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00:01 | * jcamins_away | peeks in to #koha |
00:05 | pianohacker | hola, jcamins |
00:05 | * jcamins_away | waves feebly |
00:06 | rangi | heya jwagner_away |
00:07 | gah | |
00:07 | heya jcamins_away | |
00:07 | jcamins_away | Heh. I guess there are too many j{something}_away's, huh? ;) |
00:07 | rangi | yep |
00:07 | tab completion fail | |
00:08 | hdl left #koha | |
00:08 | pianohacker | jcamins_away_actuallyhere_butnotreallywentoutfordinner_thenloggedinwithmyphonesobackagain |
00:08 | jcamins_away | Basicallyl. |
00:09 | Except for dinner. | |
00:11 | pianohacker | dinner sounds really good |
00:11 | why are you waving feebly, btw? sick? | |
00:12 | jcamins_away | Training this week. |
00:12 | Again. | |
00:13 | pianohacker | ouch. teaching is work |
00:13 | who are you training? | |
00:13 | jcamins_away | New Koha library. |
00:13 | Thankfully here in the city. | |
00:15 | pianohacker | so convenient at least |
00:16 | jcamins_away | Yes. |
00:16 | But tiring. | |
00:16 | I just have to write a few reports tonight. | |
00:16 | If I can think coherently. | |
00:17 | pianohacker | reports-- |
00:20 | jcamins_away | Meh. Generally they're fine. |
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00:25 | pianohacker | bye, all |
00:25 | pianohacker left #koha | |
00:26 | oleonard | rangi: I'm just catching up on the git-bz lesson |
00:26 | rangi | sweet |
00:26 | hopefully the log makes sense? | |
00:26 | oleonard | I'm getting "git: 'bz' is not a git-command. |
00:27 | Did the Python version turn out to be a red herring or do I need to be higher than 2.5.2? | |
00:27 | rangi | i think a red herring |
00:28 | how about git-bz ? | |
00:29 | oleonard | git-bz: command not found |
00:30 | rangi | you did the symlink bit? |
00:30 | oleonard | Yes |
00:30 | rangi | what does |
00:30 | wahanui | rumour has it does is calculate the discount on this price or the tax is removed before to calculte the discount on the price before taxes |
00:30 | rangi | ls -l /usr/sbin/git-bz |
00:30 | look like? | |
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00:31 | oleonard | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 28 2011-05-24 20:17 /usr/sbin/git-bz -> /home/oleonard/git-bz/git-bz |
00:31 | rangi | i wonder if that isnt in your path |
00:31 | echo $PATH | |
00:32 | oleonard | Ah: usr/sbin is not listed |
00:32 | rangi | if you run |
00:32 | is /usr/local/sbin ? | |
00:32 | eythian | sbin is not usually in your path |
00:32 | put in in /usr/(local/)bin | |
00:33 | oleonard | Thanks guys, that got it working |
00:34 | Does it work with chrome? Seems to be offering it as an option | |
00:34 | So it does | |
00:34 | Awesome | |
00:34 | rangi | sweet |
00:35 | oleonard | rangi++ |
00:35 | jcamins_away | logs? |
00:35 | wahanui | logs are at http://stats.workbuffer.org/irclog/koha/ |
00:35 | jcamins_away | Thanks, wahanui. |
00:35 | wahanui | jcamins_away: de nada |
00:35 | oleonard | eythian++ |
00:35 | * oleonard | has to go read books to some bedtime kids now |
00:35 | oleonard is now known as owen-away | |
00:49 | jcamins_away | Does anyone have time for some quick report help? |
00:58 | Never mind. I just discovered biblio.datecreated. | |
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01:43 | eythian | http://aggiesprite.files.wordp[…]05/rednekwine.jpg <-- mtj |
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02:20 | glernil | hello #koha |
02:30 | rangi | hey glernil |
02:30 | did you ever get your cronjob running? | |
02:39 | glernil | nope not yet |
02:39 | rangi | take a look in misc/cronjobs |
02:39 | there is a crontab.example file | |
02:40 | glernil | got to look on that.. but what i did was to reinstall the system and start all over again since it is easy to do cause i'm using virtualbox... |
02:41 | rangi | cool |
02:41 | i use the koha-common debian package, cos it does the cron stuff for me | |
02:42 | glernil | there's another issue in my installation i want to clarify... when i rebuilt the index the following errors occurred>>> |
02:42 | Unknown register type: 0 | |
02:42 | Unknown register type: n | |
02:42 | Unknown register type: y | |
02:42 | Unknown register type: d | |
02:42 | rangi | never seen those before |
02:42 | glernil | any idea? |
02:42 | rangi | none at all |
02:43 | glernil | by the way.. i'm using ubuntu as my OS |
02:59 | is it possible to use the common debian package in Ubuntu? | |
02:59 | rangi | yes |
02:59 | but it does take a bit of knowing what you are doing | |
03:00 | you have to combine this | |
03:00 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]on_Debian_Squeeze | |
03:00 | with | |
03:00 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ing_Koha_packages | |
03:01 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ueeze#Quick_Start | |
03:01 | making sure you install koha-common not just koha | |
03:03 | glernil | ok.. i think i have to try that.. |
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03:13 | Brooke | kia ora! |
03:13 | Space_Librarian | tena koe! :D |
03:14 | rangi | hi Brooke |
03:15 | * Brooke | salutes rangi. |
03:33 | Brooke | joy on earlier? she asked, hopefullly. |
04:11 | rangi | not that i saw |
04:11 | * Brooke | crosses her fingers. |
04:11 | Brooke | DFW got hammered. |
04:12 | rangi | schuster is down there too |
04:12 | Brooke | a yep |
04:55 | Oak joined #koha | |
04:55 | Brooke | 0/ |
04:56 | Oak | \o/ Brooke !!! |
04:56 | how are you today? | |
04:56 | Brooke | good enough for gummint woik |
04:56 | you? | |
04:56 | Oak | good |
04:57 | * Oak | googles 'gummint woik' |
04:57 | Brooke | won't find it |
04:57 | it's a localised expression that's been mangled for spelling | |
04:58 | good enough for government work is like passable. | |
04:59 | Oak | ah |
04:59 | * Oak | is enlightened |
05:00 | Brooke | would that that were enough for nibbana |
05:00 | * Oak | googles 'nibbana' |
05:01 | Oak | hmm |
05:02 | Space_Librarian | catch'ya'll later! |
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05:03 | Oak | catch'ya'll later! and poof! sure was a space librarian... |
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05:15 | Brooke | 0/ |
05:15 | cait | hi Brooke |
05:15 | morning #koha | |
05:16 | Brooke | guten tag |
05:19 | Oak | ich liebe dich cait for being here on time. good. |
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05:20 | cait | on time? |
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05:20 | cait | and hi Oak ) |
05:20 | Oak | :) hi |
05:21 | eythian | hiya |
05:22 | cait | hi eythian :) |
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05:40 | Brooke | 0/ |
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05:48 | Brooke | tossing and turning time! |
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06:04 | glernil | hello |
06:14 | anyone here familiar in the installation procedure for debian squeeze? | |
06:14 | cait | hi glernil |
06:15 | glernil | i downloaded and installed the package koha-common everything went fine |
06:15 | yet i'm stucked in the koha-sites.conf | |
06:16 | do i have to create that file? even if the installation won't be live online? | |
06:16 | cait | I am sorry, I have no experience with the packages |
06:16 | glernil | oops.. ok |
06:16 | cait | eythian? |
06:16 | wahanui | i think eythian is in NZ. ;) or a good influence |
06:17 | eythian | cait: yes? |
06:18 | alex_a | good morning ! |
06:18 | glernil | i tried to skip that part and go directly in issuing the command koha-create.. but with no luck... |
06:19 | eythian | oh |
06:19 | glernil: yes, you do need to create it | |
06:19 | cait | I summoned you |
06:19 | hi alex_a | |
06:20 | eythian | glernil: you don't have to put a whole lot in there really, but I think it complains if it's not there. |
06:20 | glernil | i got an error "awk: cannot open /etc/mysql/koha-common.cnf" |
06:20 | eythian | you probably need to install mysql-server then |
06:20 | glernil | i skipped that part since i can't understand what should be included there |
06:20 | oops.. i'll check my mysql first | |
06:21 | eythian | you can't skip having a database I'm afraid :) |
06:21 | oh, or a sites configuration | |
06:21 | glernil | wat i mean the .conf part |
06:21 | aw... ok.. ;) | |
06:21 | eythian | I think you can leave the bulk of the fields blank. |
06:21 | glernil | got to try that... |
06:22 | eythian | you'll want to have an intrasuffix though, so when you set up DNS on your network the server knows what you're asking for. |
