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| 00:19 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 12 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 00:21 | Project Koha_master build #12: SUCCESS in 2 mn 33 s: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_master/12/ | |
| 00:23 | Starting build 13 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) | |
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| 00:31 | Starting build 14 for job Koha_master (previous build: FAILURE -- last SUCCESS #12 12 mn ago) | |
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| 00:37 | Starting build 15 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL FAILING -- last SUCCESS #12 18 mn ago) | |
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| 01:08 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #15: UNSTABLE in 31 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_master/15/ |
| 01:13 | * jcamins | is within walking distance of the Zoo!!!! |
| 01:16 | rangi | !jenkins build Koha_master now |
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| 01:18 | wizzyrea_ | he doesn't like taking orders I guess |
| 01:18 | rangi | heh |
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| 01:19 | jcamins | Either that or he was offended that the zoo got three exclamation marks and he only got one. |
| 01:19 | druthb | hi, wizzyrea_ :) |
| 01:19 | wizzyrea_ | hi there |
| 01:20 | rangi | !jenkins build Koha_master now |
| 01:20 | jenkins_koha | rangi: job Koha_master build scheduled now |
| 01:20 | Starting build 16 for job Koha_master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #12 1 h 0 mn ago) | |
| 01:21 | jcamins | My wife asks if Harry Potter is still popular with teens... does anyone know? |
| 01:21 | druthb | very. |
| 01:21 | bg | twilight I'd guess |
| 01:21 | wizzyrea_ | afaik, yea |
| 01:21 | druthb | my teen laughs at the goofiness of twilight. |
| 01:21 | space_librarian | last movie comes out in June |
| 01:22 | wizzyrea_ | well harry potter keeps sucking in younger kids |
| 01:22 | druthb | but she fangirls all *over* Daniel Radcliffe. |
| 01:22 | wizzyrea_ | bc the first one is easy |
| 01:22 | and they get progressively harder | |
| 01:22 | (and longer, obviously) | |
| 01:23 | druthb: did she like the books? | |
| 01:23 | druthb | she did. (as did I) |
| 01:23 | rangi | i havent seen a movie or read one of the books |
| 01:23 | for either harry potter or twilight | |
| 01:23 | space_librarian | you're not missing anything on Twilight |
| 01:23 | wizzyrea_ | I was resistant to harry potter at first |
| 01:23 | eythian | I saw a couple of the movies, but in my defence I had a girlfriend who made me do it. |
| 01:23 | wizzyrea_ | but i read the first one and it was actually good |
| 01:23 | eythian | (the harry potter ones, that is) |
| 01:24 | bg | heh I've read both and watched all the movies |
| 01:24 | druthb | I saw part of the first Twilight movie, and that was all I can stand. |
| 01:24 | wizzyrea_ | bg: same here |
| 01:24 | I read the last book in 15 hours >.> | |
| 01:24 | bg | actually loved them - but vampires don't sparkle |
| 01:24 | * jcamins | read and watched Harry Potter. Not Twilight, though. |
| 01:24 | space_librarian | no, vampires shouldn't sparkle |
| 01:24 | wizzyrea_ | I haven't touched twiligt |
| 01:24 | bg | decent new vampire-ish book - is "the passage" |
| 01:24 | wizzyrea_ | well that's not true, I have had to pick it up in the library occasionally |
| 01:25 | and it was my default search | |
| 01:25 | for a while | |
| 01:25 | space_librarian | I have always been a BtVS and Christopher Pike/Anne Rice vampire person... |
| 01:25 | * jcamins | actually read Harry Potter before they become popular. His grandmother gave him one of the advance copies they gave out to librarians in an effort to sell the book in the States. |
| 01:25 | bg | yeah Anne Rice ones are good |
| 01:29 | wizzyrea_ | i liked christopher pike |
| 01:30 | rangi | http://failbook.failblog.org/2[…]lf-or-dumbledore/ |
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| 01:33 | wizzyrea_ | lol |
| 01:36 | jcamins | Okay, that's it for me. |
| 01:36 | Good night, #koha | |
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| 01:51 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #16: STILL UNSTABLE in 31 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_master/16/ |
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| 03:13 | eythian | # FIXME - I'm not at all sure about the above, because I don't |
| 03:13 | # understand what the acct* tables in the Koha database are for. | |
| 03:13 | s | |
| 03:13 | hmm... | |
| 03:13 | they are woefully undocumented. | |
| 03:16 | is the 'accountoffsets' table used, anyone know? | |
| 03:16 | and if so, does anyone know how it's used? | |
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| 03:19 | space_librarian | from the looks of things, its not used (generally) |
| 03:19 | eythian | where are you looking? |
| 03:19 | space_librarian | the mail archive? |
| 03:19 | eythian | ah right |
| 03:19 | in that case, I can ignore it :) | |
| 03:19 | space_librarian | from 2007 |
| 03:20 | eythian | it's used in the code, but I'm not sure if the functions using it are ever used. |
| 03:20 | bg | blow up acct* tables :) |
| 03:20 | space_librarian | and they were ignoring it in 2006 on the irc logs... |
| 03:20 | eythian | well, there's an RFC to rewrite how they work, which I'm looking forward to. |
| 03:21 | accountlines is used however. I'm just figuring out how to get similar-but-different data out of liberty and into koha. | |
| 03:21 | space_librarian | ouch. That's a little on the tricky side |
| 03:22 | eythian | it is, as koha's internal way of doing accounts is a bit special. |
| 03:22 | space_librarian | oh, here we go "accountoffsets is an old, obsolete table that was used to track payments and increases in fines in the accountlines table. Parts of Koha still update it, but its information is not displayed anywhere." |
| 03:23 | eythian | ah, good to know. |
| 03:23 | If I end up involved in the RFC implementation, I may have to make sure it's deleted. | |
| 03:23 | space_librarian | make note of it, so you don't forget |
| 03:24 | eythian | it won't get forgotten :) |
| 03:25 | bg | which RFC are you referring to? |
| 03:27 | eythian | Not sure, I just seem to recall it being mentioned. |
| 03:28 | possibly internally | |
| 03:28 | or, I'm confusing it with something else. | |
| 03:28 | bg | ah ok |
| 03:28 | I think the same here :) | |
| 03:32 | rangi | Deleting it is precisely the wrong thing to do |
| 03:32 | Using that table is the right thing | |
| 03:33 | Unbreaking it | |
| 03:33 | eythian | hmm. I think fixing the accounts system, whether by using the table or not. More importantly however is documenting the table structure so that code to interact with it can be made. |
