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| 00:02 | hdl | good night |
| 00:18 | rangi | hmm time to stop answering emails |
| 00:36 | * chris_n | checks in |
| 00:39 | chris_n | eythian++ |
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| 02:45 | Brooke_ | kia ora |
| 03:15 | thd-away is now known as thd | |
| 03:45 | * Brooke_ | mulls over precisely how much reading would needs be done to understand partitioning properly... |
| 03:46 | mtj | just enuff to choose 'all' :) |
| 03:46 | 1, all, yes ... | |
| 03:46 | Brooke_ | yeah, that won't do it, unfortunately... |
| 03:47 | you'd think that buying Linux its own drive to play on would have made life easier | |
| 03:47 | but nooooooo | |
| 03:47 | * Brooke_ | lets loose some naval class swears *again* |
| 03:48 | mtj | heh, ive been dropping the f-bomb recently too |
| 03:48 | * Brooke_ | titters at mj's idea of naval class swearing. |
| 03:49 | mtj | feels pretty good, i gotta say.. |
| 03:49 | Brooke_ | bah, lock ye in a wee metal tube for a few months underwater and ye'll do better in time, laddy. |
| 03:50 | * mtj | turns up the public-enemy |
| 03:50 | Brooke_ | hehehe |
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| 05:43 | cait | morning |
| 05:47 | ibeardslee | evening ;) |
| 05:48 | * ibeardslee | needs to head home of the eqnz stuff today |
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| 07:02 | cait | good morning paul_ü |
| 07:02 | paul_p | |
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| 07:44 | magnuse | so how long did it take from someone reported a security vulnerability and until 3.2.5 was out? |
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| 07:56 | francharb | hello #koha |
| 08:00 | magnuse | hiya francharb |
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| 08:01 | kf | good morning #koha |
| 08:03 | francharb | morning magnuse, kf ;) |
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| 08:05 | magnuse | hiya kf and paul_p |
| 08:07 | kf | hi francharb, magnuse and paul_p |
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| 08:14 | rangi | Less than a day magnuse |
| 08:14 | Bout 16 hours | |
| 08:19 | magnuse | thanks, cool! floss ftw! ;-) |
| 08:21 | kf | :) |
| 08:21 | talking about 3.0.5? | |
| 08:21 | hi rangi | |
| 08:21 | magnuse | or 3.2.5 ;-) |
| 08:21 | kf | oh right |
| 08:23 | magnuse | and it was reported by someone in france, fixed by someone in the us and double checked by someone in nz? |
| 08:25 | rangi | Pretty much yep |
| 08:27 | kf | :) |
| 08:28 | is there a way to check for other problems like that? | |
| 08:32 | magnuse | and it's cool that the problem was discovered not because someone took advantage of a vulnerability, but because someone was able to inspect the source code |
| 08:35 | rangi | We went on a hunt a while back that one must have snuck in |
| 08:36 | Its always worth making sure placeholders are used | |
| 08:37 | Anytime you are editing a file its worth checking | |
| 08:37 | * magnuse | wonders how hard it would be to write a script that would look for variable interpolation in SQL statements... probably non-trivial... |
| 08:38 | rangi | Yeah |
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| 08:45 | thd | good morning paul_p |
| 08:46 | * magnuse | suddenly remembers he hasn't had breakfast yet |
| 08:46 | magnuse is now known as magnus_breakfast | |
| 08:46 | thd | Who administers git.koha-community.org? |
| 08:47 | * magnus_breakfast | thinks it would be neat if the list at the bottom here http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Main_Page also said who hosts what... |
| 08:48 | * thd | looks at what is listed there |
| 08:49 | mtj | magnus_breakfast: bywater hosts http://git.koha-community.org/ |
| 08:49 | one of the many helpful things bywater does for the Koha project | |
| 08:50 | thd | mtj: Do you know the pupose of the flashing button at the top of http://git.koha-community.org? |
| 08:51 | mtj | what flashing button? |
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| 08:52 | kmkale | Namaskar #koha |
| 08:52 | kf | hi kmkale |
| 08:53 | kmkale | hi kf |
| 08:53 | thd | mtj: Sorry, that seems to be a problem with my browser. |
