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| 03:52 | Oak | \o |
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| 04:59 | Topic for #koha is now os academy is over and we ended with 50.1% subroutine test coverage, let's stay above that | |
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| 05:51 | Amit | heya all |
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| 07:01 | francharb | heelo all |
| 07:06 | Amit | hello all |
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| 07:24 | kf | good morning #koha |
| 07:30 | Amit | heya kf |
| 07:30 | kf | hi Amit |
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| 07:46 | hdl | hi |
| 07:46 | kf | hi hdl |
| 07:46 | I was thinking about you right now :) | |
| 07:47 | hdl | so kind of you ;) |
| 07:47 | kf | hm not really :) |
| 07:47 | wanted to ask you about http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]tization_solution | |
| 07:48 | because we have a library that will use 3M and I will get one of their devices for testing next week (hopefully) | |
| 07:50 | and the bug number on the wiki is wrong - wanted to correct that but where can I do that - I only see {{{bug}}} in the code. hm. | |
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| 07:52 | kf | bug 3439 |
| 07:52 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3439 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, RESOLVED FIXED, opac-main.tmpl references unused "recentacquiloop" |
| 07:53 | kf | wrong number, bug 5439 |
| 07:53 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5439 enhancement, P5, ---, henridamien, NEW, 3M RFID sensitization |
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| 08:10 | ephazz | i need to map 852khi to koha 952o hw is this done |
| 08:20 | kf | ephazz: we have different structures here - but I think you have to combine your differnt parts into one callnumber - but isn't o barcode? |
| 08:21 | ephazz | no o is full call number |
| 08:21 | kf | ah ok |
| 08:21 | was looking it up right now | |
| 08:21 | I don't know how your barcodes look like - perhaps you can use copy for item part | |
| 08:21 | not barcodes...call numbers | |
| 08:21 | wasabi | you cant map 3 subfields to a single subfield, afaik |
| 08:21 | kf | no, you can't do that |
| 08:22 | but combine them with marcedit into one field | |
| 08:22 | wasabi | of at least, you shouldnt :) |
| 08:22 | heya kf | |
| 08:22 | kf | for example append classification part to call number prefix and save item part into copy |
| 08:22 | wasabi | s/of/or/ |
| 08:22 | kf | hi wasabi |
| 08:22 | wasabi: still frustrated I killed my ubuntu :( | |
| 08:22 | ephazz | now is there documentation detailing hw to link all the sub fields using maredit? |
| 08:23 | kf | you don't link them with maredit |
| 08:23 | you have to make your data fit into koha's scheme for item data | |
| 08:23 | but you can use maredit to swap fields and such | |
| 08:23 | it's a good tool to work with marc data | |
| 08:24 | ephazz | any documentation for marcedit regarding this |
| 08:25 | kf | you might want to check 952$t for one of your fields |
| 08:25 | I think in marcedit is documentation about using the edit functions | |
| 08:25 | * wasabi | 's never used marcedit |
| 08:26 | kf | you can work with search and replace, swap fields and such |
| 08:27 | wasabi | yeah, most people use marcedit to manipulate their bibs before a koha import |
| 08:28 | ephazz | let me see marcedit can do for be back in a sec |
| 08:28 | wasabi | perl's marc::record is what the pros use ;) |
| 08:29 | http://search.cpan.org/~gmchar[…]ib/MARC/Record.pm | |
| 08:41 | hdl | kf: just sent you the patch for 3M sensitization. |
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| 09:15 | markk | hello all!! |
| 09:17 | i was wondering where can i find a tutorial or program to modify the theme/look of the web interface OPAC/Staff ... does anyone habe any idea about it? | |
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| 09:40 | hdl | kf: have you received my email ? |
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| 10:22 | kf | sorry hdl, had a phone conference and a meeting - checking now |
