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00:00 | slef | and I've internet again... wonder what that was about |
00:00 | On the plus side, I've discovered my backup connection is down too, before it really matters ;-) | |
00:05 | pianohacker | @last seen sekjal |
00:05 | huginn | pianohacker: (last [--{from,in,on,with,without,regexp} <value>] [--nolimit]) -- Returns the last message matching the given criteria. --from requires a nick from whom the message came; --in requires a channel the message was sent to; --on requires a network the message was sent on; --with requires some string that had to be in the message; --regexp requires a regular expression the message must match; (1 more message) |
00:05 | pianohacker | @last sekjal |
00:05 | huginn | pianohacker: (last [--{from,in,on,with,without,regexp} <value>] [--nolimit]) -- Returns the last message matching the given criteria. --from requires a nick from whom the message came; --in requires a channel the message was sent to; --on requires a network the message was sent on; --with requires some string that had to be in the message; --regexp requires a regular expression the message must match; (1 more message) |
00:05 | slef | @seen sekjal |
00:05 | huginn | slef: sekjal was last seen in #koha 10 hours, 49 minutes, and 29 seconds ago: <sekjal> hey, all, I can't stay long (meetings), but I wanted to thank everyone working on the signoffs today. I'll try to make sure those are pushed through QA as quickly as I can |
00:05 | pianohacker | oh, right |
00:05 | thanks | |
00:07 | eythian | pianohacker: rangi won't be around much today, I expect. He's up north telling people they want Koha. |
00:07 | pianohacker | eythian: ok, thanks |
00:08 | In that case, does anyone know what the procedure is for a patch that fails signoff or qa? Resubmit, or an additional patch? | |
00:09 | eythian | whichever suits the situation I expect. |
00:11 | slef | resubmit 9/10? |
00:12 | pianohacker | k |
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00:42 | druthb | o/ |
00:43 | \o | |
00:43 | \o\ | |
00:43 | /o/ | |
00:43 | eythian | get up, get up and DANCE |
00:43 | druthb | \o/ |
00:43 | Agent_Dani | >.< |
00:43 | druthb | lol |
00:43 | Agent_Dani | Evening, druthb |
00:43 | eythian | http://bash.org/?4281 <-- see also |
00:44 | mtj | hi folks |
00:44 | druthb | hi, Dani. :) |
00:45 | mtj | ive got another 3m self-check question. for slef or bywater peeps |
00:46 | has anyone experienced 'BAD SEQUENCE' SIP message errors on the 3m before? | |
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01:10 | steven | hi anyone there? |
01:11 | i'm using koha 3.2.0...but i would like to upgrade to the latest 3.4.1, can anyone guide me on how to upgrade it? | |
01:13 | slef | steven: have you seen the UPGRADE section of the INSTALL file in the download? |
01:14 | pianohacker: I tweaked your bug 6492 patch a little during signoff and fluffed the description layout a bit. Hope you don't mind. | |
01:14 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6492 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, pianohacker, ASSIGNED , Deleted biblios cause rebuild_zebra to fail |
01:14 | steven | slef: how can I access the INSTALL file? |
01:16 | mtj | sorry, got distracted.. |
01:16 | slef | steven: when you unpack the koha 3.4.1 download, there will be a choice of INSTALL files in it. |
01:17 | mtj | steven: or look in the Koha git repo |
01:17 | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]oha.git;a=summary | |
01:17 | slef | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]693300df8fa9fb0f6 is 3.4.1 |
01:17 | mtj | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]p=koha.git;a=tree |
01:18 | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]7e91b6efd;hb=HEAD | |
01:18 | slef | 3.4.1 is http://git.koha-community.org/[…]693300df8fa9fb0f6 rather |
01:18 | 3.4.1? | |
01:18 | wahanui | 3.4.1 is http://git.koha-community.org/[…]693300df8fa9fb0f6 rather |
01:18 | slef | :) |
01:18 | mtj | ah, even better :) |
01:19 | steven | so i dont need to backup mySQL database during upgrading? |
01:19 | slef | steven: it would be a good idea to do so. |
01:19 | steven: you should be backing it up regularly anyway IMO. | |
01:20 | mtj | slef: could i pick your brain about my 3m-SC problem? |
01:20 | steven: you deserve a slap for that :) | |
01:20 | slef | mtj: my brain is asleep :-( I don't remember seeing that error. Seems like the sort of thing that would be on the web. |
01:21 | mtj | its a more subtle problem that that |
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01:21 | steven | ya...i do backup for the whole system.... |
01:21 | slef | hmm, "BAD SEQUENCE" is not a search-engine friendly term |
01:22 | steven: it's worth taking a backup before you upgrade, to give an easier escape route if things go wrong. | |
01:24 | steven | so in term of variable and database structure using between 3.2.0 and 3.4.1....is there any changes? |
01:24 | mtj | im hoping my 3m problem turns out to be a hardware clock bug :/ |
01:25 | the 3m was 50 seconds fast, with a busted ntpd | |
01:26 | steven: yep | |
01:26 | steven | so how is the command for upgrading? |
01:27 | mtj | ive only used git , so far |
01:27 | but i recommend the deb packages | |
01:28 | steven | i just downloaded the tar.gz version |
01:29 | previously i m using koha live cd to complete the installation....so i am not so familiar with the command in ubuntu platform | |
01:30 | mtj | http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian |
01:31 | ah, i dont think the deb packages have been built for 3.4 | |
01:32 | so... i recommend git | |
01:32 | steven | bcoz i m using ubuntu.... |
01:32 | eythian | there are no packages for 3.4 yet, but they will hopefully be coming with the nest release, there were issues that had to be fixed. |
01:32 | steven | and i m new to the platform actually...so i dont have much acknowledge |