06:24 | glernil | sorry.. i'm a noob.. so what should i put there? |
06:25 | eythian | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ueeze#Quick_Start <-- it gives you an example here. |
06:25 | I'd leave the DOMAIN blank if it's not going on the internet | |
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06:30 | francharb | hello all |
06:31 | rangi | hi francharb |
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06:33 | clrh | hi |
06:33 | wahanui | hi, clrh |
06:33 | rangi | hi clrh |
06:35 | cait | hi francharb and clrh |
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07:03 | matts_away is now known as matts | |
07:03 | rangi | hi julian and hdl and matts |
07:03 | julian | hello rangi |
07:04 | matts | hello #koha ! |
07:06 | hdl | hi rangi |
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07:20 | kf | hi #koha |
07:21 | rangi | wb kf |
07:22 | kf | thx rangi :) |
07:24 | rangi | hi Guillaume, sophie_m and paul_p |
07:25 | paul_p: not in the office today? | |
07:25 | sophie_m | hi rangi, hi #koha |
07:25 | paul_p | hi everybody. |
07:25 | rangi, nope, working from home | |
07:25 | Guillaume | Hi Rangi and everybody |
07:26 | rangi | ahh |
07:29 | magnus_away is now known as magnuse | |
07:31 | glernil | eythian: i created the .conf file and inserted basic site conf in ref. to the link you gave. But when i created a koha instance there is a syntax error |
07:32 | syntax error line 69 of /etc/koha/apache-shared.conf | |
07:32 | eythian | is there more to it than that? |
07:33 | glernil | invalid command 'RewriteEngine', perhaps misspelled or defined by a module not included in the server configuration |
07:33 | rangi | its probably you havent done a2enmod rewrite |
07:33 | (or whatever the right command is) | |
07:33 | eythian | you didn't do 'sudo a2enmod rewrite' |
07:33 | yeah, that | |
07:33 | wahanui | yeah, that is probably cool - a way to enhance the OPAC without bloating Koha... |
07:34 | glernil | that's not on the list in the wiki.. i'll try |
07:35 | magnuse | kia ora, #koha |
07:36 | rangi | heya magnuse |
07:36 | wahanui | well, magnuse is afraid that we added another 10000 bugs while he was eating pizza. |
07:36 | glernil | got it! |
07:36 | magnuse | i built my first .deb with build-git-snapshot, what's the best way to install it? apt-get? dpkg? others? |
07:37 | rangi | dpkg -i |
07:37 | easiest way | |
07:37 | eythian | glernil: sweet |
07:37 | rangi | and then apt-get -f install if you need to pull in dependencies |
07:37 | magnuse | rangi: thanks! and that will install all the dependencies too? |
07:37 | kf | hi magnuse :) |
07:37 | magnuse++ | |
07:37 | magnuse | ah ha |
07:37 | kf | how is alta? |
07:37 | magnuse | hi kf |
07:38 | glernil | yet there's no koha interface when i check it in the browser |
07:38 | magnuse | alta is good - getting to talk to new people about koha |
07:38 | glernil | eythian: but there's no koha interface when i check it in the browser.. maybe its in the apache config |
07:39 | eythian | glernil: what is there when you check it in the browser? |
07:39 | and do you have your DNS set up properly? | |
07:39 | glernil | eythian: the default page.. It works! |
07:39 | eythian | oh |
07:39 | sudo a2dissite default | |
07:40 | glernil | is it secure to do it that way? |
07:40 | eythian | (or maybe 000-default) |
07:40 | what do you mean? | |
07:40 | glernil | a read something about that in the apache docu... but i'll try to do it first |
07:43 | eythian: it worked. in the localhost:80 perhaps.. but when i check localhost:8080 is says "unable to load page" | |
07:47 | eythian | it doesn't put it on 8080, it puts them both on :80, but with different server names, so you need your DNS or hosts set up so you can access it using the correct names. |
07:48 | glernil | what if i will not be deploying it in production yet? can i set it to 8080? |
07:50 | eythian | you can, you'll need to add Listen 8080 to your ports.conf (I think it is in apache) and change the config in the intranet section of the site to be :8080 |
08:00 | magnuse | @wunder alf |
08:00 | huginn` | magnuse: The current temperature in Alta Lufthavn, Norway is 10.0�C (9:50 AM CEST on May 25, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 5.0�C. Pressure: 29.24 in 990 hPa (Steady). |
08:01 | kf | @wunder Konstanz |
08:01 | huginn` | kf: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 18.0�C (10:00 AM CEST on May 25, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 29%. Dew Point: 4.0�C. Pressure: 30.31 in 1026 hPa (Falling). |
08:07 | rangi | @wunder wellington nz |
08:07 | huginn` | rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 16.0�C (8:00 PM NZST on May 25, 2011). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 13.0�C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Falling). |
08:09 | magnuse | i loose... |
08:10 | rangi | oh newsletter is out |
08:10 | glernil | eythian: it worked! finally using 8080 as the intranet port |
08:11 | eythian++ | |
08:11 | eythian | glernil: awesome :) |
08:11 | magnuse | http://www.flickr.com/photos/e[…]11/in/photostream ;-) |
08:15 | glernil | eythian: got to test this tomorrow. you're such a great help specially in situation (here in the Philippines) where help is nowhere but in this channel. ;) |
08:16 | eythian | glernil: cool :) glad to help. |
08:17 | glernil | by the way.. what's the default username and password...? |
08:18 | magnuse | bbl |
08:19 | magnuse is now known as magnus_away | |
08:23 | eythian | glernil: to log in the first time, use the database credentials, which are near the bottom of the koha-conf.xml that was created |
08:23 | (in /etc/koha/sites/whatever/ | |
08:23 | ) | |
08:23 | then use that to create a staff account. | |
08:25 | glernil | wonderful... got it |
08:26 | eythian | awesome |
08:30 | two new green lights in my newborn Koha monitoring nagios configuration. That means it's time to go home. | |
08:31 | rangi | yay |
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08:38 | glernil | GTG! |
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08:40 | mib_sun | hi koha |
08:42 | is there any option to list the details of books in ISBD view? I have to take the print out of all the books in ISBD view. | |
09:01 | hello.. is anyone there to help me.. | |
09:03 | kf | have you tried editing the ibsdview? |
09:03 | I am not sure if you can make it show the contents of 952 and when they will probably be not nicely formatted | |
09:04 | what do you need to do? | |
09:05 | mib_sun | I have to take the print out of list of books in ISBD view. |
09:05 | now only one book can view in ISBD view | |
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09:06 | kf | ok |
09:07 | I don't think what you want to do is possible right now | |
09:09 | mib_sun | :( |
09:10 | ok | |
09:10 | kf | you could try and experiment with the data formats you can export from koha |
09:12 | mib_sun | thanks <kf>. i will try |
09:15 | rangi | hey SpaceLibrarian_home |
09:15 | SpaceLibrarian_home | evening rangi |
09:16 | kf | hi SpaceLibrarian_home |
09:16 | SpaceLibrarian_home | hey kf :) |
09:21 | mib_sun | <kf>: one more doubt . how to take the print out of list of books and its details? only using 'Reports'? |
09:23 | is there any other option to take the print out?? | |
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09:27 | kf | you could make a report |
09:27 | there are also print options for single lists | |
09:28 | and you can use the card and lists functions to get different lists | |
09:28 | there are some possibilities, butnot from isbd | |
09:31 | mib_sun | for generating a report the person must have to know about the table fields. so it is very difficult for a librarian to generate the report |
09:33 | what you mean by this card and lists functions?? | |
09:35 | When I am creating a list only Title,Author, and Date Added is displaying. How can I display more details in alist?? | |
09:37 | kf | in 3.4 there is more information |
09:37 | have you tried the opac cart? | |
09:37 | there are different views too | |
09:43 | mib_sun | I have tried the cart too. but in this also price and other details is not coming. Shall I customize the fields displayed in the cart?? |
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09:48 | SpaceLibrarian_home | hey druthb |
09:49 | rangi | heya druthb |
09:52 | kf | hi druthb :) |
09:52 | druthb | hi Shelley and Chris and Kaitlin. *hugs all round* |
09:54 | SpaceLibrarian_home | :) |
09:54 | * kf | feels ignored |
09:54 | kf | ;) |
09:55 | * SpaceLibrarian_home | gives kf a cookie |
