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00:01 | eythian | rangi: ok, assume I have 4 commits, --amend only works on tip. Any easy way of going back and signing off on a range? |
00:02 | (that you can think of) | |
00:02 | rangi | hmmm not that i can think of |
00:10 | hdl1 | eythian |
00:10 | eythian | hdl1 |
00:10 | hdl1 | i just happened to know that. |
00:10 | eythian | :D |
00:10 | hdl1 | http://stackoverflow.com/quest[…]f-a-commit-in-git |
00:11 | rangi | w00t |
00:11 | hdl1 | you may also sign off on patch with that... |
00:12 | http://www.kernel.org/pub/soft[…]ilter-branch.html | |
00:14 | eythian: other way would be to rebase -i | |
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00:15 | hdl1 | rangi: this one could be interesting too. |
00:15 | http://stackoverflow.com/quest[…]ring-a-repository | |
00:17 | don't know why translations are still direct part of Koha when it could both easily and efficiently be a different repo. | |
00:17 | rangi | ask the translations manager :) |
00:18 | my guess is probably due to the reason lots of other things dont get done, time | |
00:23 | hdl1 | it is not the only responsibility of translation manager. |
00:24 | But everyone is overwhelmed. | |
00:24 | ok | |
00:24 | eythian | hdl1: if it's any consolation, I hope to make translations be addon packages for the debian packaging :) |
00:25 | hdl1: also, I think the rebase -i in that page will do exactly what I need, given it's only a handful of commits | |
00:25 | hdl1 | the debian packaging is not usefull to keep git archive. |
00:26 | it deploys a standard koha and looses the .git directory. | |
00:27 | eythian | yeah, it's always intended to be a downstream view of the git repo, including .git with it is not possible (nor sensible, really) |
00:28 | hdl1 | but thanks... |
00:28 | well when you have to apply a patch to a customer install it is much more handy to rely on a git. | |
00:29 | But maybe I don't have the background you have. | |
00:29 | rangi | we apply it to git, and build and deploy a new package |
00:29 | thats how we do it here | |
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00:30 | eythian | it's significantly easier to integrate with the system from a package. |
00:30 | rangi | we should be getting rid of our last couple of git deployments in production very soon |
00:30 | and then its put a new package in the repo, apt-get upgrade | |
00:30 | but it does take time setting that up, once its done, i find it faster | |
00:33 | hdl1 | when you have customers with redhat centos and macos x... |
00:34 | eythian | we don't do that :) |
00:36 | hdl1 | we did... a long time ago. |
00:37 | but have to maintain. | |
00:37 | eythian | Debian is our standard platform, and we'll accept Ubuntu in a pinch. |
00:37 | we don't have a lot of legacy systems to worry about. | |
00:38 | hdl1 | lucky you |
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01:11 | huginn` | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 4415] child record only using parent's info <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4415> |
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01:54 | druthb | Hi. |
01:54 | rangi | oh look its druthb !!!! |
01:54 | they let you move now? | |
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01:55 | druthb | Yup. Can r as ise head of bed now. |
01:55 | nengard | a little birdy told me that a bad girl is on IRC instead of recovering |
01:55 | and there she is | |
01:56 | druthb i thought we left that phone out of your reach :) | |
01:56 | rangi | good to hear from you, and that all went well |
01:56 | druthb | Nengard :P |
01:56 | nengard | you love me :) |
01:56 | druthb | Yes. |
01:56 | nengard | just finished the slides for tomorrow's AALL talk |
01:56 | my first of 3 at this conference! | |
01:56 | what was I thinking? | |
01:58 | rangi | hehe |
01:58 | druthb | Lol |
01:58 | Space_Librarian | O.o |
02:00 | druthb | Off to bed now. Be well. |
02:00 | rangi | you too, sleep well ;) |
02:00 | nengard | see you soon |
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02:01 | Space_Librarian | ciao |
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02:11 | cait | hi #koha |
02:12 | Space_Librarian | hey cait |
02:12 | cait | hi Space_Librarian |
02:12 | rangi | you just missed druthb |
02:12 | is your train/bus soon? | |
02:13 | * Space_Librarian | hands over Schneckennudeln to cait |
02:16 | cait | I missed druthb? :( |
02:16 | have to leave in 30 minutes | |
02:16 | rangi | yup, she was only here a short while |
02:16 | cait | crap |
02:16 | Space_Librarian | and posted briefly on google+ too |
02:17 | cait | I see it |
02:18 | cna not even sleep 2 hours without missing something | |
02:18 | ts. | |
02:18 | rangi | she'll be back :) |
02:18 | do you get to sleep on the train? | |
02:18 | cait | it's only 1 hour |
02:18 | and about 1.5 hour flight | |
02:18 | rangi | ah, guess not then |
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02:54 | * cait | can sleep almost everywhere |
02:54 | cait | :) |
02:57 | bye all | |
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03:35 | Amit_Gupta | heya chris ;) |
03:35 | good morning koha ;) | |
03:36 | rangi | hiya Amit_Gupta |
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04:52 | kmkale | Namaskar #koha |
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05:24 | rangi | @wunder wellington nz |
05:24 | huginn` | rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 8.0�C (5:00 PM NZST on July 21, 2011). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 6.0�C. Windchill: 3.0�C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady). |
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06:04 | fredericd | rangi: I'm looking at bug 6458 and mailing list discussion |
