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00:02 | druthb | okay, the apt-get install on that new page will let you get thru make test just fine. :) more monkeying with that page later. |
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00:16 | library_guy | is anybody around that could help me get more familiar with the Koha code base |
00:16 | so I can do more than just tt changes | |
00:19 | atz__ | library_guy: better to just go ahead and mess around |
00:19 | eythian | library_guy: you're probably best of asking specific questions. |
00:19 | atz__ | come back w/ specific questions.... like eythian says |
00:19 | eythian | There's not really a course in the Koha codebase. |
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00:19 | library_guy | well I was trying to add the location of an item to the results page |
00:20 | so I know that i need to modify opac-search.pl | |
00:20 | and somehow move that to the tt page | |
00:20 | but im used to coding in an MVC | |
00:20 | so im confused lol | |
00:21 | atz__ | you're starting with one of the more complicated parts... actually, it's new enough i don't even know anymore. |
00:21 | library_guy | atz__: where do you recommend starting? |
00:21 | eythian | perhaps pick a similar thing and see how that moves through the system to the template |
00:22 | library_guy | well I was looking for item type to check that eythian but it looks like the names are allowed to change from the pl to the tt file |
00:22 | atz__ | library_guy: i'm not saying to start elsewhere. it's ok to stick w/ what you are interested in. |
00:23 | library_guy | lol well it was just a need...it looked like it would be simple enough...but upon further inspection I was wrong :-/ |
00:24 | so if i see a forloop in the tt file with the variable name availalable_items_loop | |
00:25 | what should I look for in the pl file? | |
00:25 | eythian | library_guy: yeah, the names can change. But how they do will be defined in the .pl file. Usually near the bottom where it sets up the variables that get passed through |
00:25 | library_guy | ahh |
00:25 | eythian | start by searching for that string in the .pl |
00:25 | * atz__ | nod |
00:25 | eythian | "_loop" isn't magical or anything, it's just what people call arrays that are passed through to be looped over. |
00:26 | library_guy | yeah looks like it is accessed by a reference to SEARCH_RESULT |
00:27 | eythian++ | |
00:28 | atz__++ | |
00:32 | * library_guy | wonders what he has gotten himself into |
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02:06 | mtj | hi folks, does anyone understand how item availability is calculated from searches, in 3.4? |
02:07 | the items stuff looks removed from bi.marcxml, thats pretty good | |
02:09 | i remember in 3.2, availability was got from zebra | |
02:10 | so , i assume in 3.4 - availability stuff is now fetched from the 'items' table in mysql? | |
02:10 | can anyone confirm that, off their head? | |
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02:15 | Brooke | kia ora |
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02:45 | library_guy | does anybody know what the implications would be of adding the shelving location of an item to the opac-results page if the book doesn't have a shelving location |
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02:56 | library_guy | nevermind that is a dumb question |
03:00 | eythian | mtj: marc is created for zebra on export |
03:00 | so it's the same as it was | |
03:01 | mtj | aah, click... |
03:01 | and... hiya eythian ! :) | |
03:01 | eythian | hello :) |
03:02 | mtj | so, item level xml *is* still being sent to zebra, in 3.4? |
03:03 | but its now being built on-the-fly, in a rebuild_zebra.pl? | |
03:03 | rather than already existing in bi.marcxml ? | |
03:04 | hmmm, my theory doesnt sound correct, to me | |
03:06 | i previously thought the bi level $952 stuff was removed from bi.marcxml, and put in a new items.marcxml column, for 3.4... | |
03:06 | ... but that wasnt the case | |
03:08 | fyi: i will have a look at the 3.4 code later, to confirm all this, but i thought id ask a quick Q on #koha first | |
03:12 | eythian | mtj: yeah, it's just generated as it's needed (which it isn't most of the time, except sending to zebra and doing exports) |
03:13 | mtj | aah, i got it |
03:17 | library_guy | so I was looking at opac-results.tt, specifically at the Availability section. I wanted to add the shelving location after the branchname. I noticed that the item location was already selected but when i add the tt code to print it nothing happens. |
03:18 | so I did some more digging and noticed that the "for loan" text doesn't even exist in that file o_0 | |
03:18 | am I missing something? | |
03:18 | eythian | library_guy: what language setting are you using? (i.e. are you editing the template file that you're actually using?) |
03:18 | library_guy | yes |
03:19 | when i did a grep for "Copies available for loan" it did show up in the translator | |
03:19 | but I have no idea how that works :'( | |
03:19 | eythian | what language are you actually using in your sysprefs? |
03:19 | oh | |
03:19 | library_guy | en |
03:19 | eythian | that string is in the XSLT |
03:19 | library_guy | ? |
03:20 | yes | |
03:20 | i saw that | |
03:20 | but I can't edit them | |
03:20 | even as root 0_0 | |
03:20 | eythian | well that's a different problem then |
03:20 | library_guy | lol |
03:20 | so is that were I would have to make the change? | |
03:20 | eythian | what does ls -l opac-tmpl/prog/en/xslt/MARC21slim2OPACResults.xsl say? |