| 08:53 | mtj: some strange graphics substitution. | |
| 09:01 | mtj: Has everyone known to be involved in Koha in NZ and people dearest to them survived the earthquake unharmed? | |
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| 09:03 | mtj | as far as i know... |
| 09:03 | there's still a lot of people unaccounted for :/ | |
| 09:04 | thd | mtj: Is Wellington prone to earthquakes? |
| 09:06 | mtj | yeah, apparently |
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| 09:10 | magnus_breakfast is now known as magnuse | |
| 09:11 | rangi | We had a huge one in 1840 |
| 09:11 | And lie of a bunch of faultlines | |
| 09:11 | Of=on | |
| 09:13 | * thd | grew up in California with the house noticeably shaking at least twice a year. |
| 09:14 | mtj | http://www.wcl.govt.nz/heritage/earthquakes.html |
| 09:15 | rangi | http://www.gns.cri.nz/Home/Lea[…]/Wellington-Fault |
| 09:18 | we are due an 8 | |
| 09:18 | sometime in the next 50 years the geologists reckon | |
| 09:18 | but theres no point worrying about it | |
| 09:18 | theres not a lot you can do to prepare for an 8 | |
| 09:19 | * thd | 's father had been head of design and safety of dams in California. |
| 09:19 | rangi | having said that, i did make sure all our water bottles are full |
| 09:19 | magnuse | sounds like a good precaution! |
| 09:21 | thd | After my father retired from the California Department of Water Resources he did some work on earth quake preparedness for Los Angeles in the 1980s. |
| 09:22 | Los Angeles has multiple major faults and had had major earthquakes but had no emergency plan specifically for earthquakes in the early 1980s. | |
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| 09:23 | hudsonbot | Starting build 379 for job Koha_Master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #374 4 days 5 hr ago) |
| 09:24 | thd | My emergency plan is only to visit but not live in earthquake prone areas. |
| 09:26 | One of the faults near San Francisco runs directly through the main libraries at UC Berkeley. | |
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| 09:28 | magnuse | tajoli++ # for posting his article to e-lis |
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| 09:48 | hudsonbot | Project Koha_Master build #379: STILL UNSTABLE in 24 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]/Koha_Master/379/ |
| 10:24 | rangi | http://blog.labour.org.nz/inde[…]ng-ict-community/ |
| 10:28 | magnuse | cool |
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| 11:24 | magnuse | g'day druthb |
| 11:24 | @wunder bodo, norway | |
| 11:24 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 1.0�C (12:20 PM CET on February 25, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 0.0�C. Windchill: -3.0�C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Steady). |
| 11:24 | magnuse | that's more like it... |
| 11:24 | druthb | hi, magnus! |
| 11:25 | @wunder 20852 | |
| 11:25 | huginn | druthb: The current temperature in Woodley Gardens, Rockville, Maryland is 6.9�C (6:30 AM EST on February 25, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 95%. Dew Point: 6.0�C. Windchill: 7.0�C. Pressure: 29.48 in 998.2 hPa (Falling). Wind Advisory in effect from 11 am this morning to 2 PM EST this afternoon... |
| 11:27 | hdl | thd: The z3950 server for solr is now working fine. thanks for your input |
| 11:42 | magnuse | cool! |
| 12:02 | kf | hm, are reviews from patrons always moderated? |
| 12:05 | magnuse | kf: "All comments added by patrons via the OPAC to bibliographic records require moderation by the librarians." http://koha-community.org/docu[…]-manual/?ch=x5745 |
| 12:06 | kf | oh right... should check the manual :) thx magnus! |
| 12:06 | hm | |
| 12:07 | where do I moderate them? | |
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| 12:07 | kf | I only see the tool for moderating tags under tools |
| 12:07 | magnuse | kf: /cgi-bin/koha/reviews/reviewswaiting.pl |
| 12:08 | kf | grr found it |
| 12:08 | I am really blind today | |
| 12:08 | thx again :) magnuse++ | |
| 12:08 | magnuse | hehe |
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| 12:56 | JesseM | Good morning #Koha |
| 12:57 | nengard | morning JesseM |
| 12:57 | how's your library crash course going? | |
