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| 00:25 | Brooke | see ya |
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| 00:45 | jcamins_away | @later tell larryb If you're still having trouble with packages, it looks like running apt-get update and deleting your kohabuild directory may solve the problems. |
| 00:45 | huginn | jcamins_away: The operation succeeded. |
| 00:49 | jcamins_away | @later tell larryb Also, sudo pbuilder update. |
| 00:49 | huginn | jcamins_away: The operation succeeded. |
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| 01:56 | glernil | good day! |
| 01:57 | my mail server is always sending me a message with the following content | |
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| 01:57 | glernil | Can't locate C4/Context.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.10.1 /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.1 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.10 /usr/share/perl/5.10 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at /usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl line 6. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/rebuild |
| 01:57 | what should I do? | |
| 01:58 | Is this a major problem? | |
| 01:58 | jcamins_away | glernil: you'll need to set PERL5LIB correctly. |
| 01:59 | glernil | how should i do that? |
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| 01:59 | jcamins_away | Read the documentation. |
| 01:59 | INSTALL.debian. | |
| 01:59 | (in the tar.gz file. | |
| 02:00 | I am on a saturated connection. Sorry about the terseness. | |
| 02:00 | glernil | ok i'll check it then |
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| 02:29 | jcamins_away | Isn't there a way to have the packages use a pre-populated database? |
| 03:00 | eythian | jcamins_away: yes, there is |
| 03:01 | jcamins_away | eythian! How are you? |
| 03:02 | eythian | Not too bad. A bit sleepy :) |
| 03:02 | jcamins_away | Isn't it mid-day or so? |
| 03:02 | eythian | 3pm |
| 03:02 | jcamins_away | Ah, time for a post-prandial snooze. |
| 03:03 | eythian | also still feeling the flight home a little bit. |
| 03:05 | jcamins_away | How would I use a pre-existing database? |
| 03:06 | The database is called koha_${NAME}, because I liked that idea from the Debian packages. | |
| 03:06 | eythian | are you running the packages? Because if you are, you can do koha-dump-defaults |
| 03:06 | jcamins_away | No, I had a git install from way back. |
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| 03:07 | eythian | ah OK. In that case, have a look at what koha-dump-defaults does, and do that by hand :) |
| 03:07 | it's pretty much just mysqldump with a few other bits. | |
| 03:08 | jcamins_away | Okay, that looks pretty straightforward. |
| 03:09 | I guess it's unfortunate that I called my database koha_${NAME}. | |
| 03:09 | eythian | it shouldn't matter really |
| 03:09 | jcamins_away | I'll have to reload it into a different database so that I have a backup in case something goes wrong. |
| 03:10 | eythian | just make an sql dump and put that somewhere safe |
| 03:14 | * eythian | makes summoning motions |
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| 03:15 | * eythian | stops waving his arms |
| 03:15 | eythian | wahanui: welcome back |
| 03:15 | wahanui | eythian: huh? |
| 03:16 | jcamins_away | Hooray! |
| 03:16 | eythian++ | |
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| 03:28 | jcamins_away | ]]]]]]] |
| 03:28 | Myshkin says "hi, eythian and wahanui! We missed you!" | |
| 03:31 | wahanui: Myshkin? | |
| 03:31 | wahanui | i heard Myshkin was more than articulate enough without me performing his interior monologue. |
| 03:31 | jcamins_away | :D |
| 03:41 | eythian | http://grooveshark.com/album/T[…]ce+Engine/5225045 <-- music for you all. Can't remember if I've posted this here before. If I have, you should listen to it again. |
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| 03:45 | rangi | hi pauln |
| 03:46 | pauln | Hi Chris |
| 03:46 | Do you know if im on the right track with the z39 thing for fed searching? | |
| 03:47 | or oaipmh like lori suggested? | |
| 03:47 | rangi | yep i reckon so |
| 03:47 | it depends what you are going to search it from | |
| 03:48 | pauln | from waihi college catalogue |
| 03:49 | rangi | smart new things, can do sru/sw or ils-di (oai-pmh isnt for searching, but harvesting, a bit different) |
| 03:49 | old things can talk z3950 | |
| 03:49 | i suspect whatever they are running would be more happy with Z3950 | |
| 03:50 | pauln | yep they're on access it i think |
| 03:50 | and use z39 for cataloguing | |
| 03:50 | rangi | assuming access it can do federated searching, then that oughta work just fine :) |
| 03:50 | oh hey | |
| 03:50 | wahanui | hello, rangi |
| 03:50 | rangi | are you coming to the user group meeting? |
| 03:51 | pauln | yep, 3 of us |
| 03:51 | rangi | sweet |
| 03:52 | stdc are, and rangitikei and waitaki | |
| 03:52 | so a good number of public librarians | |
| 03:52 | plus opus, plant and food and a few others .. should be a good day | |
| 03:53 | pauln | sounds good - levin is a bit of a pain to get to but |
| 03:53 | rangi | *nod* |
| 03:53 | pauln | but worth it when you get there;) |
| 03:54 | rangi | nice to have the innagrual meeting at the first koha library |
| 03:54 | we can move it around from then on ;-) | |
| 03:54 | pauln | too true - yep Don suggested up our way next time |
| 03:54 | rangi | yeah, good idea |
| 03:55 | in summer :) | |
