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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 00:26 | snail | scones in the oven for lunch... |
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| 02:12 | mtj | penis fencing is similar to cock fighting? |
| 02:12 | … or is my babelfish just playing up | |
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| 03:39 | mtj | $tinfold_hat = 'ON'... |
| 03:40 | http://www.groklaw.net/article[…]20110204154544820 | |
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| 05:29 | rangi | hmm I don't know enough php, anyone who knows php around? |
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| 11:40 | slef | rangi: you still there? :-/ |
| 11:45 | cait | hi slef |
| 11:45 | almost 1am in nz - hope he is not here | |
| 11:46 | slef | cait: yeah, I guessed not, but he was asking about php. |
| 11:46 | cait | php? |
| 11:47 | doesn't sound like rangi :) | |
| 11:52 | slef | rangi> 05:33:23> hmm I don't know enough php, anyone who knows php |
| 11:52 | around? | |
| 11:52 | cait: nothing is surprising any more | |
| 11:53 | cait | right :) |
| 11:53 | slef | Mammon slept. And the beast reborn spread over the earth and its numbers grew legion. And they proclaimed the times and sacrificed crops unto the fire, with the cunning of foxes. And they built a new world in their own image as promised by the sacred words, and spoke of the beast with their children. Mammon awoke, and lo! it was naught but a follower. |
| 11:53 | (from The Book of Mozilla, 11:9 (10th Edition)) | |
| 12:01 | cait | ? |
| 12:01 | the book of mozilla? | |
| 12:12 | slef | cait: put about:mozilla into your browser |
| 12:12 | cait | hm, xml error |
| 12:13 | slef | huh? ow! an xml error in an easter egg |
| 12:14 | cait | will try later on the other laptop |
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| 15:13 | * slef | blanks a bit more spam from the wiki :-/ |
| 15:41 | druthb | slef++ |
| 15:45 | slef | druthb: I'd really like someone to install a useful non-barrier-to-entry anti-spam tool on the wiki, but I don't like mediawiki and don't really want to get involved. |
| 15:46 | druthb | I'm not terribly fond of mediawiki, myself; It's got a *lot* of moving parts that may or may not actually be useful ones. |
| 15:48 | Being kind of a low-level nuts-and-bolts girl, I prefer the brainless simplicity of dokuwiki, but that's just my opinion--I'm sure other folks have their own, and they may be more valid than mine. | |
| 15:49 | cait | dokuwiki++ |
| 15:57 | slef | dokuwiki, tracwiki, abusemod, ... |
| 15:58 | but I haven't time to care for the wiki software just now, so I stood aside | |
| 15:58 | sadly, it seems that whoever installed mediawiki hasn't time either :-/ | |
| 15:59 | and another spam page is created on the wiki... | |
| 15:59 | druthb | harrumph! |
| 16:00 | slef | zapped |
| 16:00 | Chris seems up and banning already this morning | |
| 16:13 | cait | he is up early |
| 16:39 | slef | I think I've just found a fairly obscure bug in rebuild_zebra.pl :) |
| 16:40 | * druthb | perks up, since she is running rebuild_zebra *right now*. |
| 16:40 | slef | it'll only matter if you're bending the zebra config into strange shapes |
| 16:40 | druthb | Other than using ICU chains, we don't do anything too bizarre. Pretty conventional folks. |
| 16:41 | slef | but you know you name the biblioserver at /yazgfs/config/biblioserver in koha-conf.xml? |
| 16:41 | druthb | yeah.... |
| 16:41 | slef | I'm pretty sure rebuild_zebra.pl is ignoring that and just using biblioserver as the name. |
| 16:41 | druthb | oh. yeah, that name would be "holy" then, in the config, and it probably should not be, if possible. |
| 16:43 | cait | I am not sure I understand what you are talkig about - but I am all for solving bugs ;) |
| 16:43 | * druthb | doesn't like scripts with Holy Magic in them; some clever person is *bound* to trip over the holiness eventually. |
| 16:43 | thinks... | |
| 16:44 | druthb | Fixing this bug would allow one Zebra server to operate for many small databases, rather than each instance of Koha having to run its' own instance of Zebra. That has some mighty implications for large-clustering. |
