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| 02:20 | rangi | hi druthb |
| 02:22 | druthb | hi, rangi! :) |
| 03:10 | rangi | @marc 300 |
| 03:10 | huginn | rangi: A physical description of the described item, including its extent, dimensions, and such other physical details as a description of any accompanying materials and unit type and size. (Repeatable) [a,b,c,e,f,g,3,6,8] |
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| 03:23 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for Bug 5776 - menu on funds wraps when only 1 fund <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]3cccd9cf387dfcc09> |
| 03:25 | hudsonbot | Starting build 374 for job Koha_Master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 03:49 | Project Koha_Master build #374: SUCCESS in 23 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]/Koha_Master/374/ | |
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| 03:49 | hudsonbot | Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 5776 - menu on funds wraps when only 1 fund |
| 03:49 | kmkale | Namaskar #koha |
| 03:50 | druthb | Namaste, kmkale. :D |
| 03:51 | space_librarian | Namaste, kmkale. :) |
| 03:51 | druthb | All set to throw a mighty conference in Thane? |
| 03:51 | kmkale | heya druthb Yup :) |
| 03:51 | hi space_librarian | |
| 03:52 | I was away for a few days doing a Koha training trip in Konkan, then the weekend. But this is great | |
| 03:52 | druthb | I'm excited about the idea of coming to India for the con! It'll be fun. |
| 03:52 | kmkale | yes. 1 min on phone.. |
| 03:55 | druthb: I hope everyone will come. | |
| 03:56 | I am going to throw up a site with registrations and speakers etc asap | |
| 03:57 | rangi: around? | |
| 03:58 | rangi | for a few more mins, then ill be back from the bus a bit later also |
| 03:58 | whats up? | |
| 04:00 | druthb | kmkale: once I know for sure that I'm going, I'll jump in with *some* kind of presentation proposal, I imagine. It's hard for me to speak about what I do, because it comes so naturally to me--it'd be like speaking about how to breathe or perspire or make your heart beat. You don't think about it, you just *do* it, mostly. |
| 04:01 | kmkale | this kocon I think we will have a lot of student participation |
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| 04:01 | kmkale | so think about how to get new ppl into koha dev or guide budding librarians on to koha |
| 04:02 | * space_librarian | agrees |
| 04:05 | kmkale | getting the international Koha community here and exposing our librarians and students to you good people is the whole purpose behind bidding for kohacon for us |
| 04:06 | * rangi | heads for the bus, bbl |
| 04:09 | kmkale | brb. gonna reboot |
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| 05:13 | Brooke_ | kia ora |
| 05:16 | druthb | hi, Brooke! |
| 05:16 | Brooke_ | :) |
| 05:28 | kmkale | hey Brooke_ |
| 05:28 | wahanui | i think Brooke_ is not quite as she tries to appear. It's okay, though; she's really very sweet. |
| 05:28 | Brooke_ | wahanui: forget brooke |
| 05:28 | wahanui | Brooke_, I didn't have anything matching brooke |
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| 05:28 | Brooke_ | wahanui: forget Brooke_ |
| 05:28 | wahanui | Brooke_: I forgot brooke_ |
| 05:29 | Brooke_ | how's it going? |
| 05:29 | druthb? | |
| 05:29 | wahanui | druthb is quite possibly insane, but she fits right in at ByWater Solutions, because of it. |
| 05:29 | Brooke_ | ehhhh |
| 05:30 | * druthb | sticks her thumbs in her ears and goes "wugga wugga wugga!" |
| 05:30 | Brooke_ | I like the stuff I read in the logs about the conference :) |
| 05:33 | kmkale | Brooke_: I hope you are coming to India :) |
| 05:33 | * Brooke_ | hopes so, too. |
| 05:33 | * druthb | hopes so, too. |
| 05:33 | kmkale | :) |
| 05:33 | Brooke_ | elephant ride = mandatory. |
| 05:34 | kmkale | hehe. In Thane. That will be a tough one.. |
| 05:34 | druthb | hee hee |
| 05:34 | Brooke_ | I'll go into the country |
| 05:34 | * druthb | finding a beautiful saree = mandatory. |
| 05:34 | kmkale | Or may be not. There are people who hire for weeings etc. Will find out |
| 05:35 | druthb: thats easy | |
| 05:35 | druthb | :) |
| 05:35 | * Brooke_ | prolly should have kept one of her mum's... |
| 05:35 | kmkale | druthb: selecting from the shree variety is the problem |
| 05:35 | my typing is on a whack today | |
| 05:36 | druthb | Oh, looking at sites online, there's an astonishing variety... I know what colors tend to work on me (read as: What I'll wear in public, and what I won't.), which does help narrow things down a bit. |
| 05:36 | Brooke_ | pfft |
| 05:37 | * druthb | glares at the peanut gallery. |
| 05:38 | kmkale | druthb: apart from the colors there are too many types of cloth; silk and what not.. |
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| 05:39 | Brooke_ | girly stuff is gonna put me under |
| 05:39 | druthb | So I've gathered. Lots of different sorts of embroidery and prints, too. Fun! :D |
| 05:39 | pooooor Brooke! | |
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| 05:45 | * druthb | watches Brooke_ flee, and just shakes her head. |
| 05:46 | druthb | I'm gonna head to bed...gotta get my beauty sleep. See ya soon! |
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| 06:45 | kf | good morning #koha :) |
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| 06:54 | kf | jcamins? |
| 06:54 | wahanui | hmmm... jcamins is supposed to be an outstanding cook. or well-traveled and brilliant. or trying to think of a solution, but short of a set of three sysprefs (ShelfBrowserUsesLocation, ShelfBrowserUsesCcode, and ShelfBrowserUsesHomeBranch), I don't really have any ideas. |
| 06:55 | kmkale | hi kf |
| 06:56 | kf | hi kmkale :) |
| 06:56 | congratulation | |
| 06:56 | kmkale | thanks. please book your tickets :) |
| 06:57 | kf | hehe |
| 07:00 | kmkale | gotta go. meeting. bbl.. |
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| 07:26 | kf | god morgen magnuse |
| 07:30 | magnuse | guten morgen kf & #koha |
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| 07:57 | magnuse | bonjour hdl |
| 07:59 | kf | bonjour hdl |
| 07:59 | hdl | Bonjour |
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| 08:06 | Veera | hi |
| 08:06 | good morning | |
| 08:07 | kf | good morning Veera |
| 08:07 | Veera | I am from American university in Kuwait |
