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| 00:50 | chrisc_stdc joined #koha | |
| 00:51 | chrisc_stdc | hi everybody |
| 00:52 | @marc 200 | |
| 00:52 | huginn | chrisc_stdc: unknown tag 200 |
| 00:52 | chrisc_stdc | @marc 245 |
| 00:52 | huginn | chrisc_stdc: The title and statement of responsibility area of the bibliographic description of a work. [a,b,c,f,g,h,k,n,p,s,6,8] |
| 00:53 | mtj | heya chris |
| 00:53 | chrisc_stdc | heya hows wellington? |
| 00:53 | mtj | whats stdc? |
| 00:53 | ah, click… ;) | |
| 00:53 | chrisc_stdc | south taranaki district council |
| 00:53 | mtj | very nice thanks |
| 00:53 | eythian | chrisc_stdc: hiya |
| 00:53 | wellington is nice | |
| 00:54 | how's things going there | |
| 00:54 | chrisc_stdc | eythian: you doing a data load? |
| 00:54 | eythian | nope |
| 00:54 | chrisc_stdc | good, im on the big screen so be nice |
| 00:54 | eythian | Have no plans to do one today unless they ask for it |
| 00:54 | chrisc_stdc | cool |
| 00:54 | * eythian | hacks some templates |
| 00:54 | eythian | (just for the big-screen demo) |
| 00:55 | anyone got dodgy photos of chris they can contribute? :) | |
| 00:55 | mtj | ooooh, big screen, sounds like training... |
| 00:56 | nope, just *orsum* ones here.. ;) | |
| 00:56 | * space_librarian | smothers a giggle |
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| 00:57 | mtj | man, is charlie sheen high, or what? |
| 00:57 | http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/13167959 | |
| 00:58 | btw, thats a rhetorical question | |
| 00:58 | eythian | mtj: what is that? |
| 00:59 | mtj | charlie sheens webcast/blog thingy |
| 00:59 | space_librarian | wow |
| 01:00 | mtj | 'sheens korner' streaming from the tubes |
| 01:00 | eythian | Oh. He looks like the start of a rock musician who's going to end up 60 and made of leather. (trying to think of an example, but failing.) |
| 01:01 | mtj | pssst: keith richards |
| 01:01 | eythian | that's exactly who I was trying to think of, I got stuck at Keith Rogers, knowing that wasn't right |
| 01:02 | mtj | who new charlie sheen was a beat poet…. |
| 01:03 | eythian | I couldn't really keep watching it |
| 01:03 | * mtj | pulls out the beret and bongos |
| 01:04 | mtj | good call, the next installment is way better |
| 01:05 | ive just done 6 months worth of invoicing, so im feeling a bit 'jaunty' | |
| 01:05 | well, 4 months really.. | |
| 01:06 | eythian | Jaunty Jackalope? |
| 01:06 | mtj | jaunty bank account-a-lope |
| 01:07 | eythian | that'll do I suppose. |
| 01:07 | mtj | i might splurge on some new tape for my glasses |
| 01:08 | ok, gotta head home.... | |
| 01:09 | ciao folks | |
| 01:09 | eythian | yeah, I gotta do work :) |
| 01:09 | later | |
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| 03:30 | kmkale | Namaskar #koha |
| 03:30 | mtj | namaste kmkale |
| 03:33 | kmkale | hi mtj :) |
| 03:34 | space_librarian | hi kmkale! |
| 03:34 | kmkale | hi space_librarian |
| 03:35 | does anyone have an idea about while doing bulk import using bulkmarcimport.pl if I use -isbn does it still add items? | |
| 03:40 | mtj | pass, ive never seen the isbn flag, must be new |
| 03:41 | kmkale | thing is I have always used the web based manage marc records stuff. |
| 03:42 | This time when I try to de duplicate with isbn rule, it refuses to move beyond 0%. Left it overnight but no go | |
| 03:42 | eythian | kmkale: it should still add, just not add things with a matching ISBN |
| 03:43 | I don't know why it'd get stuck though | |
| 03:43 | kmkale | I checked in db. No entries in either biblio, biblioitems, items tables with the web based manage-marc-import.pl. |
| 03:44 | Wanted to know if bulkmarcimport.pl will still add items for a bib match found on isbn | |