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| 03:35 | rangi | the original accounts system was set up under the scrutiny of a financial auditor |
| 03:35 | And contained the trail of information they need | |
| 03:35 | eythian | It's not possible to tell whether that's the case, because it's not explained anywhere. |
| 03:35 | rangi | It was |
| 03:35 | eythian | And so anyone modifying it wouldn't know how to keep that trail intact. |
| 03:36 | rangi | Ppl deleted that also |
| 03:36 | eythian | It's not in C4::Accounts, which is where I'd expect to find it. |
| 03:36 | rangi | I repeat |
| 03:36 | Ppl deleted that also | |
| 03:36 | Whole subroutines | |
| 03:36 | With doc and perldoc | |
| 03:37 | somewhere between 2.0 and 2.2 | |
| 03:37 | eythian | how strange. It looks like there's been an attempt to redo it, but by someone who was just looking at the code, so it's not complete. |
| 03:39 | rangi | Back in the cvs days, a few mental things were done |
| 03:39 | The price of having many committers | |
| 03:40 | eythian | yeah. |
| 03:41 | rangi | What auditors want is a trail of every transaction |
| 03:42 | Accountoffsets was that | |
| 03:42 | eythian | that's accountlines, isn't it? |
| 03:42 | rangi | Nope |
| 03:43 | What it lacks is the linking of a charge to the payment | |
| 03:44 | It has the payment, and a charge | |
| 03:44 | eythian | yeah. accountlines has a track of everything, but it goes back and modifies the 'outstanding' value on old entries, which I don't like. |
| 03:45 | rangi | But you can't tell what payment changed the charge |
| 03:45 | eythian | yeah |
| 03:45 | It also has this accountno thing, which I'm currently trying to figure out. | |
| 03:46 | rangi | that was the primary key |
| 03:46 | eythian | oh. I don't think it is now |
| 03:46 | rangi | And how you found the offsets to it, from accountoffsets |
| 03:46 | eythian | it's like something that links a set of transactions, or something like that. |
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| 03:47 | rangi | Yeah its on the list to fix |
| 03:47 | There is a wr branch that fixes the tables, (puts keys back) | |
| 03:48 | The start of the rewrite | |
| 03:48 | Right time to pack down | |
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| 03:49 | eythian | ah cool |
| 03:50 | ebegin | I'm sure I saw the sql database structure on koha-community lately but i can remember where... |
| 04:29 | brendan_ | evening :) |
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| 04:31 | chris_n | heya brendan_ |
| 04:31 | kmkale | Namaskar #koha |
| 04:32 | chris_n | fancy underscore there :) |
| 04:32 | hi kmkale | |
| 04:32 | kmkale | hi chris_n |
| 04:32 | better change the topic for # koha ;) | |
| 04:33 | brendan_ | heya chris_n :) been awhile... hello kmkale :) |
| 04:33 | kmkale | hi brendan_ |
| 04:33 | chris_n | next meeting is Apr 5? |
| 04:34 | brendan_ | I thought maybe the 6th? |
| 04:34 | not sure though | |
| 04:36 | kmkale | April 6th 10.00 utc |
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| 04:39 | * chris_n | shakes his fist at bip |
| 04:39 | Topic for #koha is now Koha 3.2.5 is now available | Next IRC meeting 6 Apr. 2011 10:00 UTC+0 | http://koha-community.org | This channel is logged | Pastes at http://paste.koha-community.org | |
| 04:43 | eythian | oh. (borrowernumber,accountno) is effectively a key. How'd I not see that. |
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| 04:55 | rhcl_home | rangi: you on? |
| 04:56 | I wonder where Marc would put a publication license? | |
| 04:56 | http://collegeopentextbooks.or[…]ct/chemistry.html | |
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| 05:02 | rhcl_home | Just as an example (emphasize example only), I wonder if the following link has Marc-able info, and therefore possible inclusion in a library ebook collection? |
| 05:02 | http://upload.wikimedia.org/wi[…]nd_Government.pdf | |
| 05:04 | Aah, everybody's asleep. I should be too. | |
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| 05:16 | * kmkale | waves at druthb & paul_p |
| 05:16 | druthb | Namaste, kmkale. |
| 05:16 | paul_p | hi kmkale (6am here) |
| 05:17 | kmkale | wow paul_p |
| 05:17 | Namaskar druthb | |
| 05:17 | brendan_ | morning paul_p |
| 05:17 | paul_p | hello late americans ;-) |
| 05:17 | druthb | bonjour, paul_p. :) |
| 05:17 | eythian | hello late Europeans ;-) |
| 05:18 | paul_p | eythian, nope, it's early europeans :D |
| 05:18 | kmkale | wonder if you have a git install at hand to check the text description of itemBarcodeInputFilter syspref |
| 05:18 | eythian | paul_p: but it's already been 6am here, therefore you're late :) |
| 05:19 | paul_p | lol |
| 05:19 | kmkale | does it say |scanned item barcodes| or "scanned patron barcodes" |
| 05:20 | * paul_p | tired to delete 3-5 spams every morning on the wiki... |
| 05:30 | kmkale | bbl |
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| 06:41 | cait | morning #koha |
| 06:44 | snail | morning cait |
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| 06:46 | cait | hi snail and kmkale |
| 06:49 | kmkale | hi cait |
| 07:10 | indradg | kmkale, happy birthday! :) |
| 07:17 | kmkale | indradg: Its not my birthday |
| 07:22 | cait | ah, good I waited |
| 07:22 | mine was yesterday :) | |
| 07:28 | indradg | cait, belated happy birthday! |
| 07:28 | kmkale, well then... way in advance then :) | |
| 07:28 | kmkale | :) thatks indradg |
| 07:28 | cait | thx indradg :) |
| 07:28 | kmkale | and belated happy b'day cait |
| 07:29 | cait | kmkale: :) |
| 07:29 | I just checked the syspref table - there it says item barcode (not patron barcode) | |
| 07:30 | kmkale | yup. I did too on my git install but was not sure if i had a lingering patch |
| 07:30 | cait | kmkale: but I think the description was not changed in update and perhaps pref file? |
| 07:31 | kmkale | so i think i can squash that bug 5417 |
| 07:31 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5417 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED, System Preference page for itemBarcodeInputFilter text is "scanned patron barcodes." |
| 07:31 | cait | did you check the pref file? |
| 07:34 | * kmkale | is checking |
| 07:36 | cait | sorry, have to run - don't want to be late at work |
| 07:36 | bbl :) | |
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| 07:38 | kmkale | @later tell kf Yes its changed in koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/admin/preferences/circulation.pref in the patch for 5418 |
| 07:38 | huginn | kmkale: The operation succeeded. |
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| 07:51 | rangi | evening |
| 07:53 | chris_n | or very early morning, depending upon which end of the world you're on ;-) |
| 07:53 | rangi | ;) |
| 07:54 | chris_n | rangi: you don't happen to use rrdtool for anything do you? |
