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| 00:40 | huginn | larryb: (last [--{from,in,on,with,without,regexp} <value>] [--nolimit]) -- Returns the last message matching the given criteria. --from requires a nick from whom the message came; --in requires a channel the message was sent to; --on requires a network the message was sent on; --with requires some string that had to be in the message; --regexp requires a regular expression the message must match; --nolimit (1 more message) |
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| 01:37 | library_guy | seen nengard |
| 01:37 | wahanui | nengard was last seen on #koha 1 days, 4 hours, 50 minutes and 57 seconds ago, saying: email if you have further questions [Wed Jun 29 20:46:39 2011] |
| 01:41 | library_guy | sekjal you around? |
| 01:42 | sekjal | library_guy: mostly |
| 01:42 | library_guy | heh |
| 01:42 | so I made a dumb typo in my commit and typed a 2 instead of a 0 | |
| 01:42 | so to fix it I don't want to have to submit a separate 3rd patch | |
| 01:43 | so how can i merge the second patch into the 3rd one | |
| 01:43 | sekjal | 1) make the change |
| 01:43 | 2) git add the change file | |
| 01:43 | 3) git commit --amend | |
| 01:43 | 4) send patch with a not that this replaces the previous | |
| 01:43 | library_guy | ok |
| 01:43 | sekjal | 5) mark the replaced patch as obsolete in Bugzilla (this is right time to use this, I promise) |
| 01:44 | library_guy | heh |
| 01:44 | ok thanks sekjal | |
| 01:44 | sekjal | gladly, library_guy |
| 01:49 | * chris_n | wanders in for a moment and looks around |
| 01:49 | mtj | hiya folks |
| 01:49 | chris_n | howdy mtj |
| 01:50 | mtj | and a big "hi" to chris_n :p |
| 01:50 | long time, no chat - i think | |
| 01:50 | chris_n | seems like it |
| 01:51 | * chris_n | has not sat at his desk for two hours in a row for the past month |
| 01:51 | chris_n | :P |
| 01:52 | mtj | well done! |
| 01:52 | chris_n | aamof when I hear the word 'perl' I think of oysters first rather than code |
| 01:52 | mtj | oooh, are you moonlighting as a food critic now? |
| 01:53 | chris_n | lol |
| 01:53 | actually, I'm pretending to be a building automation expert | |
| 02:06 | * library_guy | has a conundrum |
| 02:10 | sekjal | library_guy: ? |
| 02:10 | library_guy | if an item doesn't have a call number or a location I don't want to print the location line |
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| 02:11 | library_guy | the problem is, to check those things i have to iterate through all those loops |
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| 02:11 | library_guy | err at least that the only way i know |
| 02:12 | http://129.114.128.216/cgi-bin[…]sort_by=relevance | |
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| 03:14 | mtj | library_guy: what koha version, 3.2 or 3.4? |
| 03:19 | sekjal | library_guy: have you looked at XSLT keys? |
| 03:19 | that's the mechanism used for Availability... perhaps it would pay off for the Location(s) line | |
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| 03:28 | mtj | library_guy: fyi: your example url has populated location values for all bibs |
| 03:28 | ie: its a bad example? | |
| 03:30 | library_guy: the last-resort fix to your problem is some jscript/jquery to remove those blank location rows | |
| 03:31 | ... but a bug-report+patch would be better | |
| 03:32 | nice OPAC too ! :P , well done | |
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| 03:36 | library_guy | sorry im just getting back guys...and I feel instead of removing that line it would be better to say "No location information available" |
| 03:36 | also thanks mtj | |
| 03:37 | i was a web developer in a previous life :p | |
| 03:38 | sekjal | library_guy: adding a "no location info" note would be a good <otherwise>... it would be easy enough to JQuery out, though I agree with mtj that a patch to resolve that would be preferable. |
| 03:38 | and also, yes, very nice OPAC you've got there | |
| 03:39 | mtj | its probably a mod to your MARC21slim2OPACResults.xsl file , then |
| 03:40 | local jquery mods survive upgrades quite nicely, too | |