| 08:07 | magnuse | hiya Veera |
| 08:07 | Veera | I need your assistance in some module in koha |
| 08:08 | I have recently installed koha live cd 3.2 version | |
| 08:09 | if you could guide me to setup z39.50 | |
| 08:09 | as I could not importa data of LOC | |
| 08:09 | I mean MARC | |
| 08:09 | please help | |
| 08:10 | kf | Veera: when you go to cataloging > z39.50 search - is loc listed there as a search target? |
| 08:10 | Veera | yes |
| 08:10 | it is listed | |
| 08:10 | kf | and when you search for a word in the title, what message do you get? |
| 08:11 | Veera | no msg..and no action |
| 08:11 | kf | are you behind a firefall? |
| 08:11 | Veera | simple staying inthe same search page |
| 08:11 | no | |
| 08:11 | even our system admin was checking the same | |
| 08:12 | kf | firefall is firewall ... |
| 08:12 | so nothing happens when you click on search? | |
| 08:12 | Veera | yes |
| 08:12 | kf | hm |
| 08:12 | Veera | could you please help in this |
| 08:12 | ? | |
| 08:12 | kf | it works for me without problems :( |
| 08:13 | magnuse | me too |
| 08:13 | kf | I am using a 3.2.2 install |
| 08:13 | Veera | is there any where we should enable an option |
| 08:13 | magnuse | Veera: what title did you search for? |
| 08:13 | Veera | ? |
| 08:13 | management | |
| 08:14 | infact, I tried different keywords | |
| 08:14 | nothing | |
| 08:14 | magnuse | i get lots of results for management |
| 08:14 | hm | |
| 08:15 | have you tried other z39.50 targets? | |
| 08:15 | Veera | ya |
| 08:15 | I tried | |
| 08:15 | but the problem is that page has no action | |
| 08:15 | at all | |
| 08:16 | magnuse | no results for any z39.50 target? |
| 08:16 | Veera | no |
| 08:16 | rangi | i think Veera is saying the form doesnt submit |
| 08:16 | what browser are you using Veera | |
| 08:16 | ? | |
| 08:17 | kf | hi rangi |
| 08:18 | Veera | IE |
| 08:19 | but the server is mossila | |
| 08:19 | client is IE | |
| 08:19 | rangi | try with firefox |
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| 08:22 | Veera | the server machine I tried with firebox |
| 08:22 | no result | |
| 08:22 | the same | |
| 08:23 | rangi | i have no more ideas then im afraid, it works fine here also |
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| 08:23 | Veera | is there any place where should we enable some option or something??? |
| 08:23 | rangi | no |
| 08:23 | kf | Veera: which language are you using? |
| 08:23 | francharb | hellp #koha |
| 08:24 | kf | morning francharb :) |
| 08:24 | francharb | hi kf |
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| 08:27 | * magnuse | just tested copy cataloguing with IE on Vista and Koha 3.2.2 - the form looked strange but it did return results |
| 08:27 | rangi | could be something with the live cd set up |
| 08:28 | like it might be set to use remote yui, instead of local, and i think yahoo have broken the remote one | |
| 08:28 | kf | makes sense |
| 08:29 | if she is not using the english templates that sometimes is a good test to - change back to english and test to rule out problems with the translation | |
| 08:29 | but I am not aware of a problem with this template | |
| 08:33 | magnuse | i winder what she meant by "server is mossila"... |
| 08:39 | kf | perhaps that she has mozilla (firefox) installed on the machine where koha is running? |
| 08:40 | magnuse | ah, might be |
| 08:42 | paul_p | hello everybody |
| 08:46 | magnuse | bonjour paul_p |
| 08:52 | kf | bonjour paul_p |
| 09:26 | rangi | hi paul_p |
| 09:27 | paul_p | hi rangi. What's new? good week-end ? |
| 09:27 | * paul_p | start feeling spring coming in Marseille, and had a thought for NZ this morning, thinking you may feel the autumn coming... |
| 09:28 | paul_p | @wunder marseille |
| 09:28 | huginn | paul_p: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 11.0�C (10:00 AM CET on February 21, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: 3.0�C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Rising). |
| 09:28 | rangi | @wunder wellington nz |
| 09:28 | huginn | rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 19.0�C (10:00 PM NZDT on February 21, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 14.0�C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Steady). |
| 09:28 | rangi | still pretty warm here |
| 09:30 | magnuse | @wunder bodo, norway |
| 09:30 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -2.0�C (10:20 AM CET on February 21, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: -9.0�C. Windchill: -10.0�C. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026 hPa (Steady). |
| 09:32 | magnuse | spring equinox is just one month away - yay! |
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| 09:44 | kf | we got snow overnight |
| 09:45 | it was very spring like the last few days - I think we all were a bit surprised | |
| 09:45 | @wunder Konstanz | |
| 09:45 | huginn | kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 0.4�C (10:50 AM CET on February 21, 2011). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: -0.0�C. Windchill: 0.0�C. Pressure: 30.02 in 1016.5 hPa (Steady). |
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| 12:00 | sekjal | druthb++ |
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| 12:07 | druthb | sekjal++ |
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| 12:15 | kmkale | any thoughts on making the KohaCon11 site using http://pkp.sfu.ca/?q=ocs or mediawiki is better? |
| 12:23 | druthb | kmkale: that has some nice facilities!~ |
| 12:23 | kmkale | yup |
| 12:24 | never used it though so dont know if it will have flexibility | |
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| 12:29 | mihafan | hello world |
| 12:29 | magnus_lunch is now known as magnuse | |
| 12:29 | magnuse | trying out ocs would be cool! |
| 12:29 | hello mihafan | |
| 12:30 | mihafan | I have a problem with ldap authentication |
| 12:30 | Description of problem: On local machine is installed windows server 2003 with configured active directory <nabble_img src="ad_.png" border="0" alt="acive directory"/>, I installed Ubuntu 10.10 on another machine, here I installed Koha 3.0 which still works well. Koha have configured to allow users from Active Directory authenticate via LDAP module in Koha d | |
| 12:31 | koha-conf.xml contents: | |
| 12:31 | <useldapserver>1</useldapserver> <ldapserver id="ldapserver"> | |