| 07:54 | rangi | nope |
| 07:54 | oh and commiserations :) | |
| 07:55 | chris_n | :) |
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| 08:03 | francharb | hello all |
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| 08:22 | kf | good morning all |
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| 08:31 | kf | bonjour paul_p |
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| 08:34 | marcelr | morning koha |
| 08:35 | small question about master: anyone know why opacnav (navigate menu) disappeared on opac-detail ? | |
| 08:38 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 17 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #12 8 h 19 mn ago) |
| 08:39 | slef | Hi. I've found a bug in the bugzilla config. Who can fix it for me? |
| 08:40 | rangi: gmcharlt: either of you around? | |
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| 08:43 | chris_n | rangi: likewise, btw |
| 08:45 | kf | slef: I think there is a bugs.koha-community.org component in bugzilla to file bugs :) |
| 08:46 | slef | kf: yeah, I guess I'll go use that in a mo. |
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| 09:00 | slef | bug 5817 |
| 09:00 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5817 major, P5, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, Malformed author search link breaks sorting on results page |
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| 09:10 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #17: STILL UNSTABLE in 31 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_master/17/ |
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| 09:38 | slef | bug 5822 filed |
| 09:38 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5822 normal, P1, ---, chris, NEW, Missing perl module Math::Random::ISAAC for upgraded bugzilla |
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| 10:55 | kf | chris_n: around? |
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| 11:12 | magnuse | o/ |
| 11:13 | druthb | \o |
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| 12:05 | conan | hello everybody |
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| 12:10 | kf | hi conan |
| 12:10 | conan | I've been trying to join koha-devel list since yesterday, but the page doesn't load |
| 12:10 | in fact, several pages at koha.org don't load | |
| 12:10 | does anyone know if there's something down? | |
| 12:10 | jcamins_away | conan: That's because the Koha website is koha-community.org. |
| 12:10 | druthb | try at koha-community.org instead. |
| 12:11 | * conan | trying... |
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| 12:35 | kf | hm bugzilla seems to be down |
| 12:37 | chris_n | hi kf |
| 12:37 | jcamins_away | Good afternoon, kf, and good morning, chris_n. |
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| 12:40 | conan | well, found it finally, I must say mailing list are a little bit hidden, maybe there should be a link on the 'get involved' section, right next to the 'find us on irc' link |
| 12:40 | anyway, thanks jcamins and druthb | |
| 12:40 | magnuse | kf: bugs.koha-community.org works for me |
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| 12:43 | JesseM | Good Morning #Koha |
| 12:44 | jcamins | Good morning. |
| 12:44 | chris_n: do you know how to disable the label creator's balancing feature, so that if you tell it to create ten labels starting at number 12 it will populate the labels 12-21? | |
| 12:50 | chris_n | jcamins: I'm not sure what you are looking for; at present if you tell it to start on label 12, it will begin printing on the 12th label on the sheet and continue through the end of the batch |
| 12:50 | so presumably if you had a batch of 10 labels and told it to start on label 12 it would begin on the 12th physical label and print 10 labels | |
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| 12:52 | chris_n | I just tested on a batch of 10 here |
| 12:52 | setting the batch to start on label 12 causes it to use the 12th through 21st labels | |
| 12:54 | jcamins | One of our servers it "balances" the labels into several columns, skipping several labels. |
| 12:54 | tcohen | hi #koha |
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| 12:55 | jcamins | However, if it's working for you, this must be a localized error. |
| 12:56 | kf | hi jcamins |
| 12:56 | thx magnuse, works from here now too | |
| 12:57 | slef | @later tell wizzyrea can I have permission to update our details on http://koha-community.org/demo/ please? |
| 12:57 | huginn | slef: The operation succeeded. |
| 12:58 | kf | chris_n: wanted to ask if 1962 could go into 3.2.x |
| 12:59 | chris_n | jcamins: that is on 3.03.00.002 |
| 12:59 | so a bit behind master | |
| 13:00 | jcamins | chris_n: hm. I'll see if the same problem occurs on older code. |
| 13:01 | hdl | hi tcohen... Is there a documentation / how to to use your scripts available ? |
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| 13:04 | tcohen | hdl: if you create the symlink for koha-zebraqueue-daemon in init.d |
| 13:04 | as the docs stated for 3.0.x it should work out of the box | |
| 13:04 | hdl | k tahnks |
| 13:04 | tcohen | i'll put the steps to test on bugzilla |
| 13:06 | druthb | packages_for_installing_koha++ #goodness, that is faster. |
| 13:06 | tcohen | $ sudo ln -s ${SCRIPT_DIR}/koha-zebraqueue-ctl.sh /etc/init.d/koha-zebraqueue-daemon |
| 13:06 | $ sudo update-rc.d koha-zebraqueue-daemon defaults | |
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| 13:14 | oleonard | Re: timeout question on the Koha list... I don't think I have *ever* had a session time out |
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| 13:20 | kf | I don't hink it's koha |
| 13:20 | one of my coworkers had a problem like this - perhaps cookie settings int he browser | |
| 13:21 | oleonard | I wonder if I would have to leave my browser open and idle for 4 months, 17 days, 5 hours, and 20 minutes in order to get timed out |
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| 13:35 | thd | paul_p: Are you present? |
| 13:37 | paul_p: I have a question about authorities. | |
| 13:41 | hdl | thd: ? |
| 13:42 | thd | hdl: Do you have any libraries asking for repeatable $9? |
| 13:43 | hdl | in fact we have libraries which would like to cope with composed authorities. |
| 13:43 | => multiple $9 | |
| 13:43 | thd | yes |
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| 13:45 | thd | hdl: I assume that the work which you did on subject selection interface for Nîmes does not use $9. |
| 13:47 | hdl: Am I correct in assuming that the subject selection interface for Nîmes merely uses the words in the subfields? | |
| 13:48 | ... without $9? | |
| 13:49 | hdl | I think it uses $9 if exists. |
| 13:50 | but would have to check it out | |
| 13:51 | thd | hdl: If so, then how could it find a record unless all checkboxes for one subdived (composed) subject are checked? |