09:55 | kf | yay! |
09:55 | thx SpaceLibrarian_home :) | |
09:55 | SpaceLibrarian_home | my pleasure. :) |
09:56 | * druthb | apparrently cannot type today, can she Katrin? |
09:57 | kf | I got a cookie for you typo :) |
09:57 | * kf | shares with druthb |
10:00 | * SpaceLibrarian_home | hands out cookies |
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10:06 | rangi | im not liking your chances SpaceLibrarian_home |
10:06 | SpaceLibrarian_home | my chances? For Origin? |
10:07 | rangi | yep |
10:07 | i usually cheer for the blues, cos they have the most maori in the team | |
10:07 | but its a thankless task | |
10:08 | SpaceLibrarian_home | I will be genuinely amazed and astounded if the Blues win |
10:08 | rangi | yeah |
10:08 | SpaceLibrarian_home | I've had five years to get used to the feeling of losing |
10:08 | At least my football team wins consistently. It all balances out in the end. :) | |
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10:18 | matts is now known as matts_away | |
10:18 | * kf | has no idea what rangi and SpaceLibrarian_home are talking about |
10:18 | nibbles some more on her cookie | |
10:19 | SpaceLibrarian_home | It's a mad game of rugby league, played by two states in Australia |
10:19 | magnuse | ah, sports... |
10:20 | cool message from finland on the devel-list! | |
10:20 | SpaceLibrarian_home | kf: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R[…]e_State_of_Origin |
10:23 | kf | thx :) |
10:26 | huginn` | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6406] double space in query result in no result <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6406> |
10:30 | magnuse | the finns have the coolest librarians - we better help them make a good decision :-) |
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10:47 | slef | yengh |
10:51 | kf | yengh? |
10:51 | hi slef :) | |
10:57 | rangi | shaugh |
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11:04 | magnuse | kia ora Irma |
11:06 | Irma | Hi magnuse! I should have answered your email by now ... |
11:06 | Sorry, really busy | |
11:06 | magnuse | Irma: no worries! it was just a shot in the dark... :-) |
11:07 | Irma | I Well there are some new library building but they are scattered in the various States and Territories. |
11:07 | rangi | magnuse: oh yeah |
11:07 | i had one | |
11:07 | Irma | Where is the delegation going ... only Sydney? Other cities? |
11:07 | hi rangi ... one in NZ? | |
11:08 | Or are you thinking of the new City of Sydney building in Surry Hills? | |
11:08 | We held a Kete workshop there last year | |
11:08 | magnuse | Irma: they havn't decided yet, they wanted tips before they plan where to go |
11:08 | rangi | http://www.pukeariki.com/VisitUs/VisitUs.aspx |
11:10 | Irma | My brother is an architect (and lives in Sydney) I will ask him and put the question to the members of the few ALIA e-lists I subscribe to |
11:10 | magnuse | way cool! |
11:10 | sweet as! | |
11:12 | hm, mysql is not installed as a dependency of koha-common? | |
11:12 | rangi | the server? nope |
11:12 | cos your db server might be a different server | |
11:12 | magnuse | yeah, i guess that is a good point ;-) |
11:13 | and we might support more then on db in the future... | |
11:14 | rangi | yes that is still a goal |
11:15 | Irma | Puke Ariki library information The Library has a relationship with Shell who have provided much of the information about the oil business. Many of the children have parents who work out on the rig. |
11:15 | interesting merge of museum and library | |
11:16 | magnuse: I will get back with a few suggestions before toooo long :-) | |
11:17 | rangi | its a good building too, big exhibition space |
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11:18 | Irma | g'night #koha friends! |
11:18 | magnuse | g'night Irma |
11:18 | rangi: i have passed on the link to puke ariki | |
11:18 | rangi | cool |
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11:21 | magnuse | it would be cool to get them to go to nz - could maybe get them to look at koha in its native habitat at the same time... :-) |
11:21 | rangi | :) |
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11:57 | SpaceLibrarian_home | good evening #koha - I'll see you in a few. :) |
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12:08 | NurAhammad | Hi everybody good afternoon |
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13:06 | * druthb | peeks in for a moment. |
13:07 | oleonard | Hi druthb. Just for a moment? |
13:08 | druthb | yep. Ears-deep in some really wild n wooly data from a custom catalog app. Needed to get eyes off it for a moment, to solve a puzzle. |
13:10 | oleonard | woolly_data-- |
13:10 | * oleonard | threatens to instruct wahanui that druthb is a data-tamer and -shaver |
13:10 | druthb | If this works out like I'm hoping, it's gonna be really nice. |
13:11 | when my father was teaching me woodworking, he said, "if you're going to get the prettiest, most-figured grains, and the most beautiful results, you have to be ready to handle some wild wood." (which, natch, gave me my love for wandering in the woods to find downed wild wood--as opposed to lumberyards.) | |
13:11 | this is actually much the same. | |
13:15 | * oleonard | gets git-bz set up on his work machine |
13:15 | oleonard | git-bz++ |
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13:21 | kmkale | Namaskar #koha |
13:24 | druthb | Namaste, kmkale. :) |
13:24 | kmkale | Namaste druthb :) |
13:46 | oleonard | paul_p around? I can't reproduce bug 6406 |
13:46 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6406 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED , double space in query result in no result |
13:47 | paul_p | oleonard, yes, i'm here |
13:48 | do you mean that when you do a query with 2 words and 2 spaces between them, you get a result ? | |
13:48 | danmc | druthb: what part of the world do you live in (I was reading your wandering looking for wood comment) |
13:48 | oleonard | paul_p: Yes. Same result as with only one space. |
13:49 | paul_p: I wonder if it could be a difference in zebra configurations? | |
13:49 | paul_p | wow. Not for me :( (although tested only on biblibre/master. There may be a little difference. Or it's marc21/unimarc or some other parameter...) |
13:49 | * oleonard | hasn't touched his |
13:50 | druthb | danmc: I live in suburban Washington, DC, now, but used to live in east Texas. |
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13:57 | library_systems_guy | morning #Koha |
13:58 | oleonard | Hi library_systems_guy |
13:59 | library_systems_guy | oleonard, you commit a lot of stuff, is there anyway to check and see if my commit wen't through? I think email isn't working on the server i sent it from |
13:59 | oleonard | Do you mean check to see if a patch which you submitted went through? |
13:59 | library_systems_guy | yes |
13:59 | oleonard | If a patch goes through it shows up on the patches mailing list |
14:00 | library_systems_guy | dang... |
14:00 | oleonard | http://lists.koha-community.or[…]ail/koha-patches/ |
14:01 | library_systems_guy | yeah definitly not |
14:01 | is there another way to submit a patch other than email? | |
14:02 | oleonard | You could email it to the patches list as an attachment. And of course the patch should be attached to the bug report too |
14:02 | library_systems_guy | gotcha |
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14:08 | reiveune | hello |
14:09 | library_systems_guy | Hi reiveune |
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14:36 | NCARMichael | hey gang |
14:37 | library_systems_guy | hey NCARMichael |
14:39 | NCARMichael | question...i'm trying to get the 866a field(s) to show up as a column in a report. |
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14:40 | NCARMichael | is there a list somewhere of all the code words? |
14:41 | (biblio.title, biblio.biblionumber, etc) | |
14:41 | library_systems_guy | oh like the database schema |
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14:41 | NCARMichael | i'm guessing the one i'm looking for would likely be something like biblio.holdings |
14:42 | library_systems_guy | somebody else may be able to give you a better answer but you should be able to do a desc on the biblio table if you have access to your mysql database |
14:43 | francharb | hey all |
14:43 | how is it doing today | |
14:43 | library_systems_guy | hey francharb |
14:43 | francharb | ? |
14:43 | hey library_systems_guy | |
