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| 02:53 | danmc | anyone up on koha_perl_deps.pl debugging? It is claiming 3 of my modules are at a current version of "0" when I don't think they are. Is there perhaps any sort of a debug log created? |
| 02:54 | jcamins_away | danmc: I don't know much about it, but which modules? |
| 02:56 | danmc | MARC::Charset, MARC::File::XML, Schedule::At |
| 02:56 | jcamins_away | Ooh. |
| 02:56 | You don't need the latter, but you do need the other two. | |
| 02:56 | What OS? | |
| 02:56 | danmc | NetBSD |
| 02:57 | working on getting koha into pkgsrc (the system NetBSD uses for 3rd party apps) | |
| 02:57 | * jcamins_away | spent a while working on a FreeBSD port. |
| 02:57 | jcamins_away | Check that you don't have two versions of Perl? |
| 02:57 | danmc | ok, so you know the drill of trying to compile the big list of perl module dependencies |
| 02:57 | jcamins_away | Yep. |
| 02:58 | danmc | perl-5.12.2 is the only one I have installed |
| 02:58 | jcamins_away | Okay, just checking. |
| 02:58 | danmc | I should look, is there a working koha port in freebsd ports? |
| 02:58 | jcamins_away | _That_ particular issue tripped me up... many times. |
| 02:58 | Nope. | |
| 02:58 | Lemme see if I still have my Makefile. | |
| 02:59 | danmc | I had briefly looked at koha ages (8 yrs) ago and then more recently started digging into a PR someone submited with a slightly out of date version. |
| 02:59 | jcamins_away | No help there. |
| 02:59 | (my Makefile... it wasn't written yet. | |
| 03:00 | danmc | ah. |
| 03:00 | jcamins_away | Let's see... |
| 03:00 | You know that MARC::File and MARC::File::XML are completely different, right? | |
| 03:00 | MARC::Charset should be p5-MARC-Charset. | |
| 03:01 | Under textproc, maybe? | |
| 03:01 | danmc | yep. I have p5-MARC-Charset and p5-MARC-XML |
| 03:01 | the XML one has /usr/pkg/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.12.0/MARC/File/XML.pm | |
| 03:01 | jcamins_away | Hm. |
| 03:02 | vendor_perl? Is that a proper NetBSD thing? | |
| 03:02 | That doesn't look right to me, from my experience with FreeBSD. | |
| 03:02 | danmc | good question. I generally shy away from working on the perl module pkgs |
| 03:03 | seems to be that way on the ones I'm spot checking | |
| 03:03 | jcamins_away | Okay, just checking. |
| 03:05 | What version of p5-MARC-XML do you have? | |
| 03:05 | danmc | actually, it claims Schedule::At is required. I may have to suck it up and try to figure out out the koha_perl_deps.pl program actually works. |
| 03:05 | I have 0.92 of p5-MARC-XML | |
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| 03:06 | jcamins_away | Schedule::At is definitely not required. |
| 03:06 | That functionality does not work. | |
| 03:07 | What version of Koha are you working with? | |
| 03:08 | Copy the output of koha_perl_deps.pl into paste.koha-community.org? | |
| 03:08 | danmc | 3.04.00 |
| 03:09 | jcamins_away | Okay, that's good. |
| 03:10 | pastebot | "danmc" at 24.98.165.232 pasted "koha_perl_deps.pl output" (118 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/54 |
| 03:12 | jcamins_away | Hm. |
| 03:13 | I have no idea how C4::Installer::PerlModules works. | |
| 03:13 | danmc | yeah, me neither. Seems to be a koha specific module. |
| 03:13 | jcamins_away | Definitely Koha specific. |
| 03:13 | Also completely opaque. | |
| 03:19 | danmc | so it's not just me being dumb |
| 03:19 | jcamins_away | No. |
| 03:19 | Definitely not. | |
| 03:20 | The person to talk to is chris_n. | |
| 03:20 | Unfortunately, it's 11:23pm on Friday where he is. | |
| 03:20 | danmc | lol |
| 03:20 | Unfortunately is is also 11:23pm on Friday where I am too ;) | |
| 03:21 | jcamins_away | Where I am, too. |
| 03:24 | danmc | are you a casual user or do you use koha for a job? |
| 03:24 | jcamins_away | The latter. |
| 03:24 | I'm the Lead Support Specialist for ByWater Solutions. | |
| 03:25 | We use Debian exclusively. | |
| 03:25 | Or, at least, as exclusively as we can. | |
| 03:27 | danmc | with the rather long list of dependencies, I can see wanting to stick to one OS distribution. |
| 03:28 | jcamins_away | Yeah. Especially since Catalyst has super-slick packages. |
| 04:06 | danmc | ah. C4::Installer aside, it seems those few perl modules are broken. |
| 04:09 | pastebot | "danmc" at 24.98.165.232 pasted "broken perl modules" (14 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/55 |
| 04:09 | danmc | I suspect if I fix that issue then koha_perl_deps.pl will become happy. |