| 03:55 | pauln | agreed its no winter wonderland here |
| 03:57 | so will i do a Wr for you to turn on the z39? | |
| 03:57 | rangi | sounds good, it will need it help again, to forward a port through the firewall |
| 03:57 | IT even | |
| 04:00 | pauln | it is more like it |
| 04:00 | rangi | heh |
| 04:00 | pauln | they refuse to look at the config file -s aid it would be easier and faster for you to do it |
| 04:01 | rangi | ahh |
| 04:01 | pauln | which is true, but we paying them a lot in overheads |
| 04:02 | rangi | it should take less than an hour, just need to know what port they want it to listen on (or i can just pick one and they can forward to that) |
| 04:05 | pauln | wr done. manual says port 9999 or is that just a space holder? |
| 04:05 | rangi | yeah, it can be anything |
| 04:05 | 9999 works | |
| 04:06 | pauln | 9999 it is |
| 04:06 | was looking at our web stats yesterday and a reasonable flow of traffic coming from onl and catalyst sites | |
| 04:07 | rangi | oh interesting |
| 04:07 | wahanui | hmmm... interesting is good |
| 04:08 | pauln | 50 visitors in 6 months |
| 04:08 | rangi | cool |
| 04:08 | mostly .nz ? | |
| 04:15 | pauln | think so - still learning google analytics speak |
| 04:22 | righto - see ya | |
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| 05:06 | francharb | hello #koha |
| 05:06 | cait | morning francharb :) |
| 05:06 | francharb | hi cait |
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| 06:38 | kf | morning #koha |
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| 06:46 | reiveune | hello |
| 06:49 | julian | hi! |
| 06:49 | kf | hi reiveune and julian |
| 06:50 | reiveune | hi kf |
| 06:50 | sophie_m | hello |
| 06:50 | wahanui | niihau, sophie_m |
| 06:50 | kf | hi sophie_m |
| 06:51 | sophie_m | Guten Morgen kf :-) |
| 06:51 | kf | :) |
| 06:52 | sophie_m | Gewitter heute in Süd Frankreich |
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| 07:04 | kf | sophie_m: hier gab es heute Nacht viel Gewitter |
| 07:04 | lizardking337 | hi |
| 07:04 | i have a problem with koha installition | |
| 07:05 | i use version of 3.4.1 | |
| 07:05 | when i start web installition | |
| 07:05 | koha wait on step 1 | |
| 07:06 | koha-error log is; | |
| 07:06 | Use of uninitialized value in string eq | |
| 07:06 | etc. | |
| 07:07 | i search it on google but didnt find any solution | |
| 07:07 | any ideas? | |
| 07:09 | http://paste.koha-community.org/92 | |
| 07:10 | i create database as manually with kohastructure.sql | |
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| 07:34 | kf | hm |
| 07:34 | lizardking337: current stable version is 3.4.2 | |
| 07:35 | not sure if there was a problem with the installer for 3.4.1 | |
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| 07:48 | lizardking337 | i 'll try 3.4.2 as soon as |
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| 08:25 | lizardking337 | in 3.4.2 errors still continue |
| 08:25 | any idea? | |
| 08:28 | kf | sorry no, never seen that |
| 08:28 | and until then your installation went smoothly? | |
| 08:28 | all dependencies installed? | |
| 08:29 | and you created the database manually after the errors occured? or before that? | |
| 08:29 | the web installer is supposed to create all tables and install sample files for you | |
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| 08:53 | lizardking337 | when i try without creating database manually |
| 08:53 | i tried web install | |
| 08:53 | kf | you have to create the database - but not create any tables |
| 08:53 | lizardking337 | but it didnt create any table on database |
| 08:53 | yes | |
| 08:54 | kf | just an empty database the web installer can acces |
| 08:54 | s | |
| 08:54 | so which error message did you get? | |
| 08:54 | if it didn't create the tables perhaps your data to access mysql is wrong | |
| 08:54 | lizardking337 | one minute i'll take errors |
| 08:58 | http://paste.koha-community.org/93 | |
| 08:58 | that is error log | |
| 09:03 | i create database with defaul kohaadmin user | |
| 09:03 | and password is correct | |
| 09:04 | kf | hm |
| 09:04 | I think something went wrong there on one step | |
| 09:04 | I think I would start over | |
| 09:05 | running the make process again, checking all my settings are correct, recreating the database | |
| 09:05 | looking out for missing modules | |
| 09:06 | lizardking337 | checked all my setting |
| 09:07 | i doubt a missin modules | |
| 09:07 | where is the all list of perl modules requirenments | |
| 09:12 | i create a database as "koha" | |
| 09:12 | add a user as "kohaadmin" | |
| 09:12 | and add all privileges to kohaadmin for koha database | |
| 09:16 | but when start web install i get that errors | |
| 09:17 | kf | when you run make it ormally tells you about missingmodules at the end |
| 09:17 | after answering the questions | |
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| 10:33 | druthb | o/ |
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| 12:09 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
| 12:09 | JesseM | Mornin oleonard |
| 12:15 | oleonard | Anyone up to any Koha fun today? |
| 12:16 | kf | hm? |
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| 12:31 | * kf | has fun with issuingrules |
| 12:32 | talljoy | morning kf |
| 12:37 | kf | hi talljoy :) |
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| 13:24 | * oleonard | doesn't understand what Bug 6584 is about |
| 13:24 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6584 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, m.de.rooy, ASSIGNED , Enable searching on Zebra's Bib-level index |