14:44 | library_systems_guy | NCARMichael, is looking for a more satisfactory answer than what i can provide |
14:44 | lol | |
14:44 | francharb | i really like your nickname |
14:44 | ;) | |
14:44 | library_systems_guy | thanks :) |
14:45 | francharb | is there anyone who know what on circulation.pl "material" column is used for? |
14:45 | wooo, sorry for the broken english | |
14:46 | is it meant to be mapped with items.material? | |
14:46 | there is a total at the end of the column? what for? | |
14:46 | oleonard | francharb: Where do you see "material" ? |
14:47 | francharb | when you check out, oleonard |
14:47 | there are informations about what you check out, right | |
14:47 | ? | |
14:47 | due date | |
14:47 | title | |
14:47 | item type | |
14:47 | brnach | |
14:47 | checked out on | |
14:47 | charge | |
14:48 | AND | |
14:48 | material | |
14:48 | see? | |
14:48 | oleonard | The columns I have in 3.4.x: due date, title, item type, checked out on, call no., charge, price |
14:48 | kf | no |
14:48 | same here as owen | |
14:48 | francharb | OMG |
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14:48 | kf | hehe |
14:49 | which version are you looking at francharb? | |
14:49 | francharb | kf: it's 3.06.00.029 but it's on biblibre branch |
14:49 | kf | 2 reasons why we might not see it :( |
14:50 | francharb | so i dont know if everything is on the community branch... |
14:50 | :/ | |
14:50 | kf | I would imagine it could be a column for ... "beilagen"... like a cd goes with that book |
14:50 | francharb | kf: but i thought it was from the community branch |
14:50 | kf | can you look at the source code? |
14:50 | francharb | kf: i think to |
14:50 | too | |
14:50 | kf: i'm using it that way | |
14:51 | but sophie_m asked me why there is a total row for this column | |
14:51 | and i dont know... | |
14:51 | ;) | |
14:51 | kf | hm |
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14:51 | kf | the only lines with total we have is prive and charge |
14:51 | perhaps something related to an rfid development? | |
14:52 | guessing wildly | |
14:52 | francharb | héhé |
14:52 | hopefully | |
14:52 | but i guess not | |
14:52 | ;) | |
14:53 | we are working to get our branch integrated in the community branch. hope it will be done soon!! | |
14:53 | thanks all | |
14:54 | magnuse | francharb: we hope so too ;-) |
14:54 | francharb | :) |
14:56 | kf | yep |
14:56 | tryting to sign-off on the acq things | |
14:56 | trying | |
14:57 | francharb: a counter for the number of cd's you should have lying around on the desk after all is checked in? :) | |
14:59 | huginn` | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6357] Items (un)availability not displayed correctly (OPAC) <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6357> |
15:00 | hdl | NCARMichael: biblio.holdings ??? are you looking for items ? |
15:01 | kf | hdl? |
15:01 | wahanui | hdl is, like, sure that Croswalking records in zebra is also ram demanding |
15:03 | hdl | kf: in fact we reused the replacement price to put material information ... And the total is still there. |
15:05 | kf | ah, riddle solved then |
15:05 | my questionmark was referring to your biblio.holdings comment | |
15:08 | NCARMichael | I'm looking for the coding for the 866a field. |
15:08 | biblio.holdings didn't work | |
15:08 | it's a serials report that i'm working on | |
15:10 | maybe it's serials.holdings | |
15:10 | sekjal | NCARMichael: 866a isn't parsed into the Koha database |
15:10 | NCARMichael | oh |
15:11 | sekjal | if it was in your incoming MARC records when you imported, you can look at biblioitems.marcxml |
15:11 | reiveune | bye |
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15:11 | sekjal | and if you're on MySQL 5.1 or greater, there is way to query the XML |
15:11 | so you can search the MARC directly | |
15:11 | NCARMichael | okay |
15:11 | sekjal | but Koha doesn't deal with MFHD at all at this time |
15:12 | I'm actually dealing with MFHD and serials holdings right now | |
15:12 | Evergreen has a few Perl modules that can handle the parsing of MFHD; I'd be interested in finding a way to import them into Koha | |
15:13 | magnuse | mfhd? |
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15:13 | sekjal | MARC Format for Holdings Data |
15:13 | I think it's only MARC21 | |
15:13 | not sure if there is a UNIMARC equivalent | |
15:13 | magnuse | ah yes |
15:14 | MFHD is MARC Format for Holdings Data | |
15:14 | mfhd? | |
15:14 | wahanui | hmmm... mfhd is MARC Format for Holdings Data |
15:15 | * oleonard | whispers to wahanui that MFHD = Muppets Favor Hairy Data |
15:15 | hdl | and he is quite right |
15:16 | sekjal | the nightmare is compounded for me today; not only do I have to deal with MFHD, but I've got to do all kinds of crazy stuff to even GET the data in the first place |
15:16 | it involves screen scraping and XSLT | |
15:17 | hdl | the 'koha' management of serials seq is quite efficient.... Or has been before we added that javascript on top. |
15:18 | * magnuse | shudders at the mention of screen scraping... |
15:19 | sekjal | somewhere between 5000 and 20000 pages, I think |
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15:20 | Cybermon | hi all |
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15:24 | magnuse | hm what should i set ServerName to in the apache config when i'm setting up an installation that only has an ip yet, and no domain name? the ip address? |
15:25 | gmcharlt | magnuse: that works |
15:27 | kf | bye #koha .) |
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15:28 | magnuse | gmcharlt: alas, it does not ;-) |
15:29 | hdl | NameVirtualHost IP |
15:29 | ServerName nameyouwant | |
15:29 | magnuse | i get "File does not exist: /etc/apache2/htdocs" in error.log even though koha is the only active site and the koha config file makes no mention of that location |
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15:31 | magnuse | hdl: but i don't have a name for it yet... |
15:32 | hdl | can't you create one ? |
15:33 | ServerName has to be an fqdn iirc in /etc/apache2/apache2.conf | |
15:36 | magnuse | "ServerName koha" ad "ServerName <ip>" does not work, there is no fqdn yet, and i'm not responsible for setting it up |
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15:36 | magnuse | s/ ad / and / |
15:49 | rhcl | I think slef is master of the little barbs, and Nicole and Wizzyrea master of the big barbs. |
15:50 | slef | I do not own a barbie. |
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15:51 | slef | rhcl: what was that about anyway? |
15:51 | * slef | is getting cross with daemon again |
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15:52 | schuster | druthb about? |
15:52 | rhcl | your most recent post to the koha list |
15:53 | correction koha-devel list | |
15:53 | slef | ah, grumbling about libwebcats |
15:53 | well, it bloody annoys me | |
15:53 | seeing libraries weakened to advantage vendors | |
15:54 | it's unethical | |
15:54 | but that's why I work for who I do | |
15:54 | because that matters to me | |
15:54 | rhcl | apparently as much as overdrive annoys me |
15:54 | slef | ah, don't get me started on that |
15:54 | rhcl | yea, I went off on that yesterday a little |
15:54 | slef | I liked a diveintomark/glynmoody tweet today |
15:55 | oh I've seen this before. I just don't remember where. | |
15:55 | zebrasrv taking ages to start up | |
15:56 | then printing something which confuses the terminal | |
15:56 | yaz-client segfaulting on connect | |
15:56 | hrm | |
15:56 | aha, I think I've got it | |
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15:58 | slef | no, I haven't. zebrasrv runs OK from command line now but not from daemon, "exited with 1 status" |
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16:00 | cait | hi #koha |
16:00 | slef | hi cait. You can't remember what zebrasrv "exited with 1 status" means, can you? |
16:00 | cait | um |
16:00 | never seen that I think | |
16:05 | sekjal++ | |
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16:07 | NCARMichael | How to display a particular marc field as a column in report results? |
16:07 | cait | there is a hint on the wiki |
16:07 | how you can parse the marcxml field | |
16:07 | sql library? | |
16:07 | reports library? | |
16:07 | wahanui | somebody said reports library was found at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]L_Reports_Library |
16:09 | NCARMichael | yes, i've been scanning the reports library for clues. |
16:09 | so far all i see are things like this: IF( LOCATE('<datafield tag="020"', (etc) | |