06:04 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6458 normal, P5, ---, frederic, NEW , incorrect parsing result in translation processing |
06:04 | fredericd | why having a test in xt and not in t |
06:04 | like other 00-*.t tests? | |
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06:09 | druthb | @seen cait |
06:09 | huginn` | druthb: cait was last seen in #koha 3 hours, 11 minutes, and 59 seconds ago: <cait> bye all |
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06:10 | fredericd | hello druthb |
06:10 | druthb | Hi. |
06:10 | eythian | this library has an entire item type devoted to one author. |
06:10 | hello druthb | |
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06:11 | francharb | hello #koha |
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06:27 | reiveune | hello |
06:27 | wahanui | niihau, reiveune |
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07:09 | julian | hello |
07:09 | wahanui | bonjour, julian |
07:09 | sophie_m | hi |
07:09 | wahanui | salut, sophie_m |
07:10 | julian | bonjour wahanui |
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07:21 | clrh | hello |
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07:35 | eythian | wahanui: in actual news |
07:35 | wahanui | eythian: sorry... |
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07:35 | eythian | wahanui: in actual news is <reply>the human race was doomed to extinction today as the robot revolt turned violent. |
07:35 | wahanui | OK, eythian. |
07:35 | eythian | wahanui: in actual news |
07:35 | wahanui | the human race was doomed to extinction today as the robot revolt turned violent. |
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07:42 | eythian | wahanui: OSX is <reply>the current release is OSX Nyan Cat |
07:42 | wahanui | OK, eythian. |
07:50 | rangi | fredericd: t/ is testing the code, xt/ is testing templates etc |
07:50 | and systempreferences | |
07:51 | xt/ are release only tests | |
07:51 | t/ are ones designed to be run on install, xt/ ones can and often do take a long time to run | |
07:52 | its a common naming convention in testing | |
08:00 | paul_p | hello world |
08:01 | rangi | heya paul_p |
08:03 | slef | @later tell rhcl not as far as I know. I've bookmarked that so we should see the next one in time. |
08:03 | huginn` | slef: The operation succeeded. |
08:03 | slef | anyway, London is two regions away and polluted |
08:04 | I tend to go there only when paid :) | |
08:07 | paul_p | rangi, just read your blog post about 3.6 halfway. Do you have some news about 5872 ? is there something preventing sign-off-ing it ? |
08:08 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: Fixing missing padding on module version <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]8078263066dcc7a7b> |
08:09 | rangi | i think the news is all in the comments |
08:17 | if you can find someone to test it all, including against the version of jquery that comes with debian, and is happy to sign off on it, it can go up to qa | |
08:18 | paul_p | mmm... but jquery is still included in Koha, isn't it ? we don't rely on packaged jquery for instance ? |
08:19 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 333 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
08:20 | rangi | we do, with the packages |
08:20 | eythian | we don't at the moment, but there are plans to move to it, as it would allow us to upgrade jquery and get shiny new things from it. Locking in to an old version is problematic. |
08:20 | paul_p | eythian, I agree |
08:20 | eythian | (the packages don't, but they will when certain bugs are fixed in koha) |
08:20 | paul_p | rangi: can you show me where it is, how it works ? |
08:21 | rangi | how to test with the debian version? |
08:21 | paul_p | rangi, how to tell koha "use packaged jquery instead of koha jquery" |
08:21 | rangi | install the debian version of jquery |
08:21 | eythian | the debian version is 1.4.2 |
08:22 | rangi | you can use a rewrite rule in the apache conf to switch between then if you want |
08:23 | or you can move the version in koha out of hte way, and symlink the new one in, etc | |
08:23 | paul_p | ok, so there is nothing in Koha itself, it's linux/apache thing. OK, I understand better now (I thought i had missed something) |
08:24 | eythian | well, Koha bundles a rather old jquery that's used. |
08:24 | rangi | the other thing is to pick a version number of jeditable |
08:24 | so that it can be packaged too | |
08:25 | paul_p | the other part of the question is : how can we provide something flexible, ie that works with most distros... |
08:25 | * paul_p | feel it's a complex task that must not be underestimated... |
08:26 | eythian | in the case of debian, I (or someone) can make a package for it if it's not there already. |
08:26 | rangi | yes, but that is a different question |
08:26 | we can just do what we do for the others, bundle it in the source a source install, use the packaged versions for a packaged install | |
08:27 | paul_p | for example, in Ubuntu, we have jquery 1.5.2, not 1.6.2, the last available version |
08:27 | yes, it's another story | |
08:27 | eythian | awesome, hard part of the current task completed, I can finish off the easy stuff tomorrow and go home now. |
08:27 | rangi | the version number is the important thing, so people can choose where to get it from |
08:28 | (for jeditable) | |
08:28 | paul_p | mmm... if we bundle it in the source, why is there a problem with what hdl suggested with jeditable ? why can't we just stick with the koha-bundled version ? |
08:28 | s/a problem/something new/ | |
08:29 | it's exactly like other jquery stuffs isn't it ? | |
08:29 | rangi | yes, and the jquery stuff is wrong |
08:30 | we dont bundle all the perl modules | |
08:30 | paul_p | we bundle just what we need or there are important things missing ? |