| 03:45 | eythian | I don't think it will, according to the documenation. It'll skip those ones. |
| 03:45 | mtj | kmkale: it looks like it should, from the code |
| 03:45 | kmkale | ok. running it now. on a test db :) |
| 03:45 | mtj | ahh, its an isbn *skip* option.... |
| 03:46 | yeah, eythian++ | |
| 03:46 | kmkale | :( |
| 03:46 | so no items added? the web based one has an option to still add items. | |
| 03:46 | mtj | try a diff web-browser too |
| 03:47 | eythian | ahh, I understand your question now. I don't think it does that. |
| 03:47 | mtj | i have had occasional 0% glitches with the web import |
| 03:47 | eythian | Someone� should give it an option to merge. |
| 03:47 | mtj | yep |
| 03:48 | kmkale | 15052 MARC records done in 220.646286010742 seconds that was fast. lets check about items now |
| 03:53 | looks like it added 11659 biblios and 15103 items. running zebra rebuild. lets search and check after that. | |
| 03:54 | but something fishy about the items | |
| 03:54 | and I must manually check on duplicate number of isbn's to see if 11659 is correct | |
| 04:11 | ok. It did not import items for isbn matches. Thats too bad.. | |
| 04:13 | eythian | yeah, I'm not really surprised by that |
| 04:16 | kmkale | trying web import with chromium. |
| 04:17 | I can see a www-data owned background job running but the browser is stuck at 0% and no entries in the db :( | |
| 04:23 | running 3.03.00.019 with perl 5.10.1 on ubuntu 10.10 | |
| 04:40 | bug 5847 | |
| 04:40 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5847 critical, P1, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Manage Staged MARC Records stuck at 0% if isbn matching rule selected. |
| 04:41 | kmkale | bbl |
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| 05:10 | cait | hi #koha |
| 05:16 | space_librarian | hi cait |
| 05:17 | cait | hi space_librarian |
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| 08:15 | kf | hi #koha |
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| 09:05 | kf | marcelr++ |
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| 09:37 | kf | hi kmkale and paul_p |
| 09:37 | kmkale | hi kf |
| 09:37 | hi paul_p | |
| 09:42 | slef | @later tell nengard (or anyone else) I'd like to help update the FAQ about serials. I'd need to gather questions. Do you have any tips on the best way? |
| 09:42 | huginn | slef: The operation succeeded. |
| 09:58 | kf | paul_p: we are doing acq training today and have a few problems - do you know the state of the acq branch integration? |
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| 10:12 | hdl | kf: it should be ongoing work |
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| 10:38 | paul_p | hello kf |
| 10:39 | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5580 | |
| 10:39 | huginn | 04Bug 5580: enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED, BibLibre acq improvements for 3.4 |
| 10:40 | kf | thx paul |
| 10:40 | I think I will spend a lot of time with this next week | |
| 10:40 | ah, chris has not splitted it into bugs yet | |
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| 11:20 | druthb | good morning, #koha |
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| 11:21 | slef | good morning. Just. |
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| 12:02 | kmkale | @quote random |
| 12:02 | huginn | kmkale: Quote #100: "chris: well, one of them is overhauling the whole templating system jcamins: Koha's other swiss army chainsaw" (added by wizzyrea at 07:41 PM, October 11, 2010) |
| 12:13 | druthb_away is now known as druthb | |
| 12:13 | druthb | @quote random |