01:33 | then can i update to 3.2.9? | |
01:33 | *knowledge | |
01:33 | mtj | use debian if you are serious about a production Koha install |
01:33 | most Koha dev and prod boxes are debian | |
01:34 | steven | how can i convert to debian platform? |
01:34 | u mean i have to re-install the whole system? | |
01:34 | slef | @query 3.4 |
01:34 | huginn | slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5999 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Biblibre : Performance enhancements for 3.4 |
01:34 | slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5575 enhancement, P5, ---, paul.poulain, NEW , 3.4 BibLibre circ & members improvements | |
01:34 | slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5992 enhancement, P5, ---, paul.poulain, NEW , Biblibre various improvements for 3.4 | |
01:34 | slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5574 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED , 3.4 cataloguing improvements | |
01:34 | slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6361 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, robin, ASSIGNED , Packages need support for the 3.4 upgrade | |
01:35 | slef | that's it, the last one: "I'm hoping to make packages for the next 3.4 release." ;-) |
01:35 | bye | |
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02:11 | Brooke | kia ora |
02:20 | eythian | �hola! |
02:24 | Brooke | :D |
02:24 | hola amigo, que passsaaaa? | |
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03:37 | Amit_Gupta | heya chris ;) |
03:37 | good morning koha ;) | |
03:43 | jransom | heya Amit |
03:54 | Amit_Gupta | heya jransom |
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05:05 | cait | morning |
05:05 | Oak | guten morgen cait :) |
05:05 | eythian | howdy |
05:06 | Oak | hello mr. robin |
05:06 | :) | |
05:12 | cait | hi mr robin |
05:12 | guten morgen Oak :) | |
05:12 | Oak | :) |
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05:29 | Oak | welcome back oh miss |
05:29 | cait | thx |
05:29 | :) | |
05:29 | Oak | :p |
05:29 | cait | how was the lunar eclipse? |
05:30 | Oak | very mysterious |
05:30 | first time I every saw.. normally i don't bother | |
05:31 | saw it when it less than half darkened.. then late at night saw when moon was totally dark... very dim... barely visible | |
05:32 | did you see it? | |
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05:52 | cait | Oak: no, but it was very cloudy, so probably difficult to get a good view |
05:52 | Oak | ah |
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05:56 | cait | Oak: we are going to the zoo today :) |
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06:06 | alex_a | bonjour cait, Oak ! |
06:07 | cait | bonjour alex_a |
06:07 | and bye all :) have a nice day! | |
06:11 | alex_a | thx cait you too |
06:11 | Oak | oh good cait :) with your little cousin? |
06:11 | bonjour alex_a :) | |
06:13 | ... cait because you said something like that when bug sign off day was being discussed and you said 16 is no good... have to take someone to zoo | |
06:14 | i think | |
06:17 | cait | no, not a cousin |
06:17 | my best friends :) | |
06:17 | Oak | good |
06:17 | cait | will drag them to see the elephants bathing |
06:17 | Oak | excellent |
06:17 | who would want to miss that :) | |
06:17 | cait | :) |
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06:30 | reiveune | hello |
06:30 | wahanui | privet, reiveune |
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06:52 | christophe_c | hi all |
06:52 | Oak | hello christophe_c :) |
06:52 | christophe_c | ;-) |
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07:03 | julian | hello! |
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07:08 | Oak | hello julian :) |
07:09 | francharb | hello all |
07:09 | Oak | hello francharb :) |
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07:49 | Oak | this is good song to be listening when fixing bugs: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syyWdriHtFE :p funky |
08:03 | or, this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PShe80ZD6oA | |
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08:30 | slef | @later tell cait summoning does work but not very quickly ;-) |
08:30 | huginn | slef: The operation succeeded. |
08:30 | magnuse | how big was the delay? ;-) |
08:31 | slef | about 26 hours |
08:31 | magnuse | hehe |
08:32 | slef | I'm happy with the present the co-op has given me. I can sign off again :) |
08:32 | magnuse | yay! Present? |
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08:33 | imageologist | hi, |
08:34 | magnuse | hiya imageologist |
08:35 | slef | magnuse: well, I didn't install the server I'm using. |
08:35 | imageologist | nice to meet u hiya |
08:35 | are you using koha? | |
08:35 | i have some issues | |
08:36 | magnuse | nice to meet you too, imageologist |
08:36 | imageologist: bring 'em on, and we'll see what we can do | |
08:36 | we're all koha people in here (but i'm not sure how many people are actually here at the moment ;-) | |
08:36 | imageologist | :) |
08:37 | i'm looking for Koha for Windows | |
08:37 | is there any release for windows XP? | |
08:37 | magnuse | ah, that's a tough one |
08:37 | nope | |
08:37 | i think maybe you can get 2.2.9 to work, but that is really old now | |
08:38 | imageologist | so its purly based on linux |
08:38 | magnuse | do you just want to test koha? |
08:38 | slef | Windows? |
08:38 | wahanui | Windows is only version 7 |
08:38 | magnuse | or are you looking to run it on windows in production? |
08:38 | slef | wahanui: forget Windows |
08:38 | wahanui | slef: I forgot windows |
08:38 | imageologist | yeah i found it on http://www.koha.rwjr.com/Koha_[…]indows.html#d0e64 |
08:39 | magnuse | the problem is that some of the perl modules koha needs are not easily available for windows at the moment |
08:39 | imageologist | but really its too old... and nothing found any good support regarding 2.2.9 release |
