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00:01 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #323: SUCCESS in 42 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/323/ |
00:01 | * tajoli: Bug 5462: Update of the italian sql files The bug is about strings that are used as variables by Template::Toolkit The strings need to be like valid perl variable names. To fix the bug we need to fix also .sql files. Others .sql files are OK. Italian .sql file needs this fix | |
00:01 | * frederick.capovilla: Bug 5867 : Improved the email checking when sending "Hold filled" notices. | |
00:01 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5462 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Fix variable names so we dont break template::toolkit |
00:01 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5867 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, fcapovilla, ASSIGNED , "Hold filled" notice not sent by email if the user has its email address in a field other than "email" | |
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01:33 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 14 for job Koha_3.4.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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02:14 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.4.x build #14: SUCCESS in 40 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.4.x/14/ |
02:14 | * colin.campbell: Bug 2505: Suppress some warnings emitted by members-home.pl | |
02:14 | * oleonard: Revised fix for Bug 6133 - Authorised values administration, warn for modifs | |
02:14 | * oleonard: Fix for Bug 6573 - Library name entry field enforces unnecessary maxlength | |
02:14 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2505 major, P1, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , enable Perl warnings in all modules and scripts |
02:14 | jenkins_koha | * dpavlin: Bug 4994 - Net::LDAP returns lowercase names |
02:14 | * oleonard: Fix for Bug 6577 - columns misaligned on serials search results | |
02:14 | * oleonard: Fix for 6426 - messaging not showing on patron categories | |
02:14 | * oleonard: Fix for Bug 6570 - unlabeled box on funds form | |
02:14 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6133 trivial, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Authorised values administration, warn for modifs |
02:14 | jenkins_koha | * oleonard: Fix for Bug 6586 - calendar showing the wrong event type when editing |
02:14 | * oleonard: Fix for Bug 6587 - Tag moderation lost colors | |
02:14 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6573 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Library name entry field enforces unnecessary maxlength |
02:14 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4994 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, RESOLVED FIXED, ldap mapping inconsistancy: Net::LDAP returns lowercase names | |
02:14 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6577 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, RESOLVED FIXED, Columns misaligned on serials search results | |
02:14 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6570 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Unlabeled box on funds form | |
02:14 | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 4330] Copyright statements out of date <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4330> | |
02:14 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6586 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Calendar showing the wrong event type when editing | |
02:14 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6587 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Tag moderation lost colors | |
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02:47 | Brooke | kia ora |
02:48 | rangi | hi Brooke |
02:48 | Brooke | :) |
02:48 | jransom | hiya all |
02:48 | rangi | oh look its jransom |
02:48 | Brooke | fancy that |
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02:49 | rangi | and chrisdothall :) |
02:49 | chrisdothall | hey rangi! |
02:49 | rangi | chrisdothall: watcha doing on the 26th of july? |
02:49 | back at uni by then? | |
02:49 | chrisdothall | celebrating the day after my birthday, why? |
02:49 | im back at uni now :( | |
02:50 | rangi | ah dang |
02:50 | http://kete.library.org.nz/en/[…]ers-group-meeting | |
02:50 | Brooke | skive off! |
02:50 | jransom | yeah - taste real life! |
02:50 | Brooke | if I can risk deportation to protest things, you can skive off to get to a meeting ;P |
02:50 | chrisdothall | rangi: sadly I wont be able to make that :( |
02:50 | rangi | heh |
02:50 | ahh, next one ;) | |
02:52 | chrisdothall | if its not on a uni day, definitely :) |
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02:52 | jransom | so had an interesting half hour discussion with my daughter this morning about me going to Mumbai |
02:52 | druthb | o/ |
02:53 | jransom | and explaining how far away Thane was from Mumbai |
02:53 | heya Ruth | |
02:53 | Brooke | aye |
02:53 | rangi | heya druthb |
02:53 | jransom | and how we will be on a campus - a local campus |
02:53 | Brooke | and how they'll just target the Yank whore first? |