08:30 | rangi | we should be moving away from bundling things |
08:30 | not bundling more | |
08:31 | paul_p | yes, I agree. But I think we should do a separate thing for that. not add it to the 5872 entry. |
08:32 | rangi | so add it, then hope that someone takes it back out? |
08:32 | i dont really mind, it still needs to be tested and signed off by someone and put into a state that a git merge can pull it in | |
08:33 | then its up to qa | |
08:34 | paul_p | that's were we should have an open discussion I think (during next IRC ?). We (BibLibre) could have someone working on removing jquery if it's franlky/openly/firmly decided & organised |
08:35 | eythian | paul_p: Bug 5184 is related |
08:35 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5184 enhancement, P5, ---, robin, ASSIGNED , Upgrade to support jQuery 1.4.2 |
08:35 | rangi | removing it is less important than that |
08:36 | * mtj | waves.... |
08:36 | mtj | hi peoples |
08:36 | rangi | but like i say, get someone to sign off on it, and it will go up to the qa manager |
08:36 | paul_p | hi mjt. |
08:36 | rangi | hey mtj |
08:37 | mtj | ... just reading the scroll-back |
08:38 | paul_p | about the QA = there are 94 bugs signed-off & waiting for QA. did you spoke with ian about that recently ? (remember my mail a few weeks ago) |
08:39 | rangi | yes |
08:39 | you will have noticed that quite a few have been marked passed qa | |
08:39 | in the last week | |
08:40 | http://stats.workbuffer.org/graph.html | |
08:42 | paul_p | yep, but as many have been signed-off too, the number is not lowered a lot ;-) |
08:42 | (how are you building this nice graph ?) | |
08:43 | rangi | i wrote a json interface to bugzilla |
08:43 | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]ress.pl?type=json | |
08:43 | and then jplot it | |
08:44 | (check the source of the page) | |
08:44 | http://stats.workbuffer.org/its_a_bugs_life.html | |
08:44 | similair thing | |
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09:02 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #333: SUCCESS in 43 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/333/ |
09:02 | Chris Cormack: Fixing missing padding on module version | |
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09:02 | rangi | hi magnuse |
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09:03 | magnuse | hiya rangi |
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09:04 | rangi | ohh its druthb !! |
09:04 | magnuse | hiya druthb!!! |
09:04 | rangi | hows my favourite hospitalised woman? |
09:05 | druthb | Hi. Feeling a lil better. |
09:05 | * magnuse | echoes rangi |
09:05 | magnuse | yay! |
09:06 | druthb | :) |
09:07 | Hope they get me out of bed today. | |
09:07 | magnuse | cool |
09:08 | * magnuse | was starting to get worried 'cause there were no updates on the blog, but sighs in relief now... |
09:08 | rangi | :) |
09:09 | druthb | Was hoping to see kf... |
09:09 | rangi | ahh she is on her way to austria |
09:10 | or alreay there and panicking about her 3 hour presentation, which we all know she will do fine at | |
09:10 | magnuse | yeah, she has a big day tomorrow |
09:10 | druthb | Ohhh..i remember now. |
09:10 | * magnuse | hopes someone responds to the thing from hugo boss too ;-) |
09:11 | rangi | they are emailing everyone lots :) |
09:12 | space_librarian emailed them back to ask them a few questions, like what version of koha etc | |
09:12 | druthb | Im gonna go back to sleep for a bit. C u soon. |
09:12 | magnuse | sleep tight druthb! |
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09:15 | rangi | magnuse: you going to reply to them too? |
09:16 | magnuse | rangi: nope, i'm not that much of a developer (yet) |
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09:17 | rangi | i think most of it is actually done, in the self check module |
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09:22 | magnuse | ah, i didn't look that closely at it... |
09:24 | my next holiday project is translations for the packages, hope to make some progress before the holiday is over... | |
09:25 | rangi | wooo hoooo! |
09:29 | paul_p: the jplot thing was an expirement, i think wouldnt be hard to add the ability to the reports | |
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09:32 | magnuse | rangi: don't get exited too soon! i'm really starting from scratch when it comes packaging, but i know who i can bug... ;-) |
09:33 | paul_p: are you having another community (half) day tomorrow? | |
09:33 | rangi | magnuse: liw? :-) |
09:34 | magnuse | yeah, and eythian, and maybe even you... ;-) |
09:34 | rangi | :) |
09:35 | magnuse | and there was someone else who had an opinion on the mailinglist a little while back too |
09:36 | so with the emails that have already sketched out the way forward, a bit of googling and some good friends i might be able to make progress ;-) | |
09:36 | and learn some new stuff along the way | |
09:36 | rangi | :) |
09:37 | liw | packaging... there's been a number of Debian packaging tutorials over irc over the years; some of the Debian people might be willing to give one to Koha too, if Koha people are interested |
09:37 | magnuse | i'd be up for that |
09:38 | paul_p | magnuse, yep, we havd anothor community day tomorrow |
09:38 | magnuse | but there's a lot of stuff already out there to digest too... |
09:39 | paul_p: cool. my instinct is to keep gbsd ~monthly, any thoughts on that? | |
09:39 | paul_p | I think it's better to have a full day -more TZ overlappings- |
09:39 | magnuse | so maybe have the next one august 4th |
09:39 | yeah, i think i'll stick to that unless anyone objects | |
09:52 | rangi | i think once a month works well |
09:57 | magnuse | i'll do a wiki page and e-mail for august 4th later today then |
09:58 | rangi | sweet |
09:58 | magnuse | my pleasure ;-) |