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| 13:31 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6584] Enable searching on Zebra's Bib-level index <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6584> |
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| 13:55 | oleonard | Hi LBA. Here to see if any LDAP questions appear? ;) |
| 13:56 | slef | hi LBA: what do you make of sip3? |
| 13:58 | LBA | Hi oleonard, that and it reminded me I hadn't checked in on everyone in fah-evah! |
| 13:58 | slef, just read the envisionware response....they convinced me to vote no. If only I could. | |
| 13:59 | I cannot tell I lie, I didn't read the technical details enough to have an opinion on that part. | |
| 13:59 | slef | LBA: why can't you? And did you have an attachment in that response? Something seemed to have removed it before it got to me. I hope they post it on the jive site. |
| 14:00 | * slef | looks at that email again |
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| 14:11 | gmcharlt | slef: if you're looking for a copy of the attachment, I've put it up for you here: http://nox.esilibrary.com/~gmc[…]entsOnSIP_3_0.pdf |
| 14:12 | LBA | slef, just posted a vote. I didn't pay close enough attention. Just sending an email response registers a vote. |
| 14:12 | slef | gmcharlt: ta. got it |
| 14:13 | gmcharlt | slef: I think the bottom half of page four really gets to the core of EnvisionWare's concerns |
| 14:14 | although they clearly also think that editorially the current draft is very sloppy | |
| 14:14 | LBA | gmcharlt and slef - did you get my response on the sip3 mailing list? it bounced. |
| 14:14 | gmcharlt | LBA: yes, I did |
| 14:14 | slef | gmcharlt: ok, as the first two pages really just could be sent as a patch to the document. |
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| 14:14 | slef | LBA: what address bounced? sip33m? |
| 14:15 | gmcharlt: roflmao. That's nice. | |
| 14:15 | gmcharlt | slef: indeed. talk about burying the lead |
| 14:16 | LBA | slef - many recipients bounce including sip3mmm.com |
| 14:16 | SJeffery | Where are the itemtype icons defined/mapped within 3.4? |
| 14:18 | slef | SJeffery: aren't they still in Administration: Item types? |
| 14:18 | gmcharlt | SJeffery: the association of icon to type is set in the same place as in 3.0/3.2 - Administration | Item Types |
| 14:18 | kf | wizzyrea: patron card creator is fixed too :) |
| 14:18 | slef | SJeffery: Home › Administration › Item Types › Modify Item Type 'BK' > Choose an icon |
| 14:19 | SJeffery | Blah, figures. I keep forgetting that the preferences search doesn't actually search all preferences:) |
| 14:20 | oleonard | It searches all preferences, but not all administrative functions ;) |
| 14:20 | slef | LBA: have you got Sue B's email address? That might work better |
| 14:24 | SJeffery | Apparently I was looking at the wrong item type...I am trying to locate where the types are mapped, such as book, which are mapped from the marc record, not the item level data. |
| 14:24 | wizzyrea | kf: super! |
| 14:24 | kf | SJeffery: you mean the small icons in result and detail pages? |
| 14:25 | SJeffery | Yes. |
| 14:25 | kf | SJeffery: they are created using some of the controlled marc fields and leader |
| 14:25 | you can turn them off | |
| 14:25 | but not configure them from the interface | |
| 14:28 | SJeffery | It seems as though there is no icon mapped for theses/dissertations and that they map to books instead... |
| 14:29 | kf | hm yes |
| 14:29 | not sure I can imagine an icon for those :) | |
| 14:30 | SJeffery | A steaming pile of ... |
| 14:30 | That is what I came up with after spending the last week looking at them:D | |
| 14:30 | * wizzyrea | whispers "the channel is logged..." |
| 14:31 | LBA | thanks, slef. I don't have Sue B that I can tell but there are plenty of mmm.com email addresses on the recipient list so I assume they got it. |
| 14:33 | oleonard | SJeffery: theses/dissertations map to "books" because they are "Language material" if I understand it correctly. |
| 14:34 | 06 - Type of record: http://www.loc.gov/marc/biblio[…]hic/bdleader.html | |
| 14:34 | slef | LBA: I'll check for your vote when I vote, probably tomorrow or Friday. |
| 14:36 | SJeffery | oleonard: There must be some other field that also designates it as a thesis/dissertation. Worldcat.org has separated them out for as long as I can remember. |
| 14:36 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6570] Unlabeled box on funds form <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6570> |
| 14:37 | oleonard | SJeffery: It's a separate designation, but I don't know where it's set. |
| 14:39 | kf | I think 007 perhaps |
| 14:39 | or 008 | |
| 14:39 | always confuse them | |
| 14:39 | there is also a search option for it on the advanced search page | |
| 14:39 | @marc 008 | |
| 14:39 | huginn | kf: This field contains 40 character positions (00-39) that provide coded information about the record as a whole and about special bibliographic aspects of the item being cataloged. These coded data elements are potentially useful for retrieval and data management purposes. [] |
| 14:40 | kf | @marc 007 |
| 14:40 | huginn | kf: This field contains special information about the physical characteristics in a coded form. The information may represent the whole item or parts of an item such as accompanying material. (Repeatable) [] |