08:39 | slef | Windows is a poor fit for free software like Koha. Some of the thing's we use heavily are not easily available at the moment. No-one's funded Koha 3.x for Windows and I'm not sure who'd be willing to work on it. You are probably best off using a liveCD for testing, then commissioning a GNU/Linux server. |
08:40 | magnuse | but i have heard rumors that http://strawberryperl.com/ will fix this, but i'm not sure when and how |
08:40 | slef | damn, ytpo, never mind |
08:40 | imageologist: any reason not to use GNU/Linux for it? | |
08:40 | magnuse | running linux w/koha in a virtual machine is also an option |
08:41 | slef | yeah, server, virtual server, all is good |
08:41 | imageologist | yeah currently i'm testing this VM |
08:41 | on Linux | |
08:42 | magnuse | there are some notes on koha and strawberry here: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ki/StrawberryPerl but that page has not been updated for a year... |
08:43 | imageologist: you have a vm running linux on your windows machine? | |
08:43 | imageologist | yes |
08:43 | magnuse | cool |
08:43 | that is probably the easiest option | |
08:44 | imageologist | yeah... i'm not very much cognizant on Linux |
08:45 | i just got a project for a local public library... | |
08:45 | so that's why... i'm reviewing on koha | |
08:45 | magnuse | cool |
08:45 | imageologist | to deploy a completes solution for this library |
08:46 | magnuse | makes me curious as to whereabouts in the world the library is located... ;-) |
08:48 | alex_a | @quote random wahanui: slef: I forgot windows |
08:48 | huginn | alex_a: (quote random [<channel>]) -- Returns a random quote from <channel>. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent in the channel itself. |
08:48 | alex_a | arf |
08:49 | @quote add wahanui: slef: I forgot windows | |
08:49 | @quote add wahanui: slef: I forgot windows | |
08:49 | huginn | alex_a: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). |
08:49 | alex_a | :'( |
08:49 | slef | alex_a: same problem I have with that. |
08:49 | magnuse: pk at a guess. | |
08:50 | imageologist: factor in either the cost of learning, or the cost of expert support. It'll probably still come out ahead. | |
08:50 | magnuse | slef, ah yes, probably |
08:50 | slef | alex_a: that is just so I can do this next time we get this FAQ: |
08:50 | Windows? | |
08:50 | wahanui | Windows is, like, a poor fit for free software like Koha. Some of the thing's we use heavily are not easily available at the moment. No-one's funded Koha 3.x for Windows and I'm not sure who'd be willing to work on it. You are probably best off using a liveCD for testing, then commissioning a GNU/Linux server |
08:53 | alex_a | slef: ok, i forgot add a quote too ... |
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09:55 | druthb | o/ |
09:55 | magnuse | \o |
09:55 | druthb | Hi, Magnus! :D |
09:55 | magnuse | hi there druthb |
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10:53 | magnuse | moi oakivil |
10:53 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6510] "Sort by" in intranet search alters search and number of hits <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6510> |
10:54 | oakivil | moi magnuse |
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11:28 | slef | @later tell nengard have you got their email address? I can probably find it if you need it. |
11:28 | huginn | slef: The operation succeeded. |
11:29 | slef | anyone want that needsignoff? |
11:33 | actually reading the fix, I think there is a difference magnuse | |
11:37 | deselected needsignoff on bug 6510, with comment | |
11:37 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6510 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, magnus, ASSIGNED , "Sort by" in intranet search alters search and number of hits |
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11:42 | magnuse | you are probably right, slef - i'll send a new patch in a moment |
11:42 | and i think you could have set it to "failed qa"... | |
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11:59 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6510] "Sort by" in intranet search alters search and number of hits <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6510> |
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12:09 | oleonard | Our topic needs to be updated with the next meeting info |
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12:11 | kmkale | Namaskar #koha |
12:24 | slef | have at it |
12:28 | oleonard | Dang, now I have to actually look up when the next meeting is... |
12:28 | slef | click topic and look at end of minutes? |
12:29 | 1. AGREED: next meeting is on 6 july 2011 10:00 UTC+0 (cait, 20:07:53) | |
12:31 | * oleonard | notices thd awoke from his long slumber for the meeting |
12:31 | slef | hehe |
12:31 | * slef | offers oleonard a saucer of milk |
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12:31 | oleonard | ? |
12:37 | Topic for #koha is now Koha 3.4.1 and 3.2.10 are now available | Next IRC meeting 6 July 2011 10:00 UTC+0 | http://koha-community.org/ | This channel is logged | Pastes at http://paste.koha-community.org/ | |
12:55 | jwagner | Current head, when I run the fines cron I get an error: No branchcode argument to new. Should be C4::Calendar->new(branchcode => $branchcode) at fines.pl line 135 |
12:55 | I'm not finding anything in bugzilla for that | |
12:55 | Any ideas? | |
12:55 | magnuse | a bug? ;-) |
12:56 | jwagner | Yeah, I kind of figured that :-) |
12:56 | It's been doing it since I updated sometime last week. I just did another git pull but that didn't fix it. | |
12:57 | I made sure there was at least one calendar entry. | |
12:57 | magnuse | i don't have any libraries using fines yet, so i'm not familiar with it... |
12:58 | jwagner | Surely someone must have run into this by now? |
13:04 | Found it, I think -- there's a ghost record in the issues table (deleted item) | |