| 10:23 | hdl | commit log is in french. |
| 10:23 | Sorry. | |
| 10:23 | kf | it's ok - I will try google translate |
| 10:23 | hdl | It requires to add some tools |
| 10:23 | kf | can you say something about configuration? how is it activated? |
| 10:23 | hdl | sending you a how to |
| 10:24 | kf | thx a lot hdl |
| 10:24 | if I get it working I can sign off on it | |
| 10:24 | does it need to be rebased? | |
| 10:25 | ah, I see you solved some conflicts already | |
| 10:36 | hdl++ | |
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| 11:05 | deejay_hr | Hello |
| 11:06 | if someone is around, I could use a little bit of assistance | |
| 11:06 | kf | deejay_hr: here is always someone around - just ask your question |
| 11:07 | deejay_hr | thanks |
| 11:07 | kf | :) |
| 11:07 | deejay_hr | I'm sure the question has already been asked, and there's probably an answer somewhere, but I don't have the time to dig through the internet |
| 11:08 | recently koha has been acting up with circulation | |
| 11:08 | when you tried to check out a book to certain users, an empty yellow box would appear | |
| 11:08 | and you can't check it out | |
| 11:08 | kf | which version of koha are you using? |
| 11:08 | this sounds like an old but familiar bug | |
| 11:08 | deejay_hr | one sec |
| 11:08 | 3.00.04.019 | |
| 11:09 | kf | have the users items due on that day? not overdue, but due? or overdue? |
| 11:09 | that's an old version | |
| 11:09 | deejay_hr | so we need to upgrade? |
| 11:09 | kf | updating to 3.0.6 > 3.2.2 could be a way to solve this |
| 11:09 | deejay_hr | overdues could be a problem |
| 11:10 | but if you return or renew, shouldn't that reset it? | |
| 11:10 | kf | I remember that the box should ask something like: this person has overdues, do you want to checkout anyway? |
| 11:10 | and it didn't | |
| 11:10 | hm yes, I would think so | |
| 11:10 | deejay_hr | allright, so upgrade is a possible fix |
| 11:10 | I'll see what I can do about that | |
| 11:10 | thanks for the info | |
| 11:11 | kf | if this is the bug - ubt I have not seen this behaviour on our installations |
| 11:11 | so I hope it would help | |
| 11:11 | you should always try with a test installation first | |
| 11:11 | deejay_hr | yeah, I kind of assumed that our tech upgraded it, but I guess he didn't |
| 11:11 | kf | update a test installation first, before production |
| 11:12 | deejay_hr | but if it's an overdue problem, how do we test it without waiting lol |
| 11:12 | well they say patience is a virtue | |
| 11:14 | kf | hm. |
| 11:16 | perhaps this could help too: | |
| 11:16 | http://koha.1045719.n5.nabble.[…]ox-td3061893.html | |
| 11:16 | check if you have accidently added a value to fine days | |
| 11:18 | deejay_hr | hmm |
| 11:18 | kf | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4036 |
| 11:18 | munin | 04Bug 4036: blocker, P5, ---, gmcharlt, RESOLVED FIXED, Two conditions missing from circ template messages: USERBLOCKEDOVERDUE and USERBLOCKEDREMAINING |
| 11:18 | kf | seems the bug was finally fixed in 3.2 release |
| 11:18 | this would be a big update - needs serious testing | |
| 11:20 | deejay_hr | well, I'll inform the head librarian and the tech guy, but somehow I doubt we'll do much testing hehe |
| 11:20 | we're a rather small library | |
| 11:27 | kf | normally everythign should work, but you never know |
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| 13:20 | owen | @wunder 45701 |
| 13:20 | munin | owen: The current temperature in Athens, Ohio is -11.0�C (8:18 AM EST on January 21, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: -15.0�C. Windchill: -18.0�C. Pressure: 30.00 in 1016 hPa (Rising). |
| 13:20 | jwagner | @wunder 20817 |
| 13:20 | munin | jwagner: The current temperature in Langley Fork Park, McLean, Virginia is -0.5�C (8:22 AM EST on January 21, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: -7.0�C. Windchill: 0.0�C. Pressure: 29.75 in 1007.3 hPa (Rising). |
| 13:20 | owen | Sounds like shorts weather jwagner! |