| 12:13 | huginn | druthb: Quote #114: "chris_n: maybe you mean black magic with reference to zebra? ;-) ; wizzyrea: correction: black magic of zebra :D ; sekjal: correction: black and white striped magic of zebra .... ; rhcl: zebra sounds like a skunk ; chris_n thinks is may smell occasionally too, like a pole cat." (added by wizzyrea at 04:49 PM, January 18, 2011) |
| 12:16 | kmkale | gmcharlt: around? |
| 12:16 | slef: around? | |
| 12:17 | slef | kmkale: yes |
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| 12:24 | kmkale | Gotta run. bbl |
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| 14:26 | * druthb | reaches into her toolbox for the Velcro. |
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| 15:06 | Guest4049 is now known as wizzyrea | |
| 15:10 | druthb | mornin, Liz! |
| 15:10 | wizzyrea | mornin :) |
| 15:11 | SharonNEKLS | Hi all. One of our libraries would like a Fines paid report in Koha. I tried tweaking the one I created in Harley yesterday, but somehow broke it. |
| 15:11 | SELECT round(Sum(accountlines.amount),2) AS 'Fines Paid', borrowers.cardnumber, borrowers.surname, borrowers.branchcode FROM accountlines LEFT JOIN borrowers ON (accountlines.borrowernumber=borrowers.borrowernumber) WHERE (accounttype = 'PAY' ) AND date = (now() - interval 1 day) GROUP BY borrowers.branchcode | |
| 15:11 | see anything obvious? A difference b/w Harley and Koha, maybe? | |
| 15:13 | druthb | You got nothing back, right, SharonNEKLS? |
| 15:13 | SharonNEKLS | nope, nada back on that one in Koha. |
| 15:13 | druthb | Try with accounttype= "Pay" instead of accounttype="PAY". Spelling counts. ;-) |
| 15:14 | SharonNEKLS | OK |
| 15:14 | if I put in date BETWEEN '2011-03-03' AND '2011-03-06' it works. | |
| 15:14 | druthb | (To mysql, that's a different word.") |
| 15:15 | hm....instead of the date= clause, try date >= DATE_SUB(NOW(),INTERVAL 1 DAY) | |
| 15:15 | SharonNEKLS | will do |
| 15:16 | That did it! My libraries will be happy to know they can see how much $$ they brought in yesterday | |
| 15:18 | works even better if I group by cardnumber...thank you! | |
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| 15:21 | * druthb | smiles happily. |
| 15:32 | rhcl_away | what's the token separator for entering tags in the OPAC? |
| 15:33 | rhcl_away is now known as rhcl | |
| 15:33 | Ahmuck-Sr | [2011-03-10 09:25] <SharonNEKLS> That did it! My libraries will be happy to know they can see how much $$ they brought in yesterday - really? |
| 15:34 | wizzyrea | mym |
| 15:34 | mhm | |
| 15:34 | Ahmuck-Sr | is library revenue based on fines? |
| 15:34 | wizzyrea | not all of it |
| 15:34 | certainly some | |
| 15:35 | Ahmuck-Sr | shouldn't fine revenue be "extra" rather than a budget base for income? |
| 15:35 | it's almost like we "hope" they get fines | |
| 15:35 | wizzyrea | sure |
| 15:35 | in an ideal world | |
| 15:36 | Ahmuck-Sr | so were commercializing our libraries? |
| 15:36 | gmcharlt | Ahmuck-Sr: that's too strong of a statement |
| 15:36 | more accurate, at least in the US, is that a lot of public libraries are getting less tax and public support | |
| 15:36 | Ahmuck-Sr | commercialization comes in all forms, usually small at first |
| 15:36 | gmcharlt | than they used to (or ought to) |
| 15:36 | Ahmuck-Sr | why less public support |
| 15:37 | perhaps a pbs raise for the library fund option? | |
| 15:38 | btw, last time i was at the library, seems like a lot of pulp fiction. i can recall attending the library and learning all types of scientific material. i assume the public is no longer interested in education? | |
| 15:39 | gmcharlt | libraries serve a lot of public needs |
| 15:39 | and entertainment reading is a valid one | |
