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| 00:09 | chris_n | anō koha... 3.4.2 |
| 00:11 | Space_Librarian | chris_n ++ |
| 00:13 | talljoy is now known as talljoy_away | |
| 00:18 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 12 for job Koha_3.4.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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| 00:58 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.4.x build #12: SUCCESS in 40 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.4.x/12/ |
| 00:58 | * oleonard: Fix for Bug 6501 - missing scroll bar when updating child | |
| 00:58 | * oleonard: Alternate fix for Bug 6522 - search result list broken | |
| 00:58 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6501 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Missing scroll bar when updating child |
| 00:58 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6522 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, dev_patches, ASSIGNED , Search result list misaligned columns if AmazonCoverImages is off | |
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| 02:20 | druthb | o/ |
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| 02:37 | Judit1 | hullo |
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| 03:50 | Amit_Gupta | heya all Good morning ;) |
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| 03:55 | cait | morning#koha |
| 03:55 | eythian | you're up early |
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| 03:56 | cait | morning hdl |
| 03:56 | eythian: not that early | |
| 03:56 | eythian | <6am is the middle of the night |
| 03:57 | Judit1 | :) so right |
| 03:57 | cait | hm k |
| 03:58 | druthb | hi, cait. :) |
| 03:58 | cait | I doubt druthb should be awake |
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| 04:08 | * Oak | waves |
| 04:08 | druthb | hi, Oak! |
| 04:08 | * druthb | offers cookies. |
| 04:08 | Oak | hello druthb :) |
| 04:09 | * Oak | takes cookie and runs away |
| 04:10 | druthb | :P |
| 04:11 | no need to run away! | |
| 04:11 | Oak | cait not around? |
| 04:11 | druthb | she is |
| 04:11 | cait | I am |
| 04:11 | but I am not going to take the cookies away from you | |
| 04:11 | * cait | isn't that mean |
| 04:12 | Oak | ah, good |
| 04:12 | * Oak | offers cait half cookie |
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| 04:20 | cait | thx |
| 04:21 | Oak | oh don't mention. that's what friends are for. eat wisely. don't drop any crumbs on floor. |
| 04:22 | druthb, what happened to bug 1234 :) | |
| 04:22 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1234 enhancement, P2, ---, paul.poulain, NEW , Parameter: Bar Code # Prefix for book / patron searching |
| 04:23 | druthb | I got some basic bits working, but autogenerating codes is *not* working at the moment, for reasons that are unclear to me. |
| 04:23 | Oak | ah, a mysterious bug. i like it. |
| 04:24 | requires detective work to be fixed! | |
| 04:24 | not just mad perl skills | |
| 04:25 | druthb | by the time I got that much done, it was 1 AM, and I'd been working for 19 hours with two short breaks. Brain was *fried.* |
| 04:26 | (So I went to bed for five hours, then got up and did it *again*.... ) | |
| 04:26 | cait | I hope you don't mean 19 hours again? |
| 04:27 | Oak | 19 hours again is not nice. it's like punishing your brain and body. and eyes. |
| 04:28 | besides, if you can't figure something out after hours of trying, the best idea is to go for a walk :) | |
| 04:28 | or sleep on it | |
| 04:30 | cait | I agree withOak |
| 04:30 | go to bed | |
| 04:31 | druthb | If this bib extract I'm running works--and so far, it is--then I'll get it started loading into the test box, and go to bed. |
| 04:45 | hooray! It worked. | |
| 04:45 | * druthb | dances off to bed. |
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| 04:45 | Oak | comical |
| 04:45 | cait | hope she stays there for more than 5 hours |
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| 05:00 | Rivirin | hiya all |
| 05:00 | Rivirin is now known as Waylon | |
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| 05:05 | Waylon | okay.... hosted servers are liveserver1 and liveserver2, ideally id like to circular replicate... only a office server is used for biblio adding/updates due to the office being on ADSL.. office staff would get fustrated with latency and if adsl goes down, office can still function. Problem with this.. how do i get the updates into the circular replication, without the office being inside the |
| 05:05 | loop? my idea, is a script on liveserver1 gets a list of changed biblios from zebraqueue table, and selects the biblios/biblioitems/items from office server, updates the liveservers with them.... what do you think? | |
| 05:08 | eythian | zebraqueue is cleared when zebra reindexes (I expect), so you'll miss changes. |
| 05:08 | I think it'll get terribly out of sync very quickly. | |
| 05:09 | on the other hand, I'm not sure of another solution | |
| 05:09 | Waylon | Hmm.. so i need to write a sub for change notifications. |
| 05:10 | put it inside modbibliomarc. | |
| 05:10 | eythian | if mysql can do triggers yet, you could have everything that goes into zebraqueue also go into another table |
| 05:12 | Waylon | yeah.... interesting.. |
| 05:13 | eythian | although, I'd say try your staff over the ADSL connection. Perhaps have a local squid proxy or something, perhaps it won't be too slow. |
| 05:14 | Waylon | hmm.. though.. they're moving office.. and will only be able to have wireless.. so even more a bad idea... |
| 05:14 | eythian | what's wrong with wireless? |
| 05:14 | Waylon | triggers... could work. |
| 05:15 | eythian | probably lower latency than ADSL, given telecom keeps the interleave time high |
| 05:16 | Waylon | not in new zealand.. so i have no idea how reliable. |
| 05:16 | eythian | oh right |
| 05:16 | Judit1 | hi, sorry to interrupt |
| 05:17 | but you know the list you can create inKoha | |
| 05:17 | Waylon | hi, judit1. |
| 05:17 | Judit1 | if you choose to create a public list, that means it is public to all branches |
| 05:17 | so patrons from different branches can see it too- sinceit is public | |
| 05:18 | eythian | yes |
| 05:18 | unsure if 'IndependentBranches' affects this or not though. | |
| 05:19 | I think it probably should... | |
| 05:19 | but whether it does is a different story. | |
| 05:19 | Judit1 | okay |
| 05:19 | so is there a setting i should check, you are telling | |
| 05:20 | eythian | yes, but beware that that will affect a large amount of how the system behaves. |
| 05:20 | so you probably won't actually want to change it. | |
| 05:20 | Judit1 | which tab is this IndependentBranches in? |
| 05:21 | eythian | not sure. Use the search box :) |
| 05:21 | Judit1 | okay, thanks for the warning |
| 05:21 | eythian | I think it's spelt wrong in the pref |
| 05:21 | Judit1 | No system preferences matched your search for IndependentBranches. |
| 05:21 | :) | |
| 05:21 | eythian | IndependantBranches |
| 05:22 | Judit1 | dont prevent it says |
| 05:22 | staff (but not superlibrarians) from modifying objects (holds, items, patrons, etc.) belonging to other libraries. | |
| 05:22 | eythian | OK |
| 05:22 | So basically, yes. Lists in one place are visible elsewhere. | |
| 05:22 | Judit1 | so if that is set to prevent- my list would be public to the branch it created it |
| 05:22 | eythian | maybe. |
| 05:23 | Judit1 | :) |
| 05:23 | eythian | if it was coded like that, and I think it should be, but don't know that it is. |
| 05:24 | Judit1 | thank you |
| 05:25 | Waylon | yeah.. triggers will work... could just make it do timestamp, biblio that was changed |
| 05:25 | eythian | @marc 942$c |
| 05:25 | huginn | eythian: unknown tag 942$c |
| 05:25 | eythian | @marc 942 |
| 05:25 | huginn | eythian: unknown tag 942 |
| 05:25 | Waylon | @marc 42 |
| 05:25 | huginn | Waylon: unknown tag 42 |
| 05:25 | Waylon | @marc 47 |
| 05:25 | huginn | Waylon: unknown tag 47 |
| 05:27 | cait | 9xx are local |
| 05:28 | not marc standard | |
| 05:28 | Waylon | isn't 942 where biblionumbers are stored? |
| 05:28 | cait | and lists behaviour is not changed by independentbranches - i think public is always public to all. not sure it should be different. |
| 05:28 | eythian | yeah, I realised that a moment later |
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| 05:28 | kmkale | Namaskar #koha |
| 05:28 | cait | hi kmkale |
| 05:28 | :) | |
| 05:29 | eythian | cait: it would seem strange seeing stuff in a library you don't have any access to. But unless someone asks me to change it, I've got plenty to keep me busy :) |
| 05:29 | kmkale | Namaste cait |
| 05:29 | eythian | hi kmkale |
| 05:29 | kmkale | Namaste eythian |
| 05:29 | cait | eythian: sometimes you might be able to order it |
| 05:29 | and people will want it to display - so it will get really complicated | |
| 05:30 | and what will you show to people not logged in? | |
| 05:30 | eythian | well, I'd just make it its own syspref or something |
| 05:30 | cait | lists show always |
| 05:30 | eythian | hmm, that's a good point |
| 05:34 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 05:34 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 19.8�C (7:30 AM CEST on June 29, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 16.0�C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013.1 hPa (Steady). |
| 05:34 | cait | hm |
| 05:35 | hmm. supposed to rain today... | |
| 05:36 | eyhian: not saying it's impossible to solve - but will get complicated :) | |
| 05:37 | Oak | @wunder Islamabad |
| 05:37 | huginn | Oak: The current temperature in Islamabad, Pakistan is 28.0�C (10:00 AM PKT on June 29, 2011). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: 24.0�C. Pressure: 29.53 in 1000 hPa (Steady). |
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| 05:52 | kmkale | hey bob |
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| 05:58 | kmkale | We are about to have a Kohacon11 Volunteers meeting here |
| 06:00 | #startmeeting | |
| 06:00 | huginn | Meeting started Wed Jun 29 06:00:17 2011 UTC. The chair is kmkale. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 06:00 | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. | |
| 06:00 | kmkale | #topic Agenda |