| 12:58 | JesseM | going well. just sooo much info. |
| 12:58 | * druthb | waves to JesseM. |
| 12:59 | nengard | the one good thing is that librarians are helpful people :) so you can always ask for help |
| 13:00 | JesseM | yes and i appreciate that :) |
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| 13:35 | thd | hdl: Is the address for SimpleServer using Solr/Lucene the same? |
| 13:35 | hdl | yes |
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| 13:46 | thd | hdl: What query can I run to find matches? |
| 13:50 | oleonard | bywater++ # for fixing the very nasty bug 5805 |
| 13:50 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5805 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, ruth, ASSIGNED, Changing Pickup library on already queued holds causes havoc on all holds below it |
| 13:57 | druthb | :) |
| 14:01 | oleonard | druthb++ # too |
| 14:01 | druthb | nengard++ |
| 14:01 | thanks, owen. :) | |
| 14:12 | bg | morning |
| 14:14 | thd | hdl : The connection works from yaz-client but when I try from PHP YAZ I have a connection lost error for flaubert. |
| 14:18 | hdl | thd: thanks for reporting. |
| 14:18 | it is strange. | |
| 14:20 | I think someone is working on th solr stuff, causing the server to crash. | |
| 14:20 | I will tell you when it is up again | |
| 14:20 | thd | Well that would explain. |
| 14:24 | * slef | boogies into #koha |
| 14:24 | oleonard | Hi slef |
| 14:24 | * slef | just found http://cchits.net/ |
| 14:25 | kf | hi slef |
| 14:26 | * slef | gets a patch backwards. Oops. |
| 14:26 | is finally working on koha again | |
| 14:26 | slef | I may even get to unstable this week :) |
| 14:28 | thd | hdl: 206.196.111.194 cannot obtain a connection to the Lyon 3 test, although, I can connect from home. |
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| 14:36 | magnuse | working_on_koha++ # ;-) |
| 14:36 | oleonard | Anyone else having problems with an authority search from addbiblio.pl? I tried a personal name search, found a result, clicked choose and got: |
| 14:36 | Can't call method "field" on an undefined value at /kohaclone/authorities/blinddetail-biblio-search.pl line 80. | |
| 14:37 | slef | oleonard: if no-one beats me to it, I'll check as I remember which catalogue we host that uses authorities on them :) Can you get a backtrace? |
| 14:38 | oleonard | backtrace? |
| 14:38 | druthb | @later tell wizzyrea buzz me when you get a chance? |
| 14:38 | huginn | druthb: The operation succeeded. |
| 14:38 | wizzyrea | yo |
| 14:38 | druthb | :D |
| 14:39 | wizzyrea | :) I just was reading my email :) |
| 14:39 | * druthb | gives huginn a cookie for good service. |
| 14:39 | slef | oleonard: SetEnv KOHA_BACKTRACES 1 in the right virtualhost bit of koha-httpd.conf and reload, then cause the error. |
| 14:39 | wizzyrea | huginn: botsnack cookie |
| 14:39 | huginn | wizzyrea: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready |
| 14:39 | wahanui1 | i already had it that way, huginn. |
| 14:42 | oleonard | wizzyrea: Where do you see Bug 5812? |
| 14:42 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5812 minor, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW, Tag Cloud - capitalized words come before lower-case words |
| 14:43 | wizzyrea | in the OPAC |
| 14:43 | ummmm let me see if I can get you a screencap | |
| 14:43 | druthb | http://screencast.com/t/CrasgR7IcZYg |
| 14:43 | oleonard | That one needs more context :) |
| 14:43 | wizzyrea | ah yes, that |
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| 14:44 | wizzyrea | http://screencast.com/t/9f1xmmgmWzkI |
| 14:44 | well bother | |
| 14:44 | one sec, let me use an arrow | |
| 14:45 | druthb | I see it, though. All the words starting with caps show up before any word without. |
| 14:45 | wizzyrea | http://screencast.com/t/xj2fNE3oW |
| 14:47 | oleonard | Thanks wizzyrea, I'm able to duplicate it now |
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| 15:01 | oleonard | slef: Is setting KOHA_BACKTRACES to 1 supposed to give me different info in the onscreen error or the log? |
| 15:03 | slef | onscreen |
| 15:11 | wizzyrea | jcamins: there is a syspref in local use |
| 15:11 | WarnOnlyOnMaxFine | |