| 15:39 | to characterize it as a lack of public interest in education? not necessarily | |
| 15:40 | as far as loss of public moneys? lot's of reasons, including consequences of the recession that have it a lot of states and localties hard | |
| 15:40 | political issues in some cases | |
| 15:40 | on the other hand, a lot of libraries see an increase (sometimes a significant one) in usage during recessions | |
| 15:41 | so a lot of libraries get caught in the problem of being asked to provide more services at exactly the same time that they are getting less tax revenue | |
| 15:42 | so ... yes, in an ideal world, libraries shouldn't (or shouldn't have to) consider fines as part of their budgets | |
| 15:42 | * Ahmuck-Sr | grew up in the NEKLS system |
| 15:42 | Ahmuck-Sr | how many libraries are in the NEKLS system? |
| 15:42 | gmcharlt | but it wouldn't surprise me if there were at least a few libraries in the US were fine money is keeping a staff member employed, or mkaing the difference between being open five days a week instead of four |
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| 15:43 | * Ahmuck-Sr | has considered opening a private library |
| 15:45 | wizzyrea | Ahmuck-Sr: you'll really love this then: http://boingboing.net/2011/03/[…]ia-libraries.html |
| 15:45 | 46 publics | |
| 15:45 | !!! | |
| 15:45 | * wizzyrea | recognizes yet again what a small world it is |
| 15:45 | is from NEKLS | |
| 15:45 | wizzyrea | :) |
| 15:46 | Ahmuck-Sr | ya, i was aware u were liz :) |
| 15:46 | there was this book in Horton, that i would always check out. seemed i was the only one. it showed you how to build this device where you put your hands on it and it makes your hair stand up like in science class | |
| 15:46 | wizzyrea | hehe |
| 15:47 | horton is in NExpress | |
| 15:47 | Ahmuck-Sr | eventually when i got older i asked if i could buy the book and they let me, as no one had checked it out in 8 years |
| 15:47 | ah | |
| 15:47 | wizzyrea | hehe that's fun |
| 15:47 | Ahmuck-Sr | separate from NEKLS ? |
| 15:47 | wizzyrea | nope |
| 15:47 | NExpress is the NEKLS shared automation system | |
| 15:49 | Ahmuck-Sr | ah |
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| 15:50 | Ahmuck-Sr | i'm surprised that libraires don't have fund drives like PBS |
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| 15:51 | wizzyrea | maybe they should |
| 15:51 | * Ahmuck-Sr | watched the video |
| 15:51 | gmcharlt | indirectly some do via their friends groups |
| 15:51 | wizzyrea | ^^ |
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| 15:51 | rhcl | Ahmuk: yea, they should |
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| 15:54 | rhcl | huggin: go fetch me bug 2495 |
| 15:54 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2495 enhancement, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Currently no way to correct a typo in an authority controlled bib tag $a in Koha |
| 15:54 | rhcl | Is anybody working on bug 2495? |
| 15:54 | Ahmuck-Sr | is there a way to connect private library collections via koha? |
| 15:56 | one of the best books i picked up at a coffee shop, a "pick up take with you read and then drop off somewhere else" book | |
| 16:07 | rhcl | http://www.bookcrossing.com/ |
| 16:14 | wizzyrea | rhcl: how funny, kind of like those geocaching tag thingies |
| 16:14 | where you can trace your tag from geocache to geocache | |
| 16:14 | Ahmuck-Sr | or letterboxing |
| 16:14 | wizzyrea | ah ya letterboxing |
| 16:15 | Ahmuck-Sr | well, back to work |
| 16:15 | rhcl | we did the bookcrossing thing once a number of years ago--got some interesting reports |
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| 17:17 | wizzyrea | rhcl did you tell me you were having trouble with the title search in koha? |