| 03:40 | library_guy | thats what i did to mod the Location mtj, and thank you also sekjal. I am trying to get otherwise to work. The problem is I don't know how to tell if there is a call number |
| 03:41 | or maybe i misunderstood what you guys were recommending | |
| 03:41 | you want me to patch the xsl right? | |
| 03:42 | sekjal | <xsl:if test="items:itemcallnumber != '' and items:itemcallnumber"> |
| 03:42 | though you may need to be in some specific context for that | |
| 03:42 | my mind is melting fast | |
| 03:42 | I think it's time for bed | |
| 03:43 | mtj | i gotta finish off a 3.4 upgrade too |
| 03:43 | library_guy | lol fair enough |
| 03:43 | cya sekjal | |
| 03:44 | boo everybody is leaving poor library_guy | |
| 03:44 | druthb | I'm not. Should be here....well, for a while, anyway. |
| 03:44 | mtj | library_guy: sounds like you are on the right track, tho.. |
| 03:44 | library_guy | aww thanks druthb |
| 03:44 | mtj | heya druthb |
| 03:45 | library_guy | and yeah I am, just gotta figure out a clever way to hack my way through xslt |
| 03:45 | druthb | :) |
| 03:45 | hi, library_guy and mtj. :) | |
| 03:45 | mtj | looking forward to hanging in mumbai ;) |
| 03:46 | library_guy | so this is the bit i need to see if the location exists: "count(key('item-by-status-and-branch', concat(items:status, ' ', items:homebranch)))" |
| 03:46 | druthb | oooh, yes! |
| 03:46 | library_guy | the problem is...it happens in a loop |
| 03:46 | so the scope dies with the loop | |
| 03:46 | mtj | same hotel hopefully |
| 03:47 | druthb | that'd be fun. I'm staying with Brooke and jransom, I think is the current plan. Should be fun. |
| 03:48 | * library_guy | wants to go to mumbai |
| 03:48 | library_guy | im small enough to fit in a suitcase :) |
| 03:48 | * druthb | has a big ol' duffel. |
| 03:49 | library_guy | excellent bc library_guy isn't really that small :'( |
| 03:49 | druthb | :) |
| 03:50 | sekjal | library_guy: could you define a variable outside the scope of the loop, then update it while in the loop? will XSLT work that way... I forget |
| 03:51 | library_guy | i forget too...actually now that i think about it...i think variables are global inside the "template" block |
| 03:51 | but they just get overwritten not updated | |
| 03:53 | sekjal | hmmm, I'd love to ponder at this some more, but the logic centers have pretty much failed, so I need to reboot. g'night, #koha |
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| 03:54 | * druthb | grumbles at failing package builds... |
| 03:58 | * library_guy | thinks its probably the .t file :p |
| 04:12 | mtj | hmm, anyone remember the magic script that converts .tmpl files to .tt files? |
| 04:14 | aah, google to the rescue :) | |
| 04:16 | ./installer/html-template-to-template-toolkit.pl --koharoot /path/to/the/root -f koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/prog/en/modules/ilsdi.tmpl | |
| 04:17 | http://lists.koha-community.or[…]April/035416.html | |
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| 04:31 | cait | good mornign #koha |
| 04:32 | library_guy | morning cait |
| 04:32 | cait | hi library_guy :) |
| 04:32 | library_guy | its bedtime for me here |
| 04:33 | so goodnight cait and #koha | |
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| 04:34 | druthb | hi, cait. :) |
| 04:34 | cait | hi druthb - go to bed! :) |
| 04:34 | druthb | anyone seen what could make build-git-snapshot die silently? I'm not able to build packages! |
| 04:40 | mtj | druthb: sorry, i *still* haven't played with the Koha packages yet :/ |
| 04:42 | and eythian is off to indo today? | |
| 04:42 | druthb | hmf. It's screeching about dependencies, but it's stuff I have installed. Very annoying. |
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| 05:44 | Oak | Knock Knock Knockin' on Heaven's Door |
| 05:56 | cait | hi Oak |
| 05:56 | Oak | hello cait |
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| 05:57 | francharb | hello |
| 05:57 | wahanui | privet, francharb |
| 05:57 | Oak | Bonjour francharb |
| 05:59 | cait | hi francharb :) |
| 06:00 | francharb | hi Oak, cait! |
| 06:06 | hdl1 | hi |
| 06:06 | wahanui | hey, hdl1 |
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| 06:13 | alex_a | hello #koha |
| 06:14 | hi Oak cait francharb hdl1 and all | |