| 16:46 | * slef | reminds druthb who he works for and what his first contributions to Koha were |
| 16:46 | cait | I think we were not here back then slef ;) |
| 16:47 | druthb | I was not. |
| 16:48 | slef | heh |
| 16:49 | I did some work on getting koha to run on VirtualHosts | |
| 16:49 | druthb | :) |
| 16:49 | slef | particularly getting the installer to play nice |
| 16:49 | druthb | slef++ , retroactively, for that, since it has made her life pretty dang wonderful. |
| 16:51 | cait | I am a big fan of the installer too |
| 16:53 | slef | Steve Tonneson did it before me, hdl, chris_n and others since me |
| 16:53 | IIRC, but check history for who did what when | |
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| 16:53 | cait | I never met steve tonneson |
| 16:53 | * druthb | is glad she's not working for PTFS/LL any more, so that self will share these useful bits of knowledge with her. |
| 16:53 | slef | hrm, it seems lots of zebra files have to be copies to run two in one |
| 16:54 | cait | zdf_mediathek-- |
| 16:54 | it keeps dying on me every few minutes | |
| 16:54 | flash-- | |
| 16:56 | Ahmuck-Sr left #koha | |
| 17:00 | slef | druthb: you're still not working for the best, but you're not on the dark side any more. |
| 17:01 | BTW, reed++ for the "hijack" post. I wouldn't write that just now because I don't need to blowback. | |
| 17:01 | erm, need the blowback | |
| 17:01 | druthb | :) Opinions vary, and we'll just have to agree to disagree on that one....I'm happier than I've been in a 20 year career in the library biz, so it's not all bad. |
| 17:02 | cait | hijack post? |
| 17:10 | slef | cait: http://koha.1045719.n5.nabble.[…]9597p3372058.html |
| 17:13 | cait | ah |
| 17:13 | thx slef :) | |
| 17:27 | slef | oh crikey, it's even worse :-( |
| 17:28 | rangi | slef: for the packages and running multiple kohas, we ended up copying most |
| 17:29 | you might want to check out how liw and robin set that up, it works well | |
| 17:29 | * druthb | waves to rangi |
| 17:29 | slef | rangi: do the packages run multiple zebras? |
| 17:30 | * slef | still hasn't got to checking them out |
| 17:30 | slef | heh "FIXME: this should be handled using Context.pm" :-/ |
| 17:31 | * slef | looks at the packages |
| 17:33 | rangi | slef: yes they do |
| 17:33 | slef | rangi: :-( |
| 17:35 | rangi | memory footprint is small enough, and reduces the risk of one site messing up the others |
| 17:38 | hiya druthb | |
| 17:38 | druthb | :D |
| 17:38 | cait | hi rangi |
| 17:38 | slef | I think it's 24Mb empty. No-one cares about wasting memory and unnecessary hardcoding any more? |
| 17:38 | bbl | |
| 17:39 | rangi | well, people care, but people have 24 hours in a day too |
| 17:39 | cait | not if you want to get some sleep |
| 17:40 | rangi | and the separation actually works pretty well, until we understand zebra more, i quite like that one site cant take out the indexes for all the others |
| 17:41 | liw | *some* days people 86401 seconds! |
| 17:41 | rangi | heh |
| 17:42 | @later tell slef it was this https://vufind.svn.sourceforge[…]/Drivers/Koha.php i was asking about php for | |
| 17:42 | huginn | rangi: The operation succeeded. |
| 17:42 | rangi | @later tell slef specifically how do you do sql placeholders in php, cos that looks sql injectiony to my untrained eye |
| 17:42 | huginn | rangi: The operation succeeded. |
| 17:45 | slef | back for a mo |
| 17:47 | rangi: basic PHP doesn't do placeholders. You have to http://php.net/mysql_real_escape_string or cast (like "foo = ".((int)$foo) ) everything you can't trust. | |
| 17:47 | rangi | i think the real win for taht driver is to rewrite it to use the ilsdi api |
| 17:47 | slef | That's why so much PHP is an injection haven. |
| 17:48 | rangi | ahhh |
| 17:48 | hokay, i might put write a patch, on my ever growing list | |
| 17:48 | slef | so I think whether that code is safe depends on whether vufind's $id is trustworthy |
| 17:49 | rangi | right, i suspect (not sure) that you can manipulate it with a url |
| 17:49 | slef | heh, linking to opensource.org for the gpl? really? |
| 17:49 | irony has died through overwork | |
| 17:50 | rangi | actually my main worry is its talking to the db at all, ignoring things like sysprefs and circrules |