16:11 | I'm still trying to understand how SQL reports are structured. | |
16:11 | Sometimes there are codings for a field (items.itemcallnumber), | |
16:11 | cait | hm |
16:11 | no | |
16:11 | you are loooking for something else | |
16:11 | NCARMichael | but not all fields have such a coding |
16:11 | cait | let em find it |
16:12 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ibrary#Query_MARC | |
16:13 | NCARMichael | right, i was just reading that section. |
16:14 | i'll play around with this for awhile. perhaps it will educate me in the reports dept. | |
16:14 | thx | |
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16:50 | NCARMichael | okay, more reports questions. :) |
16:50 | anyone? | |
16:54 | http://paste.koha-community.or[…]submit=Format+it! | |
16:54 | it's not working, but i think i'm on the right track | |
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17:02 | pastebot | "gmcharlt" at 68.101.78.67 pasted "for NCARMichael" (5 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/60 |
17:03 | NCARMichael | beautiful! |
17:04 | Thanks Galen! | |
17:04 | gmcharlt | you're welcome |
17:05 | NCARMichael | This very basic report should prove quite versatile, methinks. |
17:06 | Now to add more columns to my results...title, for example. | |
17:08 | where can I put "biblio.title"? | |
17:09 | or perhaps add another extract (for 245a)? | |
17:16 | http://paste.koha-community.org/61 | |
17:17 | That's what I've got so far...obviously it's wrong. | |
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17:37 | Brooke | kia ora! |
17:37 | pastebot | "gmcharlt" at 68.101.78.67 pasted "NCARMichael: variant 1" (6 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/62 |
17:38 | "gmcharlt" at 68.101.78.67 pasted "NCARMichael: variant 2" (7 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/63 | |
17:38 | gmcharlt | so first one is using another extractvalue, just adding a comma and a column alias name change |
17:39 | second is joining the biblio table to get access to biblio.title | |
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17:48 | NCARMichael | thx galen |
17:48 | Brooke | galen++ |
17:49 | If I had had comp sci profs like gmcharlt, I'd know how to code. | |
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17:51 | Brooke | 0/ |
17:56 | NCARMichael | Galen, using http://paste.koha-community.org/62 |
17:56 | When I try to go to Page 2 of results, it reruns the report... | |
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17:58 | Brooke | 0/ |
17:58 | NCARMichael | (going to lunch...back later) |
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18:21 | hdl | going home |
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18:22 | gmcharlt | NCARMichael: it's a bug; working on fix |
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18:24 | Brooke | 0/ |
18:24 | pianohacker | Hey brooke |
18:25 | Brooke | how are things? |
18:25 | pianohacker | Pretty good! |
18:25 | Brooke | awesome |
18:25 | hooray for school winding down :D | |
18:25 | pianohacker | amen |
18:25 | So glad to be on summer vacation | |
18:38 | gmcharlt | NCARMichael: @bug 6409 |
18:38 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6409 normal, P5, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED , pagination bar for guided report output does not work if report has parameters |
18:39 | wizzyrea | *nod* that one bugs me too ;) |
18:44 | gmcharlt | wizzyrea: in that case, mind testing the patch I just submitted? |
18:44 | it also needs the patch for 6340 that cait did | |
18:44 | cait | thx for your sign-off on that :) |
18:45 | wizzyrea | ah k ... lemme see |
18:46 | * Brooke | wishes that the wiki fairy would come and sort things out for categories and uploads. |
18:46 | gmcharlt | :( sorry |
18:47 | cait | mails fixed? |
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18:48 | gmcharlt | NCARMichael: that fix is applied on your database. enjoy |
18:48 | cait | I think Space_Librarian and some others tried to register |
18:50 | huginn` | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6409] pagination bar for guided report output does not work if report has parameters <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6409> |
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18:59 | Brooke | 0/ |
19:01 | NCARMichael | it works! thx galen. |
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19:07 | pianohacker | Welp, I think I'm about fed up with unity |
19:07 | one crash too many | |
19:08 | * Brooke | comforts pianohacker. |
19:09 | pianohacker | *sniff* |
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19:15 | rhcl | Unity is better now than the first iteration; the first was really flakey, but with some recent updates and a better working knowledge of it it seems to be better. |
19:17 | pianohacker | I really like the feel of it. Either it or the other changes to compiz have made the whole system a bit fragile, though |
19:17 | If you want to customize compiz at all, things get very twitchy | |
19:19 | rangi | just join eythian and I and use xmonad pianohacker :) |
19:20 | rhcl | Yea, I've tried various settings with compiz, but a lot of the effects are annoying so I go back to some very basic things like transparency, which is helpful sometimes. I'm not completely decided on how well I <dis>like Unity. It seems OK on my netbook, but I really like multiple screens. |
19:20 | pianohacker | rhcl: Unity almost had a heart attack when I dared put something in my VGA port |
19:20 | rangi: I... dunno. I like some of the more interesting eyecandy compiz can do | |
19:20 | But i'll have to check xmonad out | |
19:21 | rhcl | Yes Yes! forgot about that. It totally locked up my netbook when I tried that. |
19:21 | I had to set the resolution to 800 X 600 _before_ connecting the vga cable. | |
19:22 | pianohacker | probably some issue with the 2048x2048 max screenbuffer size on most intel cards |
19:22 | but not the most user-friendly way of showing it | |
19:23 | rhcl | yep |
19:23 | * cait | waves |
19:23 | cait | trying to set up git-bz now :) |
19:23 | rhcl | hihi cait |
19:24 | pianohacker | hey, this looks really cool. I thought this was some unholy combo of git and bazaar, but bugzilla integration sounds really useful |
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19:27 | adnc | hello koha |
19:27 | cait | hi adnc :) |
19:27 | Brooke | howdy |
19:27 | wahanui | hey, Brooke |
19:28 | rangi | pianohacker: have a look back in the logs |
19:28 | wizzyrea | ph, i also have pretty good notes on it |
19:29 | rangi | there is a little bug in the upstream, which ive sent a patch for, but until then if you clone from my repo it works |
19:29 | (it works for standard bz, but our path is slightly different, and the bug is in setting hte path variable) | |
19:30 | wizzyrea is going to put her notes on the wiki i am sure | |
19:30 | wizzyrea | *nod* when I get back to work proper tomorrow |
19:30 | rangi | :) |
19:31 | off to catch the bus | |
19:31 | bbiab | |
19:32 | adnc | rangi any news about koha 3.4 for debian? |
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19:36 | cait | adnc: I think there is apatch that needs to be tested for the packages |
19:37 | wizzyrea++ | |
19:37 | adnc | hi cait |
19:37 | thanks for the info | |
19:37 | cait | bug 6361 |
19:37 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6361 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, robin, ASSIGNED , Packages need support for the 3.4 upgrade |
19:37 | cait | perhaps you want to try :) |
19:39 | adnc | ;) |
19:39 | bg | @wunder 93109 |
19:39 | huginn` | bg: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 19.7�C (12:43 PM PDT on May 25, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 30.00 in 1015.8 hPa (Steady). |
19:40 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
19:40 | huginn` | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 17.2�C (9:40 PM CEST on May 25, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 30.08 in 1018.5 hPa (Steady). |
19:40 | bg | heya cait |
19:42 | cait | hi bg :) |
19:43 | almost as warm as in california - I bet we had 19.7 at your time :) | |
19:43 | wizzyrea | @wunder lawrence ks |
19:43 | huginn` | wizzyrea: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 17.6�C (2:47 PM CDT on May 25, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: 15.0�C. Pressure: 29.41 in 995.8 hPa (Steady). |
19:45 | rangi | its rainy out there |
19:46 | @wunder wellington nz | |