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| 04:31 | pianohacker | hola |
| 04:32 | anyone around for a bit of lazyweb? | |
| 04:34 | actually, maybe: rangi? | |
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| 05:12 | kmkale | Namaskar #koha |
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| 08:08 | cait | hi #koha |
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| 10:10 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 10:10 | huginn` | cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 22.0�C (12:00 PM CEST on May 21, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 43%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 30.13 in 1020 hPa (Falling). |
| 10:52 | druthb joined #koha | |
| 10:52 | druthb | o/ |
| 10:52 | cait | morning druthb :) |
| 10:52 | druthb | hi. :) |
| 10:52 | * cait | puts a big bowl of strawberries in the middle of #koha |
| 10:53 | * druthb | takes one and nibbles on it. |
| 10:55 | cait | are you not scared I am trying to poison you? ;) |
| 10:55 | * cait | remembers the cookie incident |
| 10:59 | druthb | nope. |
| 11:00 | cait | k |
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| 11:30 | jcamins_away is now known as jcamins | |
| 11:30 | jcamins | Good morning, #koha. |
| 11:32 | druthb | Hi, jcamins! |
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| 11:56 | cait | hi jcamins |
| 11:57 | jcamins | Hi cait. |
| 12:20 | magnus_away is now known as magnuse | |
| 12:22 | druthb | Hi, magnuse! :) |
| 12:23 | cait | hi magnuse :) |
| 12:23 | magnuse | kia ora druthb and cait and #koha |
| 12:24 | anyone else tried wizzyreas patch for bug 6258? | |
| 12:24 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6258 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Guided reports wizard 'Build new' brings up empty page |
| 12:24 | magnuse | i get "fatal: sha1 information is lacking or useless (reports/guided_reports.pl)." |
| 12:27 | jcamins | What arguments are you using? |
| 12:27 | magnuse | git am -i3u |
| 12:28 | jcamins | Okay, no idea, then. |
| 12:28 | magnuse | hm, guess i have to mark it does not apply, then |
| 12:35 | cait | and it does not finish? |
| 12:35 | hm, fatal | |
| 12:35 | probably not | |
| 12:38 | magnuse | nope, it suggeste git am --resolved/skip/abort |
| 12:38 | the first patch applies nicely though | |
| 12:41 | cait | ah |
| 12:41 | and solving the conflict? | |
| 12:41 | it's only a one liner | |
| 12:41 | Guillaume left #koha | |
| 12:44 | magnuse | it's not really a conflict, it's "sha1 information is lacking or useless" |
| 12:45 | i could do what she did and create a new patch, but wouldn't want to appear to steal her fix or something... | |
| 12:46 | cait | yeah :( |
| 12:46 | she had some problems with her git branch | |
| 12:46 | probably somethng went wrong | |
| 12:46 | magnuse | yeah, looks like it |
| 13:22 | magnuse is now known as magnus_away | |
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| 13:56 | jcamins | search faq? |
| 13:56 | wahanui | search faq is, like, at http://koha-community.org/docu[…]on/faq/searching/ |
| 14:40 | bg | pancakes? |
| 14:40 | wahanui | pancakes are always good |
| 14:40 | bg | recipe for pancakes? |
| 14:41 | * druthb | pokes her BEST BOSS EVAR in the ribs. |
| 14:41 | druthb | wahanui: recipe for pancakes? |
| 14:41 | wahanui | i heard recipe for pancakes was at http://allrecipes.com/Recipe/g[…]cakes/Detail.aspx |
| 14:43 | bg | I'm thinking about this one http://www.sugarlaws.com/cinnamon-pancakes |
| 14:44 | druthb | oooo. teh yum. |
| 14:44 | jcamins | Coconut curry chocolate chip cookies are at http://www.cookiemadness.net/2[…]ate-chip-cookies/ |
| 14:44 | druthb | wahanui: recipe for pancakes is also at http://www.sugarlaws.com/cinnamon-pancakes |
| 14:44 | wahanui | okay, druthb. |
| 14:45 | druthb | wahanui: druthb? |
| 14:45 | wahanui | druthb: bugger all, i dunno |
| 14:45 | druthb | wahanui: Brooke? |
| 14:45 | wahanui | Brooke is deprecated |
| 14:45 | druthb | lol |
| 14:45 | bg | heh |
| 14:45 | druthb? | |
| 14:46 | druthb | wahanui: druthb is blogging irregularly at http://librarygeekgirl.net |
| 14:46 | wahanui | OK, druthb. |
| 14:46 | bg | wahanui: jcamins? |
| 14:46 | wahanui | well, jcamins is supposed to be an outstanding cook. or well-traveled and brilliant. or trying to think of a solution, but short of a set of three sysprefs (ShelfBrowserUsesLocation, ShelfBrowserUsesCcode, and ShelfBrowserUsesHomeBranch), I don't really have any ideas. |