03:20 | library_guy | in the xml file |
03:20 | eythian | it depends on the nature of the change |
03:20 | and if you're using xslt in your sysprefs | |
03:21 | library_guy | ls -l blib/OPAC_TMPL_DIR/prog/en/xslt/MARC21slim2OPACResults.xsl |
03:21 | -r--r--r-- 1 koha koha 63674 May 23 12:00 blib/OPAC_TMPL_DIR/prog/en/xslt/MARC21slim2OPACResults.xsl | |
03:21 | ahh | |
03:21 | so | |
03:21 | eythian | there yoiu go |
03:21 | library_guy | there's one problem |
03:21 | *smh* | |
03:21 | interesting | |
03:21 | wahanui | it has been said that interesting is good |
03:22 | library_guy | wahanui is wrong |
03:22 | lol | |
03:22 | eythian | wahanui: literal interesting |
03:22 | wahanui | eythian: interesting =is= good |
03:22 | eythian | no wahanui, interesting =is= good|sometimes bad |
03:22 | no wahanui, interesting is good|sometimes bad | |
03:22 | wahanui | okay, eythian. |
03:23 | eythian | wahanui: interesting |
03:23 | wahanui | interesting is sometimes bad |
03:23 | eythian | wahanui: interesting |
03:23 | wahanui | interesting is good |
03:23 | eythian | fixed |
03:23 | library_guy | poor wahanui |
03:23 | eythian | wahanui is a repository of important and useful and accurate information |
03:24 | wahanui: wahanui | |
03:24 | wahanui | i am probably a bot |
03:24 | eythian | wahanui: wahanui |
03:24 | wahanui | i am a bot |
03:24 | eythian | wahanui: wahanui |
03:24 | wahanui | i am a bot |
03:24 | eythian | wahanui is also a repository of important and useful and accurate information |
03:24 | wahanui | okay, eythian. |
03:24 | eythian | wahanui: wahanui |
03:24 | wahanui | somebody said i was a bot or a repository of important and useful and accurate information |
03:24 | eythian | grr, I really need to fix that bug |
03:24 | library_guy | eythian: are you the one who wrote wahanui |
03:24 | eythian | no wahanui, wahanui is a bot|a repository of important and useful and accurate information |
03:24 | wahanui | okay, eythian. |
03:24 | eythian | library_guy: no, it's an infobot |
03:24 | but I have access to change it | |
03:25 | library_guy | fair enough |
03:26 | so is using xslt recommended? | |
03:26 | eythian | anyone know where the 'contact notes' field for borrowers is supposed to show up? |
03:26 | library_guy: jup | |
03:26 | it's not compulsory or anything, but generally a bit nicer. | |
03:27 | library_guy | fair enough...i just wasn't aware it existed :p |
03:28 | I would definitely take an error right about now just so I know what im doing wrong lol | |
03:29 | eythian | haha |
03:29 | what's (not )?happening? | |
03:29 | library_guy | the (location)? isn't showing up |
03:30 | I may just not be referencing it correctly | |
03:30 | eythian | could be. I always tend to print it out to STDERR in the perl code so that I know it's getting a value, and I haven't made a dumb mistake somewhere. |
03:31 | library_guy | lol |
03:31 | to stderr's output in the log or the site in Koha? | |
03:32 | eythian | to STDERR, which appears in the errors log |
03:32 | library_guy | lol fair enough...just wanted to make sure that somebody didn't get clever and pipe it out for a dev install |
03:34 | eythian: are you familiar with Search.pm? | |
03:35 | eythian | Even if I were, I'd deny it |
03:35 | library_guy | hahahaha |
03:35 | I don't blame you after looking at this | |
03:35 | eythian | yeah, it's a huge ugly mess |
03:36 | library_guy | thats how i feel about all 75K lines of this right now |
03:37 | i guess that is to be expected in a new project | |
03:37 | eythian | heh |
03:37 | yeah, also parts of it have grown organically | |
03:37 | I've tried to refactor a few things, but you end up feeling like you're pulling an endless string. | |
03:38 | library_guy | the last project I worked on was like that |
03:38 | I kept running across ASCII art in the code | |
03:38 | that was frustrating | |
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03:38 | library_guy | acsii pokemon *quivers* |
03:39 | eythian | http://www.cise.ufl.edu/~manuel/obfuscate/pi.c <-- like this? |
03:39 | library_guy | more like this http://www.asciiartfarts.com/pokemon.html |
03:40 | but you're is at least mildly classy lol | |
03:40 | eythian | ah |
03:41 | library_guy | do you know if Koha is based on anything? |
03:41 | or did somebody just start writing it one day | |
03:42 | eythian | heh |
03:42 | it was started about 11 years ago | |
03:42 | for a library around here. | |
03:42 | library_guy | in New Zealand? |
03:42 | eythian | yeah |
03:43 | library_guy | rumor has it that the design team thought it would be a simple db project |
03:43 | and it turned into a giant project | |
03:44 | eythian | well, it started off as a small one I think. It's just had 11 more years of people hacking on it since then |
03:44 | library_guy | heh |
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03:48 | library_guy | WOO I got an error |
03:50 | good talking to you eythian | |
03:50 | im out for the night | |
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03:51 | eythian | cool :) |
03:51 | just missed... | |
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04:04 | * Oak | waves |
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04:08 | kmkale | Namaste #koha |
04:09 | Oak | Namaste kmkale :) |
04:09 | Space_Librarian | namaste kmkale |
04:12 | kmkale | namaste Space_Librarian & Oak |
04:12 | Space_Librarian: tickets booked? | |
04:13 | Oak: are you coming for Kohacon11? | |
04:13 | Oak | kmkale, may be :) |
04:13 | Space_Librarian | kmkale: looks like I'll be doing LIANZA in Wellington instead. :( |