| 06:00 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]dnesday_June_29_6.00_UTC | |
| 06:00 | #introductions | |
| 06:00 | #topic introductions | |
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| 06:01 | francharb | hello |
| 06:01 | BobB | hi kmkale, I'm here now |
| 06:02 | kmkale | hi Bob |
| 06:02 | seems you and I are the only ones :( | |
| 06:02 | cait | :( |
| 06:03 | BobB | Hmmm.. who are we expecting? |
| 06:03 | * Oak | offers kmkale one cookie |
| 06:04 | BobB | Hi Oak. Have we met? |
| 06:04 | Oak | i have not met anyone from here :| |
| 06:04 | but, Hi BobB :) | |
| 06:04 | where are you form? | |
| 06:05 | BobB | Ah, then you must come to KohaCon11 in Thane, India! |
| 06:05 | kmkale | rangi, jronson, amitgupta, Thomas Dukleth, MJ Ray, paul |
| 06:05 | BobB | I'm in Sydney Australia. You? |
| 06:05 | kmkale | have indicated they might be present |
| 06:05 | Oak | Islamabad, Pakistan. |
| 06:05 | :) | |
| 06:05 | cait | kmkale: rangi might still be travelling |
| 06:05 | kmkale | ok |
| 06:06 | BobB | Lets see if they answer that prompt... |
| 06:06 | kmkale | lets wait for a few minutes else call it off |
| 06:07 | BobB | For the record, can we confirm the dates? The conference proper is from 31 October to 2 Nov. Correct? |
| 06:07 | Then a day off? | |
| 06:07 | kmkale | Correct BobB |
| 06:07 | BobB | Then the hackfest from 4 Nov? |
| 06:07 | kmkale | then a hackfest |
| 06:08 | BobB | What are the dates for the hackfest? |
| 06:09 | kmkale | 4, 5, may be 6 and if people want to stay I have classrooms available for the next full week |
| 06:09 | alex_a | hello |
| 06:09 | wahanui | bonjour, alex_a |
| 06:09 | BobB | OK, thanks. We have to book our travel. |
| 06:10 | Have any hotel arrangements been made? | |
| 06:10 | kmkale | yes please do. Let me know if you need any accommodation assistance |
| 06:11 | http://kohacon11.vpmthane.org/[…]onf/accommodation | |
| 06:11 | BobB: ^^ | |
| 06:11 | BobB | Great, I'll look at that later. Thanks. |
| 06:12 | slef | hi all. Sorry I'm late. |
| 06:12 | kmkale | Good morning slef |
| 06:12 | BobB | Hi slef, good afternoon too. |
| 06:13 | Are Oak, cait, alex_a or wahauni here for the meeting? | |
| 06:13 | kmkale | wahanui is a bot BobB |
| 06:13 | BobB | ..or just hanging out? |
| 06:14 | Cool. Probably won't contribute too much to the discussion then? | |
| 06:14 | kmkale | nope |
| 06:14 | Oak | me hanging. will keep quiet though. please proceed. |
| 06:14 | slef | #info MJ Ray, worker-member of http://www.software.coop |
| 06:14 | kmkale | ok so its kmkale BobB slef present |
| 06:15 | with Oak and cait hanging | |
| 06:15 | so shall we have a meeting or cancel? | |
| 06:15 | BobB | Is that a quorum? |
| 06:15 | kmkale | hardly |
| 06:15 | BobB | kmkale, do you have anything you need urgently resolved? |
| 06:16 | kmkale | nope |
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| 06:16 | BobB | Then when is the next community meeting? |
| 06:16 | paul_p | hello world, sorry to be a little bit late (problem to connect the internet from the hotel...) |
| 06:16 | kmkale | hi paul_p |
| 06:16 | ok now we have 4 members :) | |
| 06:17 | I guess thats good enough | |
| 06:17 | ? | |
| 06:17 | BobB | bonjour paul_p |
| 06:17 | alex_a | BobB: a meeting ? |
| 06:17 | wahanui | a meeting is 14 June 2011 1800 UTC+0 |
| 06:17 | kmkale | Agenda for today is at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]dnesday_June_29_6.00_UTC |
| 06:18 | BobB | Thanks w_bot. But we've missed it! |
| 06:18 | OK, June 29 | |
| 06:18 | kmkale | paul_p slef BobB shall we have this meeting today or have it as part of text general irc meeting on July 6th? |
| 06:18 | *next | |
| 06:18 | slef | wahanui: forget a meeting |
| 06:18 | wahanui | slef: I forgot meeting |
| 06:18 | BobB | What if we make KohaCon11 a priority agenda item for that meeting? We might get more there? |
| 06:19 | kmkale | not sure we can if people are not interested :( |
| 06:19 | paul_p | I think we're here so we could/should have our meeting |
| 06:19 | slef | I think you'll get more there, but personally my attendance is uncertain. |
| 06:19 | paul_p | (now) |
| 06:19 | kmkale | July 6th my attendance is not sure |
| 06:20 | paul_p | ok, so meeting now, definetly ;-) |
| 06:20 | BobB | Well, this is an important community event. The community has to be prepared to deal with it, if its listed for discussion. No? |
| 06:20 | kmkale | ok |
| 06:20 | slef | I think we're here so we could/should have our meeting and flag up anything we would like to also ask the general irc meeting on July 6th, so even if kmkale is not there, it can be asked. |
| 06:20 | kmkale | lets move on with the agenda then |
| 06:20 | paul_p | sleff++ |
| 06:20 | BobB | Agreed |
| 06:21 | paul_p | agreed |
| 06:21 | kmkale | #topic We need to get an idea about who / how many are coming for the Kohacon11 |
| 06:21 | Topic for #koha is now We need to get an idea about who / how many are coming for the Kohacon11 | |
| 06:22 | BobB | How many have registered? |
| 06:22 | paul_p | (note I must leave in 40mn, i've a training this week. Now i'm having breakfast with my laptop... eating french croissant near my keyboard...) |
| 06:22 | kmkale | I guess kmkale BobB paul_p are certainties ;) |
| 06:22 | BobB | avec cafe, j'espere |
| 06:22 | kmkale | BobB: about 130+ |
| 06:22 | paul_p | Bobb: nope, with chocolate, i don't like coffee. |
| 06:23 | BobB | Irma and I have not registered yet. But we are coming. Will register this weekend. |
| 06:23 | paul_p, that's allowed. | |
| 06:23 | paul_p | do I have registred ? not sure. but i'm coming |
| 06:23 | slef | 130 registered already? Cool |
| 06:23 | BobB | 130 is a good number, already |
| 06:24 | That's bigger than Wellington and probably Plano too | |
| 06:24 | So biggest KohaCon yet! | |
| 06:24 | paul_p | kmkale: how many from india, and how many from foreign countries ? |
| 06:24 | kmkale | Hope so. I was hoping for many more :( |
| 06:25 | http://kohacon11.vpmthane.org/[…]Conf/registration see the countrywise graph | |
| 06:25 | paul_p | kmkale: it's in 6 months ! many will register in september I think |
| 06:25 | matts_away is now known as matts | |
| 06:25 | paul_p | and maybe we should/could communicate a little bit more on the koha mailing lists, ... |
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| 06:25 | slef | #link http://kohacon11.vpmthane.org/[…]Conf/registration |
| 06:25 | kmkale | #idea communicate more on mailing lists |
| 06:25 | matts is now known as matts_away | |
| 06:26 | kmkale | agreed will start doing so |
| 06:26 | paul_p | which country is NG ? |
| 06:26 | NiGeria ? | |
| 06:26 | kmkale | yes |
| 06:27 | ok. A few people have asked us for formal invitation letters for obtaining visa | |
| 06:27 | paul_p | so, you can remove 20 attendees. I suspect most of them won't have the money to travel. In previous conferences, we had many registrations from Africa, then came the question "can you sponsor my travel"... |
| 06:27 | kmkale | if anyone needs those please let me know |
| 06:27 | paul_p | I think we may get a feww ppl from NG or Africa, but not 21 ! |
| 06:28 | BobB | Visa's were a problem in Wellington. Not for NZ so much, but for people wanting to transit Australia. |
| 06:28 | kmkale | paul_p: 2 from NG have requested invitation letters. So those 2 look certain |
| 06:28 | paul_p | well, no one from France, so i haven't registered yet ;-) |
| 06:29 | kmkale | I am traveling to Kenya next week so will speak about the conference to the library people there :) |
| 06:29 | BobB | #idea: warn people to arrange their visas early |
| 06:29 | kmkale +1 | |
| 06:29 | kmkale | BobB: yes. getting visa sorted out early is a good idea |
| 06:29 | ok shall we move on to the next item on the agenda? | |
| 06:30 | BobB | yes |
| 06:30 | paul_p | OK, i've registered now |
| 06:30 | kmkale | #topic We need more papers / presentations |
| 06:30 | Topic for #koha is now We need more papers / presentations | |
| 06:31 | kmkale | slef: are you coming? |
| 06:31 | lets discuss 2a also with this topic | |
| 06:31 | #idea Since we don't have many papers and there are abstracts waiting to be reviewed for very long, I propose we abolish reviews and accept the abstracts and papers without any review system. | |
| 06:31 | slef | kmkale: not unless we get more clients, or people use http://www.software.coop/info/give/ a lot more. |
| 06:33 | kmkale | slef: would you like to make a remote presentation if you absolutely cant make it? I think people would like to know about how software.coop works. Its a novelty here |
| 06:33 | matts_away is now known as matts | |
| 06:33 | BobB | I think there should be some review. |
| 06:34 | I could help with that, but not until August, realistically | |
| 06:34 | slef | kmkale: One of us would, if you think it would be liked. I bought a camera which can be used as a webcam last week, but I have not yet used it as that, so I cannot help with technical requirements yet. |
| 06:34 | paul_p | I think there should be at least a small review, to eliminate out of topic propositions |
| 06:34 | kmkale | I have assigned reviewers from people who had registered for the job. But the reviewers have not responded to the review requests or reminders about it |
| 06:35 | so may be you guys can take this pointb up in the general meeting? | |
| 06:35 | slef | kmkale: have I been assigned to review some? |
| 06:35 | kmkale | that we need reviewers to look at the abstracts? |
| 06:36 | paul_p | for example, what does "information literacy and lbrary and information science" contains ? |
| 06:36 | kmkale | slef: you have full admin rights remember? You can self assign if you are interested in any topic |
| 06:36 | paul_p | sounds very vague to me... |
| 06:36 | slef | paul_p: needs abstract to know. |
| 06:36 | kmkale | paul_p: that has been reviewed by Space_Librarian and an updated abstract has been called for |
| 06:37 | slef | kmkale: I know, but I am unsure if I should do so. |
| 06:37 | kmkale | slef: please do if you have the time and inclination |
| 06:37 | paul_p | slef & kmkale : right |
| 06:37 | kmkale: i've registered as "tipaul". Could you give me permission to review pls ? | |
| 06:37 | kmkale | yes paul_p sure |
| 06:38 | slef | ok |