02:53 | jransom | and staying in a local hotel in thane not a big USA corporate hotel chain in the financial district |
02:53 | na - didn't say that out loud | |
02:54 | ;P | |
02:54 | :P | |
02:54 | * Brooke | yelps |
02:54 | druthb | hi, jransom, Brooke, and rangi. :) |
02:55 | jransom | 20 36 for the NZ Koha usert group meeting registered so far |
02:55 | 20 = so | |
02:55 | (don't know why I typed 20 ..) | |
02:55 | rangi | cool |
02:56 | eythian | I wonder if I'm registered. |
02:56 | I'll be there, anyway | |
02:57 | Brooke | clearly I needs start swimming |
02:57 | jransom | you are registered |
02:57 | or detour via NZ to KohaCon11? | |
02:58 | druthb | loooong detour. |
02:58 | Brooke | I would say that you people only let me on your soil for 3 months or so, but the maths works :P |
02:59 | jransom | so 10 days for a Kiwi to get a visa for India |
03:00 | Brooke | Indian visa? |
03:00 | wahanui | Indian visa is multi entry Tourist Visa *wink wink* *nudge nudge* |
03:00 | jransom | yes |
03:01 | Brooke | didja mail it in? |
03:01 | jransom | the tourist visa |
03:01 | will do | |
03:01 | Brooke | sucker go in person :P |
03:02 | Friday? | |
03:02 | wahanui | Friday is garlic orgy day in france! ;) |
03:02 | Brooke | wahanui forget Friday |
03:02 | wahanui | Brooke: I forgot friday |
03:03 | Brooke | wahanui friday is It's Friday, Friday Gotta get down on Friday |
03:03 | wahanui | OK, Brooke. |
03:03 | Brooke | Friday? |
03:03 | wahanui | Friday is probably It's Friday, Friday Gotta get down on Friday |
03:03 | druthb | Brooke? |
03:03 | wahanui | Brooke is deprecated |
03:03 | druthb | talljoy? |
03:03 | wahanui | hmmm... talljoy is magnificent! or tall. |
03:03 | Brooke | botsnack wahanui sultana cake |
03:03 | druthb | druthb? |
03:03 | wahanui | you are probably gonna be out the week of July 18-22, and you won't see much of her for a couple of weeks after that. |
03:03 | Brooke | wahanui botsnack sultana cake |
03:03 | wahanui | thanks Brooke :) |
03:06 | druthb | I was thinkin' of staying up and doing some things around here, but I don' think so. |
03:06 | Brooke | screw it, it's Friday ;) |
03:07 | rangi | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1aBrJxQ7uQ <-- watch that instead |
03:09 | Brooke | I've to uh slip you Christie singing Tunkashila if you like her voice. |
03:10 | druthb | some powerful pipes on that lead contralt.....zowie. gorgeous. |
03:10 | * Brooke | has been known to belt that in the car. |
03:11 | Brooke | oh my, whippin' off the cloaks! What would Auntie say? |
03:13 | rangi | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SblTKIZoInI |
03:17 | Brooke | http://www.washingtonpost.com/[…]tory.html?hpid=z3 |
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03:17 | Brooke | *cough* not that anyone reads that dross. |
03:26 | * druthb | is headed to bed. Be well. |
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04:00 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5453 : Move declarations out of conditionals <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]4deee12491febc4d3> / Bug 5453 Move declarations out of conditionals <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]c4b6912435d29704b> / Bug 5453 Move declarations out of conditionals in opac <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]koha.git;a=commit |
04:03 | eythian | packages for 3.4.2 are out. Get 'em while they're hot. |
04:03 | Brooke | eythian++ |
04:03 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 324 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
04:03 | Brooke | apt get a lager for eythian |
04:04 | bg | heh |
04:04 | * eythian | doesn't like lagers, in general |
04:04 | bg | apt-get a case for eythian |
04:04 | eythian | a nice IPA is much more preferable ;) |
04:04 | Brooke | fool! |
04:04 | bg | eythian: agreed |
04:04 | Brooke | you don't get him a case til you know what he drinks :P |
04:04 | * bg | sticks to ales |
04:04 | Brooke | mmmm |
04:04 | eythian | yep, that's largely my policy. |
04:05 | Brooke | Indian Pale Ale in India ftw |
04:06 | eythian | I wonder if they still actually exist in India |
04:06 | ibeardslee | hey .. where is my BOC email? |
04:07 | rangi | i think they are still setting up, much harder for them to do on level 7 |
04:07 | eythian | ibeardslee: I see the beer room filling up with people |
04:07 | rangi | altho i hear bottles opening |
04:07 | Brooke | you are all horrible teases. |
04:07 | Space_Librarian | ditto |
04:07 | rangi | i best go investiage |
04:07 | Space_Librarian | ditto. :) |
04:07 | rangi | investigate too |
04:07 | ibeardslee | yeh I think the sysadmin team had a team meeting that delayed the setup |
04:07 | eythian | I can see 4 or 5 people |
04:07 | Space_Librarian | where my meringues?! |
04:07 | eythian | I'm waiting for the kc/master packages to build |
04:12 | ibeardslee | yeah .. sorry while we were in the meeting room I was hungry |
04:13 | Space_Librarian | meh. sub-par meringues. I have to settle for chip rolls. |
04:13 | Brooke | /me starts drooling uncontrollably. |
04:16 | jransom | ok back for real this time |
04:17 | * Space_Librarian | goes back for another chip roll... |