| 15:11 | that you may want to look at | |
| 15:11 | * wizzyrea | is finding all sorts of gems in there |
| 15:13 | * oleonard | thinks wizzyrea made that one up |
| 15:13 | wizzyrea | I totally didn't |
| 15:14 | oleonard | Looks like a Harley thing |
| 15:14 | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3507 | |
| 15:14 | huginn | 04Bug 3507: enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, jwagner, NEW, Circ rules enhancements, maximum fine warning |
| 15:18 | oleonard | slef: Sorry, I didn't think it had worked, but I guess it did. No new information shows |
| 15:18 | Can't call method "field" on an undefined value at /kohaclone/authorities/blinddetail-biblio-search.pl line 80. | |
| 15:19 | at /kohaclone/authorities/blinddetail-biblio-search.pl line 80 | |
| 15:19 | wizzyrea | hm |
| 15:19 | that's odd bc... well let me double triple check | |
| 15:19 | * wizzyrea | has way too many koha windows open |
| 15:19 | wizzyrea | I sometimes get confused |
| 15:20 | ok yes sorry, that's a harleyism | |
| 15:21 | oleonard: we fixed our problem with the "return home" prompts -- they work fine as long as you have your sysprefs set up right | |
| 15:21 | oleonard | Oh good. |
| 15:22 | * wizzyrea | was unaware of the existence of "HomeOrHoldingBranchReturn" |
| 15:22 | kf | WarnOnlyOnMaxFine??? |
| 15:22 | wizzyrea | sorry sorry, it's a harleyism |
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| 15:22 | kf | ah |
| 15:23 | * kf | thougth she was going crazy |
| 15:23 | kf | has been looking through sys prefs all day |
| 15:23 | wizzyrea | hopefully soon I"ll be doing less of that |
| 15:23 | (referencing harleyisms) | |
| 15:34 | oleonard | I think I've reached the limit of what patch-pushed bugs I can properly test |
| 15:34 | * oleonard | passes the baton |
| 15:35 | slef | oleonard: ok, I'll give it a crack. How do you get to that problem? |
| 15:35 | authority search from addbiblio | |
| 15:35 | any more specifics? | |
| 15:37 | oleonard | In my case I clicked to search for an author (100a) and did a search by Main entry ($a only) |
| 15:37 | Got one result, clicked "choose" for that result | |
| 15:37 | a new window popped up with the error message | |
| 15:37 | slef | ok, just tried that, worksforme |
| 15:37 | 3.2.5 | |
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| 15:47 | wizzyrea | atz__: in case you were wondering if having a blog was worthwhile: it totally is, as you have just gotten the kansas contingent of overdrive users all in a tizzy. |
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| 15:48 | oleonard | It was a good post: http://atzberger.blogspot.com/[…]this-message.html |
| 15:48 | Although part of me wants to say "What did you expect from OverDrive?" | |
| 15:49 | wizzyrea | I agree with that, but it still sucks, and I feel like people are ignoring it |
| 15:49 | "well that's the price of being able to offer digital content" | |
| 15:49 | uh, no | |
| 15:57 | gmcharlt | though the alternative to OverDrive is libraries organizing themselves to work with the publishers collectively |
| 15:57 | thd is now known as thd-away | |
| 15:57 | * slef | applauds gmcharlt for the various patching work |
| 15:57 | rhcl | we just bought into Overdrive, and I am personally not at all happy. |
| 15:57 | slef | gmcharlt: they could form an Online Centre for Library Collective bargaining... oh, wait, ... |
| 15:57 | gmcharlt | at the moment, I get the impression that the publishers like working with OverDrive because it is a single entity to talk to |
| 15:58 | rhcl | It is so totally locked up, and doesn't work with Linux at all. |
| 15:58 | gmcharlt | libraries working individually would be betting *much* worse terms from the ebook publishers, I think |
| 15:58 | so I believe that any solution that's better for libraries than OverDrive has to be done collectively | |
| 15:58 | rhcl | I've let it be known that Overdrive as a toll free help number, and that's who they should call when the angry patrons start coming in. |
| 15:58 | slef | rhcl: we lost the platform-neutrality argument with DVDs sadly :-( |
| 15:58 | gmcharlt | slef: instant trademark lawsuit! ;) |