| 12:31 | <hostname>192.168.11.90:389</hostname> <!-- address of LDAP server --> | |
| 12:32 | <base>dc=koha,dc=md</base> | |
| 12:32 | <user>cn=Administrator,cn=Users,dc=koha,dc=md</user> | |
| 12:32 | <pass>Q1W2e3r4</pass> | |
| 12:32 | <replicate>1</replicate> | |
| 12:32 | <update>1</update> | |
| 12:32 | <mapping> | |
| 12:32 | <firstname is="givenName" ></firstname> <surname is="sn" ></surname> <address is="postalAddress" ></address> <city is="l" ></city> <branchcode is="" >MAIN</branchcode> <userid is="sAMAccountName" >Administrator</userid> <password is="userPassword" ></ | |
| 12:32 | When I try to log in OPAC module, only the user administrator can login, other users can not authenticate in opac module. How things should look to enable authentication and other users. | |
| 12:34 | * magnuse | hopes someone who knows something about LDAP can help answer that... |
| 12:36 | mihafan | anyone know other forums besides kohalists.katipo.co.nz Koha, koha.nabble.com?? |
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| 12:39 | mihafan | no? |
| 12:45 | sekjal | mihafan: do you have bind_by_auth set? |
| 12:45 | as I recall, it's a required config for Active Directory | |
| 12:45 | mihafan | yes |
| 12:46 | sekjal | hmmm |
| 12:47 | mihafan | user can authenticate in koha via ldap module |
| 12:47 | active directory is a ldap server where exists a user accounts | |
| 12:49 | and user must be authentificate in koha with account and password that exists in Active Directory | |
| 12:57 | does know how to make authenticate for other user, without Administrator | |
| 12:57 | ???? | |
| 13:00 | sekjal | perhaps take "Administrator" out of the <user> tag in the mapping |
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| 13:03 | mihafan | but what about the rest of the users in active directory are they just control the Administrator, would still have to log in Koha OPAC |
| 13:04 | tcohen | hi #koha |
| 13:04 | i recently posted on koha-devel about adding authority edition logging | |
| 13:05 | i didn't have any feedback | |
| 13:06 | has anyone thought about it | |
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| 13:11 | mihafan | here is active directory conf http://www.mediafire.com/?8iiuwd2kp8ypssy |
| 13:11 | print screen | |
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| 13:22 | jcamins | Good morning, #koha |
| 13:24 | sekjal | morning, jcamins |
| 13:28 | kf | hi sekjal and jcamins :) |
| 13:28 | marcelr++ | |
| 13:28 | sekjal | hi, kf! |
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| 13:43 | NateC | good morning #koha |
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| 13:46 | hdl | hi all |
| 13:46 | kf | hi NateC |
| 13:46 | NateC | hiya kf |
| 13:46 | tcohen | hi hdl, jcamins |
| 13:46 | NateC | hi hdl |
| 13:47 | * jcamins | waves at everyone on #koha |
| 13:48 | * magnuse | too |
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| 14:08 | hdl | @later tell thd The invariant number of results is fixed. It was owed to a bad Regexp::Grammars version (it was a bit old on the machine you tested). I have added a z3950 configuration file. Should be better now. We are still struggling with the bad MARC.... |
| 14:08 | huginn | hdl: The operation succeeded. |
| 14:23 | kmkale | i did a "git rm on installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl" by mistake. How do I get that file from the origin repository? |
| 14:24 | jcamins | How do I force git to either ignore file permissions or reset them? |
| 14:25 | kmkale: I think you can do a git revert, can't you? | |
| 14:26 | kmkale | jcamins: will that revert in anyway hurt my work in progress? |
| 14:26 | * kmkale | is afraid of git :( |
| 14:27 | jcamins | kmkale: I'm not sure. |
| 14:28 | Probably better not to risk it. If you say gmcharlt's name three times in a row, though, sometimes he appears and solves everyone's git problems. :) | |
| 14:28 | kmkale | :) |
| 14:31 | kf | kmkale: could a git add work? |
| 14:31 | sekjal_away | git checkout installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl |
| 14:31 | kf | ah, sekjal :) |
| 14:35 | kmkale | error: pathspec 'installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl' did not match any file(s) known to git. |
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| 14:38 | sekjal_away | hmmm |
| 14:38 | jcamins | kmkale: git checkout HEAD -- installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl |
| 14:39 | kmkale | jcamins: rror: pathspec 'installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.p' did not match any file(s) known to git. |
| 14:39 | sorry jcamins that should be "error: pathspec 'installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl' did not match any file(s) known to git." | |
| 14:40 | jcamins | Hm. |
| 14:41 | Uh-oh. I just made my entire git repository unreadable. | |
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| 15:11 | wizzy-lunch is now known as wizzyrea | |
| 15:11 | wizzyrea | oh no |
| 15:13 | jcamins | wizzyrea: oh no? |
| 15:13 | wizzyrea | re: your git repo |
| 15:15 | jcamins | wizzyrea: oh, I got it straightened out. |
| 15:16 | I do have something "oh no"-worthy to report, though. | |
| 15:16 | wizzyrea | !! |
| 15:16 | jcamins | My chair just broke. |
| 15:16 | wizzyrea | .... |
| 15:16 | did you fall down? | |
| 15:17 | jcamins | Not all the way. |
| 15:17 | But I leaned back, and when my back hit the back of the chair, both backs kept going. | |
| 15:17 | ;) | |
| 15:17 | wizzyrea | ....... |
| 15:17 | ! | |
| 15:17 | that's alarming for a monday | |
| 15:18 | jcamins | I knew it was coming. I noticed last week that there was something off about my chair. |
| 15:19 | wizzyrea | can anyone explain to me the rationale behind the z39.50 button on the bib detail page? |
| 15:19 | what is a use case for that? | |
| 15:19 | jcamins | z39.50 button on the bib detail page? |
| 15:19 | * jcamins | goes to look for it. |
| 15:20 | wizzyrea | http://screencast.com/t/MSFSaWhqkcCf |
| 15:20 | jcamins | I don't think I ever noticed that before. |
| 15:20 | Overlaying? | |
| 15:20 | * wizzyrea | is glad she has no incriminating tabs open |
| 15:20 | wizzyrea | that's what I'm wondering |
| 15:21 | if you click it, it populates the search with the current title/isbn | |
| 15:21 | i just wondered what people actually use that for | |
| 15:22 | * jcamins | doesn't use it at all. |