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10:22 | rangi | @wunder wellington nz |
10:22 | huginn` | rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 9.0�C (10:00 PM NZST on July 21, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 4.0�C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Falling). |
10:22 | rangi | hmm i dont believe that for a second |
10:23 | ah yes, feels like 2 | |
10:23 | thats more like it | |
10:23 | http://www.metservice.com/towns-cities/wellington | |
10:27 | paul_p | probably the difference between real temp & feeled temp (diff because of wind/dew,...) |
10:27 | s/dew/humidity/ | |
10:27 | rangi | yep |
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10:32 | * cait | waves |
10:32 | rangi | cait!! |
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10:32 | cait | yep |
10:32 | still awake and in vienna :) | |
10:32 | rangi | hows austria? |
10:32 | cait | waiting for my hotel room |
10:33 | rangi | found wifi? |
10:33 | cait | rainy |
10:33 | yes, hotel lobby, waiting for my room to get ready and for the rain to stop | |
10:33 | rangi | ahh thats good (that the hotel has wifi) |
10:33 | cait | yes :) |
10:34 | the cheapest hotels have the best wifi deals, wonder why that is | |
10:34 | rangi | yeah, its weird |
10:36 | cait | @wunder vienna |
10:36 | huginn` | cait: Error: No such location could be found. |
10:36 | cait | @wunder wien |
10:36 | huginn` | cait: The current temperature in 1030 Wien, VIENNA, Austria is 15.8�C (12:30 PM CEST on July 21, 2011). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 29.64 in 1003.6 hPa (Steady). |
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11:10 | mtj | heya cait |
11:11 | cait | hiya mason :) |
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11:23 | mtj | cait: have fun in your hotel room :) |
11:23 | cait | not ready yet |
11:23 | and going to do some sight seeing later :) | |
11:33 | huginn` | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6620] Sip Server Output may be buffered <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6620> |
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11:50 | cait | learning_perl++ |
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12:12 | oleonard | "Anyone is using KOHA with barcode." What does that mean? |
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12:26 | nengard | oleonard - I have no idea |
12:27 | but if you know how I can get the word out that it's Koha and not KOHA that would be great!!!!!! | |
12:27 | oleonard | I can't even get my own staff to do that. |
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12:45 | oleonard | Anyone looking for a simple template patch to sign off on? I have one on bug 5917 waiting eagerly. |
12:45 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5917 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Switch Koha to use Template::Toolkit |
12:48 | talljoy | I am looking for a tool to convert patron marc records to csv. Does anyone know of one? |
12:49 | nengard | patron marc? |
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12:49 | nengard | druthb!! |
12:49 | wahanui | druthb is gonna be out the week of July 18-22, and you won't see much of her for a couple of weeks after that. |
12:49 | nengard | but i do see her |
12:49 | talljoy | i see her too |
12:50 | druthb | Hi |
12:50 | talljoy | Hi! |
12:50 | nengard | oleonard i'm on it |
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12:51 | talljoy | yes patron marc records. I need to convert to csv |
12:52 | * druthb | is more mobile today but still very weak. |
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12:53 | talljoy | rest, rest, rest. |
12:53 | oleonard | Hi druthb, glad to hear you're recovering |
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12:54 | talljoy | how about MARC RTP? anyone use that before? |
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13:50 | wizzyrea | ((((((druthb))))))) |
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14:14 | tomato | KOHA |
14:14 | KOHA | |
14:14 | KOHA | |
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14:16 | talljoy | are we doing cheers? |
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14:17 | nengard | no he's trying to get under my skin .... |
14:17 | it's Koha | |
14:17 | Koha | |
14:17 | Koha | |
14:17 | :) | |
14:17 | * cait | hides |
14:17 | nengard | hiya cait :) |
14:17 | cait | hi nengard |
14:18 | any news about ruth? missed her twice today | |
14:19 | rhcl | who is that dame tomato guy anyway? |
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14:20 | nengard | HA |
14:20 | cait she's doing good | |
14:20 | Koha | Did someone speak my name in vain? |
14:20 | nengard | she is moving a bit more today |
14:20 | wizzyrea | lol |
14:20 | nengard | I can't see her today |
14:20 | talljoy | lol |
14:20 | Koha | Or, even worse, all in caps? |
14:20 | nengard | cause I have to go in to the city |
14:20 | cait | ok |
14:20 | nengard | but will be there tomorrow |
14:20 | talljoy | oh great Koha.....we beg your forgiveness |
14:20 | nengard | and I'm sure she'll come on again |
14:21 | cait | I hope I will not miss her again |
14:21 | nengard | Koha, I never misuse your name!! |
14:21 | Koha | Forgiveness is granted. I am merciful. |
14:21 | wizzyrea | lol |
14:21 | cait | but if I do plz pass on another hug |
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14:21 | cait | oh |
14:21 | oh no, we lost Koha | |
14:21 | nengard | heh |
14:22 | okay, time to pack up and head out to teach law and court librarians | |
14:22 | ttyl | |
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14:28 | sekjal | cait: Koha is free, and as such will come and go as it pleases. but don't worry, it knows where to find those who love it. |
14:28 | cait | hehe |