| 13:51 | * thd | presumes that I can trace the code at git.biblibre.com |
| 13:51 | hdl | looking at that. |
| 13:53 | * chris_n | wonders if oleonard is busy watching his browser waiting for it to time out... |
| 13:53 | * oleonard | only asks that someone stop by to moisten my eyeballs periodically |
| 13:53 | kf | hehe |
| 13:53 | chris_n | lol |
| 13:54 | * chris_n | hands oleonard a bottle of eyedrops |
| 13:54 | chris_n | and a bag of popcorn |
| 13:54 | francharb1 | re |
| 13:55 | hdl | oleonard: hi |
| 13:55 | kf | hi francharb1 |
| 13:56 | francharb1 | hi kf |
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| 13:56 | francharb | :) |
| 13:56 | kf | :) |
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| 14:00 | thd | What does trivial merge mean? |
| 14:02 | kmkale | paul_p / gmcharlt what could be a good day and time to have first kohacon meeting? |
| 14:02 | gmcharlt | kmkale: a couple weeks hence, perhaps? |
| 14:02 | paul_p | couple of weeeks++ |
| 14:03 | kmkale | can we have the first one quickly like next few days? |
| 14:03 | paul_p | ('morning gmcharlt) |
| 14:03 | gmcharlt | hi paul_p |
| 14:03 | kmkale: next week? | |
| 14:03 | paul_p | ok for me (well, depending on the timeline ;-) ) |
| 14:04 | thd | hdl: I found nimes related commits in git.biblibre.com but no changes for OPAC subjects |
| 14:04 | kmkale | what time? |
| 14:04 | wahanui1 | time is a scary thing |
| 14:06 | thd | hdl paul_p: Was the subject selection interface for Nîmes submitted as a patch upstream? |
| 14:06 | paul_p | thd: not yet |
| 14:06 | thd | paul_p: Do you know where the code is? |
| 14:06 | wahanui1 | well, the code is kept at git.koha-community.org |
| 14:06 | kmkale | in the first meeting I would like to get a few pointers, help with some copy writing stuff so a quick meeting if possible |
| 14:07 | sometime Monday | |
| 14:07 | thd | paul_p: I have been having trouble finding the source for the feature at git.biblibre.com |
| 14:08 | hdl | koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/catalogue/opac-detail.tmpl |
| 14:09 | thd | hdl: does it not need a Perl hook? |
| 14:10 | hdl | no. |
| 14:10 | it is jscript | |
| 14:11 | thd | hdl: I know that some just JavaScript part needs fixing. |
| 14:11 | hdl: It does not degrade gracefully if the user does not have JavaScript. | |
| 14:12 | hdl | and accessibilit and so on... |
| 14:12 | thd | yes |
| 14:13 | gmcharlt | kmkale: Monday at (say) 14:00 UTC+0 ? |
| 14:13 | kmkale | works for me |
| 14:14 | gmcharlt | paul_p: ^^ |
| 14:15 | paul_p | monday is not my preffered day. I prefer tue or fri |
| 14:15 | kmkale | gmcharlt: tuesday is good too |
| 14:15 | gmcharlt | Tuesday is fine for me too |
| 14:15 | kmkale | shall I drop a mail to the lists? |
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| 14:16 | gmcharlt | kmkale: good idea |
| 14:16 | kmkale | thanks gmcharlt paul_p |
| 14:17 | paul_p | ok, so tuesday & the mail is a good idea, definetivly ! |
| 14:17 | kmkale | i will put up a page in the wiki with some agenda. please add to it from your past experience to get things rolling |
| 14:18 | thd | hdl: Does Nîmes use authorities for their catalogue? |
| 14:18 | kmkale | bye for now. bbl |
| 14:20 | hdl | thd: yse |
| 14:20 | yes | |
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| 14:25 | oleonard | We have 7 holds in our system with NULL branchcode. |
| 14:26 | It could be that some are caused by Bug 5805, but I doubt all of them were. | |
| 14:26 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5805 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, ruth, RESOLVED FIXED, Changing Pickup library on already queued holds causes havoc on all holds below it |
| 14:26 | oleonard | I wonder if there's something else going on? |
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| 14:31 | thd | hdl: The subject selection feature functions as if no authorities are in use. |
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| 14:32 | thd | hdl: It queries the selected subject words not $9 otherwise it would not work with subdivided subject headings. |
| 14:33 | hdl | oleonard: should be that.... |
| 14:33 | yes. | |
| 14:34 | wizzyrea | oleonard: we've seen that too |
| 14:34 | and not in context of 5805 | |
| 14:36 | i'm trying to find my emails about that | |
| 14:36 | where branchcode ends up empty | |
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| 14:41 | gmcharlt | @quote random |
| 14:41 | huginn | gmcharlt: Quote #36: "<pianohacker> first, burn the perl book" (added by jdavidb at 07:12 PM, September 25, 2009) |
| 14:48 | * chris_n | reaches for the matches and his copy of "Programming Perl" |
| 14:48 | oleonard | I wonder what step two is? |
| 14:49 | kf | @quote random |
| 14:49 | huginn | kf: Quote #110: "chris: im rm, not god" (added by kf at 10:20 AM, December 08, 2010) |
| 14:50 | chris_n | oleonard: get out the marshmallows, Hershey's bars, and graham crackers? |
| 14:50 | wizzyrea | I like that idea |
| 14:50 | kf | mh yes |
| 14:50 | chris_n | why waste a perfectly good fire |
| 14:51 | wizzyrea | should burn pretty hot too ;) |
| 14:51 | thd | hdl: Actually the code shows that the feature would not work as it does if authorities are in use, |
| 14:52 | slef | hi wizzyrea did you get my message? |
| 14:52 | wizzyrea | yes sir |
| 14:52 | and i will do that right now | |
| 14:52 | slef | cool, thanks |
| 14:52 | wizzyrea | ty for the gentle reminder |
| 14:53 | slef | question for you: should I move our 3.2 demo to the logical position between HEAD and the 3.0 ones, or leave it where it is? |
| 14:53 | wizzyrea | yes, I think that is probably the right thing to do |
| 14:53 | slef | Q: A or B? A: yes :-/ |
| 14:54 | wizzyrea | A |
| 14:54 | :) | |
| 14:54 | slef | mmm, ambiguous re-expression of it :) |
| 14:54 | ok, will do | |
| 14:54 | thd | hdl: I suspect that either Nîmes is not using authorities for subdivided subjects or the code has bug which prevents the $9 ID from being returned to the template loop embedded in JavaScript. |
| 14:54 | slef | :) |
| 14:54 | ooh, authorities bugs? | |
| 14:54 | thd | s/loop/conditional/ |
| 14:54 | * slef | reads the log |
| 14:55 | thd | slef: If there is a bug it actually helps in this case. |
| 14:56 | slef | oic... I can't be much help but I feel I need to learn more about authorities because they keep causing us problems. |
| 14:57 | wizzyrea | slef: you should be able to edit that page now |
| 14:58 | slef | wizzyrea: trying... |
| 14:58 | thd | slef: The subject selection feature which BibLibre built for Nîmes is very nice and works better either without authorities or with a bug preventing the authority ID from being captured. |
| 14:58 | slef | wizzyrea: "You are not allowed to edit this item" |
| 14:58 | wizzyrea | k 1s |
| 14:59 | wp is sometimes tricky with perms | |