13:04 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6501] Missing scroll bar when updating child <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6501> |
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13:07 | jwagner | Drat. What's the MySQL syntax to delete an entry? I don't work at that level very much |
13:08 | sekjal | jwagner: delete from <table> where <conditions> |
13:09 | jwagner | Thanks, sekjal. That did it and cleared the problem with the fines cron. |
13:09 | Very misleading error message there.... | |
13:09 | sekjal | jwagner: cool, glad to be of assistance |
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13:32 | slef | does huginn not report signoffs? |
13:32 | magnuse | don't think so, no |
13:33 | didn't see any yesterday | |
13:33 | slef | can we make him? |
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13:34 | magnuse | slef: probably |
13:34 | slef | is huginn the bot formerly known as munin? |
13:34 | oleonard | Yes |
13:34 | * slef | updates wiki |
13:35 | magnuse | thanks for the signoff, slef ;-) |
13:35 | slef | magnuse: np. I'm sure I've fixed that someone else once upon a time. |
13:35 | * sekjal | is back from is NYC meeting... lots of serial and acquisitions issues to tackle! |
13:36 | magnuse | woohoo .-) |
13:36 | meeting with a client? | |
13:36 | sekjal | magnuse: yes, a law school library |
13:37 | very serials-heavy | |
13:37 | magnuse | ah |
13:37 | sekjal | also, their previous ILS had a lot of Acquistions features they've gotten used to, so we have to be able to replicate workflows |
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13:45 | * wizzyrea | hears "replicate workflows" and shudders |
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14:03 | talljoy | good morning |
14:03 | sekjal | wizzyrea: well, perhaps "replicating workflows" is not the right phrase. The process is variable, so long as the input and output are the same, at a macro level. |
14:04 | wizzyrea | :) I just have a kind of visceral reaction to it, sorry |
14:04 | sekjal | libraries have adapted to some pretty crazy workarounds when their old system wouldn't do what they needed |
14:04 | wizzyrea | @quote get 123 |
14:04 | huginn | wizzyrea: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) |
14:23 | sekjal | one development I'm going to be spec'ing out is a "print labels" option for serials |
14:25 | NCARMichael | hey peeps. my overdue notice isn't displaying patrons' checkouts. :( Here's what I've got: |
14:25 | The following item(s) is/are currently overdue: | |
14:25 | <item>"<<biblio.title>>" by <<biblio.author>>, <<items.itemcallnumber>>, Barcode: <<items.barcode>>, Due: <<items.onloan>></item> | |
14:26 | suggestions? | |
14:26 | wahanui | suggestions are stored in the .po I think |
14:27 | wizzyrea | forget suggestions |
14:27 | wahanui | wizzyrea: I forgot suggestions |
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14:33 | NCARMichael | anyone? |
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14:34 | Brooke | kia ora |
14:35 | oleonard | http://sfconservancy.org/news/[…]/evergreen-joins/ |
14:36 | Brooke | Hooray! |
14:38 | slef | mixed feelings about that one |
14:38 | sekjal | NCARMichael: are your overdues defined per-branch, or set up for the default branch? |
14:41 | oleonard | slef: Why? |
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14:44 | NCARMichael | default branch |
14:45 | i just wonder if i'm missing a < or a > somewhere | |
14:46 | slef | oleonard: As I understand it, that's a move from a commercially-accountable organisation to a state-government-accountable one, taking it further away from its users and developers. |
14:48 | looking more closely, it may be a move from one state's oversight to another, so actually a no-op. (Georgia's GPLS to New York's SFC) | |
14:49 | Brooke | you're stretching to apply oversight through 501c3s |
14:49 | wizzyrea | yes, that, thanks |
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14:50 | gmcharlt | NCARMichael: check patron 8436; should now be fixed; issue was a hangover from what I did to get the first run of back overdue notices generated |
14:55 | slef | Brooke: so why cheer it moving between them? |
14:56 | Brooke | I cheered at the premise of more collaboration between OS projects. |
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14:57 | rhcl | EG + SFC = good |
15:03 | gmcharlt | slef: the other factor is that is moving away from any one vendor (or any one library, for that matter) asserting control over the EG project's assets and trademarks |
15:04 | wizzyrea | which, as we've seen, is probably best for the project. |
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15:08 | slef | yeah, but is having one non-profit that no community member has a stake in asserting control necessarily any better? |
15:09 | I mean, I've worked for non-profits. Don't assume they're specially godly. | |
15:09 | Brooke | that one has a very good reputation |
15:09 | conversely, don't assume that they are all corrupt. | |
15:10 | reiveune | bye |
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15:14 | slef | Brooke: No assumptions. But do you know what SFC's mission is, as stated in its constitution? |
15:15 | Brooke | Having worked in New York I knew their good reputation. |
15:15 | and I can easily look at their mission. | |
15:15 | I have no idea what benefit sewing panic everywhere you tread reaps. | |
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15:17 | slef | Not panic. Just no idea why you thought it worth cheering. |
15:17 | In god we trust. All others bring data. | |
15:18 | Brooke | aren't you an atheist? |
15:18 | slef | No. |
15:18 | Brooke | sorry mate, thought ye were ;) |
15:18 | slef | And the data I can see on SFC is ambiguous. |
15:18 | Brooke | what did I say about OCLC? |
15:19 | slef | And there's data I can't see, so it forms no part of the judgement. |