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04:55 | kmkale | Space_Librarian: Thats too bad. Hope you will try to wriggle out of it and make it here |
04:56 | Space_Librarian | if I can. |
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05:04 | eythian | anyone know if Koha has the ability to prevent people from viewing the OPAC without a password? |
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05:18 | syed | hi, all |
05:18 | Oak | heya syed :) |
05:19 | where are you from syed ? Karachi? | |
05:19 | syed | sudo -u koha misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra -z -b -a ... got an error.. command not found |
05:19 | yes | |
05:19 | Oak | cool |
05:19 | syed | Oak: what abt u? |
05:19 | Oak | islamabad |
05:20 | syed | nice |
05:20 | Oak | :) |
05:20 | pianohacker | eythian: the quick hacky way to do that would be to change authnotrequired from 1 to 0 in all of the opac scripts |
05:21 | Oak | get help about you problem, then we'll talk, okay |
05:21 | your* | |
05:21 | syed | yeah sure Oak |
05:21 | pianohacker | syed: Is this on Debian, using the official packages? |
05:21 | eythian | pianohacker: ta. I just put it to the client and I'm hoping we can do something like that, that way I can get time to do it properly and upstream it. |
05:22 | syed | pianohacker: its on Ubuntu 10.4 .... Koha INSTALL.Ubuntu (Original author: Joshua Ferraro Modified for Ubuntu by: Chris Nighswonger (cnighswonger AT foundations DOT edu)) |
05:24 | eythian | syed: you're probably in the wrong directory |
05:24 | you need to be whereever you've installed koha | |
05:25 | Oak | wise words mr. robin. wise words indeed. |
05:25 | :p | |
05:26 | eythian | :� |
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05:31 | Oak | brb in 15 |
05:32 | syed | sudo -u koha misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra -z -b -a ... got an error ... command not found ... plz guide |
05:32 | eythian | <eythian> syed: you're probably in the wrong directory |
05:32 | <eythian> you need to be whereever you've installed koha | |
05:32 | Oak | syed, what about what eythian said... did you checked |
05:32 | oh wait, i should be in the kitchen | |
05:35 | syed | eythian: yes i already checked my installation directory my path is correct... but still getting same error |
05:36 | eythian | syed: what does 'pwd' say? |
05:37 | syed | when i run this command... i found error... not asking my password |
05:38 | eythian | pwd has nothing to do with passwords |
05:38 | what does it output when you run that | |
05:40 | syed | the output is.... sudo: misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra: command not found |
05:41 | eythian | no |
05:41 | what is the output of running 'pwd' | |
05:44 | syed | [sudo] password for syed: |
05:44 | eythian | no |
05:44 | there is no sudo | |
05:44 | if you type 'pwd' and press enter, what does it say? | |
05:44 | Oak | pwd = present working diretory |
05:47 | mtj | misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl |
05:47 | not | |
05:47 | misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra | |
05:48 | eythian | mtj: it's actually as both in the install doc. That should be fixed. But good point. |
05:48 | mtj | eythian: 'OpacPublic' syspref, stops people viewing OPAC |
05:48 | eythian | mtj: awesome, thanks! |
05:49 | mtj | eythian: no probs, i owe you one ;) |
05:50 | syed | now i found my path... misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl ........... its.. syedsyed-pc:~$ sudo -u koha /home/syed/Desktop/Koha/release/misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -z -b -a |
05:51 | but i found error again | |
05:51 | eythian | first, do: cd /home/syed/Desktop/Koha/release |
05:51 | syed | Can't locate C4/Context.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.10.1 /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.1 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.10 /usr/share/perl/5.10 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at /home/syed/Desktop/Koha/release/misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl line 6. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /home/syed/Desktop/ |
05:51 | Koha/release/misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl line 6. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /home/syed/Desktop/Koha/release/misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl line 6. | |
05:52 | eythian | yes, that's because you're not in the correct directory |
05:52 | syed | now I'm standing on.. syedsyed-pc:~/Desktop/Koha/release$ |
05:52 | what's next? | |
05:52 | wahanui | next is bug 6247 - patch coming |
05:52 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6247 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, CLOSED FIXED, Acq: oder from existing record broken |
05:53 | eythian | now do that command |
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05:53 | Oak | cait++ |
05:56 | syed | eythian:syedsyed-pc:~/Desktop/Koha/release$ sudo -u koha misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -z -b -a DBI connect('dbname=koha;host=localhost;port=3306','kohaadmin',...) failed: Access denied for user 'kohaadmin'@'localhost' (using password: YES) at C4/Context.pm line 692 Access denied for user 'kohaadmin'@'localhost' (using password: YES) at C4/Context.pm |
05:57 | line 692. | |
05:58 | eythian | you've either set your database up wrong, or you've set your koha-conf.xml up wrong. One of them has the wrong password or permissions not right. |