| 06:38 | BobB | I'm happy to make a presentation, but I'm struggling to find the right topic. |
| 06:39 | An update on my governance paper from Wellington might not be right for the audience | |
| 06:39 | paul_p | as we have more than 1 room, i've suggested kmkale to have one dedicated to "koha demo". With one session=one module (acquisition / circulating / ...) |
| 06:40 | kmkale | yes paul_p but the conference venue is in a self contained building ghousing the hall and canteen |
| 06:41 | if we need another room / hall it will have to be a separate building | |
| 06:41 | is that ok? | |
| 06:41 | BobB | How far away? |
| 06:41 | kmkale | for hackfest I can get adjoining classrooms |
| 06:41 | BobB: about 50 feet | |
| 06:42 | BobB | Well that's not far |
| 06:42 | paul_p | so it's nothing (except you must count 15mn between each session to change room/building |
| 06:42 | cait left #koha | |
| 06:42 | kmkale | yes. We can have boards declaring way to conference and way to demo etc |
| 06:43 | paul_p | kmkale: for the main conference, don't we have 4 rooms already ? /me remember reading or speaking of this previously... |
| 06:44 | kmkale | paul_p: yes if needed. The main hall can accomodate about 250 |
| 06:44 | if we exceed that we can get more halls | |
| 06:44 | but all halls are in separate buildings on the campus | |
| 06:44 | alll halls are interconnected with polycom 2 way video conferencing uints | |
| 06:45 | paul_p | kmkale: I think it could be usefull to have more than 1 course at a given time. "i'm not interested in Koha circulation module, OK, I go to 'how to migrate from ILS-XXX to Koha' " |
| 06:45 | kmkale | paul_p: I agree but we dont have enough presenters to fill one hall for three days. if we split the conference will be over in a day |
| 06:45 | :( | |
| 06:46 | paul_p | (of course, this is possible only if we have enough papers ;-) ) |
| 06:46 | BobB | Then we go to Agra? :) |
| 06:46 | paul_p | kmkale: don't be too anxious : many more ppl will register and more ppl will propose topics. |
| 06:47 | kmkale | I request you to take this up in the next general meeting and put out a call or papers and for people to attend |
| 06:47 | paul_p | we're 6 months ahead from the conference, and geeks don't like to plan too early... |
| 06:47 | BobB | Yes, but we should also set a timeframe. |
| 06:47 | kmkale | paul_p: I will ne in Kenya next week. But once I am back |
| 06:47 | paul_p | kmkale: yep, we will. |
| 06:47 | BobB | ..for papers at least |
| 06:47 | kmkale | I plan to send out reminders about the call for papers etc |
| 06:48 | paul_p | kmkale++ |
| 06:48 | kmkale | paul_p: I have enrolled you as a riviewer |
| 06:49 | BobB | I think until there is a draft program, many people won't get motivated to register and make their plans |
| 06:49 | kmkale | Shall we move on to 3) Start working on conference schedule as per papers / abstracts already submitted or committed that it will be done ? |
| 06:49 | ok that brings us to 3 nicely :) | |
| 06:49 | #topic Start working on conference schedule as per papers / abstracts already submitted or committed that it will be done | |
| 06:49 | Topic for #koha is now Start working on conference schedule as per papers / abstracts already submitted or committed that it will be done | |
| 06:49 | kmkale | Joann has graciously agreed to do the keynote :) |
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| 06:50 | kmkale | and we have 6 or 7 papers, so shal we start a draft of the program? |
| 06:50 | or is it too early? | |
| 06:50 | paul_p | I agree with bobb. we should start a draft program |
| 06:50 | slef | if they're different topics, we could |
| 06:50 | magnus_away is now known as magnuse | |
| 06:50 | kmkale | slef: they are |
| 06:51 | paul_p | that will motivate ppl to register and submit papers. |
| 06:51 | BobB | Before the keynote, will there be some sort of official welcome? |
| 06:51 | kmkale | BobB: yes |
| 06:52 | BobB | Cool. Even people from India may not have been to Maharastra before, so some sort of 'welcome to country' would be a nice touch. |
| 06:52 | kmkale | any ideas about how the program should be arranged? Or should I go ahead and make a draft based on past discussions and papers and send it out on the lists as draft? |
| 06:53 | there *WILL* be some speeches by VPM people at the start for welcome and introductions and also at the end for thanks giving etc I guess | |
| 06:53 | we are planning a cultural event on one evening | |
| 06:53 | paul_p | I think there should be a part dedicated to Koha itself (history / features / future), a part dedicated to technical things, and a part dedicated to OpenSource in general (integrating Koha with other OSS) |
| 06:54 | kmkale | and if we get sponsors a conference dinner |
| 06:54 | BobB | 1. Welcome to Thane 2. Welcome to KohaCon11 3. Keynote |
| 06:54 | Cultural event ++ | |
| 06:54 | kmkale | BobB: yes |
| 06:55 | slef | paul_p: s/OSS/FOSS |
| 06:55 | * paul_p | must leave in less than 10mn |
| 06:55 | BobB | 4. Morning break. 5. First paper. 6. Second paper. 7. Lunch |
| 06:55 | kmkale | 3 a ) If some people would like to make a remote presentation I need to know what facilities will be required on our side |
| 06:55 | BobB | (I like lunch) |
| 06:55 | slef | ok, I'm sure this is old news. 3 days - how many sessions each day? |
| 06:55 | kmkale | :) |
| 06:55 | paul_p | didn't we say 4 or 6 ? |
| 06:55 | kmkale | slef: three |
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| 06:56 | kmkale | morning noon and post tea break |
| 06:56 | two papers per session | |
| 06:56 | slef | start and end times for each? |
| 06:56 | paul_p | OK, 6 papers per day then. ageed |
| 06:56 | BobB | Do all presentations need to be one hour? |
| 06:56 | kmkale | morning 9.30 am |
| 06:56 | post lunch 1.30 pm | |
| 06:57 | slef | yeah, one at a time, please |
| 06:57 | kmkale | post tea 3.00 pm ??? |
| 06:57 | slef | morning 9.30- when? |
| 06:57 | 11? | |
| 06:57 | wahanui | 11 is totally tolerable |
| 06:57 | slef | wahanui: botsnack |
| 06:57 | wahanui | :) |
| 06:57 | kmkale | slef: are you porposing that we start the morning sessions at 11am? |
| 06:58 | *proposing | |
| 06:58 | slef | no, end the first session at 11 |
| 06:58 | for coffee break | |
| 06:58 | kmkale | we can if we start at 9.00 |
| 06:58 | slef | or tea, I guess, in India |
| 06:58 | kmkale | yup |
| 06:58 | ok how about this | |
| 06:58 | wahanui | i guess this is a lost case |
| 06:58 | kmkale | start at 10 have one paper |
| 06:59 | slef | then a short session 11.15-12.15, then 13.30-14.30, then 15.00-16.30? |
| 06:59 | paul_p | starting at 10 is late according to me (but it depends on indian usual hours) |
| 06:59 | kmkale | break for tea start again at 11.30 have one more paper break at 12.30 |
| 06:59 | break for lunch 12.30 to 1.30 | |
| 06:59 | 1.30 to 2.30 one more paper | |
| 07:00 | 2.30 to 2.45 tea break? | |
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| 07:00 | kmkale | then two papers on the trot from 2.45 to 4.45 |
| 07:00 | how does that sound? | |
| 07:00 | clrh | hi |
| 07:00 | wahanui | niihau, clrh |
| 07:01 | BobB | Its time for paul_p to go, and I must soon also |
| 07:01 | kmkale | VPM usually starts at 9.00 |
| 07:01 | slef | so that's 10-11.15, 11.30-12.30, 13.30-14.30, 14.45-16.45 |
| 07:01 | BobB | Then we shouldn't start later than 9.30 in my opinion |
| 07:01 | paul_p | sounds OK, except for the starting time. |
| 07:01 | I think 9:30 is better too. | |
| 07:02 | slef | yeah, I'd put the 2h slot first, making it 9.15-11.15, with a longer tea break in afternoon |
| 07:02 | paul_p | and havin 1hour 1/2 for the lunch break |
| 07:02 | kmkale | slef: I agree for the two hour slot early morning |
| 07:02 | people are fresh | |
| 07:02 | paul_p | for a large audience, just 1 hour for the lunch break won't be enough |
| 07:02 | slef | 9.15-11.15, 11.30-12.30, 14.00-15.00, 15.30-16.30? |
| 07:02 | kmkale | slef++ |
| 07:03 | slef | this is for 31st, 1st and 2nd? |
| 07:03 | paul_p | you discuss 5mn with the speaker, you find your colleague/friend, you head for a restaurant... it's already too late ! |
| 07:03 | kmkale | slef: yes |
| 07:03 | paul_p | slef++ |
| 07:03 | slef | ok, I'm creating the schedule time blocks |
| 07:03 | kmkale | so we need 18 papers |
| 07:03 | atleast | |
| 07:04 | #topic accommodation assistance if required | |
| 07:04 | Topic for #koha is now accommodation assistance if required | |
| 07:04 | kmkale | http://kohacon11.vpmthane.org/[…]onf/accommodation |
| 07:04 | also let me know if anyone need invitation letters etc for visa | |
| 07:04 | slef | #link http://kohacon11.vpmthane.org/[…]onf/accommodation |
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| 07:05 | kmkale | guys thats it from my side. Any questions? |
| 07:06 | slef | only what we need to ask next general meeting? |
| 07:06 | BobB | Well, given we almost cancelled, we've had a productive meeting, i think |
| 07:06 | kmkale | we need papers and riviewers |
| 07:06 | BobB | and registrations! |
| 07:06 | paul_p | slef: we need paper submission and reviewers |
| 07:06 | kmkale | yep them too :) |
| 07:06 | so if you could drive that in the next general meeting | |
| 07:07 | I will be most grateful :) | |
| 07:07 | BobB | We'll try to whip up some enthusiasm at the next general meeting |
| 07:07 | kmkale | shall we close? |
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| 07:07 | BobB | Then we should meet a week after that? |
| 07:07 | slef | public schedule is still blank, but admins can see http://kohacon11.vpmthane.org/[…]anager/timeBlocks now |
| 07:08 | kmkale | good work slef :) |
| 07:08 | slef++ | |
| 07:08 | BobB | slef + |
| 07:08 | slef | BobB: yes, a short meeting to see what effect trying to whip up has had, and decide what to do next about that? |
| 07:09 | BobB | +1 |
| 07:09 | kmkale | are we missing one block on 1st? |
| 07:09 | paul_p | slef++, but i not admin yet, so can't see... |
| 07:09 | slef | kmkale: hrm, possible. I'll go fix |
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| 07:09 | paul_p | slef++, but i'm not admin yet, so can't see... |
| 07:09 | kmkale | ok time and dat for that meeting? |
| 07:09 | paul_p: would you like admin rights? | |
| 07:10 | paul_p | ok, it's really time to leave for me. Or i'll be late at my training ! |