| 06:15 | Oak | Bonjour monsieur alex_a |
| 06:15 | :) | |
| 06:16 | alex_a | With a upper case M please :p |
| 06:17 | Oak | ah, okay, cool :) |
| 06:17 | alex_a | ;) |
| 06:21 | cait | hi alex_a |
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| 06:35 | Oak | @wunder islamabad |
| 06:35 | huginn | Oak: The current temperature in Islamabad Airport, Pakistan is 28.0�C (11:00 AM PKT on July 01, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: 20.0�C. Pressure: 29.45 in 997 hPa. |
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| 07:30 | clrh_ | hi |
| 07:30 | wahanui | hey, clrh_ |
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| 08:39 | magnuse | kia ora #koha |
| 08:40 | @seen conan | |
| 08:40 | huginn | magnuse: conan was last seen in #koha 3 weeks, 1 day, 11 hours, 51 minutes, and 41 seconds ago: <conan> magnuse: I stared at those yesterday |
| 08:41 | magnuse | hm |
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| 09:46 | slef | oakivil: hi. We're using EDIFACT messages with MARC records over FTP because that's what our sponsor wanted. We have a project now started to port this to 3.4/3.6 but first we've got to complete some migrations so we can concentrate on it. |
| 09:46 | @query EDI | |
| 09:46 | huginn | slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1232 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Add Invoice/Credit/Fines Payed For Day on Issues (Print Page) (Print Slip) |
| 09:46 | slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3657 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Editing MARC Authority Subfield Structure - Librarian Text is Mandatory | |
| 09:46 | slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6327 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, NEW , editing frameworks looses framework suggestion | |
| 09:46 | slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6401 trivial, PATCH-Sent, ---, nengard, NEW , Give Ian Walls credit in the history file. | |
| 09:46 | slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1084 enhancement, P2, ---, paul.poulain, NEW , would be nice to remove records from breeding tables. | |
| 09:46 | slef | @query EDIFACT |
| 09:46 | huginn | slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2443 enhancement, P3, ---, mjr, NEW , Acquisitions by EDIFACT |
| 09:46 | slef | that's the one to subscribe to if you want to subscribe to updates, or you can tell me more about what you want here some time and I'll discuss things |
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| 09:47 | magnuse | wow, hadn't seen that before... |
| 09:47 | slef | magnuse: the EDIFACT bug or @query |
| 09:47 | ? | |
| 09:47 | magnuse | the @query thing |
| 09:50 | slef | yeah, can't remember why I found it. |
| 09:52 | * magnuse | thinks maybe huginn needs some docs, like a page on the wiki... |
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| 10:44 | druthb | o/ |
| 10:46 | magnuse | \o |
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| 11:07 | Oak | heya druthb :) |
| 11:07 | \o #koha | |
| 11:07 | magnuse | Oak |
| 11:07 | Oak | magnuse |
| 11:07 | druthb | hi, Oak! |
| 11:09 | Oak | :) |
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| 11:26 | Oak | greetings nengard |
| 11:30 | nengard | hiya Oak |
| 11:30 | Oak | :) |
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| 11:55 | kf | hi #koha |
| 11:55 | magnuse | hiya kf |
| 11:55 | Oak | kf |
| 11:56 | kf | hi Oak and magnuse |
| 11:57 | slef | magnuse: It has docs. Just msg huginn help or msg huginn list. |
| 11:57 | now lunch :) | |
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| 14:42 | rhcl_away | anybody have time to talk? |
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| 14:42 | Oak | yes ketchup |
| 14:42 | go ahead | |
| 14:44 | what do you want to talk about? Life, death, fate, destiny, ice cream, easter bunny? | |
| 14:44 | rhcl | If you have something checked out already, and try to check it out again, as might happen when you want to renew it, |
| 14:44 | you get a yellow box with a "renew checkout (y)" or something else with a "(n)". | |
| 14:44 | Oak | ah, I have no idea. Someone else must answer that. |