05:58 | > Access denied for user 'kohaadmin'@'localhost' (using password: YES) | |
05:58 | that's the key bit | |
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06:01 | syed | eythian: i have opened .... syedsyed-pc:~$ sudo gedit /home/syed/Desktop/Koha/release/etc/koha-conf.xml |
06:02 | eythian | I think all the instructions are in the INSTALL.ubuntu file. |
06:03 | syed | ok, let me re-evaluate my installation again |
06:03 | Thanks eythian | |
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06:24 | alex_a | bonjour #koha :) |
06:27 | Oak | bonjour alex_a :) |
06:29 | alex_a | Oak: how are you ? |
06:29 | Oak | good alex_a . how are you? |
06:30 | alex_a | Oak: good :) |
06:30 | Oak | cool :) |
06:31 | alex_a | despite the rain at Marseille ... |
06:31 | Oak | ooh i love rain |
06:31 | @wunder islamabad | |
06:31 | huginn | Oak: The current temperature in Islamabad Airport, Pakistan is 35.0�C (11:00 AM PKT on June 23, 2011). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 39%. Dew Point: 22.0�C. Pressure: 29.41 in 996 hPa. |
06:31 | alex_a | truly ? |
06:32 | Oak | yup |
06:32 | and dark clouds | |
06:32 | and trees | |
06:32 | alex_a | héhé |
06:32 | Oak | :) |
06:32 | eythian | It's raining here, and I'm supposed to be biking home. I might take the bus instead. |
06:32 | alex_a | @wunder Marseille |
06:32 | huginn | alex_a: The current temperature in Marseille / Marignane, France is 20.0�C (8:00 AM CEST on June 23, 2011). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: 17.0�C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Rising). |
06:32 | alex_a | Light rain :-/ |
06:33 | not light for me | |
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06:33 | reiveune | hello |
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06:39 | alex_a | bonjour paul_p |
06:40 | paul_p | hi alex_a & all |
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07:01 | francharb | hello all |
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07:02 | glernil | good day! |
07:02 | sophie_m | hello #koha |
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07:11 | syed | hi all... i had run.. sudo -u koha misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -z -b -a |
07:12 | Oak | and what happened ? :) |
07:12 | syed | Error.... DBI connect('dbname=koha;host=localhost;port=3306','kohaadmin',...) failed: Access denied for user 'kohaadmin'@'localhost' (using password: YES) at C4/Context.pm line 692 Access denied for user 'kohaadmin'@'localhost' (using password: YES) at C4/Context.pm line 692. |
07:12 | any sugg. plz | |
07:12 | Oak | you username/password for the Koha DB must match with what you put in koha-conf.xml |
07:13 | syed | is there any config until that i should run again ... |
07:13 | or from where i can change my koha-conf.xml | |
07:13 | ? | |
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07:15 | Oak | i have it in /etc/koha/ |
07:15 | i am on Slackware not Ubintu | |
07:15 | syed | yes i also have in same folder |
07:15 | Oak | Ubuntu |
07:16 | at the end of the file is the detail for DB | |
07:16 | syed | <config> <db_scheme>mysql</db_scheme> <database>koha</database> <hostname>localhost</hostname> <port>3306</port> <user>kohaadmin</user> |
07:16 | bellows | hi |
07:18 | anybody can help me in creating barcode labels ? | |
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07:25 | Oak | syed, and a <pass> is also set... |
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07:33 | syed | DBD::mysql::st execute failed: Table 'kohadb.marc_subfield_structure' doesn't exist at C4/Context.pm line 852. |
07:34 | yes password also set... it's run now... but now got this error | |
07:34 | DBD::mysql::st execute failed: Table 'kohadb.marc_subfield_structure' doesn't exist at C4/Context.pm line 852. | |
07:34 | i think.. table structure missing | |
07:35 | what u sugg.? | |
07:35 | DBD::mysql::st fetchrow failed: fetch() without execute() at C4/Context.pm line 853. DBD::mysql::st execute failed: Table 'kohadb.zebraqueue' doesn't exist at misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl line 264. | |
07:36 | eythian | you haven't gone to the web installer to set up your koha |
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07:40 | syed | eythian: No, i have'nt yet |
07:41 | cait | hi #koha |
07:41 | eythian | well then you'll have no tables set up, so rebuild_zebra has nothing to work with |
07:41 | Oak | heya cait :) |
07:41 | syed | how to configure web installer on ubuntu... |
07:41 | cait | morning Oak |
07:41 | today cait is going to stay - german holiday :) | |
07:41 | Oak | guten morgen cait :) |
07:41 | yay | |
07:42 | syed | eythian: i'm new on ubuntu... |
07:42 | Oak | cookies for all then |
07:42 | cait | lol |
07:42 | * cait | takes a cookie |
07:42 | eythian | read the instructions. But it's probably something like going to localhost:8080 in firefox |
07:43 | syed | http://localhost:8080/ : no page found |
07:43 | alex_a | hello cait |
07:44 | syed | do u knew.. any command to rebuild_zebra? |
07:44 | eythian | stop trying to rebuild zebra until you get data in there |
07:44 | there's no point | |
07:44 | syed | so what u sugg. me... for the next step |
07:46 | eythian | get into the web installer and set it up. |
07:46 | The instructions are a bit too implicit about that, annoyingly | |
07:46 | but if you've done the apache configuration correctly, it'll be on localhost:8080 | |
07:47 | if it's not, then you haven't done that correctly | |
07:47 | syed | yes i have done apache config correctly |
07:47 | but no web installer | |