| 15:59 | slef | gmcharlt: bah, trademarks are an anti-competitive monopoly. Someone should accuse OCLC of that sort of thing ;-) |
| 16:00 | rhcl: is there a polite way to say "we told you so"? | |
| 16:00 | rhcl | Well, with DVDs -- those are going the way of the floppy--everything is a digital file now, either on a thumb drive or a stream from the cloud. |
| 16:00 | gmcharlt | slef: heh. there is a rather an irony that SkyRiver, which is a creature of III, that's in fact the one doing that in the US courts |
| 16:00 | slef | gmcharlt: oh, there's so much irony in that dispute we could mine it and make steel! |
| 16:01 | (or would that be steely?) | |
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| 16:01 | gmcharlt | slef: the muppets version of "any old iron" just came to mind :) |
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| 16:05 | slef | hrm, tried to comment on atz__ blog, but I've no idea if it went through or not. Definitely didn't appear on the page. |
| 16:05 | I was trying to suggest maybe DxD would run a petition like http://www.defectivebydesign.org/amazon1984 for it. | |
| 16:07 | atz__ | slef: not seeing your comment. not running moderation on comments either, so idk. |
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| 16:09 | slef | atz__: another google bug :-( |
| 16:10 | Google, the OverDrive of the web. | |
| 16:11 | kf | have a nice weekend #koha .) |
| 16:11 | :) | |
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| 16:18 | wizzyrea | atz__: http://librarianbyday.net/2011[…]-giant-step-back/ |
| 16:19 | way to let the cat out of the bag, that kitty wanted to be free | |
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| 16:27 | gmcharlt | atz__: wizzyrea: http://chronicle.com/blogs/wir[…]-of-america/29897 |
| 16:27 | wizzyrea | ooo thanks |
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| 17:09 | nengard | what preference makes it so that when you click on a subject heading or author it does an autority search instead of a subject search |
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| 17:31 | * wizzyrea | pats oleonard |
| 17:31 | oleonard | :) |
| 17:32 | wizzyrea | btw, the sound cues are quite ear pleasing |
| 17:32 | very melodious | |
| 17:32 | oleonard | The sound cues were not my thing, if that's what you mean |
| 17:32 | wizzyrea | no |
| 17:33 | that's something totally different | |
| 17:33 | just sayin; | |
| 17:33 | ' | |
| 17:33 | oleonard | I didn't think my staff would like them but they mostly do. |
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| 17:38 | * oleonard | is thinking about how one might control the volume of the sounds and set it in a cookie |
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| 17:41 | * cait | waves |
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| 17:47 | oleonard | http://www.libraryjournal.com/[…]on_ebook.html.csp |
| 17:48 | Not the kind of audio volume control I was thinking of, but funny: | |
| 17:48 | http://www.ironicsans.com/volumething/ | |
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| 17:56 | tcohen | anyone with a few seconds to explain the use of link_bibs_to_authorities.pl |
| 17:56 | ?? | |
| 17:56 | (is it safe?) | |
| 18:01 | ok, i'll read the code | |
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| 18:03 | jcamins_away | tcohen: I wouldn't. |
| 18:03 | (use it) | |
| 18:03 | * oleonard | hates that there are things in Koha that we shouldn't use. We should take them out. |
| 18:04 | jcamins_away | Or fix them. |
| 18:04 | tcohen | LinkBibHeadingsToAuthorities doesn't look bad |
| 18:06 | oleonard is now known as oleonard-away | |
| 18:06 | tcohen | you mean like removing zebraqueue? |
| 18:06 | :D | |
| 18:06 | (zerbaqueue_daemon i mean) | |
| 18:07 | nengard | oleonard did you have an issue after upgrading virtualbox? |
| 18:07 | it keeps prompting me to upgrade, but i remember others having issues | |
| 18:07 | so i've held off | |
| 18:07 | jcamins_away | nengard: my upgrade seemed to work fine. |
| 18:08 | nengard | good stuff |
| 18:08 | jcamins_away | But then, my VM is broken half the time anyway, so how would I know? |
| 18:08 | nengard | hehe |
| 18:08 | tcohen | nengard: oleonard had to tell virtualbox to forget "saved states" about usb's or something |