| 14:59 | please try now? | |
| 15:00 | slef | looks like I can edit everything |
| 15:00 | wizzyrea | that's ok with me |
| 15:00 | slef | "Warning: Liz Rea is currently editing this page" |
| 15:01 | wizzyrea | that's ok, it just means I recently clicked away from it |
| 15:01 | you won't have any collisions | |
| 15:01 | :) | |
| 15:04 | slef | updated http://koha-community.org/demo/ but I wonder if Version: HEAD needs explaining. Do we have an explanation of it? |
| 15:05 | Also I think http://koha-community.org/get-involved/ should link to the demo page rather than only bywater, OK? | |
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| 15:06 | slef | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Control_Using_Git seems to call HEAD "the current development version". I'll put that on the demo page. |
| 15:07 | thd | When can an authority ID ever not be a number? |
| 15:07 | wizzyrea | we should probably change that to master |
| 15:07 | since chris changed the name | |
| 15:07 | slef | ok, will do |
| 15:08 | thd | s/ever/ever in Koha/ |
| 15:11 | kf | slef: I think instead of HEAD current master branch perhaps |
| 15:13 | gmcharlt | thd: in Koha, it should always be a number |
| 15:13 | hdl | thd: ? why are you asking ? |
| 15:14 | slef | kf: I just put "Master" (else it looks too long and throws the table width out) and a note below explaining that, with a link to for-developers. Is that OK? |
| 15:14 | thd | hdl: There is a test in the JavaScript subject selection feature for whether the authority ID is a number. |
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| 15:15 | slef | I suggest http://koha-community.org/demo/ should link back to the providers, but I'm not going to decide to do that because I've an obvious conflict of interest. |
| 15:15 | hdl | sometimes when importing a biblio, authoritynumber can be an id from bnf or Rameau |
| 15:16 | thd | hdl: In $9? |
| 15:16 | hdl | $3 |
| 15:17 | thd | hdl: I would expect that $3 would not be a problem if Koha is only checking $9 |
| 15:17 | http://git.biblibre.com/?p=koh[…]be220ef3e1a5a15c7 | |
| 15:19 | Maybe I misunderstand the purpose of the check for a number. | |
| 15:23 | kf | slef: sounds ok |
| 15:23 | slef | kf: cool, thanks for checking. |
| 15:32 | oleonard | wizzyrea: Did you have any clues about NULL branchcodes in holds? |
| 15:32 | I've just been chatting with sekjal about it with regard to our system | |
| 15:32 | wizzyrea: Or just reports that it happens? | |
| 15:33 | wizzyrea | I know we've seen it |
| 15:33 | * wizzyrea | redoubles her search |
| 15:37 | hdl | sekjal: Do you have any reports about a NULL branchcode problem with reserves ? The only case i found was Pickup library |
| 15:38 | sekjal | hdl: I've only seen this on one system, where reserves.branchcode was NULL on a few reserves |
| 15:38 | wizzyrea | I want to say it's something about misrouting a hold or canceling a hold while in transit |
| 15:39 | sekjal | this was causing build_holds_queue.pl to complain, and was also (I believe) nullifying the holding branch of the items that were used to fill the holds |
| 15:39 | hdl | yes... it is very dangerous |
| 15:39 | wizzyrea | so these are holds that are not yet in transit? |
| 15:40 | just in queue? | |
| 15:40 | sekjal | wizzyrea: 5 were in queue, 2 were waiting |
| 15:40 | the 2 waiting led to null items.holdingbranch for the specific copies used to fill the holds | |
| 15:42 | wizzyrea | oy sharon's not handy otherwise I'd ask her |
| 15:43 | tcohen | oleonard: did u manage to test that patch for marc docs I sent? |
| 15:44 | oleonard | tcohen: Yes, and I have a few suggestions for changes. |
| 15:44 | tcohen | that's great! |
| 15:44 | oleonard | tcohen: Can I send you a patch with the suggestions? |
| 15:44 | tcohen | of course |
| 15:46 | oleonard | sekjal and wizzyrea, one of my users' reports stated "I changed the hold list [for bib 232979] and when I checked it in again to get the next person in line it came up with a hold that just said "Transfer to: " without any branch listed." |
| 15:46 | But I don't know if the hold priority aspect of it is a red herring or not | |
| 15:46 | I've tried changing hold priority without managing to cause a null branchcode. | |
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| 15:47 | wizzyrea | well... we saw something like that in harley, where changing the order would (do something bad) to the holds below it, it was similar to the bug with the pickup location that you linked earlier |
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| 15:53 | wizzyrea | ugh i'm so sorry I can't find it... still looking though |
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| 16:13 | sekjal | which mechanism of changing holds order? there's the arrows, and also the dropdowns. the bug may be mechanism-dependent |
| 16:14 | wizzyrea_ | this was the dropdowns I believe |
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| 16:20 | oleonard | As if we didn't have enough holds bugs, here's one that's new to us since our upgrade: Bug 5823 |
| 16:20 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5823 major, P5, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW, Repeated check in of on-hold item fails to show hold information |
| 16:20 | wizzyrea_ | ooo yea |
| 16:27 | There's also a deal where if you mark an item lost, and it gets returned at a branch that is not it's home, it doesn't prompt to send that now-found item home | |
| 16:27 | about to file a bug on tt oneha | |
| 16:27 | urg | |
| 16:27 | just about to file a bug on that one | |
| 16:28 | oleonard | Interesting. |
| 16:29 | wizzyrea_ | whoa, has anybody ever seen a thing where searching for a patron changes the set library of the logged in user?! |
| 16:30 | * oleonard | collapses in tears |
| 16:30 | oleonard | Searching from where? |
| 16:31 | wizzyrea_ | circulation.pl... |
| 16:31 | kmkale | how do i create a category in the wiki? |
| 16:31 | wizzyrea_ | a staff member of mine here can do it every time, but I haven't been able to replicate |
| 16:33 | it seems to happen when you go to add circ rule for a branch? weirdest problem ever! | |
| 16:33 | the other catch is he was FF on Mint Linux | |
| 16:34 | and it does it every time, changes the set library to the last library he tried to add a rule to | |
| 16:34 | when he performs a search | |
| 16:34 | oleonard | I can't imagine how it would be browser-dependent |
| 16:34 | Sounds like a TMPL variable name mixup | |
| 16:34 | wizzyrea_ | ^^is exactly what I said |
| 16:34 | the 1st, not the 2nd :P | |
| 16:36 | AHA | |
| 16:36 | t | |
| 16:36 | I just did it | |
| 16:36 | in chrome | |
| 16:36 | so no, not browser dependent | |
| 16:36 | so what I did | |
| 16:38 | added a circ rule to a library (holton), filled in all of the fields, clicked add | |
| 16:41 | then searched for a patron from the check out at the top of the page, still ok | |