04:17 | eythian | jransom: but it's beer o'clock time |
04:18 | jransom | if i was in wgtn i'd be drinking with you! |
04:18 | Space_Librarian | indeed you would be! |
04:23 | jransom | my daughter just bought me a splendid pirate hat for tomorrow's party! |
04:23 | Brooke | duhrectors aren't allowed pirate hats :P |
04:26 | jransom | oh yes |
04:26 | my only sorry is that a sweeping ostrick feather is not to be found on the main street of levin for love nor money | |
04:26 | had mills out scouring ... | |
04:26 | brought me back a feather boa and said wrap wire around it! | |
04:26 | eythian | hey folks, squeeze-dev now contains a package built from master. |
04:27 | Which means it's beer time now | |
04:27 | Brooke | cheers! |
04:27 | it is your solemn duty to drink at least one for me | |
04:27 | rough lot, but someone needs do it | |
04:28 | jransom | and drink for me too :) |
04:29 | eythian | I do have a 7:30am start tomorrow, you people! |
04:36 | Brooke | on a Saturday? |
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04:47 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #324: SUCCESS in 43 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/324/ |
04:47 | * colin.campbell: Bug 5453 Do not declare variables in conditionals | |
04:47 | * colin.campbell: Bug 5453: Move declarations out of conditionals | |
04:47 | * colin.campbell: Bug 5453: Move declarations from within conditionals in catalogue/search.pl | |
04:47 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5453 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Variables declaration should not occur in conditionals |
04:47 | jenkins_koha | * colin.campbell: Bug 5453 Move declarations out of conditionals |
04:47 | * colin.campbell: Bug 5453 Move declarations out of conditionals in opac | |
04:47 | * colin.campbell: Bug 5453 Move declarations out of conditionals | |
04:47 | * colin.campbell: Bug 5453 : Move declarations out of conditionals | |
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04:51 | Brooke | @seen kmkale |
04:51 | huginn | Brooke: kmkale was last seen in #koha 2 weeks, 1 day, 21 hours, 29 minutes, and 35 seconds ago: <kmkale> bye slef and thanks |
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04:53 | jransom | can anyone help with a friday aftewrnoon sql query? |
04:54 | Space_Librarian | jransom: I was about to offer to go pull rangi from his beer for you. |
04:54 | jransom | not that urgently - stdc need help |
04:54 | Space_Librarian | and it's not in the wiki? |
04:55 | jransom | no - not getting what i want |
04:55 | Space_Librarian | hrmmm |
04:55 | jransom | what they want ... |
04:55 | stdc | |
04:56 | Space_Librarian | yep. pondering bugging rangi. |
04:56 | it's not 5pm yet. :p | |
04:56 | Brooke | try here first? |
04:56 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]L_Reports_Library | |
04:56 | Space_Librarian | Brooke: that's what i asked |
04:56 | Brooke | doh |
04:57 | I'd tell ye to pester Nora, but she's not up this hour, I think. | |
04:57 | jransom | yeah - thetyyh want a report detailing all outstanding amounts owing , and grouped by corrower category |
04:58 | stdc are not allowed access to irc!!! | |
04:58 | Space_Librarian | what?! |
04:58 | * Space_Librarian | is surprised |
04:58 | Brooke | Bolshevism! ;) |
04:59 | jransom | yep - they wwere allowed for go live week only |
04:59 | Space_Librarian | I have espied eythian... |
04:59 | and food. I will go query. | |
05:00 | jransom | really - he will be grumpy |
05:00 | Space_Librarian | yep. i decided against it |
05:01 | jransom | good call |
05:01 | Space_Librarian | can they send an email to the list? |
05:01 | jransom | yup |
05:01 | Space_Librarian | they'll have something by Monday that way. |
05:01 | Or tomorrow. | |
05:01 | wahanui | tomorrow is pizza friday! |
05:01 | Space_Librarian | hopefully |
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05:02 | Space_Librarian | eythian recommends the email the list approach. Accounts are tricky |
05:03 | jransom | excellent |
05:03 | Brooke has suggested a scrtipt that Nicole wrote | |
05:03 | thanks | |
05:04 | how the hell she is meant to do herjob without the intrerenet ./ irc / twitter is hard to imagine | |
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05:05 | Space_Librarian | jransom: I agree |
05:05 | chrisdothall long time no see | |
05:05 | Brooke | I could see that in a prison setting |
05:05 | chrisdothall | hey Space_Librarian :) I have been lurking here on and off |
05:06 | Space_Librarian | how's things? good? :) |
05:07 | chrisdothall | I have been diagnosed with OOS in my wrists, but they are getting better :) How are things on your end? |
05:08 | Space_Librarian | Ah, the joys of too long in frnot of a keyboard. Things are on the up and up. If you had time of the 26th, I'd be suggesting you come up to levin for the unconference. |
05:08 | chrisdothall | yeah, and bad mouse habits haha. |
05:08 | * Space_Librarian | has a trackball mouse now due to oos |
05:08 | chrisdothall | rangi mentioned that before when I logged in, sadly I have university that day and I have to go as it is a marked lab |
05:09 | * chrisdothall | also uses a trackball now :p |