| 18:09 | jcamins: is there any reported bug around link_bibs_to... ? | |
| 18:10 | jcamins_away | tcohen: no, because I can't clearly identify any problem with it. It just seems to cause problems. |
| 18:11 | Wow. | |
| 18:11 | It just got *black* out. | |
| 18:12 | tcohen | ok, i'll do some test and report back if I find something |
| 18:12 | have a nice weekend #koha | |
| 18:15 | fcapo | There's bug 5410 :/ |
| 18:15 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5410 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, fcapovilla, ASSIGNED, "Right truncation not supported" error when running link_bibs_to_authorities.pl |
| 18:19 | oleonard-away is now known as oleonard | |
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| 18:19 | oleonard | nengard: I had to discard my VM's saved state after upgrading |
| 18:20 | nengard | i'm not sure what that means - but i'll upgrade and you can tell me :) hehe |
| 18:20 | oleonard | I would shut down your vm all the way first |
| 18:27 | nengard | oo it's fancy |
| 18:28 | okay how do i clear the saved state - cause i got a usb error | |
| 18:28 | jcamins_away | If you don't use USB, couldn't you just disable it? |
| 18:28 | (just guessing) | |
| 18:29 | oleonard | right-click on that VM's entry I think |
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| 18:33 | nengard | jcamins - my mouse is usb |
| 18:34 | jcamins_away | nengard: VirtualBox cares? |
| 18:34 | I have a USB keyboard and mouse, and never noticed it being a problem that I had disabled USB. | |
| 18:34 | nengard | hmmm |
| 18:38 | * jcamins_away | isn't an expert, though. |
| 18:55 | tcohen | the usb devices are "passed" directly to the virtual machine to handle them |
| 18:55 | BUT | |
| 18:55 | that's not true for input devices | |
| 18:56 | as virtualbox does some extra stuff for using them in the host OS | |
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| 19:46 | wizzyrea | rhcl: about? |
| 19:47 | generally: with envisionware does anybody know if it pulls the PIN From the opac login? | |
| 19:47 | or somewhere else | |
| 19:48 | * jcamins_away | does not know. |
| 19:48 | wizzyrea | I honestly cannot think of another field that it would use |
| 19:48 | envisionware = SIP, if that triggers an alert for anybody :P | |
| 19:49 | * jcamins_away | knows that libraries are using it successfully with Koha, though. |
| 19:49 | wizzyrea | the PIN? |
| 19:49 | jcamins_away | No, Envisionware. |
| 19:49 | wizzyrea | we use envisionware and it works passably enough |
| 19:49 | jcamins_away | Sorry. |
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| 19:49 | wizzyrea | :) sok |
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| 20:14 | rhcl | I'm here |
| 20:15 | AFAIK Envisionware sends the login ID and PIN to the ILS server just like most other things. | |
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| 20:15 | rhcl | Was that not the question though? |
| 20:16 | wizzyrea | yep that was the question |
| 20:16 | so it's the opac login? | |
| 20:16 | for user/pass | |
| 20:16 | pin | |
| 20:16 | ty for the info rhcl | |
| 20:16 | rhcl | What's the difference between an OPAC login and the regular Koha library card/PIN? |
| 20:17 | We looked at Envisionware for a while, and actually had a couple of personal demos at trade shows. | |
| 20:18 | If you are OK with a closed, proprietary system Envisionware looks like it has more polish and is better put together than most other PAC access systems. | |
| 20:18 | But I pretty much prefer Libki these days--I have total control over both the server and the clients. | |
| 20:19 | Envisionware is one of those systems where you are totally dependent on them, don't open the box or it'll explode. | |
| 20:20 | It's also better accessorized than some others--they have integrated copiers, printers, coffee pots, etc. | |
| 20:21 | And if I remember right they also have the automated book return sorter thingers. | |
| 20:21 | wizzyrea | I don't really have a say in what they use |
| 20:21 | my libraries are buying envisionware | |
| 20:21 | * jcamins_away | giggles at the idea of a coffee pot controlled by SIP. |
| 20:21 | wizzyrea | tee hee |