14:28 | ok | |
14:30 | wizzyrea | oleonard: bug 6619 what we were talking about yesterday regarding the holds confirm screen |
14:30 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6619 minor, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW , pressing enter when hold found at checkin causes issues |
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15:04 | huginn` | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 2629] Diacritics not being ignored when searching <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2629> |
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15:09 | oleonard | wizzyrea, you say: "scanning a 2nd item (with a barcode scanner CR) while a "confirm hold" dialog is present doesn't check in the 2nd item *or* confirm or ignore the hold" |
15:09 | wizzyrea | that's what was indicated from the chat I thought |
15:09 | oleonard | It doesn't check in the 2nd item? I don't find that to be the case |
15:10 | wizzyrea | fair enough |
15:10 | oleonard | Okay, I wanted to make sure I wasn't seeing something you were. |
15:10 | Checking in the 2nd item and doing nothing with the confirmation is the same as clicking Ignore | |
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15:15 | oleonard | Interesting... a "<!-- Patron has waiting holds -->" block in returns.tt that does nothing... |
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15:20 | jcamins_away | oleonard: what, you mean you want that sort of thing to include functionality?!? |
15:20 | oleonard | :) |
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15:20 | oleonard | Actually I'm not sure where the mistake lies. Perhaps my database is to blame |
15:20 | I should have a HoldNotifyAtCheckin preference? | |
15:20 | Anyone else have that? | |
15:21 | See Bug 5922 | |
15:21 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5922 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED , Show waiting items for patron on return |
15:23 | jcamins | I'm back to working only with non-circulating libraries, so I don't really know anything about it. |
15:28 | cait | oleonard: yes, should be a system preference ad a hold waiting at the branch you ar loggd in at |
15:33 | oleonard | I don't see that in updatedatabase.pl |
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15:34 | oleonard | Oh wait I'm looking for the wrong string |
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15:48 | huginn` | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5922] Show waiting items for patron on return <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5922> |
15:49 | oleonard | Attachment 4703 |
15:49 | huginn` | 03Attachment http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]=4703&action=edit image/png, Screenshot of the proposed change, hold-for-patron-message-revision.png |
15:59 | wizzyrea | every time I delete a volume in AWS I get that swoopy feeling in my stomach like I"m doing something wrong (even when I've double, triple checked that what I'm doing is OK) |
16:00 | * wizzyrea | just had to share. |
16:01 | * oleonard | understands the feeling |
16:02 | oleonard | I get it almost any time I 'rm -rf' anything |
16:02 | wizzyrea | oh yea, same |
16:02 | and the immedate "oh god, did I just do that wrong?" | |
16:02 | then "phew, no I didn't" | |
16:02 | oleonard | Working with the returns template is confusing because I see conditionals for cases I don't ever see |
16:03 | I wonder if they aren't actually things that happen, or if I just haven't seen them. | |
16:03 | * oleonard | doesn't know the difference between "transfer" and "needstransfer," for instance |
16:04 | wizzyrea | hmm |
16:04 | maybe | |
16:04 | transfer is a correct transfer, and needstransfer is a wrong transfer? | |
16:04 | so many things that could mean >.< | |
16:04 | i see why you are confused | |
16:05 | oleonard | With the first, the template says "Please return to X." With the second, the template says "This needs to be transferred. Transfer now?" |
16:05 | wizzyrea | OH |
16:05 | that would be | |
16:05 | when an item doesn't have a reserve on it and just needs to go home | |
16:05 | ^^ transfer | |
16:05 | I don't think I've ever seen the 2nd verbiage | |
16:06 | maybe it's an independent branches thing? | |
16:07 | oleonard | Ah, I got it: It only appears if you have AutomaticItemReturn set to "Don't" automatically transfer items upon return |
16:07 | wizzyrea | Aha! |
16:10 | oleonard | Weird seeing a Koha dialog for the first time |
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16:11 | * oleonard | expands on the comment in the template |
16:12 | oleonard | Here's another one: "diffbranch." The dialog says "Item Consigned: Hold for:.." |
16:13 | wizzyrea | !! |
16:13 | that one I have no idea about. | |
16:13 | cait | consigned? |
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16:13 | cait | certainly have never seen that |
16:14 | * jcamins | only ever uses the word "consigned" to talk about clothes and the dustbin of history. |
16:14 | cait | nice not french academic library example? |
16:14 | or a nice special library whose opac I have not used before? :) | |
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16:16 | jcamins | beckercat.wustl.edu? |
16:19 | Ooh. A beautiful Benoit le Court binding. :) | |
16:19 | slef | hiding INSTALL* files :( |
16:20 | also | |
16:20 | YUI-- | |
16:20 | oleonard | What's YUI done today slef? |
16:21 | * oleonard | is working frequently on Bug 5481 |
16:21 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5481 enhancement, P5, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Replace YUI JS libraries with Jquery UI |
16:24 | slef | oleonard: I was banging my head on the CSS grids earlier, trying to get a 1-2-1 width layout with the 2 as early as possible in the source. I was nesting some combo of g* grids. It just doesn't seem to work as described on the website. |