| 15:22 | * wizzyrea | has had it hidden from our librarians for a long time |
| 15:22 | jcamins | Anyone have any idea where "summary" comes from on the OPAC results template? |
| 15:26 | It's not set. | |
| 15:27 | So why is it populated? | |
| 15:28 | Okay, I think it comes from search.pm. | |
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| 15:31 | wizzyrea | hmm where are we keeping the circ rules in the db these days? |
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| 15:36 | jcamins | wizzyrea: branch_borrower_rules and branch_item_rules? |
| 15:37 | wizzyrea | Ah thanks, will look |
| 15:37 | koha_circ_rules++ | |
| 15:38 | jcamins | Oops, I forgot issuingrules. |
| 15:38 | You need all three. | |
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| 16:28 | cait | hi #koha |
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| 16:42 | wizzyrea | hey cait |
| 16:42 | nengard | git question for any git experts on - how do i 'stop' git am: It looks like git-am is in progress. Cannot rebase. |
| 16:42 | jcamins | git am --abort? |
| 16:42 | cait | git am --abort |
| 16:42 | not sure | |
| 16:42 | but I did it before | |
| 16:43 | ah, jcmains said the same | |
| 16:43 | jcamins | I've never done it, I just think that's how I would. |
| 16:43 | cait | and hi liz |
| 16:43 | :) | |
| 16:45 | hdl | nengard: if you want to be able to edit the code to make it pass... git am -3 |
| 16:45 | then you edit the conflict | |
| 16:45 | And you commit | |
| 16:46 | nengard | thanks all |
| 16:46 | got it going again | |
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| 17:49 | mib_d05vwu | hi |
| 17:49 | wahanui | bonjour, mib_d05vwu |
| 17:50 | mib_d05vwu | i have a question |
| 17:50 | about autobarcode | |
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| 17:50 | mib_d05vwu | hi |
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| 17:51 | mib_d05vwu | hi i have a question about autobarcode |
| 17:51 | jcamins | mib_d05vwu: go ahead and ask. |
| 17:51 | Anyone who can help you will. | |
| 17:52 | mib_d05vwu | ok |
| 17:52 | thnaks | |
| 17:52 | jcamins | Also, you may want to change your nick to something more typable. ;) |
| 17:52 | mib_d05vwu | i have my koha autobarcode in incremental |
| 17:53 | but only generates 4 number | |
| 17:53 | i need 6 | |
| 17:53 | how I can do to generate 6 | |
| 17:53 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit32: Fix for Bug 5776 - menu on funds wraps when only 1 fund <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]544a7ad71dd4f174b> / Bug 5741 - Extra comma causes JavaScript error in Internet Explorer <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]9c86817a302f1b765> / Bug 5777 Update and install syspref tab titles <http://git.koha-community.org/gitwe |
| 17:53 | mib_d05vwu | ?? |
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| 17:54 | jcamins | mib_d05vwu: I don't know much about the autobarcode code. |
| 17:55 | mib_d05vwu | this generates 4 number |
| 17:55 | i need 6 | |
| 17:55 | :( | |
| 17:57 | jcamins | chris_n might know the answer. |
| 17:58 | I don't think he's around at the moment. | |
| 17:58 | mib_d05vwu | ok |
| 17:58 | thanks | |
| 17:58 | i wait | |
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| 18:02 | cait | mib_d05vwu: there is no way in configuration at the moment to change the length of the autobarcode feature |
| 18:03 | hm, I wonder what would happen when you add a longer barcode - if it would count from that perhaps | |
| 18:05 | mib_d05vwu | mm...whare? |
| 18:05 | where? | |
| 18:05 | i think the same.. | |
| 18:06 | but where? | |
| 18:06 | cait, where i add a longer barcode | |
| 18:09 | cait | I would try and just add a new item with a longer barcode |
| 18:09 | but not sure what will happen - probably won't work | |
| 18:09 | mib_d05vwu | ok |
| 18:11 | hdl | gmcharlt: around ? |
| 18:16 | mib_d05vwu | yes its work |
| 18:16 | :) | |
| 18:16 | add a loger barcode... | |
| 18:16 | and now this incremental from this | |
| 18:17 | cait other question... | |
| 18:17 | nengard | screencast time - will log back in when done :) |
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| 18:18 | cait | ah cool :) |
| 18:18 | mib_d05vwu | yes |
| 18:18 | other question...why dont show me a renewal date? | |
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| 18:19 | mib_d05vwu | appears in blank |
| 18:20 | jcamins | mib_d05vwu: you probably shouldn't be editing items that are already checked out. |
| 18:21 | mib_d05vwu | mmm.. i dont und.... |
| 18:21 | jcamins | mib_d05vwu: what are you trying to do? |
| 18:21 | mib_d05vwu | ok |
| 18:22 | cait | you want to renew an item that is checked out? |
| 18:22 | mib_d05vwu | i lend a book |
| 18:22 | this show me a return date | |
| 18:23 | but....if i do a renewal of this book | |
| 18:23 | the same book... | |
| 18:23 | dont show me retun date | |
| 18:23 | cait | you renewed successfully but the date didn't change? |
| 18:23 | mib_d05vwu | appears in blank |
| 18:24 | cait | that's ok |
| 18:24 | the due date field is only there to set a different date than the one calculated from your loan rules | |
| 18:24 | mib_d05vwu | yes, appears in blanck |
| 18:24 | :( | |
| 18:24 | jcamins | mib_d05vwu: yes, it's supposed to be blank. |
| 18:24 | mib_d05vwu | if not then return the book |
| 18:25 | cait | normally a book will be renewed for the time you set as loan period in your circ matrix under administration |
| 18:25 | if you want to renew it to a specific date you can enter one in the field | |
| 18:25 | mib_d05vwu | yes i know that... |
| 18:25 | but dont show me nothind | |
| 18:26 | cait | there are different options for the calculation of a renewal - you can add it to the date due or it can be calculated from the current date |
| 18:26 | jcamins | mib_d05vwu: maybe you could take a screenshot and show us what you're talking about? |
| 18:26 | cait | if you renew and the date does not change, and the book was checked out today, it's probably calculated form today |
| 18:27 | mib_d05vwu | the problem is that dont show me return date, when i renewal |
| 18:28 | ok | |
| 18:28 | screenshot | |
| 18:29 | how add a screenshot? | |
| 18:30 | rangi | Morning |
| 18:30 | cait | morning rangi |
| 18:30 | can you upload the pic somewhere? | |
| 18:31 | mib_d05vwu | http://mibpaste.com/J8xEpe |
| 18:32 | http://miburl.com/NeaL6Q | |
| 18:33 | bg | morning |