07:48 | i have no idea how to install web installer | |
07:48 | eythian | then you haven't done it correctly. If you're working on a remote machine, then it'll be the IP address of that machine rather than localhost. |
07:48 | the web installer is installed by default | |
07:48 | syed | ok |
07:48 | * eythian | goes back to fixing a bug that's causing him headaches. |
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07:52 | eythian | public service announcment: cardnumber is _never_ a good way of uniquely tracking users on internal forms. |
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08:03 | cait | eythian: where did you find it? |
08:03 | eythian | cait: in the code that handles placing reserves |
08:03 | it uses card number to identify the user that is placing the reserve. | |
08:03 | not, say, borrowernumber. | |
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08:11 | cait | eythian: ouch |
08:13 | eythian | quite. Especially as one of our clients doesn't have card numbers for most of its borrowers. |
08:13 | cait | hm you scan the cardnumber there but it should translate into a borrowernumber? |
08:13 | hm | |
08:13 | so they search only by name? | |
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08:20 | eythian | cait: yeah |
08:20 | it's for an organisation, not a public library or anything | |
08:21 | so they don't have library cards or anything like that. | |
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09:18 | Amit_Gupta | heya ll |
09:18 | heya all | |
09:21 | how can we generate single patron card in koha not using batch | |
09:21 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6526] Hold requests require cardnumbers to be set <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6526> |
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09:24 | druthb | o/ |
09:25 | Amit_Gupta | heay druthb |
09:25 | druthb | Hi, Amit. :) |
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09:45 | mibSHY | HI KOHA# |
09:46 | druthb | hi, mibshy. no need to yell. |
09:47 | mibSHY | :) |
09:48 | i have a doubt. | |
09:48 | Shall I customize the search list format of books in staff client? | |
09:49 | * druthb | is not sure she understands the question? |
09:49 | Judit | druthb is not alone :) |
09:50 | mibSHY | When I am searching for some books the list comes like as below. |
09:50 | 1. Leadership in Healthcare | |
09:50 | Barr, Jill and Dowding, Lesley Description: London : xiv, 253 p. ISBN: 141292068X Books Books Books | |
09:51 | Judit | what do you want to have instead? |
09:51 | mibSHY | I dont want to display ISBN, item type and the title 'Description:' before the publisher in the search list. |
09:52 | Also the book type is coming more than once - Books Books Books. how can I customize th eformat of this list? | |
09:53 | druthb | That should be a relatively simple modification of the template. Not sure why Books is showing up multiple times, tho. |
09:53 | eythian | mibSHY: have you turned on XSLT for search results? |
09:53 | * eythian | goes home. It's well past time for being at work still. |
09:54 | mibSHY | XSLTResultsDisplay is set as normally |
09:55 | druthb | Then the template controls the display, and tweaking opac-results.tt should let you get what you want. |
09:55 | eythian | "set normally" doesn't say what it is though |
09:57 | mibSHY | druthb: for editing template which file I have to edit. I am not much familiar with koha files |
09:57 | druthb | Normally = template; XSLT= XSL |
09:57 | (unless someone's gone n monkeyed with that.) | |
09:58 | mibshy, getting familiar with what's where in the Koha files is Job 1. Without that, you're without a compass, and can hose things up pretty dramatically pretty fast. | |
10:00 | mibSHY | ok. |
10:00 | druthb | all the opac templates live in subdirectories of koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl. |
10:01 | * druthb | heads out for some breakfast. |
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10:29 | Brooke | kia ora |
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10:45 | mibSHY | thanks druthb. |
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10:46 | Brooke | hooray Travisa was just yelled at over Passport Processing. |
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11:41 | miguel | hello koha |
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11:46 | miguel | the preference "AllowOnShelfHolds", i think that it don't funtion that explains |
11:46 | cait | hm |
11:47 | we use both settings, but in 3.2.2 | |
11:47 | there it works | |
11:47 | miguel | so I can see, hide the Place Hold button in opac |
11:47 | cait | or at least the libraries have not told me about any problems |
11:47 | it should only hide it if there are still available items | |
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12:12 | miguel | both the 3.2 and in the 3.4, the preference is passed to the template of pl without checking the status of items |
12:13 | preference hides the Place Hold button | |
12:13 | Am I right? | |
12:16 | cait | only in some cases it should hide it |
12:16 | not always | |
12:16 | and sometimes it might not hide it but still refuse you to place a hold with a message | |
12:16 | it's been al ong time since I tested that for our libraries | |
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12:17 | cait | what do you intend to do? |
12:17 | if you want to hide the button always and forever I think this is opacreserves or something | |
12:17 | similar named | |
12:17 | hi oleonard | |
12:17 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