05:09 | Space_Librarian | trackball rocks. |
05:09 | yeah, marked labs are a pain. | |
05:09 | chrisdothall | Im also in the process of 'making' a split keyboard so when I type my wrists will be more seperated. |
05:09 | although I often tense my arm while using the trackball, but im working on it :p | |
05:10 | Space_Librarian | got one of those as well. Helps greatly |
05:10 | chrisdothall | you have a split keyboard? :o |
05:10 | Space_Librarian | I do. |
05:10 | * chrisdothall | is very jealous |
05:11 | Space_Librarian | if you go through disabilities at uni, they should issue you with one. |
05:11 | they are required to if you're diagnosed with oos | |
05:11 | and offer you voice recognition software | |
05:11 | * chrisdothall | wasnt aware of such |
05:13 | Brooke | make sure the stupid little clicky feet are off |
05:14 | basically the trick is to sit higher than you type | |
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05:14 | chrisdothall | yeah, for a while I had a really bad chair with a back that offered next to no support |
05:14 | Space_Librarian | that never helps |
05:14 | Brooke | get a yoga ball |
05:14 | they ROCK | |
05:14 | chrisdothall | my current chair is still a little lower than I would have liked, so I will be looking into that aswell |
05:15 | I bought some off 1day, but they ended up being lost by the courier >.> | |
05:15 | I do wonder how they would work out with no back support and all | |
05:15 | Brooke | have you considered beating your courier? |
05:15 | Space_Librarian | not cool |
05:15 | Brooke | I was surprised with mine |
05:15 | Space_Librarian | i never found a swiss ball to help me |
05:15 | Brooke | I can go about 2-3 hours |
05:15 | then I've to get up | |
05:16 | but I should be up by then anyhow | |
05:16 | chrisdothall | which is good in itself. |
05:16 | yeah the courier delivered to the wrong numbered house, on an entirely different street, in a different suburb.... | |
05:16 | Brooke | ha! |
05:16 | chrisdothall | then when they went to retreive it, no one was home for weeks on end. I suspect they fled the country with my 2 yoga balls... |
05:17 | Brooke | ha! |
05:17 | when I used to live in the ghetto | |
05:17 | chrisdothall | Space_Librarian: so did you try a swiss ball then? |
05:17 | Brooke | I more often than not picked stuff up at the depot. |
05:18 | Space_Librarian | I've tried everything. |
05:18 | even those weird kneeling chairs | |
05:18 | Brooke | including a standing desk? |
05:18 | chrisdothall | I dont know if they let you just march in, unless they miss the delivery the first time that is. |
05:18 | Space_Librarian | never had that option, Brooke |
05:18 | chrisdothall | I am interested in a standing desk, seems very tiring though. |
05:18 | Brooke | cookies are the solution to everything Chris ;) |
05:18 | chrisdothall | cookies? haha |
05:19 | march in with a jar, offer to trade for package> | |
05:19 | Brooke | now you're on the trolley. |
05:19 | chrisdothall | haha |
05:19 | Brooke | even works on the FBI |
05:19 | hey, I have this greasy bag with me and I'd like to see so and so. Clearly I belong here. | |
05:20 | * Brooke | used to make a killing as a delivery driver. |
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06:08 | cait | morning #koha |
06:09 | hi hdl and chrisdothall :) | |
06:09 | chrisdothall | hey cait :) |
06:09 | cait | nice to see you are back :) |
06:10 | hdl | hi chrisdothall and cait |
06:10 | and all | |
06:11 | chrisdothall | hey :) |
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06:40 | reiveune | hello |
06:47 | * rangi | waves |
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07:16 | julian | hello #koha |
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07:23 | kf | hi #koha |
07:24 | BobB | Hi kf |
07:24 | Starting work for the day? | |
07:28 | kf | hi BobB - yes :) |
07:28 | BobB | Just on time to finish here. :) |
07:35 | kf | greetings to Irma :) |
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07:36 | kf | Oak |
07:36 | Oak | kf |
07:36 | hello #koha | |
07:43 | kf | @wunder Konstanz |
07:43 | huginn | kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 16.3�C (9:40 AM CEST on July 15, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1020.9 hPa (Steady). |
07:44 | Oak | @wunder islamabad |
07:44 | huginn | Oak: The current temperature in Islamabad, Pakistan is 31.0�C (12:00 PM PKT on July 15, 2011). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 25.0�C. Pressure: 29.53 in 1000 hPa (Steady). |
07:44 | kf | big difference |
07:44 | Oak | yup |
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10:08 | kf | morning druthb :) |
10:09 | druthb | o/ |
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10:28 | SitHa | Hello, everybody |
10:29 | I am wondering how to interface Koha and Drupal. I googled a bit but didn't find anything precise. Could someone please help ? | |
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10:35 | SitHa | Just a link would be great. |
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10:59 | kf | SitHa: do you mean Sopac? |
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11:29 | SitHa | kf: not sure. Is that the only way ? |