| 14:40 | wizzyrea | hmm, did we remove the previous borrower thing from the items page? |
| 14:40 | did I miss that? | |
| 14:40 | kf | not that I am aware of |
| 14:40 | perhaps tt? | |
| 14:40 | wizzyrea | well, it's in my production system |
| 14:40 | kf | or is it perhaps linked to the reading history? |
| 14:40 | wizzyrea | but not in current master? |
| 14:41 | * wizzyrea | is bewildered |
| 14:41 | kf | my koha isntallation here is way out of date |
| 14:41 | have to spend some time on it later this week | |
| 14:41 | oleonard | wizzyrea: You mean moredetail.pl under "History" ? |
| 14:41 | wizzyrea | no |
| 14:41 | kf | the items view? |
| 14:41 | items tab? | |
| 14:41 | wizzyrea | isec |
| 14:41 | cap | |
| 14:42 | production: http://screencast.com/t/srCU322onBn | |
| 14:43 | dev: http://screencast.com/t/yiZgLdoVZm | |
| 14:43 | is hiding that a preference? | |
| 14:43 | that I perhaps don't have set? | |
| 14:44 | oleonard | So, on moredetail.pl under "History." :P |
| 14:44 | * wizzyrea | is dumb |
| 14:44 | wizzyrea | >.< |
| 14:44 | yes | |
| 14:44 | SJeffery | Still can't find where it is mapping, perhaps they simply map based on the presence of a 502. |
| 14:44 | kf | no |
| 14:44 | I have seen it somewhere, let me check :) | |
| 14:45 | oleonard | wizzyrea: patron anonymization? |
| 14:46 | kf | SJeffery: http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd008b.html |
| 14:46 | wizzyrea | hmm no it's keeping the history |
| 14:46 | kf | 008, position 24-27 - Nature of contents (006/07-10) = m |
| 14:46 | SJeffery | Bingo! |
| 14:47 | Has anyone ever looked into mapping the item types (item level) to the types at the bib level? | |
| 14:47 | oleonard | wizzyrea: The only thing the template does there is check for 'card0' and 'card1' in the data. It would not display anything if those variables were absent. |
| 14:48 | wizzyrea | it's not even showing the label for it (and no, it's not JS here, I checked :)) |
| 14:49 | oleonard | The label wouldn't show if 'card0' and 'card1' were not present |
| 14:49 | wizzyrea | Oooooo |
| 14:49 | 1mo | |
| 14:49 | oleonard | (which is perhaps incorrect) |
| 14:49 | wizzyrea | gonna make sure that it's not the *other* thing I suspect about that |
| 14:50 | (that it only shows "previous borrower" that's two back | |
| 14:50 | ) | |
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| 14:51 | wizzyrea | no, it's not that |
| 14:51 | so it must be the incoming data | |
| 14:51 | ok, off to file a bug about that I guess. | |
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| 15:35 | reiveune | bye |
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| 15:41 | hristost | Greetings! |
| 15:41 | anybody in the room have experience with using Koha in an LDAP+Active Directory environment? | |
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| 15:47 | cma | hello! |
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| 15:51 | cma | I have a question about the overdues circulation report on 3.4--it seems to be ignoring the Sort By option. No matter what I choose the results look the same. Has anyone else experienced this? |
| 15:52 | oleonard | cma: Are you talking about circ/overdue.pl ? |
| 15:53 | cma | yep. |
| 15:53 | oleonard | I see the same thing: I tried to sort the results using the "filter on" form in the sidebar, and it didn't seem to have any effect. |
| 15:53 | cma | it seems like it's always defaulting to the default search order. I manually changed that to borrower,due_date, and that resorted. |
| 15:55 | should i file a bug, then? | |
| 15:55 | oleonard | Yes please |
| 15:56 | cma | will do. thanks. :) |
| 15:56 | rhcl_away | Anybody using RedBox w/ Koha? http://www.communitynewspapers[…]oskBig-767868.jpg |
| 15:57 | oleonard | In what way rhcl_away ? |
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| 15:58 | rhcl_away | To check out DVD's. Apparently they can connect to an ILS for library circ |
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| 16:12 | * oleonard | wasn't aware that library/redbox partnerships involved circulation |
| 16:12 | thought it was straight rentals | |
| 16:13 | rhcl | I'm working on shakey info here, but apparently 3M makes both the RedBox machines and the "Library Media Box" which is actually pictured in their promo material as green. |
| 16:13 | This is late-breaking info... | |
| 16:14 | And now that our ALA delegate has found the info it does indeed indicate that it uses SIP2, which was the intent of my original question. | |
| 16:17 | $30,000 | |
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| 16:28 | SirDekar | any working website from a library please |
| 16:28 | wizzyrea | SirDekar: what are you wanting to look at? |
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| 16:37 | SirDekar | I am trying to use Koha to manage a library at a university |
| 16:39 | and I want to look some websites with this system to guide myself | |
| 16:39 | wizzyrea | ah you want a library OPAC |
| 16:40 | http://catalog.nexpresslibrary.org | |
| 16:40 | that's not a very creative one | |
| 16:40 | SirDekar | yes |
| 16:40 | wizzyrea | or http://library.org.nz |
| 16:41 | SirDekar | thank you so much this is that I was looking for |
| 16:46 | slef | there's a page of koha users on http://wiki.koha-community.org I think |
| 16:47 | hristost: lots of people use it with LDAP and AD is just LDAP with fussy settings IIRC (I'm not our MS-certified worker, does it show?) | |
| 16:50 | davi | 14:36 < kf> perhaps tt? |
| 16:51 | slef | davi: copy-paste error? |