| 07:10 | kmkale | bye paul_p |
| 07:10 | paul_p | kmkale: yep. |
| 07:10 | kmkale | ok will do |
| 07:10 | paul_p | (it could be usefull I think) |
| 07:10 | slef | bye paul_p |
| 07:10 | BobB | thanks Paul, cheers |
| 07:10 | kmkale | ok time and date for that meeting? |
| 07:10 | or a doodle poll again? | |
| 07:10 | BobB | General meeting is when? |
| 07:11 | slef | kmkale: is this the opening keynote? Joann Ransom, Save the time of the reader |
| 07:11 | paul_p | kmkale, doodle pool I think. |
| 07:11 | slef | BobB: 6 july, 18 UTC I think. |
| 07:11 | * paul_p | leave now. |
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| 07:11 | kmkale | slef: yes |
| 07:11 | unless she chooses a different topic for the keynote and does this topis as a sseparate presentation | |
| 07:12 | slef | kmkale: ok if I accept it and schedule it to the first block for now? |
| 07:12 | kmkale | yes slef |
| 07:12 | BobB | The following week is moving about, for me. So Doodle poll, I think. But that week. |
| 07:12 | kmkale | slef: i guess it should be 2nd lecture of first morning |
| 07:12 | slef | http://kohacon11.vpmthane.org/[…]bmissionsAccepted just gave me 404 not found :-/ |
| 07:12 | kmkale | the first hour will be welcome and intros etc i guess |
| 07:13 | slef: none have been accepted yet as even Jo has not submitted a full paper | |
| 07:13 | just an abstract | |
| 07:13 | slef | still, 404 is a bit of an odd reply |
| 07:13 | kmkale | which has been approved so she has to submit a paper which once approved will come under submissions accepted |
| 07:14 | slef: will take a look at it | |
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| 07:14 | BobB | I too have to go now. OK? |
| 07:15 | slef | #action kmkale to poll for next meeting |
| 07:15 | kmkale | bye BobB |
| 07:15 | ok so end meeting?> | |
| 07:15 | slef | yep, we have lost all people |
| 07:15 | BobB | kmkale: bye and thanks - good meeting! |
| 07:15 | cheers slef | |
| 07:15 | kmkale | #endmeeting |
| 07:16 | Topic for #koha is now Koha 3.4.2 and 3.2.10 are now available | Next IRC meeting 6 July 2011 10:00 UTC+0 | http://koha-community.org/ | This channel is logged | Pastes at http://paste.koha-community.org/ | |
| 07:16 | huginn | Meeting ended Wed Jun 29 07:15:47 2011 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
| 07:16 | Minutes: http://librarypolice.com/koha-[…]-06-29-06.00.html | |
| 07:16 | Minutes (text): http://librarypolice.com/koha-[…]1-06-29-06.00.txt | |
| 07:16 | Log: http://librarypolice.com/koha-[…]29-06.00.log.html | |
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| 07:18 | kf | hi there |
| 07:18 | magnuse | kia ora #koha |
| 07:18 | Oak | kf |
| 07:18 | slef | kmkale: I can't schedule Joann's paper. Must I wait for the full paper? |
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| 07:18 | kmkale | slef: yes |
| 07:19 | slef | well that sucks |
| 07:19 | :) | |
| 07:19 | kf | Oak |
| 07:19 | kmkale | slef: we can change the conference settings to allow for non submission of full papers. But do we want to? |
| 07:20 | I dont | |
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| 07:20 | kmkale | We want to print a souvenir from all papers and distribute it to all attendees :) |
| 07:21 | slef | kmkale: can we change it back later? I think showing something on the schedule now would encourage registrations and other papers |
| 07:21 | kmkale | Or atleast give a CD with them so we need full papers beforehand |
| 07:21 | slef: let me have a look | |
| 07:21 | slef | kmkale: ok. I've got to go now before I starve. |
| 07:21 | kmkale | bye slef and thanks |
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| 07:30 | kmkale_ | @later tell slef I could not change the compulsion for the paper submission. Please take a look at options available at http://kohacon11.vpmthane.org/[…]/schedConfSetup/2 |
| 07:30 | huginn | kmkale_: The operation succeeded. |
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| 08:07 | jransom | hi all |
| 08:07 | thought there was a kohacon11 meeting on now ... | |
| 08:08 | mucked up the time conversions again! | |
| 08:08 | matts is now known as matts_away | |
| 08:12 | matts_away is now known as matts | |
| 08:14 | slef | hi jransom, you did a bit. |
| 08:14 | jransom: http://librarypolice.com/koha-[…]-06-29-06.00.html | |
| 08:14 | jransom | when was it? |
| 08:14 | coz i checked the conversion calendar, and raced home from a restaurant | |
| 08:15 | and was certain i had it right | |
| 08:15 | slef | 2h ago |
| 08:15 | jransom | oh heck |
| 08:15 | ok - well i have to get this better organised. | |
| 08:15 | slef | do you have a Linux? date -d '06:00 UTC' should do the conversion for you |
| 08:15 | jransom | wonder if daylight saving had some impact |
| 08:15 | not linux. | |
| 08:15 | slef | get one :) |
| 08:16 | jransom | i know |
| 08:16 | i should | |
| 08:16 | slef | to be fair, you can probably get date for Windows... and Mac OS X has it already too |
| 08:17 | jransom | only 3 people ? |
| 08:17 | i feel even worse now .... | |
| 08:17 | slef | 4... paul_p arrived late |
| 08:17 | jransom | still ... |
| 08:17 | slef | yeah, not top performance |
| 08:17 | but we put the schedule framework up | |
| 08:17 | jransom | you reckon this conference will get off the ground? |
| 08:18 | i bloody hope so - having paid for tickets and accommodation | |
| 08:18 | slef | kmkale said 130 registrations so there are enough people |
| 08:18 | jransom | cool - thats good. |
| 08:18 | slef | the problem is encouraging enough talks |
| 08:18 | jransom | just cnference speakers then |
| 08:18 | slef | I feel that posting a schedule outline may help. |
| 08:18 | mtj | heya pholks |
| 08:18 | jransom | wonder what the hesitation is |
| 08:18 | slef | Is the "save the time of the reader" your keynote, btw? |
| 08:19 | mtj | i've just booking my mumbai flights last week |
| 08:19 | jransom | heya mtj |
| 08:19 | who are you? | |
| 08:19 | slef | Well, I've no money left in our community budget since NZ and replacing a community server unexpectedly |
| 08:19 | wahanui: mtj? | |
| 08:19 | wahanui | i guess mtj is right :) |
| 08:19 | jransom | (not being rude - just that i don't know yu yet :) |
| 08:19 | slef | not helpful :) |
| 08:19 | mtj | jo - might see if i can stay in youse hotel, |
| 08:20 | jransom | mtj: who are you? |
| 08:20 | slef | mtj is from a kohaaloha box, so guess? |
| 08:20 | mtj: are you really on IRC as root, or does your computer fib? | |
| 08:20 | jransom | kohaaloha is mason |
| 08:21 | mtj | meh, my nick info isnt very helpful tho :/ |
| 08:21 | jransom | so you wont get there slef? |
| 08:21 | slef | jransom: not unless we get more clients or people give us money http://www.software.coop/info/give/ |
| 08:21 | jransom | thats a shame - i was looking forward to catching up again |
| 08:22 | mtj | slef: oooh, my irc proxy is running as root :/ |
| 08:22 | slef | mtj: ow! |
| 08:22 | jransom | mtj: is that bad? |
| 08:23 | mtj | yeah, its a liittle norty.. |
| 08:23 | slef | jransom: if there's a bug in his irc proxy, an attacker would get control of his whole server. |
| 08:23 | magnus_away is now known as magnuse | |
| 08:23 | jransom | hey magnus! |
| 08:23 | i'm trying to find the name of the hotel in mumbai | |
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| 08:24 | jransom | i'm crashing in with Brooke and Ruth mtj |
| 08:24 | magnuse | kia ora jransom! |
| 08:25 | slef | oh dear I hope I haven't just done what I think I have |
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| 08:26 | slef | phew... I hadn't |
| 08:26 | jransom | mtj - I'm crashing in on ruth and brooke |
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| 08:26 | slef | I thought I had deleted the schedule time blocks I spent 15mins or so creating earlier |
| 08:26 | magnuse | oops |
| 08:26 | jransom | i think we might be staying at vihang |
| 08:27 | spending week prior in Goa - well panjim actually | |
| 08:27 | magnuse | jransom: you said something about 3 weeks in india? |
| 08:27 | mtj left #koha | |
| 08:28 | jransom | yup. |
| 08:28 | spending week in Goa,then week in mumbai then a week catching train to Delhi - Agra etc | |
| 08:28 | slef | jransom: Is the "save the time of the reader" your keynote speech, btw? |
| 08:28 | magnuse | sounds like a good plan! |
| 08:29 | jransom | brooke and i are doing a roadie! |
| 08:29 | http://www.hotels.com/hotel/de[…]onId=677380&rooms[0].numberOfAdults=2&tab=reviews&arrivalDate=10-23-11&hotelId=307310&validate=false&destination=Panaji%2C+India&tab=description#description | |
| 08:29 | scrumptious :) | |
| 08:29 | no - thats another talk i'm doing about making configuration settings from the point of view of getting good results for patron | |
| 08:30 | i am doing keynote though | |
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| 08:30 | jransom | somewhat reluctantly as it is quite daunting preparing something stimulating and inspiring and miivational to this crowd |
| 08:30 | magnuse | all the talks are 1 hour? that's long... |
| 08:30 | jransom | i canttalk that long |
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| 08:31 | jransom | i can't even pronounce 'bed' so Paul can understand ! |
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| 08:31 | slef | jransom: ok, I'll deschedule save the time of the reader for now. |
| 08:31 | jransom | no - i m doing that too |
| 08:31 | if you want it | |
| 08:31 | magnuse | hehe, difiniiitli ;-) |
| 08:31 | slef | yes, we do, but I don't know when :) |
| 08:32 | I want to publish an outline schedule soon as, so that it encourages more registrations and submissions | |
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| 08:32 | slef | @later tell kmkale I found the problem. The scheduler doesn't work without javascript. Sorry for the confusion. |
| 08:32 | huginn | slef: The operation succeeded. |
| 08:33 | jransom | i'm very relaxed about scheduling and happy to not present too so however it pans out is fine |
| 08:34 | slef | magnuse: I let the "all the talks are 1 hour" go for now. We can fix that later when we have enough talks. |
| 08:34 | BobB | jransom: Hi |
| 08:34 | wahanui | salut, BobB |
| 08:35 | magnuse | slef: cool |