15:19 | the scary people at OCLC mostly work in the legal department? | |
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15:21 | Brooke | I wish they were that confined |
15:21 | I'm not afraid to call shite non profit when I see it | |
15:21 | but I don't see it here | |
15:22 | and more often than not, when I do call it, it's not for malicious intent but for incompetent administration | |
15:22 | neither apply here | |
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15:23 | Oak | oh Hello Brooke and druthb :) |
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15:23 | Oak | @wunder |
15:23 | huginn | Oak: (wunder <US zip code | US/Canada city, state | Foreign city, country>) -- Returns the approximate weather conditions for a given city. |
15:23 | * Brooke | hugs Oak |
15:23 | Oak | @wunder inslamabad |
15:23 | huginn | Oak: Error: No such location could be found. |
15:23 | druthb | hi, Oak. :) |
15:24 | * druthb | hugs Oak. |
15:24 | Oak | oh man two hugs |
15:24 | awesome | |
15:24 | :) | |
15:24 | Brooke | He aha ō mahi i tēnei rā? |
15:24 | Oak | oh wait, let me open that Maori page |
15:25 | Brooke | Te Reo ftw :) |
15:26 | Oak | I did SEO work on a website, then finished making a presentation, then went to attend my class, just got back... |
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15:27 | Oak | what does ftw mean? |
15:28 | wizzyrea | ftw? |
15:28 | ftw is for the win | |
15:28 | Oak | yup |
15:28 | library_systems_guy | for the win |
15:28 | Brooke | :) |
15:28 | * Brooke | can now compile a list of gamers... |
15:28 | library_systems_guy | lolz |
15:30 | Oak | :) |
15:30 | slef | @wunder islamabad |
15:30 | huginn | slef: The current temperature in Islamabad, Pakistan is 36.0�C (8:00 PM PKT on June 16, 2011). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 41%. Dew Point: 21.0�C. Pressure: (Steady). |
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15:30 | slef | is that what you meant? |
15:31 | Oak | yes! :) |
15:31 | Brooke | bonjour hdl |
15:31 | hdl | hi Brooke |
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15:32 | Oak | after two attempts, i thought, oh well, never mind, it's hot, that's enough |
15:32 | miguel | Hello all, buenas tardes a todos |
15:32 | * Oak | open translate.google.com |
15:33 | Brooke | :) |
15:33 | Oak | good afternoon to you too miguel |
15:33 | hdl | congrats evergreen http://sfconservancy.org/news/[…]/evergreen-joins/ |
15:34 | miguel | Oak: good afternoon |
15:34 | Oak | :) |
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15:39 | francharb | that was fast |
15:39 | :) | |
15:40 | Oak | oh mr. robin is also here |
15:40 | good | |
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15:53 | * Brooke | is qa testing a mediterranean pizza. |
15:53 | druthb | mmm |
15:56 | Oak | why were we not invited? |
15:56 | Brooke | heh, if you get here, I shall certainly buy you a pizza. |
15:56 | Oak | :) |
15:56 | * druthb | grabs her purse. |
15:56 | druthb | Does that apply to me, too? |
15:57 | moodaepo | mediterranean_pizza++ |
15:57 | Brooke | I suppose, though you don't know precisely where here is :P |
15:57 | rhcl | it ain't kansas |
15:57 | Brooke | alas, it is not |
15:57 | * Agent_Dani | has bike, will travel. ;) |
15:58 | * druthb | gets out her Snark-o-Meter. It'll find ya. |
15:58 | Brooke | "Ooooh a sarcasm detector. Real useful." |
15:58 | druthb | lol |
15:59 | * druthb | shakes the meter. |
15:59 | Agent_Dani | You have a functional one? Mine never even last a day on the job site. |
15:59 | druthb | Brooke! your recursive snarking broke my meter. |
16:00 | Brooke | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAReq4WMmqI |
16:03 | @wunder 01235 | |
16:03 | huginn | Brooke: The current temperature in Pittsfield, Massachusetts is 25.0�C (11:54 AM EDT on June 16, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: 14.0�C. Pressure: 29.87 in 1011 hPa (Steady). |
16:04 | druthb | @wunder 20852 |
16:04 | huginn | druthb: The current temperature in Potomac Woods, Rockville, Maryland is 23.3�C (12:09 PM EDT on June 16, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 17.0�C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014.1 hPa (Falling). |
16:04 | Brooke | okay, seriously, that ain't right. |
16:04 | druthb | ? |
16:04 | Oak | something wrong with pizza? |
16:04 | Brooke | Maryland being cooler than Massachusetts? |
16:04 | you don't find an issue here? | |
16:05 | slef | Brooke: last year, I visited NY, Washington, Savannah and Miami Beach. Miami Beach was the coolest. |
16:05 | druthb | This time of year, the DC area being cooler than a steam bath is a blessing. Sha'n't quibble. |
16:05 | Brooke | true dat druthb |
16:05 | and that'd be ocean effect | |
16:05 | so at least there's a reason for it | |
16:06 | slef | I think DC was the warmest. |
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16:14 | Agent_Dani | @wunder 27599 |
16:14 | huginn | Agent_Dani: The current temperature in Falls of New Hope, Chapel Hill, North Carolina is 27.3�C (12:19 PM EDT on June 16, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: 19.0�C. Pressure: 29.85 in 1010.7 hPa (Steady). |
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16:24 | Oak | ooh hello cait, guten abend. |
16:24 | Kua kai anō koe? | |
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16:25 | wizzyrea | @wunder lawrence ks |
16:25 | huginn | wizzyrea: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 21.0�C (11:30 AM CDT on June 16, 2011). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 17.0�C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011.1 hPa (Rising). |
16:25 | cait | hi Oak :) |
16:25 | wizzyrea | rainy today |
16:25 | Oak | :) |
16:25 | wizzyrea | cait, so close, we got it down to 46 |
16:25 | cait | whoohoo |
16:27 | didn't expect that many - good result for afirst sign-off day :) | |
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16:39 | hdl | how was the signoff day ? |