| 17:02 | davi | hi all |
| 17:02 | I have took some time to read the logs | |
| 17:03 | I hope to be logged in this channel 24x7 but not too much active | |
| 17:03 | at least by now | |
| 17:03 | Also, I hope to attend next meeting, 2 August | |
| 17:04 | wizzyrea | cool :) |
| 17:04 | davi | The last ones I attended were being part of slef coop |
| 17:04 | ack, later | |
| 17:07 | slef | to be clear, davi was a subcontractor of our co-op, not a member. |
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| 17:10 | * wizzyrea | remembers her rule of thumb on most everything: there's no need to be defensive -- if you're right you don't need a defense and if you're wrong you don't have one. If it's somewhere in between, polite discussion is probably the way to go. |
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| 17:30 | talljoy | wizzyrea++ |
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| 17:54 | slef | yeah, trouble is that mud sticks if you don't wash it off, as I've learned to my cost. |
| 17:57 | hristost | Thanks slef, I definitely hear you :-) |
| 17:58 | I've followed a lot of guides that are out there and I am sure I am doing something wrong | |
| 17:58 | part of me wonders if it's been used on a Server 2008 r2 setup, or if that is a factor | |
| 18:00 | slef | hristost: I don't know it well enough to opine. If I were you, I'd make something more verbose (ldap* command line tools) work with it from your koha server first, then try to configure koha to match what works. |
| 18:03 | hristost | that is something i havent tried yet actually - thanks for the tip! |
| 18:04 | right now the opac error log shows nothing relevant, so that is probably my best bet | |
| 18:05 | i believe i have logging as verbose as it can get | |
| 18:07 | I am more of a *nix guy so this is mostly a trial and error venture for me | |
| 18:15 | jcamins_away | edamame+cranberries+blue cheese+bacon+anything=awesome |
| 18:15 | Just thought I'd share that thought. :) | |
| 18:15 | sekjal | hristost: sorry, just catching up. what's the trouble you've got with Koha LDAP against AD? |
| 18:16 | wizzyrea | hmm |
| 18:16 | hristost | sekjal thanks |
| 18:16 | basically I can't authenticate, and the "koha-opac-error_log" gives me no clues as to what is wrong | |
| 18:16 | i found this: http://kohablog.wordpress.com/[…]e-directory-ldap/ | |
| 18:17 | and am following that, going through everything again | |
| 18:17 | this seems to be the most complete working config that I hav efound | |
| 18:17 | sekjal | what Koha version are you running, specifically? full version number as found in About Koha, if it'd do ya fine |
| 18:18 | hristost | sure let me grab that! |
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| 18:19 | hristost | Koha version: 3.05.00.001 |
| 18:21 | sekjal | hristost: so, git install? |
| 18:22 | hristost | apt-get, via the Debian Squeeze repositories that are set up |
| 18:24 | sekjal | ah |
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| 18:25 | sekjal | you may be encountering bug 5094, which is very recently patched |
| 18:25 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5094 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED , auth_by_bind authentication can fail even if given a correct password and userid |
| 18:27 | hristost | I see |
| 18:29 | Thanks for the heads up, I will give this patch a try. | |
| 18:30 | sekjal | hristost: was that your post to the listserv? |
| 18:31 | hristost | Yeah :-) |
| 18:31 | from 6/28 | |
| 18:32 | sekjal | replying to that with what's been said here, so it's recorded in more places. |
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| 18:37 | hristost | Many thanks, doesn't look like 3.05.00.003 has hit the repos yet |
| 18:39 | cait | hi #koha |
| 18:39 | sekjal | dang. well, it shall soon, I'm sure |
| 18:39 | cait | 3.05? |
| 18:39 | wizzyrea | it's the development version for 3.06 |
| 18:39 | the 0 messes people up sometimes | |
| 18:40 | hristost | yeah 3.05.00.003 |
| 18:40 | wizzyrea | not 3.0.5 |
| 18:40 | hristost | oh? |
| 18:40 | wizzyrea | 3.05 |
| 18:40 | (I was talking to cait) | |
| 18:40 | cait | now I am confused |
| 18:40 | sekjal | just imaging if we get to versions. 3.10 and 3.12... |
| 18:41 | s/imaging/imagining/; | |
| 18:41 | cait | i still don't get it actually |
| 18:41 | wizzyrea | 3.05 is the same as 3.5 |
| 18:41 | hristost | okay that explains why dpkg says i have 3.5 installed |
| 18:41 | cait | yes |
| 18:42 | ah | |
| 18:42 | not koha? | |
| 18:42 | SirDekar | could be 3.0005.0 and keeps being 3.5 |
| 18:42 | wizzyrea | ^^ |
| 18:43 | the placeholders are important, but not universally used | |
| 18:43 | (god help us if we get into the thousands of 3.x releases) | |
| 18:45 | SirDekar | :D |
| 18:47 | * sekjal | is still looking forward to Koha 4.0 |
| 18:59 | * wizzyrea | too |
| 18:59 | cait | :) |
| 19:00 | hristost | sekaj: do you know how picky koha-conf.xml is about case usage? |
| 19:00 | e.g. CN= versus cn= and so forth | |
| 19:00 | sekjal | hristost: only in the <mapping> I believe |
| 19:00 | and there's a bug report against that, so it may be fixed by now | |
| 19:01 | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4994 | |
| 19:01 | huginn | 04Bug 4994: enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , ldap mapping inconsistancy: Net::LDAP returns lowercase names |
| 19:01 | sekjal | aaaaannnnd, getting it pushed up on me right now |
| 19:01 | :/ | |
| 19:02 | ~getting it pushed past QA is on me | |