11:33 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 15 for job Koha_3.4.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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11:37 | slef | hi all |
11:39 | SitHa | hi slef |
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11:44 | kf | SitHa: not sure too - but I think sopac is a drubal thing - so thought about it when you mentioned it |
11:44 | hi slef | |
11:44 | I think I killed my koha dev installation at work | |
11:44 | someone an idea about: Can't locate LWP/UserAgent.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /home/koha/kohaclone /etc/perl /usr/local? | |
11:47 | will poke around a bit more | |
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11:58 | kf | missing package - works now :) |
11:58 | hi Guillaume and JesseM :) | |
11:59 | JesseM | Hi kf! |
12:06 | SitHa | okkf, thanks |
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12:13 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.4.x build #15: SUCCESS in 40 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.4.x/15/ |
12:13 | robin: Bug 6361 - make the packages work with koha 3.4 | |
12:13 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6361 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, robin, ASSIGNED , Packages need support for the 3.4 upgrade |
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12:56 | * Oak | waves |
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15:05 | reiveune | bye |
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15:10 | library_systems_guy1 | morning Koha |
15:10 | sekjal | morning, library_systems_guy1 |
15:13 | library_systems_guy1 | grr that one...i must still be signed in at home |
15:15 | sekjal have you been working on hourly loans at all? | |
15:15 | i tried to check out colins branch last night without much success | |
15:15 | rhcl | its AM libsysguy and sekjal |
15:16 | library_systems_guy1 | rhcl: that is totally what I should change my name to |
15:16 | brb... | |
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15:18 | * libsysguy | feels like a new man |
15:18 | sekjal | libsysguy: ByWater is working with Catalyst on Hourly Loans, but I haven't gotten down to testing the code just yet |
15:19 | libsysguy | do you have a branch that we could pull to "assist" with testing? |
15:20 | our circulation librarian is going to spontaneously combust if she has to do reserves by hand | |
15:27 | sekjal | libsysguy: have you looked here: http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?[…]fs/heads/bug_5549 |
15:29 | the "depends on" bugs linked off of bug 5549 contain the incremental patches required to build a branch on your local machine | |
15:29 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5549 enhancement, P5, ---, ian.walls, ASSIGNED , Hourly Loans |
15:30 | libsysguy | ahh i gotcha |
15:41 | kf | sekjal: have you looked at colin's branch? I wonder how hard it will be to get both together |
15:41 | sekjal | kf: haven't checked it yet, no |
15:41 | kf | k |
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15:45 | kf | I was looking at bug 2453 |
15:45 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2453 critical, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , (very) large biblio/item handling |
15:45 | kf | can this be closed? |
15:48 | sekjal | I think so... if you use -x on the rebuild_zebra.pl script, it should work fine |
15:49 | gmcharlt | yes |
15:49 | kf | gmcharlt: cool :) |
15:50 | one bug less - good time to start the weekend :) | |
15:50 | gmcharlt | there is one more potential improvement that could be made, namely tweaking how the marcxml blobs are handled by C4::Search so that we grab the current item information from mysql rather than zebra when rendering search results |
15:50 | but that can certainly be the topic of a separate bug | |
15:51 | kf | I will add tehe chat to the bug and close it |
15:53 | slef | is it documented that -x is needed for large handling? Should -x be the default cronjob? |
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16:01 | kf | bye all :) |
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16:08 | rhcl | ping wizzyrea |
16:16 | sekjal | hey, all, soliciting opinions about bug 6483 |
16:16 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6483 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, salva, ASSIGNED , Paging in opac-detail when coming from a search |
16:16 | sekjal | I think it should be an opt-in, syspref controlled feature. there are other opinions noted on the ticket |
16:17 | wanted to see if anyone hear cared to comment, too | |
16:17 | s/hear/here/ | |
16:18 | oleonard | sekjal: I think if you can picture your customers howling about this being added without their consent then it needs a pref |
16:19 | On the other hand, it's the kind of thing that could easily be hidden by CSS pending the addition of a pref | |
16:20 | sekjal | I think the primary debate now is not so much whether is should be syspref controlled, as whether the initial patch should include that before being committed |
16:21 | rhcl | Senior Staff here agree its a good feature (pagination), but have no input on implementation. We would even say it should be opt-out. |