16:39 | Oak | night |
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16:41 | cait | hdl: about 30 bugs |
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16:51 | library_systems_guy | what is meant by having the Supress index set up in Zebra |
16:52 | If i wanted to enable OpacSupression | |
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17:07 | sekjal | library_systems_guy: you have to have at least one biblio with a 942$n field set to "1" before you can enable the OpacSuppression sysperf |
17:07 | ~syspref | |
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17:16 | wizzyrea | hmm that's odd |
17:17 | it looks like when you do a patron search | |
17:17 | at least in my system | |
17:17 | it's doing some kind of alphabetical list, but it's not really alphabetizing... as if you click to the 2nd page | |
17:18 | people that should have been on the 1st page are listed there, newly alphabetized | |
17:18 | that's a terrible description, let me get an example | |
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17:27 | jwagner | wizzyrea, that's an old problem -- I remember seeing it a couple of years ago. There's at least one related bug report, Bug 5266 |
17:27 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5266 major, P5, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , Patron Search Produces Incorrectly Sorted and Missing Results |
17:27 | wizzyrea | ah thanks |
17:36 | sekjal | yeah, the paging of patron search results applies BEFORE the sorting, so each page is alphabetized, but they're not interfiled |
17:36 | limitation of MySQL | |
17:38 | I'm looking at a generic paging solution that could be applied to any query we need | |
17:44 | wizzyrea | aha |
17:44 | cool beans, thanks | |
17:47 | oleonard++ | |
17:47 | * wizzyrea | will try to sign off on bug 6501 today |
17:47 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6501 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Missing scroll bar when updating child |
17:47 | wizzyrea | but after lunch |
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18:08 | library_systems_guy | sekjal to hide opac items would it just be easier to use the OpacHiddenItems setting? |
18:08 | sekjal | library_systems_guy: I'm not sure that that system preference is working properly... |
18:08 | but ideally, yes, that's how you'd hide individual items, but not the whole title | |
18:10 | library_systems_guy | I think what we are trying to accomplish is hiding brief titles such as ILL's etc |
18:15 | sekjal | library_systems_guy: for that, I'd recommend creating (or using) a specific framework for such titles, and setting 942$n to default to 1, then turn on OpacSuppress |
18:15 | that'll hide the whole title, which sounds like what you're looking for | |
18:15 | wizzyrea | sekjal: that's effin brilliant |
18:15 | sekjal++ | |
18:16 | * wizzyrea | wonders if the nexpress fast add framework is set for suppress |
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18:24 | library_systems_guy | gotcha, thanks sekjal |
18:24 | sekjal++ | |
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19:05 | oleonard | Hi pianohacker, didn't see you come in. |
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19:12 | pianohacker | hey oleonard |
19:12 | wahanui | rumour has it oleonard is the master UI designer of koha or an awesome bug wrangler |
19:12 | pianohacker | how's it going? |
19:12 | oleonard | It's going pretty well. Are you in summer mode now? |
19:12 | slef | roflcopter? |
19:13 | @roulette | |
19:13 | huginn | slef: *click* |
19:13 | slef | wahanui: poisoned botsnack |
19:13 | wahanui | :) |
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19:15 | gmcharlt | wahanui will eat anything! |
19:15 | wahanui | gmcharlt: excuse me? |
19:15 | druthb | wahanui: botsnack cookie |
19:15 | wahanui | thanks druthb :) |
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19:20 | pianohacker | oleonard: Yeah, working and working. Enjoying the break from school, though |
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19:23 | rangi | morning |
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19:24 | slef | odd |
19:24 | oleonard | Hi rangi |
19:28 | rangi | this ash better piss off |
19:28 | or I wont be flying to ala next week | |
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19:32 | rangi | otoh the sky is a lovely pink |
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19:32 | rangi | hi atz_ |
19:32 | atz_ | greets |
19:34 | been implementing several koha LDAP to ActiveDirectory setups this week | |
19:37 | wasted most of a day before finding http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5094 | |
19:37 | huginn | 04Bug 5094: major, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED , auth_by_bind authentication can fail even if given a correct password and userid |
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19:47 | rhcl | I well remember the yellow sand in Korea. Sky would look hazy yellow and it left a thick film over everything. Probably had lead, plutonium, and melamine contamination. I should sue somebody. |
19:47 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asian_Dust | |
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21:04 | library_systems_guy | does anybody know if the lists are broken? |
21:04 | err...the ability to make lists | |
21:05 | rangi | wasnt last time i used them |
21:05 | what version library_systems_guy ? | |
21:05 | library_systems_guy | head |
21:05 | rangi | hmm ill try to get a chance to test later today (after my meetings) |
21:05 | library_systems_guy | thanks rangi |
21:06 | 3.05.00.002 to be exact btw | |
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21:29 | magnuse | sorry for being off topic, but i just gotta share this: http://www.nrk.no/hurtigruten/?lang=en |
21:29 | wizzyrea | preety |
21:29 | magnuse | it's a 5 day boat trip along the coast of northern norway, being broadcast live on norwegian television and the web |