| 18:33 | jcamins | Morning. |
| 18:33 | cait | morning bg |
| 18:35 | jcamins | mib_d05vwu: http://bywatersolutions.com/20[…]easy-screenshots/ |
| 18:37 | mib_d05vwu | ok |
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| 18:43 | druthb | howdy, #koha! Showing the Erikson Institute the IRC! :) New Koha library! |
| 18:44 | wizzy_lunch | Hi peeps :) |
| 18:44 | rangi | Hi erikson institute |
| 18:44 | Ata marie from aotearoa | |
| 18:45 | bg | hi there |
| 18:45 | wahanui | privet, bg |
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| 18:45 | bg | privet? |
| 18:45 | rangi | @wunder wellington nz |
| 18:45 | huginn | rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 18.0�C (7:00 AM NZDT on February 22, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 18.0�C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady). |
| 18:45 | bg | @wunder 93109 |
| 18:45 | huginn | bg: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 14.0�C (10:50 AM PST on February 21, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 7.0�C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016.1 hPa (Steady). |
| 18:45 | druthb | @wunder chicago, IL |
| 18:45 | huginn | druthb: The current temperature in Chicago, Illinois is -1.6�C (12:51 PM CST on February 21, 2011). Conditions: Light Ice Pellets. Humidity: 90%. Dew Point: -3.0�C. Windchill: -4.0�C. Pressure: 29.17 in 987.7 hPa (Rising). Winter Weather Advisory in effect until 6 am CST Tuesday... |
| 18:45 | rangi | bg: the bot speaks a few languages |
| 18:46 | * rangi | wins |
| 18:46 | bg | yup rangi wins |
| 18:47 | druthb | wahanui: druthb? |
| 18:47 | wahanui | i heard druthb was quite possibly insane, but she fits right in at ByWater Solutions, because of it. |
| 18:48 | rangi | Excuse |
| 18:48 | druthb | documentation? |
| 18:48 | wahanui | it has been said that documentation is at http://koha-community.org/documentation/ |
| 18:48 | rangi | wahanui: excuse |
| 18:48 | wahanui | rangi: terrorist activities |
| 18:48 | rangi | I'm not sure that one will fly wahanui |
| 18:49 | wahanui: excuse | |
| 18:49 | wahanui | rangi: Police are examining all internet packets in the search for a narco-net-trafficker |
| 18:49 | druthb | @karma |
| 18:49 | huginn | druthb: Highest karma: "chris" (236), "oleonard" (235), and "gmcharlt" (216). Lowest karma: "<!" (-88), "failed" (-49), and "-" (-34). You (druthb) are ranked 12 out of 1234. |
| 18:49 | rangi | There we go |
| 18:49 | @marc 510 | |
| 18:49 | huginn | rangi: Citations or references to published bibliographic descriptions, reviews, abstracts, or indexes of the content of the described item. (Repeatable) [a,b,c,x,3,6,8] |
| 18:50 | rangi | Sadly I knew that |
| 18:50 | * cait | waves to druthb and the ericson institute |
| 18:50 | druthb | you're a geek, rangi, but we love you. |
| 18:50 | * druthb | waves to cait. |
| 18:50 | jcamins | rangi: but do you know what the second indicator should be? |
| 18:50 | cait | undef? *guesses* |
| 18:51 | rangi | jcamins: msdiaf? |
| 18:51 | jcamins | msdiaf? |
| 18:51 | cait: yeah. | |
| 18:51 | cait | hehe |
| 18:51 | jcamins | Lots of people get the first and second idicators confused on that one. |
| 18:52 | I see lots of records that are _4 instead of 4_. | |
| 18:52 | druthb | I'm hoping that Erikson will jump in with us some. Thanx for the greets n stuff. Back to ye old grindstone. See y'all this evening. |
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| 19:04 | jcamins | If I were to copy all the files in var/lib/zebradb from one machine to another, would that work? |
| 19:07 | rangi | maybe |
| 19:08 | but i wouldnt bet money on it | |
| 19:08 | jcamins | Phooey. |
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| 19:08 | jcamins | So far as I can figure out, my setup is now identical to this one client's, but they continue to have all sorts of problems that I can't duplicate. |
| 19:09 | rangi | man i hope thats not that guys real ad admin password |
| 19:09 | jcamins | rangi: what? |
| 19:09 | rangi | posted to the list, and in here |
| 19:09 | i was gonna scour the logs of it | |
| 19:09 | jcamins | Huh? |
| 19:09 | rangi | but its out there now |
| 19:09 | jcamins | Yes, that's a good idea. |
| 19:09 | rangi | check the koha ldap authentification |
| 19:09 | thread | |
| 19:09 | jcamins | Oh. |
| 19:10 | Ouch. | |
| 19:10 | rangi | no point scouring the logs, hes posted to a list that is archived all over the place |
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| 19:10 | * rangi | emails to tell him to change the password now |
| 19:10 | jcamins | Probably wise. |
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| 19:11 | rangi | hi nengard |
| 19:11 | nengard | hiya |
| 19:11 | just finished two more tutorial videos | |
| 19:11 | waiting for them to convert to the right format so i can upload them | |
| 19:12 | jcamins | nengard++ |
| 19:12 | @karma nengard | |
| 19:12 | huginn | jcamins: Karma for "nengard" has been increased 143 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 143. |
| 19:14 | nengard | other video ideas from the crowd? Here's what we have so far (not counting today's): http://bywatersolutions.blip.tv |
| 19:16 | jcamins | Reports. |
| 19:19 | nengard | that's one i did today :) |
| 19:19 | jcamins | nengard: then no. |
| 19:19 | nengard | :) |
| 19:19 | cait | override renewals? |
| 19:20 | had to explain tht a lot of times | |
| 19:21 | but it's probably already there :) | |
| 19:25 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit32: Translation update for 3.2.4 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b47b9bbbd78ff6590> / Revert "Partial fix for Bug 5745, Overdues with fines report not showing titles" <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]3b513008696726ce0> / Revert "Bug 5759 : displaying 2nd email if there is one on print template for borrowers" <http:// |
| 19:26 | nengard | cait, no i don't think i did that one |
| 19:26 | i'll add that to my list | |
| 19:27 | since it's kind of hard to find (i agree) | |
| 19:27 | jcamins | Bug 5785 - anyone else encountered that? |
| 19:27 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5785 enhancement, P5, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW, Holds should catch new acquisitions |
| 19:27 | cait | nengard: cool :) |
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| 19:29 | nengard | logging off to record cait's suggestion |