12:18 | cait | allowonshelfholds is about allowing holds on items not checked out. when off a hold should only be allowed if all items of a record are checked out |
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12:50 | oleonard | Hi tcohen and druthb |
12:51 | druthb | hi, oleonard! :) |
12:51 | cait | hi druthb :) |
12:51 | tcohen | hi oleonard |
12:51 | druthb | :) hi cait |
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14:17 | rangi | @wunder santa barbara, ca |
14:17 | huginn | rangi: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 13.9�C (7:17 AM PDT on June 23, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 99%. Dew Point: 14.0�C. Pressure: 29.87 in 1011.4 hPa (Rising). |
14:18 | druthb | good morning, rangi! |
14:19 | talljoy | that sounds a bit chilly this morning. |
14:19 | @wunder 76109 | |
14:19 | huginn | talljoy: The current temperature in Team Ranch, Benbrook, Texas is 25.5�C (9:19 AM CDT on June 23, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 20.0�C. Pressure: 29.93 in 1013.4 hPa (Steady). Air pollution watch level Orange in effect for today... |
14:19 | druthb | @wunder 20852 |
14:19 | huginn | druthb: The current temperature in Potomac Woods, Rockville, Maryland is 26.4�C (10:19 AM EDT on June 23, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 21.0�C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009.0 hPa (Steady). |
14:19 | oleonard | Welcome to our shores rangi |
14:19 | rangi | thank you |
14:19 | Agent_Dani | @wunder 27705 |
14:19 | huginn | Agent_Dani: The current temperature in Huckleberry Heights, Durham, North Carolina is 27.1�C (10:19 AM EDT on June 23, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 20.0�C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013.1 hPa (Steady). |
14:20 | rangi | 14 is perfect |
14:20 | talljoy | how about where we are going.... |
14:20 | @wunder 70112 | |
14:20 | huginn | talljoy: The current temperature in Mid City Station, New Orleans, Louisiana is 27.2�C (9:20 AM CDT on June 23, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 85%. Dew Point: 24.0�C. Pressure: 30.00 in 1015.8 hPa (Steady). |
14:20 | wizzyrea | @wunder lawrence, ks |
14:20 | huginn | wizzyrea: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 22.4�C (9:20 AM CDT on June 23, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 15.0�C. Pressure: 29.85 in 1010.7 hPa (Steady). |
14:20 | wizzyrea | yesterday was the most perfect day you can get in kansas |
14:20 | Agent_Dani | Ought to be decent weather for me to walk to campus and pick up my Roku. |
14:25 | * cait | waves |
14:25 | cait | t |
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14:44 | miguel | cait: i was eating |
14:46 | I know what I should do the preference but I tested this code | |
14:46 | and not checking the status of items | |
14:50 | maybe I'm wrong shy | |
14:56 | cait | I have not tested it for a longer time |
14:56 | not sure, there might be a tt issue | |
14:56 | all I can say is that I see it working in 3.2.2 | |
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15:01 | reiveune | bye |
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15:05 | miguel | i have 3.2 |
15:06 | and the code is the same | |
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15:07 | cait | miguel: not sure then |
15:07 | miguel | and allowonshelfholds circulation rules works fine but not the system pref |
15:07 | Oak | heya druthb :) |
15:08 | guten tag cait :) | |
15:08 | hello #koha | |
15:08 | rhcl | hi oak |
15:08 | Oak | :) |
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15:12 | cait | miguel: circulation rules? |
15:12 | are you on a branch? | |
15:13 | I think this biblibre development is not in an official version yet | |
15:13 | salaam Oak :) | |
15:13 | (was this right?) | |
15:13 | miguel | yes, cait |
15:13 | Oak | ah :) danke cait |
15:13 | perfect! | |
15:14 | cait | miguel: so perhaps it's a bug then |
15:14 | if the circulation rules are in place they perhaps are supposed to replace the sys pref | |
15:14 | druthb | Salaam, Oak. :) |
15:14 | miguel | in the 3.4 official it is not correct |
15:14 | cait | I have not testd this development yet |
15:14 | Oak | :) peace be upon you too druthb |
15:14 | miguel | i test 3.2 official now |
15:15 | cait | ok |
15:15 | ah,my scrolling is broken again :( | |
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15:21 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6527] Table striping not working on cataloguing search <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6527> |
15:23 | wizzyrea | there is actually quite a lot wrong with the cataloging search |
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15:23 | wizzyrea | things not showing up like they should, data that looks like it ought to be displayed but isn't |
15:23 | * wizzyrea | will file a raft of bugs on it. |
15:23 | sighs | |
15:24 | cait | wizzyrea+ |
15:24 | wizzyrea++ | |
15:24 | filing bugs is the first step | |
15:24 | * oleonard | will cling to the raft of bugs when his boat sinks |
15:24 | cait | :) |
15:24 | wizzyrea | at least you'll have something to sit on :P |
15:24 | * cait | hopes oleonard will not sink |
15:24 | * wizzyrea | too |
15:25 | * cait | shares a package of cookies with #koha |
15:25 | oleonard | wizzyrea: Just room enough for me though, Leonardo DiCaprio is on his own. |
15:25 | cait | I forgot to go shopping yesterday and today is holiday |
15:25 | wizzyrea | tom hanks too |
15:25 | (they can drown together, that is) | |