| 08:35 | slef | jransom: the opening keynote will be shorter anyway, because there's an intro from the hosts. |
| 08:35 | jransom | Hi Bob |
| 08:36 | BobB | sorry you missed the meeting |
| 08:36 | jransom | i am too! |
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| 08:36 | jransom | i actually really tried |
| 08:36 | but stuffed up the time conversion | |
| 08:36 | BobB | I use this to convert the times: http://www.timeanddate.com/wor[…]ck/converter.html |
| 08:36 | jransom | dragged the kids out the restaurant so id be home ontime ... |
| 08:36 | BobB | Unhappy kids? |
| 08:37 | jransom | no - they ok.just had to miss dessert |
| 08:37 | they'll live | |
| 08:37 | so any ideas for genberating talks? | |
| 08:37 | BobB | Do you know your hotel for KohaCon? In Mumbai or Thane? |
| 08:38 | jransom | yes - we in thane |
| 08:38 | Vihang i think | |
| 08:38 | Brooke knows | |
| 08:38 | i'm crashing in her room (budget really tight) | |
| 08:38 | we'll take turns on couch! | |
| 08:38 | BobB | Lots to see, so have to spread the money eh! |
| 08:39 | jransom | i'll plough through emails and find out |
| 08:39 | yep - excatly | |
| 08:39 | and we'll only sleep there | |
| 08:39 | BobB | Won't see you in Goa sadly - can't travel till Friday before the conference. Might go to Pune afterwards. |
| 08:40 | Would like to take Irma to Agra but don't think we have the time. | |
| 08:40 | Will you go on from Agra to Varanasi? THAT would be interesting! | |
| 08:42 | slef | jransom: apologies if you get a strange email about Save the Time... because I just stepped it back to in-review |
| 08:42 | Cool, we have our first entry on http://kohacon11.vpmthane.org/[…]chedConf/schedule | |
| 08:43 | jransom | ok - Vihangs' Inn |
| 08:43 | thats where brooke ruth and me are staying | |
| 08:43 | BobB | Thanks Jo. |
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| 08:43 | slef | I'll see if I can hack some other stuff into the schedule later this week. |
| 08:43 | magnuse | slef++ |
| 08:43 | BobB | Not many registrations from USA yet. I hope there'll be more. |
| 08:43 | jransom | yeah we going to agra too - i think its compulsory to visit taj mahal if in india |
| 08:44 | http://www.vihangsinn.com/ | |
| 08:44 | BobB | See it before you die! :) |
| 08:44 | The Taj, not Vihangs Inn. :) | |
| 08:44 | magnuse | hehe |
| 08:45 | jransom | i keep getting so excited about india! |
| 08:46 | lol - that programme looks really inspiring slef :) pity your keynote presenter couldnt come up with an inspiring name | |
| 08:46 | mtj | we are gonna try to stay at vihangs too |
| 08:46 | kf | jransom: looks nice |
| 08:46 | jransom | they were the first to respond accurately to brookes inquiries - which we took asa good sign |
| 08:47 | its look clean and modern which is fine - and is in Thane | |
| 08:48 | slef | hehehe just had a phone call telling me to send Nathan to go open the cellar so they could deliver some beer :) I told them the hotel's phone number that they wanted instead. |
| 08:49 | jransom | hehe |
| 08:51 | slef: is there a place where we can suggest papers / presentations we'd like to hear or see presented? | |
| 08:51 | or panel discussion topics? | |
| 08:52 | slef | jransom: two options: persuade people to put in a submission and say that you encouraged them to submit a paper/presentation; or raise it in one of the meetings. |
| 08:53 | jransom: I guess that's sort-of "no, not a formal one yet" | |
| 08:53 | BobB | Jo, I need a topic. Suggestions? |
| 08:53 | jransom | i'll put my thinking cap on. |
| 08:54 | magnuse | jransom: i put a wish under "Ideas for papers/wishlist" here: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ategory:KohaCon11 a long while ago, in lack of a better place |
| 08:54 | jransom | Maybe we could do that slef? |
| 08:54 | slef | eh? do what? :) |
| 08:55 | jransom | i quite like the idea of being able to add to a list of topics |
| 08:55 | set up a place where people can list topics etc they like to learn about | |
| 08:55 | it might generate people to step forward and sign up to present | |
| 08:56 | people might tae stinggranted what they do and not realise its inte | |
| 08:56 | oops | |
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| 08:56 | jransom | people might take for granted what they do and not realise people are interested |
| 08:56 | magnuse | good point! |
| 08:57 | slef | jransom: sure. I think magnuse's place is fine. What we need is an easy way for people to add to it, I think. |
| 08:57 | jransom | ok cool. |
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| 08:58 | jransom | lets post it to koha list |
| 08:58 | and link to it from koha-community site | |
| 08:58 | slef | actually, if I move that onto http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ry_talk:KohaCon11 then we get a groovy + button |
| 08:58 | ok if I do that magnuse ? | |
| 08:58 | I don't like talk pages really, but the + button is useful for this. | |
| 08:59 | magnuse | slef: fine with me! |
| 08:59 | since we don't tend to use tha talk pages much a message to the list might be a good idea | |
| 08:59 | slef | jransom: the link to add a suggestion is http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]=edit§ion=new |
| 09:00 | magnuse++ | |
| 09:00 | kf | magnuse++ indeed :) |
| 09:01 | magnuse | ooh |
| 09:01 | jransom | trying to load it .... |
| 09:02 | magnuse | slef: what's that about a + button? i don't see it... |
| 09:02 | slef | magnuse: logged in? |
| 09:02 | magnuse | yup |
| 09:03 | slef | oh the chuffing nonsense mediawiki bleargh Grr :) |
| 09:03 | magnuse | hehe |
| 09:03 | mib_gle66c | hi, how can i display more information in the barcode in koha |
| 09:03 | slef | ok, I'll go see if I can add a contact form to www.koha-community.org - the rest of you help mib_gle66c please :) |
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| 09:05 | kf | mib_gle66c: can you describe what are you trying to do? |
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| 09:07 | mib_gle66c | I want to display callnumber and itemtype in addition to the barcode number in the barcode layout How can i do it |
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| 09:13 | mib_gle66c | should i edit Label.pm |
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| 09:15 | slef | That sounds like a label templating question. |
| 09:16 | Have you seen/tried http://koha-community.org/docu[…]5722#labellayouts ? | |
| 09:17 | kf | which version of koha are you using? |
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| 09:19 | jransom | i jut can't get that link to open to a place where i can type stuff.... |
| 09:19 | mib_gle66c | koha 3.0.2.06 |
| 09:19 | jransom | wil try tomorrow getting late now |
| 09:19 | slef | jransom: yeah, I think I've got to add a post to http://koha-community.org then everyone can comment on it for a month |
| 09:20 | the wiki does not do what I want :( | |
| 09:20 | have I mentioned before how much I dislike mediawiki? ;-) | |
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| 09:21 | slef | wikis are meant to be quick and easy (wiki wiki = quick in Hawaiian or something, doesn't it?). mediawiki seems to be neither far too often. :( |
| 09:21 | jransom | i dislike it intensely too |
| 09:26 | kf | I dislike it too |
| 09:26 | I like dokuwiki | |
| 09:26 | magnuse | i like mediawiki... |
| 09:27 | kf | although the syntax for tables is nice in mediawiki |
| 09:27 | eythian | what? It's horrific. |
| 09:27 | magnuse | jransom: what were you trying to do? |
| 09:27 | kf | you can do some nice things with it - compared to dokuwiki |
| 09:27 | I like the rest of the dokuwiki syntax better though | |
| 09:28 | slef | @later tell chris_n I'm not sure if SIP 3 is confidential, but I'd need to check quite what the current terms are. At worst, it will be public at some point, the process is not under our control at all, it was a tough slog to get any access, it will happen whether or not we're involved and it seemed better to have one community/third sector organisation involved than none. |
| 09:28 | huginn | slef: The operation succeeded. |
| 09:28 | kf | eythian: you are not still at work, aren't you? |
| 09:28 | eythian | kf: the pmwiki table syntax is nice. You make a table using || and such, and it ends up looking like a table. |
| 09:28 | I am | |
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| 09:28 | kf | oucch |
| 09:28 | slef | eythian: RST even simpler isn't it? |
| 09:28 | eythian | I'm leaving for a workshop tomorrow, so trying to get my laptop in shape. |
| 09:28 | slef: never used it. | |
| 09:29 | slef | eythian: you just underline column headings with "===== ===== ====" and so on |
| 09:29 | kf | never change a running system.. |
| 09:29 | eythian | yeah, I think pmwiki is similar, although it's been a while. |
| 09:29 | slef | kf: not never, but don't deny the costs of changing. |
| 09:30 | Oak | time for class |
| 09:30 | later guys | |
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| 09:30 | slef | eythian: ah, with RST, I think you don't use || but let it work it out from fixed widths and the column heading underline's spaces. I don't write RST tables that much, though. |
| 09:30 | bye Oak | |
| 09:31 | eythian | oh right, that could be good too |
| 09:31 | kf | slef: was talkign about changing to much on a laptop before leaving for a workshop |
| 09:31 | I have no good experience with such things | |
| 09:31 | :) | |
| 09:31 | slef | kf: oh I was talking about bring back dokuwiki all is forgiven ;-) |
| 09:31 | kf: transferable skills rock! | |
| 09:31 | * magnuse | had not thought about marc dialects as a problem related to the debian packages. ouch... #marcmustdie |
| 09:32 | eythian | kf: it's not so much changing, as adding the stuff I'll need for a demo I'm going to give. |
| 09:32 | magnuse: yeah, it's a tricky one alright. | |
| 09:32 | jransom | i've got it working - had to validadte my email address |
| 09:32 | i'm uploading a gazillion ideas for papers i' | |
| 09:32 | papers i'd like to listen to | |
| 09:32 | kf | :) |
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| 09:33 | kf | eythian: good luck for your workshop - have fun :) |
| 09:33 | magnuse | jransom++ |
| 09:33 | eythian | cheers :) need to do more talk writing too, but there's an 8 hour plane flight for that. |