21:29 | rangi | hehe |
21:30 | ITS GONNA CRASH | |
21:30 | TURN !!! | |
21:30 | * rangi | makes it more dramatic |
21:30 | magnuse | hehe |
21:31 | it just started so if you stay watching for the next 5 days you will see it all, including the place i live and the midnight sun and everything ;-) | |
21:31 | rangi | ohhh cool |
21:32 | im off to be debriefed | |
21:32 | but ill show the kids tonight | |
21:32 | thats for sure | |
21:32 | magnuse | cool! ;-) |
21:32 | cait | :) |
21:32 | magnuse | it should not get much darker than it is now |
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21:36 | magnuse | when i'm rich i will sponsor kohacon so we can have it on that boat (or, one of those boats, to be more precise ;-) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurtigruten |
21:38 | gmcharlt | KohaCruise FTW! |
21:38 | * cait | wants magnuse to be rich |
21:38 | cait | does not help much I guess... :( |
21:38 | magnuse | and nengard can follow along on land and meet us in the harbours ;-) |
21:38 | * wizzyrea | looks frantically around Norway for libraries to suggest koha to, so magnuse can be rich |
21:39 | magnuse | hehe |
21:39 | wizzyrea | 15 minutes til I see the kiddo! can't wait. |
21:39 | magnuse | run run run fall down kick in the face |
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21:44 | wizzyrea | hehe! |
21:44 | he does love rugby :P | |
21:46 | pianohacker | >_< It's almost like indexdata is intentionally trying to make its source code, documentation, error messages and website confusing |
21:46 | wizzyrea | they aren't? |
21:46 | pianohacker | "one letter variable names!" |
21:46 | "incomplete documentation" | |
21:47 | "numeric error codes!" | |
21:47 | WHEEE | |
21:52 | magnuse | there is room for improvement... |
21:53 | * magnuse | practices being diplomatic... |
21:54 | pianohacker | They also have no links to even a scm repo, so improvement might be somewhat difficult for an outsider |
21:54 | oh well, battle for another day | |
22:03 | library_systems_guy | I know this is off topic from what you guys are discussing but how hard do you thing it would be to integrate shibboleth into Koha...rangi seemed to thing it would be pretty easy |
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22:33 | talljoy | i've got a zebra question, if anyone is still around..... |
22:33 | rangi | kinda |
22:33 | talljoy | In the install I ran the update-rc.d koha-zebra-daemon defaults command and |
22:33 | update-rc.d: using dependency based boot sequencing | |
22:33 | insserv: warning: script 'K01koha-zebra-daemon' missing LSB tags and overrides | |
22:33 | insserv: warning: script 'koha-zebra-daemon' missing LSB tags and overrides | |
22:34 | rangi | yep, that should be ok |
22:34 | talljoy | got that as a 'warning'. and i can only start the zebra server manually |
22:34 | rangi | ahhh interesting |
22:34 | on debian? | |
22:34 | talljoy | i run zebrasrv -f /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml to run manually |
22:34 | yes debian | |
22:35 | rangi | what user do you run that as? |
22:35 | talljoy | root |
22:35 | rangi | ah ha! |
22:35 | so its a permissions thing | |
22:35 | talljoy | i thought root ruled them all? |
22:35 | rangi | if you look at the /etc/init.d/koha-zebra-daemon script |
22:36 | talljoy | yes |
22:36 | rangi | you will see its running as not root (probably as koha) |
22:36 | should be a USER= bit | |
22:36 | talljoy | yes |
22:36 | USER=koha | |
22:36 | can I change it to root? | |
22:36 | rangi | so, what user do you run the rebuild_zebra.pl as ? |
22:36 | talljoy | root |
22:36 | rangi | yeah theres the problem |
22:36 | since root built the indexes | |
22:36 | talljoy | but i love being root |
22:36 | rangi | koha cant see them |
22:36 | yeah ... break that habit ;-) | |
22:37 | talljoy | i know |
22:37 | rangi | you will have to chown the dirs, to koha |
22:37 | then run rebuild_zebra.pl as koha | |
22:37 | eg | |
22:37 | sudo -u koha blah blah | |
22:37 | and then the init.d script will have permissions to run | |
22:38 | talljoy | ok. i have to chown the koha-3.4.1 directory to koha |
22:38 | any others? | |
22:38 | rangi | hmm not that one :) |
22:38 | talljoy | ok. :-) |
22:38 | rangi | try /var/run/koha i think |
22:38 | and /var/lock/koha | |
22:38 | or /var/lib ? | |
22:39 | talljoy | those both show as directories |
22:39 | rangi | its in the koha-zebra-daemon thing |
22:40 | cool, chown those and see if that works | |
22:48 | * rangi | crosses his fingers |
22:51 | talljoy | i did the chown |
22:51 | and now i get permission denied to rebuild_zebra | |
22:52 | rootamigostest2:~# sudo -u koha perl koha-3.4.1/misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -z -b -a -v | |
22:52 | rangi | ah yeah ull need to find whatever dir it needs changed, and chown that too |
22:53 | (and make sure your cronjob isnt running as root and clobbering the permissions again ;-)) | |
22:53 | talljoy | i'm feeling a wipe and reinstall coming on! |
22:53 | rangi | naw |
22:53 | talljoy | which is not a bad thing |
22:53 | rangi | its only one more dir ;) |
22:53 | talljoy | but I feel I've made a hash of this acting as root |
22:53 | * talljoy | must need her ego stroked as root. |
22:54 | rangi | heh |
22:54 | talljoy | i know the cronjob is running as root |
22:56 | in my defense...the install instructions say run as system user or directly as root. :-) | |
22:56 | rangi | we should fix that ;) |
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22:56 | talljoy | perhaps! heh now I don't know what directories to chown to koha |
22:57 | other than perhaps "all of the above" | |
22:57 | :-D | |
22:57 | rangi | its not telling you with the rebuild? |
22:57 | talljoy | Can't open perl script "koha-3.4.1/misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl": Permission denied |
22:57 | rangi | ohhh |