| 20:21 | rhcl | Expensive, but with the "closed system" caveat Envisionware seems to work well. |
| 20:22 | * jcamins_away | imagines someone coming into the office and going to get a cup of coffee only to be told "too many fines. Please see circulation desk." |
| 20:23 | rhcl | You know, that's an idea really. These access systems can accept cash via coin and bill machines, and can maintain a credit balance.... |
| 20:24 | jcamins_away | Or even better "your coffee mug has been recalled. Please return to the circulation desk immediately." |
| 20:24 | rhcl | so that patrons can print without paying, with the cost deducted from their on-line balance. |
| 20:24 | wizzyrea | haha |
| 20:24 | alright: http://wizzyrea.wordpress.com/[…]e-need-your-help/ | |
| 20:24 | * wizzyrea | shamelessly self promotes |
| 20:24 | jcamins_away | rhcl: it makes sense. I'm just enjoying the image of someone being denied a cup of coffee because they don't return their books. |
| 20:24 | rhcl | Why couldn't you have a pay coffee machine which SIP accesses an ILS database and deducts 95 cents for money? |
| 20:24 | * wizzyrea | imagines lending coffee |
| 20:25 | wonders what the return chute would look like | |
| 20:25 | rhcl | Or if it was a simple overdue book, maybe the could get black coffee, but not cream and sugar???? Works for me. |
| 20:26 | Heck, I'll bet Overdrive could figure out a way to lend coffee cups and have them auto-disintegrate after 14 days. | |
| 20:28 | But they probably wouldn't work with Linux.... | |
| 20:34 | jcamins_away | Hey, does anyone know if it's possible to tell Zebra to only find matches for two terms in the *same* field? |
| 20:34 | * jcamins_away | is thinking about relator terms. |
| 20:35 | chris_n | wizzyrea:LOL |
| 20:35 | wizzyrea | :) |
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| 20:48 | jcamins_away | Good night, #koha. |
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| 20:48 | * jcamins_away | is really _away, now |
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| 20:50 | * oleonard | has a holiday calendar widget breakthrough |
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| 20:53 | * wizzyrea | cheers for oleonard |
| 20:53 | * gmcharlt | therefore declares today, 25 February, as Calendar Widget Day |
| 20:54 | * oleonard | just tried to do a Spotlight search on his Win7 machine |
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| 20:56 | oleonard | Battle of the calendar widgets: http://screencast.com/t/pQMI8Dff2 |
| 20:59 | wizzyrea | purty |
| 20:59 | I like the top better in most all ways | |
| 21:01 | bg | yup the top is purty |
| 21:02 | gmcharlt | agreed |
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| 21:03 | oleonard | That's a fairly plain jQuery UI themed widget, the one I've got in my jQueryUI branch right now (extra large for the holidays page) |
| 21:11 | wizzyrea | every time rangi writes me a query to look at something, I learn something about mysql. |
| 21:11 | I love that. | |
| 21:11 | thanks rangi :) | |
| 21:11 | rangi++ | |
| 21:13 | bg | @karma rangi |
| 21:13 | huginn | bg: Karma for "rangi" has been increased 9 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 9. |
| 21:13 | bg | @karma brendan |
| 21:13 | huginn | bg: Karma for "brendan" has been increased 24 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 24. |
| 21:13 | bg | @karma bg |
| 21:13 | huginn | bg: bg has neutral karma. |
| 21:13 | bg | :) |
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| 21:46 | bg | @wunder 93109 |
| 21:46 | huginn | bg: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 10.6�C (1:51 PM PST on February 25, 2011). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 29.97 in 1014.8 hPa (Steady). |
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| 21:51 | snail | morning all |
| 22:15 | slef | hi snail |
| 22:16 | * slef | is watching NZvAUS highlights. Don't tell him how it finishes. |
| 22:19 | slef | well that's over |
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| 22:44 | snail | slef: NZvAUS in what sport? urban search and rescue? |
| 22:46 | oh, cricket. yes, well, that was never going to be much of a pairing... | |
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