19:46 | huginn` | rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 17.0�C (7:35 AM NZST on May 26, 2011). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 16.0�C. Pressure: 29.56 in 1001 hPa (Rising). |
19:46 | sekjal | @wunder 01373 |
19:46 | huginn` | sekjal: The current temperature in Plain Road East, South Deerfield, Massachusetts is 25.0�C (3:35 PM EDT on May 25, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: 14.0�C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013.1 hPa (Steady). |
19:47 | sekjal | bg: I think I have you beat, amazingly |
19:48 | bg | yeah 25 is too hot |
19:49 | sekjal | what?! it's GORGEOUS outside |
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19:51 | slef | oops I did it again |
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19:53 | rangi | ? |
19:54 | slef | tweaked mbreeding |
19:54 | he winds me up | |
19:55 | can he really not have realised libwebcats is a huge conman's streetmap? | |
19:55 | * sekjal | struggles not to insert a Britney Spears joke here... the time for such things is passed |
19:55 | rangi | I think he probably hasn't |
19:55 | slef | sekjal: yeah, I know people who wanted to insert Britney Spears, but think the time for such things is passed. |
19:55 | rangi | I do think he thinks he is doing good |
19:56 | slef | ...paved with good intentions :( |
19:57 | Anyway, after trying to send my most patient explanation (I failed), I then got bad news about OCLC's adoption of ODC-By | |
19:57 | rangi | they did? |
19:57 | slef | They're going to adopt ODC-BY for WorldCat *alongside* the current usage policy, according to latest emails. |
19:57 | rangi | gah |
19:57 | slef | That makes little sense. |
19:58 | cait | odc-by? |
19:58 | slef | If ODC-BY is WorldCat-clickwrap-(AIUI)-compatible, that seems like a bug to me. |
19:58 | odc-by is http://www.opendatacommons.org/licenses/by/ | |
19:58 | odc-by? | |
19:58 | wahanui | i guess odc-by is http://www.opendatacommons.org/licenses/by/ |
19:58 | slef | :) |
19:59 | just checking | |
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20:01 | sekjal | slef: I think I get where you're going with the Social Engineering concerns, but I'm missing the crucial piece of being worried. do you have any cases yet of bad guys attempting to use the info on libwebcats to steal patron data? |
20:02 | slef | sekjal: people tend not to be open about successful security exploits. |
20:02 | sekjal: IOW no, not yet. | |
20:02 | cait | I think it's perhaps important how much information you have there |
20:02 | everybody can find out a library address | |
20:03 | and someone from the field can findout the software you are using by looking at the opac pretty easily | |
20:03 | slef | cait: but library director names, support provider names? |
20:03 | cait | for the proprietary systems support provider = software |
20:03 | sekjal | so would the exploit be to call the library director and claim to be from the support company, asking for passwords? |
20:03 | cait | and library directors are listed on homepages |
20:04 | sure it makes it easier to have the information already in a nice database, but it's not hard to get that info for someone who wants it | |
20:04 | slef | sekjal: no, to call a library worker, claiming to be from the support company, invoking the library director's name if they doubt it. |
20:05 | rangi | done well, breach would never be noticed/reported |
20:05 | sekjal | slef: yes, better exploit |
20:05 | slef | cait: library directors are not listed on homepages in many cases here AIUI. If you are lucky, one librarian may be named. I'm surprised it's different for you: I thought we shared the same privacy laws? |
20:05 | rangi | it happens a lot more than ppl think |
20:05 | sekjal | would only work if the library worker knew who the support company was |
20:05 | I don't have stats on how often that's true... | |
20:05 | cait | slef: it's normal here that the team with names and work areas are listed |
20:06 | rangi | sekjal: thats where a nice big list is handy |
20:06 | cait | I think some big libraries do it different, but the small ones all do afaik |
20:06 | rangi | one doesn't work, u have thousands more to try |
20:07 | slef | I've just checked 3 of our libraries: 2 name one librarian (not the director) and 1 names no-one. |
20:07 | sekjal | and then you'd be able to extract patron reading history |
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20:07 | rangi | but my main issue isn't the social engineering bit |
20:07 | its the terms of use | |
20:07 | slef | sekjal: home address, payment details, ... |
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20:08 | sekjal | slef: I consider addresses, phone numbers and emails to be public knowledge |
20:08 | rangi | and the fact it conflates vendor with software |
20:08 | and only 1 vendor per lib etc | |
20:08 | slef | sekjal: EU laws disagree. |
20:09 | cait | sekjal: um no |
20:09 | slef | rangi: yeah, those were some other things I waved at quickly (things like...) and ran away from this time ;-) |
20:09 | cait | not of patrons |
20:09 | sekjal | slef: ok, that definitely overrules my considerations for a very large geographical area |
20:09 | cait | a lot of people here do not list their phone numbers publicly |
20:09 | slef | now you see, this is why it's a criminal offence to transfer personal data from the EU to the USA without safeguards ;-) |
20:09 | cait | and a whole lot of existing email addresses... you can even sell that for good money |
20:10 | rangi | ok my stop back soon |
20:10 | cait | and a reason why people here don't get excited about web scale |
20:10 | having patron data somewhere in the cloud | |
20:10 | slef | also, the cloud = USA often = out of our laws |
20:12 | cait | yep, exactly |
20:12 | slef | UK privacy is http://www.ico.gov.uk/for_orga[…]e_principles.aspx |
20:12 | sekjal | is it any harder to find European folks addresses than Americans'? |
20:12 | cait | the paperwork for privacy laws is driving me insane. but I understand why we do it |
20:12 | and once we have some templates it will get easier I hope | |
20:13 | Ropuch | Evening #koha |
20:13 | slef | sekjal: it depends. For someone like me, the Distance Selling Regulations and so on means I'm findable. |
20:13 | cait | sekjal: there are phone books, but you don't have to get listed |
20:13 | slef | heh, yeah, my personal phone numbers aren't listed |
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20:13 | slef | oh wait, one is because I'm a councillor |
20:13 | cait | I had mine deleted some time ago, should check again |
20:14 | * Brooke | rings slef up angrily with a zoning dispute. |
20:14 | sekjal | how often do you have to provide address/phone/email info to sign up for services in the EU? |
20:14 | slef | Brooke: next council up. I'm only advisory on zoning. |
20:14 | sekjal | and is that data always protected under the law? |
20:15 | Brooke | "Oh, this is abuse? I wanted an argument!" |
20:15 | our info is technically protected to under your jurisdiction | |
20:16 | be damned if you can't find duplicated info elsewhere, minus the checkout data, of course. | |
20:16 | slef | sekjal: mainly for things that give credit or hold money I think. And yes, always protected as default. |
20:16 | sekjal: try to find Cait. | |
20:16 | * slef | tries to find sekjal |
20:16 | cait | huh? |
20:16 | sekjal | slef: I think you'll have an easy time of it |
20:17 | * cait | feels weird |
20:17 | coryj is now known as coryj_away | |
20:17 | slef | bah it would help if I remembered which state you're in :) |
20:17 | cait | sekjal: yes, they are not allowed to give data out to a third party and the person giving the data can make a request to see all the data they have saved |
20:18 | slef | I think you're hiding by having a common name! |
20:18 | cait | same for me I fear :) |
20:18 | Brooke | oi, that's my gig. |
20:18 | sekjal | slef: I think there are only two of me in the US... the third is recently deceased (the author of gardening books) |
20:20 | wizzyrea | there are several of my short name, not sure how many in long form |
20:21 | rangi | here xero got in trouble for storing peoples data overseas |
20:22 | the tax department wasnt happy with them | |
20:22 | http://computerworld.co.nz/new[…]t&HighLight=2,IRD | |
20:24 | slef | sekjal: yeah, search engines keep singularising your name, I see now :-/ |
20:24 | wizzyrea: what's rea short for? | |
20:24 | dinnertime bbl | |
20:25 | wizzyrea | elizabeth vs. liz |
20:25 | ;) | |
20:25 | rea is just short | |