| 13:21 | jwagner | Only in comparison to you :-) Still pretty chilly, and with a lot of wind. But we lucked out & didn't get much in the way of snow last night. |
| 13:22 | owen | paul_p: I will try to clarify the status of bug5575 |
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| 13:28 | kmkale | hi owen |
| 13:28 | hi jwagner | |
| 13:28 | owen | How's the weather where you are kmkale? :) |
| 13:28 | kmkale | @weather Mumbai |
| 13:28 | munin | kmkale: The current temperature in Mumbai, India is 27.0�C (6:40 PM IST on January 21, 2011). Conditions: Smoke. Humidity: 42%. Dew Point: 13.0�C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Rising). |
| 13:29 | kmkale | its bettr in Thaqne since we are out of Mumbai and there is a big National park hill between Thane and Mumbai :) |
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| 13:38 | kf | nengard: i was not sure if the checks were case-sensitive |
| 13:38 | and didn't want to break more than I already did... | |
| 13:39 | and she is not here | |
| 13:48 | * jwagner | puts a big basket of cookies out for a Friday treat |
| 14:02 | paul_p | owen, thx for 5575 |
| 14:03 | 'morning america ! | |
| 14:03 | owen | paul_p: I hope to do more testing and patching today |
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| 14:07 | jwagner | Bonjour paul_p |
| 14:11 | paul_p | bonjour jwagner |
| 14:11 | owen++ | |
| 14:12 | owen, remember me that I owe you at least 2 trucks full of beer next time I see you!!! | |
| 14:12 | owen | I'll get a plane ticket right away! |
| 14:13 | Actually, my next trip will be to Chicago for the Drupal conference. | |
| 14:14 | * owen | is looking forward to that |
| 14:18 | paul_p | there is a DrupalCon in London where we plan to go in a few months too ! |
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| 14:22 | owen | Grrr... why does the tablesorter plugin sometimes just not work? |
| 14:24 | sekjal | owen: irregularities in the data it's trying to sort? (shot in the dark) |
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| 14:25 | owen | I've checked that the plugins are there, I've checked that my markup is valid, I've looked at the source for clues... |
| 14:25 | kf | owen: friday |
| 14:25 | owen | That's the cause? :) |
| 14:26 | kf | yep |
| 14:26 | owen | I've heard there's a cure, but it takes about 7 hours to work. |
| 14:27 | * owen | finds it... a stray <tbody> |
| 14:27 | owen | I guess an extra <tbody> is perfectly valid :| |
| 14:28 | Take that, Friday. | |
| 14:30 | sekjal | owen++ (for giving King Friday a good wallop upside the head) |
| 14:36 | wizzyrea_ | oh mr rogers. |
| 15:04 | kmkale | bye all. good night |
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| 15:20 | jwagner | paul_p or slef, online? (Or anyone who might remember version 2.x encoding?) |
| 15:21 | We're trying to upgrade some sites, but the data coming out of the 2.x systems does not seem to be latin-1, windows or MARC-8 or UTF8 encoding. Anyone know what it is? | |
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| 15:24 | wizzyrea | the smartrules are kept in issuingrules, right? |
| 15:25 | paul_p | wizzyrea yep |
| 15:25 | wizzyrea | ty ty |
| 15:25 | paul_p | jwagner, I cant' tell you what it is. we (french/unimarc) haven't had this problem, because we don't have marc-8 here. |
| 15:26 | jwagner | Darn :-( None of our encoding conversions seem to work -- diacritics are all messed up. Was hoping someone would remember. I'll check with chris later too. |
| 15:51 | wizzyrea | owen++ for that awesome "click in the holdings field anywhere to edit" enhancement |
| 15:51 | I'm just now getting to appreciate it | |
| 15:51 | fully | |
| 15:59 | we haven't had any movement on this, right? | |
| 15:59 | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4530 | |
| 15:59 | munin | 04Bug 4530: major, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Circulation & fines rules aren't always applied from most specific to less specific |
| 15:59 | wizzyrea | I think I just ran up against it |
| 15:59 | kf | it's friday - you shoudl have expected that |
| 15:59 | * wizzyrea | whallops friday... take that! |