| 16:41 | then searched the catalog from circulation.pl, and the set library changed | |
| 16:41 | (i hasten to note that this may be local, as we're having trouble adding circ rules atm as well) | |
| 16:41 | oleonard | That is convoluted |
| 16:42 | wizzyrea_ | I can't get it to do it directly any way |
| 16:42 | other way* | |
| 16:43 | oleonard | Does it for me too |
| 16:43 | wizzyrea_ | !!! |
| 16:43 | alrighty then | |
| 16:44 | oleonard | And it's not a display problem, that branch selection is persistent |
| 16:45 | wizzyrea_ | *nod* |
| 16:46 | do I win a prize gday of the weirdest | |
| 16:47 | urg | |
| 16:47 | weirdest bug of the day | |
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| 16:49 | oleonard | wizzyrea_ I think you've bumped Bug 4079 from the top spot as weirdest |
| 16:49 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4079 critical, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Opening system preferences page causes session to lose information |
| 16:50 | wizzyrea_ | woo hoo notoriety!untitled folder |
| 16:50 | lol i have got to figure out how to make this dang trackpad less sensitive | |
| 16:50 | oleonard | You also win the price for weirdest typing today |
| 16:50 | druthb | lol |
| 16:51 | wizzyrea_ | owen, can you add circ rules? |
| 16:52 | oleonard | Did you find that the circ rule was not added? |
| 16:53 | wizzyrea_ | we did, but that mngay be a local thi |
| 16:53 | lord. local thing. | |
| 16:53 | oleonard | The rule I added to test the branch bug is there |
| 16:53 | wizzyrea_ | k that's local then |
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| 17:03 | slef | mngay lord? |
| 17:05 | wizzyrea_ | oh wow... that's happening all over now, set library changing when you search the catalog |
| 17:08 | sekjal | wizzyrea_: you're seeing this on current HEAD? |
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| 17:14 | wizzyrea__ | bug 5824 |
| 17:14 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5824 critical, P5, ---, paul.poulain, NEW, Creating a circ rule for a library other than default causes set library anomalies |
| 17:14 | wizzyrea__ | oleonard: is that accurate? |
| 17:15 | oleonard | Yes |
| 17:15 | wizzyrea__ | k ty |
| 17:18 | sekjal | oh wow that's weird (just confirmed it) |
| 17:23 | oleonard | I wonder if it has to do with circulation.pl checking circulation rules... But does it do that even if you don't try to check out? |
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| 17:25 | wizzyrea__ | yea, you don't have to touch anything on circulation.pl |
| 17:25 | afaict | |
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| 17:27 | wizzyrea__ | we have not observed this happening with any privs other than superlibrarian |
| 17:27 | so our staff accounts are probably not in danger of it happening | |
| 17:28 | unless someone else has observed differently, that is | |
| 17:37 | sekjal | the branchcode of the library you just changed is passed as a param when looking up the borrower |
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| 17:39 | Brooke_ | kia ora! |
| 17:41 | sekjal | cat-search.inc line 64 |
| 17:41 | that's the source of the problem, I think | |
| 17:41 | wizzyrea__ | ooo sekjal you win |
| 17:41 | sekjal++ | |
| 17:43 | Brooke_ | it's almost like the guy's a quality assurance manager or summat. |
| 17:45 | sekjal | now, the question is, is the branch attribute antiquated for this kind of search (it's next to 'printer'), or is it needed to narrow the search results |
| 17:45 | because we can either nuke it in cat-search.inc | |
| 17:45 | or rename it in smart-rules.pl | |
| 17:45 | wizzyrea__ | well renaming seems less likely to break stuff, no? |
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| 17:46 | Brooke_ | more info plox! |
| 17:46 | like a screenshot or summat | |
| 17:46 | sekjal | a bit... but both strategies need to be handled with care |
| 17:46 | Brooke_ | <--- too lazy 2 log |
| 17:46 | * Brooke_ | waves to brendan+ |
| 17:47 | wizzyrea__ | bug 5824 |
| 17:47 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5824 critical, P5, ---, paul.poulain, NEW, Creating a circ rule for a library other than default causes set library anomalies |
| 17:47 | wizzyrea__ | is what we're talking about Brooke_ |
| 17:48 | Brooke_ | eeewwww |
| 17:48 | that looks to be brand freggin new, too | |
| 17:49 | oleonard | It's so obscure we may have never noticed it |
| 17:49 | sekjal | I'd be interested to see if it's recently introduced, or has just gone unnoticed for a while |
| 17:49 | git bisect is our friend here | |
| 17:49 | * Brooke_ | never had branches so wouldn't know. |
| 17:49 | wizzyrea__ | sekjal: I wonder if that same param is passed other places too |
| 17:50 | Brooke_ | these newfangled branches, what with their Justin music. GET OFF THE LAWN!!!! |
| 17:50 | sekjal | any place you can go from circulation.pl that takes branch as a param could be at risk |
| 17:51 | wizzyrea__ | because I saw at least one other time during my testing this morning where that happened |
| 17:51 | but I couldn't replicate it | |
| 17:51 | (well, not me personally, one of my peeps here) | |
| 17:51 | Brooke_ | tricksy wizzy, tricksy |
| 17:54 | sekjal | I think renaming the variable that's used on smart-rules.pl would be the safest bet |
| 17:54 | make what's used specifically on that page named more specifically | |
| 17:54 | branch -> current_rule_branch or something | |
| 17:57 | oleonard | Makes sense to me |
| 17:57 | wizzyrea__ | I defer to your much larger brain |
| 17:57 | Brooke_ | size doesn't matter ;) |
| 18:00 | * Brooke_ | muses if the ILS is large enough to warrant an authorised headings database for preferences and junk and where that might be when y'all say that you're clever enough to have already stuck it someplace... |
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| 18:08 | * oleonard | belatedly votes for everyone who won elections yesterday |
| 18:08 | * Brooke_ | waves to miguel |
| 18:08 | Brooke_ | :) |
| 18:09 | * Brooke_ | was just getting back to nengard about absentee ballots |
| 18:09 | wizzyrea__ | afk, lunch, ping regular wizzyrea with whatever |
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| 18:10 | * oleonard | doesn't want regular wizzyrea's help, he wants HULK wizzyrea's help! |
| 18:10 | Brooke_ | oleonard++ humour |
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| 19:06 | druthb | Anyone else getting "Failed to submit form: parsererror" when you try to stage marc records using very-recent 'master' code? |
| 19:06 | oleonard | druthb: I imported a big batch of records just last week. More recent than that? |
| 19:07 | druthb | This problem did not obtain on or about the code of 14 Feb, but does as of today. |
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| 19:08 | oleonard | Hi conan |