| 14:44 | rhcl | This gives the appearance that if you simply press "Y", the item will be renewed. However, that doesn't happen. |
| 14:44 | I'll continue anyway... :) | |
| 14:45 | oleonard | It follows the rules of the browser's access key implementation |
| 14:45 | slef | rhcl: "press" as in keyboard? |
| 14:45 | rhcl | That is partly controlled by the accesskey settings of the browser. |
| 14:45 | slef: yes | |
| 14:45 | but perhaps also controlled by the javascript | |
| 14:45 | slef | yeah, firefox-based browsers has the BRAINDEAD shift+alt+key combo by default IIRC |
| 14:46 | oleonard | rhcl: That particular case is not controlled by js |
| 14:46 | rhcl | in our case, w/ FF4 and default config, we have to enter control + alt + Y |
| 14:46 | OK, so there is no tweaking the js to simply be able to enter the "Y" or "N" ? | |
| 14:46 | slef | we should sort out tabindex, so you just go tab, enter |
| 14:47 | rhcl | you can't even tab to that field |
| 14:47 | oleonard | Good idea slef |
| 14:47 | slef | oleonard will know. |
| 14:48 | oleonard: big job, needs us to declare standards so alerts > ordinary forms > top forms and stuff like that, then review/change almost all templates :-/ | |
| 14:49 | rhcl | our circ people sometimes get big stacks of things to checkout, including things needing to be renewed. They's prefer to be able to just hit the "Y" or "N" - one keystroke, instead of putting down |
| 14:49 | slef | bbl |
| 14:49 | rhcl | the books they have in hand and doing two or more keystrokes, (if you put down what you're holding, you might just as well click with the mouse) |
| 14:50 | tnx slef | |
| 14:50 | oleonard | In this case I think I'd rather use js to set the focus on the first button in the dialog |
| 14:50 | slef | (but I agree with any easier-to-use things) |
| 14:50 | (focus-stealing)-- | |
| 14:50 | oleonard | How is focus-stealing in this situation different that setting the tabindex? |
| 14:51 | slef | oleonard: can't we make y and n work if no other input is focused? |
| 14:51 | because you have to press tab to activate the tabindex | |
| 14:51 | now seriously bbl :) | |
| 14:52 | * oleonard | doesn't see the disadvantage in a task-focused interaction like this |
| 14:52 | oleonard | But it is probably possible to use the hotkeys jquery plugin to set keyboard triggers in this case |
| 14:52 | rhcl | want me to bug it? |
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| 14:53 | oleonard | If you hope it will happen, yes :) |
| 14:57 | * magnuse | has had people asking about keyboard shortcuts in koha... |
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| 14:59 | rhcl | I'm going to check out the plugin |
| 14:59 | gmcharlt_ | @quote random |
| 14:59 | huginn | gmcharlt_: Quote #71: "cait: hm it works now and I have no idea why :)" (added by chris at 07:47 PM, April 08, 2010) |
| 14:59 | wizzyrea | @quote random |
| 14:59 | huginn | wizzyrea: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) |
| 14:59 | magnuse | yay |
| 14:59 | @quote random | |
| 14:59 | huginn | magnuse: Quote #129: "jcamins: take to heart the old saying- 'don't be a git, use git." (added by wizzyrea at 07:01 PM, April 27, 2011) |
| 15:00 | magnuse | heh |
| 15:00 | wizzyrea | hehe |
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| 15:02 | magnuse | ok, time to make the weekly pizza, see ya #koha |
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| 15:03 | * jcamins_away | is jealous. |
| 15:03 | hasn't made pizza in ages. | |
| 15:08 | oleonard | That doesn't sound like you jcamins_away |
| 15:08 | jcamins_away | oleonard: I know. Tragic, isn't it? |
| 15:08 | kf | he will make pizza again |
| 15:08 | Oak | oooh did I just hear pizza |
| 15:08 | kf | jcamins: run! |
| 15:09 | * jcamins_away | is going to bake more starting this summer. Baking is fun! |
| 15:09 | Oak | where is it? where is it> |
| 15:09 | rhcl | so jcamins_away, how did the class go? I was mildly interested in your occasional comments |
| 15:09 | kf | only wanted to exress some optimism |
| 15:09 | jcamins_away | rhcl: which class? |
| 15:10 | rhcl | didn't catch the name, but it involved jewish history. |
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| 15:10 | jcamins_away | Okay. I just guest spoke at a symposium on teaching cataloging yesterday, so I wasn't sure if that's what you were talking about. |