| 15:59 | * kf | decided to not look on such things today |
| 15:59 | kf | and leaving now for the weekend :) |
| 16:00 | a nice weekend to you all! | |
| 16:00 | wizzyrea | it's ok, I just think we need to either get rid of the default rule, or fix it so it works |
| 16:00 | have a great weekend kf | |
| 16:00 | kf | thx, you too wizzyrea |
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| 16:54 | slef | hi all - did I fall off or is my client telling me nicknames in a random order? |
| 16:56 | jwagner | I had asked you (and paul) earlier if you knew anything about the encoding scheme in Koha 2.x -- maybe that's what was happening? |
| 16:57 | (that would be an alert, not a disconnect. never mind...) | |
| 16:57 | But if you know the answer, I'd love to hear it :-) | |
| 16:58 | slef | I think encoding in 2.x was a bit of a mess... mysql and koha did not necessarily agree and we weren't very strong on directing people. But paul_p and hdl would have had to deal with that much more than I did. |
| 17:00 | jwagner | Our problem is with taking data from 2.x and trying to load into current -- we can't figure out what the encoding is and none of our conversion routines are working for the diacritics. |
| 17:01 | slef | It's probably some corrupt mix of double-encoding or ISO-8859-1 mislabelled as MARC-8 and the problem is rather similar to trying to reconstruct a pig from sausages, sorry. |
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| 17:05 | jwagner | Thanks slef. |
| 17:06 | * jwagner | thinks the world would be a simpler place if we all used the same encoding. |
| 17:06 | is probably not realistic.... | |
| 17:06 | slef | That's why we keep pushing for UTF-8 but MARC-8 will be slow to die. |
| 17:08 | * cait | waves |
| 17:08 | jwagner | I thought UTF-8 caused us more problems? Our dataloader is always muttering about it, anyway. |
| 17:08 | * jwagner | waves back to cait |
| 17:08 | wizzyrea | @quote add slef: It's probably some corrupt mix of double-encoding or ISO-8859-1 mislabelled as MARC-8 and the problem is rather similar to trying to reconstruct a pig from sausages, sorry. |
| 17:08 | munin | wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. Quote #116 added. |
| 17:11 | slef | UTF-8 is lovely apart from the BOMs. |
| 17:11 | wizzyrea | reconstruct a pig from sausages... that is so entering my vocabulary |
| 17:13 | slef | I stole it... probably from Clifford Stoll, The Cuckoo's Egg |
| 17:15 | jwagner | Gosh, haven't read that one in a long time. I think it's on my list to be weeded from my personal collection. Maybe I should reread first... |
| 17:15 | wizzyrea | another good one I got recently was (something that's good) really butters my parsnips |
| 17:30 | * slef | goes to deal with electrics that have water in them :-( |
| 17:30 | * jwagner | hands slef insulated boots etc. |
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| 17:35 | paul_p | time to go back home for week end ! bye bye #koha ! see you on monday ! |
| 17:38 | cait | bye paul_p, have a nice weekend |
| 17:39 | * slef | returns, unburnt |
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| 18:13 | sekjal | I'm trying to get a Koha server to be Z39.50 searchable... what am I missing? |
| 18:13 | I've updated koha-conf.xml | |
| 18:13 | and restarted Zebra | |
| 18:14 | port 9999 is open | |
| 18:14 | but searching on a known item returns no results | |
| 18:33 | * jwagner | grumbles at bugzilla |
| 18:33 | jwagner | I know there was a bug report for the OPAC results list checkboxes being grayed out when they shouldn't be, but I can't find it. Ring any bells for anyon? |
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| 20:10 | jwagner | anybody on who knows about wildcard and boolean searching? |
| 20:12 | cait | in which context? |
| 20:14 | jwagner | OPAC, primarily. Can you use parentheses in constructing a query, like (juvenile* or youth or child*) and (sentenc* or jail* or prison* or justice) |
| 20:14 | Koha seems not to like the parentheses. | |
| 20:15 | cait | have not tested that |
| 20:16 | wizzyrea | there's a bug about parens I think |