15:25 | cait | patch 21/21? |
15:25 | :) | |
15:26 | wizzyrea | gfdi I hate this new version of git it makes me irritated |
15:26 | oleonard | ? |
15:26 | wizzyrea | it didn't used to put that on |
15:26 | rangi | -N |
15:26 | thats all you need | |
15:26 | wizzyrea | phew, thx |
15:27 | cait | hi rangi |
15:27 | * wizzyrea | is sorry to be sweary |
15:27 | cait | how is New orleans? |
15:27 | rangi | im in california still so dont know :) |
15:27 | cait | oh |
15:28 | ok, how is california? :) | |
15:28 | oleonard | wizzyrea: I think "gfdi" is less sweary than the "f<bleep>k" we hear on TV |
15:28 | wizzyrea | well it's got a greater number of implied swear words :) |
15:28 | but you're probably right on that point | |
15:29 | and a blaspheme to boot :P | |
15:31 | oleonard | rangi: Are you still airport-hopping or do you have a break in Cali? |
15:31 | miguel | cait: the lines code is the same in a 3.2 official, but I will not be upset if you say it works ... |
15:31 | cait | miguel: I am quite sure I tested it in 3.1.61 because that was our first production system and the library is now on 3.2.2 - so it should work |
15:32 | - or they didn#t realize yet it doesn't | |
15:32 | but I would be a little surprised, they have stacks where people order things | |
15:32 | rangi | oleonard: hanging with brendan today, we fly out this afternoon |
15:33 | alex_a | bye |
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15:33 | oleonard | cool, glad you have a break after that nightmare series of flights |
15:33 | rangi | yeah that wasnt much fun |
15:34 | cait | happy you arrived savely |
15:34 | I think 36 hours is even longer than it took me to nz - without the stay in london | |
15:35 | rangi | only flying for 18 of those hours too |
15:35 | the rest was waiting | |
15:35 | wizzyrea | ugh |
15:35 | rangi | ash is getting worse apparently, so might be fun going back |
15:36 | wizzyrea | :( |
15:36 | got a good stretch before you have to leave though right? | |
15:37 | rangi | 29th |
15:37 | wizzyrea | maybe it'll be better by then |
15:37 | rangi | hope so :) |
15:40 | ok time to be social | |
15:40 | bbl | |
15:40 | peace out (im adapting to the environment) | |
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15:41 | oleonard | :P |
15:41 | wizzyrea | does anybody know what the actual difference is between the cataloging search and the regular search in the staff client (besides the reservoir thing) |
15:41 | briceSanc | Hello all, I've a great news for this community |
15:41 | wizzyrea | ooo, I like good news |
15:41 | oleonard | wizzyrea: I thought the cataloging search didn't use Zebra |
15:42 | wizzyrea | that seems likely, as additems.pl uses C4::Search and Search.pl uses C4::Search:PazPar2 |
15:43 | with an extra colon, of course | |
15:43 | so my question is - what's the benefit? Am I being dense? | |
15:43 | inform me | |
15:44 | oleonard | wizzyrea I could be wrong but I think it's just a matter of no one having touched it since we switched to using Zebra |
15:44 | briceSanc | We are currently working on the checkout by hour for Koha 3.4 and the customer want to release it for the community after the end of development |
15:44 | i hope nobody work on that functionnality =D | |
15:44 | wizzyrea | one of my coworkers claims it's a "more exact search" |
15:45 | oleonard | wizzyrea: I think that's true, and less forgiving |
15:45 | wizzyrea | something catalogers probably like |
15:46 | hum | |
15:47 | cait | briceSanc: I thought bywater was working on hourly loans |
15:47 | not sure though | |
15:47 | druthb | that is correct. |
15:48 | cait | briceSanc: there is a spec on the wiki, have you seen that? |
15:51 | briceSanc | cait, the last year, i develop this functionnality for Koha 3.2 but the customers didn't want to release it. I didn't know that bywaters working on that |
15:51 | now | |
15:56 | cait | ah |
15:57 | the spec was very detailed | |
15:57 | perhaps you want to compare | |
15:57 | bug 5549 | |
15:57 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5549 enhancement, P5, ---, ian.walls, ASSIGNED , Hourly Loans |
15:57 | cait | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]/Hourly_Loans_RFC |
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17:08 | rangi | back from a nice walk on the beach |
17:10 | druthb | :) |
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17:18 | cait | :) |
17:23 | Agent_Dani | rangi: Sweet! I'm missing the beach right now. |
17:29 | * talljoy | wishes there was a beach in N.O. instead of swamps. |
17:37 | Agent_Dani | No beach near me, unless you count the man-made ones on Jordan and Falls Lakes (I don't.) No swamps, either, at least. |
17:38 | cait | no real beaches with sand here |
17:38 | but lot's of nice lawns at the lake | |
17:38 | Agent_Dani | But, a couple hundred miles either way and I can have beach or mountains. :D Looking forward to the latter next week. |
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18:03 | rhcl | I live by the Missouri River, which is flooding and breaking through levee's everywhere, so I have a heck of a beach right now. |
18:09 | * tcohen | is friendly jealous of rangi right now |
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18:34 | hdl | hi miguel |
18:34 | hi all | |
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18:38 | cait | hi hdl |
18:59 | clrh | bye |
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19:27 | Brooke | thisblows |
19:27 | wizzyrea | ? |
19:27 | Brooke | alt tab! |
19:31 | wahanui: Indian visa? | |
19:31 | wahanui | brooke: i don't know |