| 15:12 | Over all, it was a pretty good class. My criticisms of the usual historiography of Russian Jews were apparently too mild for my professor, though. | |
| 15:13 | * oleonard | nods his head knowingly as if he understands |
| 15:16 | jcamins_away | My professor thought I was agreeing with the trend of seeing Jews only as passive victims. I wasn't. |
| 15:18 | oleonard: lest you think I have been entirely replaced by aliens, I just made some stovetop blueberry-strawberry-cherry cobbler for breakfast this morning. | |
| 15:19 | oleonard | That's more like it. |
| 15:26 | rhcl | A tab of metformin to go with that? |
| 15:28 | * jcamins_away | curses bureaucracy. |
| 15:29 | rhcl | Hope my comment didn't set that off... |
| 15:29 | jcamins_away | I sent in a form *from the Department of State*, and received a letter, again from the Department of State, informing me that I needed to use a form from the Department of State. |
| 15:29 | rhcl | Oh, that's recursive government |
| 15:32 | jcamins_away | That's stupid government, is what it is. |
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| 16:15 | library_systems_guy | morning #koha |
| 16:20 | oleonard | Speak for yourself library_systems_guy! |
| 16:20 | * oleonard | is firmly afternoon. |
| 16:24 | Oak | night here |
| 16:34 | * library_systems_guy | has a question about marc |
| 16:34 | library_systems_guy | what field/subfield do you guys store call numbers in |
| 16:34 | I want to check to see if one exists in the record before i print a location line | |
| 16:35 | and we have like 4 places it exists...which to me seems messed up | |
| 16:35 | but maybe im wrong | |
| 16:35 | jcamins_away | library_systems_guy: 952$o. |
| 16:35 | library_systems_guy | is that the standard place for it jcamins_away |
| 16:35 | jcamins_away | There may also be call numbers stored in 050, 082, 090, 092, and/or 099. |
| 16:36 | library_systems_guy: no, that's where Koha looks. | |
| 16:36 | The standard optionally calls for call numbers in 050 or 082. | |
| 16:36 | library_systems_guy | that is so messed up |
| 16:37 | jcamins_away | Many libraries store call numbers in 852hi, too. |
| 16:37 | * library_systems_guy | hates marc :'( |
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| 16:38 | * everyone | hates marc |
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| 16:38 | oleonard | :D |
| 16:38 | library_systems_guy | clever jcamins lol |
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| 16:40 | library_systems_guy | jcamins: do you know the name of that field |
| 16:40 | im looking to do something like this: count(marc:datafield[@tag=$AlternateHoldingsField]) | |
| 16:42 | jcamins | library_systems_guy: what? |
| 16:43 | library_systems_guy | Well nengard doesn't want the location line i was working on to show up if there isn't a call number available |
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| 16:43 | library_systems_guy | so I was trying to figure out a way to see if the call number exists in the marc record before i print the record |
| 16:43 | * nengard | thinks it's confusing to say we have an available copy but there are no locations to find it in :) |
| 16:43 | jcamins | library_systems_guy: the call number comes from the item. |
| 16:44 | 952o. | |
| 16:44 | It's the part in parentheses. | |
| 16:44 | You'll need to define a variable yourself if you want to use a variable. | |
| 16:44 | However, be aware that XSLT variables aren't variable. | |
| 16:45 | library_systems_guy | lol @ xslt |
| 16:45 | so i can just say datafield[952o]? | |
| 16:46 | jcamins | library_systems_guy: no, you'll have to use xpath. |
| 16:46 | library_systems_guy | nengard: should that ever happen. I mean technically if it is available it has to have a location rihgt? |
| 16:47 | nengard | cataloging errors happen all the time |
| 16:47 | library_systems_guy | then a black location should help you correct it more quickly ;) |
| 16:47 | blank* | |
| 16:48 | sekjal | and we'll have to factor in support for the AlternateHoldingsField syspref |
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| 16:48 | sekjal | for those cases were there aren't any items, but there are still physical serials issues someplace in the library |