| 19:03 | hristost | I believe I saw this one whilst searching the tubes |
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| 19:28 | sekjal | 4994 is now pushed past QA |
| 19:51 | wizzyrea | sekjal++ |
| 19:52 | nengard: about? | |
| 19:53 | actually nm | |
| 19:55 | hristost | sekjal: mapping question - are all fields required to be used? |
| 19:55 | as in, our AD schema has nothing that seems to relate to say, categorycode so i am not sure what to use there | |
| 19:55 | as of now it is commented | |
| 19:56 | sekjal | hristost: mapping is only required if you try to use replicate or update, neither of which work with AD right now |
| 19:56 | hristost | noted, thanks! |
| 19:57 | sekjal | once it is fixed, only the fields that are required by the database to be non-NULL will need to be filled in; others will be optional |
| 19:57 | this includes categorycode and branchcode | |
| 19:57 | you'll need to specify defaults for those | |
| 20:00 | hristost | this may be a very general question, but if our schema has nothing like "branchcode" can I simply specify something that we actually have? |
| 20:00 | sekjal | yes, you can specify one of the branchcodes you've defined in Koha as the default |
| 20:04 | hristost | I've just commented out the whole <mapping> block (also disabled replicate and update) and tried to authenticate and I am back to the Software Error I defined in my first post. |
| 20:04 | line 61 of /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Auth_with_ldap.pm seems to directly call "mapping" | |
| 20:05 | my perl is no good though | |
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| 20:22 | library_systems_guy | Hi #Koha :) |
| 20:22 | cait | hi library_systems_guy |
| 20:22 | rangi | morning |
| 20:23 | cait | morning rangi |
| 20:23 | library_systems_guy | morning rangi and cait |
| 20:23 | rangi are you the one testing the hourly loans stuff? | |
| 20:23 | rangi | nope |
| 20:23 | library_systems_guy | oop |
| 20:24 | s | |
| 20:27 | does anybody know if there is a way to disable patron history and still have current checkouts in the circulation history tab | |
| 20:28 | rangi | library_systems_guy: there is a branch that colin has put up for testing, its on the bug, if you wanted to test hourly loans |
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| 20:29 | library_systems_guy | I saw that...i may apply it...we really need something before we launch in august |
| 20:29 | apparently reserves are super important for academic libraries | |
| 20:30 | rangi | or at least they think they are ;-) |
| 20:30 | yeah, id be pleased if someone did test that branch | |
| 20:32 | library_systems_guy | heh yeah...apparently there is some beef between academic and public libraries |
| 20:33 | magnuse is now known as magnus_away | |
| 20:35 | library_systems_guy | and ill see what i can do to pull it down and get our circ staff testing it :) |
| 20:36 | rangi | awesome |
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| 20:46 | rangi | hmm busy day again today i think |
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| 20:50 | library_systems_guy | oh so it really is the morning for you rangi |
| 20:50 | well i feel retarded assuming all programmers are in the us | |
| 20:50 | * library_systems_guy | blushes |
| 20:51 | rangi | hehe more arent than are |
| 20:51 | we have a pretty decent spread over the world :) | |
| 20:52 | library_systems_guy | I've noticed...i always hop on when the french guys are leaving |
| 20:52 | slef | rangi: what's the pub by the harbour facing the convention centre, across the roads from it? |
| 20:53 | library_systems_guy | do you know of a clean way to merge the hourly loans branch to an existing branch? |
| 20:53 | rangi | the one where you can sit on the grass slef? |
| 20:53 | slef | yeah |
| 20:53 | rangi | st johns |
| 20:53 | slef | ta |
| 20:55 | rangi | meet ya there for lunch? :) |
| 20:56 | * sekjal | wishes he could stick around, but it's time for beers with librarians |
| 20:56 | sekjal | night, #koha |
| 20:56 | rangi | cya slef |
| 20:57 | hmm sekjal | |
| 20:57 | slef | I'm not mentioning that here :) |
| 20:57 | rangi | i never quite understand how the tab completion decides which it is gonna use |
| 20:57 | slef | else w'd meet you there for lunch tomoz, way things are going here |
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| 20:57 | slef | rangi: badly? |
| 20:57 | rangi | slef: it appears so |
| 20:58 | maybe the last one you typed | |
| 20:58 | slef | nah, last one to speak? |
| 20:58 | rangi | shoulda have been sekjal before then, when i said cya to you by mistake |
| 20:59 | slef | yeah, rereading... too much kir to read straight :) |
| 21:01 | bbl | |
| 21:01 | rangi | cya later |
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| 21:02 | wizzyrea | that whole conversation was practically greek to me. |
| 21:02 | this must mean it's almost time to go home. | |
| 21:02 | :) | |
| 21:02 | rangi | heh |
| 21:09 | hristost | bye sekjal and thank you!! |
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| 21:28 | library_systems_guy | hey rangi do you think you could point a git newb in the right direction |
| 21:29 | I want to check out the hourly branch without having to check out a fresh copy...so would i check it out to another branch and then merge the two? | |
| 21:29 | wizzyrea | oh oh there's a wiki page for this sec |
| 21:29 | library_systems_guy | dang it really |
| 21:29 | wizzyrea | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]n_a_pushed_branch |