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20:25 | rhcl | Well, I'm finding info on Katrin Fisher, including work contact info, but maybe I'm missing the point |
20:25 | cait | on our institution's hp? |
20:25 | rhcl | yea |
20:26 | cait | yep |
20:26 | I had to sign a paper | |
20:27 | Brooke | it's two different worlds if you put in just my first and last name versus the name I publish under. |
20:27 | cait | for our new homepage anyway and which information I wanted to show there |
20:27 | sekjal | slef: dropping the 's' at the end of my name gives much worse results, in my finding. more common, that iteration of the name |
20:27 | pianohacker | routers-- # one hell of a day for tech |
20:28 | slef | rhcl: and home? |
20:28 | rhcl | but there is a lot of data associating your nick with your real name...but my thought is that we generally regard contact info (official business info) for things like library directors as open knowledge here in the US. |
20:29 | Brooke | you'd be amazed at how buried some duhrectors can make things |
20:29 | rangi | heh sekjal and I both replied at the same time to bev |
20:29 | slef | and urgh, someone reply to mbreeding before I do please... he's comparing libwebcats with the wiki instead of the suggested optionally-anonymised popcon. |
20:29 | rhcl | slef: no, but I'm not a very persistent peep. I'm not really making any effort to really look up personal info on her. |
20:29 | slef | now really dinner :) |
20:29 | rangi | sekjal: i have a question for ya |
20:30 | rhcl: all security is target reduction, not absolutes | |
20:30 | you dont have to run faster than the lion | |
20:30 | sekjal | rangi: shoot |
20:30 | rangi | just faster than the guy next to you |
20:30 | rhcl | shoot the lion? |
20:30 | cait | rangi: don#t see yourmail? |
20:30 | rhcl | that's real target reduction |
20:30 | slef | outlaw the lion biting people... that's the EU solution :-S |
20:30 | rhcl | hehe |
20:31 | rangi | sekjal: i was going to jump into the signed off queue and grab any of the little TT bugs |
20:31 | Brooke | hey, mebbe I like biting lions. |
20:31 | rangi | sekjal: sound like an ok idea? |
20:31 | sekjal | rangi: sounds great. working on bug 6359 right now |
20:31 | slef | Brooke: what would you make of a flat roofing contractor? |
20:31 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6359 minor, P5, ---, cnighswonger, NEW , number one printing on quick label page |
20:31 | sekjal | wait |
20:31 | that's not the right number | |
20:31 | rangi | :) |
20:32 | slef | bug -1 |
20:32 | rhcl | slef isn't going to get anything to eat...stays on irc |
20:32 | :) | |
20:32 | sekjal | bug 6395 |
20:32 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6395 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , cannot create routing list - template error? |
20:32 | slef | yeaaaaah |
20:32 | rangi | ill clear my passed qa queue first |
20:32 | sekjal | apparently, I'm dyslexic for bug numbers |
20:32 | cait | go and greetings to S :) |
20:32 | rangi | then grab any simple ones out of signed off (one line TT changes and the like) |
20:32 | cool | |
20:33 | cait | rangi: see your mail no |
20:33 | w | |
20:34 | NCARMichael | allo again. more reports... |
20:34 | http://paste.koha-community.or[…]submit=Format+it! | |
20:35 | question: how to order results by title (asc) | |
20:36 | anyone? Bueller? | |
20:36 | pianohacker | I think you should be able to just tack on an ORDER BY TITLE to the end of that |
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20:36 | Brooke | 0/ |
20:37 | rangi | heya larryb |
20:37 | larryb | Hi there. |
20:38 | NCARMichael | oh. duh. thx! |
20:39 | pianohacker | np |
20:40 | NCARMichael | uh oh. now it gives me only one page. |
20:41 | i wonder if this has anything to do with galen's recent patch for the pages bug... | |
20:41 | wizzyrea | actually no, probably not |
20:41 | that's been a bug for a while | |
20:41 | I just download those :P | |
20:42 | sekjal | cait++ |
20:42 | cait | there were 2 bugs, the pagination bar in 3.4.1 is still broken I think |
20:42 | does never show up | |
20:42 | slef | dinner still cooking :) |
20:42 | cait | sekjal? |
20:42 | wahanui | sekjal is a wonderful geek. |
20:42 | Brooke | tee hee! |
20:43 | cait | yeah, wahanui - I KNOW - but why is he giving mekarma? |
20:43 | wizzyrea | well you're awesome of course |
20:43 | sekjal | cait: for the test plan included with bug 6340 |
20:43 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6340 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED , Pagination bar on guided reports result page broken |
20:43 | sekjal | (pushing through QA right now) |
20:44 | NCARMichael | pages only disappeared once i added "ORDER BY TITLE" |
20:44 | cait | oh |
20:44 | I try :) | |
20:45 | pianohacker | NCARMichael: accursed thing. This is being run through the custom SQL part of the guided reports wizard, right? |
20:45 | cait | sekjal: better to note on bug in the commit message or in bugzilla? |
20:45 | sekjal | either place is fine by me |
20:45 | I'll see both in the QA process | |
20:47 | rangi | heh |
20:47 | bug 6401 | |
20:47 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6401 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, nengard, NEW , Give Ian Walls credit in the history file. |
20:47 | rangi | thats an easy push :) |
20:47 | sekjal | rangi: most of the ones in the Passed QA queue right now are easy... I started with ones I could do by reading |
20:48 | rangi | sounds like a good plan to me |
20:52 | NCARMichael | yes, custom SQL. |
20:53 | cait | rangi: got git-bz working with liz help :) |
20:53 | wizzyrea++ | |
20:53 | rangi | yay |
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20:53 | wizzyrea | was there more to do for pushing up patches |
20:54 | ? | |
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20:55 | cait | wizzyrea ? :) |
20:55 | slef | I need more servers again :( |
20:55 | wizzyrea | you can use gitbz to attach patches to bugs as well |
20:55 | gmcharlt | slef: what happened? |
20:56 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6401 fix to the history file <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]dcc60f4e2d7fbea43> / Bug 3580 Sort the facets categories so they don't move every search. <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e2dbe920bc8e1bfcf> |
20:57 | rangi | so what you do |
20:57 | is on your branch | |
20:57 | you make a commit | |
20:57 | slef | gmcharlt: too many customers... need more space for dev work... nothing to worry about... just need the research server to come online in a few days |
20:57 | rangi | git attach bz bugnumber HEAD |
20:57 | NCARMichael | pianohacker: r u sure it's a bug? pages work fine on custom report UNLESS i add "order by title" |
20:58 | rangi | sorry git bz attach |
20:58 | wizzyrea | how does it know who you are? based on firrefox cookie? |
20:58 | rangi | that will attach the latest commit, to the bug |
20:58 | yes | |
20:58 | wizzyrea | kool |
20:58 | rangi | this is cool too |
20:58 | pianohacker | NCARMichael: Adding ORDER BY TITLE is valid SQL |
20:58 | rangi | you can use -e |
20:59 | pianohacker | the guided reports wizard is likely adding its own ORDER BY, which doesn't work |
20:59 | rangi | to edit the patch |
21:00 | NCARMichael | but i'm not using guided reports... |
21:01 | rhcl | speaking of servers, we got one of these and are using it for our Koha test machine. Very happy with it so far. 'cept they've raised the price, our's was $69. |
21:01 | https://www.andovercg.com/stor[…]Server-p1136.html | |
21:01 | gmcharlt | pianohacker: it isn't adding an order by automatically to SQL reports. how would it even guess? |
21:02 | pianohacker | gmcharlt: you're right, it doesn't make sense |
21:02 | looking at the code now | |
21:03 | rhcl | oh, and it looks like the current batch only has 4gb, ours has 8. Looks like we bought at the right time. |
21:03 | slef | rhcl: does buying that fund oracle? ;) |
21:03 | rhcl | no, it's used, surely no money to Oracle, and we even used Deb instead of Solaris |
21:04 | rangi | i wonder if i could bring a couple back in my suitcase |
21:04 | rhcl: noisy? | |
21:05 | rhcl | My poor tech assistant, a college student, bought one for himself in all his excitement over such a great find. He can't use it since he has to keep it in his bedroom and it's too noisy for anyone in the house to stand. :) |
21:05 | slef | sounds like the suns I remember |
21:05 | rangi | yeah |
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21:07 | rhcl | yep, absolutely the best hardware known to humankind, but noisy. Sad situation now that Sun has departed. |