| 16:48 | library_systems_guy | aww sekjal...i was having an ok day till you said that |
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| 16:49 | sekjal | don't ruin this lovely Friday over it; but it'll have to be considered at some point |
| 16:50 | library_systems_guy | right... |
| 16:50 | cait | hi sekal |
| 16:50 | sekjal | hi, cait! |
| 16:50 | * library_systems_guy | feels in over his head |
| 16:50 | cait | :) |
| 16:50 | Oak | cait |
| 16:50 | cait | hi Oak and library_systems_guy - hi #koha |
| 16:50 | it's friday! | |
| 16:50 | * jcamins | doesn't really see any issue with AlternateHoldingsField. |
| 16:50 | library_systems_guy | hey cait |
| 16:50 | jcamins | I mean, unless and until that is made so that it can be used in tandem with items. |
| 16:51 | * library_systems_guy | has to run for a bit |
| 16:51 | library_systems_guy | can we pick this back up this afternoon |
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| 16:52 | library_systems_guy | bbl #koha |
| 16:53 | cait | not sure I want to read the logs to find out with what sekjal didn't want to ruin this friday |
| 16:53 | jcamins | cait: AlternateHoldingsField. |
| 16:54 | cait | hm |
| 16:54 | sounds not ruining :) | |
| 16:54 | jcamins | cait: it is if you're trying to redo the availability display in the results screen. |
| 16:55 | cait | hm |
| 16:55 | ok | |
| 16:55 | but it doesn't work now... so you can't brak it :) | |
| 16:55 | you can only make it better | |
| 16:56 | the alternateholdings - and there are some things it could do better for normal display | |
| 16:56 | jcamins | cait: yes, like show up at all? |
| 16:56 | * jcamins | thinks that would be a good start. ;) |
| 16:56 | cait | yep :) |
| 16:56 | jcamins | But at least it works for many use cases. |
| 16:57 | cait | yep - it's good |
| 16:57 | but not showind on the result list (yet) | |
| 16:57 | jcamins | When XSLT is enabled and there are no items it does. |
| 16:59 | cait | oh1 |
| 17:00 | didn't know that | |
| 17:00 | that's cool | |
| 17:00 | thought it was only showing on the detail pages | |
| 17:01 | should know you have taken care of that | |
| 17:01 | jcamins | :) |
| 17:01 | It doesn't work with normal view, though, I don't think. | |
| 17:01 | cait | I think xslt view has many advantages over normal view |
| 17:02 | jcamins | Oh, yes it does. |
| 17:02 | Cool. | |
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| 17:20 | sekjal | I should run the OPAC through nytprof and see if there are any significant performance gains/losses one way or the other |
| 17:20 | I'd think that XSLT processing would be expensive | |
| 17:20 | jcamins | I'm sure it is. |
| 17:39 | * larryb_away | is back (gone 01:00:12) |
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| 17:44 | Oak | larryb, we missed you. |
| 17:45 | * library_systems_guy | is back |
| 17:47 | Oak | how much you ran library_systems_guy |
| 17:47 | library_systems_guy | lol about 2 miles |
| 17:47 | its hot here | |
| 17:47 | Oak | huh, i thought you went for running |
| 17:47 | oh okay | |
| 17:48 | library_systems_guy | lol actually i did go for a workout |
| 17:48 | I like to go on my lunch break | |
| 17:48 | Oak | good good |
| 17:48 | :) | |
| 17:48 | library_systems_guy | So I don't really understand alternate holdings |
| 17:48 | and how they are supposed to work vs. how they are working now | |
| 17:48 | Oak | 2 miles is enough |
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| 17:49 | library_systems_guy | yeah especially at 95 degrees F |
| 17:49 | Oak | yup |
| 17:50 | library_systems_guy | I see something about alternate holdings in the xsl file for opac results |
| 17:50 | but i really don't know what it does | |
| 17:50 | bg_away is now known as bg | |
| 17:51 | sekjal | library_systems_guy: it let's you specify a MARC tag that contains the holdings for the title, when there are no items attached |
| 17:51 | very useful for serials | |
| 17:51 | library_systems_guy | ahh |
| 17:51 | sekjal | where you may not have any barcoded items, but you've got date ranges of loose issues |
| 17:52 | library_systems_guy | that makes...some sense |