19:32 | Brooke | wahanui: Indian visa is multi entry Tourist Visa *wink wink* *nudge nudge* |
19:32 | wahanui | OK, Brooke. |
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21:08 | library_systems_guy | I can run the overdues script as often as I want in the cron correct? |
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21:16 | rhcl | lsg: I believe so, yes. You are generating notices I assume? |
21:16 | The notices hit triggers, 1st, 2nd, which are set by the number of days. | |
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21:29 | library_systems_guy | rhcl is it possible to send out more than 3 notices? |
21:30 | for our ILL's we'd like to send them out everyday since they cost so much in fines | |
21:32 | rhcl | No, I think you can only send out 3 overdue notices. I don't know if this is customizable, but our 3rd overdue notice is considered a bill, which lists prices for the books unlike the 1st and 2nd overdue notices. |
21:34 | Presumably you want to send email notices? Not paper? | |
21:36 | We have email notices turned off, but if you turn that on the people with email addresses on file would get email notices, and those w/o email addresses would get paper notices. | |
21:39 | library_systems_guy | yes we only send out email notices (since we only deal with students we have that luxury) |
21:39 | but only sending out 3 notices is going to make the ILL librarian freak | |
21:40 | do you you think sending out notices based on types is something other libraries would be interested in? | |
21:42 | rhcl | ic. Well, like I said, afaik you can only send three; you can set the timing on those. You might consider some staggered spacing, like 2 days, then 4 days, then 7 days. Something like a Fibonacci series. |
21:43 | Yes, personally I can see merit in having a variable number of notices. I also think it should be possible to select both email and paper notices for those overdue patrons w/ email. | |
21:44 | We also need a bill notice, which gives a total price for books. Currently the 3rd overdue we use lists the price for books, but not a total. | |
21:44 | library_systems_guy | hmm well I have a credit I need to earn for class so maybe I can call that my class project and just write it in |
21:45 | rhcl | well, that should be worth two credits! |
21:45 | library_systems_guy | lol yeah thats what I'm thinking |
21:45 | it looks like a lot of work | |
21:45 | rhcl | Make sure somebody isn't already working on it, however. I know it's been talked about. |
21:45 | library_systems_guy | oh really |
21:46 | ok ill look at the wiki | |
21:46 | rhcl | yea, but I don't think anybody is actually coding it yet. |
21:46 | library_systems_guy | lol well maybe they have a plan to go at it |
21:46 | im still new | |
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21:49 | library_systems_guy | not to be a bother rhcl but I'm working on adding the item location to the results page and I can't seem to get the variable name correct in the sxlt stylesheet |
21:49 | do you have any experience with it? | |
21:49 | rhcl | results page? |
21:49 | item search? | |
21:50 | library_systems_guy | opac-search |
21:52 | rhcl | hummm, not sure I can help much with that one, but there are three "locations", branch, current and shelving |
21:52 | library_systems_guy | right, i see the homebranch gets printed |
21:53 | but the way the variable gets passed eludes me :-/ | |
21:53 | i guess it just gets shoved in a hash | |
21:54 | rhcl | there ought to be a database tool analogous to wireshark, where you can live tap into the database queries and see them. |
21:54 | library_systems_guy | hmm thats not a bad idea |
21:54 | rhcl | logically I wouldn't think it would be a hash - surely it's just a variable |
21:55 | wizzyrea | what marc field is it that you're trying to show |
21:55 | library_systems_guy | im not really sure, like i said im new...I know it exists because I can print it in normal mode for opac |
21:55 | using tt | |
21:56 | wizzyrea | what's the tag for it in normal |
21:56 | library_systems_guy | location |
21:57 | but it looks like it is in a nested separate loop | |
21:57 | wizzyrea | something like [% available_items_loo.location %] |
21:57 | library_systems_guy | yeah thats it |
21:58 | wizzyrea | single or multi branch |
21:59 | oh bother | |
21:59 | library_systems_guy | multibranch |
21:59 | wizzyrea | I have to go in like 2 minutes :( |
21:59 | library_systems_guy | oh no :'( |
21:59 | wizzyrea | so you have a location and a branch you want to show |
21:59 | library_systems_guy | correct, so I'd like to show the shelving location |
21:59 | and the branch | |
21:59 | wahanui | the branch is gone |
21:59 | wizzyrea | forget the branch |
21:59 | wahanui | wizzyrea: I forgot branch |
22:00 | library_systems_guy | Ex: Copies available for loan: Robert R. Muntz Library Stacks 3rd Floor [HX15 .S67 ser. B, no. 55] (1). |
22:00 | wizzyrea | gah, I can poke at this more tomorrow if you like |
22:00 | kiddo is expecting me :( | |
22:00 | library_systems_guy | sure, I'd really appreciate it |
22:00 | wizzyrea | byee |
22:01 | library_systems_guy | aww ok |
22:01 | thanks wizzyrea | |
22:01 | wizzyrea | sure |
22:01 | library_systems_guy | wizzyrea++ rhcl++ |
22:01 | rhcl | gl |
22:02 | library_systems_guy | thanks rhcl |
22:02 | rhcl | np |
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22:56 | rhcl | wahanui: time? |
22:56 | wahanui | somebody said time was a scary thing |
22:56 | rhcl is now known as rhcl_away | |
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