| 17:21 | rhcl | is that a multiple choice question? I can't remember if I said that. |
| 17:21 | wizzyrea | heh |
| 17:21 | if you were to search for something like "the duke and I" or "K is for killer" | |
| 17:21 | rhcl | I know that with the word "the" for search will change results when used/not used |
| 17:21 | wizzyrea | would you get a result in your catalog |
| 17:22 | rhcl | I don't specifically remember that I asked about anything like your two examples |
| 17:23 | and my librarians to have grief with the differences when searching using "the" | |
| 17:23 | to/do | |
| 17:24 | True or False: | |
| 17:24 | "Patrons are able to renew their inter-library loans themselves when logged into their account on the OPAC" | |
| 17:25 | wizzyrea | true, depending on your setup |
| 17:25 | you can certainly set rules that make ILL itypes non-renewable | |
| 17:25 | rhcl | how do we enable "false" |
| 17:25 | wizzyrea | so only staff can override |
| 17:25 | rhcl | yes yes, how to do? |
| 17:26 | wizzyrea | administration -> circ and fine rules |
| 17:26 | add a rule for your ILL itype | |
| 17:26 | that has 0 renewals | |
| 17:26 | then make sure that you have the pref for "allow renewal override" | |
| 17:26 | set | |
| 17:27 | that way staff can override, but patrons can't | |
| 17:27 | rhcl | perfect perfect |
| 17:32 | we don't see "allow renewal override" | |
| 17:32 | wizzyrea | AllowRenewalLimitOverride |
| 17:32 | ? | |
| 17:33 | under circulation preferences? | |
| 17:34 | you can just search "renewal" too | |
| 17:37 | rhcl | are you still on harley? We can't quite follow you for this on our system |
| 17:37 | wizzyrea | nope, we are on koha |
| 17:37 | what version? | |
| 17:37 | are you on | |
| 17:37 | jcamins_away | wizzyrea: is that the one I added? |
| 17:38 | I added a couple of *Override sysprefs very recently. | |
| 17:38 | wizzyrea | jcamins_away: I don't know! |
| 17:38 | maybe? | |
| 17:38 | * jcamins_away | should probably remember. But he doesn't. |
| 17:38 | wizzyrea | I didn't think it was that new |
| 17:39 | rhcl | 3.03.00.010 |
| 17:39 | wizzyrea | oh yea def not that new |
| 17:39 | it must be in there rhcl | |
| 17:39 | rhcl | harumpff |
| 17:39 | jcamins_away | rhcl: check Local Preferences... the syspref search can get a little wonky and miss those. |
| 17:39 | wizzyrea | http://screencast.com/t/j8qqPLUUPJv |
| 17:40 | when i searched for "renew" | |
| 17:40 | in the search | |
| 17:40 | I got bit by that local-use thing a few days ago | |
| 17:43 | rhcl | OK, under checkout policy, got it by search |
| 17:44 | thanks all! removes a line item from my complaint checklist! | |
| 17:44 | wizzyrea | ^.^ yay! |
| 17:44 | i like it when that happens | |
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| 18:11 | kohaneew | hey, how yalll? |
| 18:13 | cait | hi kohaneew |
| 18:15 | kohaneew | i'm having a problem with adding a book, when i try to access to set "100 ? - MAIN ENTRY--PERSONAL NAME − " the field is locked not editable |
| 18:15 | jcamins_away | kohaneew: you need to change your syspref "BiblioAddsAuthorities" (or something like that). |
| 18:15 | kohaneew | ok let me take a look at that |
| 18:18 | i did the change but i think the lock is still there but the field seem editable | |
| 18:19 | eric_b is now known as ebegin | |
| 18:19 | jcamins_away | Yes. |
| 18:19 | The lock indicates authority control. | |
| 18:19 | Not "uneditable." | |
| 18:20 | I keep on meaning to file a bug report that that's confusing. | |
| 18:24 | kohaneew | ok |
| 18:24 | thx | |
| 18:29 | jcamins_away | Is the 751 field authority-controlled? |
| 18:32 | Bigger question: is the 751 even included in the frameworks that come with Koha? | |