16:22 | oleonard | I defer to the judgement of those with customers on this one. I wouldn't object to it being added without a syspref initially. |
16:24 | jcamins_away | I think that it would be reasonable to use CSS for hiding it, in the rare situations where it needs to be hidden. |
16:25 | sekjal | okay, so if the bug report can be updated with the CSS string needed to hide this feature, should anyone desire, then I think it can be pushed through QA |
16:25 | and a separate bug report filed for the syspref | |
16:26 | which will be "opt-out", since the initial default behavior was to show | |
16:27 | would hate to get people dependent on it, then have it disappear when they upgraded | |
16:27 | * oleonard | thinks of all those library patrons with the shakes |
16:28 | jcamins_away | sekjal: has anyone said they *didn't* want the feature? I'm having trouble imagining where one might want to disable it. |
16:29 | sekjal | jcamins_away: I've only heard it asked for, but I can imagine there being SOMEONE out there who would prefer to leave it out. |
16:30 | oooh, and another enhancement idea: keyboard shortcuts to the "next" and "prev" links | |
16:30 | oleonard | .nav_results { display: none; } |
16:30 | sekjal | awesome |
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16:35 | jcamins_away | I'm glad I have my air conditioning set to 78. |
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16:36 | jcamins | If I had it set to something else, perhaps it would turn on and cool the room from 84. |
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16:39 | magnuse | kia ora #koha |
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16:56 | rhcl | hi magnuse |
17:01 | humm, another symphony goes koha | |
17:01 | libsysguy | oo oo who? |
17:02 | rhcl | Plum Creek Library - just popped up on the Koha list |
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17:06 | libsysguy | rhcl: where is that list? |
17:06 | im just curious | |
17:08 | rhcl | kohalists.katipo.co.nz |
17:08 | libsysguy | doh |
17:09 | i thought it was like a list on koha-community.org | |
17:09 | silly me | |
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17:19 | magnuse | libsysguy: closest you get is this: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]a_Users_Worldwide |
17:20 | and hi rhcl :-) | |
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17:52 | cait | hi #koha |
17:52 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6590] Removing hyphens from isbn and issn when cataloging a biblio <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6590> |
17:52 | magnuse | guten abend cait |
17:53 | cait | hi magnuse :) |
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18:12 | magnuse | o/ |
18:13 | druthb | o/ |
18:14 | oleonard-away | |-o-| |
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18:14 | magnuse | ooh, tie-fighter? |
18:15 | sekjal | <-o-> |
18:15 | druthb | \o/ |
18:16 | * druthb | runs away from Darth Sekjal |
18:17 | * cait | tries to remember the model name |
18:19 | magnuse | sekjal: if you ever have the time, could you have a look at bug 6537 to see if my methodology is "not unsound"? i don't want to spend time doing the missing (routine) bits if you can say just by looking at it that it will not pass qa... |
18:19 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6537 enhancement, P5, ---, magnus, ASSIGNED , Simplified sysprefs for the web installer |
18:20 | sekjal | cait: TIE Advanced x1 |
18:21 | * cait | nods |
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18:25 | sekjal | magnuse: reading RFC now |
18:25 | magnuse | sekjal: yay! |
18:26 | sekjal | so, it looks like the plan is to make a single, master sysprefs file, and then language-specific SQL files that change any text to match the language, or default values to match common practices for the region most likely to install that language |
18:26 | this would greatly simplify the process of adding a new system preference. | |
18:27 | and since the preferences editor's text is now based off the .pref files instead of the descriptions in the DB (except for Local Use sysprefs), that would be translated automatically when running the .po files | |
18:27 | magnuse | yeah, that sounds like a good description |
18:27 | * cait | thinks magnuse is a genius |
18:28 | * druthb | agrees. |
18:29 | sekjal | and within the different language directories, we could subdivide further to have different "change" files for public libraries, academic libraries, consortia, etc. |
18:29 | magnuse | yup |
18:29 | * magnuse | blushes |
18:30 | sekjal | very cool. the end result would simplify life for developers, and make it clearer for those installing the software what they're getting as default preference values |
18:32 | cait | and enable us to have different easy to maintain sets for library types :) |
18:32 | I love the idea :) | |
18:33 | sekjal | yeah, I'm all for |
18:33 | magnuse | cool! |
18:33 | sekjal | we can't quite remove the explanation or options columns yet until we completely remove the old syspref editor |
18:34 | that's still lingering until we can think of a way to add in Local Use sysprefs | |