| 14:46 | bg | wahanui: druthb? |
| 14:46 | wahanui | druthb is blogging irregularly at http://librarygeekgirl.net |
| 14:46 | * druthb | blinks. |
| 14:46 | bg | :D |
| 14:46 | druthb | wahanui: bg? |
| 14:46 | wahanui | [1]+ infobot & |
| 14:46 | druthb | wahanui brendan? |
| 14:46 | wahanui | somebody said brendan was with his family |
| 14:48 | druthb | wahanui: bg? |
| 14:48 | wahanui | hmmm... bg is the awesomest boss....no, really, I mean it. |
| 14:51 | druthb is now known as druthb_away | |
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| 15:24 | Oak | \o |
| 15:24 | cait | hi Oak |
| 15:25 | Oak | hello Ms. cait :) |
| 15:25 | cait | :) |
| 15:25 | Oak | see, i remembered |
| 15:25 | druthb_away is now known as druthb | |
| 15:26 | druthb | Hi, Oak! :) |
| 15:26 | Oak | hiya druthb, how are you today? :) |
| 15:26 | druthb | Doing well! :) |
| 15:26 | Oak | good |
| 15:27 | * Oak | is reading Stranger in a Strange Land |
| 15:28 | druthb | I haven't read any Heinlein in years and years. |
| 15:29 | Oak | what was your last book druthb ? |
| 15:30 | druthb | Hm... I enjoyed Heinlein's YA stories a *lot*...they stayed clear of his somewhat strange politics, and his...erm...strange views on sex and sexuality. I think the last one I read, about two or three years ago, was "Orphans of the Sky." |
| 15:32 | Being a transgendered person, I somewhat get the themes of "I Will Fear No Evil," though Heinlein's oddities are clear there...he *didn't* get it, but he was willing to talk about it, at a time when a lot of authors were not. | |
| 15:33 | Oak | err, i don't know much about his views. this is his first book i'm reading... normally I prefer reading books by Hardy, Austen, Tolstoy, Charlotte Bront�, Hemingway again and again |
| 15:34 | i mean i've read Far From the Madding Crowd many times but if I pick it up again i won't be bored one bit | |
| 15:35 | druthb | :) Heinlein had some interesting views on political structure; he favored democracy, but with a somewhat socialist bent. His notions on human sexuality were ...somewhat freewheeling. In this country, the term for such as he is "dirty old man". |
| 15:37 | That said (and it sounds negative, but isn't, really...or not too much), he did spin some good stories. "Stranger" is good, but my favorites are "Friday" and "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress." | |
| 15:37 | Oak | hmm |
| 15:40 | druthb | He had a lot of interesting ideas, given the context he was writing in...and history has shown him to be at-best partly correct about some of his assumptions of where things were headed. Good stories, but don't get to thinkin' he was right about things, too much. |
| 15:40 | * Oak | hides Heinlein's book under the mattress |
| 15:41 | * druthb | raises an eyebrow |
| 15:41 | Oak | :) |
| 15:42 | * druthb | used to read a lot more sci-fi than she does, these days. |
| 15:42 | druthb | Lately, my science reading is non-fiction ("Perl Best Practices"...) and my fiction reading is non-science (cheap romance novels. :P ) |
| 15:43 | Oak | hehe |
| 15:46 | * jcamins | just read half of The Mysterious Flame of Queen Loana. |
| 15:46 | feels rather betrayed. It started out so well, then suddenly, he's in a coma and his memory is restored. | |
| 15:47 | * cait | hides |
| 15:49 | * Oak | goes to find something to eat |
| 15:52 | * jcamins | stirs his garlic flatbread dough. |
| 15:59 | cait | hmm |
| 15:59 | sounds yummy | |
| 16:00 | jcamins | It's not going to be as good as the lavash we're going to eat in Budapest, but it should be pretty tasty. |
| 16:03 | cait | hehe |
| 16:32 | druthb | goof_resistant_cookery++ |
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| 17:54 | jcamins | food++ |
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| 18:00 | cait | jcamins++ for incredible delicious sounding descriptions of food :) |
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| 20:17 | cait | hi magnuse :) |
| 20:18 | magnuse | hiya cait and #koha |
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| 21:47 | library_systems_guy | I have a design question if anybody is working this weekend |
| 21:47 | Why do all of the body of the koha pages span the entire page instead of allowing dynamic sizing easily | |
| 21:51 | also would anybody be interested in me adding a navigation bar under the header? | |
| 21:52 | magnuse | library_systems_guy: sounds like you should have a chat with oleonard when he is around ;-) |