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22:58 | rangi | yeah try chown that :) |
22:58 | eythian | or chmod |
23:01 | talljoy | still denied. |
23:02 | rangi | who owns the koha-3.4.1 dir? |
23:02 | talljoy | root |
23:02 | rangi | ahh, chown -R koha koha-3.4.1 |
23:02 | and give that a whirl | |
23:03 | talljoy | Can't open perl script "koha-3.4.1/misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl": Permission denied |
23:03 | stubborn thing | |
23:03 | rangi | ls -l koha-3.4.1/misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl |
23:04 | talljoy | -rwxrwxr-x 1 koha root 36375 May 23 21:59 koha-3.4.1/misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl |
23:04 | magnuse | chown -R koha:koha koha-3.4.1 ? |
23:05 | talljoy | -rwxrwxr-x 1 koha koha 36375 May 23 21:59 koha-3.4.1/misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl |
23:05 | However....Can't open perl script "koha-3.4.1/misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl": Permission denied | |
23:06 | rangi | can you do a pwd ? |
23:06 | * rangi | fears you are in /root |
23:06 | talljoy | "/root" |
23:06 | LOL | |
23:06 | rangi | bingo |
23:06 | hokay | |
23:06 | * talljoy | feels she already mentioned she loves root |
23:07 | rangi | thats kinda messy |
23:07 | hmm | |
23:07 | you could | |
23:07 | mv koha-3.4.1 /home/koha/ | |
23:08 | but that will break your apache config | |
23:08 | talljoy | kohaamigostest2:~$ ls |
23:08 | koha-3.4.1 | |
23:08 | is there now. I can reset up apache | |
23:08 | eythian | talljoy: /root shouldn't be readable by anyone except root, so sudo'ing to koha makes it break. |
23:08 | rangi | and your koha-conf.xml and koha-zebra-daemon .. those should be it |
23:09 | just check your rebuild works now :) | |
23:09 | talljoy | Can't locate C4/Context.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.10.1 /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.1 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.10 /usr/share/perl/5.10 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at koha-3.4.1/misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl line 6. |
23:09 | BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at koha-3.4.1/misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl line 6. | |
23:09 | LOL....this I've seen before! | |
23:09 | time to export | |
23:11 | the rebuild ran this time | |
23:11 | rangi | yay |
23:11 | talljoy | I've got some work to do tomorrow. For now, I'm going to kick back and have a beer. |
23:11 | rangi++ | |
23:11 | rangi | enjoy the beer ;) |
23:12 | talljoy | thanks for the help!!! (you too eythian and magnuse) |
23:12 | i've earned it today!! | |
23:12 | talljoy is now known as talljoy_away | |
23:13 | magnuse | hehe, such fun ;-) |
23:17 | rangi or eythian: i created my first package with build-git-snapshot and installed with sudo dpkg -i koha-common_3.4-1~git+20110522163502.cdf32da0_all.deb; sudo apt-get -f install. now i created an updated version of the package, do i upgrade with the same commands, or is there some other mojo? | |
23:17 | rangi | thats it |
23:18 | you shouldnt ned the -f install though | |
23:18 | just the dpkg -i | |
23:18 | * eythian | deletes what he typed |
23:18 | rangi | next step would be to build your own repo |
23:18 | eythian | what rangi said |
23:18 | rangi | and put the package in there |
23:18 | then just apt-get update; apt-get upgrade | |
23:18 | magnuse | yeah, the thought has passed my mind, but i'll try to get the packages working first... |
23:18 | rangi | (when you get a few sites running that becomes very very useful) |
23:19 | *nod* | |
23:19 | magnuse | but just dpkg -i to upgrade, no apt-get? |
23:19 | rangi | yep |
23:19 | magnuse | cool, thanks! |
23:19 | rangi | unless it grizzles about unmet dependencies |
23:20 | (unlikely) | |
23:20 | magnuse | shouldn't do that, i think |
23:21 | hm, it does complain about a missing package called xmlstarlet | |
23:22 | rangi | ah yeah, ull want that :) |
23:29 | magnuse | hm, that helped, but i'm running into trouble because i have a half-removed instance left over from my koha-remove trouble. i get: |
23:29 | sudo koha-remove demo | |
23:29 | Removing Koha instance demo | |
23:29 | ERROR 1396 (HY000) at line 1: Operation DROP USER failed for 'koha_demo'@'%' | |
23:30 | eythian | it's a pain when it fails, because it aborts the whole process. I need to make it more robust. |
23:31 | Usually when that happens I remove it by hand. | |
23:31 | magnuse | login to mysql as root and remove the user and database? |
23:31 | eythian | yeah |
23:32 | and /etc/koha/sites/demo, /etc/apache2/sites-*/demo, /var/lib/koha/demo | |
23:33 | and deluser koha-demo | |
23:33 | I should make a 'force remove' option that just busts through and does what it can. | |
23:34 | Patches welcome ;) | |
23:38 | rangi | hmm someone gonna do a write up for patch day? |
23:38 | 33 changed status eh? | |
23:38 | eythian | where does one define routing lists? Are they attached to a subscription? |
23:38 | rangi | yes |
23:42 | magnuse | rangi: i thought i'd do a summary and suggest another day for july 8th, when biblibre are having their first sign off etc half day (unless they want to have the day to themselves, of course) |
23:43 | havn't gotten the time for it yet, but will do it tomorrow | |
23:46 | thanks for your help rangi & eythian - the upgrade worked, but sadly not my attempt to fix my css problem... better start diggin around again | |
23:46 | eythian | it's a start, anyway :) |
23:46 | magnuse | yup |
23:48 | rangi | cool thanks magnuse |
23:48 | magnuse | and the whole package malarky will be great once i figure out that little css niggle... you guys (and liw) rock! |
23:50 | ok, it's 2am and the sun is shining - time to go to bed! | |
23:50 | see ya! | |
23:50 | rangi | sleep well |
23:50 | magnuse | will try... |
23:51 | eythian | bye |
23:55 | magnuse is now known as magnus_away |
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