| 19:29 | be back in 30 min or so | |
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| 19:32 | magnuse | hiya NateC |
| 19:32 | NateC | hiya magnuse |
| 19:32 | rangi | heya NateC |
| 19:33 | NateC | Hi rangi! |
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| 19:46 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote branch 'kc/new/enh/bug_3550' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]670af0fdde431d9c2> / Merge remote branch 'kc/new/bug_2742' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]bc43b4df095aee583> / Bug 3550 : Display changes needed in opac-results-grouped too <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/? |
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| 19:54 | nengard | just for cait: http://bywatersolutions.blip.tv/file/4795079/ |
| 19:54 | cait | nengard++ |
| 19:54 | thx :) | |
| 19:54 | magnuse | lucky cait (and us) |
| 19:54 | nengard | no prob!! |
| 19:54 | I'm up for more ideas | |
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| 19:54 | nengard | I promised a video a week and I'm running out of ideas of my own :) |
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| 19:56 | magnuse | and it's just monday?!? ;-) |
| 19:56 | hiya wizzyrea! | |
| 19:56 | wizzyrea | hi :) |
| 19:59 | What is funny about this table? | |
| 19:59 | http://screencast.com/t/vfQLWYzQW | |
| 20:00 | cait | hm have seen that before |
| 20:00 | is it anew install? | |
| 20:00 | wizzyrea | yea |
| 20:00 | err | |
| 20:00 | define "new" | |
| 20:01 | cait | I think my problem was related to miss one of the optional things during install |
| 20:01 | wizzyrea | did I install it today? no. Is it running (nearly) the newest codebase? yes. |
| 20:01 | hmm | |
| 20:01 | cait | one of the messaging somethings you can choose |
| 20:01 | wizzyrea | it's like this in at least two installs |
| 20:01 | * wizzyrea | goes to check the demos |
| 20:02 | cait | ok, no idea then |
| 20:02 | bencahill | so guys, everything is in the db, right? (e.g. if I want to start from scratch, backup, or restore from a backup, that's just the db?) |
| 20:02 | wizzyrea | hm it's right in the bywater demo |
| 20:02 | rangi | bencahill: yes |
| 20:03 | liw | bencahill, there's configuration files too |
| 20:03 | wizzyrea | it's about 9db revisions back from where I'm at |
| 20:03 | bencahill | ah right, but that's just the koha-conf.xml? (and koha-httpd.conf, depending on your setup) |
| 20:03 | liw: ^^ | |
| 20:04 | rangi | the zebra config files too |
| 20:04 | bencahill | rangi: good, just checking :) |
| 20:04 | rangi: right | |
| 20:04 | cait | bencahill: if you don't change the indexing, have a sip server or ldap :) |
| 20:04 | bencahill | cait: well yeah, just setting up a very basic install here :) |
| 20:04 | * bencahill | loves open source support :D |
| 20:05 | magnuse | wizzyrea: head.bibkat.no is up to date as of right now - login: demo/demo |
| 20:06 | wizzyrea | oo ty magnuse |
| 20:07 | very ty, it's not wonky in yours | |
| 20:09 | magnuse | cool, i guess... |
| 20:09 | wizzyrea | that just means it's something I've got going in ours |
| 20:10 | bc I have it in two installs | |
| 20:10 | the problem | |
| 20:10 | wahanui | the problem is, like, that on order is not treated differently than the other not for loan values |
| 20:10 | wizzyrea | forget the problem |
| 20:10 | wahanui | wizzyrea: I forgot problem |
| 20:12 | * magnuse | wishes it was always that easy... ;-) |
| 20:12 | wizzyrea | me too |
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| 20:17 | wizzyrea | magnuse++ |
| 20:17 | cait | magnuse++ |
| 20:17 | wizzyrea | thanks for updating your demo, really helpful :) |
| 20:18 | magnuse | thanks, no problem (i try to keep it up to date almost on a daily basis anyway...) |
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| 20:22 | magnuse | wizzyrea: could your table trouble be related to bug 5765? |
| 20:22 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5765 trivial, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, patron messaging form template tests for SMS inconsistently |
| 20:23 | wizzyrea | ooooo |
| 20:23 | yes, that has to be it | |
| 20:24 | and there's no way to nullify that table | |
| 20:24 | syspref | |
| 20:24 | ty ty for finding that | |
| 20:24 | magnuse++ again | |
| 20:24 | magnuse | ooh, thanks again - i had this nagging feeling it sounded kind of familiar |
| 20:25 | wizzyrea | so |
| 20:25 | could it be that even if there's nothing there | |
| 20:25 | nothing in that syspref | |
| 20:25 | if something was *ever* in there | |
| 20:26 | it might be broken | |
| 20:26 | even like, a space | |
| 20:26 | magnuse: you are a genius | |
| 20:26 | sekjal | wizzyrea: oh, that's fixed |
| 20:26 | that screen image you showed | |
| 20:26 | wizzyrea | not in my test install it's not |
| 20:26 | :/ | |
| 20:27 | db18 | |
| 20:27 | 3.03 | |
| 20:27 | sekjal | bump to 19 |
| 20:27 | wizzyrea | srs, lol |
| 20:27 | k | |
| 20:27 | sekjal | fix was put out just a couple days ago |
| 20:27 | wizzyrea | cool beans :) |
| 20:27 | sekjal | the SMS bug shown above was a side-effect bug from trying to solve it |
| 20:27 | wizzyrea | aha |
| 20:28 | what I did, for now | |
| 20:28 | magnuse | wizzyrea: hardly... but it goes to show skimming through all those bug reports is not a total waste of time... ;-) |
| 20:28 | wizzyrea | :D |
| 20:29 | i just added something that looks like a driver so that the table looks pretty. It won't go into production that way | |
| 20:29 | but very good to know that the fix is in | |
| 20:29 | magnuse | fixed_bugs++ |
| 20:29 | wizzyrea | sekjal++ for helpful, timely info |
| 20:30 | sekjal | :) |
| 20:30 | just found that the fix for 3319 breaks the previous work on 4945... but that's easy to patch, too | |
| 20:30 | wizzyrea | bug 3319 |
| 20:30 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3319 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, RESOLVED FIXED, Need a nicer error message when attempting to add a patron with no libraries defined |
| 20:31 | wizzyrea | bug 4945 |
| 20:31 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4945 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW, Patron search is limited by default to the currently logged-in library |
| 20:31 | wizzyrea | the 2nd way more important than the 1st |
| 20:31 | but happy it's ez to fix | |