18:34 | but I've got an idea for that | |
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18:34 | magnuse | what i'm most worried about is this bit: http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]hment.cgi?id=4525 - making the web installer pick up the default syspref.sql - it works but i'm unsure if there is some better way to accomplish it... |
18:35 | ok, i wont change the database structure (yay, less work for me!) | |
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18:37 | magnuse | thanks for having a look sekjal, i'll slog through the tedious bits now before i submit a full patch, hopefully in the next couple days |
18:38 | sekjal | magnuse: what you're doing in attachment 4525 is how it's done for loading kohastructure.sql, so I think that's the right way (would be consistent, if anything) |
18:38 | huginn | 03Attachment http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]=4525&action=edit patch, Proof-of-concept patch 2/3, 0002-Bug-6537-Make-the-web-installer-use-installer-data-m.patch |
18:39 | magnuse | sekjal: cool, thanks |
18:39 | sekjal | np :) |
18:39 | magnuse | hey, i didn't know you could get huginn to that... |
18:41 | cait | sekjal++ magnuse++ |
18:41 | magnuse | sekjal++ |
18:42 | sekjal | magnuse++ (you're the one doing the work) |
18:44 | magnuse | yay |
18:52 | sekjal: you took the time to do an "early assessment" ;-) | |
18:55 | sekjal | :) |
18:56 | * oleonard | shouts Attachment 3 ! |
18:56 | huginn | 03Attachment 3 was not found or is not accessible. |
18:56 | wahanui | i already had it that way, huginn. |
18:56 | * oleonard | shouts Attachment 3236 ! |
18:56 | huginn | 03Attachment http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]=3236&action=edit patch, Proposed patch, 0001-Fixing-problems-with-quotes-when-constructing-z3950-.patch |
18:57 | * magnuse | whispers attachment 4540 |
18:57 | huginn | 03Attachment http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]=4540&action=edit patch, Patch (functionality), patch.txt |
18:58 | magnuse | see, you don't have to shout ;-) |
18:58 | sekjal | switching mental gears: what would folks say about indexing every single MARC field and subfield into their own searchable indexes, in addition to what we've already got? |
18:58 | so if you specifically want 690$f, you can search for it | |
18:59 | * magnuse | thinks that sounds intriguing... |
18:59 | magnuse | 2.2.9 had that |
18:59 | sekjal | we've got several partners who want to index some of the "local use" fields in MARC, and there isn't any good way to do that right now with mucking in zebra config files |
19:00 | but if we could provide a "back door" to access any given MARC field, that would go a long way towards helping with those kinds of local needs | |
19:00 | cait | hm, think it would need a lot of disk space probably |
19:00 | sekjal | hmmm, yes |
19:00 | cait | the indexes get vey big right not |
19:00 | now | |
19:00 | not that I don't like the idea :) | |
19:00 | I do like it | |
19:00 | sekjal | and if someone wanted 590$a and 591$a into the same index, that wouldn't work |
19:01 | cait | I think dom indexing was talked abou too? |
19:01 | and rewriting Search.pm | |
19:01 | sekjal | cait: yes, we're moving forward getting DOM indexing for biblios |
19:01 | cait | ... lots of unused potential |
19:01 | oh cool :) | |
19:01 | magnuse | yeah, the overhead of it would be one thing to worry about... |
19:01 | sekjal | still have some details to nail down, but we've got committed funding |
19:02 | cait | whoohoo |
19:02 | magnuse | yay |
19:02 | cait | sekjal: I was once told that authority integration into search would be doable with dom indexing (long long ago so I might not remember correctly) |
19:02 | is that part of the plans? | |
19:02 | sekjal | cait: integration how? |
19:03 | cait | what people are used to here is that you search for one writing form of tschaikowsky and all turn up |
19:03 | sekjal | one thing we're looking to do is be able to match biblio fields to authorities based on the text in the biblio field itself, not a control number in $9 |
19:03 | cait | using the see also and see forms from the uathorities |
19:03 | to expand search I think - or perhaps look it up in authorities and use the id for searching | |
19:03 | hm, I think the text is not good | |
19:04 | sekjal | I think what you're talking about will indeed be possible. I'll see if it can be worked into the spec |
19:04 | I'd REALLY like to see that, as would some of our partners | |
19:04 | cait | standard would be $0 instead of $9 |
19:05 | but I know our situation is special | |
19:05 | we get all authorities from the union catalog and natonal databases | |
19:05 | all nice linked together using id numbers | |
19:06 | but that's a discussion I had with jcamins before :) | |
19:07 | sekjal | the order of the subfields in, say, MARC21's 650, should be enough to uniquely determine which authority to connect it to, right? |
19:07 | cait | hm not always |
19:07 | take müller or smith | |
19:08 | I mean what do you do when it's the same name | |
19:08 | or is informaton like profession and dates also stored in the heading? | |
19:09 | jcamins | cait: if only we all used subject headings like the DNB's! |