| 09:34 | magnuse | eythian: i here i was thinking the translations were the only thing i had to solve... |
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| 09:35 | eythian | No, I'm afraid not :) |
| 09:35 | although, I think that the MARC stuff won't be too bad really. | |
| 09:35 | kf | magnuse: start with translations... and worry about marc later? |
| 09:37 | magnuse | eythian: i guess there is the marcflavor stuff done by Makefile.PL that has to be an option somewhere? |
| 09:38 | eythian | well, I'd like to know what it actually changes, and just make something that can template away those changes in a way the koha-create script can use. |
| 09:38 | magnuse | kf: hm, i'd say marcflavor is actually more important, you could start using koha in english then switch to your translation when it is ready. not so easy to change marcflavor... |
| 09:39 | kf | magnuse: yes, i see that - but I thought that perhaps languages might be a bit easier for the start |
| 09:39 | magnuse | eythian: i looked at that when i changed Makefile.PL to account for normarc, but i don't remember now |
| 09:39 | eythian | I suspect it's mostly in the zebra config |
| 09:39 | kf | hm |
| 09:39 | magnuse | eythian: yup, it wasn't anything huge ;-) |
| 09:39 | kf: marc might be easier, actually | |
| 09:40 | eythian: so you think marcflavor should be an option for koha-create? | |
| 09:40 | slef | I think there's only maybe zebra configs? |
| 09:40 | * slef | checks Makefile.PL |
| 09:41 | slef | ZEBRA_MARC_FORMAT |
| 09:43 | pazpar2 config too | |
| 09:43 | mib_gle66c | Hi <slef> , my requirement is not in the specified link http://koha-community.org/docu[…]5722#labellayouts ? |
| 09:44 | eythian | magnuse: yeah, that way you can run usmarc and nomarc side by side |
| 09:44 | magnuse | cool |
| 09:44 | slef | mib_gle66c: callnumber and itemtype are shown. What's missing? |
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| 09:45 | jransom | o - I think I'd run out of burning questions ... thats 6 ideas up now counting magnus's one |
| 09:45 | magnuse | i hope to get some time during summer to start a wiki page for ducumenting the commands and options provided by the packages - it's not man but would be a start... |
| 09:45 | jransom | time to pass the batton! |
| 09:45 | baton ... | |
| 09:46 | magnuse | well done jransom :-) |
| 09:47 | jransom | oh - i have one more - rfid |
| 09:47 | jcamins_away | Let's try this whole "flying home" thing again, shall we? |
| 09:47 | eythian | jcamins_away: hopefully you don't have volcanoes to contend with like here :) |
| 09:48 | magnuse | love the "Customizing homepage OPAC" idea - actually i think we could have a page on the wiki with links to opacs that do interesting things |
| 09:48 | jcamins_away | eythian: no, just electric storms. |
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| 09:48 | magnuse | sounds scary |
| 09:49 | eythian | steam powered storms are so old now. It's pretty much all electric. |
| 09:49 | magnuse | hehe |
| 09:49 | jcamins_away | eythian: but we were bumped (voluntarily, since I didn't want us to be split up) yesterday, then our replacement flight was cancelled, and we were put on completely different flights, so I called and complained and they put us on a 6:00am flight. |
| 09:49 | eythian | erk |
| 09:50 | According to the ash forecast, I should be OK for tomorrow's flying. | |
| 09:50 | jransom | that customizing opacs topic crops up quite often actually |
| 09:50 | eythian | yeah, I'm doing a talk on it for the workshop I'm doing. |
| 09:50 | slef | "Jay Jordan to retire as OCLC President and CEO" errr, how can a co-op's CEO be its president? Very strange. |
| 09:50 | jransom | Robin .... |
| 09:50 | eythian | It's not something I know heaps about however, so it'll be an overview. |
| 09:50 | jransom | didnt realise it was you |
| 09:51 | eythian | what's me? |
| 09:51 | wahanui | hmmm... eythian is in NZ. ;) or a good influence |
| 09:51 | jransom | thanks for your help today |
| 09:51 | eythian | no problem :) |
| 09:51 | slef | oh we've got fun tomorrow: UK border guards are on strike |
| 09:51 | jransom | apart from the lack of mind reading ... |
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| 09:51 | magnuse | o/ |
| 09:51 | eythian | yeah, sorry about that, the circuits are on the fritz |
| 09:51 | slef | jransom: can I introduce you to /whois NICKNAME ? ;-) |
| 09:51 | druthb | Hi, magnuse. :) |
| 09:52 | jransom | i know that - i just forget it |
| 09:52 | heya Rith | |
| 09:52 | druthb | Hi, jransom! |
| 09:53 | magnuse | jransom: is rith how you pronounce ruth? ;-) |
| 09:53 | jransom | lol |
| 09:53 | mib_gle66c | <slef>: I want callnumber and item type not encoded in the graphic ,but separately above the barcode graphic |
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| 09:53 | kf | hehe |
| 09:53 | jransom | tired fingers |
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| 09:54 | jransom | thinking of taking diction lessons so i can learn how to speak English properly |
| 09:54 | slef | mib_gle66c: I thought that was what that did. Those are text fields to print, not fields to encode. |
| 09:54 | eythian | NZ english only has one vowel, you don't need any more. |
| 09:55 | slef | jransom: the English can't speak English clearly, so why do you want to show us up? |
| 09:55 | (bloody kiwi ratbags, going over there and taking our language) | |
| 09:55 | NurAhammad | is there any way to show serial logo in opac in format type? |
| 09:56 | jransom | lol - 1 vowel |
| 09:56 | NurAhammad | I am maintaining serials with koha |
| 09:57 | jransom | I am all British descent .... no Maori blood at all ... so really I should learn Queens English - or at least be understandable by other english speaking folk |
| 09:57 | jcamins_away | NurAhammad: you need to set the Leader. |
| 09:58 | NurAhammad | but when i search serials in opac it shows book format |
| 09:58 | jcamins_away | NurAhammad: that means you probably have the Leader wrong. |
| 09:58 | NurAhammad | is it place 7? |
| 09:58 | jcamins_away | Either that or it's an item type image, in which case you need to have a different item type for serials. |
| 09:59 | eythian | it sounds to me like the leader |
| 09:59 | jcamins_away | Yeah, LDR/07. |
| 10:00 | It should be s. | |
| 10:00 | NurAhammad | I set serial item type? |
| 10:00 | ok I will try. | |
| 10:00 | thanks. | |
| 10:01 | jcamins_away | If it's the item type image, you also need to set the images for each itemtype. |
| 10:02 | NurAhammad | I already set item type image. |
| 10:02 | It is basically format image. | |
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| 10:02 | * eythian | hates the MARC leader, it's a terrible way of doing what it tries to do. #marcmustdie |
| 10:03 | * magnuse | agrees |
| 10:04 | * jcamins_away | , too. |
| 10:04 | druthb | MARC-- |
| 10:04 | jransom | slef: are going to post that link to koha list asking for ideas of papers you'd like to see OR to browse the list to see what paper you could present? |
| 10:05 | slef | NurAhammad: no, not item type, bibliographic/MARC record leader field (tab 0 usually) |
| 10:05 | eythian | oh good. THe progress bar I was waiting on too 30 minutes to get to 12%. Now it's jumped back to 0. |
| 10:05 | *took | |
| 10:06 | slef | jransom: I'll post various links once I've created them. Or someone else could beat me to it. I'm a bit busy because it's Co-operatives Fortnight here and I'm at events this afternoon and tomorrow morning, on top of my usual workload. |
| 10:06 | Judit | eythian: you need to watch the progress bar at all the time- it helps, you know |
| 10:06 | jransom | ok cool |
| 10:07 | eythian | Judit: heh, it's true |
| 10:07 | slef | I think it needs a post creating on http://koha-community.org asking for suggestions (anyone want to draft it?), then posting to the mailing list with links to that and the OCS pages for submissions, registration and schedule |
| 10:08 | Does that sound about right? | |
| 10:08 | jransom | yup. |
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| 10:09 | jransom | if you dont get to it i could look at it tomorrow when i get to work. |
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| 10:11 | slef | that'd be great if you could... get me anything any way you can and I'll move it on... seriously overloaded here today :-/ |
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| 10:12 | jransom | ok - I'll take responsibility for doing that |
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| 10:18 | eythian | I really need a faster netbook |
| 10:18 | jransom | good night all |
| 10:19 | jcamins_away | Good night? |
| 10:19 | magnuse | g'night jransom |
| 10:19 | eythian | bye! |
| 10:19 | jcamins_away | When NZ says "good night," I _know_ I'm up too early. |
| 10:20 | magnuse | hehe |
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| 10:32 | magnuse | wow, wiki pages without categories look weird |
| 10:33 | it's a start: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_customized_OPACs | |
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| 10:37 | eythian | time for me to go home and start packing now I think |
| 10:37 | magnuse | have fun, eythian |
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| 10:50 | slef | time for me to panic-pack too :) |
| 10:50 | talk to you later/tomorrow | |
| 11:10 | magnuse | have fun, slef |
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| 11:19 | mib_7m2zm4 | I want to display callnumber and itemtype in addition to the barcode number in the barcode layout How can i do it ; I also tried the koha community manual but failed |
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| 12:20 | gmcharlt | @quote random |
| 12:20 | huginn | gmcharlt: Quote #101: "<darling> I still need to catch up with current Koha. Is pretty dreamy already." (added by gmcharlt at 02:44 AM, October 29, 2010) |
| 12:22 | jwagner | @quote random |
| 12:22 | huginn | jwagner: Quote #64: "<jwagner> Depends on whether you're trying to get intelligent participation, or just saying we're going to do it MY way" (added by brendan at 03:58 PM, March 01, 2010) |
| 12:23 | oleonard | Hmmmm... |
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| 12:34 | * Agent_Dani | would have found that quote useful at her previous employer. |