16:24 | cait | oh becker has redone the catalog |
16:24 | thx jcamins | |
16:24 | slef | oleonard: for reasons I don't understand, I kept getting either 2-1-1 or 1-blank-1-1 :-/ |
16:24 | jcamins | cait: You're welcome. |
16:25 | oleonard | slef: Ah, the grids. Yeah, they're not always easy to work with. |
16:25 | slef | oleonard: so I'm a bit cross with them just now. |
16:25 | oleonard: is there any grid system that a. scales; and b. works? | |
16:25 | oleonard | slef: It's usually (a) that I find missing |
16:26 | slef | I've seen all sorts of things, like html5skeleton, and none of them both scale and work. |
16:26 | yeah... it looks like YUI can do a with the right settings but not always b, which I guess is distinctive at least ;-) | |
16:31 | oleonard | Do you use this slef? http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/grids/builder/ |
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16:37 | slef | oleonard: I saw it, but it can't do 25/50/25 can it? |
16:37 | oleonard | No, not that I can see |
16:40 | jcamins | slef: so would you consider the early Java layout schemes superior to YUI? |
16:52 | slef | jcamins: I don't remember them. |
16:54 | jcamins | slef: wise. |
16:55 | I've mostly blotted from my memory the exact way it worked, but I remember it was horrible. | |
16:55 | oleonard | jcamins: Was it for creating GUIs in Java? |
16:55 | jcamins | oleonard: yes. |
16:55 | slef | jcamins: I never programmed much Java. Was it three layout models like grid, place and flow? |
16:56 | jcamins | slef: yup. Those are they. |
16:56 | slef | ISTR when I used Java apps, lots had text that overflowed boxes, widgets colliding and stuff like that. |
16:57 | jcamins | Yeah. And my experience was limited to pre-Java2. |
16:57 | Wow. That was 14 years ago. | |
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17:00 | slef | Can someone answer http://koha-community.org/libr[…]e-1/#comment-3849 better than I could, please? |
17:00 | oh wait... have comments closed? :-/ | |
17:00 | well that's inopportune | |
17:01 | wizzyrea | well it's over a month old |
17:01 | slef | wizzyrea: so why's there still a link saying "Add your comment"? |
17:02 | theme bug? | |
17:02 | wizzyrea | ^^ |
17:03 | slef | Is that what Green Park 2 is? |
17:03 | wizzyrea | yes |
17:05 | slef | oh what the chuffing grrrrr |
17:06 | it's abandonware | |
17:06 | wizzyrea | what is |
17:06 | slef | Green Park 2 |
17:06 | "he can't provide support for any of hisWordpress themes" | |
17:07 | says to leave a comment on his blog | |
17:07 | but his blog page for the theme doesn't allow comments | |
17:08 | ah, there's a forum on the wordpress.org page for it | |
17:08 | http://wordpress.org/tags/cord[…]park-2?forum_id=5 | |
17:09 | * slef | does the password reset shuffle |
17:12 | * cait | sends slef a chocolateless cookie |
17:12 | jcamins | Does slef not like chocolate? |
17:14 | * slef | likes chocolate. chocolate doesn't like slef |
17:15 | jcamins | Oh no! |
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17:24 | slef | wizzyrea: posted http://wordpress.org/support/t[…]ments-have-closed |
17:24 | wizzyrea | cool thanks I'll watch it |
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17:25 | reiveune | bye |
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17:27 | slef | oleonard: have you tried http://csswizardry.com/inuitcss/ ? |
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17:58 | jcamins | Ohhh. |
17:58 | * jcamins | realizes why he's been having trouble breathing for the past two days. |
18:02 | cait | ? |
18:02 | allergies? | |
18:02 | oleonard | Forgot you put on a corset? |
18:02 | jcamins | Ozone. There's an air quality warning. |
18:03 | cait | ouch |
18:03 | jcamins | Well, now I know it's probably not psychosomatic. |
18:03 | jwagner | @wunder 20740 |
18:04 | huginn` | jwagner: The current temperature in Hollywood, College Park, Maryland is 36.4�C (2:03 PM EDT on July 21, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 56%. Dew Point: 26.0�C. Pressure: 29.78 in 1008.4 hPa (Falling). Excessive heat warning in effect until 8 PM EDT this evening... |
18:04 | jcamins | @wunder 11375 |
18:04 | huginn` | jcamins: The current temperature in Middle Village, Queens, New York is 33.6�C (2:00 PM EDT on July 21, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 25.0�C. Pressure: 29.75 in 1007.3 hPa (Steady). Excessive heat warning in effect until 10 PM EDT Friday... |
18:04 | jcamins | jwagner: I think it's coming up from there... the heat index is supposed to hit 114 tomorrow. |
18:05 | jwagner | We're already there. Today through Saturday, heat indexes are expected anywhere from 105 to 115 or higher. Ugh. |
18:05 | jcamins | I mean, I think *our* weather is coming up from by you. |
18:05 | jwagner | I have problems with air quality too. Thank goodness for being able to work from home. |
18:05 | Well, the weather came from those pesky Midwesterners first! | |
18:08 | jcamins | "Heat index values up to 103." "Heat index: 108" |
18:11 | cait | @wunder wien |
18:11 | huginn` | cait: The current temperature in 1030 Wien, VIENNA, Austria is 16.2�C (8:00 PM CEST on July 21, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 29.67 in 1004.6 hPa (Steady). |
18:11 | * jwagner | packs bags to go visit cait |
18:12 | cait | vienna is worth a visit |
18:12 | but people keep complaining about the autumn like weather | |
18:12 | jwagner | Tell them to consider the alternative -- they can have OUR weather if they want! |
18:13 | jcamins | We thought about visiting Vienna, but it was just a little too far. |
18:13 | cait | next time :) |
18:13 | jwagner | Don't think I made it down there when I was in that part of the world -- I might have just caught the edge of Austria, but I think I mostly kept to Bavaria & Switzerland. |