| 19:08 | druthb: Anything unusual about the settings for your import? | |
| 19:08 | * oleonard | is testing |
| 19:09 | conan | oleonard: hi, sorry about the rejoins, I was testing weechat conf, to autojoin here on start |
| 19:09 | druthb | nope...pretty conventional stuff. Same as they used on the 14th. |
| 19:10 | oleonard | 366 records staged without any error |
| 19:10 | druthb | Interesting. this is on a package-based install; I'll test some things here, and see if there's something about *that* that's causing headaches. |
| 19:13 | oleonard | druthb: That reminds me of Bug 5184... Did that patch get pushed? |
| 19:13 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5184 enhancement, P5, ---, robin, ASSIGNED, Upgrade to support jQuery 1.4.2 |
| 19:13 | rangi | druthb: that sounds like a js error |
| 19:14 | yeah that will be the cause of it | |
| 19:14 | druthb | ah-hah. |
| 19:14 | oleonard | Bug 5449 |
| 19:14 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5449 blocker, PATCH-Sent, ---, brice.sanchez, ASSIGNED, JSON malformed in Koha - Blocker with jQuery 1.4.x |
| 19:14 | * druthb | has big bald patches at the moment, thanks to this one. |
| 19:14 | wizzyrea | nooo |
| 19:15 | oleonard | druthb: This is a good chance for you to test the patch for Bug 5449! :) |
| 19:15 | druthb | I shall! :D |
| 19:15 | wizzyrea | w00t |
| 19:16 | rangi | yeah if that gets signed off i can push it, and that would mean we wouldnt need to switch back to the bundled jquery |
| 19:16 | * oleonard | 's brain is all muddled after that morning of bug-chasing... Don't know what to do next... |
| 19:17 | rangi | coffee |
| 19:17 | wizzyrea | at least we caught one |
| 19:17 | * druthb | knows about as much about jquery and JSON as she does about quantum physics, so there's some faith involved here. |
| 19:17 | wizzyrea | and I thought that bug was going to be a doozy to explain |
| 19:17 | rhcl_away | where would marc dictate a copyright license go? Can Koha recognize all the various open licenses, and search based on license type? |
| 19:18 | rangi | you'd have to ask a cataloguer that |
| 19:18 | * druthb | blames wizzyrea for diggin' this one up. |
| 19:18 | rangi | and which marc :) |
| 19:18 | rhcl_away is now known as rhcl | |
| 19:18 | * wizzyrea | points at hbraum, passing the buck |
| 19:19 | rangi | druthb: you'd probably want to apply that patch to a branch, build a new package and test, then test it on one that is not using the debian supplied jquery as well |
| 19:19 | * druthb | nods. |
| 19:19 | rangi | (the bonus of using hte debian supplied one of course is it then falls under the debian security teams eyes) |
| 19:19 | druthb | I've got a git-based kit, and a package-driven install.. I'll check it both places. |
| 19:20 | rangi | sweet |
| 19:20 | http://jenkins.koha-community.org/ running on the biblibre machine | |
| 19:21 | its almost working | |
| 19:23 | rhcl | sekjal: when you get back I wanna talk about all the document licenses and cataloging |
| 19:31 | rangi | http://www.trademe.co.nz/Home-[…]ion-357989041.htm |
| 19:32 | up to 7000$ now | |
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| 19:35 | mib_lpd06s | hello |
| 19:35 | wizzyrea | helo |
| 19:35 | hello even | |
| 19:36 | mib_lpd06s | I have a problem setting the language of koha 3.2.5 |
| 19:38 | I don't see the language selector in the bottom of the screen. | |
| 19:39 | oleonard | mib_lpd06s: Have you enabled your languages in system preferences? |
| 19:39 | mib_lpd06s | I install language with "perl translate install es-ES" |
| 19:40 | oleonard | mib_lpd06s: Check your system preferences. There is a tab labeled (in English) "I18N/L10N" |
| 19:40 | Which means "internationalization and localization" | |
| 19:41 | Look for the language, opaclanguages, and opaclanguagesdisplay preferences | |
| 19:41 | mib_lpd06s | I see the language in system preferences (I18N/L10N) |
| 19:41 | oleonard | is it checked? |
| 19:42 | mib_lpd06s | Yes, with english |
| 19:43 | oleonard | mib_lpd06s: So English and es-ES both have check marks in the checkboxes next to them? |
| 19:43 | mib_lpd06s | yes |
| 19:43 | rangi | i think there is another syspref |
| 19:43 | to show the selector | |
| 19:44 | oleonard | rangi: In the OPAC, yes: opaclanguagesdisplay |
| 19:44 | But I think the staff client shows the selector by default if you have more than one language enabled. | |
| 19:44 | sekjal_away left #koha | |
| 19:45 | * oleonard | loves how easy it is now to install translations |
| 19:45 | doesn't know when it got so easy, but is grateful | |
| 19:46 | rangi | we are workng on easier |
| 19:46 | apt-get install koha-l18n-es | |
| 19:46 | is where we are aiming for | |
| 19:48 | mib_lpd06s | in demo "software.coop (Europe)" I don't see the selector also |
| 19:48 | rhcl | Has anyone at a library purchased an OReilly ebook and put it in their catalog? Legal? Ethical? |
| 19:48 | http://oreilly.com/ebooks/ | |
| 19:48 | rangi | i bet you could get opinions either way |
| 19:50 | mib_lpd06s | I install it in debian from git |
| 19:51 | perhaps is the version of koha | |
| 19:52 | oleonard | rangi: I was hoping you were working on a universal translator |
| 19:52 | rangi | heh |
| 19:54 | mib_lpd06s | There is a archive to configure language selector visibility? |
| 19:55 | oleonard | mib_lpd06s: I have installed es-ES and enabled it and EN and I can see the language selector |
| 19:56 | I'm testing on the latest version in git | |
| 19:57 | rhcl | sent o'reilly a query, will note response here |
| 19:57 | mib_lpd06s | koha/apache permission? |
| 20:00 | I reboot the machinne an now I see!!! | |
| 20:00 | many thnaks... | |
| 20:01 | oleonard | Good news, mib_lpd06s |
| 20:01 | I can't imagine why a reboot was necessary! | |
| 20:02 | mib_lpd06s | Good Bye! |
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| 20:13 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 18 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #12 19 h ago) |
| 20:20 | * oleonard | ducks out |
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| 20:31 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for Bug 5814 - Style error message on manage staged records page according to... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]88ad8bb66dbc5a71e> |
| 20:35 | rhcl | sekjal!!!! |
| 20:35 | wahanui1 | i think sekjal is a wonderful geek. |
| 20:35 | druthb | Run, sekjal! rhcl has been lurking in wait for you! |
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| 20:39 | rhcl | @marc 542 |
| 20:39 | huginn | rhcl: unknown tag 542 |
| 20:43 | rhcl | OK, so marc doesn't have enough fields to display all the info relevant to a record, namely, with eBooks and open-source licenses, license info like "CC-BY-NC-SA" |
| 20:43 | So we need to expand marc to 4 digits. | |
| 20:43 | That's my position. | |