| 20:31 | sekjal | repeated variable name |
| 20:32 | wizzyrea | oops |
| 20:34 | cait | good night all |
| 20:34 | wizzyrea | gnite cait |
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| 20:35 | bg | hey JesseM |
| 20:35 | wizzyrea | hi JesseM |
| 20:35 | JesseM | hello all |
| 20:36 | NateC | Hi Everyone, I would love to introduce the newest member of the ByWater Team, Jesse Maseto |
| 20:36 | wizzyrea | Oo! Hi there! |
| 20:36 | welcome :) | |
| 20:36 | http://screencast.com/t/veNtGShW at one point I had that column hidden with jquery, but for the life of me I can't nuke it again | |
| 20:37 | JesseM | thank you wizzyrea |
| 20:38 | rangi | hi JesseM |
| 20:38 | JesseM | great to be a part of the Koha community. cant wait to work with you all. |
| 20:38 | hello rangi | |
| 20:38 | * jcamins | waves to his new coworker. |
| 20:38 | jcamins | Has anyone else experienced an item with a NULL homebranch breaking the fines cron job? |
| 20:40 | nengard | Hi JesseM |
| 20:41 | rangi | nope, but i can imagine it would, having a null homebranch seems like a pretty bad situation for an item to be in, id hope it would break stuff or at least yell loudly so it can be put in a branch, rather than silently failing |
| 20:41 | JesseM | Hi nengard |
| 20:42 | jcamins | rangi: it breaks stuff, silently. |
| 20:42 | space_librarian | like an evil ninja? |
| 20:42 | rangi | cron doesnt even complain? |
| 20:42 | jcamins | rangi: sometimes. |
| 20:43 | rangi | well that should be fixed to complain all the time loudly then :) |
| 20:44 | jcamins | It seems to me that the fines cron job is the wrong place to complain, though. |
| 20:44 | It should be complaining at the point when the record enters into the system. | |
| 20:44 | rangi | there too |
| 20:44 | but ppl can poke at the db, it should complain anywhere that it might be a problem | |
| 20:45 | jcamins | I mean, sure, an error message there too, but a vendor should not be able to send invalid records. |
| 20:45 | rangi | exception handling ftw |
| 20:45 | yep, bulkmarcimport.pl will complain | |
| 20:45 | wizzyrea | the bib merging function: does or does not (or is or is not supposed to) merge holds? |
| 20:45 | * magnuse | greets JesseM (better late than never...) |
| 20:45 | rangi | wizzyrea: you'll need to ask biblibre |
| 20:46 | wizzyrea | okies |
| 20:46 | jcamins | wizzyrea: I think there's a bug report about that. |
| 20:46 | * space_librarian | joins magnuse in late greetings |
| 20:46 | JesseM | thank you magnuse! |
| 20:46 | wizzyrea | you are right: bug 5459 |
| 20:46 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5459 critical, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, merging records loses holds from one |
| 20:53 | sekjal | the biggest technical problem with that is how to order the holds queue once the two records are merged |
| 20:59 | wizzyrea | right, i imagine that's tough |
| 21:00 | what might help would be an option to "export hold queue" from a bib | |
| 21:00 | so at least you have a list of the holds | |
| 21:00 | I suppose you could just print the dang thing :P | |
| 21:01 | sekjal | ordering by date placed would make the most sense most of the time, but there'd need to be a warning |
| 21:01 | in case of any manual reordering having taken place | |
| 21:01 | wizzyrea | add a note: automerge? |
| 21:01 | or merged from position x on bib XXXXX | |
| 21:01 | sekjal | could do |
| 21:01 | so long as it added to any existing note, rather than replaced | |
| 21:02 | wizzyrea | right |
| 21:02 | sekjal | I've got some code that'll fix priority orders.... so doing it this way won't take too much more |
| 21:04 | wizzyrea | I can't think of any reason why adding a note with the old priority wouldn't be sufficient. If you have a bib with a ton of manual edits, it's probably better to not automerge them anyway |
| 21:05 | sekjal | perhaps a 'select all holds from both bibs', 'order by date created', 'loop through and add to kept biblio' approach |
| 21:06 | wizzyrea | a tickbox "merge holds? (Warning: holds will be ordered based upon date placed. Old priority number will be in the notes" |
| 21:08 | sekjal | even techier: zipper merge. alternate between holds on each biblio, 1,1,2,2,3,3,4,5,6 |
| 21:08 | add a checkbox for the merger to pick their strategy | |
| 21:08 | then we can implement more down the road, if need be | |
| 21:09 | wizzyrea | well that's better than no merge at all |
| 21:09 | * jcamins | imagines all sorts of interesting possibilities for complex merges. |
| 21:09 | sekjal | looking forward to diving into this, but unfortunately, I must depart, and pack for my trip to Maine |
| 21:09 | have a great night, #koha! | |
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| 21:10 | wizzyrea | by... oh bother. |
| 21:12 | a stopgap for that though, since we should *never* lose data | |
| 21:12 | would be to spit out the un-merged holds as an error. | |
| 21:12 | "This item had holds on it, here's what we know about them so you can merge: " | |
| 21:14 | * magnuse | wishes #koha a good night (or other time of the day - you choose!) |
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| 21:30 | wizzyrea | so philosophically speaking |
| 21:30 | should we assume that if you are deleting a bib record | |
| 21:31 | that you don't care about any holds attached to that bib? | |
| 21:31 | also, if you are deleting the last item, should you be alerted that there are still holds on the item? | |
| 21:32 | rangi | no and yes |
| 21:32 | assumption is the mother of all f**k ups | |
| 21:32 | wizzyrea | ok cool that's the direction I was leaning |
| 21:32 | because right, now, we do both | |
| 21:32 | rangi | yes |
| 21:33 | wizzyrea | we assume that you don't care, and we don't alert |
| 21:33 | rangi | yep, its a definite bug that should be fixed |
| 21:33 | * wizzyrea | goes to file it |
| 21:33 | rangi | we check for issues, but not holds |
| 21:33 | wizzyrea: add subscriptions to the list | |
| 21:33 | we need to check those too | |
| 21:33 | wizzyrea | k |
| 21:34 | rangi | deleting a biblio tht has a journal subscription attached can make a big pile of mess |
| 21:35 | jcamins | Bleck. |
| 21:35 | wizzyrea | bug 1959 |
| 21:35 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1959 normal, P3, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED, No warning when you delete a biblio with a subscription |