| 17:52 | but I really have a lacking knowledge of library inner workings :'( | |
| 17:56 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6543] Column hiding on batch item edit/delete not working <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6543> |
| 18:01 | jcamins | library_systems_guy: AlternateHoldings is working as designed, but I think sekjal is thinking about making it optional to display it *in addition* to items, and not just when there are no items. |
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| 18:02 | sekjal | if there are no items, I assume there would be no Location(s) line |
| 18:02 | but the holdings specified in AlternateHoldingsField may indeed have a Location | |
| 18:03 | probably better to just put that in a different subfield of the same field, and call it in with the separator | |
| 18:03 | easier, at least | |
| 18:03 | jcamins | sekjal: in order to have a separate Location, you'd have to do quite a lot of adjusting. |
| 18:05 | oleonard | nengard: Re: Bug 6543, I wonder if the cookie hiding the title column is left over from pre-fixed state |
| 18:05 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6543 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Column hiding on batch item edit/delete not working |
| 18:05 | nengard | meaning? |
| 18:06 | oleonard | Did you try "Show all columns" ? |
| 18:06 | nengard | yes, still no title |
| 18:06 | did shift refresh as well | |
| 18:06 | * oleonard | sees title just fine |
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| 18:06 | nengard | i'm on FF5 |
| 18:06 | could that be it? | |
| 18:06 | i can do a video for you to see what i see | |
| 18:06 | hang on | |
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| 18:10 | nengard | oleonard http://screencast.com/t/YkIR7gOI |
| 18:10 | oleonard | nengard: Do you have the Web Developer toolbar? Can you try using the cookie menu to delete domain and session cookies? |
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| 18:11 | nengard | sure |
| 18:12 | yup title's there now | |
| 18:12 | will sign off | |
| 18:12 | but is it something people have to worry about? | |
| 18:12 | when upgrading? | |
| 18:13 | jcamins | Myshkin says hi. |
| 18:13 | nengard | hello kitty |
| 18:13 | jcamins | He just toppled head first onto my lap. |
| 18:13 | nengard | heh |
| 18:15 | oleonard | nengard: If they had tried to use the column-hiding checkboxes and left it in a state where the title column was hidden, then they would experience what you did |
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| 18:16 | nengard | got it |
| 18:16 | so it's unlikely to happen | |
| 18:16 | but if it does we know how to answer the issue ;) | |
| 18:19 | oops - my patch didn't email cause i changed my email settings today and didn't update git ... got to do that | |
| 18:19 | rhcl | привет котенок |
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| 18:21 | jcamins | Я это слово никогда неслышал. Что значит - котенок? |
| 18:22 | котёнок | |
| 18:22 | Да. Конечно. | |
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| 18:25 | rhcl | котенок |
| 18:26 | wizzyrea | ooh interesting http://www.infoworld.com/d/ope[…]tions-decline-785 |
| 18:29 | jcamins | Of course, there are a lot more people using FOSS now, though. |
| 18:29 | rhcl | well, not sure I agree entirely. There are now zillions and zillions of OS projects, so there's a diluting effect for those programmers, where 5-10 years ago there were people dedicated to the concept, but choosing to join a project in a smaller pond. |
| 18:31 | (my comment in response to the article and it's author) | |
| 18:33 | oleonard | "Five years ago, vendors were using "open source" for the same reasons." I'm quite happy to let open-source-poseurs give up using "open source" as a buzzword which they don't really adhere to. |
| 18:34 | wizzyrea | ^ me too |
| 18:36 | nengard | +1 |
| 18:38 | * wizzyrea | giggles at nengards +1 |
| 18:39 | nengard | :) |
| 18:39 | that's how we did it before G+ came along | |
| 18:39 | they can't steal my +1 :) | |
| 18:39 | wizzyrea | hehe they learned it from us (where us is geeks everywhere) |
| 18:43 | library_systems_guy | nengard: just to clarify, having an item without a call number to display in the location line is still unacceptable? |