| 21:30 | library_systems_guy | wizzyrea the maser of all that is wiki |
| 21:30 | wizzyrea | nah, I just keep the git pages handy ;) |
| 21:30 | library_systems_guy | haha i need to as well apparently |
| 21:30 | wizzyrea | sign off on a branch? |
| 21:30 | sign off on a branch is at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]n_a_pushed_branch | |
| 21:30 | sign off on a branch? | |
| 21:30 | wahanui | somebody said sign off on a branch was at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]n_a_pushed_branch |
| 21:30 | wizzyrea | there we go :) |
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| 21:31 | wizzyrea | hi brooke :) |
| 21:31 | Brooke | morena :) |
| 21:32 | rangi | hey Brooke |
| 21:32 | Brooke | 0/ |
| 21:35 | how's everyone doing? | |
| 21:35 | and more importantly, has anyone heard from the Indians near Mumbai to see if folks are okay? | |
| 21:36 | rangi | not today |
| 21:38 | Brooke | harrrumph. |
| 21:38 | wizzyrea | terrible thing, that |
| 21:38 | * Brooke | nods. |
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| 21:38 | Brooke | 0/ |
| 21:38 | jati | Hi koha¡¡ |
| 21:38 | I got a question about hyphens on isbn | |
| 21:39 | Brooke | uh oh |
| 21:39 | jati | do I have to remove hyphens from isbn, in biblioitems -> marcxml 020$a to index isbn without it, and then I would search with our without them |
| 21:39 | * Brooke | always manually ridded the records of that scourge. |
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| 21:40 | jati | or there is a rule into zebra to remove them... |
| 21:40 | Brooke | I should think that you could clean em with MarcEdit and then import em into Koha |
| 21:40 | or get yerself a script that seeks and destroys em | |
| 21:40 | jati | the question is about biblios in koha, not to import |
| 21:41 | in my installation, when i save a biblio, it saves the isbn with hyphens | |
| 21:41 | it does not remove them | |
| 21:42 | rangi | we normalize them when searching |
| 21:43 | jati | I dont know if koha must remove them, before it saves the marcxml, or is zebra who removes those "-" |
| 21:43 | when searching? zebra indexes the isbn with hiphens, and then you can search without it? | |
| 21:43 | rangi | yes |
| 21:44 | jati | but my zebra does not do it |
| 21:44 | rangi | so you cant search on them without? |
| 21:44 | jati | do I have to add a rule in some file? |
| 21:44 | no | |
| 21:44 | rangi | what version of koha? |
| 21:44 | jati | if I search the isbn with hyphen it founds, but without them, not |
| 21:44 | 3.2 | |
| 21:44 | rangi | 3.2.whata? |
| 21:45 | jati | 3.0.2 |
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| 21:45 | rangi | ahh thats not 3.2 :-) that is very very old |
| 21:45 | jati | jaja no... :) |
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| 21:46 | rangi | jun 2009 in fact |
| 21:46 | jati | so I installed the version of liblime and does the same |
| 21:46 | the last | |
| 21:46 | rangi | liblime is not koha |
| 21:46 | jati | and I think the community does to... |
| 21:46 | yes I know... | |
| 21:46 | I said "the version of liblime"... | |
| 21:46 | rangi | well this is #koha ;-) so no point talking about liblime |
| 21:46 | jati | ok ok |
| 21:47 | wizzyrea | so you're running 3.0.2 or 3.2.x |
| 21:47 | ? | |
| 21:47 | jati | so, I test koha of biblibre, and does the same |
| 21:47 | rangi | easiest solution for you then is to enter it without the - then .. then people can search with or without them |
| 21:48 | jati | 3.02.00 |
| 21:48 | wizzyrea | perfect thanks :) |
| 21:49 | jati | so, 2 years ago, I installed 3.0 to some libraries, and I dont remember, but I think I could search with and without hyphens |
| 21:49 | rangi | id just enter them without the - .. thats how a barcode scanner would enter them |
| 21:49 | jati | and I saw the - in the isbn data in marcxml... |
| 21:49 | rangi | and if you enter them with the - .. then you can search for both, we normalise on searching |
| 21:49 | jati | rangi: I think is the better way... |
| 21:50 | when searching, normalize the query string... | |
| 21:50 | rangi | yup |
| 21:50 | 09:42 <@rangi> we normalize them when searching | |
| 21:50 | :) | |
| 21:51 | wizzyrea | did you mean "enter them without the -" rangi? |
| 21:51 | jati | so, here I got 23:50, |
| 21:51 | rangi | sorry without |
| 21:51 | jati | I think tomorrow will investigate it... |
| 21:52 | wizzyrea | k thx for clarifying |
| 21:53 | Brooke | fresh eyes are good eyes :) |
| 21:58 | jati | definitely, version 3.05, koha-community does the same |
| 21:58 | it indexes the hyphens of an isbn | |
| 21:58 | and I cant search it without them | |
| 21:59 | I think it could be and system preference to decide if a user wants or not to index hyphens in isbn or issn | |
| 21:59 | rangi | i think its just easier to enter without them |
| 21:59 | jati | I have to remove it on AddBiblio |
| 22:00 | rangi | but id accept a patch implementing the syspref is you wanted to send one |
| 22:00 | jati | yes, of course |
| 22:00 | tomorrow I'll do it | |
| 22:00 | but on 3.02, with template pro | |
| 22:00 | but to this, template pro or template toolkit does not take care | |
| 22:00 | rangi | 3.2.x is deprecated, so that wont be much use |
| 22:01 | so if you base it off master, it can go into 3.4.x and into 3.6.0 when its released | |
| 22:02 | so you can test it on your 3.2.0 install, then cherry-pick it to a master branch and fix any conflicts and send the patch based on that | |