| 17:51 | but then i had a hmm, shouldnt this be escaped moment too | |
| 17:51 | ok, time to go start getting the kids ready for kindegarten | |
| 17:52 | because their mum is a pittsburgher, today is a big day for them | |
| 17:54 | slef | ? |
| 17:55 | rangi | superbowl, pittsburgh vs green bay |
| 17:55 | slef | oh yeah, US teen sex trade peak day |
| 17:55 | ;-) | |
| 17:55 | rangi | heh |
| 17:55 | laurel spent the weekend making http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierogi | |
| 17:55 | slef | I know them. |
| 17:56 | Too slow to make from scratch ;-) I buy packets. | |
| 17:56 | rangi | :) |
| 17:56 | and she is taking them in for all the kids at kindergarten | |
| 17:57 | liw: i told her to call it hand egg | |
| 17:57 | and now i really should get them ready | |
| 17:57 | bbl | |
| 17:57 | * druthb | had never heard of a pierogi before moving to DC; now she's a big fan of them. |
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| 18:02 | slef | http://www.poconorecord.com/ap[…]060307/-1/NEWSMAP |
| 18:03 | wow, excuse the obnoxious JS overlay, that appeared after I pasted | |
| 18:03 | wahanui1 | slef: Please state the nature of the technical emergency |
| 18:07 | slef | I guess why I get a bit frustrated when finding things like hardcoded zebra parameters ignoring the config file is that it means that someone has got poor code into our beloved koha again. |
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| 18:48 | darling | good morning, koha |
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| 18:48 | magnusenger is now known as magnuse | |
| 18:50 | druthb | hi, magnuse! :D |
| 18:50 | magnuse | kia ora #koha - checking in from OSL |
| 18:50 | hiya druthb | |
| 18:52 | cait | hi magnus :) |
| 18:53 | magnuse | guten abend cait |
| 18:54 | cait | will you show up next week? or leave me alone again? ;) |
| 18:55 | magnuse | cait: i will show up every day as far as thursday next week |
| 18:55 | cait | yay :) |
| 18:56 | magnuse | woohoo |
| 18:56 | will be good to get some actual work done :) | |
| 18:57 | * cait | will try not to distract you too much :) |
| 18:57 | magnuse | then a one day course on accounting on the friday in the week after next |
| 18:57 | hehe | |
| 18:58 | cait | uh accounting |
| 18:58 | my current distance study course is accounting | |
| 18:59 | hard to make progress there | |
| 19:07 | magnuse | the course i am going to will be very practical, mostly how to use the acc system i use, an i feel a real need for it, so it will be good i hope... |
| 19:09 | otherwise i will hide in here... :) | |
| 19:14 | liw | darling, hi there! |
| 19:15 | darling | liw! |
| 19:15 | hi | |
| 19:16 | rangi | back |
| 19:17 | cait | magnuse: probably I am missing the practical need :) |
| 19:20 | magnuse | cait: that is an all important source of inspiration when it comes to accounting... |
| 19:21 | cait | hope I will be able to finish my course without it |
| 19:22 | ibeardslee | 'inspiration' and accounting eh? |
| 19:22 | inspiration accounting .. is that different to the creative sort? | |
| 19:22 | magnuse | might not be the best word - incentive, maybe... :) |
| 19:23 | darling | when I was little my mom made accounting look fun to me -- had one of those gigantic mechanical adding machines |
| 19:23 | lots of buttons and clacky bits | |
| 19:24 | magnuse | cool! |
| 19:25 | darling | I asked her much later why she liked that sort of work - she said is was really satisfying when the numbers finally work out |
| 19:32 | liw | that's a bit like programming, especially with TDD |
| 19:35 | darling | yup -- my mom would have been a great software geek |
| 19:44 | magnuse | gotta go - see y'all tomorrow! |
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| 20:46 | druthb | hi, Brooke! :) |
| 20:46 | Brooke_ | kia ora |
| 20:46 | rangi | heya Brooke_ |
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| 21:06 | * Brooke_ | waves to ronald |
| 21:41 | * slef | continues battering the brick wall with his head |
| 21:42 | * Brooke_ | removes a few bricks while slef isn't looking. |
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