18:14 | rhcl | @wunder 60507 |
18:14 | huginn` | rhcl: The current temperature in West Batavia, Batavia, Illinois is 33.6�C (1:13 PM CDT on July 21, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 27.0�C. Pressure: 29.75 in 1007.3 hPa (Steady). Excessive heat warning in effect until 9 PM CDT this evening... |
18:14 | rhcl | oops |
18:14 | @wunder 64507 | |
18:14 | huginn` | rhcl: The current temperature in St Joseph, Missouri is 34.5�C (1:14 PM CDT on July 21, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 26%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 29.94 in 1013.8 hPa (Steady). Excessive heat warning in effect until 7 PM CDT Saturday... |
18:15 | jcamins | @wunder ellenville, ny |
18:15 | huginn` | jcamins: The current temperature in MonkWeather, Pine Bush, New York is 35.2�C (2:14 PM EDT on July 21, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 57%. Dew Point: 25.0�C. Pressure: 29.73 in 1006.7 hPa (Steady). Heat advisory in effect until 8 PM EDT this evening... |
18:17 | jcamins | Not that it sounds a whole lot better upstate, but at least I don't have to pay for the air conditioning. |
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18:29 | bg | @wunder 93109 |
18:29 | huginn` | bg: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 17.5�C (11:28 AM PDT on July 21, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 15.0�C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012.1 hPa (Steady). |
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18:45 | jcamins | @wunder lawrence, ks |
18:45 | huginn` | jcamins: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 37.4�C (1:45 PM CDT on July 21, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 39%. Dew Point: 21.0�C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007.0 hPa (Steady). Excessive heat warning in effect until 7 PM CDT Saturday... |
18:45 | oleonard | @wunder 45701 |
18:45 | huginn` | oleonard: The current temperature in Athens, Ohio is 33.0�C (2:35 PM EDT on July 21, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 23.0�C. Pressure: 29.88 in 1012 hPa (Falling). Excessive heat warning in effect until 8 PM EDT this evening... |
18:46 | wizzyrea | @wunder Lawrence KS |
18:46 | huginn` | wizzyrea: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 37.5�C (1:45 PM CDT on July 21, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 38%. Dew Point: 21.0�C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007.0 hPa (Steady). Excessive heat warning in effect until 7 PM CDT Saturday... |
18:46 | jcamins | wizzyrea: that's what I just looked up. |
18:46 | wizzyrea | lol jcamins did it for me, didn't see that sorry. |
18:46 | good god. The thermometer on the bank I just drove by said 105F | |
18:46 | that's just wrong. | |
18:46 | * jcamins | agrees |
18:47 | oleonard | What's wrong is chatting on IRC while driving ;) |
18:47 | wizzyrea | well I'm at my desk NOW silly. |
18:47 | * cait | waves |
18:47 | wizzyrea | but 5 minutes ago I was driving past a bank. |
18:47 | :P | |
18:47 | take that smarty | |
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18:59 | jwagner | Would someone confirm my memory? British Library uses SUTRS format and you can't z39.50 those into Koha? |
19:00 | jcamins | That is my understanding. |
19:00 | jwagner | That's what I remembered, but mind like a steel sieve.... |
19:00 | Thanks | |
19:07 | oleonard | slef: I hadn't seen inuitcss before |
19:07 | I like that it promises flexible (as opposed to only fixed) layouts | |
19:07 | That's one of the disadvantages I see to a lot of grid frameworks | |
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19:11 | jcamins | Hi, druthb! |
19:12 | wizzyrea | <bighug> druthb |
19:12 | druthb | Percocet++ |
19:12 | wizzyrea | hehe |
19:13 | druthb | Hi jcamins n wizzy |
19:14 | 4 units of blood and I feel so much beyer | |
19:15 | Better even | |
19:15 | oleonard | did that come with vodka and a celery stick? |
19:16 | druthb | I wish! |
19:16 | oleonard | Anyone know any Koha libraries who use Overdrive? |
19:17 | Seems like our options for presenting and filtering records in the OPAC are pretty limited | |
19:20 | cait | druthb? |
19:20 | wahanui | hmmm... druthb is gonna be out the week of July 18-22, and you won't see much of her for a couple of weeks after that. |
19:20 | druthb | Cait? |
19:20 | wahanui | it has been said that Cait is kf or a programmer or really sweet or a source of great chocolate or the purveyor of an infinite supply of virtual cookies |
19:20 | cait | you are really here :) |
19:20 | and I am too! | |
19:21 | druthb | :) |
19:38 | * druthb | heads back to bed. Thanks to everyone for the kind words n thoughts. |
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19:41 | rangi | @wunder wellington nz |
19:41 | huginn` | rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 8.0�C (7:00 AM NZST on July 22, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 2.0�C. Windchill: 3.0�C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Rising). |
19:45 | cait | hi rangi |
19:46 | rangi | heya cait :) |
19:52 | yay friday! | |
19:54 | JesseM | Hey rangi |
19:54 | rangi | heya swampperson :) |
19:55 | oleonard | swampperson? |
19:55 | JesseM | @wunder stratford ct |
19:55 | huginn` | JesseM: The current temperature in Nichols Elementary School, Stratford, Connecticut is 30.6�C (3:52 PM EDT on July 21, 2011). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 25.0�C. Pressure: 29.70 in 1005.6 hPa (Steady). Heat advisory in effect until 8 PM EDT this evening... |
19:55 | JesseM | the swamp people are awesome :) |
19:57 | rangi | oleonard: apparently a great show on discovery |
19:58 | im hoping it plays here at some point | |
19:59 | natec? | |