21:07 | pianohacker | NCARMichael: I'm really not sure why that's breaking it, sorry |
21:07 | Space_Librarian | morning #koha |
21:09 | rangi | hi sekjal |
21:09 | gah | |
21:09 | Space_Librarian even | |
21:09 | Space_Librarian | hehehe. :) |
21:09 | sekjal | 'bye sekjal' is more appropriate now... I've got to dash |
21:10 | Space_Librarian | ciao sekjal |
21:10 | :) | |
21:10 | rangi | cya |
21:10 | sekjal | later Space_Librarian, rangi, #koha! |
21:10 | pianohacker | NCARMichael: Is it feasible for you to check your error log? |
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21:15 | gmcharlt | NCARMichael: turns out it didn't like the aliasing of 'title' in the order by clause |
21:16 | pastebot | "gmcharlt" at 68.101.78.67 pasted "NCARMichael: this version works" (1 line) at http://paste.koha-community.org/67 |
21:16 | * wizzyrea | is happy to see joins instead of left joins |
21:18 | pianohacker | gmcharlt: So there's specifically a problem with aliasing the results of functions? That's frustrating, thanks for figuring it out |
21:19 | cait | you could try order by 1 |
21:20 | pianohacker | cait++ # Never heard of that before, but it works |
21:20 | cait | for first colum |
21:20 | n | |
21:20 | does work for me | |
21:20 | hehe | |
21:20 | distance_study_sql_course++ | |
21:23 | gmcharlt | cait: indeed; for some reason I was under the mistaken impression that mysql didn't support that yet |
21:23 | ... | |
21:23 | now I remember, I think it's group by 1 that mysql doesn't do | |
21:23 | cait | I think you are right about htat |
21:24 | gmcharlt | no, I'm still wrong, it likes that |
21:24 | at least in 5.1 | |
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21:25 | NCARMichael | it works! yet another thanks, galen. (and pianohacker!) |
21:27 | cait | gmcharlt: good to know! |
21:29 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #256: ABORTED in 3 mn 38 s: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/256/ |
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21:31 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 257 for job Koha_master (previous build: ABORTED -- last SUCCESS #255 1 j 19 h ago) |
21:35 | cait | unhappy jenkins? |
21:35 | rangi | yeah |
21:35 | java | |
21:35 | oh look you have ram, let me use ALL OF IT | |
21:36 | i think its under control again now | |
21:36 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for Bug 6395, Cannot create routing list <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]5a5fcba7cb85bf212> / Bug 6343: TT issues in label creator <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]9204691a84ebe78e1> / Bug 5658 can't delete subfields in frameworks <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]018ecc4030983ca14 |
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21:39 | cait | hungry jenkins |
21:40 | !jenkins botsnack lots of cookies | |
21:40 | jenkins_koha | cait: you're so kind to me! I could eat lots of cookies all day long |
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21:43 | pianohacker | !jenkins botsnack RAM |
21:43 | jenkins_koha | pianohacker: great! yum yum. I just love RAM! |
21:44 | Space_Librarian | did I not feed jenkins enough cookies last night? sorry. ;) |
21:45 | wizzyrea | h its nice to haveph around again :) |
21:48 | pianohacker | thanks wizzy :) |
21:48 | good to be back | |
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21:56 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for Bug 3140 - It is possible to email someone else's private list <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]8a44a72895c829b32> |
22:14 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #257: SUCCESS in 43 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/257/ |
22:14 | * Frédérick Capovilla: Bug 3580 Sort the facets categories so they don't move every search. | |
22:14 | * ruthbywatersolutions.com: Bug 6401 fix to the history file | |
22:14 | * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 5658 can't delete subfields in frameworks | |
22:14 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3580 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Control order in which facet categories display |
22:14 | jenkins_koha | * Katrin Fischer: Bug 6343: TT issues in label creator |
22:14 | * Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 6395, Cannot create routing list | |
22:14 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6401 trivial, PATCH-Sent, ---, nengard, NEW , Give Ian Walls credit in the history file. |
22:14 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5658 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, fridolyn.somers, ASSIGNED , can't delete subfields in frameworks | |
22:14 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6343 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED , Label Creator not working , Current Branch: NULL | |
22:14 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6395 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , cannot create routing list - template error? | |
22:14 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 258 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
22:15 | rangi | yay |
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22:16 | cait | :) |
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22:46 | cait | good night #koha |
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22:47 | rhcl | who wrote Makefile.PL? |
22:48 | It seems to do a heck of a lot of stuff for a non-compiled language | |
22:49 | pianohacker | rhcl: according to git log Makefile.PL, slef started it, and he's the local perl wizard |
22:52 | rangi | its moving templtaes round, populating config files etc |
22:52 | eythian | it's probably started with MakeMaker |
22:53 | (disclaimer: I haven't the foggiest idea of how MakeMaker works, just that it exists) | |
22:53 | rhcl | the next kohacon I go to I want somebody to do a full 1 hour presentation on what it's doing. |
22:54 | eythian | 1 hour is a bit short. It seems like a 1 week presentation would start to fit most of it :) |
22:54 | rhcl | makefile is apparently just a list of all the perl modules and stuff included (images, etc) in the final Koha build |
22:55 | Oh, after one hour I'm sure I'd walk out... :) | |
22:57 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #258: SUCCESS in 42 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/258/ |
22:57 | Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 3140 - It is possible to email someone else's private list | |
22:57 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3140 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , It is possible to email someone else's private list |
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23:28 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 259 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
23:29 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6258 - Guided reports wizard 'Build new' brings up empty page <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e49f297328edde83d> |
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23:34 | Soup | oh :D hello |
23:34 | Soup is now known as Soupermanito | |
23:35 | Soupermanito | well hello |
23:35 | wahanui | hola, Soupermanito |
23:35 | Soupermanito | hola! |
23:35 | :D hablan espa�ol? | |
23:36 | rangi | wahanui is a bot, it doesnt really speak any language |
23:37 | Soupermanito | oh :D ok, ahm hello people then, I am a library science student and i wanted to learn to use and configure koha |
23:37 | to add that to my resum� XD | |
23:38 | so i was hoping to learn to install it and configure it using a simple network i have at this box, whit some virtual machines as clients and stuff like that | |
23:42 | pianohacker | Soupermanito: that's very doable. You don't even need virtual machines as clients, since a Koha client is just a web browser |
23:42 | Soupermanito | :) |
23:42 | yes i noticed that | |
23:43 | eythian | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]pment_Environment <-- Soupermanito, maybe this'll get you somewhere. |
23:43 | Soupermanito | i've also found this http://hubpages.com/hub/Install-Koha-on-Ubuntu |
23:48 | rangi | http://access2011.library.ubc.ca/schedule/#day1 |
23:50 | Soupermanito | :) a lot of universities in argentina are starting to use koha |
23:51 | :D thats why i want to learn about it :D |
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