19:09 | cait | um |
19:10 | jcamins | Not the Dictionary of National Biography. |
19:10 | cait | not sure I know enough abou it |
19:10 | jcamins | I had it right. Deutsche Nationale Bibliothek. :) |
19:10 | However it's spelled. | |
19:11 | Sorry. My German spelling is atrocious. | |
19:11 | cait | it's only the model I am used to |
19:11 | jcamins | I know. |
19:11 | And I'm jealous. | |
19:11 | rhcl | so suppose somebody added a small solid state drive (32 gig or something) to a Koha server. Would it be possible to direct indexing to that from within Koha? (Suspect a hard wire coding would be bad design) |
19:12 | cait | jcamins: so you are not making fun of me? |
19:12 | jcamins | cait: no. |
19:12 | I'm saying, if only everyone had subject headings like the DNB's, we wouldn't have this problem. | |
19:13 | (not that the German model is perfect, mind you, but at least it's designed with computers in mind) | |
19:13 | magnuse | sounds like a good start... |
19:15 | jcamins | Ack! Meeting in fifteen minutes! I got distracted working on a response to sekjal's e-mail. |
19:15 | cait | yes, I am sure it has flaws too. but I don't mind much how we improve the current situaton - as long as it doesn't break it for us :P |
19:16 | jcamins | sekjal: capsule summary: includes are expensive, from my point of view. Better to do something like with the MARC21 auth DOM configuration, and add a helper script to the packages. |
19:16 | Bye! | |
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19:17 | jcamins_away | sekjal: that's for DOM. |
19:17 | Includes are broken for GRS-1. | |
19:18 | sekjal: at least, they were broken a year ago. | |
19:21 | cait | includes? |
19:21 | wahanui | includes are broken for GRS-1. |
19:21 | * druthb | pokes wahanui in the ribs. |
19:22 | magnuse | heh |
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19:26 | cait | includes = the thing I want for authorities? |
19:29 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5436] Extended patron attributes display improvements <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5436> |
19:35 | jcamins_away | cait, no, sorry, that's in response to sekhal's email. |
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19:35 | libsysguy | sekjal you around? |
19:36 | sekjal | libsysguy: one moment, in a meeting |
19:36 | libsysguy | you got it |
19:37 | cait | going by libsysguy permanently now? :) |
19:37 | libsysguy | yeah but only so nengard will talk to me |
19:37 | lol | |
19:39 | slef | wizzyrea: "Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 134217728 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 2171771 bytes) in /home/koha-community/public_html/wp-includes/functions.php on line 1038" |
19:39 | happens fairly consistently :( | |
19:40 | @seen wizzyrea | |
19:40 | huginn | slef: wizzyrea was last seen in #koha 21 hours, 40 minutes, and 15 seconds ago: <wizzyrea> farewell for now friends |
19:41 | slef | @later tell wizzyrea "Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 134217728 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 2171771 bytes) in /home/koha-community/public_html/wp-includes/functions.php on line 1038" - happens fairly consistently :( |
19:41 | huginn | slef: The operation succeeded. |
19:41 | slef | thanks huginn |
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20:13 | rhcl | ping gmcharlt |
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21:16 | jcamins | sekjal: what I was trying to get at earlier is that apply-templates is better than call-template, and the fewer templates there are that match a given element, the fewer traversals are necessary. |
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21:21 | cait | good night all |
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21:42 | libsysguy | can somebody tell me how to apply the patches from bug 5549 here: http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?[…]fs/heads/bug_5549 |
21:42 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5549 enhancement, P5, ---, ian.walls, ASSIGNED , Hourly Loans |
21:44 | libsysguy | I realized that was a poorly constructed sentence so if it was confusing just let me know |
21:44 | jcamins | libsysguy: fetch that branch, then cherry-pick the patches you want. |
21:45 | libsysguy | ok so for a git newb, how do i fetch a branch? |
21:48 | magnuse | http://www.kernel.org/pub/soft[…]s/git-remote.html |
21:49 | libsysguy | git never ceases to amaze me |
21:49 | magnuse | something like: git remote add catalyst git://git.catalyst.net.nz/koha.git |
21:49 | git++ | |
21:50 | libsysguy | indeed g++ magnuse++ |
21:50 | magnuse | not sure about the cherry picking, though... jcamins? |
21:50 | http://www.kernel.org/pub/soft[…]-cherry-pick.html | |
21:51 | jcamins | git log catalyst/bug_5549 |
21:51 | (identify the patches you want) | |
21:51 | git cherry-pick ${THOSE_PATCHES} | |
21:51 | libsysguy | wow...i never would have thought cherry pick would have been an actual command |
21:53 | magnuse | hehe |
21:54 | libsysguy | ok guys...time to hit the gym...thanks for the tips |
21:54 | jcamins++ also :D | |
21:55 | later #Koha | |
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