19:59 | wahanui | I LIKE SPACE! |
19:59 | * rangi | giggles |
20:00 | JesseM | range i'll send you the entire season |
20:00 | rangi opps | |
20:00 | rangi | awesome! |
20:00 | NateC | rangi: they cut me out of that interview! |
20:00 | these people don't know real humor when they see it | |
20:00 | rangi | aww man |
20:01 | hehe | |
20:01 | NateC | yeah but they left my buddy who said "i think we need to look at colonizing other planets; hey we are ruining this one may as well find another one to ruin" |
20:02 | rangi | hehe awesome |
20:02 | NateC | i would have gone with "I like space" direct and to the point |
20:02 | it just says it all, and on so many levels | |
20:03 | rangi | I like space .... and turtles |
20:03 | cait | turtles? |
20:03 | jcamins | NateC: it's also a very USian statement. It would have been perfect. :) |
20:04 | NateC | USian? |
20:04 | meaning that we are direct and to the point? | |
20:04 | jcamins | NateC: yeah, in case there are any Canadians who would get offended by the word "American." |
20:04 | rangi | cait: do a search on youtube for I like turtles |
20:05 | jcamins | NateC: I was referring to the amount of personal space Americans require, compared to other cultures. |
20:05 | NateC | gotcha |
20:05 | rangi | NateC: and use the word like more than anywhere else :) |
20:05 | like, I like space | |
20:05 | :) | |
20:05 | or maybe thats just California | |
20:05 | wizzyrea | lord, our average house size is almost twice the size of a house in the UK |
20:06 | jcamins | We start feeling impinged upon when a lot of other cultures would consider us too far apart to have a conversation. |
20:06 | rangi | oh theres a whole phd in this |
20:06 | cait | ? |
20:07 | rangi | ok my stop be back in 10 |
20:08 | wizzyrea | well, the US is land rich |
20:08 | oleonard | And brains-poor, judging from the news. |
20:08 | wizzyrea | oy no lie. |
20:08 | cait | the turtle confused me :P |
20:12 | nengard | druthb update - she's getting out of the hospital tomorrow! |
20:12 | wizzyrea | woohoo! |
20:12 | nengard | she goes from there to an apartment above the doc's office |
20:12 | for a couple weeks | |
20:13 | wizzyrea | nengard++ thanks for the update |
20:13 | nengard | no prob |
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20:17 | rangi | back |
20:18 | great news about druthb | |
20:21 | nengard | yup |
20:21 | she plans on leaving the hospital at about 10am tomorrow | |
20:21 | EST | |
20:22 | cait | :) |
20:23 | that's great news | |
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20:32 | * oleonard | reluctantly packs up to leave the comfort of his office for the sauna that is outside |
20:33 | braces himself | |
20:33 | nengard | are you walking home? |
20:33 | i had the air blasting in the car :) | |
20:33 | oleonard | No, but my car is surely an oven |
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20:35 | wizzyrea | did you see the video on "how to cool a hot car" |
20:35 | doh he's gone | |
20:35 | * jcamins | saw that video. |
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20:36 | * jcamins | doesn't ever drive, though |
20:36 | wizzyrea | I suppose you could cool your bike that way |
20:36 | wait | |
20:36 | that's silly talk. | |
20:36 | :) | |
20:36 | jcamins | :) |
20:37 | * jcamins | doesn't have a bike, anyway. |
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20:42 | Shelley | morning all. |
20:43 | rangi | heya Shelley |
20:43 | here we go | |
20:43 | http://grooveshark.com/#/playl[…]+Wake+Up/57239977 | |
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20:45 | cait | another rangi playlist! :) |
20:45 | jcamins | rangi: is there anything you don't have a playlist for? |
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20:45 | rangi | pretty much no |
20:45 | cait | :) |
20:45 | something in the water is in the radio here a lot now | |
20:45 | Shelley | Nice. |
20:46 | cait: it's a great album, that Brooke Fraser one | |
20:46 | cait | was on one of your lists too |
20:47 | rangi | oh yeah |
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20:47 | * Shelley | is having a nightmare with quassel atm |
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20:54 | cait | good night all |
20:54 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'kc/new/enh/bug_5917' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]1205e5c0c8eecb0ae> / Follow-up fixes for Bug 5917, Switch Koha to use Template::Toolkit <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]5aac26f35fb216b79> |
20:55 | Shelley | night cait |
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21:00 | sekjal | night, #koha! |
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21:04 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 334 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
21:11 | bg | NateC? |
21:11 | wahanui | I LIKE SPACE! |
21:12 | rangi | heh |
21:13 | wizzyrea | hehehe |
21:13 | rangi | https://ahuntsic.koha.ccsr.qc.[…]koha/opac-main.pl |
21:13 | nice | |
21:14 | jcamins | Have a good weekend, #koha |
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21:47 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #334: SUCCESS in 43 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/334/ |
21:47 | oleonard: Follow-up fixes for Bug 5917, Switch Koha to use Template::Toolkit | |
21:47 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5917 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Switch Koha to use Template::Toolkit |
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21:58 | jati | hi koha |
21:58 | I've a question about po files | |
21:59 | how can i update a po file, with contents of other po file, of version 3.0. It has to update in the new po file only the msg that match exactly, not the others | |
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