| 21:53 | library_systems_guy | haha ill have to catch him on monday. I added navigation for our page but i am afraid to commit it since im the new guy. |
| 21:54 | magnuse | well there's no harming in sending a patch |
| 21:54 | it's a good starting point for a discussion | |
| 21:54 | library_systems_guy | thats true, and I seem to start quite a few of those :p |
| 21:56 | magnuse | good! ;-) |
| 21:57 | library_systems_guy | so is oleonard the guy that does a lot of the display stuff? |
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| 22:00 | magnuse | library_systems_guy, yep, he's the web ui guru :-) |
| 22:04 | library_systems_guy | ok I'll attack him when he gets back on |
| 22:05 | magnuse | hehe |
| 22:09 | library_systems_guy, are you adding navigation bar to the opac? | |
| 22:09 | library_systems_guy | yes |
| 22:09 | i was just going to use the breadcrumb but i noticed that it was in use in several places | |
| 22:10 | magnuse | hm |
| 22:11 | library_systems_guy | i've actually done quite a bit of re-arranging of elements in the opac header to maybe make it easier to edit |
| 22:13 | magnuse | souonds interesting |
| 22:13 | library_systems_guy | yeah I guess we'll see what oleonard thinks |
| 22:13 | magnuse | i think having a layout that can easily be altered with css is A Good Thing :-) |
| 22:13 | have you got a public opac that has your changes? | |
| 22:14 | library_systems_guy | umm this one isn't public but i can send you a screenshot if you'd like |
| 22:14 | magnuse | cait++ |
| 22:14 | for signing off on lots of patches | |
| 22:14 | library_systems_guy | w00t cait |
| 22:15 | magnuse | library_systems_guy, that would be cool |
| 22:18 | library_systems_guy | give me one sec to upload it to m site and ill get you a link |
| 22:19 | http://library.uttyler.edu/Koha.png | |
| 22:19 | magnuse | cool |
| 22:19 | library_systems_guy | keep in mind i just started this yesterday |
| 22:19 | so it still needs a lot of work | |
| 22:19 | lol | |
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| 22:21 | library_guy | closed the wrong window oops |
| 22:22 | magnuse | hehe |
| 22:22 | that looks cool | |
| 22:22 | library_guy | thanks |
| 22:22 | ill see if i can have a public link available before i talk to oleonard | |
| 22:22 | magnuse | always interesting to see how folks are changing the look of the opac |
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| 22:23 | magnuse | i'm sure he'll be intersted to have a look |
| 22:25 | library_guy | indeed...I keep trying to see who else has the koha opac pretty customized |
| 22:27 | magnuse | i was thinking we could have a page on the wiki that listed customized opacs, but havn't gotten around to starting one yet |
| 22:27 | library_guy | well yesterday we were talking about easier ways to theme the opac |
| 22:27 | using SOPAC is rather complicated | |
| 22:28 | magnuse | ooh, goody |
| 22:28 | yeah, any "alternative interface" will probably be some work | |
| 22:30 | library_guy | yeah exactly, have you ever used drupal or wordpress? |
| 22:32 | magnuse | yup |
| 22:33 | library_guy | i was hoping for some theming like those systems implement |
| 22:34 | magnuse | having themes like them would be cool, but i cant really see enough people having enough time to implement it |
| 22:34 | it might require some work on abstraction first, so underlying things could change without every theme needing an update | |
| 22:35 | library_guy | yeah abstraction would be key |
| 22:35 | so I don't really see it happening anytime soon | |
| 22:35 | magnuse | and there is quite a lot that can be done with css and jquery |
| 22:36 | but hey, it's good to have some lofty goals too :-) | |
| 22:36 | library_guy | yes, that is how i started doing stuff |
| 22:37 | well i guess technically you could change everything from jquery if it has an id or some way to traverse to it | |
| 22:38 | magnuse | yeah, pretty much |
| 22:38 | but that's more for quick hacks than for doing major mods, i think... | |
| 22:39 | library_guy | yes exactly...oh the hax |
| 22:44 | good talking to you magnuse, im taking my girlfriend out to dinner so ill ttyl | |
| 22:45 | magnuse | good plan! |
| 22:45 | see ya! | |
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| 22:58 | magnuse | o/ |
| 22:59 | druthb | Hi, magnus! |
| 22:59 | magnuse | hiya druthb |
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| 23:11 | magnuse | g'night #koha |
| 23:11 | magnuse is now known as magnus_away |
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