| 21:35 | jcamins | The exterminator went to Manhattan instead of coming here. |
| 21:35 | Meaning that we emptied our kitchen for naught. | |
| 21:35 | wizzyrea | so that's there. |
| 21:38 | nengard | so basically we should never ever delete bib records |
| 21:39 | rangi | not until those bugs are fixed, no |
| 21:41 | wizzyrea | or you have to be super-vigilant |
| 21:41 | about checking before you delete | |
| 21:41 | :/ | |
| 21:45 | nengard | hmmm |
| 22:02 | jcamins | Dinner time. |
| 22:02 | Good night, #koha | |
| 22:02 | jcamins is now known as jcamins_away | |
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| 22:13 | wizzyrea | bug 5790 |
| 22:13 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5790 normal, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Deleting a biblio should alert/fail if there are existent subscriptions and holds |
| 22:22 | rangi | make sure you link 1959 to that |
| 22:22 | wizzyrea | oh yes good point ty |
| 22:22 | bug 1959 | |
| 22:22 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1959 normal, P3, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED, No warning when you delete a biblio with a subscription |
| 22:24 | wizzyrea | sorry bw peeps for all the mail :P |
| 22:24 | I was only adding a CC! | |
| 22:27 | nengard | no prob |
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| 22:31 | rangi | were you gonna link the 2 bugs? |
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| 22:34 | wizzyrea | yep |
| 22:34 | did I do it wrong? | |
| 22:34 | rangi | i use the depends or blocks links |
| 22:34 | wizzyrea | ohh... I added the "see also" url |
| 22:34 | rangi | i made 5790 depend on 1959 |
| 22:35 | wizzyrea | ok I see what you mean no |
| 22:35 | now* | |
| 22:39 | can't say I've ever had to do that one before... I'll know better next time | |
| 22:40 | rangi | cool :) |
| 22:40 | eythian | I really want to find whoever implemented liberty/concordance's CSV export and give them a good ... talking to. |
| 22:40 | they output unparsable data :( | |
| 22:41 | wizzyrea | it seems like you may want to give them more than that |
| 22:43 | identify | @wunder 56001 |
| 22:43 | huginn | identify: The current temperature in MSU Physics Dept, Mankato, Minnesota is -6.2�C (4:49 PM CST on February 21, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 98%. Dew Point: -6.0�C. Windchill: -11.0�C. Pressure: 29.84 in 1010.4 hPa (Steady). Winter Weather Advisory in effect until 6 PM CST this evening... |
| 22:43 | wizzyrea | brr |
| 22:47 | bencahill | would squid speed up koha (on a slow-ish server)? |
| 22:48 | rangi | not really no |
| 22:48 | eythian | I wouldn't expect it to a whole lot |
| 22:48 | bencahill | ...(bottleneck is cpu) |
| 22:48 | rangi | because you cant actually cache the results |
| 22:48 | not unless you want to lie to patrons ;) | |
| 22:48 | bencahill | rangi: anything I can do to make it go faster? |
| 22:48 | rangi: lol :) | |
| 22:48 | eythian | more CPU :) |
| 22:49 | rangi | bencahill: put the expires headers out on the .css .js and image files |
| 22:49 | bencahill | eythian: doesn't seem like it should be that slow on a p4 1.6 tho, right? :P |
| 22:49 | rangi: not slow like that, I'm on a lan :D | |
| 22:49 | eythian | hmm, probably shouldn't be. Is it really CPU, or is it database? |
| 22:49 | rangi | its more likely ram thats the bottleneck that cpu |
| 22:49 | eythian | (or RAM, yeah) |
| 22:49 | bencahill | eythian: dunno, top shows the .pl scripts taking up 90-100% cpu during a pageload |
| 22:49 | rangi, eythian: not using any swap... | |
| 22:50 | rangi | yeah, that doesnt really matter (the swap) |
| 22:50 | its how much RAM mysql can use | |
| 22:50 | it wont use more than you allocate it | |
| 22:50 | eythian | but if it's the .pl using the CPU, rather than mysql... |
| 22:50 | bencahill | rangi: well the ram is not anywhere near filled up (like 200MB out of 600MB), that's what I'm saying |
| 22:50 | rangi: o_o d'oh :) | |
| 22:50 | eythian: yeah, the .pl's | |
| 22:51 | rangi | and yeah 600MB is a tiny amount of RAM :) |
| 22:51 | top is not a good indicator | |
| 22:51 | bencahill | rangi: depends on your usage scenario :) |
| 22:51 | rangi: why is that? | |
| 22:52 | doesn't show disk usage? | |
| 22:52 | rangi | because it will sit at 90% when its mostly asking mysql to do stuff |
| 22:52 | eythian | rangi: it shouldn't... |
| 22:52 | rangi | it does |
| 22:52 | eythian | unless the driver is spinlocking or something terrible |
| 22:52 | bencahill | rangi: what do you use that's better? |
| 22:52 | rangi | use the profiler |
| 22:52 | bencahill | the profiler? |
| 22:53 | rangi | and yeah 600MB is too little to run apache, mysql, zebra |
| 22:53 | bencahill | not running zebra... |
| 22:53 | rangi | well theres half your problem right there then too :) |
| 22:53 | nozebra is much slower | |
| 22:53 | bencahill | rangi: zebra doesn't affect browsing the admin interface, does it? |
| 22:54 | I thought it was just searching... | |
| 22:54 | rangi | yes |
| 22:54 | and yeah if browsing the interface isnt coming up within seconds, theres something up, and chances are its mysql, because browsing the interface isnt doing anything else | |
| 22:55 | * bencahill | times |
| 22:55 | rangi | a bunch of selects, and outputting a template |
| 22:55 | bencahill | 5 seconds for going from home to circulation after login |
| 22:56 | rangi: right, shouldn't take that long :P | |
| 22:56 | rangi | try tuning your mysql |
| 22:57 | bencahill | will do, thanks |
| 22:57 | rangi | and fyi http://search.cpan.org/dist/Devel-NYTProf/ |
| 22:58 | also, what XML parser are you using? | |
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| 23:37 | druthb | @wunder Chicago, IL |
| 23:37 | huginn | druthb: The current temperature in Chicago, Illinois is -2.3�C (5:43 PM CST on February 21, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: -4.0�C. Windchill: -2.0�C. Pressure: 29.25 in 990.4 hPa (Steady). Winter Weather Advisory in effect until 6 am CST Tuesday... |
| 23:37 | druthb | at least the sleet stopped. for now. |
| 23:37 | bg | heya druthb |
| 23:41 | druthb | hi, bg! |
| 23:41 | just popping in a bit before dinner with a really great library director, then down to a mess of nitty-gritty tonight. | |
| 23:43 | bg | enjoy |
| 23:59 | rangi | crap |
| 23:59 | another earthquake |
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