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| 13:34 | oleonard | Hooray for the end (I hope) of the Linux anti-virus thread. |
| 13:38 | kf | hm |
| 13:38 | this patch on the list | |
| 13:38 | does it delete the first paragraph on purpuse? | |
| 13:38 | it seems nto related to the description of what it's supposed to do | |
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| 14:33 | kf | jcamins_away: really really away? |
| 14:33 | oleonard | You never can tell. |
| 14:37 | kf | nope |
| 14:38 | I have a library askign about cataloging coins... thought he might have an idea | |
| 14:55 | ugh | |
| 14:55 | 2 titles created from acq - both have one item on order - both link to the same basket | |
| 14:55 | and int he basket... there is only 1 line | |
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| 15:05 | oakivil | hello #koha |
| 15:05 | i was thinking abouot the aquisitions module | |
| 15:06 | when an order is placed, is it sent as a email to vendor? | |
| 15:06 | would it be possible to integrate aquisitions module to vendors interface? | |
| 15:07 | so things would be more automated | |
| 15:08 | i guess that is something you are already working on | |
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| 15:14 | oleonard | "...most librarians are little more than unionized pawns for the social-activist bosses of the American Library Association" |
| 15:14 | Nice. http://www.fbnewsleader.com/ar[…]tmikethompson.txt | |
| 15:16 | gmcharlt | heh - and on the flip side, there are people who point out that the American Librarian Association is not the American *Librarian* Association and wish for something that was an actual union |
| 15:16 | er, s/Librarian/Library/ for the first one | |
| 15:16 | oleonard | (not that "Florida's oldest weekly newspaper" should be given any credence at all) |
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| 15:58 | kf | Oak |
| 15:59 | ah, solved my acq mystery - one order was cancelled, but title and item not deleted. | |
| 16:00 | now I can leave - bye all :) | |
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| 16:24 | wizzyrea | very quiet today |
| 16:25 | Oak | hm |
| 16:25 | tcohen | hi wizzyrea |
| 16:28 | wizzyrea | mornin |
| 16:28 | tcohen | has anyone worked on integrating koha with repository software like DSpace or EPrints? |
| 16:29 | using standards like SWORD ? | |
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| 16:30 | tcohen | well, next semester i plan to start implementing something like that |
| 16:30 | he | |
| 16:30 | hdl | tcohen: have fun |
| 16:30 | tcohen | wizzyrea, i tried to make some noise |
| 16:31 | hdl, have you worked on smth like that? | |
| 16:32 | hdl | Nope would be quite interested in that... But first have to solve some other issues. |
| 16:32 | like solr integration and performance issues. | |
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| 16:33 | hdl | solr integration is getting better and better. But librarians are asking for crazy things |
| 16:35 | wizzyrea | hehe |
| 16:35 | @quote get 123 | |
| 16:35 | huginn | wizzyrea: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) |
| 16:36 | rhcl_away | tchoen: when you say "integrating koha with DSpace", what exactly do you mean? Being able to enter DSpace data into Koha for integrated search results perhaps? |
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| 16:36 | rhcl | We have an on-off-on-off digital project based on DSpace, and I'm interested in discussing it or anything related to Koha integration. |
| 16:38 | to change hdl's statement slightly: "crazy librarians are asking for things" | |
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| 16:38 | Oak | heya druthb :) |
| 16:39 | druthb | Hi, Oak. :) |
| 16:39 | Oak | that was quick, if may say so |
| 16:39 | uh oh | |
| 16:39 | :) | |
| 16:39 | hdl | crazy librarians, looks like a tautology.... like rich swiss person :P ... or wicked programmers |
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| 16:41 | Oak | time to watch a movie |
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| 16:43 | cait | hi |
| 16:44 | Oak | cait |
| 16:45 | hdl | rhcl: just kidding... |
| 16:46 | cait | Oak |
| 16:47 | hi hdl | |
| 16:47 | hdl | hi cait |
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| 16:53 | wizzyrea | oleonard: about? |
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| 16:54 | oleonard | Layabout mostly. |
| 16:54 | wizzyrea | :) |
| 16:54 | had anyone reported to you that the tickboxes for hiding columns in batch edit/delete were acting funky? | |
| 16:54 | not bug 6446 | |
| 16:54 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6446 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , batch item deletion interface problems |
| 16:54 | wizzyrea | it's different |
| 16:54 | druthb is now known as druthb_foodz | |
| 16:54 | cait | have not really used it since change to tt |
| 16:55 | wizzyrea | sec, screencap inc |
| 16:55 | http://screencast.com/t/dZuvcP7D | |
| 16:55 | that is just weird behavior | |
| 16:55 | oleonard | wizzyrea: If anyone has told me I've forgotten. If you file a bug report I can take a look. |
| 16:55 | wizzyrea | k |
| 16:59 | * oleonard | had better fix a bug soon or he'll forget how |
| 16:59 | wizzyrea | bug 6543 |
| 16:59 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6543 minor, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW , Column hiding on batch item edit/delete not working |
| 16:59 | cait | probably like riding a bike :) |
| 17:00 | and we go near the evil orange again :( | |
| 17:00 | oleonard | ? |
| 17:00 | cait | sign off counter |
| 17:01 | 49 waiting | |
| 17:01 | I think 50 will change color again | |
| 17:01 | bug status is http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]bin/bug_status.pl | |
| 17:01 | sign off counter is http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]bin/bug_status.pl | |
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| 17:18 | nengard | cait i have an easy one waiting for sign off |
| 17:18 | it's just a help file :) | |
| 17:18 | if someone wants to sign off on it | |
| 17:21 | cait | I will keep it in mind :) |
| 17:22 | have to do some other things tonight :( but ordering new laptop on friday, hope it will make things a bit easier and faster | |
| 17:22 | tcohen | rhcl: i'm back |
| 17:23 | rhcl: integrating with DSpace: the possibility to catalog and upload digital content in koha | |
| 17:23 | uploaded content is stored in DSpace as backend using SWORD | |
| 17:23 | thats' what i mean | |
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| 17:26 | tcohen | hdl: im willing to try solr integration and contribute to that project also |
| 17:29 | hdl | nice |
| 17:29 | dev_patches at biblibre.com if you like | |
| 17:29 | See you | |
| 17:29 | tcohen | thanks hdl |
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| 17:49 | wizzyrea | question, what is the score on the bib import tool? |
| 17:49 | gmcharlt | wizzyrea: in what sense? |
| 17:50 | wizzyrea | http://screencast.com/t/PagaCYq5 |
| 17:50 | what does that mean/denote | |
| 17:52 | gmcharlt | wizzyrea: so in a matching rule, each matchpoint you specify has a score associated with it |
| 17:52 | wizzyrea | aha, I did not realize |
| 17:53 | gmcharlt | if the rule has 3 matchpoints, say OCLC #, ISBN, and title |
| 17:53 | each can have a score | |
| 17:53 | say 500 for OCLC#, 300 for ISBN, and 200 for title | |
| 17:53 | then if a given bib matches an existing one on a particular match point | |
| 17:53 | that score is added to a total for that bib | |
| 17:54 | and if the total goes over the threshold for that matching rule, it's considered a full match | |
| 17:54 | so in my example, if the threshold for the rule were set at 500 | |
| 17:54 | a match *just* on OCLC number would be enough | |
| 17:54 | wizzyrea | aha |
| 17:54 | gotya | |
| 17:54 | gmcharlt | otherwise, the match woudl require both ISBN and title to get to 500 |
| 17:55 | wizzyrea | thanks :) |
| 17:56 | druthb | gmcharlt++ |
| 17:56 | wizzyrea | is the threshold user configurable? |
| 17:57 | gmcharlt | wizzyrea: yes, it's part of the overall matching rule definition |
| 17:57 | and the actual numbers you assign to thresholds and scores are arbitrary | |
| 17:57 | wizzyrea | o, so it doesn't strictly *mean* something |
| 17:57 | a particular number, that is | |
| 17:57 | gmcharlt | right |
| 17:57 | my example could easily have involved 5, 3, and 2 | |
| 17:58 | wizzyrea | got it. gmcharlt++ thanks for explaining that |
| 17:58 | nengard | gmcharlt, while you're talking about it can you explain how to make matching rules? |
| 17:58 | I don't have much documented on that | |
| 17:58 | and this is very helpful | |
| 17:58 | of course you could submit a patch to the manual if you want :) | |
| 17:59 | gmcharlt | nengard: indeed, but I may as well answer your question as well |
| 17:59 | so they're set up in Admin | Record Matching Rules, natch | |
| 18:00 | the matching rule code is whatever you want it to be | |
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| 18:00 | gmcharlt | as are the description and threshold |
| 18:00 | wizzyrea | ooooo |
| 18:00 | gmcharlt++ very helpful | |
| 18:00 | gmcharlt | then you can set up as many "match pionts" and "match checks" as you want |
| 18:01 | nengard | what is a match point and a match check? |
| 18:01 | gmcharlt | (and if you're *very* special, you can also be typo-free) |
| 18:01 | nengard | hehe |
| 18:01 | i'm never typo free | |
| 18:01 | gmcharlt | a match point says that for the specify tag and subfield (and offset and length if you're talking about a fixed field) |
| 18:01 | do a search on the search index specified in the match point | |
| 18:01 | the search index = just a normal CCL index code | |
| 18:02 | the incoming bib's tag/subfield are checked | |
| 18:02 | and the value searched on | |
| 18:02 | any bibs that are brought up by the search | |
| 18:02 | get the score specified in the matching point added to the total | |
| 18:03 | so then all of the match points are checked for an incoming bibs | |
| 18:04 | and the existing bibs whose total scores are over the threshold are kept for the next phase | |
| 18:04 | which is the "match check" | |