| 18:43 | or should i go ahead and commit that? | |
| 18:43 | nengard | go ahead and commit that |
| 18:43 | I'll sign off - it's not a bug you're introducing | |
| 18:44 | you're right it's that way now | |
| 18:44 | I dont like it, but it's not your fault :) | |
| 18:44 | or your patch's fault | |
| 18:44 | library_systems_guy | ok...ive been racking my brain trying to figure out how to fix it but i can't seem to figure it out |
| 18:46 | jcamins | Ooh! Myshkin has discovered a dream-bunny, I think. |
| 18:47 | cait | dream bunny? |
| 18:47 | hunting something i his sleep? | |
| 18:48 | jcamins | He was. |
| 18:49 | wizzyrea | did he need a kitten hug? |
| 18:49 | jcamins | wizzyrea: he's pretty big, but, yeah, that's what it looked like. |
| 18:49 | wizzyrea | <3 |
| 18:50 | jcamins | Speaking of adorable kittens. |
| 18:50 | http://cuteoverload.files.word[…]0.jpg?w=560&h=569 | |
| 18:50 | * Oak | waves |
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| 18:51 | wizzyrea | bowties are cool |
| 18:51 | jcamins | Actually, that kitten looks disturbingly like my wife's advisor. |
| 18:51 | wizzyrea | rofl |
| 18:51 | * oleonard | googles kitten fez |
| 18:52 | oleonard | google does not disappoint: http://www.ectomo.com/wp-conte[…]fez.thumbnail.jpg |
| 18:53 | nengard | heh |
| 18:53 | wizzyrea | lol |
| 18:58 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5079] Make display of shelving location and call number in XSLT results controlled by sysprefs <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5079> |
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| 19:00 | Oak | this is good song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v[…]player_detailpage |
| 19:00 | good noght | |
| 19:00 | crap | |
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| 19:34 | library_systems_guy | sekjal: let me know how that patch test goes would you? |
| 19:36 | sekjal | library_systems_guy: sure thing |
| 19:37 | library_systems_guy | awesome :D idk why im so nervous about this patch lol |
| 19:39 | sekjal | well, as far as new features go, it's not insubstantial, and it'll be handy for lots of libraries. it's also a lot of nuanced work, so it's take some iterative development to get to where it is now |
| 19:41 | library_systems_guy | I hope it helps a lot. I know we got a lot of complains about the way availability was ordered to it seemed more natural to have it in a location |
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| 19:42 | sekjal | I think it'll help distinguish between what's available and where its shelved (two very distinct bits of data) |
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| 20:50 | library_systems_guy | does anybody else have a div around their advanced search form? |
| 20:50 | I thought that was one of the first commits i did | |
| 20:51 | but for some reason its gone :'( | |
| 20:52 | jcamins | library_systems_guy: it shows up in git log. |
| 20:52 | library_systems_guy | hmm |
| 20:52 | jcamins | library_systems_guy: it's there. |
| 20:52 | library_systems_guy | odd |
| 20:53 | sekjal | library_systems_guy: is your local branch synced to current master's HEAD? |
| 20:53 | jcamins | body/div#doc3/div#bd/div#yui-main |
| 20:53 | library_systems_guy | yes it is sekjal |
| 20:54 | sekjal | huh, very strange |
| 20:54 | library_systems_guy | oh |
| 20:54 | i know what it is | |
| 20:54 | i modified the yui libs | |
| 20:54 | but deleted my changes | |
| 20:54 | * library_systems_guy | doesn't like the yui format |
| 21:00 | library_systems_guy | when you guys write css/js code in prefs do you write them somewhere else first and paste them in? |
| 21:01 | jcamins | Generally I test it in the Inspect Element console, then copy it in. |
| 21:01 | library_systems_guy | ahh |
| 21:01 | i was thinking about writing a js function to make ctrl + s submit the form | |
| 21:02 | because i press it out of habit all the time | |
| 21:12 | wizzyrea | jcamins: http://www.changethethought.co[…]ent/getoverit.gif |
| 21:12 | jcamins | Hehe. |
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| 21:58 | pianohacker | hola |
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