | libsysguy | i did git remote add hourly http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?[…]log;h=refs/heads/\ |
| 21:37 | bug_5549 | |
| 21:37 | cait | so what they tell you sounds reasonable |
| 21:37 | libsysguy | oops |
| 21:38 | wizzyrea | but actually moving the due date? |
| 21:38 | libsysguy | then git checkout -b bug_5549 hourly/new/awaiting_qa/bug_5549 |
| 21:38 | cait | libsysguy: it#s on the normal repo |
| 21:38 | wizzyrea | doesn't that seem odd? |
| 21:38 | cait | yes |
| 21:38 | wizzyrea | seems like it shouldn't do that |
| 21:38 | cait | it's annoying big time |
| 21:38 | wizzyrea | but the old rules aren't doing that!? |
| 21:38 | cait | they always did |
| 21:38 | for the 7 days thing at least | |
| 21:38 | we are running 3.2.2 right now and it's like that there | |
| 21:39 | I have an open bug for it | |
| 21:39 | wizzyrea | the due date is offset by the number in the db table 'chargeperiod' |
| 21:39 | ? | |
| 21:39 | cait | ah |
| 21:39 | jcamins_away | libsysguy: it sounds like your remote might already include the path? Maybe git checkout -b bug_5549 hourly |
| 21:39 | cait | not the duedate no |
| 21:39 | only the day when the first fine is set | |
| 21:39 | jcamins_away | libsysguy: just guessing. |
| 21:39 | cait | sorry, perhaps i misunderstood |
| 21:39 | libsysguy | i keep getting this error: |
| 21:40 | jcamins_away | libsysguy: I'm currently working on a book project, so I'm only looking every so often. |
| 21:40 | cait | jcamins_away: libsysguy: it's on the normal repo, not catalyst |
| 21:40 | libsysguy | fatal: git checkout: updating paths is incompatible with switching branches. |
| 21:40 | Did you intend to checkout 'hourly' which can not be resolved as commit? | |
| 21:40 | wahanui | i already had it that way, libsysguy. |
| 21:40 | jcamins_away | libsysguy: okay, try this: |
| 21:40 | cait | so I think you don#t have to add a new remote repo |
| 21:40 | jcamins_away | git checkout -b bug_5549 master/new/awaiting_qa/bug_5549 |
| 21:40 | wizzyrea | i'm going to make him recreate it |
| 21:40 | cait | wizzyrea: sorry for causing confusion |
| 21:41 | libsysguy | same error jcamins |
| 21:41 | wizzyrea | because that just seems ludicrous; it wouldn't treat some rules different than others, just because of their age |
| 21:41 | no no, it's fine | |
| 21:41 | cait | libsysguy: what dos your git remote show look like? |
| 21:41 | jcamins_away | libsysguy: hm. Out of ideas, then. |
| 21:41 | libsysguy | haha |
| 21:41 | i wonder if i can delete that remote branch | |
| 21:41 | wizzyrea | because it doesn't have a mechanism that I can see by which 'old' rules would be different from 'new rules |
| 21:42 | cait | wizzyrea: yea, changng the due_date sounds odd |
| 21:42 | phlunk3 | okay I managed to import my database from a new dump without a hitch, but upon logging in I see only this error: Template process failed: file error - doc-head-open.inc: not found at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Templates.pm line 119. any ideas? |
| 21:42 | cait | have you installed Template::Toolkit? |
| 21:42 | T::T? | |
| 21:42 | wahanui | T::T is, like, Template::Toolkit, the templating system Koha uses starting with version 3.4 |
| 21:43 | phlunk3 | ahh no I have only installed the requirements for the package install. Can you tell me how to install this? |
| 21:43 | cait | thought wahanui would tell :) |
| 21:43 | which os are you using? | |
| 21:43 | phlunk3 | ubuntu |
| 21:44 | jcamins_away | wahanui: T::T is also installed by running apt-get install libtemplate-perl |
| 21:44 | wahanui | okay, jcamins_away. |
| 21:44 | cait | you have to install this and also run a script |
| 21:44 | to remove your items from the xml, it's in the release notes | |
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| 21:46 | Phlunk | sorry something happened, other irc client crashed. do u know what script I need to run? as it seems the package is already installed and up to date. |
| 21:48 | cait | hm |
| 21:48 | jcamins_away: any idea about hte error? | |
| 21:48 | oh | |
| 21:48 | jcamins_away | cait: none, sorry. |
| 21:48 | cait | have you other languages installed |
| 21:48 | ? | |
| 21:49 | Phlunk | no, or at least only what was installed with the base package. |
| 21:49 | cait | ok, so you use the normal english templates? |
| 21:49 | Phlunk | read online that it can be that the system is set to use a language not installed. |
| 21:49 | jcamins_away | Phlunk: wait, you're on a package install? |
| 21:49 | cait | oh |
| 21:49 | right | |
| 21:49 | Phlunk | yes this was with a package installation. |
| 21:49 | which worked np | |
| 21:49 | then I moved the database over. | |
| 21:50 | so it can be that they had some other language selected, but I am not sure where to see this in the database. | |
| 21:55 | | language | en-NZ | | Set the default language in the staff client. | Languages | | |
| 21:55 | do I need to install a special template pack for en-NZ somehow? | |
| 21:56 | cait | that will not work with the templates right now |
| 21:56 | is that line from your systempreferences? | |
| 21:56 | table? | |
| 21:57 | Phlunk | yes, I updated it to en-EN now and it is now showing an installer screen. |
| 21:57 | cait | ok, that will not work with the packages right now, only en will work afaik |
| 21:57 | great | |
| 21:57 | :) | |
| 21:57 | Phlunk | no not great :P I dont want to install it again, I just want it to use the data that I pushed to the database right? or will this run some migration scripts? |
| 21:57 | cait | it will update the database |
| 21:58 | Phlunk | cool I shall give it a go ;) if I can just remember the password I chose lol |
| 21:58 | cait | if not |
| 21:58 | it's in your xml file | |
| 21:58 | the koha_conf xml thing | |
| 21:58 | Phlunk | hehe I know :) |
| 21:59 | cait | it should ask you about updates and run them, normally all should be ok after that |
| 21:59 | Phlunk | We are upgrading from Koha 3.00.05.003 to 3.04.02.000, you must update your database omg looks good, thanks heaps guys you've been a big help so far. |
| 21:59 | cait | cool |
| 21:59 | remember to run the script to remove the items | |
| 22:00 | I think there might be a command in the packages to do this | |
| 22:00 | Phlunk | which script? :S |
| 22:01 | cait | hm |
| 22:01 | Phlunk | okay I have another issue, the update all seemed to go fine, but it pushes me through to the domain from the old server. is this stored in the db somewhere? |
| 22:02 | libsysguy | later #Koha |
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| 22:03 | Phlunk | okay nevermind the server thing, was a custom part which an intern had made I believe lol. |
| 22:04 | cait | check the release notes for 3.4 for the name of the script |
| 22:04 | Phlunk | tx cait will do |
| 22:04 | cait | ok |
| 22:04 | :) | |
| 22:04 | now time to go to bed here | |
| 22:04 | bye all | |
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| 22:30 | Rob | Hi is anyone online |
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| 22:44 | Topic for #koha is now Koha 3.4.3 and 3.2.10 are now available | Next IRC meeting 2 August 2011 02:00 UTC+0 | http://koha-community.org/ | This channel is logged | Pastes at http://paste.koha-community.org/ | |
| 22:45 | rhcl_away | 3.4.3 already? Excellent! |
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