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| 18:42 | slef | ooh, I like the look of this http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Special:OpenIDLogin can we have it on the k-c wiki? |
| 18:42 | jcamins_away: grep the frameworks sql? | |
| 18:43 | jcamins_away | slef: yeah, I'll do that when I'm at home. |
| 18:43 | Oh, wait. | |
| 18:43 | I can do that on this server, too. | |
| 18:44 | Nope. | |
| 18:45 | gmcharlt | slef: yes, we can have this on the k-c wiki tonight |
| 18:45 | jcamins_away | Oh, looks like I already reported this bug. |
| 18:47 | slef | gmcharlt: *dances* I might think people should avoid Google/Yahoo/AOL, but let's at least make G/Y/A do some user registration for us :) |
| 18:47 | gmcharlt: thank you! | |
| 18:47 | gmcharlt | slef: you're welcome |
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| 19:05 | rhcl | wizzyrea: going back and looking at your earlier question: |
| 19:05 | A search for "K is for killer" produces the correct title at the top of a list, followed by 7,320,201 totally irrelevant items. | |
| 19:05 | So that works "mostly". | |
| 19:15 | wizzyrea | ah k |
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| 20:53 | sekjal_away | goodnight, #koha! |
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| 21:00 | wizzyrea | curious: what am I losing by turning of query stemming, in a practical sense? (I understand things like exception would bring up except) |
| 21:01 | (if stemming is on) | |
| 21:01 | cait | hm |
| 21:01 | I only tested it very shortly a long while ago | |
| 21:02 | wizzyrea | we were having trouble getting results for titles that had single letters |
| 21:02 | titles such as "the duke and I" or "an apple a day" | |
| 21:02 | bring back no results | |
| 21:03 | with stemming off, they work marvellously | |
| 21:03 | cait | ah |
| 21:03 | I think stemming does not work with icu - but not sure | |
| 21:03 | wizzyrea | I can't even begin to know how to put that in a bug report |
| 21:04 | or how to look to see if it's already a bug | |
| 21:04 | cait | examples perhaps |
| 21:04 | wizzyrea | oh that could be |
| 21:04 | stemming !like ICU | |
| 21:06 | cait | I am not entirely sure - could check my settings at work tomrorow |
| 21:07 | wizzyrea | I think we're ok for now, searches with single letters work again |
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| 21:07 | wizzyrea | seems like searches with single letters *should* work with stemming though... |
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| 21:15 | rangi_stdc | eythian: about? |
| 21:16 | cait | hi rangi |
| 21:16 | rangi_stdc | @later tell eythian i think we are missing the message_transport table data (or something like that) |
| 21:16 | huginn | rangi_stdc: The operation succeeded. |
| 21:16 | rangi_stdc | heya cait |
| 21:16 | * wizzyrea | blinks |
| 21:16 | * rangi_stdc | goes back to training |
| 21:16 | wizzyrea | it's a rangi sighting! |
| 21:17 | cait | lol |
| 21:17 | good luck with training :) | |
| 21:17 | wizzyrea | Tell the librarians hi from us :) |
| 21:17 | cait | good idea :) |
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| 22:05 | wizzyrea | @later tell oleonard: This made me laugh, and you may laugh too: http://vimeo.com/19131028 |
| 22:05 | huginn | wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. |
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| 23:40 | * druthb | peeks in |
| 23:45 | druthb | @seen Brooke_ |
| 23:45 | huginn | druthb: Brooke_ was last seen in #koha 1 day, 2 hours, 53 minutes, and 14 seconds ago: <Brooke_> namaskar |
| 23:45 | * druthb | nods. |
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