| 20:16 | jwagner | I've been trying to find any mention of it, no luck so far. |
| 20:17 | speaking of trying to find things -- wizzyrea, it seems to be impossible to search in the 3.2 manual -- the search box only searches against the wiki site itself. Am I missing something? | |
| 20:17 | wizzyrea | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1807 |
| 20:17 | munin | 04Bug 1807: blocker, P3, ---, chris, ASSIGNED, ':' character blocks search ; search () give odd results |
| 20:18 | jwagner | Thanks. You can outwit bugzilla better than I can :-( |
| 20:18 | wizzyrea | though I couldn't find the one you were looking for earlier |
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| 20:18 | wizzyrea | I wonder if it's closed.... I didn't look at closed ones |
| 20:19 | no the search for the manual doesn't work, it's been removed actually. | |
| 20:19 | maybe someday it will work, it's out of my hands now. | |
| 20:20 | jwagner | OK, thanks. |
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| 21:21 | Brooke | kia ora |
| 21:23 | cait | hi Brooke |
| 21:24 | Brooke | :) |
| 21:25 | wie geht's? | |
| 21:26 | cait | ganu gut |
| 21:26 | ganz gut | |
| 21:26 | researching ... new laptop... new mouse... new external harddrive | |
| 21:26 | big remodeling project ;) | |
| 21:27 | Brooke | nice |
| 21:28 | I intend to splurge on a new mouse and some speakers soonish | |
| 21:30 | sekjal_a is now known as sekjal | |
| 21:34 | moodaepo | @wunder 56001 |
| 21:35 | munin | moodaepo: The current temperature in MSU Physics Dept, Mankato, Minnesota is -18.2�C (3:36 PM CST on January 21, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: -22.0�C. Windchill: -25.0�C. Pressure: 29.91 in 1012.8 hPa (Steady). |
| 21:38 | cait | Brooke: :) |
| 21:39 | Brooke: planning a research trip to local shops tomorrow | |
| 21:39 | want to look at some things | |
| 21:39 | Brooke | :) |
| 21:39 | * Brooke | is a shameless windowshopper. |
| 21:40 | cait | normally I don't like shopping, but this could be fun |
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| 21:46 | druthb | hi. :) |
| 21:46 | Brooke | ello ello |
| 22:05 | sekjal | found a pretty big bug in the new OpacPublic preference |
| 22:05 | seems it prevents people from logging into the OPAC if the OPAC is set to 'public' | |
| 22:05 | generating a patch now | |
| 22:06 | wizzyrea | yikes, and good catch |
| 22:06 | druthb | sekjal++ # I'll never catch up to him, if I keep doing this... |
| 22:10 | Brooke | @karma druthb |
| 22:10 | munin | Brooke: Karma for "druthb" has been increased 54 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 54. |
| 22:11 | druthb | @karma sekjal |
| 22:11 | munin | druthb: Karma for "sekjal" has been increased 59 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 58. |
| 22:11 | sekjal | patch sent |
| 22:12 | brb | |
| 22:12 | sekjal is now known as sekjal_a | |
| 22:25 | wizzyrea | oh that's an old bug |
| 22:26 | or a new bug in an oldish bug report | |
| 22:26 | i mean | |
| 22:32 | Brooke | who was the creep that downgraded sekjal. |
| 22:32 | sekjal_a is now known as sekjal | |
| 22:32 | * Brooke | will kneecap them. |
| 22:33 | wizzyrea | I think it was someone doing his bidding, as he was trying to downgrade himself |
| 22:35 | druthb | harrumph! |
| 22:35 | @karma wizzyrea | |
| 22:35 | munin | druthb: Karma for "wizzyrea" has been increased 126 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 126. |
| 22:35 | wizzyrea | i don't even know how that happened. |
| 22:35 | sekjal | my memory is fuzzy on that, too |
| 22:35 | druthb | @karma Brooke |
| 22:35 | munin | druthb: Karma for "Brooke" has been increased 10 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 9. |
| 22:36 | Brooke | harrumph |
| 22:36 | druthb | Brooke++ # I has mah reasons. |
| 22:36 | * Brooke | glares at druthb. |
| 22:36 | wizzyrea | lulz |
| 22:36 | * Brooke | is most certainly not the dog's bollocks. |
| 22:36 | * druthb | stands mute, and a plea of "Not Guilty" was entered by the Court. |
| 22:37 | sekjal | I've got to get. have a great weekend, #koha! |
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