| 18:04 | match check two sets of tags/subfields specified | |
| 18:04 | one for the incoming bib | |
| 18:04 | one for the existing bib | |
| 18:04 | and for an existing bib to be retaiend as a match | |
| 18:04 | it *must* pass the match check | |
| 18:05 | nengard | yikes, this is a lot :) I'm going to see if I can translate it into the manual - and if i do it wrong you're free to fix my mistakes |
| 18:06 | for search indexes - are these all of them? http://manual.koha-community.o[…]earchindexes.html | |
| 18:06 | or does this list at least look right? | |
| 18:06 | and do i put the text or the number in for the search index? | |
| 18:07 | gmcharlt | nengard: not that one |
| 18:07 | it needs to be one of the ones listed in ccl.properties | |
| 18:07 | so table 11.1 has the list | |
| 18:08 | nengard | okay - good to know |
| 18:08 | does that table look complete? (I could of course go check the code | |
| 18:08 | ) | |
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| 18:11 | gmcharlt | nengard: not complete in the sense of being 100% complete, but it is certainly representative |
| 18:11 | I just suggest saying the CCL qualifiers "include" rather than "are" | |
| 18:11 | nengard | okay so i need to check the code and get it to be inclusive (or update the text as you suggest) |
| 18:12 | gmcharlt | the documentation already references ccl.properties |
| 18:12 | and I think that's sufficient | |
| 18:12 | nengard | k |
| 18:28 | slef | gmcharlt: any idea if/how you're voting on sip3? |
| 18:30 | gmcharlt | slef: not yet; I need to sit down with the full spec some evenign this week |
| 18:31 | * oleonard | would imagine that to be sleep-inducing |
| 18:34 | Oak | Bonne Nuit |
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| 18:58 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6066] itemtype when ordering and item-level_itype=no <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6066> |
| 19:06 | adnc | huhu koha |
| 19:14 | slef | oops I just flamed NISO |
| 19:14 | oh well, they're a confusing bloody mess, so it's their own fault! :) | |
| 19:18 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6268] Bad Total in basket.pl <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6268> |
| 19:24 | slef | anyone else think the 3.4.2 announcement email had encoding problems? |
| 19:30 | rhcl | @later tell tchoen RE: DSpace and Koha - I think what might be more interesting and valuable for me would be able to import DSpace records into Koha for a single point of search, not simply using the Koha interface to backend DSpace records. |
| 19:30 | huginn | rhcl: The operation succeeded. |
| 19:31 | oleonard | rhcl: You misspelled tcohen's nick |
| 19:32 | wizzyrea | another handy trick, you can /msg that stuff to huginn directly |
| 19:32 | rhcl | d* |
| 19:32 | wizzyrea | something like /msg huginn @later tell blah blah blah |
| 19:32 | rhcl | @later tell tcohen RE: DSpace and Koha - I think what might be more interesting and valuable for me would be able to import DSpace records into Koha for a single point of search, not simply using the Koha interface to backend DSpace records. |
| 19:32 | huginn | rhcl: The operation succeeded. |
| 19:35 | oleonard | Thanks wizzyrea, I left you a secret message. |
| 19:41 | druthb | rhcl++ |
| 19:41 | Two_interfaces-- | |
| 19:42 | magnus_away is now known as magnuse | |
| 19:44 | wizzyrea | a secret message! |
| 19:44 | hehe | |
| 19:46 | magnuse | y'all seen this? http://www.linux-magazine.com/[…]ha-Library-System downloading the pdf on a slow connection now... |
| 19:46 | wizzyrea | oo |
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| 19:55 | magnuse | ouch, wrong url in the article... |
| 19:56 | wizzyrea | bleh |
| 19:56 | oleonard | Crap. |
| 19:56 | cait | really? |
| 19:56 | :( | |
| 19:56 | wizzyrea | well I can't make it load so |
| 19:56 | there's that | |
| 19:59 | * oleonard | emails the editor |
| 19:59 | wizzyrea | did you note the manual link isn't correct either |
| 19:59 | though that's a fantastic tutorial on doing it in opensuse | |
| 20:00 | oleonard | wizzyrea: Not specifically, but the more the merrier. |
| 20:01 | The auto-response says "Thank you for your article proposal or manuscript." | |
| 20:02 | :| | |
| 20:02 | wizzyrea | yikes |
| 20:03 | cait | oleonard++ for writing it |
| 20:03 | I am quite sure there was something about that on twitter and the right link was mentioned | |
| 20:03 | and they still got it wrong :( | |
| 20:06 | magnuse | well, some people are in for a surprise, then... :-| |
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| 20:14 | magnuse | wow, it's weird and cool seing the output of rebuild_zebra.pl in a magazine! |
| 20:18 | oleonard | An article about software first developed in New Zealand written by someone in Cyprus illustrated with a picture of a library in Prague: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F[…]Monastery_001.jpg |
| 20:18 | nengard | heh |
| 20:19 | jcamins_away | oleonard: thanks! I couldn't remember which library that was. |
| 20:26 | cait | paul_p: around? |
| 20:28 | wizzyrea | tee hee |
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| 20:30 | cait | nengard++ :) |
| 20:30 | time to sleep for me - bye all! | |
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| 20:34 | library_guy_work | seen nengard |
| 20:34 | wahanui | nengard was last seen on #koha 15 minutes and 57 seconds ago, saying: heh [Wed Jun 29 20:18:44 2011] |
| 20:35 | nengard | still here :) |
| 20:35 | library_guy_work | hey nengard you around? |
| 20:35 | hey | |
| 20:35 | ok | |
| 20:35 | so i was reading your additions and I just want to make sure I understand | |
| 20:35 | nengard | k |
| 20:35 | library_guy_work | so an Item is "unavailable" then you still want to see the call number? |
| 20:36 | I think cait wanted something similar | |
| 20:36 | nengard | yes, or at least hide the locations line |
| 20:36 | oh well if someone else wants it then yes i want the call number :) | |
| 20:36 | library_guy_work | lol |
| 20:36 | ok sounds good to me...i think i can do that... | |
| 20:37 | nengard | did the other stuff make sense too? |
| 20:37 | library_guy_work | does it currently show if there is an item unavailable? |
| 20:37 | nengard | no |
| 20:37 | library_guy_work | ahh ok so ill probably have to pull that from somewhere |
| 20:37 | boo | |
| 20:38 | I took the other stuff to mean that if there isn't a call number in the first "copy" then print the second call number | |
| 20:38 | im not sure how to do that but ill see if I can do some digging | |
| 20:38 | nengard | yes that's what i meant, otherwise it looks like there are no call numbers |
| 20:39 | library_guy_work | right |
| 20:39 | the issue that i saw with this is volumes of books | |
| 20:39 | if there is more than one volume then technically there is more than one call number | |
| 20:39 | nengard | and as for the preference the pull down is supposed to be the beginning of the sentence - otherwise you have it saying "Show Show" |
| 20:39 | or "Don't show Show" | |
| 20:39 | library_guy_work | lol yeah that was just me not paying attention :'( |
| 20:40 | * nengard | is an english major |
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| 20:40 | library_guy_work | those are easy the easy fixes...im kind of concerned about pulling back the second call number if the first is blank |
| 20:41 | nengard | and the default should be 'don't show' cause that's how it is now and people don't like things changing on them :) |
| 20:41 | oh | |
| 20:41 | well i have faith in you :) | |
| 20:41 | library_guy_work | lol thanks |
| 20:41 | nengard | and will gladly test and sign off on your patch when it's fixed |
| 20:41 | just remember to update the status to 'needs signoff' from 'failed qa' | |
| 20:41 | library_guy_work | ill probably try and fix the patch this weekend...i have finals this week and next |
| 20:41 | * library_guy_work | is stressed |
| 20:42 | nengard | no problem |
| 20:42 | focus on the finals!! | |
| 20:42 | wizzyrea | oh yea |
| 20:42 | focus on the finals | |
| 20:42 | library_guy_work | do I just submit the full patch again or the partial? |
| 20:42 | nengard | full again |
| 20:42 | library_guy_work | ok |
| 20:42 | :) | |
| 20:42 | nengard | and put the bug number in the patch title |
| 20:42 | library_guy_work | lol will do |
| 20:42 | i know i forgot that last time :'( | |
| 20:43 | nengard | no prob |
| 20:43 | library_guy_work | sorry for being a newb :-/ |
| 20:43 | nengard | you put it in the email so i was able to find it |
| 20:43 | never be sorry!! | |
| 20:43 | we were all new once :) | |
| 20:43 | library_guy_work | lol true true |
| 20:43 | nengard | i couldn't figure out how to even email the patch in the beginning |
| 20:43 | library_guy_work | haha i still have to use scp so send it |
| 20:46 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5878] overdue printing fixes and improvements <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5878> |
| 20:46 | nengard | okay time for me to quit - need some rest after ALA |
| 20:46 | email if you have further questions | |
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| 20:52 | slef | erm, I'm sure I've sorted this out before |
| 20:53 | merge_authorities.pl - does it exist? Am I going crackers? | |
| 20:55 | It's mentioned in http://koha-community.org/docu[…]13514#catalogcron under 15.1.5.2 | |
| 20:58 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5719] Update UNIMARC plugins <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5719> |
| 21:18 | wizzyrea | well whatever was going on with RSS yesterday + the koha site is better today. |
| 21:18 | so those feeds are back now. | |
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| 21:30 | gmcharlt | anybody else seeing that when receiving serial issues (and adding items at the time of checkin) that the items are not being created? |
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| 21:44 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6517] koha-create wants "use database" in DEFAULTSQL <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6517> |
| 21:47 | magnuse | ...and with that i bid y'all a good night (or other time of the day) |
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