| 20:44 | sekjal | http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd542.html |
| 20:45 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #18: STILL UNSTABLE in 32 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_master/18/ |
| 20:45 | Starting build 19 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #12 20 h ago) | |
| 20:46 | rangi | http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_master/18/ |
| 20:46 | getting better | |
| 20:48 | rhcl | is the 542 something new? shows on Internet but not in the "official" marc documents we hold |
| 20:49 | sekjal | if we dropped "CC-BY-NC-SA" into 542$f or 542$l, that may work |
| 20:49 | rhcl | Info related to copyright |
| 20:49 | sekjal | it's from Oct 08 |
| 20:49 | or at least that's when it was last revised | |
| 20:49 | rhcl | Will RDA affect any of this? |
| 20:50 | * sekjal | has no idea. |
| 20:50 | sekjal | probably |
| 20:50 | yeah, 542 is not a part of Koha's Frameworks yet | |
| 20:50 | so, yay, no worries about conflict if we were to use it | |
| 20:54 | rhcl | Well, this Overdrive thing has me grumpy, and I see at lease some <mostly> free books out there, although not the latest and greatest novels |
| 20:54 | and I may make a stab at collecting and cataloging a sample. | |
| 20:54 | rangi | right meeting time bbl |
| 20:54 | rhcl | Way out of my league |
| 21:02 | gmcharlt | sekjal: actually, not quite - can't count on 542 not being used in the future |
| 21:02 | for some local, stick a '9' in it, like 549 | |
| 21:03 | sekjal | I suggest 542 because it's the best-fit existing tag |
| 21:03 | if we used $f or $l, I think we'd remain compatible with anyone else's practices later | |
| 21:04 | going by how the subfields are defined | |
| 21:05 | gmcharlt | $l = copyright status, not license |
| 21:05 | $f = transcriptoin of copyright statement | |
| 21:05 | neither are compatible | |
| 21:05 | ideally a new subfield woudl be defined, but absent that, $n (note) would be the best place to put it | |
| 21:06 | but best would be a new subfield for explicit encoding of the license(s) | |
| 21:06 | sekjal | how about 540$a? |
| 21:06 | http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd540.html | |
| 21:07 | gmcharlt | that would be better |
| 21:07 | I'd still prefer a new subfield to encode a vocabulary of licenses | |
| 21:07 | sekjal | that would be ideal |
| 21:07 | gmcharlt | but that's a matter for MARBI |
| 21:08 | sekjal | we'll have Koha speaking arbitrary metadata formats before the new subfield is added to the standard |
| 21:09 | gmcharlt | sekjal++ # that will come sooner |
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| 21:19 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #19: STILL UNSTABLE in 34 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_master/19/ |
| 21:19 | Chris Cormack: Fix for Bug 5814 - Style error message on manage staged records page according to standard | |
| 21:19 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5814 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, Style error message on manage staged records page according to standard style |
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| 21:44 | gmcharlt | rangi: remind me, where's your patch status tracker? |
| 21:46 | * gmcharlt | also reminds people to *not* put bug numbers in square brackets |
| 21:46 | gmcharlt | i.e., please don't do this: "[Bug 1234] fix the frobber" |
| 21:46 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1234 enhancement, P2, ---, paul.poulain, NEW, Parameter: Bar Code # Prefix for book / patron searching |
| 21:46 | gmcharlt | text in square brackets is liable to be stripped |
| 21:47 | wizzyrea | oooo good tip |
| 21:47 | * wizzyrea | would so square bracket them :P |
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| 22:15 | mtj | http://www.stuff.co.nz/life-st[…]-are-for-tickling |
| 22:17 | sekjal | okay, time to go |
| 22:17 | have a good night/day/whateverlocaltime, #koha! | |
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| 22:18 | mtj | peace out, sekjal |
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| 23:06 | rangi | gmcharlt: http://koha-releasemanagement.branchable.com/ |
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| 23:21 | rangi | heh |
| 23:21 | the reason the translatable tests are failing | |
| 23:21 | ............................................................... termin?. | |
| 23:21 | next if /^\.* done\.$/; | |
| 23:21 | the test assumes your locale is en :) | |
| 23:22 | * rangi | will add the condition so the tests pass on french servers |
| 23:23 | gmcharlt | lol |
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| 23:24 | rangi | hi ronald |
| 23:25 | ronald | hiya rangi |
| 23:27 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Fixing the translatable tests to work in french locales <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]63881b0e99b90afa4> / Bug 5811 - Bumping database version <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]5f8de2f3b428e576c> / Bug 5811: Add sysprefs to control overriding fines <http://git.koha-community.org/[…];a=commitdiff;h=8 |
| 23:29 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 20 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #12 23 h ago) |
| 23:29 | Project Koha_master build #20: ABORTED in 30 s: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_master/20/ | |
| 23:29 | * Chris Cormack: Bug 5811: Add sysprefs to control overriding fines | |
| 23:29 | * Chris Cormack: Bug 5811 - Bumping database version | |
| 23:29 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5811 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, jcamins, ASSIGNED, Fines below noissuecharges should not require override |
| 23:29 | jenkins_koha | * Chris Cormack: Fixing the translatable tests to work in french locales |
| 23:30 | Starting build 21 for job Koha_master (previous build: ABORTED -- last SUCCESS #12 23 h ago) | |
| 23:50 | gmcharlt | @later tell hdl I've started looking at bug 5579; I figure on another couple days to beat it into shape |
| 23:50 | huginn | gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. |
| 23:51 | rangi | gmcharlt++ |
| 23:53 | gmcharlt | @later tell hdl http://git.librarypolice.com/?[…]efs/heads/bug5579 - note that I will be doing a lot of squashing before submitting |
| 23:53 | huginn | gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. |
| 23:58 | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 4852 - rewrite the query to include limits if using ccl= <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]59220934d3501ff6c> / Merge remote branch 'kc/new/enh/bug_5792' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f67066b3a545e76a6> / Bug 5792 - Add reference icon to Bridge icon set <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=ko |
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