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| 22:06 | jati | yes, now I have lots of work, because of a installation of koha in 5 libraries |
| 22:06 | but, I planned to migrated all those changes to koha-community master | |
| 22:06 | I got some of them, but not all | |
| 22:06 | rangi, what is your email? to send you the patch | |
| 22:06 | ok | |
| 22:06 | bye¡¡ | |
| 22:06 | rangi | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]rest_of_the_world |
| 22:07 | jati | tomorrow I'll put the patch into bugzilla |
| 22:07 | rangi | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Control_Using_Git <-- the whole page is worth a read |
| 22:07 | Brooke | it is so simple, even I can do it. |
| 22:07 | takes a few reads | |
| 22:07 | but I *could* do it, were my mail programme cooperative. | |
| 22:08 | rangi | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]nt-patch_Workflow <-- explains what happens to a patch after it is sent |
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| 22:09 | Brooke | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-eYBZFEzf8 |
| 22:11 | rangi | have i shown you the 2cellos playing guns and roses yet? |
| 22:12 | Brooke | omg no |
| 22:12 | I used to jam with this dude that played bass | |
| 22:13 | because viola and base almost always got the crap part | |
| 22:13 | rangi | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AYEgwwCYWw |
| 22:13 | Brooke | bass even |
| 22:13 | rangi | they are darn talented |
| 22:13 | Brooke | dude carbon fibre! |
| 22:13 | Space_Librarian | awesome |
| 22:13 | rock the cellos | |
| 22:15 | Brooke | wow they are super far down the neck to get that high |
| 22:15 | rangi | yeah |
| 22:16 | ibeardslee | fark |
| 22:16 | Brooke | clearly they need a groupy to hand em new bows. |
| 22:16 | rangi | heh |
| 22:17 | * Brooke | should get the stones to go busk with the saxophonist or the wee harpist. |
| 22:17 | rangi | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v[…]s&feature=related <-- how it started |
| 22:17 | Brooke | Ellen is the bomb. |
| 22:18 | slef | You set us up the Ellen. |
| 22:18 | Space_Librarian | almost tangent: http://youtu.be/zf2aIVKp1OY |
| 22:19 | rangi | heh yeah |
| 22:19 | Space_Librarian | its a good arrangement. |
| 22:19 | rhcl | a bit surprised she would have them on her show. |
| 22:19 | * ibeardslee | has the musical talent of a peanut butter sandwich |
| 22:20 | Brooke | aedunno, could use some Maorification ;) |
| 22:21 | k dinnah prep time | |
| 22:21 | might make a repeat appearance after fencing | |
| 22:21 | rangi | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90W3WBx6_6I <-- maorification |
| 22:22 | Brooke | that's it! |
| 22:22 | that's the thing that Emma was listening to! | |
| 22:22 | * Brooke | hugs rangi for iding the band that's been in her head for the last damn 9 months. |
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| 22:22 | Brooke | ello Irma and bye bye |
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| 22:23 | rangi | i have the cd Brooke |
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| 22:23 | rangi | i have all 4 of theirs actually |
| 22:23 | Brooke | saweet |
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| 22:48 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 321 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 22:50 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for Bug 6577 - columns misaligned on serials search results <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]cbe2157673d44c0ec> / Bug 4994 - Net::LDAP returns lowercase names <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]333a492effcf075eb> |
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| 23:17 | rangi | hi BobB |
| 23:31 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #321: SUCCESS in 43 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/321/ |
| 23:31 | * dpavlin: Bug 4994 - Net::LDAP returns lowercase names | |
| 23:31 | * oleonard: Fix for Bug 6577 - columns misaligned on serials search results | |
| 23:31 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4994 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , ldap mapping inconsistancy: Net::LDAP returns lowercase names |
| 23:31 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6577 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Columns misaligned on serials search results | |
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| 23:41 | phlunk3 | Hi guys, I have just taken over a system which is running koha 3.0 and have no experience with koha at all, can anyone point me to instructions which will help me when I want to upgrade the system to the latest release? |
| 23:41 | phlunk3 is now known as Phlunk3 | |
| 23:43 | rangi | what version of 3.0 ? |
| 23:44 | the tarballs contain upgrade instructions, but heres a quick link | |
| 23:44 | Phlunk3 | 3.00.05.003 |
| 23:44 | rangi | on what distro? |
| 23:44 | Phlunk3 | good question, still haven't been able to log into the box ;) but I believe debian. |
| 23:45 | rangi | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]57673d44c0ec#l320 |
| 23:45 | (that file will be in all the tarballs, but you can look in git for a sneak peek) | |
| 23:46 | Phlunk3 | can I always update to newest, or do I need to do incremental updates over each version released? |
| 23:56 | rangi | you can go from 3.0.x to any 3.2.x or 3.4.x |
| 23:57 | as long as you follow the upgrade instructions | |
| 23:57 | hristost | make a backup first :-) |
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